Tales of Series Thread

Tales of Berseria game comes out tomorrow (23rd for US, 27th for EU) and my expectations for it have went down as time goes on.

Battle system finally got rid of the linking/fusing mechanics from the past few games that ruined multiplayer. Combat seems to be a combination of Xillia and Graces F with an altered CC system and combos that don't stretch out too long. Every character fills a niche and each one of them has a unique gimmick to them like the characters in Xillia. For example the MC can go into edgelord mode to unleash stronger artes in turn for sacrificing health.

Outside of combat they've added add a hoverboard and orbs to collect that, when you collect all of them in the area and go to a certain chest, give you cosmetic items. I think it's a nice addition since it's something you don't have to give a shit about but is rewarding you with cosmetics instead of items you need to fight better.

Now onto the stupid shit. PC version has Denuvo and western versions are all censored. So you're going to have to wait for ages to patch the censorship out the game. Said censored scene fucks with certain plot elements later on as well. While the censored scene isn't half assed, it doesn't come off as brutal and barbaric as the original. Then there's the DLC costumes announced way before the game actually went gold too. So whether you count that as cut content is up to you but I still feel as though it's shafting the players. Not even trying to hide that they could have included it into the game.

Your thoughts on this game? Anyone here played the JP version? If you hate the censorship, buying it used or pirating (when denovo is cracked) is always an option. The "If we don't buy it we'll never get more games." argument isn't the same as speaking with your money and sending them messages that denuvo fucks customers.

Picked up a really cheap copy of Zestiria ($6 complete cheap) a while back and figured at that price I can probably still get my money's worth of enjoyment from it, and at least personally understand apparent gripes with it if I don't like it. Anyone know how soon the option for multiplayer co-op (at least two player anyhow) becomes viable without gimping the combat system or fucking Player 2 over? I tend to like to co-op Tales (and for better or worse, I'm stuck these days with only one friend willing to give them a go) and I figure that two player at least will be fine at some point in the game, but I'm not sure how far in it takes to reach a stable point of having enough party members for long term co-op.

Might also state that I'm finally getting around to trying to make an infographic about the series since it's a semi-frequent topic as to where to start, what the games are about, which are good, etc, but shit has gotten LONG fast (thus far I've got write ups for general series information and games up through Abyss chronologically; that means I've got eight more main series games to cover, plus some blurbs for some of the escort subseries like Radiant Mythology and Narikiri Dungeon, and I'm also thinking of writing some stuff up on some of the mainstay mechanics as well), and I think I'm probably going to have to find a good way to divide it up into multiple images. Could also use some moonspeakers' input as to thoughts about the games/versions we never got out here and have yet to be fan-translated.

I still don't get why they opted to censor that scene when Xillia 2 has a similar case of (apparent) child impalement. Or, at least that's what it appeared to be (the game doesn't explain how exactly the physical Key of Kresnik thing Bisley uses to torture Chronos works, but Elle seems to be stuck on it when it first appears before eventually sliding off the shaft; albeit she seems to get better a while later on her own accord).

For some reason that brings to mind that Sylph-based thing from Eternia that lets you ride the wind over water.

I really do hate how greedy Namco is. The bulk of costumes being DLC these days is one of my biggest personal gripes with the series; I miss how in Symphonia, and to a greater extent, Abyss and Vesperia, they were unlockables for beating certain challenges, or following through on particular sidequests. These days you're lucky if there's even a handful to be found in the games themselves. That said, I suppose that's more of an issue with the industry on the whole: Few games actually release as complete as they'll ever be, and of companies that release DLC (paid DLC, anyhow), there's not a lot of it that's actually worth paying extra for. A few companies have proven exceptions (like Vanillaware, with Muramasa Rebirth's Genroku Legends DLC chapters), but still.

I really find the complaining about the censored scene to be blown out of proportions. It only changes sword impalement to magic shit impalement. As long as they don't go retarded meme translation or didn't sneak in way more "localization" changes, it's all fine with me, it's only one short scene I can just watch on youtube if I care enough. It's not a whole character model or a costume, it's not removing game modes or a butchered dialogue like Nintendo, or something bigger. Denuvo is worse of a problem, but I knew it would be there after God Eater.

I actually find it a bigger problem that the main character is what appears to be a "strong feminist woman who ain't afraid of no man". I'd much rather get a fag like in Zestiria than that. I've heard the gameplay is way better than past last few games though, Bamco's ports have been good for a time and I want to see more of Tales games on Steam so I might be pre-order.

If we don't buy it we'll never get more games is pretty valid concern though as with Nips there are cases of this. I still remember barely anybody buying Isuka/Reload on PC as they were already outdated (well not Isuka), without marketing and inferior to other versions, but that was enough for the Nips to stop porting until they saw the market actually is there because even their old stuff sold decently on Steam.

its shit

Peaches look like little butts

linking was so silly

Fucking why, I hate myself now.

The PS3 version was never cleared to release in the west for whatever reason (Namco claims it didn't have to do with "exclusivity" by that point, but ultimately dodged the question with a "well it's too late to bring it over now anyhow"), but as of now it is the first fully fan-translated PS3 game. Does require a CFW system to use the patch though.

The battle cry of every censorship apologist. You retards practically beg to be treated like children.

I played the Berseria demo and it just seems like it's 'Girl Squall and the Mystery of why is this fucking camera so close.' The locked camera in combat is so much worse than Vesperia's which zoomed out so you could see everything. It's not much better in the field either, even when zoomed out as far as possible. The text/UI were also terrible, which may change for the final release, but considering how recently the demo came out, the lack of polish makes me uneasy.