Alex Jones Being Sued by PEPE the frog Creator

Alex Jones Being Sued by PEPE the frog Creator


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Normally I would make a joke about the frogs being gay, but I won't do that today. How sis this not protected under fair use?

it is, Furie is just filing lawsuits hoping people settle like cernokike did. to him its free money

Styx was right about Matt Furry. He ruined his 15 minutes of fame and is just making himself more and more irrelevant. Is it worth making yourself broke to file a lawsuit you know you're going to lose?

At this point there is Boy's Club Pepe, and then there is imageboard Pepe. The Pepe we know and love is more of a derivative character.

I'm pretty sure its become its own thing at this point.

A lost lawsuit here would mean memes are dead, meaning parody would not exist anymore.

This will only end up boosting Alex's popularity and the case will fall apart. It would also result in hyperinflation in the Pepe market, as you'll likely have millions of his followers shitposting Pepe everywhere in retaliation to this. So if Alex holds his ground he can exploit this to weaponize Pepe for his own ends.

So I'm not exactly sure the ADL thought this through, because I would imagine they're the ones instructing Furie on how to conduct his business. In contrast, it would a cunning move if it's an effort to wrestle control of Pepe away from imageboards to Alex exclusively like some sort of disarming attempt. Interesting to see how this plays out.

I think they are trying to get alex with a death by 1 thousand cuts right now. He is being sued by like 14 people for mostly bullshit.

Shit, I need to liquidate my rare Pepes before that happens. I lost 6 million shekels last time the market crashed.

Doubt any will truly stick, and I don't think Alex's financial reserves are that shallow to drain from a flood of frivolous lawsuits. The increased popularity would also boost profits in an attempt to mitigate the loss. If they aim to really hurt them, they'd launch attacks on his merchandising line.

*hurt him

I want to kill myself


I hate this world

I'm no lawfag, but I do know that the funny thing about copyright is that the holder has to actively and consistently enforce it. He can't just arbitrarily decide all of a sudden that X is an infringement of his intellectual property out of the blue after a long period of not enforcing it against other cases of infringement.

People have been using Pepe for years. Some of them have been using him in a for-profit manner. Now it's a problem? Doesn't hold water.

he got a settlement out of Cernokike

Pepe's public domain because matt never tried to enforce it until recently and he has no legal standing now.

Likely because it would have cost too much to fight it and win. That's what some of these lawsuits actually count on, people not being in a position to fight long enough as they have limited funds, so they settle.

Anyone have a link to "Boy's Club"? I'm curious to see if we can find a way to differentiate Holla Forums pepe from homosexual attention whore pepe. It sounds like an origin mythos is in order.

by it I mean his copyright

Didn't he go so far as to publicly state that he didn't mind the use of Pepe? He only became a total fag during the last election cycle.

anyone ever think the filter man and his (((partners))) are gassing your ass with ahh he being attacked by the jew he must be legit right?

I don't buy it he has jew kids and a second wife SECOND beinlike the first one yet g the key word is a fucking rat gene thief like the first one yet he being woke and all gets another jew inbred whore .Don't beLIEve in cohencidents.

Fuck Alex jones false flagging his oppresion from jew tube same way florida was a hoax like sandy hook

What a huge faggot. Where does he live? We should firebomb his house.

hi fbi

he's been going full pol lately

you're looking for /r/faggots

Hey there, wanna see my FBI badge?

MUST BE THE CHEMICALS IN THE WATER

But seriously I don't think this idiot has a case, whats he going to do prove his 'damages' for such an old cartoon?

nope but go head

anyway I think the whole Alex Jones shoah is a hoax to keep the dumbasses who take what they say seriously hostage to jew narratives

damage was done long before Jones got a hold of it

Pepe the frog was not created by Matt Furie. He merely copied him from the real creator Analia Garcia (AKA Candela). She created him in 1988 and has the copyright to prove it. Alex Jones should contact Analia and ask her to sue Matt Furie. She has sued and won against others before.

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Another picture from the early 2000s when her daughters were teenagers.

well, fuck!

Not really immigrants. They are from and live in Argentina. Well, they are descended from European immigrants obviously. Here's Sofia singing one of her own, non-Pepe, songs.

Also, Sofia does like to throw up a certain sign to fans. ;)

NAME TH3 JEW ALEX

FOR 500 POINTS

OR GTFO

I don't know what it is OP but it seems like I every time i come in here, you're bragging. It just gets old man.

i mean, that's why groyper is a thing

lad, no. this is a clown world. you just have to act accoridngly

OR ONE TIME OFFER RIGHT NOW

1488 POINTS

FOR THE WIN

(crickets sound)

Drown in piss jew gate keeper racemixing goy.

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would waifu

no matter what he will die a race traitor in the history books nothing will be said other than the fact he was a liar and betrayed his own race and that he was actually Bill Hicks

Anglo version is objectively superior to spic

It's still the daughters singing it. Sofia sings English songs on her Facebook sometimes. (Recently pretty much without her natural accent. I think she's practicing so she can sing her own songs in English perfectly.)

