Let's talk about Galaxy of Adventures and how beautiful and perfect its animation and designs are for a fucking YouTube series.God, I wish we had more Western 2D animation like this.
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The Jedi vs Sith video is the best Star Wars content Disney has ever put out.
>>114869910>beautifulagreed>perfectfor every well-done shot, there's another that is clunky and poor by comparison.too inconsistent to call it perfect.
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>>114870064Even its weaker moments are still great considering it's for a YouTube channel for kids. There was no need to put even half as much effort into it like they did.
>>114869985I like this art style and the animation looks fantastic to boot. Are they ever going to release an actual series for this?
>>114870180I really hope the reception to the series encourages Disney to hire titmouse to do a full series in this style. Maybe with a little more refining. 2D animation will look better than 3D anyday.
>>114869910Why didn't they ever get Genndy to make OT and beyond content? His Clone Wars is still better than Filoni's and he'd be wasted on the ST so it's too late now.
>>114870064You're pushing an unattainable ideal because nothing is perfect. Most of it is incredibly solid for YT standards, as >>114870135 pointed out, so I'd just take it as an overall win.
>>114870525Agreed, I’d really like to see him adapt Shadows of the Empire as a cartoon
>>114869985that was beautiful.Give us a series animated like this
>>114870525>His Clone Wars is still better than Filoni'sAnon, I rewatched my DVDs of it about a year ago. You're huffing the nostalgia way too hard.
>>114870701No he's not. Genndy definitely did a much better job if only from an action standpoint.
>>114870525Disney may want him, but I'd be shocked if Genndy would reciprocate an offer.Lucasfilm un-canonized, disowned and buried Genndy Wars. They did him real dirty.
>>114870836>disownedWhen did they disown it? Or was it that just all part of their reasoning to retcon that whole series?
>>114870751>Genndy definitely did a much better job if only from an action standpoint.That's the problem. He did a better job ONLY from an action standpoint. And not even universally so, the overall quality of the action goes down significantly in Season 2, there's frankly high points in the Filoni show that eclipse what I'd consider the best parts of Genndy's (The Yavin fight, the Grievous chase on Coruscant and Anakin becoming a Knight)
>>114871013This.Basically, Volume 1 is fantastic. Volume 2 struggles to fill in the gaps with a subplot that has to only explain why Anakin has a scar on his face.I loved Genndy's work, but it was impossible to fill in the gaps of the clone wars.Also, Captain Fordo is badass, and it gave us a beautiful Grievous, but it lacked the humanity of the clones in CW 08, as well as creating years of lore and fun adventures.CW 03 benefitted from its creative liberties, but is ultimately too short to world build. As much as I love it.CW 08 introduces new worlds, made some EU material canon, lore about the Whills, new characters to appreciate and grow with. Granted, they did Grievous dirty and had some unnecessary arcs like the D-Squad but its positives outweigh the negatives.
>>114869910Also luke looks like a twink soft uwu boy.
>>114869910Leia makes me diamonds
>>114870637Do you reckon Genndy would include the part where Xizor's pheromones almost make Leia rip off her clothes and masturbate?
>>114870093The transition from Anakin and Obi-Wan fighting Dooku to fighting each other is fucking inspired.
>>114871731As he should.
>>114871731>>114872411>Star Wars doesn't have a single ara ara MILF to pair Luke with.I always knew George was a fucking hack.
Filoni Wars is okay, but what truly brings it down from becoming a good series is the lack of quality of villains. Dooku and Grievous are the main forces behind the conflict and they hardly get any character development, but the biggest offender here is how the show doesn't even bother in making them seem genuine and believable to the audience.Genndy Wars didn't expand on their backstories either, but at least I was interested in them and the writers obviously didn't have a problem with making it clear they were a threat.Ventress at first has the same problem, only to later on have the series sucking up to her way too much, which is not less of a problem in comparisson to the former examples.And Maul is literally a walking plot hole.
>>114872443I've never seen either Clone Wars because spending a bunch of time watching something from that era always struck me as kinda pointless even if both shows are very good, but, I do remember one thing very clearly from Genndy Wars. Dooku is talking to this girl who's a dark Jedi, she claims to be a sith and Dooku says something to the effect of "you can act like a Sith, you can dress like a Sith, you can even kill like a Sith but you are not a Sith because Sith have no fear and I sense great fear in you." And then he fucking bodies her with lightning. That always struck me as A) A very strong understanding of the Jedi, Sith and what's inbetween, B) More of a concerted effort to make Dooku an imposing villain than anything Episode 2 or 3 ever did.
>>114872442No crossdressing either., real shame.
>>114870093I love the style and animation to this. Is this an "official" Youtube series or just a fan with love for Star Wars and animation?
>>114871731He is.
>>114870093I don't give a single fuck about Star Wars, the only movies I watched are TFA and TLJ, the only way I know the plot of the original trilogy and prequels is through cultural osmosis. This short animated trailer actually makes the saga look amazing and interesting, and makes me wish it existed fully in this way. This just highlights how fucking superior animation is as a medium for fantasy stories to live action, and how retarded mainstream audiences are for not accepting that.
>>114869910Is this the series where they redid the 'rescuing of Leia' with Luke as a retard and her basically doing everything except punching the Emp in the dick before leaving while screaming 'I'm a man and a half packing a man and a half'
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>>114872757I dont recall that, the only episodes I remember with Leia's rescue used the exact audio from the movie. It never made up it's own lines and shit.
>>114872609It's an official YouTube series directly funded by Disney and with voice acting talent like Dante Basco. It's animated by Titmouse I think.
>>114869910Have you guys watched the episodes that they released for the sequel trilogy? For whatever reason, they don't seem as good as the others.>>114872609Official. The channel is called "Star Wars Kids."
>>114869985Ah, yes. I too remember when in AotC Yoda got pissed and started killing clones just for fun
There is a star wars thread up already if this one can't pick up traction.But yeah Galaxy of Adventures is beautiful. Too bad all the money is spent on just adapting scenes we have already seen. If they used the same funds and studio to instead make a 40 minute special on Disney+ showing us a story we have never seen, I think that would have been mind blowing.
>>114874026That's RotS, when they attacked him.
>>114874064The clone has a phase 1 helmet
>>114874092An oversight, obviously.
>>114874026>Sith eyes
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>>114874048That looks fucking good. We really need a 2D SW cartoon. Everything since TCW was CGI, and I'm tired of it.
Someone made a good point about how these shorts are an attempt to rewrite Starwars in Disney's image in order to erase the original trilogy similar to how they did it with fairy tails
>>114874048>Grevious with glowing eyesSpoopy
>>114874421Yeah man that's a good point
>>114874421I dont agree considering they're doing it to all eras of Star Wars including the sequels.
>>114874676Also if there was some conspiracy about rewriting the star wars universe, they would do it somewhere a bit more prominent than the SW Kids youtube channel
>>114874026Whoops looks like an continuity error, should have had phase 2 helmets
I'm sort of surprised that Disney didn't make a Marvel version of these animated shorts.
>>114870980George the baby was mad that everyone loved Genndy Wars and hated his shit. He even completely changed Grevious from what was planned because he’s an insecure petulant fat retard boomer faggot.
>>114870980Not him, but Lucasfilm doesn't even dare acknowledge its existence directly anymore, not even when Canon is referencing its events like what happened in episode 9 of TCW s7. Only time I remember Filoni ever talking about Genndy Wars was the artbook commentaries (which barely credited him and his team for what were their designs and ideas) and some featurettes.
>>114875065What did they reference in Episode 9 of TCW s7?
>>114875124Siege of Coruscant, with Shaak Ti protecting the chancellor and Grievous going after them. Nothing was shown of course, but it was a very obvious reference at Clone Wars 2003.
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>>114872720There's something really magical about how it interprets the Star Wars universe the way it does. I never grew up with Star Wars but it makes me feel like how a kid did watching the original trilogy for the first time.youtube.com
>>114874248Were they trying to frame the stormtroopers as being heroic as fuck intentionally?
>>114874048They took a small step with one set during the Sequel trilogy with an entirely new "adventure" that's loosely inspired by the scene in Last Jedi where they infiltrate one of the Star Destroyers.youtube.com
>>114871786>Do you reckon Genndy would include the part where Xizor's pheromones almost make Leia rip off her clothes and masturbate?Most likely.
