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since now that Rise crap is done with, now can we pick up the best and superior version of tmnt as a series?youtu.be/JQNZcBTOgt8

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>>116882701Can we do the mech one, similar but different.

Why did so much of Holla Forums hate Rise? It was the only tmnt property that caught my interest.

>>116882749too different i guess

>>116882701Kill yourself and that side cut dyke April is shit.>>116882728Kill yourself for that is NOT TMNT.What is up with you losers who want TMNT to be shitty? Fuck you. You're just as horrible as the bastards from IDW hired to do GI Joe.

>>116882749>Black April>Female Casey >Leader Raph>Turtles with wrong character traits>Not actually siblings>Modern lol random I can keep going. This rendition goes in the bucket with Turtle Xmas and the live action series with the girl.

>>116882749Well>Wasn't a fan of the designs especially the turtles>Wasn't really a fan of the art style in general>Wasn't a fan of the characterization>Wasn't a fan of the April.

>>116882765Nibba April is worse, this one looks cuteStay mad that Rise is shit

>>116882890Kill yourself. Rise is shit.

>>116882749Black and females bad (despite it being the best tmnt show to date)

>>116882765not all women with the side shave haircut are lesbos dude. my sister has one and 100% straightand fuck you this April cute af

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I'm a classic turtles fan, and I love Rise, the original was boring and making the foot clan paper themed was a genius move, I'm guessing nickbabies are the only ones shutting on this?

>>116882925Imagine having this much shit tasteKys yourself

>>116882808>>Female CaseyThis was the only thing that bothered me.

>>116882808I honestly feel like all that shit is superfluous compared to the fights, which Rise did well. At the end of the day I just want to see turtles fighting in my turtle fighting show, and the animation was top-notch. I couldn't care less about anything else.

>>116882749Muh blacks and wamen

>>116882808the next reboot will give fans exactly what fans wantedapril to not be black

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>>116882890>>116882901anons, you're both equally awful. Kill each other.

>>116882749the only people who hate Rise are boomers who watched the first episode and got spoiled on the rest without actually watching it. Anyone with half a brain knows Rise is great, or at least they find it decent fun.>>116882808>Black April>Female CaseyNothing wrong with that when their characterization is superior to previous versions>Leader Rapha great change that brings a fresh new take to the family dynamic, tmnt 2012 writers even stated on twitter how working with the same old cliches got boring after a while>Not actually siblingsMaking them different types of turtles makes their designs stand out and look more creative than just the same model with different bandanas and weapons>Modern lol randomt. don't watch modern cartoons but I'm gonna complain about them >I can keep going. No, you cant

>>116882701>sidecutDisgusting but still better than raceswapping>>116883624>Anyone with half a brain knows Rise is great,Then why was it cancelled?

>>116882701>Implying Jhonen wants to work with Nick again.After the Nick treated Enter the Florpis I doubt Jhonen would go back. Besides he's too busy becoming a full time Twitch streamer.

>>116882701We need the Teenage Mecha Ninja Turtles where Micky is now the master and where mutants are common place.youtube.com/watch?v=ijgRyNeeF5I&list=FLT0CAwzhxMRU0AhLJXqx37g&index=671

>>116883789too ben 10ney.

>>116883789No

>>116883624Can't tell if bait or just really stupid and happily eats shit.

>>116883690>Then why was it cancelled?Nickelodeon put it to fail, because Nick is being Nick and they do that to all shows that aren't an instant hit, how do you not know this?

>>116882728I'd love that. It's be like Batman Beyond but with Ninja Turtles.

>>116883789>Mike being the master>the futuristic settingonly good things about this shorteverything else needs improving

>>116883925>how dare you think bad wrong

>>116883537>the next reboot will give fans exactly what fans wanted>april to not be blackUnfortunately, once a white character is blackwashed they never, EVER return to their original skin color. Blacked is forever. April will never be a redhead again "because that would be racist".

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>>116883690>Then why was it cancelled?twitter.com/enjoy_rottmnt/status/1292583081694638082?s=09

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>>116884256?

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>>116884290The TMNT Team-UP and the rest of the TMNT Summer Shorts were made before Rise.

