Duel Ladder Monthly event. Duel other participants on maps within a map pool. All skill levels welcome. This aims to help others find duel partners and improve. Currently there is no event for January.
If you're the first one on the server, announce in the thread so thread lurkers know when to join.
Mid-week there may be polls for playing times so we can all get together at the same times for larger scale matches. They will be marked with "Schedule Poll" in the subject.
IRC The North American Holla Forums server has an IRC gateway to this irc channel that reports status when people are playing. Additionally, idlers on IRC can chat with players. webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=xonotic.na
While these chatrooms are available, keep the thread as the main method of communication as chat services may be disagreeable to other posters.
Movement Tutorial A circle jump offers a boost of starting speed and is the start of a usual CTS run. The webm is missing a few bits of important information. Going in a direction using one of WASD without jumping or moving the mouse provides only 320 qu/s max. However combined with moving the mouse laterally (creating a circular path), this maximum speed begins to exceed that amount (max 480 qu/s). To do a circle jump, reach a high speed on the ground then jump to preserve it from friction. The numbers are from the defrag mode and will be different for fragging, but the concept is the same.
For strafe jumping, a common thing among new players is to frantically wiggle the mouse back and forth without properly aiming at that angle. The best acceleration is based on an ideal angle, not on direction switching. This ideal angle will be farther from the center as velocity increases. Direction switching is mainly for repositioning, avoiding collision with a wall or falling off the map.
Gavin Sullivan
First for console shooters are casual trash.
Evan Garcia
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Zachary Morgan
Also reporting server activity.
Kayden Flores
4 players on right now
Ethan Moore
This guy showed up again.
Charles Carter
Second for popamole has always been a tumor in vidya.
Gabriel Stewart
Maybe a lot more.
Colton Jenkins
I'm the best 1v1 insta ctf player here. I've beaten the likes of Bear, muffin, totally cool and splat.
Ian Wilson
ayy
Kayden Cox
When I play cts I'm respectful to all players, when you are in instac ctf land, I am the king so show some respect. I am trying to be humble.
Nicholas Sanders
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John Bennett
I'm on the server with toublerone. Also that guy again is showing up daily.
Parker Ward
Also about 3 people joined right after I posted that. So at least do post when you're the first on the server. Because it'll look dumb when I'm the only one doing that.
Evan Barnes
CLAPPING INTENSIFIES Going to be on for a few hours. Lets make Xonotic great again!
Henry Flores
Also this is the run I fucked up the other day.
Christopher Long
No. This one is. That one is the actual completed run.
Jeremiah Butler
Something tells me picmip is not always a good idea…
Samuel Wright
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Joshua Martinez
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Cooper Cook
Tonight we mark a momentous occasion. Our new best instactf player of North America, aiea. Our instactf queen.
Jason Rogers
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Kayden Cooper
keeps crashing so I'm joining you guys
Nathan Cooper
Best Xonotic song right here, this is an undisputable fact
Jayden Perry
blkrbt best composer in general, caht dang he's good
Gabriel Wilson
Who the fuck is this guy and who diddled him when he was younger? I'm going back to , there was less cancer when I joined a few weeks ago.
Juan King
He only just recently started showing up. I'm sure he'll get bored and move on soon enough.
He's also this faggot
Brayden Gonzalez
He's "That Guy" in and Like a boss in and master in and moot in previous screencaps
and generally some fag with a huge ego ("I'm the best American minsta ctf player") from 4chan. He doesn't play well and a lot of the regular players would beat him by a large margin, but he'd still be able to beat new and untrained players.
As the screencaps of the in-game chatlogs will show. He's been beaten by another player at insta ctf and is mad. Trolling him has been easy, but I see he is being a nuisance to others not aware of him.
Hudson Perry
Also he doesn't post here. That post was probably a joke on him.
Ian Price
Yeah i thought i was going to be on longer but i may have been drunk and passed out. Also i need to start going to bed by 7 or 8pm EST so i can get up at 2 in the morning for work. I'll be missing out on the active hours for the server, feels bad man. I'll try to keep the thread bumped though.
Jace Howard
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little bitch? I'll have you know I'm the best insta ctf player, and I've been in involved in numerous flag captures, and I have over 300 confirmed frags. I am trained in using a Vaporizer and I'm the best insta ctf player in the entire North American Xonotic community. You are nothing to me but just another frag. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of flag carriers across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, faggot. The storm that captures the pathetic little thing you call your flag. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my Vaporizer. Not only am I extensively trained in using a Vaporizer, but I have access to the entire line of the grappling hook and I will use it to its full extent to drag your miserable ass off the face of the map, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Kayden Bailey
Server has crashed and has been restarted.