>>114875695Is there really anything in Genndy's Clone Wars that would make it incompatible with Filoni's. Only thing I can think of is Ventress dying in Genndy's differently than when she dies in a book set during Filoni's Clone Wars.
>>114869910Have you seen the anime openings?
>>114874248>>Stormtrooper dives into water>>Darktrooper emergesSmooth like butter
>>114876034Ventress didn't die, she just fell off a cliff. I think it's funny how Disneyfags love to pretend that Genndy wars is so incompatible, when it was clearly tailor made to lead into episode 3.
>>114875695youtu.be
>>114876118I remember the implication was that she died there would it take place before or after the book Ventress does die in
>>114876160Meant for >>114876059
>>114870836>Speaking of your version of “Clone Wars,” does it bother you that there’s another one and that the one you did seems to no longer be canon?>Yeah. I mean, you know, of course it bothers me. But, you know, it’s George’s characters. It’s his world and he has to do what he has to do. And the new ones are totally inspired by what we did: A lot of the same character designs and stuff.>Does that part bother you, too?>No, again, it’s not my characters, so he can do whatever he wants. And the story was also that I was going to do it. I was going to go to Lucas and be their John Lasseter-type of person and do a feature and supervise the “Star Wars” television show. And things kind of fell apart, blah blah blah. But, yeah, I’m super proud of what we did. And I felt like we did a justice to “Star Wars” and as a fan.>I mean, people haven’t forgotten them, even though we are supposed to.>That’s the one thing that is kind of weird that he just wants to wipe it off. Because we used to be in the encyclopedias, some of the characters that we created. And now they’re gone. And you can’t get the DVD and all of this other stuff. And it’s like, whatever. What are you going to do, right? It existed.>But it feels like its been thrown on the scrapheap with the Holiday Special.>I think George is brilliant. And I think he just wants to ... I don’t know the reasoning, exactly. But from any sense that I can make out of it, he just wants it to be clean. But there’s so much fiction that’s out with “Star Wars,” I don’t think it would matter.Yeah no shit, I too doubt he will be collaborating with Lucasfilm ever again unless they downright recanonize his series.
>>114876782Wouldnt have been too hard. Wonder what happened to stop Genndy from being the John Lasseter of Star Wars tho
>>114875500>"They fly now?"Good to know that none of the characters have a functional memory
>>114877891That's the funniest part that they might as well just retcon the Sequel trilogy and do an animated series that replaces it in canon.
shame it's just well animated propaganda
>>114878113Ignoring previous movies seems to be a proud tradition among the sequels
>>114878211All Western media is.
>>114878211These 2 minute YouTube animations make you feel propagated?Why?
>>114874471I hope we get an episode about him.
>>114870093This makes me really wish the other two trilogies were good. The setting and story are classic and iconic but the films are just so bad.
>>11487170003 CW would had the same chance at world buildig if they funded them more seasons.After all season 2 happened because the first had a bigger sucess than the one they expected
>>114869910I think it was animated by studio titmouse, right? Good stuff.
>>114877891>They fly now!
>>114878758Let's not forget that CW 03 was also part of a bigger multimedia project. Still, I REALLY wish it could have gotten more seasons.
>>114877158Forced to work on Star Wars for years, Gendy probably had in mind doing other projects later
>>114878891>They Fwaaav Now?!
>>114878211literally how
>>114869910>>114871731>>114872411>>114872442This Luke awakened something inside of me, I want to tease and gently bully this soft sunshine boy. This Luke made me go into Ara~Ara~~ INTENSIFIED, WARNING! DANGEROUS LEVEL! mode.
>>114875695Was it rape?
>>114879678I know how you feel. Luke is kawaii. I want to see him dressed up in even more cute and sexy outfits. He needs to be a trap.
>>114871013He wasn't given nearly as much leeway as filoni. Maybe because lucas had a hand in it and made the clusterfuck clone wars cartoon movie with the creepy emotionless wood puppet cg people. If he was given even half as much leeway and budget as filoni it would be seen as THE SW media to beat.
>>114871731Young Hamill is definitely that.
>>114879815Pls no.
>>114879678Imagine if Mark heard you say that
>>114872442So, why don't we make one?
>>114881301Fennec Shand is about the right age.
>>114880054yes......
>>114881623Unfamiliar with her but she has that look already.>see's young Jedi in training sunshine boy>Ara ara
>>114872603>>114872612Luke a cute!
>>114881737Fennec Shand is a professional assassin who appeared in one episode of The Mandalorian, where she appeared to have been killed but could possibly come back. She's played by Ming-Na Wen, who is 56 years old but looks younger, and The Mandalorian is set 5 years after ROTJ when Luke was 28.
I'm genuinely excited in a long time for something star wars, only if its made by filoni, I really hope for clone wars-esq new jedi order or something, with political intrigue post ep6 and whacky adventures of animated luke in the galaxyand the inevitable de canonization of the ST by subtly ignoring and retconing it
>>114882629They really should just make him the creative director of Lucasfilm already
>>114869910is that the series where they made Luke looking like an idiot while Leia rescued him? wtf
>>114869910Animation style is perfect for an SW animated series
>>114871786That's the best part. Leia is absolutely thirsty and dripping every time she's in Xizer's presence.
>>114874403But Star Wars is so vehicle heavy, CGI is able to present it much better than 2D reasonably could.
>>114882742I wouldn't say perfect, but it absolutely has a lot going on for it.
>>114882720It's the series where one episode was like that.
>>114874833They're playing the long game by indoctrinating the next generation. YouTube I'd bigger than TV and movies for people who aren't boomers or boomer lite gen Xers
>>114881623>>114882541Fuck off, he's Ahsoka's.
>>114882951I doubt a minute long series of animated shorts will somehow replace the 9 main feature length films in a franchise so beloved by its fanbase that even George Lucas' attempts to erase the original films with Special Editions was met with a group of fans that painstakingly remastered the original movie frame-by-frame just so future generations can have access to them at the best possible quality imaginable.
>>114882821Genndy was way ahead of you.
someone explain to me KK line of thinking, she wants to get rid of the new audience, those 50 something wh*te guys, who does she think introduce the next generation of Star Wars? Those 50 somthing whyteoids are the ones who pushed their kids into star wars, without those you basically lose free PR workers
was there a reason why the clone wars episodes were out of chronical order in the first place?
>>114883565It wasn't meant to track the linear course of the war but rather serve as an anthology of various stories within the war.
>>114883776Then why did they air some episodes in order?That made it confusing as fuck.
>>114883071Kids dont like boomer SW films and have low attention spans. These short clips are the only SW related thing kidding respond to these days. Sequel trilogy killed the franchise. Marvel cinematic is the star wars of the current generation. SW is a boomer franchise
>>114883494She had the wrong assumption that current star wars fans are easy to please and would accept whatever Lucasfilm made regardless of what it was, so she tried to grab the young female demographic which traditionally never liked star wars. However she didn't realize it would come at a cost of the old fans. Looks like they are finally trying to ease back into the old style (since obviously young girls are not worth losing the massive old fanbase for) because Mandalorian reads to me like complete damage control with a bone throne to the "girl power" types
>>114875176It's also a deleted scene in RotS, which is where Genndy got the idea of Shaak Ti being involved in the siege.
>>114884014You say that as I show my four year old cousin a New Hope and he immediately started naming character like Darth Vader and Luke and humming to the music.People aren't going to suddenly forget the original films because of minute long recaps that are filled with references to the original films. The only way kids could know about Star Wars is through their parents who grew up with the originals themselves.You're a retard if you think it's some plot to "indoctrinate" kids, especially when apparently it's mostly adults watching them to gush about the animation and making fan edits of the footage like >>114876160
>>114883565Some of the episodes would take longer to animate than others.
>>114870093that's beautiful.
>>114870093>>114878685>>114884254I like how the editing implies Luke trained Rey before she fought Kylo Ren.Man, what a fucking mess the sequels were.
>>114884167Some episodes are the middle part of trilogies that air two-three seasons later.
Saving this thread because the other one is less than 50 posts away from dying.
