LOCALIZATION CHANGE: Persona 5

nothing, that's why I never got excited for the english version in the first place. I'll just localize it if it really is that groundbreakingly good, and if not, then no loss.

Sounds like they WERE going to go full 8-4/Treehouse on it but then the game did so astoundingly good in Nip Island that they had to delay the game a few extra months to ensure quality localization

aka

OH NO! IT DID WAY TOO GOOD! NOW WE CAN'T MEME RAPE IT! OOPS!
QUICK! CHANGE IT UP! RETRANSLATE IT SO ITS NOT CANCER!

Did people really expect any different from modern Atlus?

This was the official reason they gave when they announced the delay you fucking idiot.

I suppose I'll just wait and see what happens. Only thing this will do is change if it's easier and cheaper for me to get a copy. If it isn't censored and they do a decent localization, I'll buy it. If not I'll wait a year or two then get it on playasia or something.

I got the impression it was the exact opposite of that.

It was an okay product, but it did well enough in Nipland that they are now delaying to memefy and "culturalize" it so that it can reach a broader audience in the West.

Atlus has been pretty good about translations thus far, though.

well, one thing's for sure, i'll wait to find out before i buy it. i was definitely going to buy it but if they treehouse it then fuck it, I just won't play it.

I seriously hope that's the case, and not "Oh shit it's doing really well in Japan, let's make it more palatable to western audiences so it does well here too."

I'll wait for other people here to buy it and tell me if it's fucked or not before putting my money down.

How's about reading the full post dingleberrybear?
The official reason was
The actual reason seems to be

Don't worry, Trips, either way it will be easy to get a copy cheap after just waiting a while.

WAIT NO
i didn't think of this
oh man

I'm glad you have a good head on your shoulders, mate.

Same

is this game really doing well in samurailand? seems like it fell of the radar immediately after release.

For a console only game in Japan it did very well

Wrong, the official reason was the localization 'improvements'. The dual audio was just a consolation to soften the blow of announcing the delay.
I don't care about the delay, dual audio is a godsend and it'll be easy to notice if the translation is fucked up when using JP audio during the game scenes.

Uh oh, there's that word I hate.

So they're gonna get rid of retarded shit like rising sun flags?

Unless they're going full retard like they did with Tokyo Mirage Sessions and are actually getting back the JP voice actors to re-record the censored dialogue.

(Tsubasa sure reminded us she was eighteen a lot.)

Oh no.

Is this some screwed up monkey paw shit or is the western release going to be okay?

Crap, I forgot about that. I'm pretty sure Nintendo had something to do with that, though… I don't think Atlus is going to go all the way into re-recording the JP audio… right?

And don't kid yourselves. They delayed it so they could memeshank it more and more…

I AM NOT SURE OF ANYTHING ANYMORE

I JUST DON'T WANT MY CAKES GETTING RUINED

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I'd say they tend not to do that, but then I remember the Golden.

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I was trying but I got tired and now I just review by and occasionally learn a new word or two from porn.

I know where that term is from.

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This better just be a miscommunication on the localization teams part.

If they meme it up I'm fucking done with videogames cold turkey.

The CEO used a term coined by this!
aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

If they fuck it up, I'm not buying it. I don't give a shit anymore. With the amount of games that I already have, there is no reason for me to give any money to the cucks.

I can buy it when I have the time to learn Japanese.

That's a man, isn't it?

There's no such thing. They're just retarded wannabes of otaku wannabes who are nothing but a pest to lewd Japanese culture.

Good.
Remember "Anime Feminist"?

Of course it is user. I'm surprised more women aren't annoyed that one of the "most powerful women in gaming" is a man.

Also, since when did anyone give a fuck about IDGA or whatever the fuck the organization is called

You've never seen an SJW with an anime avatar before? SJWeebs only like the most vanilla parts of weeb culture, and try to excise all of the "problematic" parts. They are cancer.

And that's why they don't exist. I will tell every last one of those little bitches to their faces that they're pathetic paradoxes and simply are not anything but the insult I just used a second ago.

I want that shit and that retard from that shit of a feminazi rag completely demolished.

It's a COMMIE is what it is!

