Death Stranding Conjecture

Hey Holla Forums I know this is old as fuck but can anyone identify what the second equation on Reedus' necklace is? I recognize the first as the equation to find the Swarszchild Radius of a black hole but I'm fucking stumped about the other.

Feel free to post any and all speculation about MGS VI:Celebrity Edition

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It measures the neural frequencies in which kojima dedicates his brain thinking about reedus' body.

What were all the theories about the new trailer?

the question is no longer what is it? it is more like "METAL GEAR" and "SLIENT HILL"

Where's the video game?

You mean gameplay wise?
I certainly would have preferred to see some of that in the trailer.

no you fucking nigger
the codirector of slient hill was in the trailer and the obvious metal gear AESTHETICS is there too

This is Holla Forums. Nobody gives a shit. Cyan doesn't want video games.

Why were you expecting anything else?
I thought that was obvious from the start.

Some user said it is some kind of purgatory, with the character's babies being their lives.

I assume the soldiers connected to Mads are other players who invade your world. Maybe you need to kill other players to bring yourself closer to escaping the loop?

It looked more like the player will have a team of skeletons he can control. At least that's the impression the trailer gave me.

The baby in a jar seems like some kind of protection against whatever is in the water, either as repellant or "bait" for those tentacles.

Just saw the first bit of the new trailer again. The tank is covered in death and I think even a skeletal arm. Life is precious and must be defended and kept safe. The soldiers are powered by the life force of others, as all other fuel resources are depleted. Maybe this is Kojima's message; we keep raping the world of everything it has, we'll have to turn on each other.

While I've never played Metal Gear and have no idea how Kojima's writing is, I believe that the baby in the pod is actually a reference to preserving the environment, like a seed.

Who was the white haired guy in the 2nd trailer, in the sewer? By doing the shushing with his finger, I'd say that's talking about the destruction of the world for military gain, and we're meant to remain silent about it.

Sometimes he strikes gold and makes something genuinely great that shows how games can accomplish things on other artistic mediums can.

Most of the time however he just shits out overacted, overwritten, overgesticulated gibberish.

Wikipedia lists the two equations as:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation

But what the fuck is it going to play like

Apparently,it's a quasi-action game. He said it's called that because like the first Metal Gear, the stealth genre didn't exist when it was released.

It's gonna be a walking simulator.

I hate how some people think that good writing involves how many "ruses" or hidden shit you can cram into your narrative.

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I wonder if they have even an alpha of how it plays or if these trailers have been shat out with the game not even in pre production.
I still have no idea why anyone falls head over heels over these trailers.

He hasn't even chosen the engine yet, and most of the plot hasn't been finalized either.

MGSV played really well, so there's hope he can do it right.

I don't know why but I have a very bad feeling about Death Stranding. Like it's going to be a new MN9 or something. Except because it's Kojima after he's been made a martyr if it happens to turn out bad I fear that people will either force themselves to call it good or they'll blame it on something else.

Honestly it'd be the best walking simulator made, which isn't saying much. But it'd at least be an interesting ride. But I doubt Kojima would want to do a walking simulator, if anything he wants to just do something different than Metal Gear.


It's good to be skeptical of this, because it is true. We have yet to see ANY gameplay, just weird story trailers.

The only time I'm even remotely acceptive to a walking sim if it's only a small part of the game, to set the mood, similar to how A Story About My Uncle, Furi or Valley did it. Three minutes is pushing it.
I really hope it's not a walking simulator and if it is everyone condemns the unholy fuck out of it.

Oh, figured out what he meant by ropes connecting things and death being redefined.
Other anons would of gotten this, but deaths will leave a body there permanently, or at least a long while, and you use those magical cords to reanimate the dead and command them.

This fits neatly with the title, as you are forced to die en masse in order to continue.
They said multiplayer was a heavy focus, so perhaps you can also see bodies of other players, which may be beneficial if you can reanimate them when they're using different gear to you.

Is that webm of a hacked baby monitor?
That's terrifying and hilarious.

That's fucking worse, because every time you play the game you gotta go through a fucking walking sim that you can't skip. I think if the game is strictly a walking sim and is advertised as such from the start and can tell an interesting story, I'm fine with it.


yeah, one of those webcams you use an app to watch, I think.

You're thinking of Furi. In Valley and ASAMU it's more of the first few minutes of the game then you get playing.
And if I recall correctly you can skip it after first playthrough in Furi.

Looks like it's using a modified version of Infamous Second Son's engine.

archive.is/00tZz

Metal Gear Solid came out in the same year as Thief, user-kun.

The first Metal Gear. Operation Intrude N313

I just don't get why someone would want to do such things.


It's going full throttle.

Just repeating what Hideo said.

Absolute bullshit. At least 2 games already existed, and they were better stealth games than MG as well.

Not video games.

Where am I? This weird dream again, déjà vu!

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Quite a stretch

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It's a Kojima game, everything is David Bowie.