Justin Wright
Nice shitposting.
Joshua Russell
Requesting that wesp-kaine, pornstar-savare, and lovet-fourteenth be added. Also that mini and 9-ball duel me. -THE WORST
Sebastian Murphy
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Ayden Moore
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Ryder Wright
So I totally forgot to do mappool voting so for brevity we can just carry forward the underutilized Dec pool and vote for Feb starting about a week from now.
I'll update the doc tomorrow
Mason Wood
Does anyone know if the speed buff is an acceptable replacement for haste in cts? If it is, we can force it to spawn instead of shield.
Jonathan Rogers
All the current times on the server were done without haste. Additionally they're doable without it as well, though they are hard. It'd be easy to simply spawn haste if the leaderboard can be separated.
Juan Allen
Quickly found pornstar-savare and lovet-fourteenth. Couldn't find wesp-kaine. Upload it on to vola or something.
Liam Moore
You all sound like fags
Ian Johnson
Checking those dubs of asspain. Keep crying bitch nigga
Zachary Perez
tfw we're all crammed in here
Noah Wilson
Also I noticed some rusted players, or those who play to play occasionally, showing up recently. I think it would be nice to have some organized retraining sessions (or plain training). It heavily relies on you guys showing up however.
Noah Thompson
Reflex actually got an update that added matchmaking. Didn't feel like making another thread for arena fps
Adam Parker
Remembered to actually do it today.
Nathan Garcia
Even a duel on 24 feels cramped; a 7 person deathmatch sounds like chaos.
While I think that matchmaking is certainly a step in the right direction, considering how big a skill difference in between two people can make in a duel, I question how effective it'll be, considering how small the playerbase is.
Evan Green
It was. I got a lot of 3 in 1 kills with a Mortar that match.
Anthony Thompson
Server right now. Also the developer is visiting.
Grayson Thomas
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Oliver Gutierrez
mini vs The Worst soon. Long weekend so far but fair amount of activity on the server and hubs. Duels on Hub Kansas right now.
Austin Wood
The result of Worst vs 9-Ball was resolved about 2-3 days ago. Played on Aerowalk and Finalrage, 9-Ball victory, 2-0.
Bentley Edwards
hehe
Ian Miller
-where do you live -what connection speed do you have -what network adaptor for your computer do you have -etc
Ryder Perez
Status quo remains the same, but I have duuru footage this time
John Richardson
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Carson Reyes
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Joseph Morris
Should I start namefagging or stay anonymous
Matthew Parker
Rural Canada, 450kbps max download speed, wireless connection to the ISP instead of fibre or something similar, wired connection to router. Now that I think about it, no wonder my latency for everything is so high.
Jaxson Ross
Might as well namefag on the server. No reason to not allow yourself to be identified there.
Jose Lopez
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Nolan Hill
This actually happens a lot.
Nicholas Wright
Namefagging is the cancer that kills all good things, I never use the same name when I join the Holla Forums AAO server and I wouldn't use the same name twice in this game if I didn't have to go through menus to change it.
Adrian Taylor
You can use a console command name "Your Name" alias them, and store them all in a cfg to then switch on typing in the console.
Asher Green
Easier to help you learn/give feedback if I can actually figure out what your habits are. There's definitely a place for anonymity, but it has its downsides as well
Plus the server has been running with a core of namefagging users for quite a while now. I think you just have to have a game or group unpopular enough that the turbo-cocksuckers pass it by
Oliver Wood
9-Ball challenging Mini and Beemann.
Logan Williams
When are you going to be online? I'll be on today and can duel from about 5:30 (Pacific time) onward
Luke Martinez
hey bby u want sum frag?
Levi Morgan
I'll probably be available in the evening.
The duel with Beemann is done, I ended up losing 0-2.
Ethan Allen
Retard
Charles Lee
that's some plebbit-tier shit
hardcore linuxfags are an exception to the rule
Adam Sanchez
CTS leaderboards for the NA server can now be viewed online in an organized way. To browse, put "?map=" with the map name at the end. Additionally, you can see your ranks if you supply "?player=" and your client id fingerprint.
No javascript or cookies are used for the web page. Also it's still a work in progress, so you might get a 503 if I'm currently working on (breaking) things. It's not directly synced with the game server, so refreshing right after a run does nothing.
It needs a bunch of under construction gifs like it is the '90s
Jonathan Ramirez
Xonotic got ruined by defraggers
Luis Harris
You mean the game as a whole or just the server?
