Bi-annual DotA 2 thread

Pics or it didn't I don't need to read rusky to see if it's bullshit.

He scrolled down so it's different now.

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You're joking, right?
Right?
RIGHT?
3x Skadi Slarks otherwise

twitch.tv/ns_vp

Dumbass

Your dumb nig

Thanks for the link 90% sure he's full of shit but we'll see.

wr is cancer and so are wr pickers. You guys heard of Windranger's Wanderings? I am pretty sure half of you wankers jerk off to her with porn and shit like that.

And then I get a bunch of noobs in my team who pick heroes like wr and lina even thought they can't play them just because they love jerking of to them.

The only thing that will stack from that is Skadi's stats. So no.

PLEASE

I only jerk it to best girl. Gotta get that deer pussy.

Probably, but it's something rather than nothing.

AdmiralBulldog apparently said russkiefag's patch notes are fake as shit. Fuck this, I'm gonna hit the can.

ded

I'm still trying to comprehend the fact that not only did Valve give a timer for this patch would result in everyone trying to get to it at the same time, but they had an automatic refresh activated at the end of the timer so literally everyone tried to access the page at the same time.

Then I'm gonna go to sleep. I got work in 8 hours.

They did this more than once. Their servers are probably pure fire during the first hour of sales too.

What's the alternative?
Load encrypted content in the back ground, then serve encryption key at end of timer?

Patch ain't gonna hit the main client till the 12th if CyborgMatt is to believed so that's probably the best move.

What's interesting is that valve's steamworks developer knowledge base also went down at the same time.

The timer thing is one problem and of course something like this would happen but as far as AUTOMATICALLY having the page refresh so you are not expecting everyone to refresh once the timer is 0 but to force everyone to refresh at the exact same second is a recipe for disaster.

It being fully implemented was posted on the official blog, if the blog wasn't crashed right now I would link you but…

*being fully implemented on the 12

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pastebin.com/aHU14XuM

This just feels fake as shit. They're not going to put talent trees in dota.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

Yeah full of shit, also tier bullshit is exactly like HotS which is pure cancer.

Let's just hope that it's fake.

bullshit.

There are a few of those out there, I don't know if they are fake or true pastebin.com/qPWrMdYp

Fuck wait
The rusky appears to be on the official website. Jesus Christ it might be real.

I think you fellas might want to start refreshing.
THE TALENT SHIT IS REAL

BLOG IS BACK UP

So they added the same generic Sun Wukong character that every other damn game has and turned Viper into a gay dragon? Wow, so fucking cool.

WHAT THE FUCK

Holy shit its a real!

It's back up, but there's nothing new on the page, and the 7.00 page itself is still in fuckspace.

If they add talents, I'm done with this game, I think.

shouldn't they release that shit on the test client? I installed it earlier today just for this patch.

Also those aren't talent TREES. It's just a small powerup you pick at certain levels that upgrades one of your abilities. There's no 1/2/3% crit -> 1/2/3% crit damage bullshit like old WoW or League of Legends.

this is a public service announcement
dryads are really cute.

Its actually real…
All those meme changes are actually real.

Dota is dead… Again.

It's a slightly less bullshit version of HOTS' leveling shit.

Holy shit guys, Level 25: +1s Hoof Stomp Duration OR Gains Return Aura

Return as a aura sounds op as hell. Imagine that shit on a pudge or axe. But then again how often do you reach level 25?

Good, someone made a thread
I needed a place to panic. Holy shit im paniking what have they done

Shit, you're right.
Sites seems not loeading properly, but they have a section called talents…

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One in ten games in my experience, but it really does depend on the hero you're playing.

God fucking dammit

What's wrong with skill trees, though?

At least Viper looks better now.

