Does such thing as good open world game even exist? I really fucking want game with fuckhuge seamless map where I can go wherever and do whatever, but I also want it to be a good game - with good combat, good enemies, good whatever non-combat activities devs could come up to. Is making game like this so hard?
Post games that you think did it right, I won't shit on your game if I disagree with you, and I will give it a hones shot if I didn't play it already. Bonus points for chink/jap setting.
"The Perfect Open World Game" is really only perfect on paper and just "okay" when put into practice
c. The entire GTA Franchise
Ian James
If wandering around an endless landscape is so important to you, why not just go outside?
The best video games are like theme park rides: the thrills, chills and spills are carefully portioned out so you're craving more by the time the game is over.
Did you learn nothing from Nu-male's Sky?
Robert Murphy
I played several GTA games, and never could get into any one of them. Both top-down and 3D ones. Most importantly I didn't like combat, but off putting settings, stories and characters only added to negative impression. Same for Saints Row series.
I can't tell if you're being ironic or moronic.
Kevin Rivera
Here's what I think is the problem with GTA GTA V, for example, is perhaps one of the most impressive games ever made from a technological and scale perspective
But its just not very fun, like they took the fun out of everything. Driving feels too easy, combat feels too easy, there's just no fun. As a driving/walking simulator its fantastic and I find myself still booting it up just to walk around Los Santos, but the fun just isn't there. GTAs problem isn't that its a movie full of QTEs, its problem is that its too "polished" and plays it too safe from a gameplay standpoint. And so the fun is gone. Video games should be first and foremost fun.
Asher King
Just go outside dude, head to some forest or something, take a backpack and a phone/camera, breath that fucking fresh air.
Zachary Thomas
ebin
Gabriel Wright
Why are you giving me a meme response when im being serious here?
Jack Robinson
Die alone in front of a screen and then burn in hell for all eternity for all we care, then, you pile of shit.
Joshua Davis
Well it's not out yet, nor have we seen anything of it yet, but apparently Dynasty Warriors 9 is going to be open world. They said it's going to be a "rebirth" of the series. I'm guessing that it's going to play out something like a Mount and Blade mod.
Joseph Morgan
Minecraft? All autistic fandom aside, the possibilities in that game are endless and building a world with online friends will always be fun
unless they update it to the point that fun is more alien than a Mexican at Starbucks
Jonathan Powell
Minecraft is literally the shittiest overworld though. Its the largest, but large =/= better. In fact, the worst open worlds are typically the largest because the largest ones almost always get "nothing but empty space syndrome"
Hudson Perry
I like the Spider-Man games, but I don't know if they'd be up your alley.
Adrian Wright
>tfw I'm still trapped in suburbia surrounded by shitty liberal faggots with nothing but houses and the occasional busness track/red light district in a 30+ mile radius of my house
Parker Adams
I'm so jealous user, you have to explore that shit and make some nice memories.
Noah Kelly
Well if not GTA or Minecraft, wtf open world games are there that are actually entertaining?
Chase Stewart
Shenmue, Sleeping Dogs.
But I like my Videogames with a bit of GAME in them
Chase Hill
What suburbia? Or the state itself? Because I've done both. I've been all throughout this state, from Yosemite to Death Valley to Irvine, this state really has everything. Suburbia? I've walked all around this city, its boring. I've done a bit of urbex down some abandoned railways and even abandoned buildings up in LA near Griffith Park, there's a lot of shit to explore over there, I could probably write a book if I wanted too. But for the most part nothing is anything special within walking distance of me, just a lot of soulless people. To find anything interesting here you need a car.
Easton Perez
Well, i guess that we all have different outlooks on life and the stuff surrounding us.
Anthony Gonzalez
Runescape
Charles Reyes
Minecraft 1.8 with mods and custom maps, I shit you not, it's great and comfy.
GTA, Saints Row, The Saboteur, Mercenaries 2, WoW, TDU 1& 2, Burnout Paradise, and the AssCreed series are some of my favorites. Watch Dogs included.
Not OP, but because I wanna fall off shit, blow up shit, kill shit and not die, be injured or get arrested IRL. Also too broke to afford to do anything, and the real life outdoors when you're not in a hub of civilization is boring as shit.
Adam Price
I just realized how IGN I sounded there. Fine, have the patrician list.
It may not have been the better RPG, but it had the better OPEN world, whereas Fallout NV is relatively linear and New Vegas proper is a pain in the ass to explore with all the shitty loading barriers.
Jayden Powell
Exploring shit by yourself doesn't make nice memories though. It's pretty boring unless you can do it on your own time or have someone to share the memories with.
