What went wrong DCBros?How do you think bendis feels about jumping on a sinking ship...

>>116884520It's dead, Jim.

Say what you will about the man, but he was one of the only professional voices speaking the truth

Attached: E3DA38AA-A275-4707-B09A-594262AA8AF3.jpg (828x518, 147.84K)

Attached: 97208DA6-E71A-4954-A870-3F7F21492498.jpg (828x616, 221.07K)

Attached: 861AA261-0C90-432E-9174-210570A83F61.jpg (828x679, 234.88K)

Attached: FAE84267-8769-4DA7-A07A-6B3D7339D1C0.jpg (828x391, 184.1K)

Attached: C4CDD4A3-DC52-4273-B881-FFC447C43EE1.jpg (828x1099, 457.65K)

Attached: 8B4F3A1E-851E-4E93-85B2-5CB40B8BF085.jpg (828x1188, 496.15K)

Attached: 28C3694B-EF14-4B13-B376-E2FEE3A7BB6D.jpg (828x470, 165.4K)

>>116882831There are more good DC titles than Marve titles atm.

Attached: 1597200064166.jpg (720x960, 203.65K)

>>116885229>>116885256>>116885278>>116885293>>116885319>>116885346>>116885374Imagine being in such dire straits fucking Rob Liefield comes otu swinging and lands every blown.

>>116885229>>116885256>>116885278>>116885293>>116885319>>116885319>>116885346>>116885374dude couldn't even keep his rights to his characters and accidentally sold them to an insane person. He is the LAST person to have a qualified take in this mess lmao. You are a fucking brainlet.

>>116882831>There are a lot of books I was anticipating.Such as....

>>116882831>What went wrong DCBros?It's a mystery, wrapped inside an enigma.

Attached: fat, ugly wonder woman, dying sjw dc.jpg (600x922, 69.96K)

>>116885229>Jim Lee keeps falling upwards>this hack is stuck with a SJW publisherkek

>>116885454You're a brainlet for writing him off. He's a bombastic maniac who has absolutely fumbled many aspects of his own work, but he's also very often an astute observer of the business with an incredible early career.

>>116884119>Gold Lanterns whose powers work on Happiness. FuckI'm sorry but I fail to see how this is anymore silly than a pink lantern powered by love or a red lantern powered by rage. It's all stupid.

>>116885604No see, he made those other ones, and didnt make this new one, so it's obviously much worse.

>>116882831Who's all the top DC talent now?

>>116882831Oh no! they actually fired the people behind Batman Penis and Zoe Quinn! DC Done!

>>116885604Sure, the rainbow lanterns are a silly idea, but comics were founded on silly ideas. There exists a threshold for these types of things. A vague limit to the suspension of disbelief. The spectrum of light, ROYGBIV, as flawed as it may be, worked for the narrative needed to be told for the story. But within that narrative, Geoff Johns created a set of parameters and he adhered to them. And those parameters worked fine ever since. Until Snyder and Bendis, of course.The ultraviolet spectrum was too much. Gold lanterns don't fucking fit anywhere in there. Hacking a green lantern battery doesn't fit anywhere in the lore either, which is why Bendis was forced to change it. Your tolerance for silly stories may be low, but what Sndyer and Bendis have done is break lore completely in order to tell their dumb stories.

>>116884119>Bendis killed DC

Attached: download (6).jpg (241x209, 7.62K)

>>116885767The Johns spectrum was fucking stupid too. In what universe is "greed" an emotion? Shit, going thru the list, the only ones that are clearly emotions are Rage, Love, and Fear. At least Happiness is a real emotion. That said the idea that emotions are colorful and just floating around the universe waiting to manifest into magical beams is really fucking lame in itself so it's a lost concept to start with.

Marvel and DC are both terrible. But Marvel fans are more supportive of Marvel than DC fans are. The problem lies in the comic book fans and the comic book store owners. they do not want comics to expand to a wider audiences. They want to retain control of the comic book industry in their own little selective corner.Also other people just do not see comics as a cool thing to do.

>>116885106Very true

Comics should focus on GN and mini series

>>116885871Marvel just lucked out and struck gold with their movies while WB made the worst choices possible and used Batman as a crutch for decades. New 52 fucked over longtime comic fans, Rebirth gave them hope only for King to shit on it. All they had to do was listen to the fans.