I missed te previous threads about the last trailer but I'd really love to talk about it, there is so much going on this trailer, I really want to get in an other Kojimbo's ruse cruise

For instance I just noticed that Del Toro's character had a lobotomy and a badge with a map of the USA with "BRIDGES" written on it
Why are there guts and bones on the tank? Why the rainbow? Why the WW2 planes fighters? What are the black tentacles?
Did any Kojima specialist answer these?

Also if Del Toro is in it it means monsters. I'd love to see what he's cooking.

I think Mads is the literal grim reaper. Or maybe THE HORSEMAN OF WARa

Same people working on it, what the fuck do you expect.

I'm gonna bank on some level of lovecraft in this game. It looked like the tanks had squid parts falling off them. The black ooze could be ink

The only thing that kinda works is the skeleton astronaut, because their company mascot is a skeleton astronaut. Maybe he has some relevance to the game.
But I guarantee you there's going to be a Bowie inspiration somewhere. It's Kojima.

Shit, did this already happen? What they modified might give insight into the gameplay.

So, someone has blonde hair, and there's a skeleton. Yeah, I think you're reaching a bit.

Countribuutan.

archive.is/w6Idc#selection-467.0-473.54
Found it. Looks like it's in about four and a half hours.

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That's all, but I also found this gif on my hard drive.

How long until Kojimbo himself gets revealed as an ingame character?

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First pic is an actual bowie pose.

why do you keep posting the dead old bat?

No one cares about a dead faggot beyond celebrating that he’s dead.

is the trailer music also bowie remix?

We were wondering if Junji Ito has a hand in making this game, especially as the tank reminds some of us of Gyo.

cuckjima does

There's some shit going on between both trailers twitter.com/memeings/status/804937495037276160

I don't know, those tanks look like they have a sort of a large infestation of nematodes. They're not really amalgams of weird machinery and marine life (no, nematodes aren't exclusively marine).

I'm pretty sure that was an M36 tank destroyer with some worms and also a few bones mounted on the side. So yes, it's not some weird tank monster. The skellies are also armed with Garands if I'm not mistaken. But Mads has modern equipment.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

We are back in the ruise cruise, prepare for disapointment when the stupidest guess turns out to be the correct one

Fuck yeah I recall he had to work with them on Silent Hill

I don't care if the game is bad I'm just gonna fap on the visuals if this man is involved.

The babby is "le final fantasy life force" tier representation of Gaia, Reedus is a FORCE OF NATUREE and Toro is gay-nazi-scientist who has to sacrifice the babby to his…

…eh, pick one (daughter, führer, lover, nation or stop skeletons from WWII invading his dick).

Post the whole thing after the shark appears, please, I never got to finish it.

Just noticed something on the planes, only the bombs are leaving black trail. They are bombing the place with the black substance.

Maybe a reference to the black rain that fell after the nukes were dropped?

Just story time it faggotron

Nigger it's 400 pages long

The black ink is like Venom from spiderman 3 and aliums are taking over the world.

Done.

DID YOU RIKE IT?

I want the kojimadrones to leave

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and 400/5 = 80 posts if you don't flub it.
I've done longer story times with less posting capacity, don't be a faggot.

I don't even have the images. I bought the hardback like a good goy.

looking forward to it nonetheless

The engine name was actually shown in the latest trailer, it's just that they didn't draw any attention to it yet.

Either that or an M10.

Norman Reedus is ugly and I don't want to play as him. ;_;

something to do with the wave equation?

It's an M10

Oh, I get it, you want to play as a brown haired, brown eyed, white guy with a square haircut, right? I do too.

There, there, let this small story satisfy you.

Well, the hull is the same anyway.
An other thing: we might have other ww2 forces in the game, including skeleton nazis.

Wait fuck was there another trailer?
I missed it

death stranding is going to be a game involving time travel/paradox universes that ties in with metal gear survive's time travel/wormhole features and certain events of the older older metal gear solid game's canon

the konami and kojima drama was all a ruse that possibly ties in with kojima's red and blue "project ogre"

Using american equipment? Unless the entire force actually is skelenazis bent on purifying the world from dirty meats like us. The oil is to kill and skeletize every other lifeform. Mads Mikkelsen is in the process of skeletizing himself, thats why he still has his meat.

oil probably represents some kind of corruption or taint.

This is retarded.

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You didn't read my post so good. I say if there are skelly burgers, then there might be skelly nazis too. And you gave me a good excuse to post pics from my skelly folder

*before MGS3

Kojima speaks
www.twitch.tv/playstation

new music

Hey, this trailer has Low Roar playing.
Great song, Easy Way Out.

You can embed Twitch.

I would like another game with the gameplay of MGS5, but centred around something that wasnt fucking terrible and repetative

NEW DEATH STRANDING TRAILER LIVE RIGHT NOW PSX KOJIPRO PANEL

what was that song? I just got here

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It's not a new trailer. It was the same one from the Game Awards.

Shit, I didn't see your comment.

Anyway? They aren't going to show any gameplay, are they? We'll just have this cringy interview with the translator stumbling on his words, and Kojima+Hollywood circlejerking. I think I'll pass.

mads antagonist reedus protagonist.

