Nipponese Learning Thread: ああ～　気持ち～　止めてください～ Edition

Thought as much, I just couldn't think of another equivalent.

うん知るthanks fam

知ってる

shiru sounds fucking weird

If you want to get literal, it's more like "It was good that I was able to meet with you.", but that doesn't flow as well.

Really? What about 分かる? The nipp is speak to uses that instead of 分かってる or is this just 知る specific?

and now, for yet another shitty mnemonic
fuck you, they work.
[空] = sora (そら) and it means sky. Sora's head is fucking empty, like the infinite scope of the sky.

Is it possible to learn nip in 3 years? At least get the basics to have a proper conversation?

Probably.

So i pretty much have hiragana memorised by heart, is there anything easy to read in jap, or ahould i just keep studying for a few weeks?

Not without getting some basic vocabulary and grammar under your belt, which will inevitably coincide with learning kanji.
Consider it a good thing, kana-only text can actually be quite difficult to parse.

Okay, new thread, new chances. If I get over a 5 on the last number of my ID I'll learn Japanese!

Fuck, I'm going to learn Japanese anyways.

do it, fag.

Anything that will help learn vocab on the side of studying?

Anki with the core2K/6K deck in the OP. Just keep at it every day.

Don't listen to that bitch. Fuck her.

Welp, learning Japanese made me go through school again grammatical wise.

Cool one. But for me is easier to memorize it by remembering Yosuga no Sora.

Mods are asleep, post メアリー.

空 also means empty as in the 空 from 空手.

メアリー a slut

バンプ～

セイレン is the new hotness.

That's not a game user.

ええ、精錬ってが中々熱い活動なんだね。:^)

やれやれ

Best one was when I was staying at a hotel in Nagano on the fifth floor. Guy in the lift with us pressed the wrong button before I corrected him. So I said "誤解しましたね" while we were riding up. He was really not expecting a foreigner to pop a bad pun like that.

だぜ

Hiw did you guys learn yourself? I think I'm trying to do too many things at once. Between Tae Kim and Anki. I might be a bitch, though.

Tae kim and Anki. I found that reading and watching things you've seen translated can be helpful as well. There's no shortcut to it, just power through.

I wanna learn, but I don't want to sign up for shit.

You don't have to sign up for anything. Anki, and all of the other resources available in the pastebin and the OP, are free.

That reminds me, any way to get Kanji Study paid apk? To be honest, I find it a lot more useful than Anki, since it have a lot of information about each Kanji, and even kana. I'd love to support it, but I'm poor. I also remember an user here who knew the nip that developed it.

Me speaku nihongo kawaii (○3○) arigato pantsu itadakimasu anime manga pomf ittai oniichan sushi keikaku ●□●!!!!

I don't own an android phone, and therefore I have no idea whether or not these torrents work, but you could try them
torrentproject.se/7917fc51ea34c46f77938d361b9b153f783deedc/Japanese-Kanji-Study-v1-6-4-Unlocked-apk-torrent.html
this next one is a compilation of different apps, just select kanji study from the list and omit everything else
torrentproject.se/3f33b079d0ba54121090c55fc8fc6af3a0a86946/Android-Only-Paid-Week-49-(2016)-APPS-AndroGalaxy-torrent.html

Well, I can only hope it's a recent version since between versions they add more things. I'll try and report back.

Alright, I know how to read Hiragana by heart.
Now, where do I learn spoken language to understand?
Also, what drama show or whatever that I should watch?
Should I watch without subs and pick it up?

Nigger, read the guide, but I went to Tae Kim guide, for grammar, or you can grind Kanjis, since you need it.
I'd say children stuff because the kanjis usually have kanas above them since kids don't know a lot of kanjis. But then again, I just started myself. I watch Kamen Rider and Super Sentai, it also helps with gestures and stuff like that, in my opinion.
You'd most likely would want to watch it with Japanese subs to follow through them if you can, but, again, you'd need to learn Kanjis, even when there are little kanas above them. You should also learn Katakana by heart.

バンプ～

Where do I watch japanese subs?

Does anyone know what she is saying in the last panel? I have a feeling it's something like "I think you're lying so I'm going over today" but I have 0 confidence in that.

List of Kanji
「今」(いま) ima = now
「何」(なん) nan = what
「勉強」(べんきょう) benkyou = study
「犬」(いぬ) inu = dog
「散歩」(さんぽ) sanpo = a stroll
「寮」(りよう) ryou = dormitory
「住」(じゅう) jyuu = live/place of residence
「大丈夫」(だいじょうぶ) daijoubu = alright/okay
「多分」(たぶん) tabun　= perhaps/maybe
「絶対」(ぜったい) zettai = absolutely

So, in the first panel, she says, "今、何しているの？ 勉強はちゃんとしている？"
which I think means, "So, what are you doing now? Are you studying well?" the literal translation is, "as for (your) studies, adequately doing?" so it could equate to a number of different phrases in English, but the point is that she's asking if he's keeping on top of his school work.

In the second panel he says, "うん、　でも今は。。。　ええと。。。　犬と散歩しているよ". It's illustrating that he's responding to some implied conversation by saying, "but right now I'm… uhh…" and then he says, "I definitely take the dog for a walk". It literally translates as, "dog together with (me) certainly go for a stroll"

In the third panel she says, "え？　寮に住んでいるんじゃないの？ ペットは大丈夫なの？" I think she's saying something like, "Oh? You're at home right now, aren't you? Is your pet doing well?" He responds with, "う、　うん、　多分大丈夫。　今、絶対うそをついてるよね" which I think means, "uh, uh huh, he's probably fine. I absolutely wouldn't lie to you, would I?"

This is just my educated guess, though. I'm not sure, maybe someone else with more experience can give a better translation.

I'm taking (my) dog for a walk

You're living in the dorms aren't you? Are pets okay? (as in allowed at the dorm)

Y, Yeah, it's probably fine.

(This is the woman talking through the phone) You're definitely lying right now.

How am I supposed to memorize Kanji?
How the fuck

thanks

use Anki. use Anki. use Anki and grind the ever living fuck out of them.
Look, the average autist here can spend 300+ hours in a video game doing the same fucking thing over and over without batting an eye, so don't give me that shit. Just think of it like mindless grinding. You see the flash card, you get the answer wrong. You keep getting it wrong until you get it right, and then you keep getting it right until you can recognize the symbol without stopping to think about it. At that point, you've succeeded. Just remember that there's three aspects to Kanji; recognition, pronunciation, and stroke order. Recognition means, "I've seen this kanji and I know what it means". Pronunciation is merely how you say the damn thing, and stroke order is the correct method of writing the thing down. Eventually, with enough exposure and practice, these things will become second nature. That is your goal. Make them second nature.

Thanks! Also, is it common to use kana rather than kanji for うそ?

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Memorisation isn't hard, it just takes a lot of time.

Yes, it's not one of the 常用漢字 after all.

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That's pretty autistic, but

No idea fam, I'm truly sorry. I do have the english subs, though, if you're interested. kamenriderguide.weebly.com/

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They look less imposing when you can take them apart into radicals. Helps you process and categorize. They don't function like roots in English - do NOT fall into the trap of assuming the radicals reflect the definitions - but they help you break the word down into pieces for easy memorization and mentally group definitions together. As you get to higher levels of understanding, context clues become increasingly helpful.

