Is he right, Holla Forums?

>>114930706>but can you even imagine if Nintendo, Hasbro, Disney, whatever all started litigating the owners of porn of their characters?They haven't, and they won't. It's just as simple as that.

>>114930874I don't mean to say they would, but that first post said furry porn is self sustaining. If they didn't have the ability to draw porn of copyrighted characters the furry fandom would be incredibly, incredibly niche.

>>114930908I guess I meant economically, fandom members tend to support each other monetarily. I do see your point though.

>>114930848maaaan you talk like a faggot, write long posts like a faggot and comprehensive reading of a faggot. I could reply to you but I don't another (you) from you. Thanks

>>114930373I thought we all knew furries have been propping up the internet artist economy for years.

>>114930960Your post was barely even comprehensible, man. I'm just trying to understand what you're even saying at a basic level, but I can't, because you type in broken english. Sorry.

this is the comic about the big titty butterfaces right

>>114930373Post more Florida Man.

>>114930526This. As much shit as they get, furries are basically the only reason 2D artwork continues to survive as a medium in the current day. All those fancy shows and indie animated films you like? Every artist involved had to suckle from one of those 8 furry teats to make rent until it came out.

>>114930373this but replace furries with jews

>>114931255Jews aren't commissioning sexy portraits of cute hasidim with enormous hats as far as I know.

>>114930526This is a lot of words to justify the existence of people who have sex with dead animals mainly puppies.

>>114930753Cyberpunk games are going to be glorified VRChat, aren't they?

>>114930373>>114930526see also this comic

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>>114930373Full comic.>>114930400Hiro's a dude 100%.

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>>114931048Fine, I'll do it myself.

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>>114931332See, this is the kind of perspective you get if the only information you have comes from the internet equivalent of a supermarket tabloid.

Hello, based department?youtube.com/watch?v=oRIyw-pJkUk

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>>114930848The difference between having 100 $1 bills and 50 $20 bills.

>>114931451>>114931457How do these people have so much fucking money to spend and masturbate on fucking porn.This should be labeled a mental illness.

>>114931734Considering most of them have autism, I think already does.

>>114930526And they played a big part in anime making it to the west.

>>114931734I probably spend a couple hundred bucks a month on comics, because I easily have that much walkin' around town money and it's the only hobby that I need to spend any significant amount of money on. And there are plenty of people who are more well-off than I am.If I was a furry and instead spend all of that on furry commissions, that'd be a lot of pictures every month.

>>114931734From what I've understood on Holla Forums and other 4chan boards discussing it, typically it's a combination of them being stuff like engineers, programmers, etc. and them using most of their money explicitly only on their hobby, i.e. buying furry art, which allows them to use more of it. Imagine all the money you spend on vidyagames, comics, or what have you just goes to artists doing stuff for you instead.

>>114930373I agree, but I'm kind of weirded out by the fetish community and their relationship to artists. I don't really know how to put it in words. Furries are fine, but I'm half-certain people like the wonder bread guy just get off to the idea of making someone draw weird shit, rather than the actual content of said weird shit.

>>114931734Why, what's wrong with it?

>>114931859No, he explicitly gets off to it. He literally used to/possibly still does come and post about it, avatarfagging by posting his commissions. He's talked about how California where he lives is shit, his therapy sessions, his views on environmentalism, etc.

>>114931859It's part of human nature that a subset of people want to spend a lot of money on art of their fetishes. Before furries, it was nobles and the Vatican.

>>114931859You're probably right in some cases but that guy is a legit insane faggot, he would post about his fetish here in any thread he felt was relevant for a long ass time.

>>114931676THE HEFTY 2 TON BALLS ON THIS MAN!

>>114931187That's less an endorsement of furries and more a very depressing measure of how bad it is to try to make a living as an artist now.

>>114930373I owe furries nothing

>>114932072>nowAre you for real? Making a living as an artist has been seen as a joke for centuries.

>>114931676Based brian swords of york.

>>114931451>you could if you weren't a fucking cowardok that slayed me

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>>114930373No.

>>114930373The same can be said for porn. But no one wants to admit that porn is a great money making industry.

>>114931829>it, typically it's a combination of them being stuff like engineers, programmers,> engineers, programmers,How the fuck do these damn coomers have such high end jobs?

>>114933315Doug winger was an aerospace engineer.You should recognize that name as an artist with an endlessly large and lengthy career of making furry smut.