Full TD model

What game is this?

You know, its funny how kojima is remaking this engine into his prior fox egine in mgsV.

I wasnt really interested in this game until that second trailer. I REALLY like the art design of the urban city covered in literal decay.

what does that even mean

XOF engine?

yea, my bad

If it can run at 60fps with this new engine like the Fox Engine then I'll be mildly interested.

fucking hell

seeing as kojibro is cucking the other devs on develpoment, he will probably work thier enginears to make the engine run like that. Assuming he cares as much about this as he did XOF

holy fuck, I hope that imagery isn't just for the teaser and the game really is that crazy. You can really see the del Toro and Junji Ito influence.

here's to hoping it doesn't get pozzed as fuck by del Toro's current bout with feminism and Sony.

also is it just me or is there something Biblical feeling about this game?

also maybe a slight anti-abortion message to piss off liberals.

I do wonder how they'll manage without Julien Merceron since now he's working at Bandai Namco. Merceron was also responsible for Luminous Studio's development as well. Perhaps they still have access to notes and are modifying the Unreal Engine to mimic the Fox Engine?

i will never understand what people see in him

honestly he's my least favorite person on the team.

The guy who did the brunt of the work on MGS2 was the person I liked, to bad he disappeared.

Still, the fact Kojima brought del Toro and Ito together to make a vidya is pretty nice.

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He deserved it.

There's a lot of emotional baggage in this room. Someone enhance the reflection on the grey ball.

I'd really love to enter that room and take a closer look at that tank. I hope they animated in while it was on display.

This looks like an Augmented Reality thing. Can anyone confirm?

They were just showing the in engine lighting on some assets, and they moddled the room after thier studios meeting room. Just a basic demo of where there engine tech is at.

What the fuck is this?

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Damn. I think it would be really cool if they started doing augmented reality exhibits of studio assets especially with the tech getting better.


a meat tank

Are the skeleton soldiers what happens when folks in this world die too much? Is everyone warring over a life/death resource because everyone is undead?

So I guess this is going to be more of a military psychological horror than anything else.

good, I loved Spec Ops: the Line.

Never mind, this answers my question.

archive.is/WKrD3

Basically Horizon Zero Dawn or whatever's engine

I think it'll be a pretty mediocre movie. and an even worse """""""game""""""

I am still interested in what he will figure out fro gameplay. I don't have any hope for it but I am still curious as a person who never played MGS and therefore still have neutral feeling about Kojima.

Should I just watch MGS through some lets play? I seriously could use some static noise to play Path Of Always Online.

Hmm, I would personally recommend playing them, but watching them like the kids is perfectly valid in this day and age. You can speed up the codec conversations too, although you'll have to search for playthroughs with optional content if you want to watch that. It's not so "cinematic" that you're walking down hallways the whole time.

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What in the hell is Kojima’s obsession with this fucking faggot?

So I will question one thing. Is it linear?

Why are you so fucking angry

Who is she?

Paramedic

There’s a fair bit of backtracking, but that was typical of games of that era.

The Original Weeaboo.

And which game?

What I wanted to know is if I will miss parts of the story on one playthrough. If I can get entire story by just one playthrough, and gameplay is not really something I desire, I will just watch it.

I don't even feel ashamed for doing this after all I just want to play games I like more, and it so happens you can split your attention while playing games I like.

truth

I think that is the MGS3 model you see in the ending.

So that's why I had no idea. Thanks. That outfit is kind of fucking cute actually.

Here's my theory. The game revolves around humanity discovering that black tar, let's call it LifeGoo. It sparks a new industrial revolution, but instead of everything being based on metal, everything is based on metal AND living organisms. That's why you have a tank with intestines growing out of it and bones molded into the armor, and why you have planes with umbilical cords. Maybe resources are scarce in the future?

Del Toro has a badge with the name Bridges and a map of the US without Washington DC and instead of United States it's called United Cities of America, so we must assume he is a member of the goverment of the new US, and that the US was… attacked?

Norman Reedus has a surgical scar instead of a belly button, so we can assume he was made, not born. Also, the baby in the first trailer has a cord filled with LifeGoo that connects with Reedus. Maybe he is some kind of human LifeGoo farm?

The soldiers that are controlled by the Bowie looking soldier are using out of date equipment, are pretty much just bones, and have a backpack that reads US, not UC. So we can assume they are bodies of fallen soldiers brought back to life with LifeGoo.

The problem is that both the tanks and the planes are from the same era the soldiers are, an it's ww2. So their equipment isn't merely out of date, it's pretty much ancient. And it's not like you can find dead US soldiers in full equipment. No, there is more to this, a lot more. But you might be right about the goo.

I don't now much about military hardware, so I didn't make an assumption about it. Maybe the lifegoo took control of something that was immediately available, and everything it could find was WWII equipment?

And about the soldiers… I frankly don't know haha

DUDE, MAYBE THE LIFEGOO BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE SOLDIERS AND MACHINERY FROM WWII SO IT CAN WIPEOUT THE US AND CREATE A NEW REICH!