>>114885754A noble effort, but unfortunately it will go nowhere without the word "star wars" in the subject or at LEAST in the comment field. Most people ctrl f to find the threads, and this OP post is really specific to draw posters naturally
>>114870525you really can't compare genndy's high action idealistic clone wars to filonis more steady paced war time stories. They're both good just for highly different reasons. but yeah, genndy needs more projects in general.
>>114876059yes, these two are perfect imo.youtube.com
>>114886011Next time, we'll put Star Wars into the subject.
>>114887517Also be careful to not use the subject field too much or else mods will ban it for being a general. Same with back to back threads Even if the old thread dies tonight, wait till tomorrow for a new one
The Boba Fett one was pretty cool, though hilarious because he does more in here than he ever did in the OT.youtube.com
>>114887691He has more screentime here than he did the entire original trilogy.
>>114869910just give me a full series
>>114887691Boba Fett's immense popularity despite doing nothing but looking cool as fuck will aways amuse me.The fact that they purposely tried to recapture that popularity for Phasma and failing just makes it even funnier.
>>114889062How hard would it have been to have her not roll over in the movie she was introduced in or to give her some line that shows she's a crazy bitch.
>>114888616Too high budget. At best we could get a special
>>114881653We don't talk about that thing...
>>114889286A new Holiday Special you say?
>>114883565>was there a reason why the clone wars episodes were out of chronical order in the first place?A. Some episodes took longer to go through production than others.B. Sometimes during the development of newer seasons George/one of the writers would go "hey remember [insert arc/episode here]? what if we did an episode showing the build-up to those events"C. In the case of Season 5, they knew it'd keep people more interested if they started off with a Maul episode instead of going right into the Onderon stuff.
>>114889062Because they didn't understand how to use her.Imagine if Phasma was the one going TRAITOR, and beating Finn instead of being easily ambushed and thrown in the trash compactor. Then when Finn beats her in Last Jedi or whatever, the victory seems more meaningful.
>>114870093SOUL
>>114874026>>114874064that actually looks like it's outside the jedi temple when Yoda and Obi Wan returned after order 66
>Finally read the supposed leaked Trevorrow screenplay>It's just as stupid as The Rise of SkywalkerChrist.
>>114890299It is. Don't let Holla Forums posters try to tell you otherwise just because it's not what we ended up getting
>>114890299>Grey Jedi bullcrapName a worse thing to happen to SW lore than centrist retards pretending that the side wich acted as peacekeepers for 4000+ years is as bad as the one wich blew up planets.
>>114890299There should be a fan made audio drama made out of this script. It needs to reach more people so we can finally the this misconception that it's actually good
>>114869985>>114870093>>114874248>>114875279There's something so...depressing about how good these make the Prequels and Sequels look.
>>114890299Was it? I thought it got debunked. Or was there a different Rise of Skywalker script that got debunked? I can't remember which.
>>114890433End this misconception*
>>114890468There was one AGES ago that got debunked, but then there was another that got leaked along with a ton of concept art which was all confirmed real by the director
>>114890443It says a lot about being able to separate the quality of an era from the quality of the films themselves
>>114870064This, is a mediocre and flawed animation but overrated as fuck.
>>114869910What's everyone want to see out of a new SW animated show? I'd like to see something set during SotE. Fuck, imagine a smoking hot Leia cartoon model pretending to be seduced by Xizor's pheromones like in the book. She thinks she's got him tricked, but then he folds her over, lifts up her dress, and his gigantic alien lizard cock goes straight up her ass. Haha what if she made a face like pic related, teeth gritted as she has to mentally come to terms with the idea that she's being ass raped by the galaxy's biggest crime lord as her lover is a fucking wall decoration for a hermaphroditic slug?
>>114889420Only if Jon Favreau gets his way
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the decision to dump the EU storylines if they're just going to do worse versions of them.
>wanted it to be an actual series>just animations dubbed over by audio from the movies and some narrationsuch wasted potential
>>114871013>He did a better job ONLY from an action standpoint.I don't see how that's a complaint when the original 5 minute length shorts were pretty much JUST action segments.
>>114890384I just hate the idea of trying to stick a Yin-Yang type philosophy to the Force, like trying to justify the Dark Side. It just goes against how George said the Dark Side is a tumour on the Force and removing it brought balance. Not to mention how it implies there’s a Light Side of the Force, which is never mentioned by that name in canon material at all.
>>114892112The part that gets me is how Kennedy had the gall to claim there’s no source material for them while stealing ideas from the old EU to go “hey remember that thing you liked, now it’s canon!”
>>114891588Something far off after Rise of Skywalker, no Empire, no New Republic, no First Order.Just a big lawless galaxy following around a force user trying to bring peace in it.
>>114890384It actually worked really well in the Dark Horse comics.
>>114874248Hey kids do you like fascism?I know people will always be fascinated with bad guys but I find it kinda weird how loved the empire is, especially by kids.
>>114891588Something that erases the events of the sequel trilogy. In fact I'm fine with keeping the characters from the sequel trilogy, just rewrite them into better characters and have events that aren't as stupid.
>>114893098Separating design and ideology. I'm not going to pretend that Hugo Boss didn't make slick uniforms or that Dark Troopers aren't badass.
>>114874933[citation needed]
>>114870525I love Genndy wars but that would be a total waste of Genndys talents. Id prefer him to keep making original shows with adult swim to be honest.
>>114876034You'd have to move Anakin's journey on Nelvan around in the timeline. In 2D series, it leads directly into E3, but 3D show has Siege of Mandalore lead directly into E3 instead.Other than that, I can't really think of anything where the two series contradict each other.
No Sheev short? Let's fix that.youtube.com
>>114893245>Inquisitorium Dark TrooperJesus its ripping on 40K so bad it may as well just be 40K
>>114893559God I love Palpatine, he’s so delightfully evil. Even if it was clearly a last minute addition he was honestly the best part of RoS, I just dig this cruel and wicked space wizard.
>>114893598Anon, the non-beaky marine helmet is based heavily on Vader's.
>>114893559The perspective this one gives, showing just how his plans have been so efficiently executed over the decades, it's just amazing. Palps truly was one of the best Sith out there. He did in thirty years what his predecessors couldn't in a thousand.
>>114894209He was a great master planner and had the big picture down, but what I really appreciate about TCW is that it shows that not everything went according to keikaku in its execution and he had to improvise at times, showing that his greatest power is his adaptability to ever changing situations.
>>114892145At least the narration was done by Zuko
>>114882836I think all they really need to do is make Luke a bit gruffer-looking after the wampa pit. He looks a little too babyfaced to be staring down the Emperor. Yoda, though, is expressive as FUCK and I like it a lot.
>>114886660Qui-Gon looks so fucking good in these, jesus christ.
>>114872443>plot holeI don't think you know what that word means.
>>114894336so close to having a canon star wars character voiced by zuko
>>114894614He did.
>>114884923i can only think of 3 episodes like that
>>114894614He actually did voice a guy in Rebels, a kid in stormtrooper training on Lothal who eventually works as a double agent for the rebel cell in s4.
>>114890384It's always stupid. And it always relies on a fundamental misunderstanding of the Jedi and philosophy, and it almost always treats this misunderstanding as a smug "gotcha." Not even the prequel Jedi were really about denying emotions.
>>114889286>Too high budgetCan it be high as TCW final season?
>>114890299>Darth Vader route activated.We better see her kill younglings and force-choke her love interest. It's the only way to salvage this first arc of nuStar Wars. It honestly feels like Disney just wants to make Star Wars into another Avengers/Transformers franchise. That or some slave-princeas fan-service.
>>114895149>We better see her kill younglings and force-choke her love interest.Yeah right.
>>114895099Eh probably not. Good point
>>114872442Thats Ahsoka tho
can we take a moment to acknowledge quinlan vos sucks?
>>114890299Just to be sure. Who is she referring to by saying "my love" here, Ren?
>>114886660I feel bad that I think of Star Wars first instead of Demon Slayer when I listen to Gurenge.
>>114890299I acknowledge both would've been garbage but Finn leading insurgents on Coruscant and Kylo Ren committing to being evil is nice.
>>114895691Please do not be mean to my boy
>>114895249BUT LUKE FOUND THAT NOT REY.
