>DC makes Batman a father>DC subsequently makes Superman a father> DC doesn’t make Wonder Woman a motherExplain this...

>DC makes Batman a father>DC subsequently makes Superman a father> DC doesn’t make Wonder Woman a motherExplain this Holla Forums.

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>>114873969Womyn having children is a Patriarchal construct forced upon Womyn

>>114873969Because a pregnant woman going around and fight crime would be irresponsible of her

>>114873969In some iterations Supes gets Diana pregnant.

I can't see wonder woman raising a child.

>>114873969Does Wonder Woman even have a vagina?

>>114873969>5000 year old woman

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She should adopt a boy. Maybe have him be the son of an Amazonian who secreted him away out of fear he'd be killed. Would add an interesting dynamic to introduce a male Amazonian.

>>114873969Imagine if Wonder Woman had a son

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>>114874043maybe amazons cauterize their vaginas shut

Because it’s fucking retarded.. Only Supes should be a real dad since he’s from farmtown, USA and just wants to to be a regular dude. The other two have life missions they should be dedicated to and should be super busy.

>>114874043She has 11 inches of natural she-cock

>>114874067>>114874068Wonderboy?

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>>114874059I see. So the prime time to guarantee impregnation is when my partner is zero years old.

>>114874142Except if Batmans the father, then it would be Boy-Wonder.

>>114874146IT'S AWWWWRIGHT

>>114874142

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>>114873969It would be boring to see her make a statue and ask the gods to give it life

Amazons can’t get pregnant. They make their babies out of clay.

>>114874142>WonderboyWith or without YoungNastyMan?

>>114874142Make him twinkier and shota-ier so he can go with the Super Sons.

>>114874171I wish I could not get this joke.

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>>114874225I don’t get it. Explain to me please.

>>114873969Okay, so they made Batman a dad and had the kid be a total cuntwad who later went through character development to be only a snide, egotistical asshole. They gave Superman a son and despite it being one of the most well-received moves they made with Superman in years they had him handed over to his insane grandpa, tortured for a decade, then show up as an asshole. Now with that in mind, think about how DC usually treats Wonder Woman; what the fuck do you think is going to happen to that kid?

>>114873969Since Diana's been retconned into being active since WWII, let's bring back Fry Lyta as her daughter. Fuck Neil Gaiman, he shouldn't be able to dictate whether or not DC can use her and her husband becase he appropriated them for Sandman.

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>>114874250It's a horrendous heresy. There was a page from a jap doujin that featured a guy rapping a baby in front of his mom while screaming 'BABY F**K, BABY F**K, IT' S AWWWWRIGHT'.Was used for lulz and reactions about 10 years ago. The image is nowhere to be found now, and i'm glad.

>>114874413More like 15 years ago

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>>114874413>censoring the word fuck on 4chanthank god you will die from crotch infections soon

>>114874142Cute

>>114873969Superman and Batman are motherfuckers

>>114874413>The image is nowhere to be found now, and i'm glad.yeah, rightdesuarchive.org/co/search/image/0ejWNOInrcCrUO4hP_APIQ/

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>>114874483Mind you, i censored the word because my soul refuses to put it next to baby. I not even mad at your retarded statement.

>>114874040>I can't see wonder woman raising a child.she raise the daughter she had with Superman pretty good

>>114874549Oh, how tactful of you to correct me in this degeneration. Mom must be proud.

>>114873969Frank Miller proves to be the only real based and redpilled DC writer once again

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>>114873969Scissors only cut the line

>>114874564>Mind youit's the hrt withdrawal, isn't it?

>>114874959Yeah. Just be careful with that edge so you don't cut yourself.

Nothing makes liberals angrier than a happy mother cooing over her little angel while the proud father looks on

>>114873969He tribe are weirdo extremist rednecks that shouldn't be trusted with raising children.

>>114873969Superman's kid got to grow up (not talking about Bendis shit) to writable/character age off panel while Supes wasn't being written. Damian was introduced old enough to be a character. For obvious biological reasons the same can't be done with Wonder Woman. If she has a kid and she isn't out of the books for any length of time then the question of how in the fuck the kid is hers (if he shows up as already a kid instead of a baby) without any AU BS is going to be huge. DC isn't Marvel they aren't cucked enough to have pregnant women fighting

>>114873969>DC makes Batman a fatherYou dare call him that? Damian's mother drugged him to conceive Damian, goaded him into raising Damian, and broke him mentally. Damian was never his son.... only a burden.

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>>114874142I keep hearing this name in Jack Black's voice because of the Tenacious D song.

>>114875041Nice to see anons are still delusional shut-ins who are only informed of how other people think with retarded social media screencaps of people who don't matter.