NAZIGOO!!!!!
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There are no stockpiles of ww2 equipment any more, the US got rid of them in the 50s and 60s. You might find small arms, even a few tanks in museums, but not planes, nor full uniforms kitted out with everything.

Judging from the two trailers, and from Hack Fraud saying its about environmentalism, its probably a game about the metaphysical significance of oil taking a literal form. The skeleton soldiers are resurrected from WWII, one of the first wars with large motivations on oil (especially in the Pacific Front) but are supported by a more modern soldier (and living) through umbilical cords, which recede back into his gear (likely his stomach) Reedus has a scar in his stomach, and will likely share the power with that soldier of being able to control things with them.

Some other details I noticed

We see Reedus's hands are covered in oil, then when it cuts to the first person shot we see smaller, baby sized hands making oil prints in the sand. Likely supposed to be symbolic of how mankind influences the environment with his every action

Reedus is covered in grime, yet has uncovered handprints all over his body

When the doll touches Del Toro, a few cords grab it around the leg and slowly pull it into the sewer

The army and soldiers are clearly on a manhunt for Del Toro, who is fleeing with a fetus in a device. Perhaps the reason resurrected soldiers are used are because there is a shortage of actual humans. Perhaps overexposure to the oil and its powers killed all the women/made them sterile and only remaining humans are rare but now exert great power of things powered by oil

When the soldiers march across the bridge, oil leaks down its side

Del Toro is wearing a handcuff on one hand just like Reedus. Using camera framing, this detail isn't very noticable until the end of Del Toro's presence in the trailer

The baby doll has cuts in its stomach like Reedus.

The Bowie looking guy manifests in a red fiery sort of effect. Looking back on the first trailer, when Reedus is looking up at the floating guys one the left and right side of the screen that fire effect is manifesting near the ground

Baby dolls are made from plastic, a product of oil, and all of the dead soldiers presumable without oil powers are using weaponry that doesn't use plastics in it, but the living soldier is using equipment with plastic. Perhaps this implies the oil powers allow you to manifest products of oil at will? Maybe at some point they attempted to create a surrogate human with oil powers and failed, making real humans even more valuable? We see the soldier make his helmet disappear in that fiery effect

The necklace Reedus is wearing has equations on it, and notably again appears to be constructed from metal. Perhaps those physical equations are incredibly valuable, hence being carved on materials not able to be influenced by the oil powers.

Then there is the most interesting part, at the same time in each trailer the baby disappears from Reedus and appears for Del Toro

So my conclusion, how will it play? I heard somewhere that its supposed to have multiplayer like Dark Souls, so I'm guessing given all the other symbolism there will be a "souls" counter except for oil and its powers, you can invade other players taking a form similar to the Bowie character. If it truly is using the Infamous Second Son engine, than there will probably be an emphasis more on your oil powers than gunplay. The world will have, as part of its mechanic, parallel realities, both because Kojima will use the opportunity to use his imagination, and because Kojima likes to dabble in the "meme magic" topics, probably some Mandela effect themes as well.

Basically, Kojima is trying to stay on the cutting edge of memetics, make proper innovations on Dark Souls multiplayer mechanics, address the concern of a limited supply of oil and the impact oil has on our life, and somehow incorporating horror/stealth into it.

Is it wrong your theory made me a bit hyped for this game?

how come so few people know of Mads Mikkelsen

No, if Kojima legit made the game I think he's implying from the trailers, than I am excited. Staying cautious for now


I found out who he was halfway through writing my post, he hasn't been in anything I've seen but Hannibal is on my Holla Forums watchlist

Before I read any further, I googled that, and literally the first result is the fucking Mary Sue, then there's a bunch of reddit threads where people seem to be "guessing" what the game is about.
Is that really where people are getting this rumor? Kojima himself never said anything about environmentalism as far as I can tell, he's only alluded to themes of evolution in his interviews at most.

What does it means?

i gotta say, games notwithstanding i will always love kojima for the nonstop ruse cruises when he's making a game

Its going to be an "Interstellar" rip off except instead of some sort of plant-life crisis its something EVEN MORE CRAZY.
Oil is probably going to come to life and be like the black goo from "Prometheus".

That said, its going to be heavy as fuck with symbolism that really only Kojima fucking gets.

As far as i'm concerned, after seeing what happened with MGS4 and MGS5 it is clear the guy has gone off the deep end on his own "creativity" and his own celebrity.
People liking MGS2 a decade later was probably the worst fucking thing to happen to him.

It's a cold place. The first trailer looked like Iceland, or a place in that latitude. Maybe there are experiencing an ice age?

I read it in a Death Stranding thread here, so its a game of telephone whether that's actually the case. That said, beached whales, heavy oil symbolism, every characters action making oil imprints. Even if it isn't "GLOBAL WARMING CAUSES ISIS AND BLM" it's probably going to be "We are going to run out of oil eventually, and this is a metaphor for the inevitable conflict if we don't act now" kind of message.