Ian Harris
Speak for yourself, i can get enjoyment out of simple moments, stuff like just being alone on a rooftop is really amusing imo.
Joseph Mitchell
Just Cause 2, while a good game, is still A BAZILLION SQUARE MILES OF FUCKING NOTHING TO DO in large swathes of its map. Mad Max is DRIVE AN ALUMINUM CONTAINER OF GASOLINE AROUND UNTIL YOU HAVE KILLED EVERYONE, AND THEN WHEN YOUR CAR IS RELIABLE, THE GAME IS OVER. Fallout 3 requires far too many mods from that cuckold factory that is Nexus to be tolerable, if only to fix the fucking billion bugs in it, and hope that the mesh of mods don't cause MORE crash situations.
Zachary Howard
I should mention that I really love old and abandoned buildings and ruins. For that I would recommend the Assassin's Creed series since urban exploring in ancient cities is just really comfy.
Also I've been recently enjoying Witcher 3 for similar reasons, as well as the absolutely beautiful forests and landscapes.
I'm also looking forward to Zelda Breath of the Wild, it seems to be just the kind of open-world I've been waiting for some time now
My main problem with GTA V's world is the fact that while it's big and pretty, it's also really empty. For example, the only buildings you can visit outside of small shops and the main characters' homes.
Landon Roberts
the only buildings you can visit outside of missions are small shops and the main characters' homes.*
Charles Long
Witcher 3
Noah Perez
That's one of my biggest pet peeves in sandbox games. You have this huge world with tons of buildings in it but the developers go full Dark Corners of the Earth with like 0.5% of them being able to enter and interact with.
Angel Ross
fuel is the perfect example of "see that mountain?"theres fuck all to do
Leo Parker
In sacred 2 you can open every door, enter every building and take every staircase there is. But yeah you can't do anything except for finding little easter eggs or secret dev NPCs.
William Johnson
Regarding Assassin's Creed, II and Brotherhood, I would strongly recommend turning off the HUD and if possible, print out a map of the in-game cities (although using the in-game map is acceptable). They did an excellent job with giving it enough landmarks to help navigate yourself around the world and you feel like a genuine explorer. Losing the Sync/Health bar gives a little extra challenge to the combat as well.
Then they went to Revolutionary Era America and completely missed the point of the series. I've yet to play Unity or Syndicate, but they seem to be back on form for what I've described above.
Angel Foster
asscreed 3 was an abomination
Gabriel Myers
Saints Row 2 is still one of the best open world sandbox games, its just a shame that it never really got a good PC port. The game was filled to the brim with content, customization, great radio stations The Mix is best, activities like being a body guard for a celebrity or spraying buildings with shit, it was a great time.
Isaiah Richardson
I'll always love Revelation. Fuck me if Ezio exploring Constantinople with his best looking, coolest goddamn suit aged like a fine wine killing muslim shits wasn't comfy as fuck.
Nicholas Brown
Sleeping Dogs, It's a good game chock full of things to do.
too bad the developers went kaput
Carter Thompson
Plus the extendo-hook made climbing and getting down to street level faster
Xavier Carter
You neglect to mention the Wilderness, AKA the greatest exhibition of copy pasted tree paths the world has ever seen.
You know, I should rate Revelation more. At the time, I felt it was kinda derivative and tired, but that could have easily been due to the yearly release cycle they were pushing for at the time.
Hunter Sullivan
I like Morrowind's map and Skyrim's one to an extent. Pokemon games have a decent amount of land to explore. Okami has a gorgeous world. Legend of Zelda is pretty neat too.
The thread seems more contrarian really. There's plenty of interesting open worlds. And if you can't enjoy any of them, why not go outside. I've been exploring the capital of my country with great interest. The mixed architecture is interesting.
Gavin Foster
Revelation is heavily underrated. Everyone talks about whether 2 or Brotherhood were the best but no one even brings up Revelation. Some parts were shit, but at least they didn't take away from the original formula. The setting was unique and fresh, the combat had more interesting weapons and techniques, armor and weapons became more integrated, not every other mission was It was an interesting time period in Ezio's life, the only things I say that were actual trainwrecks in the game were the ending and the rooftop commandsim horseshit. Other than that, solid 7/10 game. Best in the series, imo.
Adrian Wright
Plus revisiting the original assassins base from AC1 during winter as Ezio was really neat and I got a slight glimmer of a feel when you find altairs corpse and ezio talks to it.
Evan Evans
I live in Washington state, and grew up in an area called the Key Peninsula.
