WB's THE FLASH Will Be The First Superhero Movie With No Supervillain

>>116889860Yeah, having a guy with ice powers fighting a guy with super-speed is definitely fun and doesn't make Barry look like an incompetent dumbass.

>>116889877Technically The Incredible Hulk pilot is a movie, and there's no antagonist in it

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>>116889772>>116889860This-- fuck this huge waste of potential. Even the actor playing the main character is a let down; some doped up twink who fucked his way into the role.I actually hope the rest of DC's movies in this universe bomb, they just keep making shit decision after shit decision with them.

>>116889747Ezra "gender is fluid but necks can snap" Miller is enough of a villain on his own

>>116889877I know that, it's just that OP's subject is "First movie without a SUPERvillain".

>>116889747>The First Superhero Movie With No SupervillainWho is Hancock?

>>116889747Well that was basically Flashpoint in a nutshell but I'll miss Thawne keking on Barry's fuck up.

>>116889959Well it depends what you mean by Super villain then. There have been plenty of normal men without super powers that would still be considered super villains in movies

I don't really understand the issue with using Zoom. It's a time travel story, and you can fight a paradox. People latch on to villains, performances, etc. This would be a mistake.

I'm so tired of Flashpoint

>>116889973That had a villain

>>116889747>Inb4 there is a villain but he doesn't count cause they don't have powers

>>116889973How quickly they forget.

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>>116890036Well it's either that, Watchmen, or Metal

>>116889888Geoff Johns fucking sucks

>>116889747Fuck dc and fuck that faggot Miller, they've butchered the flash

>>116889747God everything about this movie is a fucking dumpster fire

>>116890039>>116890076That wasn't a SUPERvillain.That was a generic criminal.

>>116889837That would be WB not fucking up

>>116889973I recall there was a handicapped guy with his henchmen, the original script didn't have a villain tho.Loved the movie but i wish they could have decided between "average superhero parody" and "Highlander with capes".

>>116890124Read the thread, The Flash movie won't have physical villains at all, just natural disasters and shit.

>>116890124>>116890008>The Dark Knight doesn't have a supervillain, just a generic terrorist with unlimited money.

>>116890145>the original script didn't have a villain tho.Hancock was the villain in the original script, he rapes the girl and slaughters an entire police squad.

>>116890100I mean just because Flashpoint keeps getting co-opted by executives doesn’t mean it’s on Johns.

>>116890178Oh yeah, right.

>>116890187It's literately him pushing it

>>116890278No it isn’t, the guy just wrote the fucking story, it’s not him who keeps pushing it to being adapted. He’s not involved in any way with The Flash movie

>>116889747Bros, is the DCEU dead?

>>116890433>is

>>116889747Bros, is the DCEU alive?

>>116890433The Snyderverse yeah, but the Shazamverse Aquamanverse and WWverse are all pretty lively

>>116890463>is

>>116889772>>116889886>>116889955>>116890118>>116890123fake news

>>116889923>some doped up twink who fucked his way into the role.You're saying I have a chance?

>>116889747This will fail for two reasons, the writers who worked on DC movies so far can't come with a non-hackey way for their characters to act as it is, forcing an introspection out of the lead will fall of its face, and people like a villian, villians are memorable, they create an impact and we'll written ones are useful long term

>>116890521It’s not though, the guy can’t even film a small scene without being high as a fucking kite. Also he totally chokeslammed that drunk girl

>>116889837>>116889888I'd do so many depraved things to get a Grant Morrison Flash movie, it'd be a dream come true.

>>116890569I mean both Aquaman and Shazam had memorable bad guys, so it not strictly a DC problem

>>116890538Idk, are you as fuckable as Ezra?

>>116890577That video was an obvious set-up, if he had really violently "choked' some girl with enough force to harm he would have been arrested Watching it you can see how weaksauce it looks

>>116890635He still slammed her into that metal object than took her to the ground. And it definitely was not a set up

>>116890635>That video was an obvious set-upThis is your mind obsessed with conspiracy-theories.

