Dawn of Failure 3

Or is it Dawn of moba ?
Seriously wtf happend ?
the hype is gone for me since the 1st videos where you see the force commander moving like Uther from w3 the lascannon changed into simple lasgun etc …
but let's recap this "dawn of war" 3:

thoses are 3 relic's strategy game iconic aspect. And they are: GONE.

IIRC orks can hack now ? seriously?

FUCKING CALL IT DAWN OF CARTOON AND BE DONE WITH IT
but don t rape the dawn of war name.

Btw: DoW 2 whenever you like it or not was still a dawn of war game. just more tactical, giving high ranked game a feeling of : "animated TT game" check Maestro cast youtube channel

but this dawn of war 3? how can anyone can still be hype for this game ? if you are one of thoses then please explain yourself ! I really want to understand why.

out of topic: btw: no new from Space Hulk Deathwing ? i guess it really was a failure. Just like i called it: when you see the edditor (focus) roll back to a toxic pre-order system (by putting exclusive content on it) instead of pursuing what they did on battlefleet gothic "early adopters" (same bonus for pre order or buying in the 1st month) you KNOW there is something fishy making them not trust the reviews

Go look at their community managers and all will be explained

Not much you can do with the source material, especially when all they ever focus on is Humans vs. Orks, something everyone got their fill of by the time Warcraft 2 came along.

Cry more about EYE

Never played it.

some 40k game are good
dawn of war 1 was a tons of fun (even if eldar was broken, but i m speaking about fun not competitive)

Dawn of war 2 was great too, i almost never played skirmish because i suck at tactical game but i enjoy watching recast and the compaign was simply: amazing
(i also had a lot of fun in "the last stand" back when it was balanced and hard before chaos rising)

this DoW3 will be worst than eternal crusade .

It'll be shit for a number of reasons.
The main reason being they alienate the core RTS fans by making it MOBA-like.
So the already small (and sadly shrinking) RTS community will not buy it. The trendies are going to overlook it because there is LOL and DOTA among many others.
So they are pretty much burning money.

All they had to do was to just clone the first DOW and throw in a couple of new units but i'm guessing the people who did the first DOW are already gone for being CIS gendered hwite males.

Doubt it, WH40k is nothing but Space Nazis anyways.

Don't forget.

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To begin with there was no way this game could be truly massive scale.
Everyone and their grandmother has abilities. P player can use only so many abilities before things become a clusterfuck.
Why did they sell it as large scale combat, when the game works against that ?

My bad, all I have to go off is my Tabletop codex that's full of nazi imagery.

more like
"come on camarades ! to victory !"

It's not enough that you work and pay taxes until you die. You also have to suffer a lot in between.

This will be worse than RA3, mark my words. At best they're going for something like Warcraft III, which tbh, is still a step down.

This a textbook example of developers making a game for wider audiences

It's idiots like you that made relic design dow3 the way they did.

YOU
are the cancer killing this industry, not relic, not developers.
Kill yourself.

(checked)
Completely accurate post


RA3 had some redeeming aspects to it. This will be like CNC4

And there's STILL people saying "DIS AINT A MOBA CUZ THE MAP AINT THREE LANE ONLY OK??????", what a fucking joke of a game this is turning out to be, it's so bad at this point that the only resemblance of Dawn Of War is only in the name and nothing else, it's shaping up to be blunderborn levels of awful, and I hope it dies just as fast so that they see that this is nothing more than an amalgamation of poor decisions on every level.


At the very least RA3 has its fun. Sure, it's not exactly at the level of quality as the original ones by westwood, and it really is dumbed down in certain areas (the economy in particular) but you can have some fun with it, especially now that there's mods available for it. This piece of shit instead aims to be another focus-group-tested, wide mass appeal, tryhard esport derivative game with no soul whatsoever.

Wew…

Dawn of War II couldn't decide what it wanted to be. Was it a MOBA? Was it an RTS? Was it an action RPG? Or was it an RTT? Frankly I wished they had turned it into a full action RPG with four player coop . It would have been alright just not a Dawn of War.

They could at least be honest about it. The first thing they said was that it would be a proper RTS and a come back to DoW1. Everything they've shown since then screams FUCK YOU RTS PLAYERS WE WANT THE MOBA AUDIENCE but they still go with the lie.