New HUD

EVERYTHING IS IN CHINESE NOW

NIGMA BUFF

милый повторение

I thought I was the only one, first the headings looked like code then it's chinese fucking fuck

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FUCKING FINALLY
FUCK

guys stop posting your old ass gif's and start making webm's

what perfect gameplay balance you nigger? People can do less solo and depend more on their gay team. How is that good?

what the fuck

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With the quality of what they're putting out, fucking go for it my man.

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Now you done it

RIP thred

Correct. I won't defend the design choice, but misrepresenting it, like so many are doing in this thread, in order to trash it is silly. Whether or not it's good will depend on how balanced/well thought out/etc it is.

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Nintendo is shit.

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Every time they start a big event this shit happens

Holla Forums hates cs:go and dota2 a lot for some reason. I mean I do see their points, but the people who hate cs:go and dota so much don't hate valve themselves that much.

I do have to admit Dota always felt weird after you hit level 16 (unless you're fucking Invoker) and just stats for the rest of the game didn't feel that amazing, now, there's still some boost that comes from hitting 20 and 25 respectively which I sort of like. Of course it could be done horribly wrong but I have tentative hopes for this system.

Looking forward to seeing the talents for my fave dudes Omni and Yuggernut

I don't think it's Holla Forums. This shit happens in every topic with even a tertiary connection to Valve and or Steam. Some faggot(s) will instantly start saging and greentexting a single word while bitching about DRM. I saw it happen in a fucking SHMUP thread a while ago. Shit's like clockwork, almost like template posting.

Valve is a mess, it's amazing how shitty they are with how much easy money they get.

I forgot playing games are prohibited on Holla Forums.

ENGLISH VERSION UP

It's working now get ibn here

DOTA is only good for porn. Post porn.

that comes later

(impressive very nice)

But
What?

Fucking finally! dota2.com/700

for what purpose

HA, thers a dedicated shitposter every thread since beta in that thread, not to mention if you talk about it at all you get called out.

What does this mean?

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We HOTS now.
And appereantly LoL as well becasue of some rune changes.

That is 50 lvl 1 damage, that is quite huge actually

go back to Holla Forums

Every five levels you can pick between two additional bonuses for the game unique to your hero.

Make me.

Cmon son, it's like you haven't been around on the internet.

YES

this is Holla Forums not Holla Forums you stupid cunt, if i wana LARP about hitler i would go to Holla Forums not Holla Forums

Cry harder.

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No one gives a shit if you got triggered faggot

The item changes are huge

Pretty incredible how they kept changing her fuking name, Blizz weren't satisfied after they dropped Alleria?

learn to read you dumb whigger

Actually the talent tree is copying HoTs which is really baby tier like LoL. HoTs has a lot of cool mechanics though it's just very nerf gunny when it comes to combat

Gonna source that image user?

Finally best item is relevant

time to eat dogs

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Holy shit hell froze over. Slardar got a new model.

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Lich is relevant again, I couldnt be happier

nevermind

YOU CAN BUY HATS FOR VIPER

Guys keep in mind that 25 has been rescaled to be equivalent to level 23, we now have scaling tomes, and twice as many bounties. This entire leveling system is going to be insane.

what has this fucking madman done..

So wait, on top of skills there's now a passive tree each match that you need to pick shit from?

Yes

12 second flare will be missed but silencing 5 guys at once sounds amazing,same with the multiple slows and q nukes.

Holy hell,as the fucker couldn't get more cancerous

Shit,Treant might as well be tree Riki now.

Helm of the Dominator no longer has lifesteal, isn't built from a Morbid Mask anymore. Just has a little HP regen aura.

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thats cool

I guess I should give them credit for doing things in a stale as fuck genre but I can't help but think they'll bloat the shit out of the game with pointless shit it doesn't need and drive it to the ground like TF2.

And omni keeps going down. Good

As long as it doenst move the player around and it doenst have any extra visual effect I think it's ok

repel not being purgable is a huge deal, I'd gladly take it for a couple seconds shorter duration and a longer CD.