>>114875168Exhibit A

>>114874012could always retired for a short time like Sara did

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>>114875233>Wonder Woman>Being Retired for any amount of time>Being retired to have a baby specificallyAnon the shitfest that would cause would tear DC a new anus

>>114875273just use 5g to give a legacy character the book for a little while, DC has done it before.

>>114875321>He still thinks 5G will happenAnon...

>>114875273It's dumb sidelining her just to bring some shit ass kid into the story people will get bored of after the novelty wears off. Hell I consider Damian a mistake and it's not even because of his personality. Batman doesn't need Damian. Wonder Woman doesn't need a kid. Both are superheroes, one is a CEO, one plays politician. At least in Batman's case, he's the man, so he can just leave Damian with Alfred or something all day while he's consumed with work and yet I still don't like it.

Would a potential Wonderboy be a bigger cunt than Damian thanks to all his Amazonion Aunts spoiling him?

>>114875498They’d probably treat him like shit for being maleLike a girl in a chinese or arab family

>>114875498Either Amazons will kill him or will take off his dick and call it a female sincr they have no idea on what chromosomes are

>>114875139Based

>>114875273Retitle the book "Wonder Women" and bring in associated WW characters (Donna, Cassie, Hippolyta, Nubia, Artemis, etc) doing the physical superheroics, switch back after a few arcs. It'd really be no different than Morrison's B&R, except you still get to keep Diana in play as a character.

>>114875567>>114875603Are you sure they wouldn't try to fuck him instead?

Children are used to soften someone's image. Softening a female icon in this current climate would only damage the character and how people interpret it. Also they'd just turn the baby into Ares somehow.

>>114875690Yes but that won't stop /ss/ posters from cooming

>>114875723Not to mention feminists are getting angry about female characters end goals having to be mothers and homecarers. Having Wondy with a child in main canon would just FUCK NIGGERS

because it will make audiences realize that Wonder Woman let someone cum inside her

>>114875885>would just FUCK NIGGERSIs this some kind of reverse filter?

>>114874059She's a goddess born from Zeus user, the laws of biology don't apply to her.

>>114874059and she's more dumb than batmanoh, i see what these writers are doing

>>114873984Exactly, making Wondy a Mother lowers her value as a woman

>>114874067Does her twin brother Jason still exist?

>>114875907I think user has Tourette

>>114875723>>114875723If they need to soften the character, then maybe they should just make her less of an overly aggressive bitch to begin with.The character is popular in the DCEU and in the DCEU, she's pretty chill, they just made her like the mother of the JL flock, and she tries to sort out everyone emotionally since Batdaddy is too busy drowning himself in alcohol and pills.

>>114875690Depends on who you ask>Azzarello>Yes they would rape Wonderboy and take off his dick just for forcing him to eat it>Perez>No, and Amazons can't have childrens on their own since they're golems with souls of dead women.>So Wonderboy would be the soul of an hermaprhodite since it's the only way he can born "male"

I remember a few years ago, there was storyline that revealed Wonder Woman had a brother, Jason I think. Whatever became of that?

>>114876341Rucka ruined everything and now they're not twins but step brothers

>>114873969You know what, don't even make her have a child the normal way, make her sculpt her kids from clay

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>>114873969jewish witch is trying to suck out the babies soul

>>114876764Heh. It's kinda weird that it seems they can't agree on how much they want the amazons to be like their greek counterpart. One minute they reproduce by sleeping with nearby fisherman and get rid of the boys, another they are magical golens, one minute they still have sons and can be okay with man, another they despise the very notion of XY chromossome. No one can agree on anything.

>>114874142Don't like the tiara or the cuffs, but great design! Pretty sexy.

>>114873969I've always thought that Wondy should be the mother of a daughter just like how the other two are fathers of sons. It'd be pottery.

Why would you want any child to be raised by such a shitty person? Do you hate humanity that much?

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>>114876764No. James Robinson twins. Rucka wanted to retcon the Zerus origin but DC wouldn't let him. Subsequent writers are just pretending Jason doesnt exist, helped by the fact Robinson dumped Jason into the Dark Multiverse before he left.>>114877330>>114876178>>Perez>>No, and Amazons can't have childrens on their own since they're golems with souls of dead women.>>So Wonderboy would be the soul of an hermaprhodite since it's the only way he can born "male"There is nothing in Perez about the Amazons not being able to give birth. The Bana Mighdall are the descendants of the amazons who didn't go to Paradise Island in fact. How ignorant of Wonder Woman's lore are you? You idiots have no idea how the clay origin of the Amazons is actually suppose to work. It's just like most mythological creation myths relating to the creation of the first humans being ,made out of clay/dust of the earth. They're first generation humans made by the gods, not animated statues or "golems". Seriously people like you who don't understand the clay origin frustrate me beyond belief.

