CITIZENSHIP ON CENSUS

Dominic Wood
Dominic Wood

breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/26/big-victory-for-president-trump-commerce-department-puts-u-s-citizenship-question-back-on-census/

TL;DR: COMMIEFORNIA JUST LOST A SHIT TON OF ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES

In a historic moment for President Trump’s administration, Commerce Department Secretary Wilbur Ross has announced that a question asking United States residents if they are American citizens will be placed on the 2020 Census.

Ross made the announcement late on Monday evening, writing in a statement:

After a thorough review of the legal, program, and policy considerations, as well as numerous discussions with Census Bureau leadership, Members of Congress, and interested stakeholders, Secretary Ross has determined that reinstatement of a citizenship question on the 2020 decennial census questionnaire is necessary to provide complete and accurate census block level data.

Since 1950, the citizenship question has not been asked on the full Census, leaving the nation without an exact estimate of how many citizens are in the country and how many noncitizens and illegal aliens are in the country.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach told Breitbart News that the move to put the citizenship question back on the Census was a historic victory for Trump’s administration and one that will result in more accurate unemployment data and a better estimate of the illegal alien population.

“This is one of Trump’s most important accomplishments as president,” Kobach told Breitbart News in a late night interview. “This is right up there with Neil Gorsuch being appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court.”

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census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/losangelescountycalifornia/PST045216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sandiegocountycalifornia,CA/PST045216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocountycalifornia/INC110216
census.gov/quickfacts/NY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/newyorkcountymanhattanboroughnewyork/INC110216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/bronxcountybronxboroughnewyork/INC110216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/kingscountybrooklynboroughnewyork/INC110216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/queenscountyqueensboroughnewyork/INC110216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/richmondcountystatenislandboroughnewyork/INC110216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/cookcountyillinois/PST120216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/houstoncountytexas/PST045217
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/maricopacountyarizona/PST045216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/philadelphiacountypennsylvania/PST045216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/bexarcountytexas/LND110210
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/dallascountytexas/PST045216
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/santaclaracountycalifornia/INC110216
haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-new-u-s-census-category-to-include-israeli-1.5372299

Colton Barnes
Colton Barnes

I feel like I gotta ask this although it might be stupid. Is there a safeguard against lying on the Census?

Brayden Hughes
Brayden Hughes

Unfortunately, any electoral college adjustments will be well after the 2020 election.

The bright side is that we'll now know if it's just a mere 15 million illegals or 30 million who've invaded our country.

Blake Hernandez
Blake Hernandez

It's a punishable offense, with a $500 penalty for those caught.

codes.findlaw.com/us/title-13-census/13-usc-sect-221.html

Luke White
Luke White

I highly doubt illegals will voluntarily mark themselves as non citizens.

Adam Butler
Adam Butler

So is being an illegal immigrant.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

implying illegals can read and write in English

Your (((judicial system))) lets violent criminals off the hook for violent and drug offenses due to racism. Illegal immigration is the simplest problem to resolve, yet the inefficiencies of democracy have corroded your nation by clogging up this system to defend the so-called rights of aliens. The American courts are jester-courts.

Josiah Roberts
Josiah Roberts

So what you're saying is that every Illegal either admits to being illegal, or is breaking the law, sinking the argument that they're otherwise law-abiding?

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

that's nice now all we need is someone to enforce laws

Jason Taylor
Jason Taylor

You know it won't happen. Even so, illegals will just claim they don't know how to read English properly, and they'll be let off with a slap on the wrist: "Do not do it again."

Grayson Allen
Grayson Allen

AMERICA BELONGS TO AMERICANS

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Ayden Hall
Ayden Hall

We will still need that petition to not count census results from sanctuary cities.

Liam Lewis
Liam Lewis

why would illegals take the census and then further put the fact that they are illegal on the census.