バンプ～

Is there any point in obtaining a JLPT cert below N2? Almost any job in Japan that'd require JLPT seems to require N2 or above. And at least in Australia they're only run at the end of the year, so they're not super convenient to get.
They seem to be just for self-satisfaction until you get to about N2.

Pic unrelated, but an awesome game.

I understand that the best thing to do is learn grammar and grind anki simultaneously, but it takes up a huge amount of my day. I'm fine with dedicating time to it but 1-2 hours is too much for me. I don't want to rush through grammar so is the only way to reduce the number of cards per day?

The core2k/6k's new card schedule defaults to 20 new cards a day. I'd say, roll with that for like 2 weeks or so, just to give yourself some material to work with, then set the limit to something lower, like under new 10 cards a day. That way, you'll have a lot of cards to review and you'll still learn new cards at the same time. You can fiddle with the number of daily reviews, but I think 100 is perfectly fine even for a beginner. Additionally, try to alternate between vocab and grammar i.e.
Obviously, this is just a suggestion; the point is to work out some schedule where you only focus on one aspect at a time.

In anki click on the deck, then hit custom study and you can choose the type and amount. If your getting too many new cards just do all the review ones first and then do a few new ones and call it a day. The advantage of this over just setting the amount lower for all days is you can tailor it to your situation.

So i finished tae kim and learned it well, but I didnt learn any of the vocabulary. I can read grammar well now, but still cant read for shit.

Should I start learning anki now?

トランプのうんちが食べますかだね

トランプのうんちが食べなさい

Which is more correct?

ka means you ask a question so you won't be saying dane just after.

It's best not to limit your reviews much as the point of Anki is to review cards at the optimal time for memory and if your reviews pile up you'll be missing that time window frequently.

Most non-translation employers don't know what the levels mean but packing more certifications onto your resume is always good in tech related fields.

So I tried anki but I figured I must be doing something wrong. I followed the instructions on how to install the decks and how to set the reps to 9999 and all of that. But when I launch the deck it starts giving me phrases with no context as to how I'm supposed to solve them, as if it's expecting me to review stuff I already know instead of teaching me new kanji.

Post pictures.

Post pics.

It just shows me a bunch of kanji I don't know and expects me to understand the context. I get the same thing with the core2k deck or whatever it's called.

Use the Core2k/6k deck. Yours looks like it's giving you the reading, meaning and asking you the kanji.

Start writing them and making sentences with them, it helps a lot.
It's funny because I haven't done handwriting for years, so even though I can read a lot of kanji I can't remember how to write most of the hard ones.

Did you want to say "Eat Trump's poop"? If so, second one but with を instead of が

Yeah, I just realized yesterday that I haven't done any kana handwriting practice in years. So while I can write the most difficult kanji, I can't even remember how to write most of the kana, even though I can easily read them.

I started a kana deck to fix that though.

Same thing with that deck. It's not giving me any frame of reference for what it's showing, making it entirely pointless.

It should show you a kanji, then you press space and it will show the reading, meaning, an example sentence and optionally speak the reading and example sentence.

If you're having problems with understanding Kanji, I guess so. You're supposed to learn each Kanji individually, with Tae Kim you just know how to correctly form orations and all that.

If you have an android, use Kanji Study, it shows you how to trace, the direction and order, is pretty neat. Only problem is is that you have to pay for the full version and it doesn't have voice for everything. I chill for free but it's worth buying the full version, or support the developer with a beer

What was it, Holla Forums? What was the last straw for you to start learning Japanese? Mine is pic related.
I hate the fact that the game is broken and it actually broke my PS3. But damn if I don't want to play it again.

Shit ran like 15 FPS on my PS3. What the fuck, man.

best feeling

I came up with a pretty cool way to remember numerics, since I was having trubles with them. The opening o Monster Muume have the girls saying the numerics in order, so if you want to remember the pronunciation, you can just remember who say which number.

As I said, the game is broken as fuck, I'm guessing it's like Pirate Warrior 3, where the PS3 version just came out to cash some shekels. Not like the PC version was any better, so probably only the PS4 version is worth it. Then again, I refuse to buy a PS4 until it's cracked open.

If you're interested, shonen mangas have the little kanas in side of the kajis, since shonen mangas like one piece are for kids. I realized I was reading pretty fast, and trying to make sense off the whole thing.

Same boat brah. A shame since it looks awesome for import games. Ah well, I'm a patient gamer.

Mushroom girl is best girl.

Gas me

I learned the Hiragana and Katakana from Slime Forest Adventure in only 2 days, once you got that you can start learning grammar and Kanji. LEARN!

Ehhhhh

You probably spend more time looking at porn each day than you would have to spend studying.

That's true, but I need my porn, it gets me through work.

Don't get fired.

How to have fun learning japanese? I'm not giving up but I'm finding this boring, the only reason I've made it this far through genki1 is because I'm skipping the exercises.

Have you gotten a promotion yet?

Stop doing that.

Why? They're simple boring and teach bad habits.

If you think you're such a master, why don't you go get your certification already?

Japanese songs are a nightmare to translate
I dunno if the separated lirycs don't have a relation with each other

燃やせ 燃やせ 怒りを燃やせ
走れ 走れ 明日へ走れ
怒りの炎が 天を突き破る
廃虚の中から立ち上がれ ライガー

奇跡のバイオ・アーマーが
戦う痛みを感じても
恐れるものは何もない
邪神を叩きつぶすまで

ライガーソード
空を切り裂く 聖なる剣
ライガースラッシュ
稲妻轟く 真紅のファイヤー
怒りの獣神ライガー

燃やせ 燃やせ 怒りを燃やせ
掴め 掴め 自由を掴め
邪悪な黒雲 地上を包みこむ
瓦礫の中から甦る ライガー

呪いの邪神閉じこめた
太古の神の力さえも
及ばぬ今は世紀末
勇者を目覚めさせる時

ライガーソード
神が与えた正義の剣
ライガースラッシュ
聖なる血を引く 我らのファイター
怒りの獣神ライガー

ライガーソード
空を切り裂く 聖なる剣
ライガースラッシュ
稲妻轟く 真紅のファイヤー
怒りの獣神ライガー

The fact that they are separated means that should be translated separated?

I actually do plan on reviewing my notes and doing all the exercises at once before I move onto genki2, but that doesn't stop them from being ultimately shit.

Is Genki shit compared to Tae Kim? Tae Kim have examples, not excersises, Tae Kim ultimate goal is teach you grammar, not Kanji. So far, Tae Kim is prrtty entertaining because it sounds like it's written by a really bitter person.

I guess it should work the same as english lyrics. Usually each line is grammatically unrelated to the following line, even when they're tematically the same, or not. Then again, I heard once that Japanese song wirtting is different from roman languages.