Also Thor build just became more viable which gets me my jollys

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS TALENT TREE LOL TIER NONSENSE

this is what libs felt when trump won? holy fuck

POCKET RIKI IS NOW REAL (sort of)

Just what was wrong with the original scepter

LoL talents are for your account and give you like 5 AP top.
These talents seem pretty strong actually, but I'd wish they altered abilities more often instead of just being 75% stats.

TECHIES IS

I was really hoping for something on the tree to make her spiderlings last twice as long, or make her not be able to be seen at all on her web under certain conditions. I am saddened now.

To be fair 200+hp is pretty big for anything but ult AoEs or BF for their survivability.

Anyway,things can be tweaked and fixed later on so who knows what will happen.

All these innate lifesteal talents on heros is really fucking stupid.

Windrunner players belong on a fucking cross

HEY INVOKER
fuck spells

Hey faggots be sure to buy the newest hats, maps and mods while you play my shitty game
Thanks for your support

Why are you talking about ASSFAGGOTS here, and not on your leddit group?

Also check 'em

These talents are fucking broken.
All these hp talent buffs.
All this bonus magic resist.
Free bonus damage for nothing.
This might have well of been called the snowball patch.

Because not every aeon of strife style game is awful?

Dubs checked.
Dota is dead.
Not to shitpost but seriously lads, quit dota when you can. Gookclick is a cancer.

TECHIES CANT SUICIDE ANYMORE?????????????????????????????????????/

+4 mana regen at lv 10
+60 dmg on powershot
Windranger can now farm everything within a 1800 aoe at all times forever.

They can but they have to be under 50% hp

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Oh, well then

haha

No, but proxy mines do 700 damage at lv 4.

Too bad they'll never detonate.

They don't provide vision but give the enemy gold.

They're visible within 400 and take 1.7 seconds to detonate, they're dead kid

Just put the fuckers in trees and cliffs, can you imagine jungling against techies now?

UNF

Well let's just hope all this stuff isnt game breaking and it just adds to the base game as more variety

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youtube.com/watch?v=mIUrOWSdeP8 if you want to see the changes live

Im not sure I can embed a youtube stream

butthurt brigade coming in.

ES can perma stun with the right talents

Welcome.

Basically talent trees improve late game and gimped up supports for another role based on game flow?

Basically they give a greater advantage to the higher level team.

If I wanted to play LoL and HotS I'd go play fucking LoL or HotS, I don't want that fucking garbage in Dota.

Techies changes are a mixed bag.
Nice
Not nice
WHY
OK I guess, wasn't really an issue that deserved removing stacking and invisibility for

FOR WHAT PURPOSE

Less farming more killing.

look like a improvement.

At what point does more killing become less fun?

Crowd control with damage and i bet this bomb have a "ticking noises" what mentally destroy every jungler.

So, which game has the best ass?

I'm opting for smite

Luna.

Please no, you can't nerf techies more than they already have.
I think this is accurate and he'll work that way, but I don't have to like it.
If they did everything except removing stacking at least I could still try to abuse force staff/stasis mines, but what's the point?
Might as well just walk into enemy towers, you'll give up less money that way.
The delay on going invisible, the mana cost increase, and the flat 12s cd, Valve wasn't satisfied with Undying-tier pickrates, they want him to hit Leshrac, at least.

So, which game has the best monkey king?

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Sure is gonna be fun learning all these diffrent skill trees for all these heros and not a pain in the ass. Also didn't they JUST redo the map a little while ago?

I've honestly only played league and smite, dota didn't do it for me, BUT smite has Hun batz who's pretty great

You would be right.

Yes, and they just made dota easier for new players too.

faggots

They should add an easy way to see the possible enemy talents. If they do that it wont be as bad

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Is there any sort of PvE mode to this game ?

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Shut up carlos, nice fucking digits though

There are custom maps, its not as good like warcraft 3 tho.

You can also have a team against bots.

Hun Batz is actually the model of the old Monkey King spruced up to be Aztec/Mayan before they redesigned him like this.