Joseph Jenkins
Joseph Jenkins

i thought this was voluntary, it's not, assuming they want to actually fine you for it, they can fine you $100 for refusing to submit it. i don't see how they can track this though. they don't know who lives at the residence, they just send it to the address and it's addressed "to the resident of:". if it's a house fine, but if it's an apartment building or anything else.. i just don't see them actually enforcing it.

Benjamin Cooper
Benjamin Cooper

question on census about citizenship
Oh that's intere-
self-reported

Some of you are incredibly stupid, and it makes me sad, because I now have to demonstrate how stupid you are, and such demonstrations are painful on at least two fronts.

Owen Brown
Owen Brown

Only slightly worse than worthless. The media will say "Look! Only 500,000 illegal immigrants" or whatever percentage accidentally marked "not a citizen." Everyone will know the figure is bullshit except for the most retarded of boomers and they were voting dem anyway.

Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

You forget that the left has been openly flauting their illegal status. There's a restaurant in my city called "Illegal Tacos" for fuck's sake.

Elijah King
Elijah King

Why haven't you called ICE on them?

Julian Jones
Julian Jones

It's a felony to lie on form 4473, but no one ever gets charged, much less convicted.

Jonathan Garcia
Jonathan Garcia

Never underestimate their stupidity and hubris. 13% of legal and illegal immigrants admit to voting, and this was back in 2015. Technically, they all could be classified as illegal since legal immigrants who have voted committed a felony. There will be mass campaigns to advise illegals how to answer the census "correctly," but I suspect many will answer the census honestly, and every little bit helps.

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Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

Implying user. Implying.

Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

The leadership in the Communist Republic of California will instruct their voters to just lie. This is the same place that warned illegal fucking aliens that ICE was conducting a raid. These communist fucks are desperate for votes and their whole tech economy depends on importing pajeets and chinks so they mask their ploy for votes as some bullshit humanitarian crisis and a lack of skilled labor. Fucking joke. Fuck commifornia and fuck (((democracy)))

Michael Gray
Michael Gray

It doesn't matter.
Watch carefully.

Brayden Perry
Brayden Perry

White Alone - White Alone,Not Hispanic = 'White Hispanic'
'White Hispanic' / Hispanic = % of Hispanic which is 'White'

John Gray
John Gray

CALIFORNIA
census.gov/quickfacts/CA
White Alone: 72.7%
Hispanic: 38.9%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 37.7%

72.7 - 37.7 = 35% 'White Hispanic'
35 / 38.9 = 90% of Hispanic is 'White'

LOS ANGELES COUNTY - 2nd Largest US City
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/losangelescountycalifornia/PST045216
White Alone: 71%
Hispanic: 48.5%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 26.5%

71 - 26.5 = 44.5% 'White Hispanic'
44.5 / 48.5 = 91.7% of Hispanic is 'White'

SAN DIEGO COUNTY - 8th Largest US City
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sandiegocountycalifornia,CA/PST045216
White Alone: 75.9%
Hispanic: 33.5%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 46%

75.9 - 46 = 29.9% 'White Hispanic'
29.9 / 33.5 = 89.3% of Hispanic is 'White'

SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocountycalifornia/INC110216
White Alone: 53.5%
Hispanic: 15.2%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 40.9%

53.5 - 40.9 = 12.6% 'White Hispanic'
12.6 / 15.2 = 82.3% of Hispanic is 'White'

Landon Phillips
Landon Phillips

NEW YORK
census.gov/quickfacts/NY
White Alone: 69.9%
Hispanic: 19%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 55.8%

69.5 - 55.8 = 13.7% 'White Hispanic'
13.7 / 19 = 72% of Hispanic is 'White'

NEW YORK CITY - Each City borough is also State county.
Manhattan - New York County.
Bronx - Bronx County.
Brooklyn - Kings County.
Queens - Queens County.
Staten Island - Richmond County.