>>116885812>>Bendis killed DC>Tom King and Brian BendisWB decided to save Damian Wayne.Many people in DC Comics is fired.WB hates kings child abuser batman Damian's popular, and WB prefers him, the Bat editorial will be completely changed in favor of someone from the WB, then there is an even greater chance that everything that happened to him over the past couple of years will be canceled.Spoliers form reddit

hahahahha

>>116886215Superman Comics getting shutdown would be a blessing for all, since superman comics really suck these days..>I am also told that all exclusive creator contracts, that cover the likes of Scott Snyder, Dan Abnett, Tom King and Brian Bendis, are being reviewed.Hell yeah!!!Fuck Bendis!Fuck Snyder!Fuck King!

>>116882831>What went wrongMore than two decades of absolutely garbage comics.

>>116885767THIS FUCKING THIS!!!!

>>116885767>Your tolerance for silly stories may be low, but what Sndyer and Bendis have done is break lore completely in order to tell their dumb stories.They are know to do this. They always do this.Why do they keep hiring them? Snyder is making some cash, but Bendis has been on the downlow for years.

>>116885812DC was rotten way before Bendis moved in.But the fact that they hired him as a "star writer" when he was way past his prime (assuming he ever had one to begin with) just proves how much of a retarded company they are.

>>116885461Tom King's upcoming work Rorsach and him finishing off Strange Adventures. More of the Vertigo characters like Sandman and Lucifer. Doc Shaner has upcoming books too.The Black Label stuff is interesting

Attached: EU8__j0U8AALjH.jpg (1440x1800, 396.71K)

>>116885871>The problem lies in the comic book fansWhen in doubt attack your customers. It's the SJW way.

>>116885106Is it because reading is hard and watching a cartoon is easier to process?

>>116882831Too much -ism.

>>116884321Mangoes aren't sold in LCS and aren't distributed by Diamond.

>>116884119am i the only one kind of baffled this was posted on kiwifarms of all places

>>116882831Have Superman, Batman and the other stock DC heroes reached a point where they and their support characters simply can't carry yet another idea or "take" from yet another writer/artist? How many versions of Batman through the lens of every fucking hot topic of every year do we really need? How many deconstructions, reboots and analysis of the same character do we need? Same for Superman, Flash, Green Lantern and whatnot. "Oh hey! It's %HERO%, but this time he's black/white/a woman/a teenager/gay/lesbian/trans/adapted for %TIME PERIOD%/a psychopath/etc."

>>116885454He was a better editor than anyone at DC, he got Moore to work for him

>>116885767Well said user.

>>116882831>How do you think bendis feels about jumping on a sinking ship?The fucking elephant that jumped on a sinking lifeboat? I don't think he's smart enough to give it thought.

>>116886763EVS likes to go there to recruit for comicsgate and shittalk feminist lolcows.

>>116884119>vaguely aware of Bendis shitting everything up left right and center>"Gold Lanterns" slipped by me>look it up>surprise, it's a black dudeI don't understand how Bendis every fooled anyone into thinking he was creative.

>>116882831So who got laid off in the DC Universe? I guess Flash would be the fastest at the job center and Cyborg seems high maintenance.

>>116884204don't most writers and artists typically need to have some success before they get to work on Spider-Man or Batman?

>>116885767Spot on.

Attached: hw8402.gif (357x296, 1.82M)

>>116885869Could have done a Seven Sins motif but Wrath, in the form of Rage, is already used for the Red Lanterns anyway.

>>116884119500k? Jesus fuck.

>>116884119Tbh this is already what I suspect happened, so something along that lines is not that weird for me to believe. >>116886654Yes, you can put on TV shows in the background while you're doing other things. Movies are easier to consume, lots of people consume them. Like DC movies/cartoons don't have a ton of crossover appeal with the comics either. If you go in and think oh hey Batman, WW or whoever is cool in this medium and you really like Ben Affleck or something, then you go read like King's Batman which is just like this horrible soap opera about Tom King being sad and dressed as Batman, it's just not worth the time and money. At least with manga, it's very easy to get into and there is crossover appeal with the anime or vidya too.

>>116882831AT&T is in deep need of cutting costs and nothing they own is more of an obvious waste of money than the people currently making the modern floppies.

>>116884119>blah blah blah tin foil hatI'm not reading that shit nigger

How is Marvel doing well enough to stay afloat?

>>116885439>>116885454>BASED CHADFELD DABBED ON DC KEKS BASED BASEDYou sound like a faggot lmao

>>116885488This is a cool variant. People really lost their shit over this?