>>114895733>Finn leading insurgentsThis is the best thing they do in the script but it really doesn't make up for the rest
>>114895249>That picOne of the few things I gave DotF credit for was going the middle road with the force. Pretty disappointed seeing it was handled with as much subtlety as a dumpster fire
>>114893598>Jesus its ripping on 40K so bad it may as well just be 40KDo you say this about 40K being a lacklustre Dune clone? Though It lacks the intellectual substance and scope of the source material. I honestly believe the only reason 40Kek is not up to its head in lawsuits is due to being a self-proclaimed parody.Also, Grey Knights best Space Marines.
>>114895700Love in general, really. Her love interest in that screenplay is Poe, and it's as unnatural feeling as that premise sounds. >>114895733It's something, but everything from Rey's clunky romance thread with Poe to the Ancient Evil Sith Guy that dies like an absolute doofus to the dumb life-draining ability to the botched understanding of Jedi philosophy drag it all down considerably. Leia naturally gets a better showing, and Finn and Rose do too, but the story overall is similarly disastrous. >>114895751Luke didn't find it either. That was never a thing outside of gray Jedi fanfiction.
>>114886660>>114876160You forgot the best of the bunch.youtu.be
>>114894209Could give Tzeench a run for his money
>>114882648Filoni is a terrible and bad director, who needs bajillions of dollars to make something that seems okay. Rebels season 4 showed how pathetic and bad Filoni was as a director.
surprised nobody has posted the best one yetyoutube.com
>>114896337WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOATHAT'S NOT NIK SANT
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>>114896368Wonder how Rex felt about serving a Skywalker again
>>114896337Solo should've been made into animated series with that style instead of film.
>>114896453He was probably regaling Luke with war stories about his dad.
>>114896413>>114896389>>114896368>we will never have the emotional cheesiness of Rex finding Anakin's pyre and saluting him one last time
>>114896999Maybe in the remakes.
>>114897091>>114896999I like to think there is a timeline where george never sold star wars to disney and just added in a scene in rotj with morrison as rex saluting the pyre. causing unfathomable seethe of course.
>>114897119>causing unfathomable seethe of courseah yes. the good old days when fans simply bitched and moaned as a means of keeping the topic alive. Instead because that's literally all there is to Star Wars
>>114892112Cause Disney wants the exclusive royalties
>>114893559palpy jumping down with his lightsaber out surrounded by lightning is kino of the highest level
>>114886660>>114896086My favorite is this Vinland Saga one youtube.com
>>114896333He's the best idea man since George and understands the star wars universe better than anybody
>>114897131Oh sweet summer child.
>>114897269>understands the star wars universe better than anybodyJames Luceno and Chris Avellone come to mind.
>>114871731He's such a ray of sunshine
>>114890384I know it's cringe, but I want to see a dark Jedi who is either Chaotic Good, Lawful Neutral or just Neutral. Every time a Force user is on the dark side, they are ALWAYS an irredeemable mustache twirling villain.
>>114893132I'm not against this, I really think Fin could be an interesting character and it not even the actors fault, just crap writing.
>>114893132>>114897475WHAT'S THAT? MORE TIME TRAVEL BASED RETCONS? YOUR WISH IS MY DEMAND
>>114897269If Filoni is the best that the Star Wars franchise currently has to offer creativity-wise, then it's no wonder that everything about it is currently just shit or pathetic and bad. Bad executive producers like Kathleen Kennedy, bad movie directors like Abrams and Johnson, bad series directors like Filoni. Ain't looking good for the next two decades.
>>114897537You're trying too hard
>>114893098well liking the rebels is also awkward...
>>114897495DAM YOU MONKEYS PAW!!!!!!
>>114897558I actually genuinely mean it that they're all bad, especially in the context of the Star Wars franchise as it is currently run. I am really not a fan of what Filoni has turned out for the series so far. Rebels got worse and worse, and Resistance was just utterly boring shit from the get-go.
>>114870180This is an actual series
>>114897593You should have stopped when you were ahead. Better everybody thinks you are just shitposting rather than actually stupid
>>114876059they're just fucking clips with anime music
>>114897605I don't care if you think I'm stupid or shitposting. Filoni will still remain a very bad director who needs lots of money to make a barely good series. Since you're defending Filoni, surely you can explain why he shouldn't be considered bad, when it was Filoni who came up with time-travel shit in Rebels, and had miserably drirected action scenes where storm troopers couldn't even hit a floating immobilized and defenseless Ezra.
>>114896999I want a cartoon between Empire and RotJ where Luke meets Ahsoka and Rex, and Ahsoka teaches Luke how to build a lightsaber
>>114889286What makes you assume this is high budget
>>114892145It is an actual series.
>>114897659Smooth animation, dynamic moving camera, etcI already conceded to somebody else's point though that is still probably not as expensivd as TCW season 7
>>114869910Main characters are anime the rest nope XD
>>114897685>Smooth animation, dynamic moving camera, etcThese things do not necessitate a high budget.We have no real idea what the costs wereGood = Expensive or vice versa
>>114897718Good =/= Expensive or vice versa
>>114897269>He's the best idea man since GeorgeI don't see much evidence of this. Most of TCW's success is in its more modest stories that simply flesh out the events of the war. Whatever you think of the prequels or the Clone Wars, the show does a good job of conveying their scope. Most of its novelty didn't land. Rebels is a misfire in almost every respect.All told I think Filoni is a good guy, but he's not some brilliant heir apparent to Lucas.
I'm gonna fucking fire this fully-armed and operational battle station and make you two watch.
How many star wars books have you read?EU or Canon?
>>114897854only a small handful of EUalmost all of the nucanon
>>114897854Already answered this last thread but 23 newcanon books, all audiobook format.
>>114897854Quite a number, both EU and canon. Hell, I started with the Thrawn Trilogy with some original copies, which are unfortunately deteriorating in quality.
>>114897854Quite a few comics. No novels, save for the Thrawn books at one point.
>>114897854All of the Academy books and a few others.
>>114889489She was supposed to do that but the actress couldn't get how to pull off the choreography and refused a stunt double
>>114897649Based user telling it like it is.
>>114871786is the Leia/xizor thing the strongest coomer energy star wars has ever had?
>>114897854I was obsessed with the Essential Guides from the 90s and 00s.
>>114899053Doug Chiang's concept art is always great. The 'New' Essential Guides (most of them go up to AOTC...) are all computer drawn stuff, and they just don't have that feel.
>>114893098The empire did nothing wrong
>>114894435No? They resurrected a characters whom by all accounts had been assumed to be dead for the most obvious reasons, all without providing a believable or even logical explanation. It's a hole in the story.On the other hand, reviving Maul didn't really add anything to the story and only served to the detriment of both Dooku and Grievous as characters.Maul is okay, but he doesn't belong to the story of the Clone Wars.
Slightly more appropriate, easier to find thread up
>>114899330Not that user and haven't watched the series so take what I'm saying with a huge grain of salt. What I've been told/read is that Maul survived via using the dark side and his hatred (which just powered his dark side) to null the pain til he could to some place on Naboo to fully fix himself. It's stupid but if that is what happened that fits enough in SW to not be a plot hole. Bad writing, maybe. Plot hole, no.
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>>114897854Are they even releasing anything ST related anymore? I'm not talking post ep6 but stuff closely related to the movies, like the 10 minute break between the end of 7 and the beginning of 8
>>114900188related to the new movies*
>>114900188none of the remaining things this year are ST related in any major way. it's all PT, OT, and HR
>>114900188>>114900205New Poe Dameron book coming out this year and a new ongoing IDW series that takes place after 9
>>114900188There's too little time for anything major to be happen between the movies. The whole ST took place over like a year and a half at most.
>>114900238>New Poe Dameron book coming out this yearit's a back story book. is it going to be a flashback told after TROS or something
>>114900253I mean maybe you have a point about the characters we know, but>Stories leading up to 7>Stories between 8 and 9>Stories after 9 >Stories about characters that we don't get a ton of screentime with in the moviesStill all on the table. I'd kill for a book about how the Final Order functions
>>114900297>Anything ST related
>>114884132good goyim, keep falling for our tricks.