I didnt say it's a good change, I was just talking about the extra dificulty memorizing all changes

80% of the game is pve

I miss geomancer.

Old wukong looked like shit

The entirety of Smite when it first released looked like complete ass.

bi annual go back to reddit

This tbh

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Nice sage.

farming is what separated dota from other games. Farming is a serious skill, you stack, you have to last hit, you have to deal with enemy denies.

You won't appreciate the beauty that is old Sun Wukong if you didn't get to experience it.

First to go back Carlos

wew

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Disappointed.

I mean this should prevent junglers to ignore teamfight because they are more benefit from gaining XP with new system.

Phantom ASSassin Arcana

anyone has figured out how to play him best yet? so far I would say the best way is to play him ember style, go in, deal damage, gtfo.

I would go first item phase boots followed by blink then basher into abyssal.

Except they have runes in their jungle now.

Fug i forgot about map changes.

Land Mines renamed to Proximity Mines
Proximity Mines are no longer revealed with True Sight, and instead become visible when there is an enemy within 400 AoE.
Proximity Mines detonate whenever an enemy is standing in the AoE for 1.6 seconds (if you walk in and out instantly, it doesn't explode).
Proximity Mines require 1.75 seconds to be active and invisible.
Proximity Mines can no longer be auto-attacked (via attack-move).
Proximity Mines damage type is now Magical.
Proximity Mines cooldown increased from 9/8/7/5 to 12
Proximity Mines damage increased from 150/190/225/260 to 225/400/575/750
Proximity Mines mana cost is 110/130/150/170.
Proximity Mines do full damage in the AoE (rather than half at a certain radius).
Proximity Mines can no longer be placed within the active AoE of another Proximity Mine (400 AoE).
Proximity Mines have 1 HP.
Proximity Mines deal 25% damage to buildings.
Proximity Mines bounty changed from 10/14 gold/XP to 30/0
Proximity Mines now do damage based on the current level of the ability, rather than its level when placed.
Proximity Mines must be directly targeted to be attacked.
Quell can no longer target Proximity mines (Quelling Blade, Iron Talon, Battle Fury).

Replaced Suicide Squad Attack with Blast Off
Blast Off is a 400 AoE spell and has a 1000 cast range; propels you towards the target location and then explodes
Blast Off deals 300/400/500/600 Magical damage and silences enemies for 4/5/6/7 seconds.
Blast Off deals 50% of your Max HP to yourself upon landing at the destination.
Blast Off has a 35 second cooldown.
Blast Off has a 1 second cast time.

Stasis Trap now roots enemies instead of stunning.
Stasis Trap no longer has a 1.5 detonation delay.
Stasis Trap activation time increased from 1.5 to 2
Stasis Trap Trigger radius reduced from 450 to 400
Stasis Trap effect radius increased from 450 to 600
Stasis Trap root duration is 2/3/4/5.
Stasis Trap no longer expire.
Stasis Trap no longer gives vision, but reveals the area upon detonation.

Remote Mines now have a 0.25 second Detonation delay.
Remote Mines cast time reduced from 1.5 to 1.0
Level 10: +20 Movement Speed OR +2 Mana Regen
Level 15: +25% XP Gain OR +200 Cast Range
Level 20: +120 Gold/Min OR -60s Respawn Time
Level 25: +400 Blast Off Damage OR 25% Cooldown Reduction

How am i supposed to cancer it up now

it destroys her face and ass.

you mean level 1 junglers? Because that really shouldn't be a thing in dota unless the enemy lane is so fucking strong you have no other option.

Do you even play this fucking game?

He's going to be a mid with early ganking capabilities turn right click carry late game. His ability to come from weird ass directions into the lane is strange. Also, does anyone know if Monkey is in a tree can people see him or do they need aerial vision?

It's not the most common thing but even fucking Crystal can jungle level one.