>Kate Edwards is the executive director of the International Game Developers Association. She is also a geographer, writer and content culturalization strategist, most active in information-based cartography and video game content. Edwards spent over a decade working in various roles at Microsoft, creating the Geopolitical Strategy team and working to evaluate and manage geopolitical and cultural content in software products.

Her company is www .igda. org/

I don't want to go further. Please tell me this isn't whaat I think it is. Atlus isn't related surely. The SIG fb page isn't so bad it points out translation failures so HELP

They are all filthy casuals and posers.

It makes no sense for someone to like something a lot and somehow want it to be completely altered every single damn time.

I think the best solution is to just learn Japanese and cut off the western cucks and cunts entirely.

It's not going to get any better. They are going to fuck these hobbies to death.

Persona is an easy target as well, since it's a more casual version of SMT in the first place.

Imagine if we could convince the Japanese to stop wasting their time with the crybaby west altogether.

They're just boring, normal people who want to pretend like "geek hobbies" so they can seem "different" to their cuck hipster friends. Thing is they don't actually like any of these things and are merely pretending, like you said, posers.

The thing these stupid fucker don't realize is if they ever fuck these "different hobbies" into a bland normalized paste they can't it for hipster cred anymore. So they hop on the next fad to ruin.

SJWs = sociopaths

meaningness.com/metablog/geeks-mops-sociopaths

Good luck with that. The Japanese like money just like everyone else.

I have no doubt the retards actually believe the pathetic shit they spew.

There has to be a way to get them release everything with nothing more than a text translation.

What fucking money?

Buying games directly from them would help with that.

trans.uma.es/pdf/Trans_15/19-28.pdf

Here's where the paper is based on. Trust me, I read this paper time and time again and the Atlus USA CEO saying that makes me really think that he's close with "Kate" Edwards. There's no such thing as co-incidences, people.

If PlayAsia could become the perfect conduit for direct to doorstep importation of Japanese games, that would definitely be achievable.

Hopefully PQube realizes there's a platinum opportunity to jump on being a publisher that hasn't done shit to triggering fictional women.

On one had, culturalization is shit, and since they actually used that word it confirms the localization will be appalling, and i fully expect #FE levels of "localization"
On the other hand

How autistic are you?

If they stopped sucking the console cock it would be a lot easier to make fan translations. I'm sure if they saw everyone buying from Japan and using fan translation over whatever socjus invested shit they're trying to shove down our throats it would send a powerful message.

Just learn Japanese and free yourself from these shitty localizers/culturalizers.

If it were that easy, I would have learned by now and shared a guide for idiots tailor made to be appealing to goobers and any other anti-feminazis.

Well I doubt things are going to get any better in the localization industry, so the sooner you start learning the better.

I keep recalling the rabbithole plummet we fell through after stmubling upon DiGRA and then Common Core and finally the pan-american conspiracy helmed by Gates Foundation to push actual communism in public schools. Also the Anita college school lesson put forth by that Jewish organization.

PQube is pretty legit. Root Letter was great

Not after that shit they pulled with Valkyrie Drive.

Why in the fuck can't "localised" games get dual tracks like we already get other media? They already do things like let us use Japanese audio from options and selections. Might as well have a localised default track and an unlocalised original track to choose from.

GODDAMIT ATLUS DON'T SCREW WITH MY CAKE!

There was a time that "learn Japanese" was my first thought, too, but these days, even niche as fuck games like the new Sword Art Online game are getting self-censored in Japan. Learning Japanese might solve the issue of shitty translations, but it no longer spares you from censorship.

Wait what did they do?

Holy shit what are the odds?

I agree with you but
Come on, user.

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he's using TOR, newfriend.
This is definitive evidence we have new spilling over from duckchan.

My English has been as it is now since I was a kid. I had no help from useless teachers and I didn't use any secret special method. I had a dictionary and the translator on AltaVista. You have way more tools available than I had.

Learning another language is surprisingly easy when you actually use it on a regular basis, and Japanese is definitely one of the more usable languages out there.

I will learn Japanese after I'm done with trade school. Trying to master too many things at once is generally a bad idea, and making my life not suck as much as it does now is more important.

Definitely doing it, though.