Brody Fisher
Well whatever you meant by that. You're in luck because of the usual defraggers that play on the server, they're playing on another server with a larger map pool. It was never the case that the server was on a "fragging" mode, and suddenly a storm of defraggers come in to mode vote to defrag. In fact, it was the opposite where if one person joining in, wants to play another mode, the rest of the server that was playing defrag respects that vote and the idea that the server wasn't only for defrag.
If you're in the camp that wants to play Deathmatch, etc, then the server is largely open for you to go in and vote the mode in. Months ago, I got complaints about defrag being too popular, and the simple solution is to at least assert what you want to play by voting. You may see a single person on the server playing defrag, but that's also because its the only game mode that's playable solo.
Samuel Long
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Nolan Ramirez
As a regular on the server I can confirm this is true. You just have to speak up and most everyone will be fine doing playing another gametype.
John Wilson
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Cooper Scott
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Aiden Bell
I swear to god, people vote this for the music.
Juan Cooper
7 people on the NA server right now
Adam King
we have pic related players online
Robert Russell
I'm downloading right now I played Quake Live and CS 1.6 5-7 years ago, I'm not good but I was decent back then. God knows how good/bad I am now.
Justin Mitchell
Reminder to link a Mokou to the devs if and when you ask for tech support.
Alexander Morales
A what
Hudson Anderson
Take this. You will need it.
Eli Campbell
Oh
Alexander Rogers
3 maps added to the server: pornstar-raven pornstar-simplicity pornstar-simplicity2
Additionally, the frag limit for duel has been removed and the starting time for CTS has been increased to 20 minutes.
Jack Miller
Also quick reminder that the ladder is going to be set up for Feb soon. Let me know if you want to participate, and if you already are participating let me know if you have any nominations
Levi Evans
I am on the server with toupeka. Also there is a new non-cts map called bleach. Right now there are two versions, one that is darker with a fuck load of mega pick ups, bleach-b1
and other one that is not as dark with less megas, bleach-b2. It's a big map that is probably good for ffa and tdm, but not really for duel.
Carter James
we're babysitting two kids
Jacob Lewis
Any ausfags able to vouch as to whether or not there's a single filled server for Straya?
Adam Flores
Not Austrailian, and I think most of the posters who play this game are in North America (since for the longest time, the North American Holla Forums server was online).
None of the servers are filled 24/7. There's definitely some consistent Austrailian players around at the night time (1 AM PST = 8 PM AEST). A few of them occasionally visit the western US servers.
Hudson Robinson
downloaded it today, is there anything I need to know? Is this just quake clone?
Josiah Flores
It's definitely Quake/UT inspired. Differences between it and Quake (off the top of my head) are as follows
There's altfires. They're quite important, especially if you decide to use the electro
Rockets can be steered HL2 style if you hold m1 after firing
If you've played Q1 or CPM, you'll be used to air control. If you're a Q3fag, you can now do CS style bhop in addition to normal strafejump If you've played Q2 or CPM, you'll be familiar with double jumps Xon doesn't really have these outside of one or two step up jumps because of the way stairs are handled. You basically glide up them quickly by holding down jump. On the flip side though, ramps are fantastic. Just make sure you're jumping into the ramp's angle and not bouncing off of it
No armor tiers. Instead you can stack up to 100 with 25s, 50s and 5s, but you need shards and mega armor to go above that. Damage reduction value is something like 70% iirc
Both megas have the same 30s timer. Mega health respawn is tied to pickup, not to damage or reduction to 100h like it is in CPM
You wont be using LG. Main 3 are Devastator (Rocket) Mortar (Grenade) and Vortex (Rail). Vortex has a charge but it doesn't make much difference
If you swap weapons after firing, you cancel the reload time of the weapon you just fired, so vortex->mortar->shotgun->vortex can result in more damage than vortex->vortex over the same period of time
You have 2 spawn weapons. The shotgun has a melee altfire (70 dmg) and does about 40/45 damage on a full spread. The other weapon you have is a blaster, which is as close to free rocket jumps and ever-present knockback capability as you can get without fucking the game up royally. You can usually get a rocket jump in for about 15 damage
You keep your speed through teleporters as long as you're moving forward, and I mean all of your speed, including vertical. It all becomes horizontal when you exit
Lucas Wood
Quake and UT are like the opposite of each other. Quake is a fast arena shooter, UT is a slow one.
Brandon Murphy
If you're going online, just say that you are in the thread and whatever thread lurkers that happen to be around may accompany you.