>>114878068>James Robinson Kept them as twins. Rucka wanted to retcon the Zerus origin but DC wouldn't let him. Subsequent writers are just pretending Jason doesnt exist, helped by the fact Robinson dumped Jason into the Dark Multiverse before he left. Fixed. Was too pissed over the second part to check over the first.

>>114878068>The Bana Mighdall are the descendants of the amazons who didn't go to Paradise Island in factIn fact they aren't like the amazons of Wonder Woman

>>114879100The point is they're the amazons and their descendants who decided to hate and wage war on men in response to getting raped instead of joining Hippolyta and her group who decided to become shut-ins in a tropical lesbian commune.

>>114874068Already happened and he was raised by Superman

>>114874771Her partner gave her a special baby-protecting energy shield, plus she was supposed to be on maternity leaveNot her fault she got waylaid in the maternity ward

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>>114873969That is a pandora's box you DON'T want to open. It is a plethora of bad stories waiting to happen.>Steve can't have a career anymore and becomes Mr. Mom>Diana has to retire>Diana is absent from her child's life to save the world, thus breeding resentment from her family>Diana is benched for at least nine months>"Your child is the chosen one, Diana">Olympus family drama>Child used as a hostageReally the smarter move is for Diana to be a foster mom.

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>>114880342>>Steve can't have a career anymore and becomes Mr. MomIt doesn't have to be Steve Trevor.It can be Trevor Barnes

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>>114880342>Steve can't have a career anymore and becomes Mr. MomHow is this bad? Nobody cares about Steve anyways. If Trevor can't be a stay at home parent, then she should try to hook up with Superman.

>>114874012Hear me out, what if, get this, Diana sculpted a baby from clay, and had it brought to life by Zeus. Crazy concept, I know.

>>114880829>How is this badBecause then Steve can't do anything fun anymore>Ship her with SupermanOh I talking to a complete fucking moron

>>114873969Wonder Woman should try to raise a son on Themiscyra, that would make an interesting story.

>>114880669more like Trevor Black

>>114880829We just had that a bunch and it sucked massively like it always does.

>>114880904you seem to think every couple has a stay at home parent nowadays

>>114881022I'm not saying that, I'm saying its an open invitation to bad stories and cliches. With Jon and Damian it wasn't really an issue because they skipped those early years, and neither of their parents had to stop their careers. So the problem with Wonder Woman having a kid is either fucking the timeline even more, or both Steve and Diana always calling a sitter which then begs the question why even have the kid.

>>114873969cause no one knows where the fuck wonder girl comes from

>>114881093IIRC, both Clark and Lois had to make massive changes to their lives when they had Jon. You're assuming that you have to have Diana and Steve in play in the same story at the same time which is wrong.

>>114880829what? lois is still a journalist

>>114874210the fun super sons dynamic is dead user, bendis made sure of that

>>114881232Yeah but the situation is different here because neither Clark nor Bruce had to be on break for 9 months. That's not even factoring in the time Diana would need to recover or nurse the newborn. Furthermore, Diana isn't really a city oriented hero unlike the other trinity. Unless of course you want Diana to be fighting crime strictly in Washington DC so she can be close to home. I'm not saying it can't be done, there's just a lot of thought that needs to be put into it

>>114881329Post-Crisis she was active in Boston, then Gateway City (aka John Byrne's Boston), then Rucka moved her to NYC. Post-Flashpoint she's pretty consistently been depicted as living in London though I'm not sure if Rucka changed that.

But OP, if you read a comic you'd know that Diana is everybody on Earth's mom.

>>114881395Orlando has had her move back to Boston recently.

>>114881395Okay what if we make her a NY hero, and her job as at the United Nations? There's still a lot to iron out but grounding her in one location is a start. But then again Superman was still able to do stuff around the world, though he has super speed. How fast is Diana's Invisible Jet again?

>>114881298Jon can be fixed and reset. It easy enough to do. Don't let Bendis get away with it.

>>114881509As fast as the plot requires.

>>114873969She's barren.

>>114881539during whatever bullshit that resets this, a ten year old girl appears, turns out she's wondy's daughter from another dimension's dead wondy. there, you get a kid plotline without it having to be a baby first

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>>114873984This

Damian shouldn’t even exist. Bruce should only have misfits and orphans under his care because his parents died and left him alone.

>>114881615That's a host of negative implications right there.

>>114881615love it, i can already imagine the "you're not my real mom!" moment that would be bound to happen.

>>114874771What a shitty mom

She has already been a foster mom in the last good Wonder Woman run

>>114881093>I'm saying its an open invitation to bad stories and clichesbecause Wonder Woman is doing so well right now

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>>114881093if you're going to make a fucking kid out of clay and getting it blessed by a god, why not make it old enough to be a kid sidekick? you're making this more complicated than it needs to be

>>114882064You do know that clay shit hasn't been canon in years, right? Also excuse me for actually putting thought into such a dynamic shift in status quo instead of blindly going in like a dumbass

>>114882120really? too bad

>other superheroes have kids>"dude it wouldn't work for wonder woman because then how would you write it?"just write it like a normal person and not a sperg who can't fathom the idea

>>114882257Buddy, didn't read a single thing in this thread? It's a complication that naturally requires more thought into it than what you're spinning it as.