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>>116890685>>116890706Watch the video again because there's no real damaging force behind any of his movements, it looks demonstrative/performative. His hand actually comes out to cushion her head as he lowers her to the ground.If her body had hit the ground hard and his hand actually squeezed her neck, she'd be injured and they would have called her an ambulance or something but there was nothing. Also other than the video itself, the fact that they blatantly lied about several details when they posted that short clip makes me suspicious. There was no cops called, he wasn't arrested, there was no investigation. Manufactured drama on the part of the people who posted it because they wanted some fame or to cancel a celebrity. If it was real they would have fired him

>>116890137Morrison's script sucked.

the fuck is this shit?

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>>116890829Ray Fisher is sperging about Geoff Johns on twitter again.

>>116890793He literally grabbed her by the scruff of the neck slammed her into that metal bit and than pulled her to the ground still holding her by the scruff of the neck. Like yeah she shouldn’t have pestered him but he should not have even payed a finger on her. I know you want to believe this creepy ass Twink is pure and can do nothing wrong but he did

>>116890829Another Jussie Smolleth situation.

>>116890611You think Ezra is fuckable? Ew.

>>116890829Ray Fisher thinks Whedon was abusive when they were filming Justice League even though no other actor or worker on the set has corroborated his claims. The guy is just trying to get back in good with Snyder and pull a smollett

>>116890470Nigga they are all apart of the same storyline started by ZS. Its nit separated

>>116890881>scruff of the neckSo you admit it wasn't a choke then? Because watching the video you can see his hand isn't around her neck, it's near her shoulder and that's what he's gripping as he brings her to the groundShe literally asked the dude for a playfight and that's what they had, not sure how you can't see this>I know you want to believe this creepy ass Twink is pure and can do nothing wrong but he didThe only horse in this race I have is being against fake news shit and bullshit Twitter "cancellations"

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>>116889772This

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>>116890964Except ppl did.

>>116890965They are only tangently connected, with sparse references to the larger universe. They could easily reboot the larger universe and they would still fit

is fandomwire.com a credible trade or rumor source?

>>116890983The only other person who did was a photographer who is also chummy with Snyder, and his claim was disproven.

thats even worse then the cloud in green lantern

>>116890972The scruff of the neck can still hurt and if enough pressure is put on you there it will still constrict your breathing. So while not exactly the neck he still could do some damage to that woman

>>116890987Except both Jenkins and Wan brought Synder in to make sure its in line with what he built up.

>>116891011WW's stuntwoman spoke up. And no claim was disproven.

>>116890983Literally was one other person who’s also trying to get on Snyder’s good side

>>11689100150/50. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't.I can kinda' believe the Flash movie won't have any overt villains like Thawne or Snart, but I doubt we won't at the very least get Black Flash, who has long been rumored for the movie and would make sense if the Speed Force itself has an antagonistic role.

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>>116891037>Wonder Woman promptly retcons BvS

>>116890802We don't know that

>>116891060She said she had to do the scene since Gadot wouldn't, which sucks but is hardly abusive, and never corroborated his claim that Whedon locked her in a trailer and threatened to ruin her career if she didn't do it.

>>116891061Her only complaint was the weird flash on top of WW scene which yeah wasn’t great but it’s hardly abusive

>>116890916he has a fuckable body but meh face, I think he's hot

>>116891096You need better standards dude

>>116891037That's an exaggeration. Wan showed Snyder the concept art for the new costumes and an early cut of Aquaman, but he didn't outright seek Snyder's guidance or something.

>>116890916He's definitely fuckable, given that's how he's gotten thus far lol. It's not my opinion, it's just a fact at this point.