This game really looks like ass. I really liked DoW 1, mostly liked DoW 2, but this one is going to be awful.

neither DOW II was a tactical RPG.
so not a RTS with massive battle, nor a moba

It certainly attempted to be something different, in a way it was doing what DoW1 did: be a different game among the genre. I liked the game for its solid single player experience, but it certainly has its flaws as well, the multiplayer in particular being a jumbled mess of poor balancing decisions. At least you can see that the effort was there in trying to be its own thing, even if its design has some mixed messages.

What bothers me the most is that it doesn't look remotely grim dark. The artstyle is too cartoonish and cleam.

Why are you expecting anything from this shitshow?

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You should see the Eldar titans on rollerskates

I loved even dawn of war 2. But how shit dow3 looks has me completely demoralized.

This looks like some cheap shit developed in korea, or india or something.

DOWII was pretty dissapointing but I could still enjoy the campaign. This is going to make DOWII look like the saviour of RTS in comparison though, it's going to be just as bad as Supreme commander 2.

Don't you know Goyim that is what the modern RTS gamer wants? Starcraft is totally the iconic RTS! Now buy our faction DLC! only $15 a faction!

The empire is just nazi catholics in space.

DoW2 was nothing like starcraft though.

jesus christ, i hate how many retards space marines attract to 40k. if this is the case, i would honestly prefer the old first editions where the lore was just a meme, space marines were just humans in really big armor, the eye of terror was just a really lawless place full of vandals and the space marines were just police

Space Marines used to be ok. They were super strong and amazing inthe lore, BUT they always lost in desperate ways. The grim dark story of the w40k universe was about how humanity was dying out, and that there was no hope for reversing the trend and the space marines were kind of an aspect of that, which made them kind of sad.

Now that e40k tries to appeal to a broader audience the space marines just win all the time and it's very irritating.

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oh I see, neo-Holla Forums is made up of leftists or infowars fans

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Mostly Hitler though.

He is more spiritual, therefore Jesus, Yahweh, Budhha etc.

Goebbels

thats would be
== G-O-G-E == Vandire

not the Emperor retard

I fucking hate Holla Forums and memes


I hope your not one of those retards who confuse the Death Korps with nazis.

People gave a lot of shit to DoW2 but it was actually a really well-designed and intense game. I think both DoW1 and DoW2 have their merits.

DoW3 is shaping up to be 100% shit though.

Product of the times and the worst IG refgimemt should really just get removed

Literal who chapter with a stealth gimmick space marines shouldn't have

Oh look, another 40k thread turned to cancer, what a surprise.

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Only the well known chapters win

If you 21st or 2nd founding nice knowing you

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DoW2 is the reason we are in this mess. More and more focus on hero units. That stupid mod - Last stand, which was basically a hero siege.

Its on Holla Forums what do you expect Holla Forums is what ruined /tg/ on 4chan

Halfchan /tg/ went buttmad over Holla Forums shitting on eternal crusade. It was full of 120$+ pledge goys saying how great it will be. 3 years later /tg/ was proven wrong.
Don't you dare defend those dumb cucks who went as far as to ban erotic drawfaggotry.

No, the reason you're in this mess is the overwhelming success of MOBAs. DoW2 had focus on heroes but not exclusively - the biggest element of gameplay was intelligent placement and use of individual units.

I've been reading the Lords of Mars books. They are pretty gud. Lots of HUMANITY FUCK YEA.

Dawn of war 2 came out before LoL and HoN.

The mechcanicus isant HFY


40k is like anti HFY at times

Yes, and DoW3 is coming out after LoL and HoN. DoW3 is obviously an attempt to copy MOBA playstyles.

/tg/ was ruined by the /d/ lite memes and resulted in retarded porn craving retards

They banned those. How could they be ruined by something they banned ?
And their inability to recognize kickscammer/early access and etc as cancer is painful to watch.

Easy.

/tg/ cuckolds are not welcome around these parts. Go back to your shithole and suck some more liberal dick.

As a gookclick fan I am happy every unit is spellcaster.
Also as a gookclick fan I know it won't be good or sell well. It will push out casuals because it will be hard to play and there will be shitty e-sport scene for it because it will not only free it also will have skill ceiling.
Problem SC2 had was half of that 300APM Koreans had was useless. You learned a game and got to near perfection and you had minimal improvements afterwards. In watching this bullshit for 3 years I saw maybe 4 really great micro situations, every other time it was just a-move versus a-move.
No pro will stick to will stay because it will be just a-move+skill spamming. No casual will play it because you need to be 100% focused on the game.

shit-tier bait or retarded kid, cant tell which

Fuck off if you got 40k threads then don't act like your better 8chans /tg/ is amazing

It's the same autistic shithole of weak willed cucks as halfchan /tg/. You people are an embarrassment.