>>116882701>the best and superior version of tmntThat's not We Strike Hardyoutube.com/watch?v=mCuMfm03nFI

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>>116885053April has a mental illness haircut in that short. Hard pass.

>>116885053basically rise without outlines, worse animation and constant grain bloom

I'll admit that I liked Rise's fight animation but I hated everything else about it.

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>>116885560Why is the nerd dressed as Neo Cortex?

>>116882701That's some shitty character design.

>>116882728This. I think it's honestly more inline with the mishmash spirit of the original comics than any other series.

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>>116882701I wanna fuck goth april

>>116886599I see not goths in that short.

>>116883948>>116884286Nick could have put any one of their other shows to pasture. They chose Rise because it was the weakest show, and weakest performing show, on the roster.

>>116882808not the user you replied tobut black april is the only thing that has made me give a single shit about the TMNT franchise in my lifeshe looks cute

>>116886678Blapril looks like a tumblr granny. The design is dated and ugly.

>>116882925>the best tmnt showYou called?

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>>116886847First four seasons maybe.This tier thing is missin all the vidya games, lame.

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>>116887283>Rise that highAll I need to know this entire sheet is one giant mess of shitty opinions.

>>116887357A real shellhead would know how to have fun and if he wasn't he would respect the fun of others.

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>>116882701I'm seriously failing to see a major difference between this and Rise

Here's what I want out of the next showTurtles with slightly different body shapes and skin colors, and belts, but same bands (none of this hat eye mask stuff)Regular weapons.Leo being the big brotherMikey being the little brotherDonny being a dorkRaph being sassy, not moodyThe foot clan being a human shredder who is recruiting anarchistic teenagers. This means the turtles have to avoid hurting them too bad.April being an adult and a reporter again.The turtles frequently disguising themselves to try and mingle with people, causing problems.Krang behind the mutagen that turned them, but instead of an alien invasion, he's an exile, relying on shredder to steal all the equipment he needs.Rocksteady and BebopActual ninja stuff

>>116882701Why do people complain about Rise's artstyle, when jhonen's vasquez artstyle is even worse? He even gave April the dreaded, "half-shaved" haircut Holla Forums loves bitching about?

>>116888536rise was better animated

>>116882808They are actually siblings. They were made from splinters human DNA. They’re blood related to each other and to him. Also making Raph leader was kino.

>>116882701Next April should he Asian. Also they should keep all the turtles overly comedic like they did in Rise. Making them all shitlhead mikey clones with subtle differences in personality made them seem more like brothers to me.

>>116888943I wanted Raph to suffer more from the pressures of being the leader.

>>116888834To be honest, I’m more surprised that people think it’s the worst style when the ugly mess that is TMNT 2012 exists.

>>116889008Yeah, I wouldn’t mind a short story arch about that. Would be nice to see how he handles things differently to Leo. Too bad we’ll never see Raph as leader ever again.

>>116888943Raph was leader in the first movie, too. >Raphael>he's the leader of the group>transformed from the norm by the nuclear goopyoutube.com/watch?v=t4j9o6324bo

>>116889186I’m pretty sure that was just an error by partners in Kryme,

>>116888943Can I just say I genuinely don't understand the seethe about "not real brothers" when even disregarding the fact that they actually are, family is one of the main themes of the entire series Like seriously, WHY put effort into caring about something like that

>>116889186>Turtles were never black tho

>>116888834I have to agree, but listen up this is Holla Forums. This place worships cartoons with the SHITTIEST art styles ever drawn up. Look at how many losers here pretend Frankie from Fosters is the hottest thing in the world. Or how many failure masturbators think that the old hag with the rotten tooth from Owl House looks like Ryoko from the anime Tenchi. And do I need to mention about how many idiot wankers here pretend that certain characters from Star Vs look just as attractive as the ones from Sailor Moon? This is Holla Forums shit art styles are the center piece of western animation. Hideous character designs are the main deal.It's honestly disappointing. While I understand that good writing is more important for a cartoon of any type, having a good art style is quite important and it annoys me to see many bastards here spam and pretend such ugly looking shows are great and that the ugly females are somehow hot.

>>116883788What? They released it on Netflix, where it got way more views from people who actually remember the show than it would have otherwise.

>>116882701Make April a goddamn adult again.