>>114874421(((they))) want to turn star wars into liberal feminist propagandayoutu.be
>>114900381
>>114900381God Dante Basco's voice will never not-be Zuko for me.I hate this for a few reasons. Leia was already a badass without having to rewrite history, she's talking back to Vader in literally the first scene of the franchise and the part with her taking the blaster in the cell-block is accurate. Then they have to make Luke look dumb and act like she was on the ground in the Battle of Hoth. Leia was made to look like either *the* leader of the Rebellion in ESB or just under the general on Hoth (I know all about the Rebel command line in Legends and Canon, I'm talking strictly what's seen onscreen). There was no reason to add that other stuff.
>>114900303>>114900253When literally your entire main cast go on the record saying they never want to be involved with Star Wars or Disney again, you'd try to divert all attention from their era as quickly as possible.
>>114900502What an aggressively disingenuous post. Do you think you are going to trick any of us?
>>114900524What the absolute shitslobbering fuck are you talking about?
>>114900538Mad
>>114900561Yes, you are. The question is why
>>114900574>I know you are but what am I?Really?
>>114897854Splinter of the Mind's EyeShadows of the EmpireThe old Thrawn TrilogyThe Jedi Academy TrilogySome of the Rogue Squadron books.Some of the new comics (Doctor Aphra), some of the old comics (Tales of the Jedi)I truly, sincerely miss when Star Wars was good.
>>114900610>Saying that as a frogposter>While also starting this nonsense by making vague, nonsensical assertions of "u the boogeyman" that read suspiciously like a shill on damage control
It's kinda sad that this is where SW is. I work at a grocery store there are STILL dozens of TFA kids books in the bargain book stand up. They'll probably be there until thrown in the trash.
>>114900624Yeah man, good... Like splinter of the minds eye...
>>114890443Amazing really. I've never liked a single Star Wars film, but this makes it seem so interesting
>>114900624>Tales of the JediI wish it were better; I was pretty disappointed with it. As far as Dark Horse goes I think Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison is probably the best thing they ever put out. I recommend it if you haven't read it.
>>114900739Star Wars: Tales, the series that was basically Elseworlds for SW was always interesting.
>>114900303the problem with ST is that its such a..rounded story? I mean, there is a beginning but there is an end with no chance to continue, i mean look at Rey char, she begun as an autistic person on a desert planet. ended up living as an autistic, albit with force powers on a desert planet, living in a house abandoned since a New Hope (Who cleared luke's family bones anyway?) that didnt belong to her, after she buried the lightsaber of Luke who tried his damnest to get off this planet because there is no hope in there jesus christ what a stupid ending. the best outcome? lesson? of the films is literately gained along the way considering they spent 2 and a half movies apart from each other doing their own things
>>114900686Oh, it's a clusterfuck that was booted out of canon within two years of release. I only read it a couple years ago for the incestuous flirting and wasn't disappointed. But the rest of the novels I listed were good.
>>114900381Fuck you, I thought it was funny.
>>114900948*friends gained along the way
>>114900484I wouldn't call Leia a badass for that. Leia's writing (along with every single female character in Star Wars save for Mara Jade) either had wildly inconsistent writing to just weak writing.>Original Star WarsLeia is a mouthy damsel in distress who is Luke's call to action>Empire Strikes BackAn actually fully realized character>Return of the JediSomewhat a useful character but ultimately relegated to "You are my sister" status after Lucas and Kasdan realize the oversight they created in Empire.You can say the same things for Mon Mothma (non character), Padme (non character), Ashoka Tano (wildly inconsistent writing), Rey (weakly constructed character), etc, etc. George Lucas set a standard of writing female characters with no consistent character arcs or well written character arcs that only bled over to the Disney era.The only character who had a consistent character arc was Mara Jade and Lucas hated her for simply getting together with Luke Skywalker. Let that sink in
>>114890299I feel like people would hate Rey even more if she said arrogant dumbass lines like these
>>114901288>oversightIt wasn't an oversight so much as Lucas just got tired of the stress of Star Wars, so the sister character he had planned on introducing and dealing with in subsequent movies got combined with Leia so things could wrap up and end with RotJ.
>>114901404That is an oversight though.>We need to introduce a sister character>Okay but why?>Because a movie later down the line is going to have her play a significant role in the future>Are you sure this is a good idea Lucas?>Sure it is!>Revenge of the Jedi is filming>....fuck I'm getting tired of making Star Wars.>Then lets wrap it up Mr. Lucas>Okay......WAIT, WHAT ABOUt THE SISTER THING!>Sir, we could have avoided this>Quick, make Leia into Luke's sister!>*sigh* .... yes Mr. LucasPretty sure that's how an oversight works.
proof that a Star Wars anime would be kino
>>114883482>that shot of them flying into what looks like stars, but it's actually thousands of capital ships in a clusterfuck of a naval battleKino
>>114883482Why doesn't the Trade Federation just ram all the capital ships with their own capital ships? The Trade Federation is just using Drones and AI and has nothing to lose by kamikazing all the Republic navy in to space dust. Why do the Droid starfighters even bother with lazers? If they all just kamikazed the Republic capitol ships, the Republic Starfighters would have nowhere to dock and would eventually just run out of fuel and die.
>>114901486Your hypothetical is more cartoonish than the actual circumstances. It's not like he forgot about the sister while filming Return of the Jedi; he had decided to wrap things up after TESB because it more or less ruined his marriage. It was a bad attempt at being economical, but it wasn't a flippant move.
>>114893559>Luke will face the EmperorSwear to God that sounds like Dante Basco narrating.
>>114869910Go fuck yourself.
>>114901925Big oof, my guy. Cringe 100
>>114901575This is nothing like anime though.
>>114901888That doesn't exactly answer the question as to WHY the sister has to exist in the first place.Anybody can just set up a family member. Exactly WHY that family member exists and WHAT she does in the overarching story is a whole other issue. An issue that Lucas didn't think about.Why couldn't Yoda have said "The Force will guide him on this path" instead of "There is another"
>>114895903>Her love interest in that screenplay is PoeJesus christ they really had no idea what to do with Rey.
>>114901982I only saw up to The Last Jedi and didn't even give the latest movie a shot, but up to that point the only Rey ship that made sense was with Ren.
>>114900736Genndy Tartakovsky's 2D Clone Wars show and this are the only Star Wars media to really capture my attention
>>114891588>What's everyone want to see out of a new SW animated show?just something with quality 2D animation like this or Gendy's showI'm tired of shows like Rebels and Resistance. they're cheap looking 3D shows that are only coasting off of the 3D Clone Wars show.
>>114900686I think I'd rather read that over a lot of the ST era books.
>>114902231I haven't seen much of RWBY, but I feel like even Rooster Teeth could pull off a better looking 3D Star Wars cartoon
>>114901862Because sooner or later they're gonna run out of capital ships with that strat. The capital ships are also transport ships, that contain the invasion forces. They serve a purpose bigger than existing just for trade off. Otherwise how are they gonna carry thousands of vehicles and droids?A war isn't just one fight, they require you to set up, capture and defend positions, resources and armament.>>114901902It is imdb.com
>>114902253Agreed
>>114900188Some comics yes. Toywise it's all Clone Wars, ESB anniversary, and Mandalorian, which is weird because Rise was still in theaters only months ago. I guess they knew in advance it wasn't worth pushing more of.
>>114901954>as to WHY the sister has to exist in the first place.Because the latter part of the story was going to look rather different. Luke's sister was originally going to be undergoing her own Jedi training independently of Luke's, and these two threads would converge. The story itself would have taken on a different shape:>I also want to develop Luke’s sister. The idea is that Luke’s father had two children who were twins. He took one of them to an uncle on one side of the universe and one to the other side of the universe, so that they would be safe. If one got killed, the other wouldn’t even know that the other one was there. She also becomes a Jedi—she’s doing the same thing simultaneously that Luke is doing. Eventually in some episode, not this one, we could cope with Luke and his sister, and how she is the female Jedi and he is the male Jedi.Yoda's line was written under the pretense of more than one movie following and a story that we didn't get. It was foreshadowing.
>>114902313This sounds a lot like excuse making when there wasn't much of a clear direction outside of ideas.
>>114901862Because the Federation does not like spending money. And ships are very expensive.