NEW YORK COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/newyorkcountymanhattanboroughnewyork/INC110216
White Alone: 64.6%
Hispanic: 26%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 46.9%

64.6 - 46.9 = 17.7% 'White Hispanic'
17.7 / 26 = 68.1% of Hispanic is 'White'

BRONX COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/bronxcountybronxboroughnewyork/INC110216
White Alone: 44.9%
Hispanic: 56%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 9.2%

44.9 - 9.2 = 35.7% 'White Hispanic'
35.7 / 56 = 63.8% of Hispanic is 'White'

KINGS COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/kingscountybrooklynboroughnewyork/INC110216
White Alone: 49.2%
Hispanic: 19.2%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 36%

49.2 - 36 = 13.2% 'White Hispanic'
13.2 / 19.2 = 68.8% of Hispanic is 'White'

QUEENS COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/queenscountyqueensboroughnewyork/INC110216
White Alone: 48.2%
Hispanic: 28%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 25.3%

48.2 - 25.3 = 22.9% 'White Hispanic'
22.9 / 28 = 81.8% of Hispanic is 'White'

RICHMOND COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/richmondcountystatenislandboroughnewyork/INC110216
White Alone: 76.6%
Hispanic: 18.4%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 61.8%

76.6 - 61.8 = 14.85 'White Hispanic'
14.8 / 18.4 = 80.4% of Hispanic is 'White'

Andrew Carter
Andrew Carter

CHICAGO ILLINOIS - 3rd Largest US City
COOK COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/cookcountyillinois/PST120216
White Alone: 65.6%
Hispanic: 25.3%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 42.4%

65.6 - 42.4 = 23.2% 'White Hispanic'
23.2 / 25.3 = 91.7% of Hispanic is 'White'

HOUSTON TEXAS - 4th Largest US City
HOUSTON COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/houstoncountytexas/PST045217
White Alone: 71.9%
Hispanic: 10.7%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 62.3%

71.9 - 62.3 = 9.6% 'White Hispanic'
9.6 / 10.7 = 90% of Hispanic is 'White'

PHOENIX ARIZONA - 5th Largest US City
MARICOPA COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/maricopacountyarizona/PST045216
White Alone: 83.7%
Hispanic: 30.7%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 56.1%

83.7 - 56.1 = 27.6% 'White Hispanic'
27.6 / 30.7 = 90% of Hispanic is 'White'

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

PHILADELPHIA PA - 6th Largest US City
PHILADELPHIA COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/philadelphiacountypennsylvania/PST045216
White Alone: 44.8%
Hispanic: 14.4%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 34.9%

44.8 - 34.9 = 9.9% 'White Hispanic'
9.9 / 14.4 = 69% of Hispanic is 'White'

SAN ANTONIO TEXAS - 7th Largest US City
BEXAR COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/bexarcountytexas/LND110210
White Alone: 84.8%
Hispanic: 59.9%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 28.2%

84.8 - 28.2 = 56.6% 'White Hispanic'
56.6 / 59.9 = 94.5% of Hispanic is 'White'

DALLAS TEXAS - 9th Largest US City
DALLS COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/dallascountytexas/PST045216
White Alone: 67.2%
Hispanic: 39.9%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 29.8%

67.2 - 29.8 = 37.4% 'White Hispanic'
37.4 / 39.9 = 94% of Hispanic is 'White'

SAN JOSE CALIFORNIA - 10th Largest US City
SANTA CLARA COUNTY
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/santaclaracountycalifornia/INC110216
White Alone: 54.8%
Hispanic: 25.9%
White Alone, Not Hispanic: 32.3%

54.8 - 32.3 = 22.5% 'White Hispanic'
22.5 / 25.9 = 87% of Hispanic is 'White'

Oliver Davis
Oliver Davis

You see, user, the spics lie on the census with great regularity - they call themselves Whites.

Now, I could be wrong, buuuuuuut I'm pretty sure when the census taker asks them "Are you a citizen of the US?", they're going to say "Yes", right after they answer "White Hispanic" for the question of race.