Shit was the middle of fucking nowhere in a goddamn no-place corner of a very undeveloped state, at the time, anyway. Forests all over. I romped a fair bit as a kid, and it probably chilled me a fair bit, since I'm very quiet and unassuming in life.
I guess it'swhy I like wandering around Minecraft and shit.
Jacob Hernandez
Agreed, and it also had a badass trailer if as well Embed related, exposed me to a very talented musician named Woodkid who did the music for the trailer Honest to god, Assassin's Creed would not have the shitty ass reputation it has today if it hadn't Perfect wrap up to the series. Apple is retrieved, continues to be hidden but only in legend, no more installments. Ezio dies peacefully later on and the series ends. A beautiful story wrapped in a bow, with an acknowledging nod to its predecessor in AC1.
Ayden Robinson
AC would have been an amazing series if the people currently working on it never got the job. They needed to have more time between titles, they needed more variation in settings and eras between each game, they needed to not get so carried away with the apples, ayyliens and current day shit. And of course the 'multi-culti team' that just ended up with the pozzest of pozz working on the series absolutely killed it for me. During brotherhood I started to sympathize more with the Templars than the assassins and by the end of revelations I realized that the writing ended up being "everything I don't like is because of Templars. Everything that doesn't fit into the writing teams world view is ebul"
I keep wanting to give 4 a go since I like pirates and anons claim its breddy gud but I can only imagine that its more 'dum templars lmao' shit
William Mitchell
They're lying to you. Like every AC after Revelation, its mainly filler content. I guess if you want to play it for pirates yeah it could be cool, but that's it. Assassin's Creed: The 4th one that is the same regurgitated shit but with pirates ayy lmao. Also, no Desmond/Plot story outside of the animus. IIRC it's just a random Abstergo guy who they throw in the animus because I've only played about 90% of the game so I can't say for sure. Also, Pretty sure most competent people agree with the Templars.
Nathaniel Reyes
Gothic Dragons Dogma
You would need to get either randomly generated map or map that pretends to not be randomly generated, aka Daggerfall. All of game developers still use same strategy in terms of creating a game world. Make content and stuff it into copy pasted villages, each 100m from another. Besides Daggerfall there were no games that had some actual space between stuff, just for the purpose of having some realistic distance between things. You will also run out of content in everything pre-created.
I must agree. Fallout3 was decent open world game. You could walk around and find interesting stuff.
Jackson Diaz
I fundamentally disagree on DD being open world game. It's as open as Diablo 2 is, with added verticality.
Gavin Brown
It is open world technically. It has one level you can walk everywhere you want on level one. Of course problem is it is very much not open world in terms of quest structure which only leads you on to certain are of the map and you have no real freedom in which order you are doing them.
For me one world level is qualifier for game being Open World. It fails to design itself as Open World but really it doesn't mean game is badly designed and OP is "Good open world anything".
Dylan Long
Entry points between locations ruin the feeling, you can see "invisible" walls from meters away.
Aiden Lewis
The Division
Jeremiah Williams
If you've played the ship missions in III, then you're not missing out on much of IV. They just took the ship combat and made an entire game out of it, and threw in slightly more features. For instance, instead of a "assassin managing sim" where you send your little pupils out to the ends of the earth to fuck someone's day up, you now send ships with various types of cargo through trade routes. If the ships make their journey, you get cash and other rewards. It's basically the same shit from III, but slightly less annoying, because the journey times are relatively short, and people on your friends list who also have the game can speed up the process for you by donating to your ship or something, like some facebookshit. They also threw in some battleship type mini game in which you command a fleet of ships and do battle with opposing forces. This helps clear trading routes, which are marked by how dangerous they are. You can also capture enemy ships to add them to your fleet. This probably the most fun part of the process, because you're actually able to board a ship, slaughter the entire fucking crew, and commandeer it for yourself.
Aside from all that, it's just III but in a tropical setting. You can even tell they reused a hell of a lot of assets from III; Edward has the exact same killing animations as Connor, for example. As for the plot, you play as a silent Abstergo employee who is tasked with using the Animus to "research" Edward's memories. Edward is a Welsh faggot who ran away from his wife to go be a pirate in the hopes of making his fortune. He gets caught up in the Assassin/Templar fisticuffs when he takes a job that leads him to attack a band of assassins. His employers are Templars, they lead him on about some magical artifact they need to find, and some faggot called The Sage who is the only person capable of using it, blah blah fucking blah.
If I remember correctly, Edward is the sage, he uses the crystal skull or whatever the fuck to open some ancient alien device that can predict the future, and he uses it to help the assassins claim the majority of the Caribbean for themselves. I don't know if that's right, it's been a while since I've played. Meanwhile, Minerva is running around inside Abstergo's servers or some shit, and this terrorist faggot tries to bomb the place in order to help her find a body to inhabit or some shit. Honestly, who cares about the story.