>>114902261Honestly the droids looked amazing, they should just made this the new Droids cartoon
>>114902361He never had more than a vague overall outline at best, this is true. Even Anakin being Vader only first appears in the second draft of TESB. But the point still stands. Yoda's line wasn't arbitrary filler. It was laying the groundwork for movies that we didn't get. You could argue that leaving it unaddressed would have been better than answering it with Leia being Luke's sister, though.
>>114902261Resistance actually looked really good at many points. Problems are largely tonal in nature, because for some godforsaken reason they decided to have... Kaz.
>>114901288Why exactly did Lucas hate Mara Jade?
>>114902270It was the battle for courscant. The decisive battle in the war
>>114902545youtu.be
>>114902545He didn't care for the post-RotJ EU in general:>“I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn’t at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn’t come back to life, the Emperor doesn’t get cloned and Luke doesn’t get married…”As for Mara Jade in particular the only thing I know of is this quote from a guy that worked for the licensing:>“George couldn’t stand Mara Jade. They went out and got some sort of person who looked like she had stepped out of a Cosmopolitan magazine to be the model for Mara, and he just thought the whole thing was so not Star Wars, and not his vision for Star Wars. […] And also she married Luke, and he says ‘Jedi don’t marry.’ So for him, that was important.”I've never liked her either, frankly.
>>114902649>Jedi don't marryI thought that was part of the reason the old Jedi order got fucked in the first place.
>>114902786Here's the thing: George never intended for the Jedi to be viewed in a negative light (while making the prequels), at least in regards to their philosophy.
>>114902786No. It got fucked because Anakin explicitly broke that rule
>>114901288>>114901486>>114901954You make some good points, but you type like a faggot. "Let that sink in". This isn't twitter, you fucking nigger.The point about Padme is probably most relevant. People like to pretend she was an incredibly strong and developed female character, but with the exception of the insurrection she leads in TPM, she's either following Anakin around like in AOTC or just being present like in ROTS. A lot of the feminist icon stuff, for Padme, Leia, Mothma, etc, is all derived from the EU
>>114903080There was a scene showing that she was leading a coalition of senators working against Palpatine's power gains but it was deleted. I actually like that it was deleted because it implied that meeting created the Rebellion and not everything needs to be so interconnected.
>>114896337>using anime facial expressions in western animation Absolutely disgusting
>>114902826Really? Because it seems like Qui-Gon's philosophy was presented as the correct one while the Jedi Council's was not.
>>114903145I need to rewatch that scene, wasn't she kind of passive even in that scene?Agreed that it's better it was removed, it makes more sense that the Rebellion would form on its own after years of Imperial abuse, rather than be something literally created during the Republic era.
>>114893098>Hey kids, do you like fascism?I mean, yeah.
>>114900344>Not even attempting to respond to anything I saidThe OT of Star Wars is never going to go away especially not through short animated clips on a YouTube channel.
>>114872411Han choose the wrong Skywalker twin.
>>114870093Transition Porn
Remember that time Yoda did 9/11 to kill Sheev
>>114883890To frustrate you to your very soul like every other executive in Star Wars. Seriously, dude, wasn't it obvious?
>>114891600Will Pablo survive this time?
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>>114902083>tfw we will probably never know what Anakin would have seen in the Dark Side CaveFeels bad man.
>>114905178Casian needs another target dummy.
>>114893893>God I love Palpatine, he’s so delightfully evil. Even if it was clearly a last minute addition he was honestly the best part of RoS, I just dig this cruel and wicked space wizard.Let's be honest, he was the best part of the entire sequel trilogy, and the door is now wide open for "somehow, Palpatine returned" to keep on happening.
>>114869910I saved a bunch of these when they were posted on /tg/. Generally well received but with a very vocal minority who complained bitterly. Some about pics being spammed, others about things like Leia hitting Luke. That last one was far more prevalent on Holla Forums.
>>114906657There were some decent reaction images. I still see them now and then, but not often.
>>114906690The Yoda ones had potential.
>>114906715
>>114906690Dooku looked marvelous here. Wishing we get an episode on Grievous soon.
I've got a few reaction images.
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>>114906894
>>114906916
>>114872442Imagine if Mother Talzin's final gambit for revenge against Sheev was to groom a young nightsister to produce offspring with the son of the chosen one to recreate a stronger line of Nightsisters.She escaped the fate of the others and hid her identity. When she encounters Luke she's a good decade older than him and is taken by his boyish looks and farmboy charm. Despite him having a slight thing for Leia and needing to go back to Yoda not to mention the upcoming Jabba heist, he feels drawn to this dark and mature woman that he feels a strong force presence in. While on a side mission things get steamy but the Nightsister knows she can't stay so when the morning comes she leaves.New sequel trilogy has Luke allying with a new young darkside user he helped spawn as he shows her the other side of her heritage in the force.
Shit, I have a lot more of these than I thought. Wish I'd converted more from the original png, but I'm lazy.
>>114905620 WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP
>>114906715Cute Luke
>>114903516>Because it seems like Qui-Gon's philosophy was presented as the correct one while the Jedi Council's was not.Qui-gon's philosophy was never at odds with the Jedi Code. Just the, then, current Jedi Council's politics. He always adhered to the Jedi Code. He and they just butted heads because the Council was more concerned with just answering to the Republic Senate instead of answering to the Senate AND the Living Force. And as such they viewed him as a bit of a stubborn loony.>>114902828^This. Anakin is the poster child for why adhering to the Jedi Code is absolutely essential to a Jedi. A Jedi must be compassionate to all life in the universe, but must never play favorites lest it compromise their duty, and thus their service to the greater good. Anakin played favorites in the form of marrying Padme, and as such he was put into a position of compromise and trillions of people died because he wanted to save just her.
>>114908185>A Jedi must be compassionate to all life in the universe, but must never play favorites lest it compromise their duty,Same exact thing that happened to Dooku, and Vos. Not falling in love is essencial
>>114908159That's every Luke.Though that may need testing. Is there one of these with green tiddy milk Luke?
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>>114908827And the gold standard.
>>114869985Looks like some sort of fucked up newer era Scooby Doo anime>You know him?>He was a good friend
>>114908796Fuck, looks like the season 2 stuff is all ST era with maybe some throwbacks to earlier material tucked in.
>>114908827using luke for all the slapstick comedic relief kinda rubs me the wrong way
>>114896333S4 was kino and had some of the best moments in all of Star Wars. Only butthurt ahsoka haters think otherwise.
>>114908915I don't mind too much, though you're not alone in your dislike. Personally I don't really care. They're for kids, they take a lot of liberties, events are extremely compressed, and Luke is hardly the only one who has exaggerated moments of goofiness or being the butt of a joke. Hell, Leia comes off as an unhinged psycho more than once. For as much goofiness as they have they also have plenty of moments where Luke, and the others, are heroic figures.I dunno. If you roll with it, have fun with it, and above all don't take it seriously anyway it's not that offensive.
>>114896333Pleb tier opinion
what season was the helicopter lightsabers?
>>114897495Rebels S4 time travel wasn't a retcon as we see Ahsoka is still alive at the end of S2.
>>114909016Not everyone has to like everything. There's always going to be some divide. My big complaint about Rebels is still that many of the things it had that showed promised never materialized, while some that did eventually happen felt smaller due to their limited budget. You see similar bitching about the new Clone Wars season but they clearly had a lot more cash to work with I still think the whole last season was Disney damage control trying to buy back the fandom.Broadly I liked Rebels. It did way more good than harm, and as I said in a previous thread the funny part about the World Between Worlds is the moment Ezra shows up we hear Obi-Wan's ANH voiceover about how the Force binds the universe together so no shit it turns out the Force can manipulate time. Even Qui-Gon told Yoda as much, too, while admitting it was a rule he couldn't break. With a Loth-Wolf shown in some of the High Republic material I'm curious whether the Lothal Temple and the World Between Worlds will get some exploration. If it does clearly it's still something the Jedi of old realized they shouldn't fuck with and abandoned.Also holy shit Mandalorians always get the short end of the stick. Shattered and in disarray at the end of Clone Wars. Conquered and getting in another civil war in Rebels. Almost extinct by The Mandalorian and his original clan was exposed and destroyed nearly the last member thanks to Mando's actions.