>>>/cuckchan/

You fucked up.

i want to fuck doe pussy in her doe asshole

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That face is fucking hideous.
Delete that image and find a better one.

fucking yes

They're the originals from the patch page

How does it feel to be retarded?

I play with friends only, this game is way to cancer to play solo. And eu servers are waaay worse than your us servers, the people on our servers never know the current meta.

A lot of heroes can jungle at level 1, some of them can even outlevel safelane carry. Sniper for example can cliff jungle on radiant side and outlevels safelane if you don't mess up stacks.

the point is that it is not a good strategy. You weaken your lane, the jungler gets a lot less farm than safelaner would, it's just overall bad.

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here you are user

well at least the new HUD looks nice and i will finally be able to practice with non-shit bots

Poor fucking taste.

if you pick a hero who can jungle, like lc and the enemy dual offlane turns out to be way to strong to deal with, like bristle back kotl or something like that, you have no option but to go to jungle. There is no reason to be afk in your lane getting like 1 cs a min while the enemy free farms.

Much better, now I feel sorry for posting

My bad.

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kek.

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at least add a fucking random delay on the refresh so they're not all trying to access on the same second. that's the canonical 'avoid deadlock' quick fix thing software people with non-zero amounts of experience do.

Speaking about Monkey King's disguise bullshit, there's Silencer's innate intelligence steal. Does anyone else think Valve is gonna start throwing abilities left and right for everyone?

It's not in the meta right now sure but to say that level one jungle isn't possible is bull shit. Depending on what MMR your playing on it's perfectly fine.

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Is the dota team even more retarded than the TF2 team?

Time for porn

Talents.

that's not a doe pussy.

that's a human vulva, therefore it is anatomically wrong being on the animal end thus absolute garbage. artist is trash.

get better taste.

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post real doe pussy if you're so great

Talents isn't the same. Level 0 both Monkey King and Silencer have an ability.

Wow, what a fucking furry faggot.

I never said that it is impossible, I said that you shouldn't do it, laning/ganking is always better than jungling.

Stop posting shit porn.
Give me some Lich.

I wish I had lich porn

You have good taste user

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Backpack
FUCKING BACKPACK
Its pretty good for support carrying ward and shit.

They're better be able to see him.
His jump os a 2 sec CD with no manacost.
The only downside is that if the tree gets destroyed he's stuned for 4 sec.
So always have Timber or BM when going agsaint him I guess.

Season 2 when

Just lovely. Where is my lich videogame where I raise my power and build an army to lay waste to the entire realm?

Soon. he paid for another season. Wait for 2017.

Wow it's fucking nothing

Don't do this to me user you better be right

I feel like its fine except that 6 seconds might not be long enough to prevent swapping in something active, initiating, then swapping back to something else for longer fights or a chasedown. If you do it with a blink dagger it's not like having essentially an empty slot for 6 seconds is any different anyway.

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He just hire another animation studio instead koreans

There's a thread about it on /a/. You had better read the LN otherwise you're gonna get your shit spoiled

All them buffs to visibility/killing mines and you still mad? You just got massive area denial abilities user. If they set off one, they're not gonna keep going.
Unless bkb lmao

wew

I agree with you, its probably will be nerfed sooner or later.

why does every aos clone need a monkey king?

Because China needs to fucking burn.

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anyone has that carry lich pic?

Shit.

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Asians have a massive hardon for Journey to the West.

DotA was actually game in the subgenre to toy around with the idea but the hero was never released so it became a sort of injoke with the WC3 DotA community whenever new versions rolled around.

is he really that big over there? isnt that like putting tom sawyer in every game marketed towards americans?

This game was in a really good state a few patches ago but nope. Had to completely throw everything up in the air for the esports faggots. Thank fuck I stopped playing this ages ago.

He deserves it for picking Techies.

*the first game in the subgenre

5 gold is nothing.

Now game punishes passive play.

This game will literally always be shit in NA because most of the player base is all in EU and China, so NA servers are nothing but an extension of Peru and Brazil and effectively unplayable.