Alexander White
Alexander White

ALSO OF NOTE:
haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-new-u-s-census-category-to-include-israeli-1.5372299

New U.S. Census Category to Include Israeli Option
What racial category do Jews belong in, anyway?

NEW YORK – Does being Jewish mean being part of a race? Or a religion? What ethnicity are Jews?
Many American Jews have found these questions difficult to answer every 10 years, when a census taker knocks on the door as part of the decennial national head count.
The only choices: white, black or Asian for race and, under ethnicity, Hispanic/Latino dont quite fit the way many American Jews – and others – see themselves.
Religion is not asked about at all, for reasons rooted both in privacy concerns and objections by American Jewry in the years immediately following the Holocaust.

Now the United States Census Bureau is testing a new category, Middle East-North Africa or MENA, in response to more than three decades of lobbying by Arab American organizations for a designation that better represents them.
The testing, to start in September, will refine wording and sub-categories for the 2020 census.
Nineteen options will be offered under the MENA designation, among them Israeli and Palestinian, as well as Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, Turkish, Iranian, Moroccan and Algerian. Even Sudanese and Somali are being considered.

Most Arabs dont consider themselves white, said Samer Khalaf, national president of The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, which has long lobbied for a more accurate label than white.
Khalaf was one of 30 participants in a May 29 meeting convened by the U.S. Census Bureau so that researchers and representatives of MENA communities could discuss and offer feedback on the proposed changes.

Sebastian Lee
Sebastian Lee

Its a little arrogant for the government to dictate to any citizens what you should be identified as, Khalaf told Haaretz later.
The MENA category was a bit of a compromise for us. In a perfect world wed have an Arab category. Instead, they agreed to settle on the geography-based MENA designation.

At least some in the Israeli-American community welcome the addition of a MENA option, though others prefer not to label themselves.

At a time when notions of race and ethnicity in America, like gender, are increasingly fluid, what will the addition of this category mean for the American Jewish community?
If Israelis choose to be identified as part of MENA, will that in any way separate them from American Jews who opt for white?

And as the meaning of race is being refracted through the lens of the Rachel Dolezal scandal, after the head of the Spokane, WA NAACP chapter was outed as white, though she long identified as black, will these census changes serve to clarify ethnic identity in America or cloud the issues further?

Jeremiah Wood
Jeremiah Wood

Every census since the first in 1790 has asked about race, and every decade has struggled to draw an increasingly complicated portrait of Americans that takes into account how people see themselves and how they are seen in government data, said DVera Cohn, a census expert at the Pew Research Center.
In the early U.S., race issues were black and white.
Now, with growing immigration from around the world, increased intermarriage and more children being born to couples of different races, the race and ethnicity question has gotten vastly more complicated than it used to be.
I thought we were always a nation of immigrants…
Race used to be regarded as fixed. You were one race for your lifetime. Now race and ethnicity can change and often reflect the times we live in.

The census needs to catch up, admits a senior U.S. Census Bureau official.

The country is diversifying.
Increasingly our current questions are not working very well.
Increasingly we have more Americans not answering the race question, said Roberto Ramirez, assistant division chief of special population statistics at the Census Bureau. Were testing the MENA category because its coming from the community.

Respondents choose to identify however they wish to have their race and ethnicity recorded.
Two people of the same background might have different ways of identifying themselves on the same census questionnaire, said Steven Gold, a sociologist at Michigan State University who studies Israelis in the U.S.

Michael Barnes
Michael Barnes

It was only in 2000 that the census questionnaire for the first time did not require respondents to choose between racial and ethnic identities.
Rather, they could select all that applied, like black and Hispanic or white and Latino, said Shaul Kelner, associate professor of sociology and Jewish studies at Vanderbilt University.
Now people will be able to choose, for instance, white and MENA, or just MENA.

Census data is used to enforce civil rights and voting rights laws, and by scholars and interest groups to track the size and characteristics of various communities, from education and income to employment, housing patterns and Internet use.
We allocate billions of dollars to state and local governments based on these counts, said Ramirez.