>>114930526Yeah, but they also fuck roadkill...so...

>>114931734Most of them have full time jobs and being a furry is their only hobbyYou ever work with someone who doesn't drink, doesn't smoke and doesn't go out on weekends, and you just think, what does this guy do to unwind?He's a furry

>>114930526This smells like bullshit but Holla Forums makes all sorts of lazy excuses to jack off so, sure. Let's go with that.

>>114930373Well yes, you cant be a deviant without having money, Furries are especially a privileged bunch.

Furries that sexualize the animal part of furry art are awful; however transhumanism is on the horizon and the more technology progresses, and as soon as we're exploring deep space, you're going to start seeing non-human humans popping up.I'm okay with that, but sexualizing animals is a shitty thing to do.

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>>114933921It's pretty easy to be deviant with F-List and a free copy of Photoshop CS2.

>>114934079if you know how to draw

>>114934079>F-listWhat a hell hole.

>>114934138Just editing existing pictures for consistent attributes is enough.

>>114934173Most people don't have the talent, this is why deviants spend serious money on their fetishes. A bunch of those artists are not into it, but there is demand.

>>114930373>its almost as if furries do a great deal to support the independent art community.Wrong. Furries support their own community, and they don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Furries pay the furry art community for materials for themselves or status, like with fur suits or art of their characters. Furries carry who they get art from or suits from as badges of honor, I know some who will only RP or ERP with people if they've commissioned art of their character from specific artists.Also as a porn artist I know personally that furries who commission art specifically are just pathetic people funneling all their money into their fetish even when it debilitates them. They even go so far as try to commission art to try to make relationships with other people or the artist themselves. It's very pathetic. It makes sense when you think about how much they hate themselves that they'd rather imagine being a cuddly cartoon character in a sort of setting where everyones friends with each other / fucks each other, because they're massive losers irl who are also disgusting human beings.

>>114931457Who's the big titty Frankenstein girl though?

>>114933315It takes a fucked up mind to jack off to animals, and program a spaceship.

>>114934470Supporting the art community for shitty reasons doesn't invalidate that they are in fact, supporting the artist community.You do know they also commission non-furry artists too right?

>>114934470How much do they pay for commissions? I know they can even pay 10k on a fursuit.

>>114934505

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>>114934537Depends on the artist. I've seen ref sheets go for 300 dollars and some full character shaded pieces go for 50.

>>114930373If every furry alive right now suddenly vanished, the entire internet would collapse because that would include most of the oldfag programmers on 24hr call to perform crucial maintanence on obsolete servers that everything passes through

>>114934470Yes because I'm sure your boss pays you out of the goodness of his heart and not in exchange for your labor. Furries have an incredibly large demand for commissions. Any artist worth their salt can get easy consistent work from them.

>>114930373>>114930526>>114931187Jesus Christ, someone resurrect old Holla Forums to do away with these roadkill-plowing cretins

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It must be soul-crushing to be a competent artist and having to draw animal dongs for a living.

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>>114934682Work is work. You draw furshit to pay the bills, and use the rest of your time to work on your passion projects.When I still did furry commissions I only had to work an hour or two a day on furshit in order to keep on top of my bills. The rest of the time I could work on the stuff I really cared about.

>>114934543Does he know this was already a thing?

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>>114934528>>114934610Did you two even read the comic panel? It describes furries as doing some great deed, going out of their way to support starving artists and how we should be in their debt for how supportive they are. They aren't.>>114934537The price of a commission can vary a ton, it really depends on how much the artist is willing to charge. My things tend to be 90+ generally and I never have trouble finding work. I've had a lot of people tell me I under charge.

>>114934528>Supporting the art community for shitty reasons doesn't invalidate that they are in fact, supporting the artist community.Yeah I dont buy it. Something tells me that if I waved a magic wand and "the furry community" suddenly became "the white power community", and frumpy neonazis singlehandedly made up the largest piece of the art commission pie, you would not be defending their faggotry "because it supports the independent art community." You're just a dogfucker trying to run damage control. And before I hear some bullshit about how white supremacists are uniquely evil or violent or whatever, we have a mountain of proof that furries abuse animals, engage in necrophilia and operate little mafias to relentlessly bully people off the internet.

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>>114934668"Old Holla Forums" was just a bunch of 13-year-old introverted bullies on the internet who saw an easy target in a subculture that they could easily pick on for being "weirder" than they were. Sorry you never grew out of that, but most people did.