>>116887817Disney isn't in as much debt as AT&T. Perlmutter is also a cheap jew so costs are kept relatively in control.

>>116887817is not about marvel or dc, is about disney and at&t, and at&t is like 200 billions in debt

>>116882831You're delusional if you think Marvel won't see a similar shakeup.

>>116887891One can only hope.

>>116885229>>116885256>>116885278>>116885293>>116885319>>116885346>>116885374Why is this guy seething so hard, was he fired from DC or something?

>>116887937Given who that guy is, if you can't find info about that yourself then you're a failure as a human.

>>116887937Nothing he said is wrong DCfag. Some of what Liefeld said is also true for Marvel.

BUT DOOMSDAY CLOCK WAS FUCKING GOOD GOD DAMN IT!!!

>>116887817They're overshipping books through Diamond and counting every book in the shipment as a sale. Basically passing the buck to brick-and-mortar shops.

>>116884321Mangas had digital sales, you could buy them from amazon and libraries. Comics mainly can only be buyed in LCS.

>>116886427some good news

>>116887817Disney was doing better than ATT (at least they were before)

>>116882831Does this mean that the Eddie Berganza guy, the guy who hits on his coworker's girlfriends right in front of them, has been fired from DC Comics?

>>116887891But Marvel has their movies that rake in billions.

>>116886639It is partly true. Look at what kind of trash people are buying. Like Snyders Metal-thing.Then again, the customer can't be blamed for them recruiting Bandis.

So why is Snyder in trouble? Isn’t his stuff selling? his Batman still does. The rest I can understand like King or Bendis.

>>116888616so far we know that they're reviewing all the exclusive contracts, we don't know any specifics about who's in trouble and who's safe

>>116886064>New 52 fucked over longtime comic fansRuined DC, it was already bad but this was Heroes Reborn tier of bad.

>>116888616Because even the execs at AT&T probably realized they don’t need some high profile writer getting paid when Batman sells itself

One thing that always baffles me when I read cape comics is that they actually pay a person money to write that trash. It isn't just that you most of the time feel like "any schmuck could have written this and made a better story." Sometimes I have a hard time imagining how an "any schmuck" could even come close to something as bad. I feel bad for the artist who have to draw most of the shit. Imagine being an artist for Snyder or King when he gets all "poetic". And those guys count as the top writers by the industry.

>>116888799Comics industry should be more like manga and the artists also being the writer, most of the stories are already awful, there is no need to pay for a writer.

>>116888799That’s why comics suck and people don’t want to read them. It reads like shit most of the time, feels tedious. Legit you probably feel like you can do this too and make it actually entertaining. if the art is not great, suddenly I find myself zoning out because the writing is usually just not carrying it.

>>116888849>>116888893Exactly. If the writers were paid what they were worth then it would correspond with the marginal change in number of comics sold.My bet is that most writers make no difference at all, it is all about the character and somewhat about the artist. For example: how much did the sales of Superman increase thanks to Bendis?The somewhat sad part is that writers like Snyder, and to some extent Johns, are selling really well, and that is the readers fault. Snyder and Johns is actually doing a good job. Whatever it is that the readers like about there writing.

>>116888799Talent drought. Marvel and DC own anything created under them, so actually good writers and artists wanting to make a living would prefer to do so under a higher paying company or go indie.

>>116889169But the talent drought strike very unevenly between writers and artists. Artist are way above the average person, while the writers are almost below the average person.

DC and Marvel comics were doomed to fail eventually because they keep relying on old ass characters from 60/70 years ago. Over and over and over again ad nauseum. Nothing new, nothing kids today will call their own. Thats why people are moving to reading manga instead. Manga is full of new, creative, inventive stuff. Comics are the same stale, recycled heroes that people only care about in movies. You got a problem when My Hero Academia, an X-Men ripoff, is selling like hotcakes in America when the X-Men themselves sell 1000 copies.It is over. Capeshit comics are finished. This is the end of their decades-long run by inertia. Their business model was never sustainable.

>>116889516Ok NPC

>>116886064>Rebirth gave them hope only for King to shit on itAnd DilDio. Never forget DilDio.>>116888578MCU company =/= Marvel Comics.

>>116889542Reality doesnt care about your feelings, user.

>>116889516Going to be nice to see new stuff.

>>116884119Based Uncle E. Fuck the industry, they got what they deserve.

