Elder Scrolls Hate Thread

Hate Tamriel? Want to pull the tail off an Argonian? Feel like taking a big, smelly shit in the High Hrothgar donation basket? Good, come post in here why.

This shitty series fucking lied to me my whole life about fantasy RPGs and the entire RPG structure of gameplay, and now I wanna go throw a molotov cocktail at the Bethesda office window to express how pissed I am.

Here's my Elder Scrolls story, but this doesn't have to be a blogpost thread, just share what you hate about and why you hate The Elder Scrolls series.

My first introduction to Fantasy RPGs was my friend's copy of Oblivion. He was a diehard fan that had 100%ed every possible playthrough of every main Elder Scrolls game. At the time, watching him explore a fantasy world was really cool, so I eventually got a copy of it too.

And it fucking bored the shit out of me, so I dropped it in about 10 hours. I would later go on to play Action RPG-lites like Deus Ex, KotOR, Fallout 3, NV, Mass Effect, WoW, SWTOR, Dark Souls and the like. These held my interest, but were fairly casual by RPG standards.

But any time I tried to play an Elder Scrolls game - and I tried all of them - I just could not give a shit less about them. Not their exhaustive lore, not their worlds, the only thing of any vague interest were its creatures.

So for years, the whole fantasy RPG setting was a bad taste in my mouth. Even when I tried Two Worlds, I just stopped within 20 minutes because it reminded me of everything I hated in The Elder Scrolls. The very idea of playing a fantasy RPG or any kind of RPG with intensive RPG elements was about as appealing as huffing farts while reading public law records. I felt like I'd have more fun meticulously cleaning my keyboard with a toothpick than play any kind of actual RPG, especially one in a medieval fantasy setting.

But three days ago, I tried Baldur's Gate for the first time. And holy fucking shit, I never knew what I was missing. I fucking love RPGs, and fantasy RPGs now, now that I'm actually playing a good one for once.

What the fuck is it about The Elder Scrolls that makes it so incredibly boring and uninteresting, Holla Forums? It tries so hard to hold your attention, and yet massive world after massive world filled with steampunk dwarven ruins, bone dragons, talking cat people and portals to hell, even with a shitton of mods quickly becomes a series of endless chores rather than an adventure.

Anyways, there's my rant, for now at least. Can't believe I let one shitty series cheat me out of an entire genre.

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i want to fuck a khajit!

I don't even want to acknowledge the franchise. It's never been good. Morrowind has god awful game play. Daggerfall has no actual intelligent design behind it. Every game in the series is garbage.

Same, Khajits were one of a small handful of good things about it.

But that's like the corn kernel in a turd, sure it's a gold nugget, but I don't want to have to reach in to dig it out.

Why is he so perfect?

Why are there several hate threads up at once?

Haven't we talked this game to pieces by now?

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Holy moly, that doesn't sound very nice.

I hate Todd. Is it good enough, OP?

I like Skyrim

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No, wait, I think I hate Pete "jet is pre-war" Hines more than Todd.

What are some good Fantasy RPG then?

Threadly reminder that if you enjoy playing skyrim you are mentally ill.

PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME, Holla Forums. I KNOW I FUCKED UP WITH FALLOUT 4 BUT I PROMISE I'LL ADD 5 DIALOGUE OPTIONS INSTEAD OF 4 IN THE NEW TES GAME!! I'LL EVEN LET YOUR CUSTOM MADE WIFE LIVE THIS TIME!!

But which console button will correspond to the fifth button, todd?

You know this is not going to work! There are only so many buttons on a controller!

The novelty of Open World has died off, so therefore TES will, too. Bethesda will have no choice but to either add actual depth to their games to stay relevant or put the series to rest.
If they abandon the Open World shit for whatever new hot shit is out by TES6, they'll lose their core audience and their trust. Bad move.

All TES games are shit. Great potential, but its all squandered by bad design and incompetence. The lore is top notch and it will forever hurt that TES is locked to Bethesda when other developers could do so much more.

No, stob it

Working as intended.