FFXV has German, Nip, English and some other languages all available from the start, each with unique facial and gesturing animations per dub, and different subtitles (in their respective languages) or just play with Eng subs with another language dub.

It's great.
too bad about the game.

Back OT: Are we in for good news or bad? What's the verdict anons?

When the localization was announced, the first thing that happened is that someone on twitter asked them if they were going to be censoring the game. They claimed at the time that there would be zero censorship in any form. Well, the game gets released, and the girls' ages were removed for censorship purposes. Hilariously, this let SJWs in the game media claim that all the girls in VD were 14 or younger when they're all high schoolers except for one 14 year old.

Your average normalfag gamer won't even know what SAO is, and the typical anime fan is unlikely to buy the game. Otherwise, Attack on Titan would have been the best selling game on Play Asia instead of DOAX3.

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Oh boy. hahaaha this really was a cluster

touche
But i meant SAO as "niche for Japan" is not true.

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I don't want to, shill.

SJWeebs are very real. They're basically what you get when a casual toonamitard that hates fanserivice and moe suddenly uses feminism as an excuse to remove what they don't like from anime and Japanese games. They have 0 influence on Japan, but they have completely decimated the fansub community and they're the retards that buy and defend localized games with meme scripts and censorship.

Another one bites the dust.

Moeshit sucks. Don't mind fanservice, but fuck moeshit. Cancer that ruined anime right there.

Anyone that thinks that doesn't know shit about old anime and has no idea how to find currently airing shows they would like. Either way you won't be missed.
Cuckchan /a/ is calling you.

One day, you smug whore.

Rulecucked /a/utist detected

But moeshit has always been around in anime. Since at least the 1960s like Silly the Witch / Mahōtsukai Sarī. Interestingly enough there was less lewd censorship back then than now the opposite of America back in the day but it seems like we're going full circle again with SJWs who are pruder than puritan fundies when it comes to censorship while paradoxically promoting promiscuity and unfaithfulness. It's like the left was born unfathomably retarded.

He doesn't know and doesn't care.
He's just parroting cuckchan memes.

Don't forget that Edwards is also high up in the IGDA, AKA, the gaming industry's biggest corrupt "union." You know, the type that's just there to fuck things up and then demand money for it.

They were forced to remove ages because of retarded moralfaggot laws about characters under 18.

Et tu Atlus.

笑

They weren't forced to do shit.

They absolutely exist, see Xythar for a perfect example. Though I don't know if he unprivated his twitter account yet, he was really fucking triggered on election day last I checked.

It wasn't the age removal, that bothered most of us. It was them not being upfront with it and their dismissive attitude when called out on it.

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I've seen Mangagamer employees retweet that idiot. Makes me a little worried about the fate of Rance in their hands.

I mean culturalization wasn't a problem with PHOENIX WRIGHT, right?

At least you can listen to the nip VA right..?

Once again, Holla Forums ruins it for the rest of us.

I dunno, but she reminds me of that tranny from gamespot.

Go to bed, Phil, we can smell your salt and emotions.

Reminder that AtlusUSA is perfect.

It was always going to be trash, don't kid yourselves.

Funny because P3 and P4 were well respected and received cult hits in the West.

God I'm getting PTSD flashbacks from Working Design.

No just America- there's a really weird attitude about sex, porn and nudity in the US. And this transcends the usual political barriers. There are still political discussions about sex education, birth control and abortion while most other advanced countries have already moved on from that.

Just go look at Holla Forums, it's like an endless parade of the mentally challenged.

Return to tumblr.

America has no such laws. Loli porn is in a gray area in some states (nobody gets arrested for it, but I wouldn't want to try to sell it openly) but VD isn't porn.

Well I certainly can't speak for Europe but I do prefer my own country.

There is no videogame censorship, 18 rated games are sold openly, no SJWs and very few limits on artistic license.

here's the webm

Is it good?

are you kidding me? seriously the worst SJWs are weebs

Yup.

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3 and 4 were good. Suck my cock misanthrope.

Play a real SMT game you pathetic waifufags

The Working Designs philosophy of localization needs to fucking die. The only positive thing I have to say about HR's localization is that the budget was so small that they couldn't afford English language voice acting to assault my ears on top of my eyes.