Zachary Gomez
You guys are gonna call me a faggot for this, and i agree to some extent.
Asscreed 3.
I loved the fact that the open world felt alibe, animals, enemies on patrol. Cities and forest were created in such a way that i wanted to go explore.
Nothing is more fun encountering a british patrol in the middle of the forest and slaughtering everyone with a huge marine axe.
Story was shit though.
Brandon Long
I should probably throw in my suggestion of 7 Days To Die
I modded out all the special infected and just treated it as a roaming game, never setting up camp in one spot and just roaming from town to town
Evan Baker
I mean all the games are bad, but the reason people talk about those two is because they at least have a nice setting and you can die. In Revelations it is literally impossible to die during combat. When you're brought down to your last bit of health and the screen starts going black and white, a guard will not attack you until you're out of that near death state. As soon as you get out of it they'll hit you again, but then it will go right back to waiting for you to be able to survive another hit. It's fucking trash and you should be ashamed of liking it.
Aiden Campbell
Sounds like the same issue with GTA IV to be honest.
Jacob Howard
I never knew about that because i've never even come close to a death state in any the AC games i've played. The only time i've ever died is from misjudging a jump and falling to my death, and that increasingly became a non-issue in the later ones since you'd grab onto anything at any speed without any penalty
Parker Hernandez
Black Desert Online
Adam Bennett
It's cold comrade user, and you look like you need some space vodka.
Dylan White
The only redeeming feature of the series is its parkour mechanics, and even then they're only tolerable because not many other games let you climb every surface you see. Actually, I'm pretty sure BoTW is gonna outdo AC on this level. CLIMBABLE BOSS FIGHTS
Angel Wright
Tippity top kek, i recall there was a M&B rip-off (the combat atleast) in Chine with World of Tanks progression system and waifu generals. I think the name was Tiger whatsitcalled
Dylan Phillips
Well the series is turning 10 years old this year. Also climbable boss fights aren't anything new Shadow of the Colossus & Dragon's Dogma did that years ago.
I've noticed more people talking about ass creed lately though, probably shills or the combined release of the film & the free legit copy of the third game last month might be to blame. It did get me to pirate the ass creed 2 trilogy to see what the series was about though.
Christopher Myers
Boiling Point: Road to Hell GTA series ARMA series Morrowind Fallout: NV Just Cause series FarCry series STALKER series Elite Dangerous KSP Dwarf Fortress AssCreed: Black Flag
Jordan Bell
fuck open world games
Brayden Watson
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Luke Morgan
Do those games let you climb every surface? I'll never know because I didn't own a PS2 and my PC is too shit DD.
Nolan Ramirez
too shit for DD*
Liam Hughes
Does Pokayman count?
Chase Hernandez
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Brody Williams
Not an excuse. It's possible to get a course of injections that will cure that these days. Sage because this thread is already complete: go the fuck outside.
Luis Thompson
Most places outside are either freemium or off-limits though. As in, cool ass state parks you have to pay to get into and they don't let you climb every mountain. The outdoors suck shit, user. You should kill yourself for even suggesting it.
Aaron Brown
The outdoors are great. If you want me dead, come try to make it happen, you fat cunt.
Nathaniel Turner
Good luck taking hikes in flat ass woods you don't even own, good goy.
Caleb Martinez
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Carter Barnes
Well now I just can't take your posts seriously, anymore.
Liam Turner
...
Justin Sanders
I'm gonna help him drag your prissy bitch ass out of the rotting tree trunk you live in and stomp your shit in, good for nothing wood elf.
Kevin Lee
trespass in my woods and you might catch a .308
Camden Lopez
lol no range. 6.5 Grendel will rape that little boypussy of yours.
Jayden Carter
not an argument friendo, nice try at making OC, though keep making me fucking laugh
Noah Lewis
Sure it is. You are going to list of an endless revolving door of reasons you don't want to go outside, rationalized backwards from the conclusion which was formed by other factors which you will never actually tell anyone because they embarrass you. The game for you is to distract me with the "reasons" until I become fatigued, because no matter how many I would refute, it would do nothing to address the actual reason, which is tied to your very existence and cannot be changed by my words. I know it, you know it, and it's boring. You are pathological and nothing you say has any meaning.
Parker Lee
You sound like a humongous faggot who over analyzes everything.
Hunter Barnes
Nah, I've just dealt with fat retards like that kid before. The entire universe apparently conspires to stop them from going for jogs in the park.
