Turtle Rocks new game, another fuckimg Coop studio

TF2 is class based.
Overwatch is Character based.

Heroes function exactly like classes

Consider that each class in TF2 can have a drastic change in playstyle depending on the equipped weapons, which is not possible in Overwatch.
You can change your playstyle without changing your character in TF2 so it is class based, unlike Overwatch.

Somehow I saw this response coming a mile off.

Despite the fact that TF2 didn't originally have weapon loadouts, just like all it's predecessors and was significantly better for it.

I don't even play overwatch and I know this is bullshit. You can always change your playstyle no matter how limited your resources are.

Theres also the fact that tf2 is designed so every character looks unique for a gameplay, not aesthetic reason.
Overwatch and ASSFAGGOTS are unique for an aesthetic reason, not a gameplay one.

TF2 has been fucked for a long time, pal. Just let it go.

I mean a drastic change in playstyle in the sense that you can make decisions in your loadout that will make you play completely diferently. Take The Huntsman for example, it causes the Sniper to move in closer to danger in exchange for a faster rate of fire and easier headshots. You can't do anything of the sort in Overwatch because your weapons and abilities are static and cannot be changed, sure, each character has the option to do things differently from the rest but their strengths are weaknesses will not change.

That's irrelevant actually because in the end they are always the same character with the same basic look, personality and backstory. If TF2 didn't have customizable loadouts it would be correct to call it a character based shooter.

Couldn't have missed the point harder. You're using loadouts as the defining attributes of the class-based shooter when not even the most iconic series of the genre originally had them.

Remember when Turtle Rock made Left 4 Dead, and then everyone was pissed because they weren't brought aboard for the sequel?
And then they didn't make a single game for a couple years until Evolve was announced, and everyone rejoiced?

You are missing the point quite a bit yourself. I'm not saying the presence of customizable loadouts is the defining attribute of class based shooters, i'm saying that TF2 is not character based because you can change a class' playstyle drastically while retaining the same character.
The Sniper is a class, it can be altered through unlockable weapons. Mundy is a static character, you can change his appearance but you cannot play Sniper without playing as Mundy. Therefore, because the most fundamental difference between players is beyond the aesthetic level of character and lays at the level of class, TF2 is a class based shooter.

Yeah you aren't explaining yourself well here.

I can't accept the idea of how Overwatch depicts it's classes as actual characters and in doing so refers to them by their character names while traditionally classes in shooters didn't have character which is something TF2 did but still referred to them by their class.

But that is such a shallow distinction which has no bearing on the gameplay. You might as well cut the bullshit and call Overwatch a class-based shooter because that is what it is.

can accept*

What i mean is that it is not necessary but it is acceptable. Each class in TF2 can change a lot depending on its loadout but they always retain certain elements that define them as classes. The Sniper will always be a mid to long range support centered around taking out high value targets, The Scout will always be a close to mid range harasser made with objectives in mid, the Engineer will always be area denial and support, so on and so forth.
I'm fine with calling Overwatch a class based shooter really, i just enjoy arguing technicalities for some ungodly reason.

They were only good when they were Valve's bitch.

They made L4D, and then when they made Evolve people learned the most probable reason why they weren't allowed to make the sequel.

You can do that in Overwatch too, faggot.

Overwatch isn't an ASSFAGGOTS

CRAPCUNTS

I already explained why it's different.
Learn to read, nigger.

Any specific reasons as to why Valve did not let them make a sequel?

L4D2 was made by Turtle Rock

it means hes from reddit

Back to your containmment board

I WANT MULTIPLAYER GAMES TO STOP
THEY'RE ALL THE SAME SHIT

WHERE DID ALL THE GOOD SINGLE PLAYER GAMES GO

No, you think you explained. In reality you're just a retard.

How about you actually look for them instead of letting AAA shovel shit down your throat?

I have.
There has been a few good small games, but none of them were incredible.

They're just meh at best

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Learn to read, nigger.

Wow that might be the worst example you could've probably posted.
EDF isn't meh at best, it's absolutely fucking disgusting.

archive.is/QLizL

Fuck you OP, you made me think there was an actual announcement of a game and not more Jew shit going on.

If you're going to use that horrendous notation, at least have the courtesy to use a symbol for something other than American Dollars. We don't use full stops for thousands separators around here, you dumb shit Europeans.

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You're memeing me cmon

How is this studio still alive? Was the Left 4 Dead money really that abundant that they are still living off of it? A (Single A or Even Double A)studio this small is not supposed to be able to survive a commercial failure as large as evolve and still keep on living.

What?
Do you have autism?

No seriously, kill yourself

Not only that looks like shit, but if the fun of it is in the co-op then you completely missed the point I was making

Its from a F2P publisher
Considering Turtle Rock was a big dev they probably see the chance of working with them for absolutely nothing a nice way to make a buck.

EDF 4.1 is fun, but gets really repetitive after the first 10 hours.

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Sorry you weeaboo faggot, but the game is still repetive whether you play as the air raider or the wing diver or whatever

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Shit son, consider suicide

I'd wager on that

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I only played Fencer after that.

Shit, I'm going to play it again right now

It's fun, but it's still repetitive. Get over it.

I main Raider and you're full of shit
Nice 1 minute Youtube video quick search btw

almost as long as it takes to unlock it in-game :^)

is that some kind of joke?

>>>/back/

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Overwatch clone