The last change to the race and ethnicity categories was in 1970, when Hispanic was added as an option to some questionnaires.
In 1980 it became part of the form distributed to every household.
While the census bureau is testing MENA and other issues under consideration for changes in the 2020 census, ultimately it is up to the White House Office of Management and Budget and the U.S. Congress to approve new classifications, Ramirez said.

Austin Thompson
Austin Thompson

To date, the only way to glean the contours of foreign-born communities has been through a census question asking where respondents were born.
But that doesnt capture peoples real sense of national/racial/ethnic identity, particularly when it comes to a country like Israel, where people are often born in other countries and there is a great deal of mobility.

Oren Heiman, chairperson of Moatza Mekomit, was part of the May 29 census meeting in Washington and is a good illustration of some of the unique challenges of Israeli identity:
Born in Cincinnati, Ohio, he moved to Israel at the age of 9, where he lived in Herziliya until age 30.
Now an attorney in New York, Heiman has lived here for many years and is returning shortly to Israel with his wife and infant daughter.
Since he previously answered American-born, until now he would not have been counted by the U.S. government as Israeli, though it is very much the way he identifies himself.

How do you count people who deem themselves Israeli, have Israeli citizenship, did the military, speak Hebrew at home and children who have both parents Israeli?
Now if you have a MENA category, with Israeli in a drop-down menu, they can, he said in an interview.

But some Israelis dont even like the notion of being identified that way on a U.S. Census.

Oliver Sanchez
Oliver Sanchez

Ronit Lavi was born in St. Petersburg, Russia, to a Jewish mother and Lithuanian father.
She emigrated to Israel alone as a young teenager, becoming religious, and Hebraized her name.
Lavi, who is now a physical therapist in Brooklyn and lives in Sheepshead Bay, a heavily Russian-Jewish neighborhood, stayed in Israel for 16 years.
Blond and with a fair complexion, she was catcalled by Israeli men and teenagers when she lived in Jerusalem.

Israel was the place where I experienced my first racial issues, Lavi, the mother of a 5-year-old daughter, told Haaretz.
It was frustrating how often I was referred to as Russian, whether it was on the streets or in public offices.
Israel was the place where eventually, the sense of alienation and differentiation made me re-think the concept of national belonging, she said.

Today she would prefer not to be identified with one nationality or race on a census.
In our post-modern world, its unnecessary and antiquated to adhere to geographical boundaries and national identities, said Lavi, who is finishing the process of becoming a U.S. citizen.

David Hall
David Hall

The addition of new census categories will be good for the Jews beyond Israeli Americans, said demographer Steven M. Cohen.

In America, with its melting pot orientation, Jews assimilate more rapidly than do fellow tribe members in Canada, Great Britain or Australia, which have smaller Jewish populations but cultures more sympathetic to the perpetuation of ethnic group ties, Cohen said.

Being unwelcoming of the perpetuation of ethnic identity actually speeds up Jewish assimilation, he told Haaretz.
Jews have an interest in an America which is more vividly Hispanic, Hindu, Muslim and Middle Eastern.
This would be a small blow in favor of recognizing ethnic variation in America, which in the long run will survive as a distinct ethnic group.

Anything that fosters ethnic identity in America actually helps Jewish continuity, he said.
It makes the culture more empathetic to perpetuation of ethnic group ties.

In Jewish population studies most, though far from all, American Jews say they are Jewish by religion.
And no race/ethnicity category, by itself, can fully reflect the truth of what it means to be Jewish.

Jeremiah Gutierrez
Jeremiah Gutierrez

I highly doubt illegals will voluntarily mark themselves as non citizens.

Commiefornia's spic attorney general is completely taco toasted over it. He sure seems to think the possibility of illegal beaners being dumb enough to mark themselves down as illegal is real.