>>116889747No villain no point in seeing it

>>116891086>>116891094you're talking about a rumor spread by Grace Randolph, no stuntwoman has come out and said anything about it

>>116891118>Wan showed Snyder the concept art for the new costumes and an early cut of Aquaman, but he didn't outright seek Snyder's guidance or something.He should have. His Aquaman was bad.BAD!Nereus shouldn't be Mera's father and Atlanna should be dead

>>116891115Marvelfags drool over the twink from Spiderman and OP's fag mogs him facially and better ass

How do you think they'll anthropomorphize the speed force after test screenings fail to "get" the movie because it doesn't follow the normal flow of a superhero movie?

>>116891096I reiterate: ew. He's wholly revolting in every way.>>116891122Yeah, but... ew. Bandersnatch Cummerbund is also ew. I don't understand people finding ew attractive these days. Just... ew.

>>116891152Aquaman was fantastic Though

>>116891086>>116891094the only stunt actors that have said anything about Whedon are from Buffy

>>116889747>No supervillianGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

>>116891152So you think Wan's Aquaman is bad, but not Snyder's? Why, if he's even further away from the source material?

>>116891151Gadot's stuntwoman confirmed long before the allegations against Whedon that she did the "Flash lands on Wonder Woman" scene since Gadot refused.Recently a photographer claimed Whedon locked her in his office and loudly threatened to destroy her career if she refused to do the scene. That, she never commented on, and is most likely bullshit.

>>116891265Clay Enos didn't claim that

>>116891265I wish he had destroyed her career

>>116891292It was some other guy.

>>116890916>>116891115>>116891172 he's cuteI'd fuck him

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>>116889747Absolutely not, a story in general has to have some sort of conflict and a villain is perfect. Without one there's no tension or opposing force, yes you can keep his speed a major threat for its misusage but that alone can't make it the primary threat of the story. The only super hero story I could think of that can work without a villain is the hulk.

>>116891265>Recently a photographer claimed Whedon locked her in his office and loudly threatened to destroy her career if she refused to do the scene.Is that entirely this tweet? twitter.com/Jason24cf/status/1278406391661821952

>>116889860>have one of the best rogue's gallery of any hero they have and use none of themFlash isn't Batman or Spiderman, no one remembers anyone besides evil Flash and cold gun dude.

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>>116891410Ou, you forgot about this Motherfucker

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>>116891509You are right, people only remember evil Flash, cold gun dude, and Captain Boomerang because he is the most interesting one.

>>116891455Clickbaity hyperbole.

or at the very least let him suck me off

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>>116891369If by cute, you mean 'thoroughly vomitous' then yes. He's very, very cute.

>>116891575low T

>>116889747Yeah fuck you all

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>>116891369He looks like he smells of unwashed ass and penis. He's like if the religious right willed a gay golem into existence.

>>116891609>He looks like he smells of unwashed ass and penisHOT

>>116891540Also Mirror Master Trickster and Weather Wizard are high Profile ones as well, I will say Heatwave, Golden Glider, And the Top are not

>>116891170See >>116891065

>>116891629No one knows who Weather Wizard or Trickster is. Mirror Master is a might.

>>116891609I can vouch that he doesn’t smell great, met him at a con once, his hands were also extremely clammy

>>116891385this guy didn't even work in JL lol, he just spread a rumor

>>116891647Trickster has been in nearly every media adaption of the Flash and Weather Wizard is definitely a well known character

>>116891597Me? Yes.

>>116891653What con? Post proof or gtfo

>>116891647I do and I'm not even a comics guy.

>>116891706Wizard World Philly

>>116891693>>116891693Weather Wizard might be slightly more known then Trickster, more prominent. In the Flash tv show.>>116891720I not a Flash guy but I know them but normal folks don't.

>>116891540>>116891509>>116891410If you have 3 villains people care about you're beating out most superheroes. Even the really popular ones. I bet if you asked most people the name of the villain from Iron Man 2 they couldn't answer.

>>116891853Ironman has a shit rogue gallery, he literally has Mandarin and Crimson Dynamo and I doubt anyone even remembers his actual name and not Russian red robot dude. Superman and Wonderwoman have shitty rogue galleries too. Superman has Lex, Zod, and Darkseid while WW has cat chick and giant chick. Daredevil has Kingpin and Colin Farrell. F4 has Doctor Meme and no one else if he asked someone off the street.