Fucking hell. Meant to quote .

The real reason people should be outraged is VD is a shitty senran clone that crashes every 5 seconds and pretends to be a "deep" button masher because you have to hold a button press every now and then.

I said they're by default nothing but a pathetic pest to their sexy and lewd culture.

And I said they do not get officially recognized as shit other than a self-contradicting little bitch.

Fuck, I hope this ends well; was thinking of jumping over from Dragon Quest because of SEs refusal to bring it over any of the games without Britshit "culturalization". Need to read up on emulators at this rate.

Where do you live so I can move there?

Assuming it was delayed to actually "improve" the english script, I don't think we have to worry about them making a Fates kind of job. That game was so awful in the english version because they picked the absolute bottom of the barrel to edit it, people that don't even speak japanese who were given the go-ahead to write whatever the fuck they wanted. Adding memes and rewriting characters doesn't please anyone, it only happened because NoA are cheap fucks that wanted to save as much money as possible. See : the horrendous voice actors and the fact that they cut 2/3 lines in the first place under the excuse of "lol petting minigame is bad"

If Atlus are actually taking this much time and ressources to polish P5, I am confident the translation is going to be at least decent.

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Its the new standart isnt it?

Learning nipponese seems the only exit to escape the censors

BUT if atlus and the others are allowing this shit, they dont deserve the money from this side

Me too

There is no escape. They make them with westerners in mind. Like street fighter or final fantasy. I only play mobile now and don't pay shit.

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Do the buffs in p5 work like p3 and 4 or smt?

these people are called "niwaka"
make the term catch

It's pretty good but GORO IS THE TRAITOR

go back to 4cuck please

What's the difference?

P3 and 4 had buffs work on timers, and would expire after 3 turns. Smt has stackable buffs that dont expire, but they have to be stacked to be useful.

It works like P3/4 then.

Damn.

made it twelve seconds in.
fuck this gay earth

It could be worse.

5 seconds is all I could take.

What's wrong with it?

buy it in japanese and play it if you actually care that much, i did.

Most people who bitch about this stuff don't care enough to learn Japanese.

My personal theory about Fates is that they intentionally memified it not from getting bottom barrel treehouse rejects to do it, but because they were trying to go specifically for tumblr type weebs. You're just not the target audience.

Case in point, take a look at the following- this bullshit pickle garbage. I can't find specific tweets, but I do distinctly remember many people squeeing at the changes made to this character. "The dialogue in the original was so boring, he's funny now!"

Also kids. It's not from a lack of efford, just a clear example of culturalization at work

How well did Fates do again?

It sold 1.84 million worldwide and appears to have sold a ton of DLC hitting nintendos 5th top DLC sales as of March 2016.
web.archive.org/web/20160428122343/http://www.please use archive.is/2016/04/28/nintendo-3ds-wii-u-download-sales-better-ever/

Before it was released in the west it had just under 600k sales, so by all accounts it sold well.

Well just fuck my archive link up fam.

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I thought it was done to drain more money from Nintendo into Treehouses pockets.

bullshit, last I heard it only sold 300,000 with a strong start then tanked.

I would think it would be a little bit of both. But with persona, i would assume they would know their audience is waifu fags so they know not to fuck it up for them.

See for yourself. pdf file has the details of nintendos earnings and sales as of march 2016.

not necessarily. The tumblrfags I know I'm using them as a boogeyman, but idk love anime too. Atlus is usually pretty good with this, but as other anons have said, we can't discount the possibility of them memifying it to the max

Thinking about it now, i do renember the kanji is gay bullshit. Now im worried. Waifufags, please save me.

Now that's just god damn depressing.

Yes it was, it only worked in the first game because the setting was "the city". All the later games lose most of their original humor and the themes are outright bizarre just cause they will not for the lives of theirs retcon JapFransisco because apparently there's people who enjoy that sort of thing.