>>114882010Based and mompilled

>>114874142>WonderboyI remember that thread.

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>>114874210make him their chad older brother who always picks you up from after school club

>>114873969Because she'd be better as an Onee-sama.

>>114882257Only Batman has made it work.

>>114873969Just make a poly Clark-Diana-Lois relationship and so Lara is actually half amazonian-kryptonian and John a half human-kryptonian

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nice

>>114874076i think he meant because she's made out of clay, user.

>>114873969The clue is in your first two statements. They made Batman a father. They made Superman a father. Naturally, they haven't made Wonder Woman a mother because they're trying to figure out how to make her a father.

>>114874059>>114874146All I can take from this is no one understands women's reproductive organs.

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>>114880342>Diana to be a foster mom.That is why I liked the OG Vanessa Kapatelis. Diana started as a big sister then ended up as a mom (delicious drama with Julia). I know many people don't like it but I was blown away when she became the Silver Swan. Diana failed her "daughter".

>>114882784Batman didn't make it work, he just handed off his kid to other people.

>>114883959Thats much better than what happened to Spuerman sons.

>>114878054why they do this kind of shit with her ?

Motherhood is something modern feminists hate because it's hardwired into their biology. It takes them back to the need to find a man and be "burdened" with a child.

>>114884454Good luck the current Wonder Woman's writer is a male feminist

Is this a planned pregnancy or is she just so wet for cum that she lets Steve empty his load inside her?

>>114884454Yeah and Wonder Woman is supposed to be the feminist icon superhero

You want her join in on being a shitty parent, too?

>>114873969Because Didio fucking hates kids. There's a reason Damian was almost killed off and Jon was aged up ASAP. Now that he's gone we might have a chance.

>>114884350It's because her and Superman have shit chemistry so they turn her into Injustice Woman-lite to create tension. You need to contrast and have a pull/push effect to create an interesting dynamic to write about it in romantic relationships in order to sell it.The first thing people usually bring up about them is they're pleasant people and get along, but since when has that ever meant you would be an interesting couple? Even on a platonic level, they're miles behind the World's Finest as a duo, to most people. They honestly don't even share a lot on a fundamental level either when you really think about it. It's all power levels and how they wear blue and red.

>>114873969When writing female characters that appeal to boys it's best to leave them single so that boys can self insert themselves as their love interest. Having a child would break that.

>>114875139Batman is a rape survivor

>>114887786Anime does this a lot. Women should be pure as can be.

>>114874068Is that a black incel?

>>114878054Fuck, that was almost painful to read.

>>114873969Modern feminists see pregnancy as a sign of sexism and stripping of female power and agency. Being a mother is bad in their eyes.

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>>114874068I want that TLJ shirt.

>>114873969She's already a mother. A really REALLY shitty mother and should feel bad. dc.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter_Prince_(Justice_League:_Legacy)

>>114889166Whoops.

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>>114887744Tension and opposing viewpoints is not required to write a good relationship, or even a good character dynamic, you just need them to disagree on some things. The easiest thing I can think of is a difference in approach to helping people better themselves, with Superman believing that all you need to do is provide a convenient and consistent example for them once they've decided to change while Wonder Woman believing you need intervention and reinforcement to keep people progressing towards their goals.

>>114887744the fantasy of taming the savage amazon

>>114873969Canon she's a shitty mom. JLU she's a great mom, but then again it's probably because she has the best baby. youtube.com/watch?v=YAFLtrFmOlEWhy are the "roster is turned into kids" episodes so damn good for DC? >He totally said "Bejeebers."

>>114889166>>114889392Hunter is from a no longer existent alt-future.

>>114889512Well then, if she WAS a mom, she would be shit. How's that?

>>114873984Christ can you not turn it off for like five minutes?

just have more daughter/mother moments with Diana and Hippolyta

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If i was wonder womans babys daddy i would beat the shit out of diana just so i can drown out the cries of the baby with dianas screaming in pain. I would take the used diapers and shove them straight up dianas cunt until they rot her womb so she can never conceive again. I would make her breast feed while i squeeze her tits with a plumbers wrench. I would make her squash peas for baby food then slam her fucking face into the kitchen counter filled with green goo. Then on sundays we would go to church and i would make her confess to being a dumb bitch mother. Then i would out her as a danger to our baby because of her crime fighting life and get full rights. Then i would give the baby to joker.

