OSVR officially supported on Steam

Is VR making a comeback?

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no

Quality thread, this.

nah

ehhhhhhhhhh… that's still a lot of money

VR headset is not a console.

$800 = $400 device

Nah unless the others are up to some Apple tier jewing, i doubt that comparison is true

Congratulations. You're less retarded then mark still a shit thread.

So, what's used for input? Virtual reality is not complete without proper controls - that is, data gloves.

So it doesn't have head tracking?

There was a kikestarter for something like that.

The OSVR doesn't come with the others' mandatory motion controls and supposedly the head tracking isn't as polished as the Vive or Rift's. It's mainly targeted at developers and professionals who buy VR headsets in bulk rather than gamers.

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It is the way of the future, like it or not. But I have a feeling things like google cardboard are going to end up more popular anyway.

You realise that the motion wand things are the thing that actually make VR worthwhile? Without them it's literally just a display. The one constant you heard of coverage of the Vive and Oculus was that the Vive games that were interesting were the ones that used the motion controllers and that a lot of Oculus games would be better with them.

All I want damn vr for is to be immersed in my video games. Has anyone stepped up and made it so these vr's are compatible with and first person game yet? Cause it would be some tight shit to play thief 1 or ss2 with vr but no head tracking shit.

Talk to me when it's =

HOLY SHIT, IT JUST OCCURED TO ME THAT VR COULD MAKE TIME STOP FETISH PORN

It's a neat alternative, but until you can go to the shop and buy a VR headset cheaply I don't think VR will pick up yet. I hope it succeeds at least.
Personally I just want the vive controllers. I like wagglan and they look accurate enough

with them, it's just a Kinect.

This. I refuse to buy into VR until we get motion control that actually has restraints and resistance. Shit like seems good but you are basically swinging your hands through the air

Kill yourself already

mice are "motion controlled", retard
the kinect didn't suck because it was motion controlled. it sucked because it was garbage that didn't work

go downvote some other thread faggot

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MUH DIKKU

Why does VR trigger so many cunts on this board?

Trinius VR
Go look it up

Because it is expensive and the peripheral nature of VR makes the games made seem what I'd call "peripheral quality"
But after that giantbomb video with Google Earth I really wanted to get one despite that not actually being a game in any real way.

oh shit, oculus rift is 100% kill

Send me a sample and I'll give you an unbiased review. The last VR headset I tried was Oculus DK2 and I wasn't too impressed so I want to see how far things have come.

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Then what's the point? It's just a 3D screen then.

There is no point in VR if you want good games, because VR will never deliver that. It will be used for cinematic movie shit, which the industry has been getting pushed toward artificially.

The point of VR is to brainwash you.

No, the point is better porn.

Well it does supposedly have head tracking.

VR is for porn not video games. I'll buy a headset once there's an affordable one on the market with no gimmicky bullshit.

I fail to see how this is war anything. The fact that now has steam support is just a landmark on the accessibility of an open source product, it means it has better chances of being sold and that more games will start to care about this peripheral (which happens to be one of the best options if you just want depth perception on regular games instead of the "VR experience" all the other HMD are selling).


It's a display with a layer of input from the head tracking. If you can add motion controller to a game without the HMD, you can do it with the HDK2.


It does.


I used the Oculus DK2 on ARMA. Resolution was shit (and the 4 main HMD still have shit resolution up to this date), but the depth perception and that feeling of presence is really good. It will be good as soon as resolution gets better. Hopefully, HDK2 will have Vive tracking one day, that would be perfect.

Interesting as in gimmick, right? With the exception of Onward no VR shit is actually a game or even aims to be that.
The HDK2 can have motion controller support too, both motion leap and hydra have been used without any major issue, if the Vive controllers were sold separately, it could be made to work with the HDK2 too..

Every form of media has been infected with some sort of brainwashing, and you somehow think this is suddenly going too far? How will the screen being in your face rather than on a movie screen affect their ability to control you? You think their gonna build hooks into it so they can trap you in the vr?

Thats OSVR, its the cheapest one, I give it a year to go less no doubt too.


THIS

So you are saying there is no difference between a screen not up to your face, and one that is in your face? That the VIRTUAL REALITY part of VR means nothing?

Your brain subconciously will not register that it is viewing a virtual perspective, nor will your dreams distinguish between the images you saw from that perspective and reality. It is far more effective to get messages across to you from YOUR VIEWPOINT with VR than from a tv/monitor you see as an independent object.