Normalfags just don't care about video games, they want their memes and their casual modes inserted into every franchise, as long as they can feel good and get their momentary endorphin rush from doing what a trained monkey could accomplish.
They don't care if it degrades the quality of the game for previous established fans of the series who enjoyed the thrill of the challenge, the serious nature of the game and working hard to succeed.
I mistakenly bought awakening thinking it wouldn't be as bad as everyone made it out to be, but there's zero challenge to be had, you can just buy DLC and insta-level everyone and make the campaign a cakewalk. It's a joke and a shell of it's former glory.
I stopped playing after sacred stones, when did this shit even start to take hold? Path of Radiance? I never liked the look of that one and it's why I left the series alone.

My interest in P5 died when I emulated P3 and was bored as fuck by the game. Everyone was ranting and raving about how great the series was, and I was bored out of my mind. P5 didn't look too different and the "Fight the evil adults!" like it's an anime kids next door killed my interest. OST is ok though.

Why are normalfags so shit in the first place? Why can't they take their time to improve their taste and skills in anything?

I think you have to keep in mind that most normalfags don't look at video games in the same way most here would. Video games are just another form of entertainment, like movies, TV, or books, that you relax with after the 9 to 5 grind. They won't pick up games that require as much investment as learning an actual skill, because it's pointless to them. First due to the fact that they could be spending their time doing something beneficial, and two they only want to enjoy a game and not deal with a stressful process. It's why linear cinematic experiences and skinnerbox multiplayer games are so beloved by them.

Her fucking voice lad.

Sounds fine to me.

And there's nothing wrong with that

There kinda is though.

We need to wipeout the SJWs with a biological contaminant. There should be a shared gene between SJWs that we can isolate and use to eliminate them all on a massive scale.

Im still holding out hope.

What, exactly?

That the translation is uncucked.

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oh god
OH GOD

Eh, could be better, could be worse. She mentions "buffs" which gives me hope that she'll keep the RPG lingo, like calling the protag her Key Item.

ITT: user discovers the beauty of opinions

Not the worst thing imaginable. It kinda makes sense with her personality.

try being "friends" with one
but no seriously don't ever
it drains your soul, kills your happiness and makes you want to commit genocide and suicide

FUCK THIS SHIT
I'm importing, I was absolutely fucking right to be cautious.

oh come on! OH COME ON!!

I figured that was the case with VD

reminder persona 5 is about to be butchered and you need to cancel your preorders

I was wrong to look forward to things.
Let the social justice mobilepocalyse wipe the industry clean, praise almighty backlog.

Tsuchiya sure seems to like P5.

The saddest part is that the development team will never protest against whatever butchery happens overseas.
Even the original Persona's dev team didn't care, and they certainly had 100x more respect for gaming than Hackshino does.

Way better.
Good lighting and shadows too, especially with the transparency of the fabric.

No there isn't. Normalfags just want to be entertained, they'll watch/play anything.

Sadly I'm not a normalfag. Having standards is a bitch.

fpbp
came to reccomend this
don't play on nightmare though

Final fantasy X
Rpg
24
Games are fine working at square enix jp right now people don't understand all the time and money into a title.
Emo chicks

literally why haven't they ported/coded/whatever this to PS4 yet

it's like they don't want more money

So it's nintendo's fault entirely.

Still haven't forgiven them for no femshep/tali option.

Fuckers even did the voice lines for it.

Better than the first 5 minutes of the game is literally everything.
Also it was only really that was like 3-4 patches ago

tails

It hurts

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it fucking hurts always

fucking this. I've spent enough time and prob attained enough autism to know when shitty normalfags corrupt a hobby they should have absolutely no fucking business with to being with. At least starting from FF Type-0 HD and ==ITS== god awful localization (US ver of Ace Combat 3 if you want an even earlier example,) I pray(ed) that hopefully it would make people more aware, not just fucking complacent

People like to pretend Atlus is best grill and has never censored anything. This same shit happens with any company pretending to release games that haven't been butchered in localization to get the preorder weeb bux (Other examples include Senran, VD, Criminal Girls, etc). It happens every time a game is "localized" and every time it happens there is some bullshit excuse that gets thrown around to drown out the people asking why they lied about shit (but the AGES would have made the game M rated!, But they LOOK too young, etc) . Almost like shills but worse because rather than being paid to attempt legitimize a position/product they buy a product then try to legitimize their purchases for free.