>>116884186Probably about right. EVS was being paid like $250K when he was working at DC, and he was running basically one book. They gave Bendis an entire line and he's destroyed everything he's touched.

>>116889516This.They lack any trace of creativity and vitality. MHA is a good comparison because that is a franchise that wants to have readers and try hard. Compare that to X-men, that is treated like trash with writers who don't care at all. Sure they seems to try to do something now with Hickman. But that is just a good writer writing for the old guard. For the nerds that know everything about X-men. It is a Moore-esque new take or deconstruction that are interesting for those that already are fans. It is probably very clever, but kids don't care about clever they want an engaging story. Expecially if they are charged 4 dollars for 20 pages. Which is insane even if cape comics had been good.

>>116890013>But that is just a good writer writing for the old guard. For the nerds that know everything about X-men. ...interesting for those that already are fans.[Citation Needed]

>>116890142Yeah, I know a lot of fans are annoyed. My point is more that it demand some prior knowledge and interest in the characters. Then the problem with the fans of course is that they are very rigid in their idea of how a character should act. Which is another reason for capes becoming so stale and another argument for creating something new and interesting.

>>116889516Manga doesn't have that much creative and inventive stuff anymore. It is just that capeshit has done literally nothing creative or inventive in decades now and has restricted what it can do even more than when the comics code was still being enforced.

>>116890264You can always create something "new and interesting" with new characters, somehow a lot of that finds its niche.I mean, there's a "The Boys" tv show that seems to have a fanbase now.

>>116890264Also>capes becoming so staleis the last problem that could come to mind, between the 2000s full edgetardness and the 2010s cuckery and all the "deconstructions" in between. "Stale" would be an IMPROVEMENT.

>>116882831Bros, is DC Comics dead?

>>116890289>It is just that capeshit has done literally nothing creative or inventive in decades now and has restricted what it can do even more than when the comics code was still being enforced.And it will continue to do nothing creative as long as they keep rehashing the same characters that have been dissected for half a century.DC and Marvel are doomed because they dont want to let go of their well-known characters. They will milk them until there is nothing but bones, which seems to be now.What manga does right is that a series will always have one writer. It will always have the same consistency. Most manga have an actual ending to the story, unlike comics which keeps the story going until its eventually soft rebooted or cancelled. There is no reason to invest in comics when its a total mess like this.>Manga doesn't have that much creative and inventive stuff anymore.Is that why manga is more popular than ever before in America while comics is pretty much dead now?

>>116882831>How do you think bendis feels about jumping on a sinking ship?Bendis jumped to DC not for comics but to get into showrunning like Cereal Lord did since Kevin Feigie dissolved the 'story group'.

>>116885454Yer not wrong..but even retards can learn from mistakes.

>>116882831I hope AT&T sells DC to Scorcese

Attached: 1596853554139.jpg (980x588, 346.08K)

>>116888849The big name artists of the 90s tried this out and it turns out the stuff they made was even worse. Most cape comics need writers.

>>116888544Have you been living under a rock

>>116891241How come manga can have some really good writing (Death Note, The Promised Neverland for example) by the artist but comics can't?

>>116891316Uh? Death note had a dedicated writer.

>>116891057>Is that why manga is more popular than ever before in America while comics is pretty much dead now?Relativism. Americans rarely get anything outside a remake or a new "origin of X" so anime seems new to them.

>>116891400You are correct. I stand corrected. But at least the writers usually stick around until the end of the run for the series. The series isnt just passed around from writer to writer like a cheap whore as comics tend to do.

>>116891688There are plenty of creator-owned comics with endings that hardly anyone reads.

>>116886215>>116886427>>116888445I know this board is autistic but these posts hit a new high.

syfy.com/syfywire/dc-comics-dc-universe-layoffs-falloutI spoke with two sources with insight into the company’s plans who say WarnerMedia, the corporate umbrella inside AT&T that oversees Warner Bros. and DC, isn't planning to get rid of comics. Comics aren’t going anywhere. It’s more about the type of comic books we should expect to see and their placement in the new corporate hierarchy.Again, DC Comics isn’t going away. That’s the good news. As for the bad news, let’s try to unpack what’s happened with a wide-view lens.Does this mean DC is going to focus more on digital comics? WarnerMedia’s new CEO Jason Kilar has made direct-to-consumer a priority. The ongoing struggles of comics’ direct market seem to play into a bigger digital strategy. But no matter what importance digital comics play in DC’s future, given the success of the company’s trade paperback program with bookstores, physical comics and trade collections aren’t going anywhere.So why do this now, two weeks before the DC FanDome event? Short-term pain for long-term goals seems to be in play here. As mentioned earlier, COVID-19 has wrecked many corporate business plans. As one source explained to me, “If you’re running Warner Bros., why not write off all the expenses related to these job cuts and gutting DC Universe during this year of unprecedented challenges, and start fresh in 2021?”