Summerfags

>>114878054>Wonder Woman BAD>Superman GOOD

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>>114874170That'd be a good elseworlds idea

>>114874413>There was a page from a jap doujin that featured a guy rapping a baby in front of his mom

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>>114881615You know what would be better? It’s her daughter from the future. Pull a Future Trunks and just have a warrior girl/boy from the future that has the best of both Steve and Diana, and is trying to prevent some kind of disaster. Due to Hypertime, the kid can stay without many issues. Make it all dramatic when he/ she has to return in case it doesn’t work out. Done. Now you have a time traveling Amazonian kid that can pop in and out whenever you want in case staying doesn’t work out.

>>114880841So she conceived a child with Zeus her father?

>>114875459you're right. the most wonder-womanly thing she could do in this day and age is die, alone, without any children. she'll inspire a generation

>>114873969Part of the agenda, like everything in media nowadays.

>>114887744>behind the World's Finest as a duowell, as chemistry goes batman and sups have best one from all the western comics. So its kinda unfair comparison.

>>114893262It's different for gods.

>>114874099Dubs of truth. I cant see Batman or WW being parents in mainline books. Mentors, sure, but not parents.

>>114878054Is this nu52? Cause fuck that shit.

>>114878054>>114892021>>114895289This has been retconned

>>114895313What? The Supes/Wondy relationship? Good riddance.

>>114878054She's unironically right though.

>>114880265dude what

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>>114874106actually grinned like a retard reading this

>>114895370You said goodbye to it 3 years agi

>>114895593Whats the new timeline like? Is it any good?

>>114895786Meh....Azzarello's one was better

>>114895827Azzarello was pretty good cause he did his story and didn't let the shit happening elsewhere leak in to his run. It had its downs, but yeah, I miss it.

>Batman got broken>Superman diedSo what could have DC do to WW? Rape?

>>114880265Is this implied abortion or something?

Because shes made out of clay? No wait,that was 2-3 reboots ago.

>>114873969Because the people making the comics are mostly dads now, and they want the comics to reflect their own lives because they're self-absorbed. It's that simple.

>>114874142>WonderboyWhat is the secret of your power?

>>114896154Homosexuality

>>114874142The head circlet is cool. Gives me journey to the west vibes.

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>>114887786>>114888241That's just pathetic.

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>>114877245But is her daughter.You faggot.

>>114879182But that is DC retcon fault.For virtua signalling SJW.

>>114881445This.

>>114887786But that's retarded.

>>114890542Edgy as fuck.

>>114893381What agenda.

>>114874012yeah but it would be hot

>>114875139His only son's for me was Grayson, Todd, and Drake

>>114874413Let's not forget the baby fucker was the President of the United States

>>114883361Why not have her contribute her magical superdna to some girl who wants to give birth to Wonder Woman's child? I mean, in that superhero universe where space travel, time travel, cloning, genetic splicing, artificial intelligences and alien versions of it are possible, surely making a hybrid of two females ought to be easily possible.

>>114874170That's actually pretty good.

The plain fact is that, unlike the other two, Diana hasn't had a consistent love interest in a long time. Who would be the father? Not Steve Trevor, he hasn't seriously been with her since pre-flashpoint.

>>114899576Have you read the rebirth era, he is her predominant love interest

>>114899596And they broke up during wilson's run and aren't together right now.

>>114896629Wrong Fury, that was Lyta's>>114874367 retconned mom post crisis. Who was later retconned to have went crazy and was taken in by Hippolyta and the Amazons.I really wish they could bring both Helena and Lyta back.>>114896729You don't know shit about what you're talking about.

>>114899596They have never recently been together long enough to have a baby between them make sense narratively

>>114874012Silly. Diana will make the baby from clay when she is ready to.

>>114873969Men are obsessed with the reproduction of their own shitty genetics. Pregnant WW isn't their fetish and Diana would be a good mom and keep her kid on the mascara. Limits the drama and shenanigans writers can play with unless they wanna get ooc

>>114874295Let's all take a moment to be grateful she doesnt have a kid

>>114874639The ugliest fucking kid. It looks like a man.

>>114875139Get off of 4chan Tim

>>114900530Babies are all ugly, dude

>>114900530He cutie

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>>114873969she's a clay golem. she's infertile.

>>114900616>she's a clay golem.Let it go, boomer.Daughter of Zeus

>>114900616Once again, that's not how the clay origin is suppose to work. Read your mythologies. The first humans were all made from the dust of the earth. There is nothing wrong with her or any other amazon's ability to sexually reproduce.

>>114900675Gas the zeus

>>114900530>>114900602>implying anything being a result of Supes and Wondy would be anything but pure shiteISHYGDDT

>>114900842>>114900923Daughter of Zeus, grow up boomers

>>114900988Jon maybe not...but Lara is a fucking semen demon

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>>114874639who's the father?