I was reading about Antarctica the other day because I saw a sun dog on my back porch, its a rare occurrence in the states but apparently pretty common down there due to how cold it is. Basically, it'll be set near Antarctica, which is another rumor I heard here, likely because its literally the last place on Earth that hasn't been checked for oil. Or like said a mini ice age, which the Earth often undergoes, creating themes again of Environmentalism and showing this to be a futuristic or alternate Earth setting

Lowroar, the band who made the song, is from Iceland

Funny thing is, we are actually discovering lots of oil and gas all around the globe. It turns out petrochemicals are present in other planets too, so not everything is fossilized dinosaurs, and they can be a lot more common than we thought. There is a gigantic gas field under the sea next to Israel for one. For two, there is oil in North Korea. Japan wouldn't have attacked the USA if they knew about it back in the day. They actually wanted to drill there because they found coal, but they needed American equipment for that, so they gave up.

Actually, what you're saying makes sense now. Considering Bridges Del Toro had a pin with "United Cities of America", it's possible the game will in fact take place in America, but due to the global warming supposedly fucking up the climate, environmental conditions will shift and create an Ice Age around the world, like you said.

Well, fuck…

Here are some more.

Alternate trailer

It looks like Guillermo tried to recreate the "bond" umbilical cord Mads has with the skeltal soldiers. You can see that it says caution on the container so you can assume it's man-made.

loving the anti-cap and pro-enviro messages that are already painfully obvious. i have high hopes for this one.

fug forgot to sage.

As true as that is, if we don't leave this planet, we will run out. Oil isn't infinite, and we won't be able to grow forever, even if we find more today. I suspect the people in Death Stranding weren't able to leave in time to find more. The tale will be cautionary, like most of Kojima's political thrillers.

Although judging by how clean his clothes are, I am going to say no, Del Toro probably won't have the oil powers.

Not saying oil powers, but some sort of awareness? There's the obvious connection between him and the baby when he turns the valve.


Kojima did say to pay attention to the lyrics,

Scratch that, after seeing the different teaser I think that using the baby is like a last resort thing, Guillermo did look uncertain when using it.

Also I heard they're using inFamous Second Son face capture, not sure about the rest of the engine.

That seems too literal for Kojima, he likes to use things like that to make very blunt analogies. The formulas are , one describes black holes, the second one justifies special relativity in a quantum context and also incidentally describes antimatter. The Schwarzschild equation could just be very literal literary shorthand for a singularity, a twist in reality or history beyond which nothing can meaningfully travel or be observed (the discovery and utilization of oil would be one, in a metaphorical sense). I don't understand the metaphorical use of the Direc equation at all besides maybe lol teleporting baby They're also both hypothetical power sources that produce power through annihilation - black hole engines would produce power from devoured matter via Hawking radiation, matter/antimatter doesn't need to be explained.

Guys, watch both the first trailer and second one at the same time. Shit will fuck your mind.

slowpoke.tiff

I still think this is a mislead. I mentioned in the other thread, which I didn't really follow up on, that I think the black goo either is or is inspired by ferrofluid, not oil. At the very least, it is clearly visually inspired by it. It would also explain why people come out clean. I'm not certain though.

I've also been thinking a lot about the meaning of the dog tags. I mean, obviously they're physics equations, but what's the point of inscribing them on a bit of metal? Then I got to thinking about the original purpose of dog tags, which is to identify who a soldier is and where he is from in case they die.
So assuming some sort of dimensional travel, which seems pretty likely given what's been observed about the teleporting baby, if the dog tags are there to serve as an identifier of where someone comes from, then the implication would be that the laws of physics are either a) found to be different or b) assumed to maybe be different on the other end of dimensional travel.
The only other use I can think of as regards writing these equations down, is a first contact scenario. Scifi writers have written any number of stories where math and physics equations are assumed to be the best way to establish a foundation for universal communication between our species and a hypothetically more advanced one.
All that said, recall the tweets from Kojima's assistant regarding the title, Death Stranding, that heavily emphasized the difference between a death stranding, in which whales die, then wash up on land (a world they don't belong in), versus a live stranding, in which they wash up first, but are nevertheless stuck. Furthermore another tweet mentioned changing the definition of death.
Where I'm going with all this is that I think the trailers imply that humanity in the future attempts some sort of dimensional travel or sends someone in a black hole expecting either ayyliums or a breakdown of physics and winds up finding a weird not-actually-an-afterlife alternate dimension connected to our own.

No, pure Guerrilla tech when it comes to Death Stranding. Its some sort of co-operation with them.

Why does Kojima do acid on a regular basis?

Where are these coming from god dammit

The Del Toro character has surgical scars around his head.

So instead of "nukes are bad" messages, we could have a "global warming is bad" in this game, where text literally pops on the screen saying "X is happening, yadayadayada". I don't feel like those themes were handled badly, because there's always been enough campiness with over-the-top shit and fun gameplay where you never feel like you're being preached at. Hopefully this is no different, but I fully expect DS threads to be shitposted if such themes are present.