For that matter VR could increasingly be worked into real life settings by utilizing on board cameras to integrate virtual things into the real world. Thus it could be used by soldiers, law enforcement, and SCHOOLS, on a regular basis to control reality for the individual.

Imagine working a job where VR has been implemented in order to make work more satisifying? It's not work you are doing, it's a game!

VR is a terrifying development. Only brain dead retards would think that is harmless. That or shills, which you most likely are.

Oh and to further elaborate on my point you colossal retard; Games have already been moving toward this cincematic walking simulator nonsense that is the perfect trainsition for using VR in everyday life doing mundane repetitive tasks.

Pokemon Go was also a step in getting gaming into real life.

let me guess. you're one of those people who think vaccinations are actually to implant nano-transmitters to gubmint satellites. if you're retarded enough to look through VR goggles and see anything but a SIMULATION than frankly your opinion on what is brainwashing and what is not isn't even worth considering. not to mention the probably benefits of augmented reality - engineers will be able to put on camera-equipped VR goggles and see stress points of a building, pilots will be able to make easier and safer instruments-only landings in bad weather, etc. then again, since you've fully committed to the reddit format it's entirely possible that I am now the retard for responding, so

Are you one of those "Augmented Reality" faggots who think that shit is good for actual games?

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Be more clear, you babble too much.
This makes it sound like AR (like pokemon go shit and other stuff) is good… it isn't.

The motion controls arent gimmick
Try them, you faggot

What does that have to do with both of you not reading or understanding my point?

VR should be rejected in the cradle. In the fucking cradle you kike.

I was perfectly clear.


Nice projection.


Normalfags will buy whatever is fucking popular. I know plenty that went for Pokemon Go. So you pretending like Holla Forums's opinions matter for the fucking world is hilarious.

I rather care about niche products, at least that shit can be enjoyable. Leave me alone with my simulators and actual games. Building an argument around what the market does or what the normalfags enjoy is fucking retarded and gets you nowhere.

First off, you are talking about augmented reality, and secondly, what is to stop someone from rejecting the technology? Surely anything you can do in a vr headset could be done on a regular monitor just as fine.

Once you go VR porn you never go back.

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That's reddit spacing… and a very reddit opinion.

Trinus in neither libre, nor open source.

The point, is that this shit will effect your every day life in a decade tops. If VR is allowed to catch on. Don't give me any bullshit about the technology not being there. Cell phones went from pic related to pic related in the span of 7 years. Popular technology advances much more quickly than you seem to imagine.


VR is inherently linked to Augmented Reality. The same technology can be adapted for either.


You didn't read my post. You think I'm talking about the quality of gaming. You are so fucking retarded.

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I'm not talking about the quality of gaming nigger, I'm saying how are they gonna force you to use the headset, just like in you could get bye today with a nokia phone and a computer that runs vista, so whats stopping someone from just not using the vr headset at work or school?

Stay in school, champ.

If that's what you call a paragraph, you're clearly too young to be posting here.

The point isn't what you personally as a fucking tiny minority of consumers wants. The point is what this can do to society, and what it will be used for.

You can help prevent that by killing it in the cradle. I.e. Don't fucking adopt the technology at all and vehemently oppose it.


Fired.


Expulsion, and possibly criminal liabilities. "The curriculum requires it."

You seem to have a distorted reality if you haven't seen anything similar happen with other shit.


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The irony is thick.

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It seems to me like they both are

It seems like your autism is not very functional.
Now fuck off with your reddit writing and your stupid opinions no one cares about. This thread is not about the shit you're talking about.

Why is a luddite like you even using the internet?

If the point isn't want I want, and that I can't change it, then why are you telling an image board with about 2000 users and dropping to not adopt? Surely our opinion shouldn't count then right? And on the topic of school or work, I haven't ever seen a kid be expelled for not owning a computer, and therefore unable to complete online curriculum. Work I guess I could see that.

Understanding my point is not the same as talking about rejecting VR. My point wasn't rejecting VR, though that is my intention, my point was about what VR can be used for. Rejecting it is a separate point I made right there because you and the other user were too fucking stupid to understand my initial point and couldn't come to the conclusion that VR should be rejected.

And look at all this backpeddling from paragraphs being multiline to now trying to nitpick my paragraphs.

What are the other examples? You know, the ones that make up the majority of my posts? Not that it matters, you are just distracting from the topic at hand. Strongly smelling like shills in here.