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>>116882701I want the next TMNT cartoon to be different, but also good. I cannot stand another TMNT cartoon doing the same Northhamtom arc and all the samey repetitive story beats like Splinter getting murdered. It's all played out.I don't have a good opinion about the current generation of employed writers. I also think that Viacom and Nick are horrible owners for TMNT. That future stupid Rogen movie is looking like garbage. And it just feels like TMNT is going to suffer.

>>116889416Nah, teen April was best thing 2012 tmnt did. She helps make the turtles feel like teens and her being young makes other adult characters seem a bit more important.

>>116882749I can't speak for the quality of the show as I'm not really a TMNT guy, but that animation is worth the price of admission. What I didn't understand was how they managed to have such good animation and keep that quality between episodes.

>>116882749twitter.com/zimmerltw/status/1291905205789810689This is one of the best pieces of modern animation I've ever seen in a TV series, anime included.

>>116889515Both examples of Teen April have been horse shit.

>>116889515April has never been a "just a kid just like you" type character you piece of garbage. April's point is being a trusted figure among mankind. And what better way than to have her be a young adult maybe early in college who can drive and get a job where she can gather information for the turtles?Being a kid means she has a father to answer to. And it took BAD writing eventually in the Nick cartoon to justify April no longer going to school and no longer having her father around (and I mean after April's father is saved). Basically all these elements disappeared. No explanation at all, April now no longer has a father to answer to as he ceased to exist as soon as he was saved the second time. Her aunt? Also stopped existing. It takes shit writing to justify why a teen girl basically lives by the night.

>>116882808>Black AprilI don't care if her race and characterization was wrong (really though, what's the deal with blackwashing redheads).The fact that her action scenes were among the best animated more than makes up for it. I was gonna skip that episode with the girl scouts but they came out of nowhere with that ridiculous ball and chain fight.

>>116889409Several of the staff members who worked on the movie mentioned that no one from Netfli or Nick contacted Jhonen congratulating on the movie. They have been radio silent and just neglected the movie.

>>116889628good thing they avoided that in Rise by having her actually go to school and be normal

>>116889683Yeah but rise bad though

>>116889557It's not exactly a secret, basically they keep most of the comedy and dialogue scenes relatively cheap and then burn budget on board work that boarders on rough animation for when it counts.

>>116889628Your imagination is weak.

>>116889728Is this the power of Nickelodeon's budget. If Cartoon Network didn't make Teen Titans into an episodic comedy could we have gotten animation like this?

>>116882808>>116882835>>116886847>>116882701Considered that. What you think about TMNT 2012

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youtube.com/watch?v=qzUlqQfznMUno THIS is the best version of TMNT yet

>>116889628Get rid of her dad. Make her raised by a struggling single mother whose multiple jobs make her neglect her child. Boom, now teen nigger April is justified.

>>116888834>Why do people complain about Rise's artstyleEffeminate character designs. Everyone looks weak, cutesy, and "safe". A lot of these new effeminate cartoons look sterile. Ugly is interesting, especially when combined with cute, sexy, cool etc.

>>116882808>hating a something for superficial changes that have no bearing on the show/co/ never ceases to demonstrate how shit its tastes are

>>116889924>effeminate character designsare you joking? even April looks manly

>>116889768Modern animation and old use a similar strategy too production and it comes up,,see bh6 animated, the extra boarder work was pretty much entirely on the prod team from what I remember, they weren't getting extra hours or something, it was simply because there was people on the prod staff that wanted too put forth the effort and had the time. I don't see it becoming a trend but it was nice too see.

>>116889943April and the rest look androgynous.

>>116889924I agree user, weak, cutesy and safenot a single sharp corner in this show

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>>116890268Yes, including this goofy thing.

>>116882728Power rangers but they have turtle costumes instead

>>116889924>safeIf it was safe and cutesy we'd be getting TMNT Team Up level designs.

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>>116890268The more I stare at it the worse it gets. That 2 frame visual noise is giving me a headache

>>116887283>>116882701Missing the anime TMNT

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>>116889794It was ok, April was a bit to young and Cassy is one of his worst version

>>116882701Cassy should be one of April's teachers

>>116887283If I were to put your never watched into tiers in my opinion,Put the IDW comics into the A tier, the anime can go into the C tier, the Michael Bay movies can be C tier, and Batman VS TMNT is definitely A tier.