Additionally, if you go onto the Holla Forums NA server, sometimes you can catch someone playing Race CTS, but if you want to play Deathmatch or something just say so. Race CTS can be just something to do while waiting for other people on the server, or to chill out and chat. It's silly to say so, but vote what you want to play on the game mode vote menu which appears at the end of the match. It was a common thing for players who wanted to play Deathmatch, to not vote Deathmatch, and complain to me when others vote Race CTS.
Isaac Allen
I wish we had general arena shooter threads
Jack Evans
What exactly do you like about arena shooters and which one is your favorite? I am playing UT since ages and even I think it's overrated as hell.
They are not bad, definitely fun, especially when you turn your music up high and just jump around and kill shit. No waiting times, no map change or other bullshit, just frag. But it gets repetitive fast. I think everyone who still likes arena shooters is either autistic or lying and never played them back in the day.
Because I honestly think a lot of people who claim arena shooters are good now are people that heard the first time of it like a year ago but cant play because almost all of them are dead.
David King
Arena shooters tend to be fast-paced, have interesting movement options, and can get highly mental. On a basic level, it's just running around a sort of boxy or angular map picking up weapon after weapon and shooting dudes (which is great fun for players of any skill), but at higher levels it becomes a game of area control and denial with elements of masking your movement/sounds made. This is very much enhanced by whatever movement tech the game has.
1v1 deathmatch is the most popular mode for higher-level play, but I seriously think that team games like CTF and the like are highly underrated and underplayed.
Cooper Taylor
What makes you think I only play free for all deathmatch? UT99 was all about Team CTF and Assault because those was the only mode that allowed boosting. UT3 had tank crossing which was my favorite objective map.
But after considering all UT is still a very slow game compared to others.
Jose Roberts
Then go make one.
Robert Price
hey kiddo you're gonna get le fragged xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd you fight just like kali! DONT cry it's a waste of good sufferring! DON'T CUT MY DICK OFF YOU'RE ON MY TEAM (EVEN THOUGH FRIENDLY FIRE IS ALWAYS DISABLED)
Lucas Smith
if anyone is playing the game please post a heads up in here, the only servers that have more than one player are modded ones that let you have TWO GUNS
James Sullivan
2 hours ago I was sleeping, but if you want to play I can in about 30 minutes.
Ryder Ramirez
I'm on the Holla Forums server just hopping around for a bit.
John Clark
I'm with this guy.
Jack Wright
NUCLEAR BOMB ON YOUR GAY FACE))
Joshua Hill
i was playing kshootmania to kill time, checking out the Holla Forums server now
Austin Garcia
to the kind user trying to teach me how to strafejump: connection to the server shit out for me without warning
Jackson Gonzalez
Sorry about the technical issues, its the server's side. I'll see if I can get it resolved quickly.
Luke Gray
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William Perez
For more tricks on the Fuse map by the way.
Christian Lewis
It takes some mechanics from both. I'd say it's more on the Quake end than the UT end though, especially with XPM. There's a few mods that swing it further towards the UT end, like one that adds a UT-style dodge
Out of curiosity, what don't you like about Xon?
Caleb Cooper
It's like we're all together like one happy family. Also game developer mad at the server admin ping.
Hudson Stewart
poal.me/qwq2p1 Poll created. Let me know if I missed a map
Connor Richardson
To be fair, any remotely popular AFPS thread devolves into OW shitposting and similar things. Xon is blessed(?) with a very inactive general so almost nobody actually bothers shitting up the thread.
Jordan James
Today was quite eventful. It great to meet some new players. Additionally, any new players caught up in the action are welcome to ask for coaching, or any assistance in the process of improving.
Cameron Martin
Maybe next time, guys.
Christian Thomas
So here's the current setup for Feb. If anyone wants to join up, let me know by end of day tomorrow and I'll add you to the list
When you do go on the server, post in the thread. Someone lurking in the thread might be able to catch a game with you. (not enough people do this)
Jason Stewart
requesting loads of matches on boil and webms of cool frags.
Christian Hill
Fun.
Brandon Watson
Any new(ish) interested in some duel learnins? I'll be available from about 5:00 Pacific time onwards. Post in the thread and we'll see what we can do. The more people the better your experience will probably be (because you can fight them and not me)
Ryder Roberts
new(ish) players* this is what I get for posting from a phone
Offer is still open though
Jose Watson
This weekend for sure. Just have to get my mouse from my house.
Carter Butler
When I do races on the server my speed is slower than normal. Is it because of my high ping or is it something on the server?
Charles Fisher
Race physics are different from the normal mode. The speed from regular running is decreased and there's less acceleration from just holding forward and jump. The speed cap is lifted, and to reach a meaningful speed you have to strafe jump.