She has a stealth baby in the next movie

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>>114901036>user doesn't knowThe father is Superman, unironically Superman.Short story, Diana and Clark fucks because their powere level are similiar in the Millerverse

>>114901015Who are these 2 retards?>mfw they look inbred

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>>114900993Literally every standalone out of main continuity work uses the clay origin, except Earth One. Which has Hippolyta use amazon superscience to reverse engineer Hercules sperm to artificially impregnate herself.Then you combine that with most writers who've written Wonder Woman in the rebirth era saying they dislike the Zeus origin and mostly choose to ignore it as much as possible.Give it up Nu52fag. Nobody seems to really support it. They downplay and ignore it, and it's probably on it's way out.

>>114901150>Rebirth used it (until Rucka)>WW: Bloodlines uses it>the movie used itCry harder.Daughter of Zeus

>>114901143The inbreed look is just an artstyle.And they're Lara and John Kent, daughter and son of Superman and Wonder Woman from the Frank Millerverse.

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>>114873969Wonder Woman is a wank fantasy and a whiny shit machine plus stretch marks and a C section scar or ruined Vag are instant turn offs for all men.

>>114901413But you can cater the preg fetishists then

>>114874059That could be be a weirdly good argument though, she got rid of all her eggs already...

>>114874068>>114879364Yeah it was a recent Justice League arc.

>>114901377Man, the Supes and Wondy relationship was pure cancer in TDKSA. Why did DC decide it was a good idea to explore it further.

>>114901302Rucka, Wilson, Orlando and Tamaki are on recird as saying they hate it.The movies barely reference it, and you can take alternate interpretation Zeus brought her clay doll to life instead of fucking Hippolyta, and the gods are downplayed heavily in either case. They're all dead in the DCEU and they don't appear in the DCAMU at all. And Patty Jenkins is also on record as hating the Zeus origin.Nobody involved in an official capacity speaks out in support of the Zeus origin any more. Every stand alone or mini uses the clay origin.It's on it's way out.

>>114889116>>114873969It's kind of a paradox though, because they're always trying to show Wonder Woman as being this incredibly loving person powered by love. She's been super soft lately, so naturally that should lead to children and mothering instinct but she doesn't have kids yet. Plus I'm surprised she hasn't had a "DEATH OF" yet either. She dies here and there but hasn't gotten the big solo arc about it.

>>114901579>Plus I'm surprised she hasn't had a "DEATH OF" yet either. She dies here and there but hasn't gotten the big solo arc about it.We already talked about it.Millar joked about >Rape of Wonder Woman storyThen he said "No I was joking lmao!" and we didn't got a "Death Of" for this reason

>>114901471That's got to be a pretty small margin versus ruining her forever.

>>114901560>Rucka, Wilson, Orlando and Tamaki are on recird as saying they hate it.Still canon.>The movies barely reference it, and you can take alternate interpretation Zeus brought her clay doll to life instead of fucking Hippolyta, and the gods are downplayed heavily in either case. Eh....they literally said that she was Hippo and Zeus's daughter, there isn't a double subtle sense>And Patty Jenkins is also on record as hating the Zeus origin.I need a source on this, just for curiosity

>>114901696she catered bondage fetishists.Some preg will not hurt

>>114873984>>114889644they're not wrong, you can't be a mom and a hero because the former takes away from the latter. It'll be seen as making her stereotypical and soft. Literally every superheroine who became a mom basically disappeared from mainstream comics except Invisible Woman and F4 as a whole has remained largely unpopular with the mainstream.

>>114901549It's from an elseworld.Elseworlds have the elseworld's excuse of not being canon. But in TDK Master Race their development is actually good. And Golden Child is unironically kino

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>>114901579Nobody cares about the death of Wonder Woman. Hell the death of Superman means less and less to people with every passing year because Superman himself a figure of great and possibly terrifying power and to tell people that the world NEEDS Superman is something that makes people pause because of their distrust in those with power.

>>114901651We got a Diana is temporarily replaced as Wonder Woman arc in nineties. twice actually.The first one was where Hippolyta fired Diana as Wonder Woman and replaced her with Artemis.Second was where Byrne killed Diana, she then got resurrected and kicked up stairs as goddess of truth, and Hippolyta took over the mantle her self.The reason she doesn't have a "Death" or "Knightfall" proper is because she never has more than one solo book, and her sidekicks don't warrant solos(and her side kicks tend to go through things where DC tries to distance them from Diana as much as possible, looking at the post crisis version of Donna), and their team books(for her and her sidekicks) don't give a shit about being involved.

>>114901749The whole superkids needing growth from evil to good is based on shitty characterization of WW. If Damian being raised by Talia has a moral compass thats aligned better than you'd expect, theres no reason why the child of either Supes or Wondy would be such a fuck up.Literally every interpretation of a Diana involved with Supes, both elseworlds and in continuity, has be terribly compromised. And Miller's is probably the worst.