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Parker Martinez
Parker Martinez

Faced with a census form and the mental images of a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, a black Baptist, a Korean Buddhist or a Hispanic Catholic, white, black, Asian and Sephardi Jews might have some conflicted feelings, said Rabbi Avi Shafran, a spokesman for Agudath Israel of America, in an email.
While Judaism is a religion, the Jewish people is a people.
Peoplehood, at least Jewish peoplehood, transcends ethnicity and race.

The last time the federal government asked about religion was 1957, said Alan Cooperman, director of religion research at the Pew Research Center, in a population survey rather than decennial census.
Subsequently there was a debate and a number of religious groups and civil liberties groups asked that the census not ask about religion, as a violation of church and state or intrusion on privacy.

Concepts of race and ethnicity have a complicated, terrible history for Jews, and American Jewish organizations were among those opposed to census questions about religion.

Original Jewish concerns about the census related to Nuremberg laws, said Marc Stern, general counsel to the American Jewish Committee.
Germanys Nazi government used information from its own census to track down Jews.
Putting it on the census implies somehow that the government has some interest in knowing the religion of its citizens.
I dont know how it resonates in 2015, but the idea in the 1930s, 40s and 50s was fears that if the government knew what religion people were they might use that against them.

Xavier Torres
Xavier Torres

Yet there was a time when Jews referred to themselves as the Hebrew race, noted Kelner.

American Jews want to maintain a distinct identity and on the other hand want to be fully integrated into broader society and dont want the distinctiveness to come at a price, Kelner said.
Being marked on the census as Jewish gives you more information.
It affirms the difference.
Maybe it will have some type of legal consequences and benefits.
But on the other hand, it goes against a century-plus of how American Jews have managed that tension.

These creatures are the most underhanded and neurotic mongrel scum that has ever existed.

Parker Watson
Parker Watson

That's called social signaling user.

Connor Bell
Connor Bell

What could realistically be done if California is found guilty on a state level of lying on the census? Could their representatives be reduced due to uncertain numbers?

Lucas Robinson
Lucas Robinson

Shit, didn't mean to quote

Dominic Ward
Dominic Ward

That's called social signaling user.

No, it's called being worried. Socially signaling to his fellow taconiggers would serve absolutely no purpose. He thinks a significant number of spics will be stupid enough to list themselves as illegal on the census. And he's absolutely right about that.

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

what's stopping spics from lying to the census?
sorry if this question is retarded, I am completely oblivious on how this works

Nathaniel Miller
Nathaniel Miller

It almost cannot be enforced. Here's the risk/reward scenario for people with 2 brain cells:
1. Lie. MAYBE get caught/deported.
2. Tell the truth. Get deported.

Pretty easy choice, but they are hoping that asking the question will lead to self-deportation. Also, the census has been wrong for far longer than that. You really think blacks only make up 13-15% of the entire US population?

Hudson Morris
Hudson Morris

depends on how black is black, not even us have a agreed metric for that
I am talking about something that can be objectively measured, like DNA, maybe. Even if we agreed to use DNA, we didn't yet agree in the line that decides black/not-black

Logan Barnes
Logan Barnes

ARE YOU A CRIMINAL? (Y/N)

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Owen Jackson
Owen Jackson

does anyone have the video from some msm channel where they're all sitting around crying about how trump will win the 2020 election? and dems dont have a chance? i can't seem to find the video anywhere.

Kayden King
Kayden King

3. They won't answer
Obviously both lyring and telling the truth might get them deported, so many of them will fear participating in the consensus and most likely not answer or send it back at all. The true win here is that no matter what, the consensus of actual citizens will be much lower. Democrats will lose fuckload of electoral colleges due to lower true citizen amount as the user stated here . And not only that, if a district is only supposed to have 2 million voting able citizens and the district turns out to have 3 million votes due to illegal votes, it will become super evident that fuckery is going on.

Trump didn't even introduce voting IDs yet and already fucked over the 2020 votes for Democrats.

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Carson Wilson
Carson Wilson

This is actually a very clever play. Haven't seen anything this good since the election.