it has nothing to with comic sales, brainletsWarber Bros just has a fuck ton of debt, theyre also trying to sell their game studios and crunchyroll to other companies

>>116891751Not true. Go to Readcomicsonline and check the top 10 comics. Saga, the Boys and TWD are there always.

I can't believe pic related led to DC's destruction.

Attached: batman who keks.jpg (1200x1822, 712.63K)

>>116885812I can only imagine how the editors at Marvel must have laughed and laughed when DC "stole" Bendis away from them.

>>116891803Maybe they're all the same person?

>>116886639DCfags will only buy Batman books no matter how shitty they are and other good books will just fall on the wayside. It's no wonder they're making even more Batman now.

>>116885812The part I really want to know is, which DC execs were against Nelson giving Bendis a golden contract?

>>116891965The only meta-threat that wasn't caged or killed and he managed to wreck DC. What a crazy world.Hope he gets picked up by Marvel.

>>116891241Their comics sold well and they’re big personalites still today, Todd MacFarlane is a millionaire and Jim Lee Is the “face” of DC.

>>116893529Batman always wins.

>>116891913games are bigger then ever and anime is what kids like.

>>116893069Don't care, just give me Batman

>>116893697Videogames are a big gamble. Development costs have skyrocketed and there's no guarantee you'll get enough profit for it to be worth the risk. Make sense to just license everything away and let someone else assume the risks.

>>116889169>>116889234 Being a comic book writer is the lowest of the low in the US enterteinment industry, pornographers have higher social standards.

>>116882831AT&T is in debt, so they merged with WarnerMedia and putting up DC, Crunchyroll, et al. as collateral. DC just sucks now, so they're restructuring. If DC goes bankrupt, their loss, not AT&T's. investopedia.com/terms/l/leverage.asp

Reminder that DC exs spent too much time posting on fucking twitter and abusing their position to try n sleep with frump sjw women than run a company.

Attached: 671F5F2A-C8B3-4917-B367-BCBFD4B30B78.gif (540x304, 1.86M)

>>116894456Which one?

>>116884119Please no. That leaves just Batman shit.

>>116891307/co/ isn't a board that i frequent that much, maybe every now and then I check out Holla Forums. I saw the news about the Ren and Stimpy guy and the guy who did some of the Batgirl comics, but only heard that Eddie Berganza still had his job with the Superman comics which is why not very many women want to work at the Superman comics.

You haven't seen anything yet. DC about to be 80% Batman. Watch.

>>116894844>but only heard that Eddie Berganza still had his job with the Superman comicsHe was gone since 2017, you're way behind

>>116894936I quit DC

>>116885404who is this cute boy?

They should do an event where they hype up that a member of the Justice League getting layed off.

>>116887817From Disney's point of view Marvel is fine as long as they aren't losing money.From AT&T's point of view DC isn't making them enough money.

>>116894936Ha! As if I care about anything other than Batman anyways.

>>116894945Oh, okay, that's cool.

>>116894998Is Social Anxiety Lantern still a member? Because that has story potential.

>>116891812The future is digital comics and trades in bookstores. DC's just getting there first. Floppies are going to be gone. They're just not sustainable.

>>116894027The videogame industry has arrived at where the movie industry is: relying on ulta-expensive mega-blockbusters with some micro-indies and nothing in between.

>>116894936They're reducing their Batman output?

>>116882831why are they using the New 52 promo picture?

>>116891803>I know this board is autistic but these posts hit a new high. It Is True WB hate King's child abuser Batman:i’m trying to figure out how they will retcon this run.

>>116884119What the fuck are gold lanterns?>>116886509I actually liked Tomasi's Superman tho.>>116885812Was there ever any doubt?

>>116895362I don't know about Western games because I don't play them, but pretty sure most Japanese games would be considered that "between".

>>116895404>It Is True WB hate King's child abuser Batman:>i’m trying to figure out how they will retcon this run.ow if only someone could help save superman.