Oh no you faggot.
I might have not visited Holla Forums/tg since Dungeon Meshi stopped begin translated and wait for new volumes began but it is nowhere near halfchan.

This is still Warhammer thread so my example is perfect.
In fantasy GW just created new system Age of Sigmar. They added shitty rules that made you do shit like comparing beard sizes and for 2 years they didn't bother to release point system. Bigger army you had, bigger army you could use. It was literally p2w board game.
8/tg at least knew how big cash grab it is and being familiar with the lore they at least managed to say it was shit. I tried talking about unofficial continuation of previous system on halfchan in thread about this AoS bullshit. All of these fuckers jumped on system that killed 30 years of lore just because they liked painting miniatures that are 3 times overpriced. None of these people knew what I was even talking about and said I should ask in thread about smaller games.
Not to mention AoS is bullshit to play. It last rule is to agree with opponent how you should resolve the rule. I played it 3 times and I must say this rule is abused. What is the point of having ruleset if it won't say how you should play the game properly? I mean rules for it have 3 pages. These faggot somehow had no problems with this bullshit.

Our tg might be magical realm but it is still better than faggots giving money for a system without making background check or seeing if are there any other better systems to play. Worst part is there are systems with very nice looking cheaper miniatures and consisted rules but these faggots decided to prove to GW killing off one of the oldest franchises is worth it.

They came from britbongs. As did concentration camps, regimental discipline such as whipping or hanging, exploit he heathens for the glory of the empire mindset, gangpress style of forced conscription or both civilians and foreign nationals and more.

I get that you're just shitposting but Imperial Britain should get more credit.

What are DoW1 and DoW2 like, SP wise? I remember someone saying DoW2 was a lot like syndicate so I'm pretty interested.

DoW1 is your average base building RTS, you build your bases and capture points on the map as the way to make resources, you are actively punished by staying on the defense too much.

DoW2 is somewhat similar, theres no more base building so the game moves faster, you capture points to spawn units on or gain extra resources to buy equipment and vehicles.

I can understand removing sync kills if they're trying to make it into a proper e sports game, but it should be enabled for single player at least.

People keep calling it moba-like, but I don't see it beyond the control scheme of qwe nonsense.

The animations and art direction are garbage though.

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Guardsman with pre-horus tier tech? Now that's some mary sue bullshit.

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What's the deal with games being built from the ground up to be e-sports? Like shit a game should be competitive as a result of it being fun and challenging enough to warrant competition.

They also removed random damage values, random knockback/scatter, damage sharing between models, accuracy rolls and made units drop like flies. It's clear what they're trying to do, and it's not cater to people that enjoyed the first games.


They think it's a way to success. They want the streamer audience, and those people think that Starcraft and blizzshit is the epitome of game design because gooks can only memorize numbers and hard counters. Just look at what happened to SC2.

Several reasons.

e-sports in general is a lucrative business but also a closed one, so far only a few games have managed to not only get in but stay popular (starcraft being the exception, Blizz has been putting out updates that hurt the esports community).

Several games have come out trying to be esports only and failed big time (Evolve, Blunderborn) due to how bare and boring the games are, Evolve is currently F2P and Blunderborn isnt too far away, Randy was shilling his blunderbornrule34 subreddit to try drum up support for his dying game.

I agree.

Though I will say that I think that Evolve had a better chance of becoming a e-sport if the devs weren't retarded with balancing and could actually put out patches and maps within some kind of viable time frame. Blunderborne was an abortion from the start though.

the "e sport" argument in itself is retarded because DoW 1 was part of WCG for a season.

moreover: why bother with DoW3 for esport if you already have starcraft?

oh my bad it wasn t juste one but two seasons:2005 and 2006 (DoW1 and DoW1 WA)

But the Ark Mechanicus was built by the Men of Gold, not the Mechan'ticus.