Personally, I don't like genki all that much so far. Maybe my opinion will change, but the first thing you see when you crack the book is a list of greetings and phrases that it expects you to memorize, followed by a hypothetical conversation between two people that you're meant to translate. Not only that, there's no kanji to be seen, and it makes reading a pain, at least for me. I've been grinding the fuck out of anki so I see words that I definitely know have a kanji and it just makes me want to vomit. Screw all that shit, I want to get down to fundamentals. I want to learn to conjugate, and all the different verb tenses. I want to learn how to chain adjectives and modify objects and shit. I'm ready for some motherfucking programming, but these faggots aren't convinced that I even know how to turn on the damn computer and boot up the IDE.

Tae Kim, and pretty much any shit on youtube, is infinitely better.

thanks

You're not going to have fun until you can play Japanese games for practice. The beginning is the hardest part, but it will pay off in the end.

I think the exercises are mainly for classroom learning anyway.

Definitively got that impression. Genki sound like those shitty books you get at academys for other language learning. Tae Kim even warn you about those, and how they teach you stupid stuff first that might become bad habits. Is there any user here who learned with Genki? I'm sure most anons did Tae Kim.

I don't disagree, but the reason we do classroom lessons/exercises is to reinforce what we're learning. If you take it slow and take 5 hours longer to learn because you're not in a classroom, then I guess sure skip it. But honestly I would probably do those classroom exercises more than once, just to help reinforce and remember what I've learned.

I meant to specify, I meant that I'd re-do them at a later time as REVIEW type stuff. Not like "do it, then re-do it immediately." I'm sure people could figure that, but I'll specify anyway.

So this time around I'm using Tae Kim for grammar. The book is pretty good but I find myself forgetting some concepts, and especially don't know how to practice verb conjugation. Is there any grammar deck, should I just revise the parts of the book, should I just try to make a conjugation table of every verb I learn through 2k/6k deck in order to practice?

By the way, what do you guys think of Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course?
Is RTK done because of it now?

Read entire sections, then verbally pretend to teach someone the entire section. If you fail a part of a section, look it up and say everything again from the beginning. Basically, rubber duck thing for programming.
Create an anki deck and test it. I learned that it's no good knowing the rules, if I have to constantly stop and think every time I need to conjugate a bunch of things. pastebin.com/f4UeZuFZ Every verb in the 2k/6kdeck, maybe some things in there that shouldnt be. Should speed things up for you dramatically.

This video and this chart will help a lot.

Never heard of it.

yuo wont lern chinese

Thanks!

I fucking always love Namasensei's way to put everything. "YOU SEE THIS FUCKING BEER RIGHT HERE? THIS .. IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE COFFEE ON YOUR BITCH ASS, IT AIN'T COFFEE… BITCH!"

You're right, I don't want to learn the language of the jews of Asia. Modern day laws of China resemble the fucking laws of the jews only they go even further. If you want to sell any electronic product in China you have to provide any source code associated with said product to the Chinese government. Now here's the thing… You will be fully aware before you give them your source code that it's common practice in China for the government of China to give any foreign source code to Chinese companies, who can then make Chinese knockoffs for cheaper if they so choose. You know this, and you have very little choice in the matter, either you give them the source code or they won't allow you to sell your product in China.

Fuck China, and fuck their shitty language. The only thing China ever provided the world that meant anything was giving their written language to Japan.

Damn weebs, should have killed them all in nam!

And even then, Japanese is a disaster because of that.

Well, we'll never know what the Japanese written system looked like before Manyogana if there was one. It's kind of like the Ark of the Covenant. There's talk that it existed, it could have existed at some time or somewhere, but it's never been proven or found. If there was a written dialect before the Chinese brought theirs, the Japanese were very quick to wipe it out.

So all we have is what we are provided.

Look what came in the mail.

That's pretty well printed.

It's engraved.

Are the shipping costs on Amazon.co.jp really inconsistent for anyone else right now? Been juggling stuff in my cart, and half the time the price to ship one game is around 800 yen, whereas other games are clocking in at more than double that for ONE game. It's even inconsistent across games from the same platform, that should have the same weight.

Is there a website where I can practice verb tenses?

Never bought from amazon.co.jp. Is it better than other import sites?

They're usually cheaper for pre-orders, yeah.

For ~6 months, I studied independently with Tae Kim, Japanese: The Manga Way, a self-made Anki deck, Jisho, and as much stuff written in Japanese as I could find and understand. I'm now taking a Japanese class at university with the 1st Genki book. The pace is too slow for me, and the books are very basic for how long they are. I'm tutoring some students in the 201 class (2nd Genki book) as a testimony of how ineffective Genki is compared to Tae Kim.

I have a number of problems with Genki. The books delay the use of kana by writing sentences in kana AND Romaji for the first few chapters. Providing Romaji just saps away any pressure to learn kana. You only learn a few kanji every so often, when kanji is something you should immerse yourself in daily. The book is pretty much kana soup. As Tae Kim warns against, it teaches you how to say "hello, my name is," "good evening," and all that on the first page. Although it does teach basic grammar in small bursts, I feel it encouages you to memorize the sentences instead of experiment in your own sentence. Most of the exercises are easily memorized cookie-cutter answers, too. I just can't recommend Genki over Tae Kim. I can recommend taking a class taught by a Japanese native, though, because my 先生 has wonderful feedback for improving my pronunciation, intonation, and accent.

I hate dumbasses like you who can't even look at a kanji and make the connection of, "Hey, we call different shapes and shit that have no inherent phonetic value different names for no reason, so why not just do that in writing?"
You can name all the shapes they taught you in first grade before you dropped out, can't you? Then you can memorize some FUCKING KANJI, NIGGA
ごめんなさい、失礼しちまうわけない;-;その調子で勉強を続けてがんばりなさい

uh huh…

I've bought several mangas from there. Including shipping it's still cheaper to buy an entire collection from there than a few books locally. Like all of Shirokuma Cafe was about as much as buying one or two of the books from a local place.

Keep in mind I'm Australian so there's a big wage/cost difference between here and Japan. As a result going on holiday there is great because you're looking at everything from the perspective of Australian wages, so it's cheap as. Especially when they don't tax booze anywhere near as much as over here. If you go over with friends you need to spend at least one night chilling in your hotel/apartment with a bag full of Strongs from the local convenience store. Just don't play a drinking game where you take a shot for every ad/show you see with Matsuko Deluxe. You will be dead by morning.

Also, drinking in public and on the train is totally cool. Australians going to Japan is like that episode of Futurama where Bender gets really fat when he becomes human and discovers all the cool shit he can do.

バンプ～

I want to get some kuronama. Anyone ever tried it? Is it expensive to import? Know any good sites for sake?

this guy sounds like a joke.

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So, what's a good hardcover Japanese to English dictionary? Needing one for the next semester of my class.

What's the point of Anki, anons? I'm using it and I'm trying to memorize things on it, but it seems kind of pointless, I susally mark the cards as again and I don't see I'm making any progress.

How long have you been studying?

During my work hours, I alternate between Tae Kim and Anki. Say, 30 minutes to 1 hour. Also, I find tedious listening to it and trying to learn it.

How many days?

2 weeks now, more or less. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I'm afraid to press good or easy, because I might forget the kanji.