>>116891771

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>>116889747These people are such fucking clowns, how do they still not get it after all these mistakes, while learning nothing from their successes?Everyone hates their overly complicated high concept movies but loves their straightforward ones.

>>116892002I seriously doubt anyone even remembers his name when he appears in shit. Zod's two goons have names but I bet no one even knows them despite them appearing every time Zod does.

>>116891741Talked to an user on /fit/ who worked on the upcoming Stephen King adaptation with him who said he smelled fine and was pretty in person, so it was probably just sweaty working a con for those long hours I'd still fuck him

>>116892046>despite them appearing every time Zod does.It's a different woman each time. In the animated series it wasn't even Zod and Faora is not Ursa

>>116892046Well For Zod Non is the only constant his female right hand always changes

>>116892079Maybe, also he had an entire crew with him that were all black guys

>>116892126He does look like he gets fucked by black guys.

>Has a diverse cast of colorful foes >"We're not using any of them"Fucking what?

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>>116889747So how many rewrites are we on now?Would you say 10 million?

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Wonder Woman should have been the one without a villain

>>116889747>sounds about as shitty as I expected

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>>116889747I distinctly recall no supervillains in Steel

>>116892396Steel doesn't have a rogues gallery though, so what's your point?

The speed force doesn't work like that...

>>116892396What about Bender?

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>Shazam out of all the DC movies is without a doubt far and away the best film>they will make Black Adam a good guy anti-hero instead of a villain

>>116892670He’s been portrayed as an anti-hero/ villain for years now though

>>116892701But in Shazam the dude fucking killed everyone as seen in the hologram thing.

>>116892670Black Adam has been portrayed as an anti-villain. Now he'll be anti-hero.

>>116892810They’re still doing that though, he’s still going to cause that massacre

>>116891075What part did it recton outside her "hiding"

>>116892701>>116893038How do you 100% genocide a country and not be firmly in the irredeemably evil category

>>116893091Comics my dude

Can we talk about everything wrong with Barry in Justice League

>>116893137His gay swivel hips run for starts

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>>116893091Idk man, all I know is that they are essentially adapting JSA: Black Reign

>>116889772FPBP

>>116893137His spaz personality that acts nothing like Barry

>>116889747Interesting concept though I don’t know how it will be executed.

>>116893169Yeah that's definitely one thing. They had him in a harness and running on a green screen treadmill. Funny how Ben and Henry have personal trainers to get jacked, yet no one can take 15 mins to teach Ezra how to run properly. What I was also thinking is Barry's character arc, or lack thereof. That "oh I've only pushed people and run away" scared bullshit is the exact opposite of what his Act 1 characterization should be. You would think Barry would be cocky, inflated confidence in himself because he's only taken down piss slow thugs only to have a rude awakening after a Parademon blast actually hits him. You know, a fear to overcome and a reminder to keep pushing himself? An actual character arc?

>>116893254Thing is though, that contraption was assembled from the beginning so Snyder looked at that footage of him running and said "this looks fine"If even the green screen footage before CGI backgrounds looks dumb you know there's a problem

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Just abort the thing,I don't wanna see this abomination come to screen please don't get out of development hell.

>>116893344 it's not in development hell though, this is happening

>Reverse Flash>Captain Boomerang>Captain Cold>The Rogues>The Trickster>Mirror Master>"What if we didn't use a villain at all?!"What did we do to deserve such fuckery? A story to work needs at least an antagonist (which it's not the same as a villain). An antagonist work is to put obstacles into the protagonist road to get his character arc done. Without an antagonist, there is no conflict, and without conflict, there is no fucking story, this is script-writing 101 FOR FUCK SAKE

>>116893504OP's article is not confirmed

>>116893525You hope this shit right there is debunked. You don't want to see a Flash movie with him fighting a fucking tornado or another natural disaster.

>>116889747Sounds like ass.