I'm still butt-mad about the STUNNED bar and text. Gotta get them ez-2-read stats for the viewers!
Talents, I'll wait and see, it's gonna be too fucking easy to just pick one of the 2 options in like 90% of games like
- Lvl 25 furion : +6 trees or -30s respawn GEE I WONDER WHICH ONE IS ACTUALLY USEFUL FOR THE WAY THE HERO IS PLAYED SPECIALLY AFTER ALL THE TOWER/STRUCTURE/DEFENSE BUFFS

Oh man, I'd never heard of this guy.
That abandon was magical.

How can a nigger be THIS fucking ignorant?

It just seems really odd to me to add this. I suppose it punishes the illusion split pushing heroes.

Nigger what? Why the fuck did they add that?
My main problem with talents is that it adds more ambiguous shit to keep an eye on as the enemy. Unless they make it really easy to see what the fuck it is they picked within a glimpse then it's going to be shit.

I didn't say it was perfect.

When everything is broken, nothing is. It's an unorthodox way of balancing a game yet astoundingly successful.

Morphling is only strong if no one picks counters. One silence, mana control or blood and he's shit

why is all this shit in test and not live?

He used to have a shitload of nice griefing videos but he deleted most of them because his profile gets reported a lot.

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They really did it: the madmen tried to make it into Lol. It doesn't even feel like Dota anymore.

Why?! No one likes this shit.

Again, it looks like Lol more than Dota. If I want Lol, I'll play Lol. Sniper doesn't need a fucking scepter. All of the new scepter stuff is retarded.

They just look like Lol characters now.

What's the point of playing Techies?! They just killed the whole purpose of the character. He's supposed to be a high-risk, high-reward hero.

Meanwhile, Source 2 is still an unstable piece of shit that will kick you out of Dota.

Reasons.

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Seeing the swirly icon on top of heroes head was too hard, so therefore: text and bar.
It's also a direct buff for chain stuns, as you don't have to learn the feel of stun lengths any more.
And people wonder why classic support choices are nowhere in this patch. I think only Rubick is seeing play, but that's because of his ult more than anything.

Because it'll be in live tomorrow. Probably a precautionary measure against any absolutely game breaking bugs.

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Look at the max stun value; then look at the cooldown.

this, I don't remember what it was but there were some serious bugs back then when ancient necro was a thing. I do remember him being able to solo rosh. I think there was something else too.

Come on that meme was proven to be useless months ago

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the must always be a lich monkey king

I think I'm going to have fun just from how fucking crazy everything is gonna be

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The new map looks like a poor custom edit. They couldnt make new stairs or new elements to make the new areas more natural, nope they hamfisted old assets anywhere

Y'know I like the once in a blue moon Doto threads on 8/v/, they remind me of the old days before Dota 2 threads became /d2g/ and /sc2g/ caused the Holla Forums /vg/ split.

That sunstrike.

ez

Thanks for posting all these user, they're gold.

THANKS REDDIT

I just don't get it. Why talent trees? Nobody likes talent trees.

Why bother using them at this point?!

I hope someone dies from cancer because of these ideas.

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It's not impossible by the way i have masturbated to 3D porn of it

Not to try and defend the retarded talents, but the objection people have with HotS' talents are that you unlock new ones the longer you play as the hero, and the unlocked talents are always FAR better than the starting ones. I can somewhat see it making sense if every hero has a static tree of talents to select.

Dog dick has a knot on it that inflates when a dog gets near orgasm, to lock himself to his female and ensure insemination.

those arent balls, user

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They got rid of talent gating in HoTS last year. My beef with talent trees are half of the choices are stupid 90% of the time, and most of them aren't situational. Even without the talent gating, HoTS is still a shitty game. My head hurts from reading all of the shitty options the Dota talent trees give you.

Talents are neat, but both LoLta 2 and HOTS do them horribly.
A number of early UMS in WC3 and SC2 had similar concepts to these changes but did them infinitely better.