>>114873969Wonder Woman has sidekicks, doesn't she?

>>114902172Wonder Womans sidekicks literally exist to be girlfriends to their Batfamily counterparts.

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>>114902264So I guess they are just colleagues or co-workers and not family. I don't know, I don't read superhero comic books. I plan on getting more manga, though.

>>114902264>mfw the Batfamily and Wonderfamily start breeding

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>>114896105No

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Well I imagine she's not a mother because amazon's don't have men in their culture there's some versions of Diana that's just straight-up a lesbian which honestly would make sense.

Instead of having Wonder Woman become a parent how about a storyline where Cassie takes Wonder Woman's mantle for a while (like Dick becoming Batman)?

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>>114902488What does Diana do in the meantime?

>>114902343>>114902264I wish.

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>>114902581Play the mentor? Recover from some injury (a la Batman)? Who cares? Just give Cassie something to do since she hasn't been interesting since Young Justice.

>>114875131>For obvious biological reasons the same can't be done with Wonder WomanYou're thinking about it in human terms. >Diana, the gods have decreed you must bear a child>And if I refuse! >Too late, I, Hera, had yoinked one of your eggs while you slept and had it inseminated. You're a mom now, and he grew to 10 years old in a day because god stuff. >Who the fuck is the father?>Blah blah blah, can't hear you, take the kid and raise a hero or something. >...fuck

>>114902488>>114902684Diana - BatmanDonna - DickArtemis - JasonCassie - TimJust as well they didn't give Wonder Woman a daughter or she'd be whored out to Damian.Hell, maybe Damians looking at the rest of the Batfamily and thinks Hippolyta will give him an Amazon concubine on his 16th birthday.

>>114874068>TLJ is not canonsaid no one ever. The entire sequel trilogy on the other hand...

>>114873969>> DC doesn’t make Wonder Woman a motherShe's made from clay, OP. She's basically a golem.

>>114902684>for a boy

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>>114902969So you're saying Wonder Woman is a carbon based life form... just like humans?

>>114902938>she'd be whored out to Damian>implying she wouldn't be his baby step-sister>implying he wouldn't get to play Dick to her DamianAnon...

>>114873969Has Wonder Woman fought The Wall yet?

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>>114874142Now where's Nasty Man, arch rival and nemesis to Wonderboy?

>>114901910>The whole superkids needing growth from evil to good is based on shitty characterization of WW. If Damian being raised by Talia has a moral compass thats aligned better than you'd expect, theres no reason why the child of either Supes or Wondy would be such a fuck up.John was always good thought.Lara was bad first only because......it's the Millerverse....and here either you're a cunt or you're god

>>114902938>Just as well they didn't give Wonder Woman a daughter or she'd be whored out to Damian.Daughter would be a baby compared to Damian you sicko

>>114902969>She's made from clay, OP. She's basically a golem.let it go, grandpa.Daughter of Zeus

>>114902938So give her a son that Damian can be whored out to.

>>114873969because she's more marketable for being a lesbian than laying with a mortal man.

>>114904591The emphasis lies more on his powers and what he can potentially do. Its done for all the wrong reasons. It's almost pure fanfiction-tier powerwank.

>>114904681>The emphasis lies more on his powers and what he can potentially do. Its done for all the wrong reasons. Agreed, he doesn't have any reasons to be that strong but I guess it's some kind of Gary Stuing for shitting on Superman>It's almost pure fanfiction-tier powerwank.Well, it's what Frank Miller wants for his characters so it's just his fiction powerwanks.

>>114904924>Well, it's what Frank Miller wants for his characters so it's just his fiction powerwanks.We've seen this before. JL Act of God, where the supes lose their powers. Where Diana is about to kill herself cause Clark leaves her. But then comes back and they have a kid who is god-tier.Supes and Wondy are already difficult and unpopular cause of their power levels and putting them together just elevates that power wankery to cringe tier.

>>114874413And I just forgot about a serbian film. fuck you.

>>114897013For me it was only Grayson and Todd. Tim was the fan boy who poked Batman around till he became Batman again. Like a fan poking Will Shatner to be Captain Kirk again.

>>114901058well when you lose your spouse and they come back decades later, you take advantage of the situation.

>>114904999>Supes and Wondy are already difficult and unpopular cause of their power levels and putting them together just elevates that power wankery to cringe tier.At least it's an elseworld

>>114874413Mai-Chan’s Daily Life. A fine argument for the USAF just keeping it up. You’re welcome.

>>114875273She could keep up the diplomacy work and delegate the asskicking.

>>114905103They brought that cancer to the main timeline in nu52. Thank god it didn't last long enough for them to have kids.