>>116891152>first DCEU movie to make a billion

>>116893504An antagonist doesn't have to be a person.

>>116891410Because he doesn't have a movie yet

>>116889747>"the villain was the friends we made along the way"

>>116891509People only remember him because of the suicide squad

>>116893588I'm a little confused about the article at all since this seemed like the most recent credible leaks talk about villain casting

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>>116892810>>116893042>>116893091They're going to have it that he was corrupted by the seven deadly sins

>>116894357If this turns out the be fake then idk how the fuck he guessed that Noah Centineo was going to play Atom Smasher

>>116893091I dunno man. Namor gets away with it every few years

>>116891410That's already better than most heroes. Tell me if any normie would have been able to guess 2 significant villains(before the movies of course) for the likes of Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Cyborg, Dr. Strange, Ant-man?

>>116894616>Iron ManNope and they still wouldn't be able to because Iron Man's rogue gallery is extremely shitty.>ThorHe has Loki and the rest of his rogue gallery is extremely shitty even if I like Enchantress and Executor.>Captain AmericaLove Cap but his rogue gallery is shit, it consists of a bunch of dudes who can roundhouse kick really good or talk really good.Red Skull and Zemo are the best of the bunch.>Wonder WomanPossibly the most shitty rogue gallery ever that currently exists which is a shame because Wonder Woman is one of the most popular character ever.>Green LanternDifferent colored Lantern dudes and that colored lantern chick who he refuses to fuck for some gay ass reason.>Captain MarvelPure nothing, does Captain Marvel even have a rogue gallery besides the Skrull and Kree?>Black PantherHoly fuck Marvel is best at rogue galleries or did they blow their entire load on Spider Man?>CyborgHe has a rogue gallery?>Dr. StrangeAnother wizard, anyone could guess this.>Ant-manI know more of Ant-man's different names than his actual rogue gallery.

They'll probably use Black Flash. He's already a manifestation of the Speed Force and could easily be after Barry for fucking with the timeline. He looks cool, requires little to no characterization, can provide the speedster fights the audience wants, and still fits the bill of being a force of nature with no real evil motivation.

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>>116893169Has anyone made a music video with this on a loop and "Stayin' Alive" by Bee Gees playing in the background?

>>116891033He didn't do any damage, you just want him cancelled cause you don't like that he's LGBT

>>116895182No, but that's a great ideaPersonally when I watch that .GIF I usually also play this in my head: youtu.be/pDkw_JolOgI?t=32

>>116891575>>116891609I'm sure you guys are real good looking lads to make statements like that. [Spoiler] lol yeah fucking right you neckbeard fat fucks [/spoiler]

Idk why everyone blames Ezra Miller for how The Flash acts in Justice League, he's literally an actor being told what to do and what to say. A different actor wouldn't make a difference

>>116895235they're just coping hard AnonEzra is handsome, that's just facts.

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>>116895277He looks so fucking gay like how can a person have such a faggy face? I’m not being nasty it’s just very evident in his face

>>116895247Stop being rational user

>>116895339Some faces just be gayBeautiful face, but gay face, I'll admit that

What pisses me off most is the fact that this asswipe doesn't understand his character and doesnt care about his role

>>116895277He looks retarded

>>116895512>and doesnt care about his roleMost actors don't

>>116895562he forgot to eat something other than cum and ass growing up so didn't get enough nutrients

>>116895202Bottom line is there is no excuse to put his hands on a woman. It's wrong and not to mention weak shit. There isn't a way you can twist it where he isn't in the wrong no matter how hard you may try