So, is the localization confirmed for shit? Or are people still just making their own bullshit theories out of snippets from interviews?

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That shouldn't be used as an example; it's still tied to NISA.

Still a horribly censored release because they wanted to "localize" the title and make it "acceptable" to western sensibilities. Just because the company has a history of shitty censor-localizations doesn't mean it isn't still valid as an example. Consider the faggots that defended both of the titles being censored to shit using such retarded excuses as

don't forget the current personal favorite excuse

Sound familiar? That's because its the same excuses used with EVERY SHIT LOCALIZATION EVER.

Chill man. I think he just misread your linked post, and thought you were saying Criminal Girls was an otherwise "fine" localization.

I guess that could be the case but if it was it would make sense to elaborate what I meant which the follow up post does.

Wanna explain why we have nothing to worry about or should we just believe that everything will be okay? This is also the same company that helped make #FE

You've piqued my curiosity.

Is this a weapon in the meme war?

#FE was nintendo's doing

>finding teenagers hot makes normalfags accuse you of pedophilia

In which case I proceed to snap and verbally fucking curbstomp them.

Then why is it developed by Atlus and why does Atlus apparently have no control over what happens in their own game?

I'm fucking pissed right now.

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They both worked together to make that abortion. As censor happy as Nintendo is, why the fuck did Atlus not tell them no?

I'm not saying we have nothing to worry about, i'm saying that it's retarded to act like it's confirmed that it will be a FE# tier localization when we don't have any actual proof of it or any proof against it for that matter.

Any time you see the word culturalization assume everything's going to be fucked because you'll more than likely be proven right. Particularly when they're talking about widening the appeal in the process, every fucking time they talk about widening the appeal of Japanese games they're doing so by butchering the original content.

The fact that #FE did get it along with unecesary censorship across multiple games in fear of SJWs is a good bit of proof for a fucked translation. Why wouldn't we be worried and what is the proof or past pattern they won't?

Wait, so isn't this a good thing?
They wanted to make a shitty localization but they were like "oh shit, this is selling a lot" and now they're gonna try to do a decent localization.
Why is everyone shouting at each other?
Isn't this a good turn of events?

see

You could also read it as the exact opposite. Considering historic trend, this is also the far more likely answer.

"Appealing to a wider audience" never means "do our best and be as authentic as possible."

Because saying no is burii dishonooraburu

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Nobody's getting in your way of learning Japanese.

There is still a chance it won't get fucked, it's low but it's there.

You can't just take 1 instance of Atlus fucking up and call it a pattern or proof that all of their subsequent localizations will be terrible. It's entirely possible that Nintendo funded most of FE# and that's the reason it ended up being such a huge piece of shit.
Besides, FE# flopped hard in both Japan and the west, it's unlikely that Atlus will repeat their mistakes. They might just do it though, we all know how retarded Atlus can be.
I honestly just want to believe, there's no fucking way i'll pre-order but i'll keep an open mind until the game is released or the quality of the localization is actually confirmed to be utter shit.

I meant it as in NISA's just too damn synonymous with censorship; I just think it would be better to use someone else that people were thinking of in a good light instead of the one company where if you believed them, you deserved the bricking.

Nintendo probably paid for the whole thing.

Nobody knows all we know is the last delay was because the game sold really well in Japan so Atlus US sees it as an opportunity to sell the game to a lot more people than normal. So they are reworking the localization for that reason, which sounds completely fucking horrifying. However it could just be them doing better work on the voice acting or removing some of the stuff that is a too weeby like honorifics. Or they could be hamburgering up the entire fucking thing and adding all the maymays.

Yeah but their PR guy or someone involved in localization also through Nintendo under the bus with that. He tweeted out that Nintendo demanded all the changes and they had no say in it. He even deleted the tweet afterwards.

Yeah but Sega is also the parent company here and they're finally strarting to make a real push for Yakuza to catch on in the west, by putting out Yakuza 0, 6, and Kiwami. This push also came with them for the first time saying that a Yakuza game will come out in the west with no censorship. So there may still be hope. I still wouldn't pre-order the thing just hold off wait for it to come out and see what happens.

Please