Speaking for all of Holla Forums are we now shill?

Shills confirmed. Wow, this must be pretty big afterall.


Uh huh, this is out of the ordinary for Holla Forums, amirite shlomo?

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Keep telling yourself that buddy. I'm sure eventually you'll save the world from the VR apocalypse.

Go read a book and see if any decent writer uses the same logic to split apart subjects into paragraphs. Heads up: They don't, the subjects there are way too related to separate them into two different paragraphs. I've got the feeling that your autism makes it hard for you to understand certain subtleties.

What? Where is the backpeddling? My only claim about your spacing was that it is reddit shit… and it is. You need to check the IDs more often, mate, at least until you get used to post chains and telling apart one user from the other by just reading the post.
You can have two paragraphs without the blank line in the middle; People do use paragraphs on small sentences, even on imageboards.

That's not enough to convince anyone that you're not from reddit.

1. everyone here wants VR for porn and vidya, so if only Holla Forums adopted it then it would never be used widely as like I said, this entire website has few users and it's dropping every day, and it isn't something inherently anti consumer like DLC, it has potential for good that you completely deny. Also calling me a jew or shill will get you no where.

Nice CIA meme

No, you are shills because:

1. You all pop in the thread, to argue with one user saying something you claim is so ludicrous it shouldn't even be typed.
2. You seem overly concerned with this user being wrong about something you claim is ludicrous and not a problem.
3. Instead of actually arguing coherently against what user has said, you instead favor insults and distracting from that topic.
4. You attempt to project your personal opinions onto Holla Forums as a whole, as if you speak for Holla Forums.

Now some of these might just mean you are a retarded faggot, common enough, but all together makes me entirely suspicious. Especially when it is several of you all coming into the same thread at the same time saying the same shit like a hivemind.

Smells like shills doing damage control to me.

Nope. I don't believe I will succeed at saving the world.

I'm not writing a book, nigger.


Having spacing between paragraphs is not "reddit shit" it is proper form. You tried to then pick apart my paragraphs for not being separate themes. That is backpeddling from your initial complaint because you got BTFO on it.


No, it just shows you try to use reddit in order to discredit anons. As if that wasn't transparent to begin with.

How do you argue coherently against lunacy? If you say stupid shit of course people aren't going to take you seriously. Are you new to the internet?

i'll play

this is why everyone is so convinced you are not from here. this is how it works. someone will pop into a Doom thread and say "JEWS DID 9/11", people will make fun of him, because frankly we've had every discussion a thousand times already, and then everything, good or bad, will be forgotten
the fact that "one user" (read: you) thinks it's a problem doesn't mean jack shit to a single person. you have zero proof of any of your wild accusations and claims and instead come off as a guy standing on the street corner wearing a THE END IS NIGH sign: an annoyance to be ignored or ridiculed
how do you argue something that is so retarded as to be seen by virtually everyone but you as nonsense? this would be like grabbing said guy with END IS NIGH sign and getting into a long and involved conversation. at best, you have wasted your time. at worst he could be dangerous
and you, claiming that "all of us" are just "blind to this problem" are doing any differently?

Which would be money feeding the VR industry. Money that would be turned into development which would move toward what I talked about. Unless you really think that VR would stay limited to what you personally happen to like.

DVD players played children's movies and porn just the same. The technology isn't limited by your tastes.

What was lunacy about it? None of you have had a coherent argument against it. If something is crazy it is easy to point out why it is. The only difficulty comes is if you are trying to paint something rational as insane.

Go ahead, dissect the lunacy, faggot. Nobody is holding you back.

Do you do this in every thread? You do realize this makes what I am saying seem more significant, right? This intense focus on disproving a set of wild shitposts on Holla Forums is very suspicious.


Sure thing there Chaim.


The thread was dying before I posted in it.


How are you speaking for "virtually everyone"? How is it retarded? Are you saying that it is impossible for a job or school to require a piece of technology? Are you saying that it couldn't ever be presented beneficially? Are you saying that VR technology couldn't be used to augment reality? Are you saying that VR technology couldn't be used to control someone's perception of reality? How so? What about if they were wearing it nearly every waking hour? What if they thought it was completely harmless? What if it made certain things look better while other things looked worse? What if it had real life incentives like money or fame?

You are basically saying "don't bring it up, nothing bad will ever happen, you retard" without backing any of it up. Very suspicious behavior.