>>116895339official definitions for gayface:>"A man, usually homosexual, with a distinctly effete facial structure with some very specific features; a strong jawline [sic] that lacks prominence, space between the eyes that recall people with down syndrome [sic], and a sloping, long forehead.">"Gay men do not differ from straight men in the size and shape of any facial feature. Rather, the use of certain expressions can become ingrained in the musculature of the face over time. Since effeminate gay men utilize similar facial expressions as women, they develop female aging and muscle contraction patterns in their face. For example, gay face includes tightness around the mouth from pursing the lips, a facial expression common to gay men and women—but not to heterosexual men. Also, gay men are more emotionally expressive, leading to a general 'tightness' and muscular activation throughout the entire face. Gay face includes an eye expression that is both surprised-looking and predatory. Eyebrows are usually arched higher than that of straight men, and eyebrow hair is manicured. There is often a slightly tan and/or leathery look to the skin, especially among older gay men.>distinctly effete facial structure with some very specific features; a strong jawline [sic] that lacks prominence, space between the eyes that recall people with down syndrome [sic], and a sloping, long forehead; eye expression that is both surprised-looking and predatory. Eyebrows are usually arched higher than that of straight men, and eyebrow hair is manicured.laughing at how well that all describes Miller

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>>116894917Oh, get fucked. Comics Malekith is great. It's a shame MCU done him so dirty.

>>116895512How can you say he doesn't care about his role when he talks about it like this?youtu.be/VxD7cqDrlGcAlso that he got so involved in the script and did one with Morrison tells me he does care. I'm not factoring in what Barry was like in Whedon's JL because none of that was his choice. I do think he's miscast, but to say he doesn't care is silly. He almost cares too much, it would have been a not bad move to walk away years ago and pursue some other role(s), since it's not like he wouldn't be able to land other stuff easily.

>>116895641lmaothat is spot-on

>>116889747The rogues would fantastic on screen. Imagine an ocean’s style heist team but instead of the explosives guy, the acrobat, the driver, the face it’s the cold guy, mirror guy, illusion guy, distraction guy etc. hell have flash as the antagonist as you follow from the perspective of the rogues getting shut down one by one as they attempt as massive heist. You could even make flash scary in such a scenario.

>>116891573Ezra Miller? Yo more like Ezra Fill-her, cause ain't no way I'm pulling outta that bitch yo

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>ywn be Jason Momosa pounding a jailbait Ezra every night while his mutt stepdaughter slept in the next room

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>>116895655Thor's rogue gallery is trash, I think the height of his shitty rogue gallery perked at Gorr, nothing can get as bad and try hardy as that.

>>116896074Oh man, you just don't know the faggot from J.J. Abrams shitty book, don't you?>inb4 not canonStill doesn't get any more tryhard than that. Shit, if name Cadaverous doesn't sound like the most hilarious attempt at being edgy, I don't know what to tell you.

>>116895984He should go blonde again.

>>116896126Difference is that Cadaverous will never, ever be canon or even appear again while Gorr will always be a shitty, try hardy piece of shit. Kindred is looking like that same garbage too but at least Spider Man has a great rogue gallery even with all the filth in it.

>>116896213Carnage is canon and he's one of the cringiest characters I've ever seen. Where's your God now?

>>116889747Does anyone have an count of the amount of times Barry fucked with the flow of time?

>>116895757Making Flash scary is just what Reverse Flash and Zoom are for.

I wouldn't be opposed to this. As long as Barry doesn't speak to the Speed Force, and it's a constant threat from start to finish, then it might be watchable.

>>116889747It's because the flash is the real villain. He unironically works better as a villain

>>116896200mite b coolHonestly any color would work but he has to keep his hair long, I hate it when he's buzzed it short in the past.

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theoretically speaking, how many dudes could Barry suck off in one attosecond you think?

>>116897045are we using comic book logic or real world logic?

>>116889747so it's a Neil Breen film.

>>116897064Either is goodI was also thinking that if he swallowed each time, would his stomach ever get full or swollen with cum or would his metabolism cause the spunk to move through him at a pace that stays ahead of each new load he gulps down I guess that depends on just how many cocks he’d be chugging in that length of time

>>116896830Venom and Carnage were the cringiest characters to ever exist and then Gorr the "God Butcher" came and said hold my ale. Don't worry because Kindred is trying to do it too with his "spooky, spooky boo Spider-Man" shit. Oh wait, the Batman who Laughs exists as well.