>>116887283The nineties movie not S Tier. You’re letting nostalgia dictate your judgement. I’d put it at C.

How about Teenage Mutant Barbarian Turtles?

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Ok hear me out Instead of being ninjas they're KNIGHTS, and master splinter is their king.

Put a pervert on it

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We need alcohol consumption to return to the franchise.

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>>116891691>>116891697A more timeless setting would be interesting, maybe some kind of fusion of imperial Japan and Rome, where everything is vaguely magitech but they still have things like guards roaming the streets and use melee weapons.

>>116884256starfire isn't white,

>>116891691Would make for a great one off movie.

>>116886847>Actually thinking 2003 is superior to rise or 2012Never mind the bland animation, Lackluster character design, and watereddown rehashes of comic storylines, Donnie being absolutely worthless,etc

>>116892334Holy shit what awful taste.

>>116889794Fucking loved it. Rise is a blight and I am glad it's gone. Only bad thing 2012 did was change Leos voice.

>>116882749Didn't have enough Splinter.

>>116889794Probably the best TMNT show out there. Great fights, CGI was pretty good for a show, and had some fun storylines that didn't hold back the punch when need be. No idea why so many people hate teenage April, I mean yeah I can kinda get not liking her mutant side but her joining up with the ninja training was great.Also had the best Splinter, able to be fun and silly while still being respectable and badass, and doesn't make you immediately hate everything about him just by looking at his design like Rise does.

>>116892728>turned April into a Mary Sue with an absurd amount of abilities>worst Casey by far, so useless he was practically a Scrappy>killed Spinter off THREE times for cheap drama>incestuous Karai/Leo shipping>April leading Donnie on and stunting his character growth>dropped plotlines all over the place >Only bad thing 2012 did was change Leos voice.

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>>116882701Can we just let those fucking Turtles rest for at least 3 or 5 years? No matter how good or bad the new TMNT will be you faggots are gonna complain anyway

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>>116892966The fact Rise didn't even have a full year between 12 ending will always be a massive reason as to why it failed so damn hard, at least to me.Hell 12 wasn't even finished airing when Rise was announced. They went in way too fast and changed way too much shit and ruined any chances they had right from the starting line. Which is honestly kind of impressive.

>>116892039That isn't a blackwashing white image, it's a blackwashing of red hair.

>>116883624>characterization is superior to other versionswhat was it like getting coffee for the storyboarders who "worked" on that pile of shit, rise?

>>116892965Don’t forget that it looked like complete shit and took the monster of the week trope to the next level.

>>116892966Lmao. There’s already 2 movies on the way. Gotta keep this steam train rolling for all the shekels.

>>116882728Shredder Raph and Dark Leo story arc.

>>116889768I almost think the animation studio being in Australia might've had something to do with dodging union regulations that kept costs down when necessary and made things move along faster for them, but idk if that's actually true

>>116886847>teenage turtles > they all look like grown ass men

>>116894445>lookhave you heard their voices? Pretty sure Raph’s a chain smoker.

>>116892334Nigger.>>116894445>implying that's not how they looked in the original comicsFuck off with that skinny turtle twink bullshit. No one reads or watches TMNT for teen drama and awkwardness. Brick shithouse turtles are best turtles.

>>116892966Newton is my spiritual animal.

>tmnt 2012 had every single tmnt thing ever in it>rise was a bold change of pace and made things different>now were back to the same old shitThe next animated tmnt iteration will be boring and forgettable, playing it way too safe and showing the weaknesses tmnt has as a franchise. And you can't blame anyone but yourself.

>>116889416>those legs

>>116882701>>116882925>>116883514>>116883624>>116889578

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>>116882749bad artstyle and shitty designsi didn't like that they did with raph

>>116894745>canceledIt's been dead since it got put on Nicktoons.

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>>116894792the art style and designs were great though really not sure how you can call Rise ugly when 2k3 2012 and 2007 exist

>>116895121Their teeth seem to be the aspect that bother people the most. They're just ugly smilers, user.

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>>116895172I don't understand, whats wrong with their teeth?