That was the time when games were played competitively, instead of the games being developed to be competitive and stream material. That's a huge difference


I think there's no need to go through all the points again. Basically, dow games are regarded as old, somewhat difficult rts games only rts players buy. Instead of at least cloning dow2 with a bigger population cap (which is what everyone has been asking for since retribution) they went for the esports starcraft audience
It wont specially appeal to rts fans, from what I've seen it has just as many units as dow2 but with retarded mechanics, horrible lore butchering and moba skills, not to mention the graphic design. It will not appeal to moba fans because it's not a moba, even for starcraft like fans it wont be buy material because it's 40k

Speaking of the populaion cap, it's really sad how they tried to hype the game on the ork trailer. On all scenes it's clear the cap is like dow2's but at the end they put a fuckton of orks for the lols and the fps start dropping like eternal crusade's sales

Speaking of Eternal Crusade, I heard it was about to go free to play. What a disaster of a game. Even Pissy Pedro is shitting on it, and he was one of the main people shilling for it early on.

Sonic is your favourite game of all time, right?
Because you have a fixation on going fast, you little sperg.

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What pre-horus tech?
Thats the macharian crusade fam, literally the greatest moment in the IG history.

I always thought that goge vandire was a weird mixup of all the corrupt popes while sebastian thor was martin luther.

Wait until you meet the void dragon.

Is your butthole still burning?

Squads make the gameplay better than your average RTS, since you can modify them in roder to counter different enemies and they are still usefull at late game.

Oy vey! It's annuda space shoah!

KYS fam tbh smh.

kys fam tbh smh

Honestly, I would have preferred a mix of DoW1 and DoW2. Base building but still that cover system.

Not yet. They had hyped up campaigns and the people numbers spiked a little bit.
Now it turns out "campaigns" are a counter for winning 10 games a week. A simple counter. Also they screwed balance again, orks got some buggy instant heavy attacks and fist weapons got nerfed again.
So yeah it will struggle a bit more before the playerbase comes to terms with reality. They find that really hard to do.

This is why you should look at any kind of MMO or MMO like project with suspicion until it comes out completely.

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To this day they keep making threads on their forum about how toxic the community has become. It's a bizzaro world over there.

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I don't get it, why does it look like shit? Why does it want to attract assfaggots players? This shit looks like a mediocre RTS, and that's it. It looks exactly like DoW1 made with play dough and probably less unit capability.
They are both autistic but only the second one is understandable. If this game fails I'll just play DoW1 with mods.

can you not read? OP gave a list of removed features such as directional cover (which is fundamental enough that obviously they've changed gameplay significantly).

NOT AT ALL !
unit move in total synch like clones (SC-like) even THE FUCKING ORKS !

you can watch the video that Arch Warhammer made. that way you will have visual and thought
there is simply so many thing to make an exhaustive post about it .

cover system is like paragon/overwatch.
you go to a xeno sctructure and after a "capture" time it magically activate and provide a bubble that absorb 100% of the damage receive from range weapons until the "cover's health" is depleted.
fuckign seriously?

also the gameplay is like a Moba exept that you can select multiple units.
animation is moba/cartoon like regarding idle and on combat. (check the orks)


best case scenario : this game should be called Dawn of starcraft 3

Nah, it's a MOBA with lip service to DoW RTS roots.

In the original DoW there wasn't directional cover, just a really half assed cover system that worked in areas, not in specific directions. That shit was only for DoW2, and it's one of the reasons is significantly different from DoW1.


Thanks, Let me watch it.


Sounds like Age of Mythology.

and to "capture" anything you do not have to commit any unit to "capture it"
just stand in the 50% opacity circle and it will be captured by itself …

just like a moba or arena shoter,t because you still wanna fight even if you are taking an objective right ?

How so? Heroes and myth units did have special abilities, but all of them were passive in use. At best you could keep an eye on their refill gauge and point them towards the enemy you want slapped once its full.

AoM's primary shortcoming was the very low population limit.

Nintendrones please fuck off, the game is great.

it's an abstract kind of capture.jpg

It was nothing special, but it had negative penalty areas and strong defense bonus areas.
This new one is just shields on very few spots in the map. Not even bunkers.

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Jesus is somebody running a Markov bot with consolewar shit from cuckchan?

I'm not a bot, and it is a fact that only nintendroned jealous at sega making good games are making these shit threads.
I will not allow them.

expliciting your bait will not make it any better.
at best people will go from "huh? wtf?" to " how can you be this retarded ?"

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Keep trying, goons.

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Well fuck, and here i thought there's hope yet for the RTS genre.

Don't worry the game will be great.
Just ignore the haters itt.

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It looks like fucking DOTA2

Don't fall for it anons.

That said, I do not have high hopes for this game.