I wonder if one of the goals of humanity in this game is to travel and colonize space.

The "I took the easy way out" and "one for one" lyrics seem to synch up with Toro stealing Reedus's baby, so take that as you will. I also just realized Mads is grinning because he looks at the doll, sees Del Toro and knows he has the baby. It's the thing that links what we've seen of Death Stranding together.

Everything still reads Ragnarok for me. All of the warriors returning from the dead for one last battle, hence the skeleton GI's, tons of natural disasters occurring, wrecking the landscape. The subsequent submergence of the world in water, and then a rebirth. All the icelandic settings and themes seem to fit.

These are the lyrics of the song:
Easy Way Out, by Low Roar

Did you call my name?
While I'm passing up
The mistake I've made
It can't be turned around

I took the easy way out
I took the easy way out
I took the easy way out

I would hound for one
Before casting up
The mistake I've made
It can't be turned around

I took the easy way out
I took the easy way out
I took the easy way out

I wanna feel something again memorable
I wanna feel something again memorable

I wanna feel something again memorable
I wanna feel something again memorable

for some reason, in the video the subtitles says "I heard you call my name" instead of "Did you call my name?"

Could that explain Mads compass going haywire when the tentacles come out and then going normal when they're gone?

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BUT I'LL KEEP COMING

That was one of the things that made me think of it, yeah.
Of course Kojima plays pretty fast and loose with the science in his sci fi so whatever it is I don't expect it to be much deeper than nanomachines handwaving.

have they said anything if these trailers are mostly just cryptic images for the final game, or if the final game will use this crazy imagery?

They're clearly going to be using a fair bit of these environments, assets and characters in the full game, regardless of what it plays like.

Self explanatory
This is a reference to fishing, you cast out a line to begin fishing. It is also a naval term meaning to toss a net or a rope in a direction, to cast it outboard. Thirdly, this phrase could be talking about civilization itself; to be cast out or to cast out your friend is to have a quarrel with them, or to otherwise be on unfriendly terms with someone who you once didn't feel that way towards.
Babies are often called mistakes by people who don't want them, though a less thoughtful answer might be simply just an action that was not thought through or with unfavorable consequences
Kinda self explanatory, this phrase has two meanings, being literally turned to the opposite direction, or to be lost, ie losing track of where you are, though in reference to the last line it might mean there is no way to take back the mistake
This is a term used to describe suicide, meaning the mistake could be the opposite of birth; a man killed himself, mistakenly thinking it was the easy way out, and has found himself in this hellscape where you are tied to a baby.
To give an example, if you play a game of rock paper scissors and win the first round, this is one for one; you have won 1:1 games. I don't know what this would be a reference to though; it usually signifies victory or being correct once after only trying one time
Either he killed himself or he had a baby he didn't want
The mistake or himself, probably the former
This line creeps me out a bit; I don't know if characters on screen matter to this, but I think Mads is deprived of his joy, his child, and he wants a child for his own, the only way for him to get one is to take it away from Goodman del Toro and put his umbilical on it. It's also possible that his only children have all been or turned into skeleton warriors, which, again, have no capacity to feel. Thirdly, this may be in reference to the purgatory esque nature of the place and how you can't feel anything anymore, because you're dead.

Sounds like Kojima apologizing for MGS5

All part of his plan

Well shit
this only pushes the idea that he passed out because he sudokued, meaning the first time it's talking about him dying and someone calling his name.

This so much, not just the Gyo part, this whole thing reeks of him and Kojima working together

Junji's horror has always be about normal world with something out of place, mashing the familiar with the unfamiliar. The weaponry, soldiers, and the world has a distinct Junji vibe to it

The symbols and the insanity part is just Kojima doing his thing

FAINTLY

Your'e fucking retarded.

No, the second trailer starts 30 seconds after the alternate and it matches up perfectly, there is a reason why kojima made the trailer 30 seconds shorter and without the song first and then made the alternate, also it also matches the pose reedus and del toro make at the same time in both trailers

Well it might not be so far-fetched. Norman does cry like the baby was taken from him.

nigga pls

youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nuHEGhwiw&start1=86&video2=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6goa1pI_az8&start2=86&authorName=aphrocarlin

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Plus, he retweeted shitaco.

No matter what, without a single doubt, PETA will be pissed off.

INTO THE RUISE CRUISE

Actually, I came to the conclusion that the first trailer is a big JoJo reference.
It adds up, right?

Can you imagine if the two creators worked together with Toro?

that would be too many good things for this forsaken world, user, it would cause the universe to reset 37 times.

Guys, fuck my head hurts. I'm thinking about how to watch these and I've put together that there's something happening with the lyrics
Does anyone else feel like the lyrics are telling a bigger story together rather than apart?

back to normalfag land with you

I dont really see how you can know if hes an anime only fag for posting a picture.