Nathan Nguyen
2 players on the server at the moment.
Elijah Nelson
What the fuck is going on?
James Allen
A bunch of laggy european players decided to join the most populated server at the time or something, I guess?
You can get a surprising amount of players to show up. So long as you have 2-3 people to start with, the server can sorta explode like that. It's why the server owner is so anal about getting people to post in the thread when they're there. It helps to kickstart games.
Juan Davis
I want you niggers to post in the thread because I'm OP and so I don't end up being >(109) by doing this
over the course of a month or so.
Robert Murphy
2 people on the server
Jacob Baker
when do people most active
Jaxon Ortiz
asking because I'm in now and want to get better (Pacific server).
Jacob Hall
Late afternoon to evening is the usual play times throughout the week. Mornings are uncommon, but it happens.
Alexander Bennett
I can be on in about 2 hours from now and give tips.
Charles Perry
Fuck it, I'm on now.
Aiden Sullivan
2 people on the server right now.
Christian Richardson
I'll be on the server again in about 30-40 minutes and will stay until somewhere from 9-10 central. I'll be free to give tips or duel people during that time.
Brandon Brown
Back on again, and I'll be there to help new players or duel old ones for a few hours.
Robert Adams
gonna hop in for a bit but not for anything super serious. On a setup that isn't exactly the worst, but is just enough of a downgrade to be annoying
Hunter Jackson
2 clips from duels that happened earlier today, 1 clip from a duel from November that was the levitation I was talking about.
Cooper Morris
muckin about in the server practicing jumps on boil at the moment
Nolan Sullivan
By the way, after playing it on HUB I think we should probably swap over to the newer version of Boil for both ladder and general use. I's about 10% scaled down so it's not quite so finicky to do some of the jumps (though you have to crouch now for one jump)
Yes, we're in for a lot of changes. I joined the SMB clan. SPLAT is now the server admin and host. sawa started capitalizing her name.
William Gray
As it turns out, trying to impersonate someone who has a sensitivity of 2cm/360 is an exercise in futility.
On a much, much more relevant note, 9-Ball challenging Beemann.
Jayden Perez
On an even more relevant note, I'm in the server if anyone wants to hang out/prac/ask questions
Jordan Hall
I've been posting around clips of Komier and sawa's duel. Since I was spectating the down player and looking for comebacks, I mostly got Komier's frags. But I think there are some cool frags sawa did that I didn't catch.
Jaxon Long
I've started running a friend through Xon boot amp and have come up with some exercises to practice and maybe GIT GUD with. A lot of them are just FPS fundamentals but most don't require another player. Let me know if there's an area you'll wanna practice/improve on and I'll list out the training idea I have or try to come up with one
Also I'll do a doc update tonight if I remember
Michael Long
Boot camp* fuck
And yeah basically it's not necessarily the 100% most ideal way to improve, but its sort of a blunt force method for specific improvements or for people intimidated by duel/dm At least that's the goal, we'll see how it goes
Juan Bailey
I'm always down for improvement. What's on the menu?
Dylan Torres
so they're very much new to the genre, and not terribly experienced with FPS' as a whole So I started them off with
Circlestrafe around a focal point while keeping your cursor on it Find a buddy and do a similar sort of thing, but while they also move around Practice blaster->mortar combos
For movement they've started off with nr_grid strafejumping and doing loops in the Finalrage main room (you can just hold A and turn and get a decent circuit going along the top floor)
At some point I'll also throw in the ones I do myself, which are: Move through maps without stopping, changing up routes as necessary. When one side gets too comfortable, do it the other way. When that gets too comfortable, see how much of it you can do sideways/backwards (I don't do the last one quite so much)
While running around on maps, start cycling items. Start with the megas, and gradually work other items in. On a map like Mint (where there is no MA), cycle the large armors. As with the previous practice method, try going through sections in multiple different ways, including sideways/backwards.
If there's a shot you see in a video or match, or even that you pull off once or twice, toss that into moving around the map. It might help to bring a bot or another player in, but some of them you can just practice hitting at running speed. Aerowalk has a few good rebound shots and wallbangs. I also like skimming mortars along the upper floor from mega to hit people coming off the jumppad or trying to run through that door to get to the devastator
Basically the goal is to get a lot of that shit into muscle memory so that you hit the scenario where it's needed and just do it, rather than consider doing it and potentially miss the opportunity. Anything involving aim, however, is going to have diminishing returns, whereas movement stuff will only grind to a halt if you aren't strafing properly, and you can watch cts/xdf/defrag pros to get a good idea of what a better method looks like