>>116895381You're right. What he meant to say was there is about to be 1WW, 1GL, 1F, maybe 2SM, maybe 1 JL and the rest, however many that may be will all be Batman. At least 10 books.

>>116895404ESL

>>116895404>>116895460Super autism.

>>116895389Because it was supposed to kick off a glorious era of DC that would eventually lead into 5G (Not really, it was just a Hail Mary by Didio). The last decade has been terrible and even their animated movies sucked dick thanks to the New 52 synergy.

>>116891996Bendis is buddies with Quesada. Once DC is gone chances are he's going back to Marvel and we will have to endure a Bendis Thor run or Captain America run with whatever new OC he makes.

>>116887813What a retard

>>116895408>What the fuck are gold lanterns?There was a Gold Lantern in Bendis' Legion of Superheroes

>>116895581Yeah I looked it up. Is a black guy. I really hate niggers like Bendis, Jim Lee, Snyder, etc. They want to leave their own mark in comic history by trying to tear what others have done

>>116887861Earth to Retard, they lost money on Fox & Star Wars. And their theme park closers really fucked them all year.

>>116884119>At&t will also save us from BendisHow can a company be so fucking based and why was WB so fucking unbased?

DC killed themselves. Marvels' next. Just like that marvel exec said "Comic fans just don't want diversity". They knew way back then if they didn't fix things comics would eventually die. They chose not to. The bubbles they lived in just could not accept this conclusion and now this is the result.

>>116888578Are you retarded? Are you really that underage?

>>116895581>>116895593Let's not pretend Johns' every other color Lantern idea was any less stupid.

Wtf happened? DC used to dominate some years ago. Even at its lowest New 52 shit it was better than Marvel retarded events.Ok, now I want to see whats doing marvel thats so good these days. Recommend me some marvel on goings.

>>116895626dude, what r u talking about? marvel probably has more money then the whole US.

>>116895648ROY G BIV was cool. I the that green = willpower. Yellow being it's weakness just because it was the color yellow was stupid and had to go.

>>116895648I liked it to some degree also we got Sinestro Corps War which out of it. Also what >>116885767 says.

>>116889930>They gave Bendis an entire line and he's destroyed everything he's touchedExcept he got things like Wonder Twins to be a comic. Bendis has always been a guy who would be better as an idea man than an actual writer of said ideas.

>>116889930What has he ruined? GL Lore (to some degree) Superman, Legion and what else? Is there no deranged Superman fan deranged enough to shoot Bendis?

>>116885869When you see something you don't need at all but want extremely bad... you feel greed. It's an automatic response. It's an emotion. Just like rage or fear. And willpower can be easily thought of as a range of emotions in the green spectrum which encompasses courage, determination, and confidence and similar emotions.Compassion is absolutely an emotion.Hope is absolutely an emotion. Get the fuck out of here.

Attached: Screenshot_20200812-220158_Chrome.jpg (1080x1920, 809.63K)

>>116885869All the power rings are based on green lantern tech so it all works with will in some degree. I always thought Greed worked because some people act more because they're greed, that's what drives them even though the motivation is bad its still a driving force.

>>116884119Ever notice how it's a woman that ruins everything?

>>116895818>When you see something you don't need at all but want extremely bad... you feel greed.You might as well say hunger is an emotion.>Compassion is absolutely an emotion.What would make it different from love, aside from whatever issues Johns was going through with that Predator shit?>Hope is absolutely an emotion.If I hope someone would die, isn't that rage? If I hope a scary person disappears, isn't that fear? If I hope for world peace, isn't that love and/or compassion?

>>116895818Greed is a hubris fueled by emotion, not an emotion itself. Desire is an emotion.Your website in reference is garbage.

>>116891316There's plenty of good writer/artists in the west, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>116895965The predator thing wasn't new tho. It was an old GL rogue and it always had to do with Carol. Compassion is Empathy I guess which isn't really love and Hoping someone to die isn't really hope now is it? don't act dumb man

>>116895947Right, because men never make business decisions that are criticiz- OH WAIT!

>>116895991>Compassion is Empathy I guess which isn't really loveBut if you love someone, you'd have the highest compassion and empathy for them, wouldn't you?>Hoping someone to die isn't really hope now is it?Why not? What if it's a dictator or an abusive parent?