You can tell because he's posting about jojo references, particularly about references made in the most current part
this is a stand that appears only in part 4
I'm struggling to remember what this is referenced from, but I'm pretty sure it's something in part 4
Someone who actually reads jojo knows that not everything is a jojo reference and similarities on particular parts are mostly unintentional, but fun to point out. The anime picture tells me this also. Someone who reads would also know that there are more similarities to Highway Star with the hand prints and Gappy with a naked guy showing up on a beach looking confused.

very nice. I told myself I wouldn't get excited, but here I am getting excited.

are there any decent political/ecological horror games to play while waiting for this to come out?

aside from
-MGS2
-Deus Ex
-Spec Ops

shit

Maybe he hasnt reached part 8 yet? i know i havent.
And the cables, maybe he means red hot chilli pepper going through the power lines?

Bowie wasn't actually a faggot, he was just a dandy. Fags like to hid behind dandyism, but they are separate.

Maybe in some places but I've never met a Southern Dandy who wasn't gay.

Well, thats not entirely true, Bowie did pretend to be a fag because it was the 70s and it was hip to be progressive and gay, he straightened up during the 80s though, could also be due to the lack of cocaine in his system, not uncoincidentally his music's quality drastically dropped after that because he told Tony Visconti to fuck off

also coincidentally his last album, produced by Visconti, was amazing, and probably the first actually good one he's put out in a decade

Parasite Eve

So it is entirely true. Acting is acting.

>>youtube.com/watch?v=EWqbr6Ae4ro
wtf how come even the fonts from the silent hills trailer match up with the death stranding trailers?

Toro's character is a researcher who was afraid of death. He took the easy way out: Immortality. This didn't mean everlasting life, mind you, but a form of undeath (Stranded in Death). The infants are used as fuel for life, the only way to stave off the black oil of undeath. They're fragile themselves though, which is why they must be kept in those containers. Let's not forget that the child's left eye was shut, probably indicating that they're a finite source of life. This is further supported by the handcuffs: both Reedus and Toro have them on, meaning both of the only two 'living' characters were kept alive, most likely because they can create life (Reedus' C-section).

Mad's character enters with the undead soldiers, who begin to dissolve when they break off from his direct control. He wants to remember something again, and does as the doll hits him: His face that was pale and blood covered a moment ago is now clean and flush, further supporting the fetus fuel idea. He's also most likely a by-product of Toro's experiments, a mutant with powers of undeath control, which might explain the guts attached to everything, acting as his tentacles do.

As for the experiments, they're most likely involved with the paranormal beings we saw in the first trailer, who probably caused the outbreak once they were loose. The pendants Reedus has with the formulaes could be the basic blocks of the undeath equation, given to him by Toro before they escaped. Toro might not have the knowledge of his research anymore, if the scar around his skull indicates anything.

I'm terrible with this sentence shit, but I hope I was clear.

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Does anyone know the song playing from the tank when it goes by under the rainbow?

Motherfucker. Nobody does ruse cruises like Kojima.

That's the game's OST. The composer is Ludvig Forssell, the same guy from MGSV.

None of them look any interesting. Literally weebshits.


I can definitely see it.

ITTY BITTY BABY
ITTY BITTY BOAT

That actually sounds sort of plausible, but I think kojima will do something more wanky.

A wannabe fag is still a fag.

The only time Bowie was ever legitimately good was when he had Rick Wakeman as his pianist.

Mads' gun says black hole

haven't played that one, downloading roms now.

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Well, the ride is far from over. It still doesn't quite explain the WW2 era planes and soldiers, and I'm not confident enough to make a claim to the baby oil prints.

We're on to something here

What font is that?

fuck i'm in the ruse cruise and they barely have a teaser trailer out

Absolutely pathetic.

What gun is he using? Granted, I'm no /k/ommando, but I just can't recognize that model.

A rainbow appears as Mads' helmet disappears.

Here's a vocaroo of the loudspeaker being played in the trailer.
vocaroo.com/i/s00922Zb47BO


Some sort of AR-15

Those disintegration effects look too similar to the Skulls powers from MGSV. My theories are:
a) Kojima is putting into this game all the ideas he tried to in V but had to reshape to fit into Metal Gear
b) He's just reusing visual effects.

Those weren't thumb drives, they were metal tablets of some sort, I can't remember what they're used for or where they're from, but I know I've seen them somewhere else, used like dog tags I think.

a rainbow was god's promise to noah that there would never be another great flood; as a symbol of hope it is significant when presented in the inverse

Yeah. Still, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested. The mismatch between the tech level of the Humans (artificial wombs and modern military equipment) and the Skeletons (M10 tank destroyer, WWII era paratroop uniforms and airplanes) is what gets to me the most. Either the world has gone to shit to such a degree that they're unearthing the most ancient equipment or something else is afoot. Maybe vengeance due to the lives lost in previous wars? If so, you could expect pretty much any soldier to appear. Although, it's probably what an user mentioned above, with soldiers that died on conflicts pertaining to oil. If so, Mads would be the next in line for the Skele army.