The all in that context was the anons responding to me. Keep being desperate though, it is funny to watch.

it's time to stop posting

At least try not to be so obvious about it.

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I guess I could use proxies too, but I don't care that much.

You're retardation made my day, thanks fag.

Thanks to you too, fag.

Yes, I'm sure that a handful of anons that might actually buy this shit will be the corner stone to fund the R&D of the dystopian VR future you're babbling about. I'm 100% sure of that. Fuck off already.

You mean those wild conclusions based on absolutely nothing, but your very own lunacy?

And the DVD chooses what movies it will play? You're forced to use DVDS somewhere? Couldn't you come up with a more retarded example to back your stupid claim?

Back on the actual topic.

Let me get this straight,
How fucking new are you?

So like are there any games? Like actual games, not shitty tech demos with PS1-tier graphics?
Fuck, is there at least a way to retrofit existing games into VR? Lime mechwarrior 3-4 or Crysis/Living Legends?

There sure is a lot of discussion ITT but where are video games?

They would be a part of it, and adoption rate is important.

No, because DVD technology is decades old.

DVDs weren't to back my claim. DVDs were to destroy your retarded argument that buying VR for porn somehow means the technology would never be used for any other content. And yes, I did destroy it as evidenced by your low energy "rebuttal" here.


You mean VR? Which is what I have been trying to talk about before you shills got triggered? I didn't realize this was that big, but obviously it must be if you are trying to astroturf the thread this hard.

So far this is the only VR game I've found that interests me.

No I get it bro. I was wrong. All of Holla Forums suddenly decided that I need to stop talking about how VR could be abused. It is that important that I shut up about it. :^)

I'm still waiting for this to come out before I even consider buying anything.

There are no games, and forcing old games to run on an HMD usually looks bad and feels clunky. They are only worth it for porn and for people who can make their own content.

Damn bro sorry I don't have as high of a post count in this thread as you, guess that makes my opinion invalid huh. Its a shame I didn't choose to go somewhere with maybe a persistent account system that could track how many posts I've made. Also I have 2 posts you retard, so you couldn't even get that right.

There are injectors and wrappers that work with many games, but some have rendering issues. I can't for the life of me find if Arx Fatalis works with some of this things, that game alone would make it worth it; Cooking shit in a fire would take game comfy to the next level.


As VR only game? Probably yes. Handguns grenades and shoe horse is neat, but not a real game. Onward on the other hand is aiming to be an actual game, still EA shit, but seems promising.
I'm yet to see some good VR melee, I'm afraid no one will get it to work correctly. All things considered, I think VR works well for vehicle stuff (probably including mecha), guns, vidya porn and simulators.


At the time they are only focusing on the "rental" market, kind of like arcades, but for some VR gimmicky shit. Not to mention it would take one beefy machine to get it to run properly.


Have you tried them recently? Shit got significantly better, specially with more modern games.

Ah, yes, your opinion.


What was retarded about anything that I said? How did you read this entire thread and conveniently I am the one you respond to? If it was just you responding to the newest posts, then how do you even know my argument? It's halfway up the thread, faggot. There is no way you read it. So either you are just shitposting, in which you deserve to be treated like a shill automatically, or you are a shill.

You basically appear like a "me too" faggot popping in to repeated the same shit when you clearly have no idea what is even being talked about (unless you are a samefag shill, lol)

Also, what memes did I spam? You can't even get your story straight.

I have one sitting on my desk. Most modern games have at least minor fov problems, because they assume a 16:9 screen and 1:1 pixel ratio. Almost no game supports proper head tracking, let alone position tracking.

I just want to play more cockpit based games like DCS, IL2, or Mech games.

You didn't spam memes retard, we did
And the retarded shit I'm talking about is when you mentioned people using VR to brainwash, and saying users won't be able to discern reality from fantasy, which is retarded shit

What do you have sitting on your desk and what wrapper are you using with it?

He doesn't even have reading comprehension. Just ignore him already.

The low resolution and relatively low fov on current HMDs kind of ruins that. You'd be much better of with a multi screen setup and head tracking.

hah.

Why are you still posting, faggot? You're relying on the same "they won't be able to distinguish between video games and reality" argument that faggots back in the 90s used on video games, and guess what? It was bullshit then, and it's still bullshit even with fancier, more immersive display technology. Sure it might have some use for hypnotizing people and all that shit, but you can already do that with your eyes and voice with a little practice. Should we ban the human voice and eye contact because people can exploit them under the right circumstances?