First, you have to press good sometime. I never press easy personally, but you'll just pointlessly overload yourself if you never use good. You're not getting the optimal reputation spacing that way either. Secondly, it's only been two weeks. What are you expecting? To go translate that newest trap doujin that appeared on ex? Do you go to the gym for two weeks and expect to start benching the same weight as guys who have been doing it for three years or even three months? Fix the first problem, listen to some Japanese songs, read some 4komas and do your reps.

If you still have trouble recognizing kanji in two weeks then do radicals alongside them. Just don't fall for the mnemonics meme.

I wasn't really expecting much, but the fact that I still have problems remembering shit like 六つ and the others numerics like that worried me. I feel like I haven't made any progress at all. I mean, I actually learned the numbers because I practiced Karate, but when it comes to the "counting things" stuff, like 一つ instead of 一 I complicate myself a lot. But if you say that's normal, alright, user, I believe you.
How do I put the small つ when on keyboard?
Pic related is my japanese playlist. Mostly anime songs that I remember, and I'm trying to do it bigger. Any recommendation for 4komas or songs?
At what point you learn radicals in Tae Kim's guide? Or you don't at all? I wanted to learn radicals first and foremost to avoid this kind of things.

ltu or ltsu for just っ by itself, but by writing words that contain it the way they are usually romanized, with adouble consonant, will also make it appear. For example writing ippai, 'ppa' will get you っぱ.

Tae Kim's focus is on grammar.

Seeing things used in actual practice will help you better remember them but I think you'd probably be better off finishing or at least making some decent progress in Tae Kim before giving reading a shot otherwise it could be pretty frustrating. I'd also actually recommend non-4koma personally when starting out as what 4koma lack in larger illustrations they often make up for in text and the faster the pages go by, the more motivating.

Just take a quick look at anything you think you'd enjoy though and try to gauge if it seems like it's beyond your current ability. Nevertheless the most commonly recommended manga to beginners is probably よつばと！ It does have some slang that could throw you off, but there should be a Yotsuba guide somewhere in the op guide that explains everything in the first one or two volumes.

Learning foreign languages if fucking easy with all this freetime, wtf is wrong with you people?

貴方は絶対日本語を学ぶことができません。

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If i can spend 2500 hours on dota in 2 years, i can spend 2200 hours learning jap. My only problem is that learning at the start is kinda slow, since doing 10~ hiragana/katakana 100 times each every day until i memeorised them by heart takes a little while.

How the hell does that work?

実は日本語を分からへんってかもなぁ

The only problem is fucking on and kun'yomi. First
thing you know, 金 is pronuｎced 'きん' and then it's fucking 'かね'. How the fuck do I deal with this shit when thousands of character are like this?

Japanese is the English of Asia. You effectively have to just learn vocab and make a "best guess" as to the readings of new words.

"This 'hyperbole' is pronounced how it's spelled, 'hyperbowl', right?" "About that…."

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The thing with that is, kanji is a symbol, not a word made out of letters. If you dont have furagana with the kanji, you would have no idea how to read it if you havent seen it before (from what little i know about jap).

If you saw the word "epitome" in writing and had never heard it before you'd assume it was "epi-tome", like "tome" the type of book.
Just as if you saw 生憎 you might rightly assume it's せいぞう, because it's a compound word and those are the onyomi. Then a Japanese guy laughs at you and tells you it's "あいにく" because fuck you.

You're right in that if you don't know the kanji you'd have no idea. But I mean if you'd never seen half the alphabet you'd be pretty fucked, too. That's why it's important to learn the jouyou kanji and vocab. So you have those tools as a starting point. You might get the reading wrong; but people pronounce shit in English wrong all the time. Especially if they've only seen it written.

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I'm a delivery driver and mostly work evenings (which is why I'm awake at this ungodly hour) and am therefore in the car most of my time.

I need an audio book or android app or something of the like that I can listen to in my car and/or on headphones during downtime. I'd like to learn the Grammar rules before anything else, then some vocabulary, then move on to learning some Kanji and more about the written language.

I know it seems kind of backwards, but it's the only way I'm going to be able to absorb the information. Vocabulary is next to meaningless to me if I don't understand the grammar and have no way to apply it, and the written language is more difficult to absorb if I can't speak what I'm saying out loud.

I'd really rather not go the route of youtube videos unless they're purely audio.

Other way around. China is a shithole.

China has four tier 1 cities that I would say are much nicer than any US city at this point. For the last 15 years they've been pouring money into their infrastructure while we used it in Iraq.

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I never got this slow crawl through hiragana and katakana. Just fucking learn them in a day. As you read more, they will automatically be reinforced in your brain. If it takes you more than a week to get past the syllabaries, you are going to go through hell with kanji.

There's a radical deck on anki you can download. It contains both the radical and a card for you to write it, I personally froze all the writing cards because I don't write Japanese.
I was getting 水曜日　木曜日　火曜日 mixed up for a long time as well. After about 1 month most people see a noticeable increase in retention. As you learn more kanji you'll be better able to distinguish them. You just need to get more familiar.

I learned chink and speak it every day. Im trying to learn nip now and its so hard. I have a huge head start because I can read chink fluently, so kanji are easy for me (just gotta learn all the damn pronunciations for each kanji). Bah fuck it, I guess im going to put in another 2k hours to learn nip.

Im doing it the namasensei way. 50 mother fucking times each in my notebook. And i want to learn how to write japanese.

im glad being a chink worshipper is videogames

バンプ～

Even though I want to eventually I'm not learning Japanese right now (because I'm currently being grammatically assraped by Ancient Greek as part of my college course and I try to learn another language on top of that I'll probably die) but I heard that Animal Crossing: Wild World is a good game for learning since in Japanese it literally lets you choose between hiragana and kanji at the start of the game, so you can play through it even as an uber-beginner.

It's a common mistake to assume that no kanji means it's easier to read, but it's not. That's only easy for people who already know the language.

To add to this guy's question, is it true that most SNES games use only kana? I remember reading this somewhere but then I remembered an user asking what a certain kanji meant (it was 'obtain' I think) in LoZ: A Link To The Past

Reading this thread reminds me of how hard the first stages of learning Japanese are and I am glad that I am way past them.

このスレを読めたら、最初の日本語勉強の難しさを思い出す。俺がもう過ぎたのはよかった。

I hope that was right. I can read VN's already, but making sentences is still tricky for me.

練習が成功のこつなんだ。インターネットで使って、日本人と話すことはめちゃ有用と思うな。
それも日本に行くと、たくさん日本人と話しっての機会があるね。

俺の一番困難が文法なんだ。まだ下手と思うなぁ。

ᛁᛐᛐ᛬ᚴᚢᛘᚵᚢᚵᛚᛁᚿᚵ᛬ᚴᚿᛰᛒᚵᛰᛒᛚᛁᚿᛌ

Is it really better to use Google IME over the version built into windows? Is Google's bot net powered prediction going to act like training wheels and stop/slow me from learning things that I'd have to do myself with Microsoft's system?

そのルーンはどのタイプの？　「fuþorc」ってじゃねぇようなんだけど。

ᚦᚢ᛬ᛁᚱᛐ᛬ᛌᛐᚢᚱ᛬ᛌᛐᚱᛆᚴᚢᚱ᛫

よく精液嗽する？

ᚠᛦᚱᛁᚱ᛬ᚦᛁᚴ᛫

what are these literal nigger runes? do you gargle semen with the ferocity of a thousand faggots?