>>114902684Didn’t this cunt get correctived in a prison camp?

>>114905163>Diana acts as mission control from her seaside villa>Her agents are Cassie and Donna, with regular teamups with Supergirl or the Birds. >Still takes time off for Maternity Leave after giving birth, but should shit hit the fan, she will be in the field with the rage of a thunderous storm.

>>114894042I know that's true Ares but it's still weird

>>114875139>Damian's mother drugged him to conceive Damian, goaded him into raising Damian, and broke him mentally.Damian was a mistake. Not even because his personality, but because of the origin. Sidekick this essential shouldn't require reading an entire library of mostly arcs just to understand how the fuck he came into existence.

>>114874012>Because a pregnant woman going around and fight crime would be hotFixed

>>114905252>They brought that cancer to the main timeline in nu52. Thank god it didn't last long enough for them to have kids.I'm talking about the Millerverse, I'm just glad Miller made it just canon in his universe

>>114902684That’s a big girl.

>>114905507apparently people forgot the time she stopped being Wonder Woman for a whole year and Donna became Wonder Woman

>>114901700she never said it, user is just being schizoshe even has stated she liked the New 52 when asked what were some WW stories she liked

>>114906173>she never said it, user is just being schizo>she even has stated she liked the New 52 when asked what were some WW stories she likedI hate the Wonder Woman Movie, but I like how Patty made mainstream Diana being Zeus's daughter.I like it just for pissing of fanboys.

>>114900675>>114900993>>114901302>>114904618You'vre this same bullshit four fucking times. Why are you so insistent on pushing the zeus shit , when nobody actually working with the character in either the comics or movies does, and most of them are on record as hating it?You are going to be so pissed when it's completely gone in five-ten years(It's already practically irrelevant).

>>114906173>>114906280and unlike that autistic fag I have a sourceimagine thinking it's downplayef when it's the main 3rd act point between her and Aresand then in 1984 she does the retarded lightning thing

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>>114906327>Why are you so insistent on pushing the zeus shitI think it's neat

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>>114906327>tfw the thing that "everyone hates" is still more relevant a decade later than the entirety of Rebirthouch

>>114900616>>114902969NOT HOW THE CLAY ORIGIN WORKS,IDIOT.LEARN YOUR MYTHOLOGY.THE CLAY ORIGIN IS NOT MEANT TO MAKE HER LESS HUMAN OR UNABLE TO HAVE CHILDREN.

>>114906407>Pretty every single stand alone out of continuity ogn or miniseries only uses the clay origin>Main continuity; Zeus is dead, Hera doesn't give a crap about Diana's parentage or Zeus being dead, Jason has been dumped into limbo and is being ignored.>Gods are all dead in DCEU,>Gods never even appeared in DCAMUNobody is telling or wants to tell any stories centered around her being Zeus's daughter.

>>114906138Artemis was Wondy for a time too.

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>>114906597I don't like her being Zeus' daughter because she's even more special snowflake and if you look at Superman's issue, it's because people nowadays view him as closer to godhood than a regular guy trying so the right thing. Being the daughter of Zeus of all choices might not be great in the long run.

>>114873969In an age of abortion to escape responsibilities and just doing what you want cause you're not held accountable for your actions because of your gender, you really think young women would look up to a mother?

>>114874068Is that suppose to be john bryne?

>>114908214>"When I was in my 30s and 40s, I didn’t think about it," she recalled. "Then when I got divorced and I was in my 50s, I started to see the impact of not having children and of truly being alone. I do see that people with children have an anchor in a way that people who have no kids don’t."foxnews.com/entertainment/sex-and-the-city-author-candace-bushnell-regrets-not-having-kids-says-she-was-truly-aloneWomen are waking up to the consequences of putting careers and lifestyle over family. Younger women are seeing these older ones crumble, and while a lot of them don't see or are ignoring the signs, there are plenty that are scared shitless of being old and alone. One of them may end up writing for Wondy in 5-10 years, and by that time we might see her have a kid.

>>114908532>foxnewskek

>>114908532>Women are waking up to the consequencesThis is just a dream bro. We're all doomed.

>>114873969Are you the one who made the same thread only about pets? What is wrong with you?

>>114901058>he doesn't knowI'm super curious as how people will take this movie. It looks alright, but it's kinda funny because she told Bruce to let Superman rot in the dirt in the last movie and then in WW84...

>>114873969I don't want her to have any sex with men at all.

i prefer they don't have kids. i'm not a big fan of Damian for that reason.

>>114909801Just by looking at the trailer you know everything in the movie will be undone at the end in order to reconcile with BvS/JL so the whole movie is really pointless.

>>114909801I figured he'd die again when I saw him in the trailer too. Just a gut feeling.

>>114873969I'd make kids with her.