Playing With Dolls

Sorry to hear that OP. Maybe some dubs will make you feel better.

The sexy exuse doesn't fly. A lot of dolls are sexy too. You don't have to play with fake girls in order to see sexy girls.

More like manly pride.

They might, if you actually got some. Maybe you can put the dolls down for a little bit and try a few more times to see if you get them.

I think about that way too much.
I equate videogames to the performing art of puppetry.

Say the game forces you to play with a female doll.
Would it be better or worse if it was naked or in alluring attire that a girl wouldn't have a doll conventionally be dressed in?

I'm playing Dragon's Dogma.
Because I played it after my free copy of Skyrim SE (where I played it in a way I never would aka melee with a race and sex I'd never choose) I tried to recreate my Orc female because Dragon's Dogma has a decent character creator.
Lets just say I made my pawn a ginger Loli.
I just got 2 things of Silk Lingerie from the duchesses room after many failed attempts.
I have my main character and pawn in Silk Lingerie with armor that doesn't detract from the Silk Lingerie aka unlike being simply "unequiped" where there is lots of wrappings, I can instead see their ass because Japanese game.

The question is am I playing with female dolls when I play dress up with my support character who I don't play as like a child would with a doll?

The real question is does every game have you "playing with dolls" or are some of the dolls action figures and can an action figure be female?
Is it only dolls when you play dress up?

checkmate

What's manly about wasting your life on video games? It's retarded, you're not manly for sitting on your ass, and you're not less manly for pretending. You stop being a man and turn into a faggot if you take it up the ass or dress up in women clothes. You might say virtually dressing up is the same thing but you'd be wrong as that's not really you, and if you still think that you're like those retarded people that insists on violent video games being the cause of murders. Also if you can't separate your real self from your in game character you might be literally mentally impaired.

It is no mystery why that box is in mint condition.

You are playing with dolls whenever you are playing with a female main character regardless of context. It is an action figure whenever it is a male character. Support characters do not count.

You do realize that was mostly media propaganda right? There was no sizable majority of people who thought playing a game would turn you into a killer.
However, what do you say about a game where the goal is to have anal sex with men. Is that not gay? It being able to make you gay or not isn't the question. Would you consider playing such a game, gay? The enjoyment of a faggot game doesn't make you gay?
In what way does playing with female characters that you admire not the same as playing with dolls?

The (((media))) is still pushing for it, i saw a newspaper article mentioning it the other day. And my point was "you sound as retarded as", so read again cunt. To answer your question, that wouldn't be a game, that would be a PORN game, therefore porn, and in this case gay porn, so yeah, it would be very gay.
Playing with dolls doesn't even make much sense as something to be ashamed of when you're after your teen years, or even childhood for that matter. Young girls play with dolls based on their maternal instinct, hence the connection between male doing so = gay. It changes when you're an adult, you see things differently and it can be considered a fetish at most, and even then only when it's taken to the extreme like those real life real size hyper realistic dolls.

And things become more sexual only if you want them to be, you could play a girl and forget you're playing one after some time.

Which is why you are a moron. Since I am not implying playing with dolls will make you a faggot, but that you are a faggot for playing with dolls. Get the order right.
Right, well I guess there is no point in discussing this with you. Go enjoy your dolls, faggot.

Self inserting yourself into games is like having autism. No matter how you try to rationalize it away, if you can't separate yourself from your character and consider it a different entity altogether, you're no better than fanfic writters.

Once you understand this basic concept, you stop playing videogames to prove how manly you are and you start making characters that you enjoy looking at instead. At that stage you can still make male characters to admire their physique and martial prowess or female characters for their beautifull body and amazing agility.

Denying this is denying yourself the ability to enjoy all kinds of characters in favour of living in a fantasy land where you are your character that only children believe.

Your entire point can be applied regardless of gender, if you're gonna be a faggot like that, all videogames are like playing with dolls. What's your excuse, you baby faggot?

you got hitler dubs so i have to admit that's impressive, but you're still retarded. You can't just brute force your point and say "that's it", explain, and i might agreed with you. For now you sound retarded, have the attitude of a 11yo bully, and you're basically only baiting. I meant teen years as 13 tops, that's teen but still i see your point and i can only ask you to ignore that as english is not my main langueage as you probably know already, so fuck you.

To recapitulate, you're saying "playing with dolls = being a faggot", but that is totally wrong, you're forcing the state of the object, the doll, and all the implications (being something childish, effeminate) to something else entirely based only on a similitude. That's a false equivalence. Take bronies for example, their toys are for little girls, but you wouldn't call them faggots, you'd call them obnoxious retards. They wanna fuck the ponies, not get fucked my them. It's the same here, if you're playing a female character in a game, be it for fun, profit, fashion, perversion or boredom it doesn't mean you are a faggot for doing so.

At least I'm not a faggot like you, OP

So what?

It is all a question of immersion.
Are you the thing that you control?
Are you a puppeteer or do you believe you are the puppet?
Say there is a sex game like say Honey Select.
You make the girl and dress her up how you like and instruct her to preform various erotic acts.
This includes masturbation where there is no male and or floating penis to self-insert as.
Are you then the girl or the formless puppeteer?

If you are the puppet you might have brain problems.

Great thread OP.

I am not talking about self inserting. I am talking about the psychology of a man who plays around with dolls and rationalizes that as okay. It doesn't matter what excuses you come up with, when you boil it down you are choosing to play with virtual dolls.

And when you boil it down, all fiction is just an unproductive form of lying.
You're grossly oversimplifying things, and missing entirely the point of fun things.

When I was very young I gravitated towards girls toys. Not because I was a fag but because I was sexually precocious like Prince. So yeah, OP, you nailed that one on the head.

Why don't we instead talk about the psychology of a man who plays videogames and rationalizes that as okay? Isn't that more interesting to talk about?

Or maybe let's talk about how you never really explained why playing with female characters is the same as playing with dolls, you just assumed this to be true, expected everyone else to follow with the same logic and carried on.
The same "logic" could be used to say that playing with male characters is the same as playing with G.I. Joe's or Action Mans, making you a child as well.
Or that playing any game where you control any character at all instead of abstract concepts can be argued in the same way to just be "playing with dolls". Just because your doll has a weiner, it's not less of a doll, OP.

I'm not even refuting your "point" at all because why would I? It's retarded to begin with and only works because you're only applying it to things you don't like for whatever reason.
Why don't you go play action hero with your male dolls and let the grown ups enjoy Tetris, user?