Now, in defense of the talent trees, Dota had a leveling system that took you all the way to level 25 but only used 15 of those slots for abilities and the rest for stats. As per my experience, I can count the number of times I have skilled stats over any skills and hitting level 25 felt completely pointless (unless you were Invoker two patches ago). As per complaints that the talent tree has a lot of shitty pointless stat boosts as opposed to ability augments, currently there a few (0 mana for Wraith King ult, pierces spell immunity for others) but just like Aghanim's, not everyone is going to have one at first and it can be changed overtime.

One thing I notice is that the most drastic talents are actually in the hands of supports, which also tend to get the options of more XP/gold instead of stats. This might be a move towards making supports scale into the late game without turning them into carries.

This including the backpack option which means no one really has to sacrifice item slots for support items gives me so much hope as well for a new meta for character positions.

There's a very definite possibility that we're gonna start seeing heroes tradition from one role into another between the early and late game so that they maintain peak effectiveness.

Not sure about some of the picks (need to play them to see what it means) but Broodmother's really stuck out to me; you can make her much tougher, or more ganky as well as the obvious 'spiderlings munch through the waves/towers better' one at the end.

With damage Talent and right stealing spells Rubick can be a semi-carry now.

At the end of the day someone will still have to pay for the support items and can be considered the hard support in end game, it's just now that hard support can now purchase an item that wards are no longer in say.

How the fuck does that work?

It throws 3 in a cone. one down the middle and two at a 45 degree angle.

Wait, does that mean arrow shotgun + double starfall can be a thing

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Well not 45 more like 25?

YES

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Only at level 25

A lot of these abilities are cool but basically pointless when everyone is swinging BKBs around. Like CM can have 200 more damage on her ult at 25 but nobody is going to be BKB-less when she's 25.

On the other hand plenty of other level 25 make stuns pierce BKB, Vengful for instace.

Well thinking about it, how many games have you been in that have gone on so long that supports have got 25?

Few but that was before double bounty and scaling tomes. Also, the required xp to reach 25 in the new patch is equivalent to reaching 23 in the old version.

that was also before illusions gave gold and experience as well

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I know it doesn't mean much when you're level 25 but WEW

SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT MEDUSA

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She got the most boring talents

That goes to my girl Razor sweet user.

I now want to know what Razor looks and sounds like under that helmet.

Also nice to know she's bare down there.

Post yfw talent trees made Orge magi a viable right click carry

Yup, Techies are still trash. Fuck you, Icefrog.

Doesn't look that viable.

It takes a while to pick up but look at this.

Ogre can now get extra gold from not only his W which was good before but get a battlefury, an orchid, a basher if you're feeling frisky and go to pound town. With the gold passive and his attack speed buff Ogre hits fast and walks fast with is basically a free yasha. He has a stun which is lovely, he has two sources of farm (w and gold passive). I'm not saying he's a hard carry but play him mid and destroy

I cant be the only won that hates all of 7.00 can I?

Not much point in hating it until I play it myself tomorrow

wait it comes out tomorrow? Damn dotes is dead to me tomorrow then

Harass enemy offlaner. ~100-130 damage is alot, for a CM

Why is anyone still in lane when a Crystal is level 10?

It comes out officially tomorrow you can play it in the test client right this moment.

Didn't they re-scale xp and levels? From what I heard the new level 25 is like the old 23. It is very possible that you reach higher levels in laming stage with this new system.

Still hope someone makes a 6.89 custom game so people can still go back to the "normal" game at some point.

For better or worse,shit's changed from top to bottom and I don't really know what to think of that.

Offlane/agressive treant best treant?
Also SD talents are fucking garbage.

lel guys do you happen to know how to disable help on new ui? I think valve just enabled some serious griefing with this change.

The game is over. It was fun while it lasted.

They did but I still don't think it's reasonable for anyone but the mid to reach level 10 in the laning stage. They might have revamped it but I don't think THAT much.