>>114909189End of season 2.
>>114909079It's Jewish propaganda.
>>114909297It left a bad taste in my mouth that Bo was given the darksaber after her role in destabilizing Mandalore in the first place, and now thanks to TCW S7, we know she was also responsible for getting the Republic involved, which soon becomes the Empire and now has an excuse to occupy the planet indefinitely.It felt like an unearned reward for all the terrible shit she did so I'm kind of glad it was taken from her.
>>114909211It IS a retcon, fwiw. Too many people don't understand the term, which is a shame. Retcon stands for retroactive continuity and there's three distinct types of retcons. People are most familiar with retcons used to replace earlier events, the Alteration or Subtractive senses, but some retcons are just Additive. Flashbacks, for instance, and prequels too. In this sense we knew Ahsoka was seen walking around at the end of season 2, this merely revealed how she survived. It didn't alter or remove any previous explanations since none existed, it merely added to what we knew.
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>>114909435Yeah, which is why I don't get why people are triggered by time travel in Rebels and constantly bring it up as a con when it was never used to change any established continuity. There was a setup and payoff. That's good storytelling in my opinion.
>>114909417Bo spent a long time paying for that and trying to make up for her mistakes. She and Pre were used, first by Dooku and later by Maul. It becomes harder to blame them in the long run given they weren't the only ones.I wonder if we'll ever have live action Bo. I'm sure Katee Sackhoff would do it and even wear a red wig.The one that surprised me was Almec in combat with Bo and managing to hold his own for a bit. Either he crammed in some training after Maul took over or (my personal preference) it turns out even the peaceful Mandalorians still practiced all kinds of intensive training, exercise, and martial arts. Purely peacefully and to keep in shame. All very normal and culturally appropriate.
>>114909543>She and Pre were usedThey were using Maul to get what they want: overthrow Satine and rule Mandalore. Maul was just a few steps ahead of them. Don't forget that they also burnt down an unarmed village on that snow planet for shits and giggles.
>>114909542I can understand why manipulating time to that extent bugged them. It's one thing to have the Force hold some dominion over time, especially when you can see the past and future, but to directly manipulate it? That can easily feel like too much, and it was. It's why Ezra had to learn not to do it, and later rebuffed the Emperor. It's clear this is one of the things Sidious wanted, though. The Tarkin book talks about how Sidious wanted far more than Plagueis' mere obsession over immortality, he wanted control over universal forces themselves, and access to the World Between Worlds would let him reshape the history of the galaxy to his own desires.What is curious is that Exogal or Exogel, whichever the fuck it was, is supposed to have another gateway that links to this place and it is speculated that this is how Sidious was rescued from the Death Star II.
Has Ahsoka appeared in this style?
>>114909616Oh they weren't innocent by any stretch. The CIS had similar. As much as they were dupes we've had mad bombers, mad scientists, and even pyromaniac George Takei in his flamethrower tank trying to burn down a village of Scottish lemurs. Welcome to the Clone Wars where the brave and heroic clones are shown taking down busting up Umbaran vehicles and then casually tossing in grenades instead of taking prisoners. At least those guys were military personnel, but then the Umbarans left the Republic after their ambassador was murdered but the Republic wasn't having any of that shit and sent in their military to pacify the world.
>>114909631I don't think so, but there is very little PT stuff shown. I think these mostly cover the main movies.
>>114909621Exegol. It's supposed to have a powerful vergence in the Force located deep under the surface but not much is known about it.
>>114908185As a jedi you can't play favorites but as a person those connections can give you strength. Palpatine might have said that Luke's faith in his friends was his weakness but we all know whose superweapon was blown up.It's not so much that the connection with Padme was wrong (aside from some unhealthy shit) it was the being pressured to hide it and the slow progression of ownership brought on by his great power giving him control of so much.Jedi with connections are fine (look at the old EU) it's when they allow themselves to be controlled by those connections that they are primed to fall.
I'll just say that personally I kind of loathe the ST. Very little in it worthwhile or interesting and definitely not useful as a platform on which to build. I mean a fucking Dark Side cult, not even Force Sensitive themselves, built a spare death fleet with planet destroying weaponry. It makes Baneite Sith look idiotic for taking over a thousand years just for Sidious to finally pull off a decades long gambit manipulating both armies in a vast galaxy spanning conflict.I'll grant you that the Sith cult was stealing technical data from the First Order but still managed to scale down the Death Star's primary weapon to install across an entire fleet.
>>114909542>Yeah, which is why I don't get why people are triggered by time travel in RebelsBecause it's lazy and boring.
>>114904045Not that guy, but she was a bit resistant to the idea until Mon Mothma and Bail Organa bring up their points about Palpatine's power and she agrees. I'm still really disappointed it was removed because the events end up both tying well into the plot and kept her from being reduced to Anakin's sad pregnant wife like the final version.I think the first scene was meant to be before Obi-wan leaves Anakin to meet with the senators, and the second where she mentions a Jedi she trusts is after she tells Anakin that maybe they're on the wrong side (meaning she trusts to tell Obi-wan their plan over Anakin). The final one is her and the other senators having their petition rejected, and she and Anakin share a really tense look before they part since he's on Palpatine's side over hers by that point.I know Lucas shied away from the political talks over the course of the prequels, but that subplot was both simple for the audience and added to the dramatic tension at the climax.
>>114889062Well just as a start, she doesn't look cool. So they've failed at step one.
>>114874026Maybe that guy just overslept on the day they all got new helmets
>>114897495>>114897591If it meant the sequels were no longer canon it wouldn't even be a monkey's paw
>>114910213It also gives a sense of hope, a seed of rebellion planted despite the Emperor winning and the Empire rising triumphant. I can understand him cutting it, however, since he preferred the last view being the New Hope. That was the true source of hope for the future, right?
>>114874248>dat space Iwo Jima at the endYeah, I'm thinking it's kino
>>114909956>Jedi with connections are fine it's when they allow themselves to be controlled by those connections that they are primed to fall.And thus why the Jedi Code forbids those. Like I said, it makes a Jedi open to compromise. If they do not have those connections and instead love everyone equally, like the Code encourages, then that problem is no longer an issue for a Jedi.>look at the old EUBeing as they're not a true or accurate depiction of the Jedi as they were written outside of Geroge's influence and guidance, they should not used as a reference or proof that the allowing of attachments works. It doesn't. Anakin Skywalker irrefutably proved it doesn't work.
>>114911119>Anakin Skywalker irrefutably proved it doesn't work.No he's proof that you should never be friends with a Sith Lord because they can figure out your weak points and manipulate you. Besides he was always incapable of good decision making.
>>114911119>Being as they're not a true or accurate depiction of the Jedi as they were written outside of Geroge's influence and guidance, they should not used as a reference or proof that the allowing of attachments works. It doesn't. Anakin Skywalker irrefutably proved it doesn't work.Luke Skywalker used his attachment to his sister to outmanuver Vader in a lightsaber fight and then his attachment to his father to save Anakin from the darkside. Same thing with ESB Luke saved his friends attachments are a good thing in the Orig Trig.
Cribbed this shit from io9 of all places. Article about how Filoni blew their fucking minds about the PT. Yeah yeah, whatever. But does the furry hat man have a point?>I love the lightsaber fight with Darth Maul. Not because it’s a lightsaber fight but because George is so good at crafting why that fight’s important...In Phantom Menace you’re watching these two Jedi in their prime fight this evil villain...What’s at stake is really how is Anakin going to turn out. Because Qui-Gon is different than the rest of the Jedi. You get that in the movie and Qui-Gon is fighting because he knows he’s the father that Anakin needs. Because Qui-Gon hasn’t given up on the fact the Jedi are supposed to actually care and love and that that’s not a bad thing. The rest of the Jedi are so detached and they’ve become so political that they’ve really lost their way and Yoda starts to see that in the second film. But Qui-Gon is ahead of them all. That’s why he’s not part of the Council. So he’s fighting for Anakin. That’s why it’s the “Duel of the Fates.” It’s the fate of this child. And depending on how this fight goes, Anakin’s life is going to be dramatically different.I suppose it's an interesting what-if? If history had gone another way Qui-Gon survives, becomes Anakin's master, keeps Anakin away from politics (the Chancellor) and the Council, perfects his training over retaining consciousness after death, and by Episode III, since Sidious' goals weren't going to change, he gets to tell the future Emperor that even if he's struck down he'll only become more possible than a Sith could even imagine.