Luis Anderson
Luis Anderson

so
1. tell the truth get deported
2. don't answer get deported later since California will lose votes in congress and the electoral college
3. lie and ??? (law enforcement in cali is not going to catch the beaners)

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Adam Watson
Adam Watson

3. lie and ??? (law enforcement in cali is not going to catch the beaners)
It's a federal offense, not a state level one.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

3. lie and
your name gets put into several databases, these databases will be compared to citizen databases, if something is afood your citizenship will be checked and if you're not a citizen, you will be put up on top of the ICE list since it's a federal offense, and as trump said criminals are #1 on ICE list. Lying is obviously a much more risky choice for spics, do you think they will think they will risk their current personal well-being for electoral colleges or some vague future vote? They came here for personal gains in the first place.

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

$500 offence if caught

deportation if you tell the truth

Banter

David Foster
David Foster

So will ICE contact the NSA and have a mass deportation? Will they form NICE?

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Oliver Moore
Oliver Moore

$500 AND deportation if caught.

Hudson Murphy
Hudson Murphy

deported now if told truth (idiot spics will do this)
deported someday if caught lying (some spics will do this)
deported latest if you don't answer (most spics will do this)
The deportation will happen, the question is just sooner or later. Also no matter what the spic choses, democratic electoral colleges will still shrink in the outcome for 2020. You can't downplay this win no matter how much you try.

Next to "Build wall through M" this is one of the best moves of 2018 so far

Mason Ward
Mason Ward

if they avoid taking the survey, they will also receive less representation.

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

Niggers

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Liam Jenkins
Liam Jenkins

Doesn't the census bureau keep a record of every household they mail out to? If they don't receive a response, ICE can use the absence of data cross referenced with previous evidence to pay a visit to their house.

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Zachary Fisher
Zachary Fisher

This is nothing. As far as I know, there is no one that checks answers on the census. The census takers go out, do their thing, and the surveys go out. It all comes back in, gets scanned, and a giant database is made that anyone can access. There is no error correction. There is, however, an error estimate. But that's not going to help anyone that doesn't understand stats.

At most, we will probably see many non-citizens in cities. This doesn't mean they are illegal. They could be on a student visa, or h1-b.

The census isn't going to show what Holla Forums wants, in this case.

Jason Parker
Jason Parker

You really think blacks only make up 13-15% of the entire US population?
I think it might be exaggerating them, actually.

Jeremiah Thompson
Jeremiah Thompson

Nope. If you were correct, why is every blue state suing Trump over this right now?

Jackson Evans
Jackson Evans

The same reason people believe video games make mass murderers. It's a knee jerk reaction.

Fuck dude, when is Trump NOT being sued by the blue states?

Logan Smith
Logan Smith

i've never received anything from cencus bureau. im pretty sure i've never even filled one out… and im pretty sure im a legal immigrant.

Cameron Bell
Cameron Bell

maybe that's because they don't send these papers to 100% of people living in the US?
They probably send to 0.1% or less, that's the whole point of statistics, being able to assume the lots of information from almost no information

Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

If they don't receive a response, they send a census taker, possibly with a cop. And that is usually one the second or third visit. All they are there to do is make sure the person that resides there does the fucking census.

ICE does not get any information.

Chase Bailey
Chase Bailey

The 2010 United States Census (commonly referred to as the 2010 Census) is the twenty-third and most recent United States national census. National Census Day, the reference day used for the census, was April 1, 2010.[1] The census was taken via mail-in citizen self-reporting, with enumerators serving to spot-check randomly selected neighborhoods and communities. As part of a drive to increase the count's accuracy, 635,000 temporary enumerators were hired.[2][3]
They randomly pick, but maybe they can change the law to accept volunteers to pay a visit to the Mexican neighbourhoods.

Luis Taylor
Luis Taylor

This too. In fact non answering illegals might be an even bigger target than those who say they're citizens but lie. Anyways, this is a real good data farming operation on illegals while killing electoral colleges for Democrats.