Is Todd Howard homosex? I can't see why an hetero would have this perfect grooming.

everyone is a bit bisexual

tomboys are basically the straight man's choice if their cocks have been mutilated by the jew and their christcuck morality prevented them from ever doing anything with twinks except maybe stuff like mutual masturbation on a sleep over.

Because Bethesda suck at making games.

The simple solution would be to not play Elder Scrolls and stop caring what people think.

Bethesda has already lost their core audience, the only people left are fags who think playing TeS makes them hip and cool.

is this a joke? these games are indeed flawed but RPG Codex and 8/v/ aren't the target audience.
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also, Fallout 4 did insanely well. since its just Skyrim with guns (they were so lazy that they just added more primary statistics that effect nothing to Skyrim's system, made it effect perks, and called it a day, so only three primary statistics matter) a lot of people who like Skyrim no doubt bought Fallout 4, which means that Fallout 4's selling like hotcakes probably means that TES VI will sell like hotcakes.
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Baldur's Gate is derivative bioware trash though
congratulations, you've traded shit for shit

The blog post was unnecessary. Quote above was all you needed to say to make us understand that you are ruined forever.

No we're not, you fucking faggot.

don't you have a gradeschool to corrupt, degenerate?

you're wrong, that is pre EA m8

Do any of you two feel a bit attracted to tomboys?

Uhhhhh…

You don't get to bring complaints.

The dev plan I filed with the publisher lists that mountain over there as climbable.

Get a room, faggots.

Bethesda and tes are square and ff of the west.

I had the opposite experience, I was a huge casual retard when I first played Oblivion (I had only really played COD and Halo before that) and absolutely loved it, ended up buying it 3 times in total (once for 360 version, once for GOTY edition, and again on PC). I then really liked F3 and Skyrim until afterwards I went back and played Morrowind which made me despise anything that came after it as well as most other RPGs I tried, including Baldur's Gate which is awful garbage with terrible writing and terrible gameplay.

Of course Morrowind sucks too but it's pretty unmatched in its setting and sandbox elements (there are games that do each of those better but I've found none that do both at the same time better than Morrowalk).

Seriously though the first Baldur's Gate is worse than Oblivion how can you enjoy that shit?

BG1 is garbage, but BG2 is really good.

Elder Scrolls is so fucking shitty. Let's start with the combat. When you hit an enemy, it feels like you're hitting air. The enemy rarely even flinches and your swinging animation stays the same as if you were swinging at air. The AI is so fucking shitty that they can get shot in the head with an arrow and say "oh must have been nothing" if they don't see you. All the characters are bland as fuck that you get bored of the main story within minutes. After exploring the barren landscape, you realize the game is empty as fuck and basically a walking simulator. There aren't even any fucking yellow switch palaces.

Argonians turned me into a scalie

also i'm a bit of a subby masochist :3

He is a midget so he is compensating.

I feel the only reason TES got as successful as it did, is because of the modding community. Aside from the lore threads on Holla Forums, you never really hear about what's so good about the game, other than "mods" and how edgy faggots like the Dark Brotherhood.

I used to spend so much time installing mods, looking for them, downloading them (took ages because I had shit internet at the time), trying to work out why something conflicted with another thing, all that stuff. Then I'd spend about 30 minutes trying it out and saying ok that works and then never touch it again.

While I'm not against mods, they can add so much to games, I'm against the idea that you should buy a game just because it supports mods. On forums, you would see people talking about how they're going to mod it when they get it, how the PC version is better because of mods, all that sort of shit. So they always hype the games up to be something that the "Consolefags" can't have.

Now at first Consolefags would say that mods aren't important if they were trying to counter the argument, but then once the new gen version of Skyrim got announced, everyone was suddenly "omg mods on my PS4!" I don't actually know if mods are in the new version, because I haven't looked into it but I've seen this being mentioned quite a lot. That and they want the "Ultra HD textures", which still look awful.

I've never really seen anyone talk about their favourite quests in the game, their favourite race, characters or any sort of strategy to play the game. Other than lore and mods. Your character always feels so disconnected from the world and anything you do in the world is never a talking point other than "wow I killed that enemy!".