It's medieval runes. Either the faggot's Icelandic and I can't translate the second post, or he's switching languages each time and using a translator.
Most likely the latter, considering the first one is just phonetically English.

ᚼᚱᛆᚠᚿᛆᚱᚿᛁᚱ᛬ᛉᚢᚿᚢ᛬ᚼᛆᚠᛆ᛬ᚦᛁᚴ᛬ᛌᚴᛁᛐᚴᛆᚱᛚ᛫

練習なら俺は数の日本人の知人が居る （現実とSteamで）　けど、照れるか怠けるかの理由で彼らと話して行かない。

まあ、こうスレがあってお前たちと話すのが十分かもしれない。

そういえば、お前は男の娘が好きですか？読み練習のためにこのVNを読んでいる。凄く面白い物語だよ！

お前はVNを楽しんでいるなら「教えて先生！オトコの娘学園」を勧める。

俺の場合は、VNを大好きじゃないんだけど。

この頃、練習のために「エストポリス２」ってを遊んでいるよ。小さいころからゲームなんだよ。残念ながら日本語力はちょっと下手なんだから、そろそろ遊んでいるなぁ。

それも「あずまんが大王」ってや「よつばと」ってを読んでいる。でもこれらがゲームじゃねぇさ。

日本人の友達がいないんけど、俺はだいたい積極的な人なんだ。これから去年、居酒屋でたくさん日本人と飲んで、喋ったよ。めちゃめちゃ楽しかったなぁ。懐かしいぃぃ…

Do you honestly believe that they use futhark runes to write in Iceland nowadays? Fucking American education, I swear.

1) Look at the runes, they're medieval futhork, not futhark
2) is in Icelandic, no?
3) Runes were supplanted by the roman alphabet fucking everywhere forever ago
4) 違いない、デカチンをフェラすることが大好きお前。

No.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_orthography

This is Futhark en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runes#Elder_Futhark_.282nd_to_8th_centuries.29

I meant the language was Icelandic from my best guess; which could be totally wrong as I don't speak it. Not the orthography. Nobody uses runes these days, so the modern orthography is of course going to be different.
Also I don't know if it's a unicode thing, because it seems to have a mixed bag of runes. But looking at the glyphs there it looks to be medieval futhork. Check out the glyphs in elder futhark compared to these: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_runes#Unicode

Also considering the dude's first post is basically English if you actually read out the runes, I'm guessing he's most likely put some phrases into different languages via google translate and then put the result into one of those "GET YUR NAME IN RUNES!" websites.
じゃあ、必要じゃないなぁ。俺の興味だけなんだよ。

バンプ～

>Playing Dark Souls 3 late at night.
He say's English is hard but he's learning so why the hell not try to learn Japanese now?

do it faget

Today will be a fun day.

That much vocab isn't too bad. Kanji is the real bitch, especially when you write them all out.

I was getting up to 100+ kanji reviews per day, so I just set my new cards to 0 for now. I finished all the jouyou kanji anyway, all I have left is obscure shit that isn't even in RTK.

Problem is that's just one deck. I'm in for about 350 reviews today. Likely 450-500 when you factor in fuck-ups and the new cards on my N2 deck.
I've been maintaining this pace for the past month or so now, anyway. Just gotta power through N2.

Oh, I only have 1 vocab deck. Easier to manage.

Unfortunately I started out on Memrise, so when I imported 1.5 years worth of progress it got a bit messy in anki.

Feels bad

Even just reviewing is advancing.

頑張って、アノン！

Ayo fuccboi i'm gonna need some source on that picture there.

here ya go, fag
exhentai.org/g/1013201/ba23d9cd12/

I hope you know nipponese :^)

Thanks user.Hoping this shit pass, i'm nearly done with the second part of the tae kim guide, i want to speed up the process. Shit seems easy enough to understand but i need to read to put in in practice and see if i really got it

I can grope my way through with my shitty nipskills, I'm sure. Dick bonus will allow me to intuitively grasp any hard kanji.

Disappointed to see it isn't loli though.

It is about half loli though.

H-manga is such good nip practice.

You haven't seen shit yet, 後輩.

Almost 2 years now. Never missed a day. Even while travelling overseas. ドンドン亀が一番仕方なんだな？

２年が経ったって？あ、すまん。日本語が少し硬いのだからお前が後輩だと間違えて思ってしてしまった。お前は凄く楽なペースで勉強しているよね、毎日２０単語だけ。

俺の方は痛みが好きかもしれないから毎日５０新しい単語を学ぶ。時々、時間の余裕があったら、７５から１００までになるんだ。１５０以上単語になった事もある。

この厳しい学び方で数ヶ月を経て中級の日本語を読めるようになった、自慢していないけど。

you can't learn japanese

"Two years have passed (since you began studying)? Oh, sorry. Japanese is only a little tough, so I mistook you as a beginner. It seems like you're studying at a very comfortable pace, isn't that right? Only twenty new words a day? I'm a masochist so I like to learn fifty new words a day. Sometimes, when I have more free time, I (make an effort to learn) seventy five or even one hundred. No more than one hundred and fifty, though. It took me several months of rigorous studying to reach this level, though, but even so it fills me with pride."

Rate my translation, senpai.

This.
I've tried for 2 years and only learned kana.

I think I fucked up. I learned at least 100 Kanji. But although I remember the form and the meaning, I can remember the pronunciation.
Say that I want to reset Anki to start over on android, where's the option? Should I reset it or there's an easier way?

Also, my new card limit is 1000. Is that ok?

You don't need to remember the pronunciation of each kanji.

Really? Well, holy hell, I've been doing it wrong all these time, then. I pressed red trying to remember both the symbol and pronunciation. I guess I'll go faster now.

You should still try to though. My rule of thumb is 1 kana wrong per 5 kana in the reading is ok.

You think that's bad? I know about 500 kanji but I barely know the pronunciations of any of them, I keep telling myself I'll learn them eventually but I'm so focused on remembering the characters and meanings

Learn the pronunciation when you learn vocab instead. When you learn kanji you should only focus on the character and the meaning.

All this time I've called vocab kanji. I never thought anyone studied individual kanji. Have I been mistaken this whole time?

I also generally refer to kanji as vocabulary. However, studying radicals and readings goes hand in hand with learning vocabulary, i.e. if you study vocab you'll learn the different readings through that anyway, so there's no point in trying to learn each kanji's specific reading.

Yes. Kanji are specifically the characters that make up vocab.

Even if a word is only made up of one kanji, there's a difference between the word and the kanji (think of the letter A compared to the word "a").

I did the same tbh.Stroke order and principal meaning, when the time the vocab start i'll learn how to pronounce them.
I already started with the vocab of Tae Kim so it's all good

So what's generally accepted as the best order to learn? Currently, my plan is Kanji = Grammar > Vocab.

Is Grammar and Vocab the same thing?

Grammar is the reading, vocab is the speaking and listening, I think

If that's the case, then it's in my best interest.