For whatever it's worth, his AR-15 seems to be heavily modified, with a custom upper reciever and bolt, aside from the obvious custom front rails and stock. I'm no /k/ommando either, so grain of salt.
Also I just realized, Mads uniform is in US 3-Color Desert Camouflage (DCU, "Coffee Stain" camo). You can't really catch it from the trailer, due to the lighting. This puts him at least in Desert Storm/Invasion of Iraq tech level.

That's definitely an oil based conflict.

TOP
FUCKING
KEK

literally the first thing I thought was "oh shit, it's david bowie"

Too stupid for Kojimbo to be honest; He wouldn't stoop that low.

please dont tell me the game is going to be about guilting white people for the middle east

Grandfather Nurgle approves of this design.

the calculations are for calculating OP's faggotry

The "oil" in these trailers don't feel like it's something worth fighting for. It feels more like a plague spreading everywhere.

Warhammer 40k: A Hideo Kojima game

Talking about nurgle, umblical cord and famous ebola-chan edit…

You all dumb niggers, here`s the totally correct and unquestionable analysis of the trailer so sit the fuck down


Now more on the surroundings


Continuing from the moment the doll first show up


So we are getting some MGS themes again you fucks, this is KOJIMA god dammit, don`t expect a masterpiece again, the ruse has begun

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The game will be one big analogy for how oil is the lifeblood of our modern civilization and that we will eventually run out and we will either have to prepare or stop the coming conflict because of it.

Kojima is a better auteur than Tarkovsky

HOLY SHIT. THE BABY DISAPPEARANCE SCENE SYNCS IF YOU PLAY THE FIRST TRAILER IN REVERSE

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slowpoke.jpg

THAT IS NOT A TANK! THAT IS SELF PROPELLED ARTILLERY!
ARTILLERY-CHAN IS MISTAKEN FOR HER SISTER TANK-CHAN ALL THE TIME AND IT HURTS HER FEELINGS
MAKE HER FEEL GOOD BY SAYING

I LOVE YOU ARTILLERY-CHAN!

I remembered this shit from the other thread

sciencealert.com/we-just-got-the-first-real-evidence-of-a-strange-quantum-distortion-in-empty-space

Kojima predicted the meme wars before

Guys, I'm sweating bullets right now

In the future, humanity has discovered the ability to siphon life energy from other living beings and reverse aging, but with phazon-like corruption. This is the cause of all the dead animals, as well as the skeleton soldiers and lack of fauna. The world has been plunged into constant war over the remaining living things, led by the few humans left. In the second trailer, del Toro is exchanging the baby (which is excellent at reversing age, and therefore a valuable asset) to Mads in exchange for something or other. The age-reversing properties are evident when the doll bumps into him and he appears much 'healthier'.

alternatively, some shit about privacy and a surveillance state and the baby being one of the only humans without a record. this theory is substantiated by kojima's statement that the game is about something "humans will lose in near future" and it specifically ties into the game development. our speculation is part of the game by dissecting everything about it and surveilling its every move.

Because of all talk about death stranding, it made me playing MGS5. Why Holla Forums told me this game was bad? I am having so much fun.

go in thinking it's going to be like MGS4 and burn yourself out for a week hoping it gets good 20 hours in only to realize the second half is all repeat missions and there's no ending

I felt the same, did anyone actually say MGSV was shit though? It's missing some content, but otherwise I enjoy meticulously going through and taking out each individual guard, fultoning them out, and clearing out whole bases like this silently. I have a habit developed from Peace walker where I'll do something and if I get caught even once I'll reset because I'm trying to get perfect stealth, but the game fucks you over because you lose any resources you used, so you just have to do it perfect in one go. I don't really like that, but it just different, it's not really bad to me.

???

what the fuck is up with norman reedus and kojima are they fucking or something

exactly.
I loved MGSV it just wasn't what I thought it would be and left a bad taste in my mouth, maybe it was supposed to but I felt majorly blueballed.
It was a good game, just felt like GRAW with a MGS skin and some "whacky nippon" elements

The soldiers of Nurgle!
Papa Nurgle is so proud

You joke about that shit, but considering how Hayter acted after he got dumped I wouldn't be surprised in least.

reminder that Hayter is still assmad

reminder that that picture is of a guy associated with the pedophile cult.

You know how, if you would be inside/near a black hole, looking "up"/out would show you the world extremely distorted?

You got a point. Actually we haven't seen the sun in either trailer. On that note, an object can theoretically enter a stable orbit inside a super massive black hole's event horizon.

Still trying to figure out what the significance of the compass might be. If its spinning that means there is a magnetic force, but it only spins when the cords and helmet disintegrate. So maybe the suggestion is that the constructs themselves, or at least their equipment is able to convert between energy and mass somehow? Or maybe I'm just retarded and missing something.

Anyone else have some input?


Yes. However I think a lot of it stemmed from bitterness over cut content which I can't entirely blame people for.

Is that a compass? I thought it was a dial for gas masks or something.

it is a compass. A gas meter has no identification numbers on the bottom part

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It's not clear what element/compound the glow is from. How disappointing, I expected more from the rusemaster.

Thorium
Thor
Norse
Ragnarok confirmed