>>114934793>furry trying to tell someone they never grew up

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>>114934761>And before I hear some bullshit about how white supremacists are uniquely evil or violent or whatever, we have a mountain of proof that furries abuse animals, engage in necrophilia and operate little mafias to relentlessly bully people off the internet.You could cherry pick the worst outliers of literally any subculture and claim it represents the whole. Fuck off with this retarded bullshit.

>>114934828If it happens and nobody apologizes for it, yes, it does represent you. That's how a zeitgeist works.

>>114934733He isn't the brightest supervillain out there. She did marry a ghost twink though.

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>>114934761Okay. If I waved a magic wand and wallmart was suddenly only sold human shit they wouldn't be as useful either. Hypotheticals are for retards.

>>114934877>Supporting the art community for shitty reasons doesn't invalidate that they are in fact, supporting the artist community.Your fundamental "argument" is more retarded than anything.

>>114931734I make 2200$ on patreon and about 1200$ from commissions each month drawing furry and human porn.I can tell you that the most people asking us for stuff are people with good jobs like programmers, engineer and military who are simply smart with their money. Most normies spend a good 300$ to 500$ a month at restaurant or bars, if your hobbies don't include socializing you can easily save that money to buy 2 to 8 drawings of your favorite characters.Alternatively, it's people living with their parents spending every last cent on furry porn. Those people are usually unstable and mentally ill so it's better to refuse them or pretend that your commissions are full.

>>114934894>selling a service for money is somehow badGo back to china commie.

>>114934793Furries deserve all the hate they get

>>114934918>drawing neon anthropomorphic animal people shitting on each other & enabling unpleasant degenerate subcultures on the internet is worthy of respectI didn't even have to mention fucking roadkill to make you look like an irredeemable fool.

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>>114934935>roadkillI still cannot believe they did that, but the furries always proves me wrong.

furry "art" isn't art, it's porn. it's porn made with the techniques of art, but porn nonetheless. furthermore, the vast majority of it is porn of other people's creations, i.e. pre-existing IP, which makes it even less valid as "art."i have nothing against porn, i mean i fap to non-furshit porn plenty, including rule 34. but i'd rather we just stop kidding ourselves into this delusion that porn is some downtrodden artform. it's not art, it's a tool. it serves a purpose, and rarely transcends that purpose, which is to titillate. it is fuel for a satisfactory masturbation session. that's it. it is, in fact, among the most utilitarian "art"forms, like graphic design on the freeway or the police sketch of a suspect's face. so any grander claims are made by people exhibiting cult-like behavior, embarrassed by how much of their lives they've devoted to fetish porn, whether funding or creating, and so desperate to prove to themselves that it hasn't been a waste of their life and dollars by declaring it a virtue instead. and as william shakesman said, they "doth protest too much."

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>>114934537Depends, most beginners charge between 15 to 35$ for a full piece. A good artist who's commissions slot fill up as soon as them open them will charge about 75$ to 150$ per drawing.Then you have the big boys legends and animators who can charge anywhere between 500$ to 9000$. The current record I believe is 9540$ for a 1min frame by frame animation by Fuzzamorous

>>114930373Anyone have the strip of Hiro getting kidnapped by the artist who wants him to critique their work? I can't make heads or tails of Doc's titles.

>>114934996>B-but it's not art because It fulfills a need and as an audience willing to pay for itUsing lots of big words doesn't make your shit take any better, retard. Any form of expression is art whether puritan fuck like you want to accept it or not.

>>114935141Found it.

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>>114935206This art is really bad

>>114934957Furries or not, a hole's a hole.

>>114935226IS HIS STYLE!!!!!!

>>114935206Thanks, I tried digging through so many chapters but I never remember what major story arcs are near what standalones.

>>114935237Not entirely applicable since the guy that makes it fucks with his style a lot. The comics from just a year or so look totally different.

>>114931457youtube.com/watch?v=k-6FYdTDn4k

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>>114934848I have to apologize for the actions of another because they masturbate to the same kind of porn as I do? Because I have to browse those discords since tumblr nuked its porn?

>>114930373Nah, this is a cope.You can argue all day about the money, but I don't think most artists would choose drawing dog dicks over drawing other shit they actually like or are passionate about. Literally the same kind of coping that porn actresses do when they describe themselves as performers.

>>114931451You don't even need the furry aspect.You can make quite a bit of dough with lewds all the same.