Grammar: the language's syntax. To use a programming example, grammar is the logic behind the algorithms that work in tandem with your variables, which serves to facilitate the functioning of your program.
Vocabulary: Words. To go along with the previous example, words are like variables, they're symbols or strings of characters that hold data.
I'd do vocab and grammar. If you do core2k/6k, you'll learn vocabulary and kanji readings simply by learning how each word uses one kanji differently.
Example:
「大き」　and 「大好き」. The first one is pronounced 「おおき」or "ooki" and the second is pronounced 「だいすき」 or "daisuki". Even though they both start with 「大」, they're pronounced differently. That's because the first one uses the kunyomi and the second uses one of the on'yomi. You could've taken the time to find this specific symbol and memorized all of its readings, but why do that when you can just learn words and pick up the nuances of pronunciation as you go along?

Using programming as an example is a bad idea. Just because someone likes video games doesn't mean he's into programming, just like enjoying movies doesn't mean someone is into filmmaking. A much better example that more people can understand would be construction. Grammar is the blueprints, and vocabulary is the raw materials.

Fine, fine.
Vocabulary: Words. Words represent ideas.
Grammar: Syntax. Grammar are the rules that govern how the language works.
You can spend all your time learning vocabulary words, but unless you understand the fundamental principles that allow you to produce sentences, you're not going to be able to speak, write, or even understand the language. It's that' simple. You must learn both vocabulary and grammar.

his is a better example. Then I guess that's exactly what I'm doing, considering I'm doing Anki and Tae Kim at the same time.

5/10 bretty good keep it up.

Try not to ignore the okurigana and tense of the verb despite them looking weird at times. Remember this is a language of a xenophobic archipelago people that's on the other side of the world and everything about it is upside-down compared to English.

仕事があるの？意思は失礼じゃないけど、俺の場合そんな時間がない。
そのうえankiで書き場を使うので、復習がちょっと長いな。

実はお前の日本語発達をめちゃ羨ましいんや。でも日本に行った時、俺のレベルがよかったなぁ。日本人と話す時、全然問題やあらへん。（笑）

今日の復習をまだしないんだ。

俺は大学生のだ。この学期に遅くて登録したから毎日予定が狂っていて、授業の間の暇があふれている。時々締め切りや宿題や他の学問系なことは日本語勉強と争うけどなぜか全部が大丈夫。

日本に行ったことがあるよね、君は。羨ましいよ。そういえば、日本人が人種差別をするって本当のか？

京都のレストランでウエーターは「no tables!」って言った。でも、たくさんテーブルがあったね。大半の場合、日本人は英語を分からないので、「外人禁止」ってがもっと容易なんだね。
この事件以外、みんなでめちゃめちゃフレンドリーなんだよ。日本語を話したら、よく日本人がとても優しいよ。

二年間日本に暮らしたことあるけど、その間、そういうことはいっさいなっかた。下手でも、日本語で話せば、みんな親切に接してくれる。相手に通じる言葉で話す努力は肝心なところみたいだ。さもないと、>>11850762みたいな事が起こる。

Yeah, definitely. In that case I was with my friend who didn't speak a word; so we didn't get a chance to open up with some moonspeak.

Out of curiousity are you a student there or working somewhere? I'm looking to start applying in a couple of months, when I finish my current job, for something over there or go on a working holiday and apply internally.

Not a student or working there. I was there for two years specifically to learn the language in the hopes that it would open up business opportunities here.

Another helpful thing for the list.

Here's similar one.

おそろしい暴動

Is there any good VIDEO GAMES that can help you learn nippon?

I sure love some hamburgers.

That's pretty inventive, but I am skeptical about its taste.

Is there an specific Anki deck for radicals?

It have too much rice on top, other than that it looks like it would be too spicy if what's on bottom is Wasabi and Gari.

ankiweb.net/shared/info/1044119361

How well (/to what degree) do I need to get this kana shit down before I start kanji and core vocab decks and tae kim grammer?

Until you recognize all the kana by heart.

Already did and in a really short amount of time.
So, does Anki also show you how to read kanji instead of just telling you what it means?

I wanna be able to read it as well as remember.
Also, I want to know how to understand Japanese fluently, Japanesepod wants me to sign up but I'm not comfortable in signing for anything.

The core2k deck has the reading in kana as well as the meaning of the vocab.
If you want to learn the kanji with readings try Kodansha Kanji Learners Course or Kanjidamage or sth.

Thanks, now I need to know where I can learn the spoken language.
Or does the grammar book teach all that?

Go for Tae Kim, Geki is shit. Grammar doesn't exactly cover pronunciation, but it does cover the correct way of speaking. at the very least it teaches you that 「は」　and　「を」 are pronounced Wa and O under the particle context, and so on.

I would suggest to nail down the Kana's until it is drilled in your head.

I think it does here and there. But i would also recommend Memrise if Anki does not have it. I am taking a course that was imported over from Anki to Memrise recently.

memrise.com/course/1380354/6000-japanese-words/

and also JLPT5 which was not imported from Anki but still really good. There is also a JLPT4 version as well.

memrise.com/course/122927/jlpt-n5-readings/

Have both reading and vocab on them. Also would recommend +Katakana and +Hiragana

I agree with Genki is kind of shit to be honest. I would tell you to get Japanese the Manga Way as it goes over key grammar points and shows visuals. Plus its not like the other manga series that tries to sell it to you in volumes and parts.

Dragon's Dogma. The pawns will spout the same dialogue over and over again until your ears are bleeding. In English it may be annoying to you because you don't quite get anything out of TIS WEAK TO FIRE for the hundredth time, but I think you can see why this high level of repetition could be beneficial for someone trying to learn how words in another language are used. Play with Japanese voice acting as well as Japanese HUD/menus.
I don't know about that.

I haven't laughed so hard in a while.

He then said this considering Japanese girls. He's also wanting to help me find a girlfriend.
I haven't laughed this hard in a while.

Oh how do you teach a Japanese english?

hispachanfiles.org/a/res/152460.html

For any spanish speakers.

I'm not getting anything.
I know images are getting loaded but nothing is showing up.

Wait, never mind. It was my browser.
I wish post passwords didn't change automatically when changing pages, I can't delete it.

hispachan.org/a/res/195571.html
I meant to link this one myself…

Hey user, he is trying to help you. Best case scenario you actually learn Japanese and you get some nudes from some random streamer jap girl. Give it a try.

Correct him whenever he makes a mistake, I guess.

Hispachan is kind of shit. I seriously hate that imageboard, and I don't understand that shitty format of the thread. I seriously consider just translating this english OP and posting it over there, the only problem is that all the resources are on ensligh, and I can't be half assed to translate those as well.

Is there a anki deck for the kanas?

ankiweb.net/shared/info/722065315
ankiweb.net/shared/info/1678048485

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:^*
No homo brah

im too lazy to look at this now so i'll just save this page for later.

Dunno. I corrected him using Google Translate. The translate is shit though obviously. I corrected him where I could at least. I think I'll start studying Japanese tonight. Might as well make the barrier easier to access for both of us.

Is there a list of good nip games that use mostly hiragana + easier kanji, or that use kanji but put the hiragana pronunciation under it?