>>116895198>What's wrong with their teethI guess you either find it hideous or you don't.

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>>116882749I'm just assuming its too different. I've never had a huge fixation on TMNT or anything but it seems like a ton of people do

>>116891997That's be nice.

>>116892039But she ain't black, she's more of a Spanish to eastern European completion.

>>116892039>Electro was a redhead right?

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>>116895781Change is inherent in all of TMNT, even the shows themselves usually end looking completely different from how they started (with 12 and Rise really being the only ones to stay the same throughout) but there is a limit to what you can change and poke around with and Rise just did too much from the very start.

>>116896147I disagree. I don't think the problem was that it changed a lot. I'd argue that it was just... bad. It would not have been a very good show even if you filed off the serial numbers and called it something else. Pretty, sure, sometimes at least, but the storytelling, characterization, and worldbuilding were all over the map.

>>116896221I'm just speaking from a first impression point if view since I never want to actually watch this show. Talking shit about it is just fine since Rise fans are apparently retarded.Not really surprising to hear any of that though.

i saw that rise battle with Shredder and is the choreography and animation always that good? I think that was one of the better more intense western animated fights I saw.

>>116895781As someone who casually likes Turtles but didn't watch it it's the designs of the turtles themselves that are so off-putting to me. I've seen clips of shockingly good fight animation from the show but the surface level art style on the main characters is so wildly unappealing I still can't bring myself to give it a shot. It's admittedly shallow and it's not the kind of thing I usually let get to me but for this franchise it kind of does.I think the thing with the turtles is that they're cool as a group. They're not all too different from the appeal of sentai/power rangers shows, the characters mainly exist as a unit. The more you push to give the turtles unique silhouettes and characteristics like mask hats or Donnie's goggles or Ralph being twice their size the more you get away from what makes them cool. There's no synergy in the Rise designs like there is in the comics or 2003 show, the diversity is good on paper but in practice it's a lot less marketable. It reminds me of the problems Sonic Boom faced, the franchise has a really specific visual language and when it tried to break away from and it unintentionally felt more generic as a result. Being stylish is really important to both franchises, it's why they sell in the first place, so no amount of cute writing or technical competency is going to make people give a shit since they're not going to bother taking the first step to discover any of that. Also I hate their androgynous faces and weird toothy smiles but that's just personal taste.

>>116896893>androgynous faces>androgynous That word doesn't mean what you think it does.

>>116889794Decent CGI and designs, but that's all it has going for it. The plots and characterization were garbage.

>>116896971>and designs2012 was ugly as fuck. the turtles and splinter looked okay but everything else was hideous.

>>116882749racists fans

>>116882701this looks even worse you stupid racist faggot

>>116882749>>116897054These posts are funny to me because they perfectly echo the opinions of Star Wars Sequel fags. The moment you criticize the "creative" decisions of the product, they'll call you a racist, sexist, bigot, etc.

>>116897078I gind your post hilarious because you think being racists is legitimate critisim

>>116896584Yes, even in episodes that don't focus on the plot.

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>>116896995This. Also my god did they love slapping purple onto everything.

>>116897098>I gind your post hilariousWhat did she mean by this?

>>116897258>>116897317I can barely register what's going on in these sequences. The composition is chaotic and never gives your eyes time to adjust to anything. The shaky cam is relentless, and the frequent zooms destroy immersion. Not even a kid with ADHD could follow something like this.

>>116897258>>116897317God I hate these fight scenes so fucking much everything is constantly moving I can't keep up for the God damn life of me.I've seen good fighting animation, this is not fucking it. I always need to watch any rise webm at LEAST three times to fully understand what in the fuck is going on.How anyone can enjoy this without being an ADHD fuckhead is beyond me.

>>116897612Maybe you’re just slow oldman

>>116897622That may be so but these fight scenes are still a flaming pile of dog shit you damn zoomer.

>>116897587The webms are out of order, but:>first webm>april blocks attack with tray and then kicks underneath the girl to throw her off balance>girl regains balance, but slips on tray april threw and falls on face>april dives towards rack, picks up cookies, blonde girl is in pursuit behind her>april finishes off with milk and then ties girls hair togetherI don't know, seemed pretty simple to me.