>>116895991>Hoping someone to die isn't really hope now is it?Some people hope for a lucky break, that their children will mature well, or that times will get better.However, I hope that SJWs will one day cease to exist. It carries me through the day and gives purpose to my existence.Hope is not an emotion. There's no immediacy to it.

>>116895575Didn't quesada already lose his pull at Marvel, though?

>>116896062I dunno, i personally dont think wishing malice shit on people is hope. Well Sapphire Love is more romantic love than aything else anyway>>116896114Yeah probably, maybe thats why Blue rings cant do anythibg since it only runs on hope

>>116895947Bendis.

>>116884119>believing this faggot

>>116895965You don't understand what hope actually is do you? Also hunger is a psychical fucking thing dude. It's your body physically letting you know it wants nutrients. So no, it's not the same fucking thing as greed, which is a psychological desire for something you don't need.

You guys are putting a lot of effort into quantifying a system that was codified by those little blue fuckups. I do love the guardians, and gold and ultraviolet lanterns are stupid for reasons all ready stated above, but you're taking the word of a group that literally fucks up everything they create and forming battle lines around it. Props on the will, but stop before we all become a Guy Gardener singularity. >>116885767I wish you wrote comics.

>>116885767>>116896452is it time for us to save DC?I feel that some of us are way better story tellers and world builders than the "professionals"

>>116896502DC's sunk. There's a shitton of story threads in Rebirth that just aren't going to happen and I don't know why. Literally nobody's addressed Bruce's constant attempts to take over the super hero community or his spare multiversal batcave or the first "dark multiverse" invader (that is still so stupid) coming out of the bleed or any one of a dozen threads that actually make a lot of sense and stitch together a strictly better METAL. At some point, they handed the big events to Snyder and he ignored all the setup. It bugs me. It actually bugs me to the point where I did something and I wish- I really do wish all of you would write a story. I wish there was a way to get those stories out there and make it work. But you can't. There's enough Bendises in the world- Mandraks- whatever you want to call them that want to monetize and eat good stories. fwiw, I tried to fix it but they're just too many fucking-I wish you would user. I wish we all would.

>>116894027Most of the money is in mobile games that have a very cheap development, just pump more of these games and to fund the big Triple A console games.

>>116882831Hasn't Trump been giving the rich a bunch of tax cuts? I thought there'd be more job creation. These days working Americans(not Trump), pay more in taxes than the rich. I'm actually in favor of more heavy taxes on the rich since most of them are left wing liberal progressives.

>>116896622There is gonna be another reboot, maybe 5G is dead but something like “Secret Crisis” is gonna happen soon.

>>116896821Trump tried to prevent AT&T from buying TimeWarner, nothing to do with monopolies but simply because of CNN.

>>116882831Lets get rid of some of that extra garbageThere thats better

Attached: 4892902.png (1312x1096, 2.31M)

>>116896622This is why I don't like going to Holla Forums, its just a reminder that DC has gone to shit which is honestly sad since I love the heroes in the brand.

>>116896863No its still not rightOkay here this is perfect

Attached: 5000302.png (781x2262, 2.01M)

>>116896847Wouldn't heavier taxes have prevented AT&T from buying Time Warner?

>>116887844Hi Andy

>>116896867Not following up on plot threads is not the end of the world, bro.

>>116896899AT&T was already with heavy debts before buying TimeWarner, and likely they need WB content to survive. Remember that Viacom owns CBS/Paramount and Comcast owns NBC/Universal.

>>116896916I mean I don't but when you go to Holla Forums you get a glimpse of shit you're trying to ignore, like I just saw a thread about something called Speed Metal? What in teh fuck.

>>116896930I expect Apple and Amazon buying some big Hollywood studio in this decade.

>>116895766What has he done right? He's paid a shit-ton to increase sales and all his books sell like shit.

>>116896821Keep telling yourself this bullshit and blaming other people for your failures.

>>116884186I think he got that salary because too many attribute Modern Marvel to him.No wonder they gave him Superman.The absolute idiocy of it.

>>116895991>The predator thing wasn't new tho. It was an old GL rogue and it always had to do with Carol.With the way Johns' wrote it, it was new. Old Predator was just Carol's masculinity given form due to her stress. Gerard Jones later tried to imply it was an alien parasite, but he got aborted along with his baby by Carol/Neron in the 90's. Same as his "Black Hand" who was a death fetishist instead of the cliche/proverb spouting goofball.