Caleb Bailey
Morrowind
Henry Evans
...
Dominic Robinson
Let's have a real conversation for a sec. aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/09/09/aje.kwt135 The reason you can't think of anything more interesting to do than walk in straight lines when you're outside is probably because you're a fucking retard lol.
Bentley Rivera
There are no monsters to fight outside. You can't even go fast wherever you want. Outside has barely any fun content.
Mason Anderson
Monster fighting is the indoors analogue of hunting, to clarify the causality you're trying to confuse here, go off-road somewhere, and the last point once again comes back to your own inadequacies in mental and physical ability. Having ceded that outside isn't a walking sim without even fighting it as you will no doubt instantly cede this, I'm going to draw a line between the two points and say it trends towards reality, i.e. the furthest point away from your position possible.
Luis Phillips
Yeah, shooting some deer that don't even fight back is totally like taking on monsters in a dungeon.
Austin Evans
No, what you did is list legit arguments and then look at them under false premises like "lol ur obese" and disregarded them. That's not an argument.
I don't have enough money to go anywhere worth my time, and all I've got in my yard is a few acres of woods and a big boulder. I'm tired of taking jogs around the area I live in, because I've seen the same shit over and over again. It's not like I can venture too far off because I live in the country, and if I step on somebody's property by accident, I'd get shot.
It truly is amusing how you keep trying to shift this from an angle of smug intellectual superiority like a Redditor but every post you make just makes you sound more and more retarded.
Keep posting, I like being called obese. It's a nice testament to NEVER FUCKING EVER.
Christopher Kelly
The closest vidya-like experience I've ever come to in real life that wasn't Minecraft or The Sims is when I fucked with some midget kid in middle school, and he immediately jumped about-face, raised his fists, walked side to side and kept trying to punch me in a pattern.
Reminded me of Morrowind.
Josiah Butler
Go shoot a bear or something if you want it to fight back.
They aren't legitimate arguments, they are made up bullshit. Directly deny that you're obese or just take it like the bitch you are.
Andrew Barnes
Sorry it took me a while, user. That was a good one. Happy b8ing.
Dylan Moore
Yeah, because that's always legal. Give it up, user.
Dominic Hughes
Give what up? Trying to increase your IQ and decrease your weight with words over the internet? Your ego is astounding.
Ethan Torres
Innawoods is pretty fine open world.
Jason Scott
Rust is the perfect open world game.
Robert Jackson
Sorry user but stupid large player guilds have fucked up Life for all of us. I'm not going to play that shit game unless I find a few friends to play it with
Noah Green
You can play old versions with the official launcher now, so you'd just have to get your friends to be willing to play the old version/agree with you.
Matthew Adams
Speaking of, are there any good innawoods threads happening anywhere ATM? Or greentext stories would be good too. I'd like some comfy spoopy and/or survival reading. Polite sage for off-topic.
Joshua Roberts
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Owen Scott
San Andreas, Ultimas, Wizardries
Hahahah, no.
John Watson
And Might and Magics.
Camden Thompson
One of those games where it's so bad, it's good.
Dylan Young
GTA IV was more confined but less polished. Neither were as great as SA was for me but nostalgia goggles might blur my reasoning here.
Joshua Cox
What do we mean by open world though? There's a lot of ways it can be pulled off, see: Dwarf Fortress, Mount and Blade, Daggerfall, etc. etc. All pull open worlds off differently, which implementation is better is for you to decide.
Eli Thompson
It's not that it is bad, it's just that the budget was spent in all of the wrong departments. Voice Acting and small details took over the Animating and Cutscene departments, then the executives meddled to have tacked on zombie shootin' gameplay to the whole thing and Swery's team just half hassed it enough to be playable AND easy, with lots of infinitely respawning items. The game is platinum tiers of comfy, I'm fairly sure they tried to capitalize on the comfiest aspects of DP when they made D4, except no one bought it because
Asher Lewis
DD is fantastic and is one of my favorite games of all time but holy shit its open world sucks.
Kayden Scott
Asheron's Call was probably the best implementation of an open-world. It seemed to be built on some sort of flight-sim engine using SQL as the backend. The zones were divided into subzones; with the subzones divided onto many servers in a cluster. You could see for miles, and there was NO loading between adjacent subzones when travelling. Hell the only real "load" screen was when you used a portal shortcut to travel across multiple subzones, and it was just a ~5 sec wormhole type animation.
Too bad Turbine lied to us. They just shut it down, and never released the server install so we could run our own.
Juan Torres
ITT: Fat faggots triggered over the idea of going outside