>>114911519>Luke Skywalker used his attachment to his sister to outmanuver Vader in a lightsaber fightLuke used the Dark Side and Vader was imbalanced due to his conflict between loyalty to his master and his son.>his attachment to his father to save Anakin from the darksideLuke was not attached to his father. If he was then he wouldn't have been able to let go of him when he died.>Same thing with ESB Luke saved his friendsBut he didn't save them. If anything, they saved him because he fucked up. It was Lando that set Leia and Chewbacca free and helped them escape, not Luke. >attachments are a good thing in the Orig Trig.No, they're not. An attachment is inherently selfish and as such is an aspect of the Dark Side. A Jedi must be benevolent and compassionate. To form an attachment is counter productive to that end because it means you're showing favor over another life-form based on how they relate exclusively to you. If Luke had not gone to Bespin would his friends have died? Very likely. But ultimately he was the best hope for the galaxy, not them. He put that at risk because of his own selfishness.
>>114911753That's all bullshit and you know it.
>>114911519>ESB Luke saved his friendsHe didn't save anybody. That was the point.
>>114911696The fact Qui-Gon represented a kind of alternate path was always apparent. That's really the sole point of his character. Filoni isn't wrong, but it's an obvious thing to point out.
>>114911870I wouldn't say it's all bullshit. Luke definitely tapped into his anger to defeat Vader. That's part of his realization along with looking from his father's severed robo hand to his own. It's the lesson from the tree all over again only this time Luke finally gets the point of how easily he could become just like Vader, the very thing he hates. Luke is definitely attached to his father, though. Vader through his hate, but Anakin through his love. I'm curious what happens between ESB and ROTJ to convince Luke that there is even something within that armor worth saving. The comics will no doubt provide. I hope it's a satisfying answer. I recall a shittheory from /swr/ was Luke meeting Ahsoka or Rex and learning about the man his father was. The truth beyond all the fantasies Obi-Wan's brief description conjured in Luke's mind.
>>114912061I don't know if I'd call it completely obvious in TPM, especially for the normies. It should have been, really, from Qui-Gon's voice in AOTCs from Yoda telling Obi-Wan that Qui-Gon will train him in how to become a ghost. The revelation is a bit flat in the movies, sorry to say, like a lot of the emotional points. It's definitely better when you factor in season six of TCWs where Yoda learns about Qui-Gon's survival and begins his own training.Just one of those things I think proves that there is nothing really wrong with the story in the PT but that on-screen it's just missing the right kind of qualities to make it truly sizzle.
>>114889286>Too high budget>for Disney and Star WarsThey have all the money in the world at their disposal, and they need to salvage the brand to keep making profit off it.A solid animated series would do the trick.
>>114912523Rich corporations aren't exactly known for spreading it around when they don't get anything in exchange. In fact it's generally by being penny pinching assholes who constantly cheat on and degrade service that they keep making more and more money which they crave. For instance I suspect the reason why the last season of the Clone Wars was so short is they had to balance the money they had. More episodes but poorer quality and less CGI versus few episodes with a higher production value each. And they still wasted a lot of time on the sisters.
>>114902649Mara Jade becoming popular was just the product of a bunch of thirsty neckbeards wanting a hot redheaded chick to lust after.Her character was not compelling or interesting as Zahn wrote her (not calling Zahn bad, just that it wasn't the character) - she was just supposed to be a two bit love interest for Luke with a tragic lovestory, which happened in a lot of the early EU books. She later became a better character in the EU due to the labored alterations of dozens of other writers. But ONLY after she became popular due to being spank bank material.I completely understand why Lucas hated her. I honestly don't understand why so many SW fans are compelled to force her into everything, except that she's a hot redhead.
>>114900948>(Who cleared luke's family bones anyway?It's from Shadows of the Empire, not the nu-EU, but he stayed at Ben's place for a bit while he was making his lightsaber and waiting for Leia and Lando to set up Han's rescue.Swing by his old house, wrap the bones in a pair of tarps, see if anything isn't burned to a crisp, be on his way in less than half an hour.
>>114872442>Who is Mon MothmaAlso, he finally hooked up with Mara Jade when they were both around 40.
>>114912178>I don't know if I'd call it completely obvious in TPM, especially for the normies.Obi-Wan tells us that he failed as a teacher to Vader, and in TPM we see how Obi-Wan was thrust into a position he wasn't ready for. I don't think it's much of a stretch for the audience to therefore imagine that Anakin under Qui-Gon's tutelage would have turned out somewhat different. The biggest problem with Qui-Gon's character in my eyes is how much of his interest in Anakin revolves around the Chosen One prophecy, which was always an incredibly stupid and lazy addition to the story. I think Qui-Gon's significance would've been a lot more apparent -- and Qui-Gon a lot more compelling as a character -- if his emphatic interest in Anakin was more organic and less stodgy. As-is it's just a hackneyed way of making Anakin more important and an overly convenient way of depicting Qui-Gon as independent of the Jedi Council.
>>114905246Post the one with the cat.
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>>114913050>much of his interest in Anakin revolves around the Chosen One prophecyTrue, but I imagine that that would fade as he grew to know Anakin as his apprentice and surrogate son.I can't imagine Yoda would be happy at all about that last bit.
>>114913050It's easy to see why Obi-Wan thinks he failed, but honestly it's less egregious I believe when you factor in that Anakin always had two teachers: Obi-Wan and Palpatine. Obi-Wan did his best, and honestly he didn't do a bad job, but always Palpatine was whispering in Anakin's ears, turning his emotions against him, playing on his ego, his sense that power alone could solve everything, and ultimately that he DESERVED that power. That's why I think a key factor here is that Qui-Gon resisted the politicization of the Jedi. Palpatine forced himself into Anakin's life and the Council, Mace specifically I believe, put up a token resistance but ultimately capitulated. I don't think Qui-Gon would have. He'd have taken the boy away from the Temple itself, taught him the ways of a Jedi outside of the institution, rather than allow that kind of interference.Palpatine wouldn't let it drop at that, so it would ultimately be an interesting thing. If it came to Qui-Gon threatening to point out that the Jedi Council doesn't really have any actual authority over the Force and if Qui-Gon wants to teach someone they can only stop him by imprisoning or killing him, I think they would indeed have backed down. It's not a landmine they wanted to step on.
>>114913453Obi-Wan ends up ruminating on his failings, on all their failings, on Tatooine until eventually Qui-Gon manifests and tells him to stop being a little bitch. Okay, that's a bit much, but he does help his old apprentice learn to let go of that past because it's weighing him down.
>>114912523All products still need to make a profit. You can't just make a cartoon at a loss even if you are Disney. What would the point be?
>>114912178I do like that there is one thing Anakin learned from Ghost Qui-Gon.youtube.com
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God I would kills for some of the games to get animated segments like thisLike Republic Commando, Kotor, or the original Battlefront 2
>>114913865Is Star wars really popular in Japan? I feel like it would be. Seems to have a lot of anime parallels
>>114913991Yes, it actually really is. Don't know what they thought about ST though.
>>114914075I don't think they have the same hate-culture so I'm assuming it's considered disapointing at worst
>>114913865Where can I watch the rest in nip?
>>114914075The reaction to Last Jedi was mixed:forbes.com
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>>114910439Logistics man, overseeing the production of multiple armor sets through multiple phases and some poor trooper is obviously gonna get the shaft cuz his gear on back order.
>>114869985>>114870093The art style reminds me a little of that fanwank Thrawn trilogy animation from a few years back.
>>114900381>girl power translates to being a bitchI don't even mind this instance all that much, it was a bit funny, but why does this happen every single time?
>>114914075lol uh youtube.com
>>114870525>>114870836Genndy was actually George's first pick for Filoni's job, but Genndy didn't want to just do Star Wars TV shows for the rest of his life and George wasn't interested in the animated Viking movie project he was developing, so he ended up turning down the offer.
>>114874248wtf i love the empire now?