Attached: 1465110286433.jpg (601x907, 156.48K)

>>116882831the whole industry needs to burn!

>>116882831it wasn't real communism. we need real communism.

>>116897079Yeah I know about Predator and Blackhand, I like his take on them tho, he tried something new but it wasn't too outlandish and to some degree worked, his GL run is still one of the more popular DC runs.

>>116897091His Black Hand fit the story he was going for, but I just don't understand why he felt the need to actually use him other than the fact that he had "Black" in his name. It's literally a whole new character just to be edgy.

>>116887844cool? no its the opposite, its lazy,low effort pandering, i literally thought this was drawn by the editors kid on take your retard to work day!

>>116897108I mean Black Hand before was just some goofy fuck with a golden dildo like Sonar, I get what you mean why he was reinvented but a lot of silver age goofy heroes got reinvented for modern comics. I mean Lex in the silver age was some goofy bald fuck trying to fuck Supe's mom and in the modern era he's some bald fuck who killed a hundred people because hes incompatible to get super powers, modern writers can adapt old characters for modern times but they shouldn't just do it with no regard of what came before them. I think Johns respected what Black Hand was about unlike lets say White Tiger and how Bendis handled it.

>>116897066>I think he got that salary because they attribute dogshit to himThat should have been a reason not to sign him on at all.

>>116884119>mfw Ethan was right all along

Attached: tenor.png (634x640, 245.63K)

>>116885256>"more Batman will fix it!"14 of the 23 books from Black Label are Batman related books. Where are these Vertigo like stories that were promised for this line?

>>116897175Has he ever been wrong?

>>116897066>Modern MarvelMan i don't get why Bendis gets this rep, his most iconic work was Ultimate Spider-man? I read it, I couldn't even get pass #20

>>116896255? I mean is he actually wrong plus he was part of the industry so he actually knows the in and outs of it unlike people in Holla Forums who just larps half of the fucking time

>>116897182Of course not. He's the FrogFather.

>>116897137I'd be more inclined to believe you if his other reinventions weren't just as edgy either. Shark's first appearance since the 90's was him running up on land to eat 2 people on the beach with body parts hanging out of his mouth, Polaris gets blown the fuck up in Infinite Crisis, Tattooed Man's legacy was a generic gangster killing people and Black Hand's first appearance in Rebirth was him getting his hand melted off by the Spectre. I feel like the only ones he actually got right was Hammond and Goldface, who he was writing in his Flash run.Don't get me wrong, I greatly enjoyed his work on GL. Just find some of his direction in it ridiculous.

Attached: 1597099342653.png (225x257, 38.11K)

>>116897268Yeah I can respect your opinion also Shark only ate the one guy in his first appearance, he didn't eat the girl.

Capeshit just needs to die. You can't argue against it. Its suffered flanderization, decline, more pandering and gimmicks and ultimately the arrogance of the people in the industry and their desire to appeal to normalfags just made things even worse. Corona is doing us a service, but we ultimately need to take that first step. Let these books die, let the characters take a break for several decades, let people forget all the garbage. Its so fucking simple.

Attached: 1380824065435.jpg (793x746, 90.46K)

>>11689718820 years ago, Bendis' style of writing was something close to revolutionary. You could argue he was the one who brought about the endless wave of Marvel events. The success of Mark Millar's Civil War story may have been the first trigger, but by that time, Bendis had already set up Avengers Disassembled and House of M by fucking up Scarlet Witch forever. These kinds of status quo shattering stories were Bendis' bread and butter. Aside from defining Wanda's character for years to come, he also turned Spider-Man into the class clown that the entire superhero community absolutely hated to be around. He made changes that lasted for a very long time, and his unique manner of writing dialogue set him apart from other writers of that time. Even today, no one writes dialogue quite like him. 10 years ago I would have called that a compliment, but today I wish he were dead. I really do.

>>116897322What's gonna replace it? Indie stories have also been really bad

>>116897386does anything have to replace it? maybe comics need to finally die like they should have 5 years ago!

>>1168974644 years ago I'd tell you to go fuck yourself but comics is becoming more and mroe creatively bankrupt maybe it should get buried.

>>116897322>>116897464That's why you're a failure, because you demand something die because you have no actual solution

>>116897386Literally social media.

>>116897512>dieing isn't a solution

Attached: 1095026001404.jpg (1224x1445, 246.73K)

>>116897512all things break, all things die, it is the way of the world my friend