I've also never seen anyone say that the gameplay itself is amazing or awesome. Any time I've criticized the engine they use, it's only ever come back with "it's fine" or "it's used in other games too"

So deep down, I don't really think anyone actually likes these games and just doesn't want to admit it. Anyone that's played the series, usually ends up the first one because it was the first one they played and not for any other reason. Just people who want lore read a fucking book or mods play a better fucking game

*Usually ends up liking

Well, any TES game after Morrowind (which was nice, even if not great) was hot garbage that didn't deserve the title of an RPG.

no surprise there

I am not a faggot myself.
I am the only straight guy to actually exist, it's just that the vast majority of guys are actually bisexual.

Because something like 99% of them watch porn. I never watched porn my whole life or masturbated. I always had a woman to shoot my seed inside.

Both are garbodor

Truth be told, with enough modding they are passable fetish oriented sex simulators.

Elder Scrolls setting is still better designed than the Game of Thrones one.

And idiots like both, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

that your a faggot.

Well I guess I've been trolled yet again!

HAHAHAHA
FAGGG

I enjoy playing skyrim

Do you enjoy sucking dick, love?

I do! :3

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y-you too

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Is k geam.

Should have just played Dragon Quest you fucking faggot.

The only good elder scrolls game is a modded elder scrolls game. Because I should be able to play a working game (unofficial patches), use custom weapons and magic, design sexy waifus to my liking, and fuck them.

No. They never can. Just like video games can never be art.

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he has a wife and kids

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TALKING MUTANTS

… huh.

LOL!

Gets me every single time

so you think it's funny to ruin things for others?

IT IS

We are reaching good goyim levels I didnt think were possible

ARE WE

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WHAT A RIP OFF OF A MOD
rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/which-oblivion-dev-lied-the-most.15427/

Daily reminder that bethesda ripped off a new vegas mod for a far habor quest in fallout 4

Isn't it every modder's dream to have a big publisher and developer notice them thanks to their mod?
The guy should be eternally grateful to them.

The entire settlement system is ripped off of a New Vegas mod.

what the fuck is wrong with hines' face?

what are you talking about?

And just the other day I was wondering how cucked PU had gotten, they used to be pretty good.

without acknowledging them and/or thanking them for their work? I dont think so. That would be cucking hard as Jeb.

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I think what got me with Skyrim and other games like it is the sheer scale makes me not want to bother having to dig into it. In trying so hard to create a detailed world and communicate the lore it makes diving into it very hard if you are pedantic about seeking details in games.

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You best be joking, nigger.

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Blogposting aside I wanna understand where you're coming from but frankly I just think you're a dipshit. If you let a shitty game ruin every other game for you then, on top of being a literal autist, you really seriously need to consider another hobby. There's a ton of fucking games out there, this entire board is essentially built on game recommendations, not saying you should take everyone's word here as seriously as the Lord's but go into an RPG thread that hasn't spiraled into a Bethshit or Bioware hate thread and see what games are being posted. There. Problem solved. My first RPG was technically Bards Tale for ps2 but first ended up getting interested in the genre from Oblivion too when it first came out. A year later I was playing better games and said fuck Elder Scrolls too

Todd is literally the saviour of modern gaming.

Most people I know do have one solid reason to praise the game and that is it's freedom. Now certainly there are an enormous amount of ways that it gets retardedly restricted like essential NPCs and the like but there really are few games out there that offer what's appealing about "the Bethesda formula." The only good ones are either Morrowind which also sucks, FNV which is alright but has some problems, and anything past those is straying pretty far like Dorf Adventure Mode or Mountain Blade which don't really offer the same kind of enjoyment.

People are tired of being carefully told where to go, what to do, to care about the main quest, and so on. Whether they consciously know it or not they don't like the direction that Bethesda has been heading in with making each of their games have more and more of a focus on the main quest and railroading you into it instead of encouraging to do whatever you want. At my normalfag high school most people that played Skyrim hardly touched the main quest and preferred the side factions or just wandering around walking into dungeons.

M8, TES sell like hotcakes. I don't know what Yokudan Stone Magic Todd uses but it's not something that can be put down so easily.

Already happened. Now they pander to millennials.

DESIGNATED

bethesda's audience everyone

That brunette is hot as hell

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I want to fuck her tight pussy even though she's an SJW retard