I was going to learn japanese via Namasensei but I've had a hard time motivating myself to do it anymore. I know I really should keep it up because the older I get the harder it will be, but I just end up wasting time on here instead of studying. I learned hiragana, but jumping into katakana was a little scary and I've just been so busy lately with college. What should I do?

Is it something you want to do? If so, just fucking do it. It's actually that easy. Everybody can come up with 101 excuses for why something is too hard, or too troublesome, but not a single excuse is a valid one.
Just stop whining internally, and get the lead out. Don't coddle yourself. Hold yourself accountable.

出来たくても出来ない

I don't know if I want to. I started for the wrong reasons, but I really should learn a language, and at least japanese is a nice one. I think the real problem is that I'm just awful at studying anything.

Studying is boring as shit, so it's understandable that you're shit at it. The nice thing about it, though, is that it's like being in an RPG. You can see your knowledge increase in real time, like a progress bar. That shit is tangible, and that's a good way to motivate.
Set yourself a goal, topple it, then set another.

If you had a hard time with higarana and you're scared of katakana, then you'll suffer like a bitch. Not to discourage you, but this shit takes time, sometimes a lot, but you should be able to learn the kana in less than a week.

What was it? I'm here for the anime titties mostly.
It's not, really. I used to criticize romance languages, but after understanding how retarded Japanese is, I'm not really sure about that. If you want to learn a new language, go for something easier.

Is Namasensei really good? I just saw the first lesson, and although I already know kana and I''m a bit further into anki and Tae Kim, I was wondering if I should watch it too. Looks like fun.

He's only good for motivation. His te-form video is the only one that will teach you something important.

Studying isn't fun, that's for sure, but namasensei makes it not awful. I do sometimes not write it 50 times in my motherfuckin notebook, but that's usually due to time constraints.

I didn't have that hard of a time with hiragana, I'm just scared of starting off into a whole new block of things while still being 2+ years away from having the faintest ability to speak or read things faster than 5 words per minute.

I wanted to practice it with a girl I liked, but it didn't pan out. I don't want to admit that that's what finally got me to try to learn a language though, so I'm still trying. As for romanticism, of all the asian languages, its the only one that doesn't sound like utter shit.

くーいて、ぐーいで、うつるーって、ぬむぶーんで、すーして

There's nothing shameful about that. The fastest way to learn a language by far is to obtain a lover that speaks it.

I remember that I used to have a lot of time learning kana, because it was like a game, but Kanji is a lot more tedious. You know what works for me? Studying at work because compared to the shit I have to do there, studying is fun
It's not really new, is just the same shit you already had, but different. Some characters are similar and the biggest problem you'll have is that they're too similar. Other than that, if you already know Higarana, you'll learn Katakana twice as fast.
It's alright, user. Let me tell you a little story. I'm a spic so I know both Spanish and Japanese, and there was this girl I used to practice English with. She also learned Japanese, and she rejected me because she just pitied me. So once I learn this damn thing I'll do 3 things, play Kamen Rider, Read Yosuga no Sora, and show her that I'm not an idiot, or that at least I learned Japanese.
I don't think you got what I meant with romance language, in any case, I agree, Japanese sounds better, but the discrepancy between the spoken and written language is really fucking stupid.

Shut up, user, I'll get all retrospective again.

A lot of fun*

Easy cure: stop being such a woman.

Can't help it. Although this girl broke my heart, I still think she is really cute. Even though she is a huge bitch.

I feel the same way sometimes. I had a friend who was born in Okinawa and stuff and I really wanted to learn Japanese with her. And I understand how you wanted to learn with someone, I am the same way too. Sometimes I hold off fun things because I want to do it with a friend, and in the end I waste my own time. That's not a very good way to do things. So if you get stuff done with right now, even if it's a bit boring and grating and not special, you will end up better in the end.

Think about where you will end up with the language. It will be much better than the journey there. And there will be some points where you will be "I'm glad I didn't slack on this."

Katakana is easy shit though, honestly kana is like nothing. Go do flash cards for an afternoon and you'll be fine. Along the way you might have to look at a list of the kana but you will remember them soon enough. Get a book. Do a little each day. Take it one day at a time. Don't be afraid to be wrong and stuff, you can try some sentences and ask questions here whenever.

俺は日本語を学生で
ブムポ

I'm pretty sure it's 「だ」
俺は日本語を学生だ
it's 「上げる」or「あげる」 (ageru) or　バンプ if you want to spell it out as a loanword. Keep studying. You nigger.

Oh, yeah. well, thanks for the input. I forget that 「だ」 is being while 「で」 is topic, isn't it? Also, pretty sure that I'm saying student and not "to study".
I just wanted to bump the thread And get some nice input up my ass

Not sure about 「で」 but 「だ」 is a more causal form of "to be". 「です」 is polite. You are effectively saying "As for me, Japanese student am". If you wanted to say, "I'm studying Japanese right now", you'd say
今、俺は日本語の勉強だ。
or just 今、日本語の勉強だ。 because you can omit yourself as a topic.

Not exactly; だ is always declarative　です is not, but for 95% of usage they're the same. checked

What. Doesn't it just add emphasis?

(Checked)
I see user. I had that small doubt. I know the one you wrote sounds better and is more specific but 俺は日本語を勉強だ is grammatically correct, right? Even if it sounds weird literally translated.

Whenever you end a sentence without a verb you have to add a 「だ」 , not exactly sure, though. As this user say, is to declare something, specially if it isn't an action

I'll just post the relevant Tae Kim page:
ctrl+f : 「です」 is NOT the same as 「だ」
on guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/polite

Actually, I'm not quite sure about 「を」. I thought it was a topic marker, and you use it specify when an action is happening.
オレゴンを食べる。
In this case, 「を」 is being used to indicate what is being eaten. 「の」 on the other hand is possessive, and it indicates objects or qualities that something possesses. In the previous example
日本語の勉強だ。
You're saying "I'm doing Japanese studies", and the 「の」 indicates specifically that the studies are Japanese.

At least, that's my understanding. I am prepared to be wrong, though.

what the fuck, I meant to spell out オレンジ

To DO 勉強, as in to use it as a verb and not a noun you would need replace だ / です with する / します

Honestly not sure about の / お myself.

を　is only used to show the object of transitive verbs. It's one of the most simple particles.

In "I study Japanese", "Japanese" is the object. So to say "I am studying Japanese" you would say 「私は日本語を勉強している」

私の日本語能力わ悪い
Quick question; in the above sentence can I omit the topic particle in casual speech or otherwise? The double 'wa' sound seems off to me.

...

Use が instead.

I assumed
私の日本語能力わ悪い
and
私の日本語能力が悪い

It's pronounced "wa", but the particle is は.
Also you'd generally say 下手(へた) when describing a lack of skill or confidence in something like that.

I'd more likely write it as:
僕は日本語が下手なんだ。
or if you're trying to be super casual and drop shit:
日本語下手だ。

I recommend going back to Tae Kim and any textbooks you've got for a bit first. Learn the stuffy proper way of doing things before getting into casual speech and its shortcuts.
I've got a friend who went straight to using those shortcuts as soon as he could. I've long since overtaken him in ability and he's learned a lot of bad habits.

Nearing the bump limit, I guess we wait until page 14 to make a new thread?