Jonathan Sullivan
Jonathan Sullivan

Good. Now they need to make sure that non-citizens aren't counted when determining the amount of electoral college votes each state gets.

Luke Martinez
Luke Martinez

It could be punishable by being shot in the shins

Cooper Thomas
Cooper Thomas

Trump is the master troll. He knows that compliance with this will be spotty-to-nonexistent, and he's fine with that. He may be working two fronts here:
First, massive underreporting may allow him to bullshit us about how few illegals we have now that he's been in office for six years, or whatever. That's one possibility, though I can't imagine the major benefit it would bring anything but his ego.

Second, and more likely, he's whacking the nest with a stick to make angry lefty hornets come buzzing out in defense of illegals again. Not just in defense of illegals, but of secret illegals. Libshit assholes now have to argue in favor of not knowing something, as if they have a dirty secret they want to keep.

Looking forward to November.

Camden Long
Camden Long

Second, and more likely, he's whacking the nest with a stick to make angry lefty hornets come buzzing out in defense of illegals again.
Several states are already suing him over this, which makes the democrats look very scared.

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

inb4 some fucking kike judge blocks it from being on the census forever.

Thomas Foster
Thomas Foster

This. Leftypol subveraionistas like
Don't see the utility of this move because they are not allowed to understand just how fucking stupid beaners are. Some will check that box and think nothing of it until ICE knocks on their door.

Jaxson Brooks
Jaxson Brooks

It all comes back in, gets scanned, and a giant database is made that anyone can access. There is no error correction. There is, however, an error estimate.
In certain localities there is a margin of error of multiple-tens-of-thousands-of dollars in certain racial income data niggers 18-65; conveniently the workforce participation rate in this demographic is proportionate to how small the margin of error is and how close the racial median incomes are
why is every blue state suing Trump over this right now?
muh nu-hitler fear mongering give us your guns
you really must not be from around these parts, user

i've never received anything from cencus bureau. im pretty sure i've never even filled one out…
They do a total census on every year that ends in zero and they survey 1 in 6 (forget the reasoning but it has to do with degree of correlation, etc). The census bureau also does American Community Surveys (ACS) every 5 years and release 3 and 5 year forecasts to supplement the data gathered in the total survey. Think ACS estimates are gathered by the states on behalf of the census feds and there's not any real pattern of where and how many survey respondents there are for those.

vid related is mfw new ACS estimates come out

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David Martin
David Martin

military engineers start construction in California
loads of antifa kids show up to start fires
unlimited arrest works

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Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

Thus far the only construction has been in CA.

Elijah King
Elijah King

The place with the worst illegal infection. Texas construction will begin next
Hopefully

Brody Perez
Brody Perez

Niggers are the next problem even though they are the oldest the true demographic crisis comes from the spics. This only helps period. It'll spook half of them they are easily spooked and the other half with just lie. With the multiple laws they have broken, why not break another one right? So fucking with 50% of them and making half of them have a bad day- that's fantastic if you ask me.

Texas construction will begin next
LET THIS HAPPEN

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Caleb Perry
Caleb Perry

I may be lost here or it's because I haven't finished the article. How is this a win if they can just lie?

Nathaniel Bell
Nathaniel Bell

Lying on the census is a federal offence.

Brandon Young
Brandon Young

This has potential to be one of the most important things to make america white again. Even though there are X amount of browns here, a good percentage are still on visa's or apply for citizenship. Defining voting districts on merit of those that are native, completely redefines which areas get representatives.

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Henry Morgan
Henry Morgan

Spooking niggers
Ahjj just like the 60s all over again for us down here.

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Bentley Flores
Bentley Flores

Spooking niggers spooks

FTFY

Blake Lee
Blake Lee

So is border hopping. What's gonna stop them?

David Lee
David Lee

The government actually enforcing them.

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

Read the thread you dipshit.