So you want some gimmick controller with tactile haptic feedback? That technology doesn't exist yet. Fujitsu tried something similar for their tablets, utilizing ultrasound waves.

Or maybe you want a full body suit with haptic feedback? Google Teslasuit then. The first factory model will be horrendously expensive, probably costing more than a VR headset.

i think the most encouraging part of the whole VR thing is how quickly new technologies are going from idea to prototype phase. back when all-touchscreen-no-keyboard phones became the norm, there was a firm (maybe samsung but can't remember for sure) who came up with the idea of having a touchscreen that could "grow" buttons when the need arose, such as a keyboard for typing or a shutter button for the camera mode. obviously nothing came of it commercially but imagine, the idea has already been put forward to "sculpt" a design into a surface depending on what the computer running the whole thing says what should pop up. combine that with clever programming in a game and you too could be running your actual fingers over virtual nipples and labia in no time

if Amazon reviews are anything to go by, the tracking on OSVR is lousy/wonky.

I'm waiting for a headset with a 120hz screen to buy into VR.

I got to use the Oculus Rift at an auto show on some racing game. It was really cool and worked really well, but that is only because in driving games you're sitting in a chair.

Asian, fags and women have motion sickness, are you one of those? Or maybe all of those at the same time? If the later, post pics

The only reason I'd ever get VR is for porn/porn games

No, I am just suggesting that the problem with VR is that you have no space to move. So you have to do that teleport shit.

You do know walking isn't the only possible input for movement for VR stuff, right? HMD is a display with an extra input option that some games can use for camera/view direction if devs/modders want to and are able to.
Teleport is a compromise for faggots, Asians and women. Onward has controller movement and people can play it just fine. I played Quake 2 with the OR DK2 without even getting dizzy or feeling eye-strain.

I haven't seen that picture in a while

Gee where have I heard this before

God damn casuals with their fucking automobiles, can't even ride a fucking horse

Fair enough. But is some way I feel that may take away from feeling like you're actually in the game.

Damn, I haven't checked in on this in a while
I can't wait for the update

I miss times when developers focused on GRAPHICS, physics, gameplay and story, instead of this gimmicky bullshit

if it gets down to $300 and I might become interested. Mainly for the porn

At that point you might as well get FOVE
But I just want China to make something like that 4K Pimax except with a good refresh rate

just get a smartphone and google cardboard for the porn. honestly, it gets old pretty quick

Nope.

vronlinux.com/articles/osvrs-hdk2-headset-and-linux.27

Right now the GNU/Linux crowd are making their own Vive drivers rather than bothering with the OSVR. Valve is a safer bet for their investment of time and developer resources.

The OSVR had one single job and it fucked up tremendously by focusing all their development efforts on the Windows platform with worthless token Mac & Linux support they could put on marketing materials. It's no different than the Oculus in this regard.

If you're going to spend hundreds on a VR headset go with one that may have a future 10 years from now. By 2019 a cheap chink phone with a decent holder will outmatch the HDK2 from today at half the price. Combined with USB-C it'll allow you to play tethered to a PC giving the Vive and Rift a hard time to justify their high prices.

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The best part of VR has been all the VR hate guys it's drawn out. Seeing them constantly make up new excuses for why I should not like something they have never tried is hilarious.


I want this so bad. The feeling of presence will be amazing.

so?

How does that work given the Vive and Rift have different specs?

I know hanging shit on things you know nothing about is a Holla Forums tradition at this point but you should really give it a go.


I have a but of experience with the Vive and Rift and for me the Vive is the best by far. With both I prefer seated VR over walking around shit but the Vive controllers are amazing in the few situations the are designed for. Think of it as a steering wheel for you PC, it's shit for just about everything but fucking awesome for driving games.

since when does mcdonalds give out coupons??

Who the fuck eats at McDonalds?

Fellate a gun, you autistic fucking idiot.

Holla Forums shat on motion controls for a decade now (and with good reason). They can't go back on it now.

I can't believe there are retards in 1908 that still think automobiles aren't a meme.

I don't care much for immersion or graphic fidelity. I'm more excited for what VR, and therefore depth perception, means for 3d action/platform games.
Video-related is a great use-case for what I'm talking about. I hope VR will spur on more games like it.
Playing older FPS games in 120 fps VR would just be a nice bonus.

should have used black and white/soundless movies, especially since the arguments were similar back then