BIG HOLE

I also recommend Japanese the Manga Way. It's too big to link here so use this instead. Hopefully my IPFS client can go 15 minutes without crashing.
gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmcbAsYyX1P8wGsJTs12V2rhMvrVUnDkhrGYPqgUEnecmz/Japanese the manga way.pdf

Somewhere far away, Tae Kim is autistically screeching.

No. What you said would mean that you are the physical incarnation of the act of studying Japanese, not that you're performing the action. 日本語を勉強しています is what you were trying to say.

I'm very new to this language, so this is probably a really stupid question. Just starting to get into kanji and I'm learning shit that is undoubtedly useless.
One of my friends tried to type "blue eyes white dragon" in romaji. I think he translated it word for word or something, and got
"Ao me shiro ryuu"

That's wrong, right?
It would be 青眼(目??)の白龍(竜? fuck)
"seigan no hakuryuu", google tells me.
this pronunciation is drastically different than the first one my friend gave, even though his seemed correct at first because it used each individual kanji's own pronunciation
青 = ao, 目(眼??) = me, etc.

Now on to my dumbfuck question:
Does kanji change it's pronunciation depending on what kanji are next to it? How do you even keep track of this?
If you stumble upon a combination of kanji that you have never seen before, even if you recognize each individual character, are you just fucked if you want to pronounce it?

Also if I used the kanji in the parenthesis instead, would it be wrong?

polite sage because I don't want to bump the thread with my shit question, even though we're 3 away from the bump limit.

Usually, if it's multiple kanji together, they will use the onyomi pronunciation. Ao and shiro are kunyomi.
A lot of practice.

When the Japanese, um, borrowed kanji from China, they got it wrong. There's no other way to say it. According to Google, the shit came over in the 5th century, because Japanese traders needed to communicate with their Korean and Chinese counterparts. For every existing Japanese word (what we today call the 'KUNyomi' word), they tried to find the corresponding Chinese kanji, and pair them up. Furthermore, they decided to use the Chinese pronunciation of the words, too, but got it wrong … It's kind of like Canada: everyone in Canada has to learn Quebeqois French, even though real French can't understand Quebeqois-French! Anyway, the decision to force the square peg of Chinese characters in the round hole of the existing Japanese language leads to some really janky situations!
JANKY SITUATION 1: 150 words all having the same ON-yomi.
Whichever seafaring trader decided to import kanji to Japan obviously couldn't speak Chinese! Duh - Chinese has tones, and Japanese doesn't. The Japanese trader was like, "It all sounds the same - KOU, SHOU, wing, wong, whatever. So let's import something we don't understand!" And the Japanese land-lubbers for some reason were heard to reply, "Here is a whole new vocabulary that adds nothing to our existing language, and which can't be understood by Chinese either! OK, we'll learn it, but only if we can keep our existing language, so now we have to learn twice as many words for shit we already knew how to say!"
And the seafaring traders were like, "OK deal."
And then, "Hey! Someone's trying to be Catholic over there!"
"That's over the line - let's massacre the whole village!"
That is how Japanese multiculturalism went, back in the day.
JANKY SITUATION 2: Kanji which have two (or more!) ONyomi.
China has hella different dialects. So one Japanese trader would come back from Shanghai, where they pronounce 青い (blue) as SEI, and he'd teach everyone in his town to say SEI. Meanwhile, another Japanese trader would come back from Hong Kong, where they pronounce 青い as SHOU, and he'd teach everyone in HIS town to say SHOU. So there's that.
JANKY SITUATION 3: Duplicate kanji.
Even after assigning each Japanese word to a kanji, they still had hella kanji left over. So they took native Japanese words (KUNYOMI, remember) with 2 or 3 nuances and ASSIGNED EACH NUANCE TO A DIFFERENT KANJI, WHILE KEEPING THE KUNYOMI THE SAME. The most infamous examples are the 3 katais (硬い, 固い, and 堅い), the 3 hakarus(計る, 図る, and 測る) , and the 3 tsutomerus(勤める, 努める, and 務める).
As if that were not pernicious enough, they frequently picked kanji which looked as similar as their meanings:
激 - intense 極 - extreme
摸 - pattern 模 - model
傾 - incline 偏 - lean or be predisposed to
Another example: to freeze is こおる, and frost/ice is こおり - both clearly came from the same Japanese word. But when they were picking Kanji to assign to the Japanese words, こおる became 凍る and こおり became 氷. So now you have to learn twice as many kanji, PLUS you STILL have to learn the original Japanese words (koori and kooru) in order to PRONOUNCE them. So nothing was achieved! Can you believe that shit??? Beginner students have been known to weep openly in class when the teacher tries to explain about this.

In that instance あおめ does actually mean blue eyes, せいがん has a different meaning. Though they both use the same kanji. せいがん is closer to "clear eyes" as in welcoming and open.

青目(あおめ) is also slang for Westerners it seems.

Could be different in Quebec, but French was an optional class here. Can't say I know a single person who speaks it personally.

Same here. I could have taken Spanish or French for extra credits but I said fuck that and skipped them most of the time. When I was younger I only liked Math anyways with a little history on the side.

Holy fuck. Thank you for the explanation.
Seems like kanji just tripled in difficulty from what I previously assumed.

I just wanted to ask a quickie:

It's always stressed that in nippon words are pronounced how the hiragana suggest, unlike english where something like through and threw can have the same pronunciation regardless of the letters used.

However if a word ends in "sai" it is pronounced "sigh" when if the first statement held true it'd be sa-ee. Why is this?

I is an "ee" sound.
E is an "eh" sound.

Y-yeah I know that much. But then why is sai pronounced with a hard, english I sound. Like in Gomenasai. Maybe it's not like that and I'm just mishearing it but it sounds like it.

Where are you hearing people pronounce sai as sa-eh?

Those are both pronounced the same though…

Okay, in your best words describe how you'd pronounce "sai" as in gomenasai.

translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=TT#ja/en/さい　
press the little speaker icon here and it will pronounce it for you

It always sounds different in games or animu or listening to people talk nippon.

Off-topic, but since the thread is bumplocmed, what is a good resource to learn english? Something like this whole guide.

From what language?

Oh, yeah, Spanish. Some Apps or books would be ideal.

Isn't there a spanish to english duolingo course? I'm not sure how indepth it goes, but you could try that.

Is duolingo any good?

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Next time just "ctrl+z".

Shoulda just waited 4 days.

thanks, but do you know if ctrl+z fucks with your statistics?

I thought maybe. hindsight, though.

Anki automatically creates backups every time you close it. I think it stores 30 by default.

In the Anki folder in My Documents, your username, then backups.

Pretty sure you can ctrl+z after a rescheduling mishap as well if it happens again.

まじで
このくそばか外人なんて。
正解は：
＞俺 / 私は日本語の学生だ / です

Negro, I'm gonna blow your fucking mind, but the card's name, while spelled with that kanji, is literally just pronounced: buruu aizu howaito doragon. yeah, I know it's supposed to be "Aome no shiro/hakuryuu," but the pronunciation I just mentioned is the furigana and is the actual pronunciation of the card, because the Japanese apparently think English is cool or some shit

My 中級 perch may not be that high, but damn does it feel good to look down from it.