Wow, this is big news. This really changes everything. This, coupled with how jewtube is censoring the InfoWars channel really brings things into focus: The Chinese are taking over the American media, Hollywood is run by the Saudis, and an evil cabal of literal Nazis have subverted the US government.

I used to think that there was a jewish conspiracy to enslave the world, wipe out the White race in the process, and expand the state of Israel in the Middle East (to serve as the seat of the throne for this wold communist government).

That was before I saw this. That's before I saw that Matt Furie was suing Alex Jones for misuse of his intellectual property, Pepe the Frog. My worldview has been flipped totally on its head, the scales been pulled from my eyes, the veil rended apart, and the truth laid bare for my soul to see: Alex Jones was right all along, about everything. This PROVES that he is /ourguy/ and always has been.


ADL probably paid the settlement fees for him, and also offered him a cut of this pending case with Jones, for going down easy in court so as to set a legal precedent for Furie and his jewish legal team to squeeze shekels out of future targets (and put legal pressure on random targets simply to terrorize them).

WilmerHale is representing him, same law group that represents Monsanto and the Chelsea used against Eron.

Representing who? Jones or Furie?

A settlement provides zero legal precedent.

Furie

Oh, OK. I was trying to find out who represented Analia Garcia. Probably just some random Argentinian lawyer. (Maybe not so random to Argentinians, I don't know.) Because she won when she sued Adriana Szusterman.

Soros is going all out paying for a fancy fucking lawyer like that. Perhaps it is time for some digging into this Furie fucker. kek.

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EL PEPE SALTA SALTA

satire is amazing

Matt Furie somehow managed to copyright his rip-off. But his copyright has expired! Who here is going to snap up that copyright for Matt's rip-off Pepe?

trademarks.justia.com/868/48/pepe-the-86848125.html

His trademark expired, which is good. Anybody can use Pepe the Frog now. The problem would be the copyright, which is very different. The legal argument against his claims to Pepe would be his refusal to protect in for a decade coupled with the derivative nature of imageboard Pepe. Basically Smug Pepe is not the same character, but effectively a parody of the original; hence protected.

I just thought of something. Is a copyright always worldwide, or is it only in your own country unless you apply for like a worldwide copyright? Because if it's worldwide he was totally infringing Analia Garcia's copyright. If not then maybe that's how he got away with it.

If I was Analia Garcia I would be really pissed off. Because pretty much the exact same thing happened in Argentina. Adriana Szusterman not only ripped-off Pepe but even sung Analia's copyrighted songs! And she changed "her" Pepe more than just adding lips, he looks totally different. (See this pic of Adriana's "Pepe".) So, like Matt Furie, her fake Pepe became so popular that back in 1999 people thought it was the real Pepe. So Analia sued the fuck out of Adriana and won! It took her a hell of a long time though. She didn't win until 2016. Curiously the same year that Matt Furie's possibly dubiously obtained copyright expired!

Then again, maybe Matt can claim his is just a "parody" of Analia's too? But can you claim your own copyright on a parody that you made? :/

What's the difference between copyright and trademark exactly?

Argentina is a signatory of the Berne Convention which means any copyright she holds in Argentina also applies in the United States.

Sure, but it weakens your case. You are claiming infringement of your IP, but admitting at the same time that you are engaging in fair use. Basically a judge or a jury can look at you from the perspective of "wait….?" You are effectively arguing the case for the defendant at that point.

Copyright deals specifically on the fixed intellectual property. Trademark deals with symbols and names used to market a product. Basically copyright protects the fixed form, while trademark protects the definition. Trademark has to be protected more, because it can be lost to common usage. See: Elevator. That is why Jell-o and Coca Cola defend their trademarks to the bitter end.

Why does matt furry think he's in any way relevant? People only started liking his gay cartoon after we fixed it.

So Furie's copyright that he claims he has is for the image of Pepe, whereas the trademark is just for the name "Pepe the Frog"? I guess he could argue that technically Analia's Pepe is "El Sapo Pepe" as it's in Spanish. But then again they have used the name Pepe the Frog on the rare (no pun intended!) occasion they've used English text. Like in that English version of the song with the cartoon video.

Let me give you an example from when I was a manager of a Burger joint in college. I had to constantly yell at a fry cook for referring to the chicken tenders as Chicken McNuggets, because if a McDonald's corp representative happened to be there the franchise could get sued for misrepresentation and using a trademark owned by McDonald's Inc. It is why restaurants will correct you if you order a Coke when they serve Pepsi. They have a legal obligation.
Now Patents are a weird deal. Two types. Most people get a design patent which is functionally worthless. You have a screw driver with a single LED at the handle? Design patent? I will make one that lights up the whole handle and be free and clear to market it.

The issue would be if they trademarked it in the USA. Unfortunately trademarks are a little weird. You can make a card game in Japan called 花札, but if I make a different card game and trademark it Hanafuda you are not protected against that. It doesn't really come across in the Berne Convention whereas a Korean word for word translation of say Star Wars would be seen as a violation of copyright.

Well that's confusing. So the name "Star Wars" is both copyright and trademark in any language?

Okay, no. The name "Star Wars" is a trademark, and only the fixed stories are copyright. It is like Tide pods, which kids love to eat, they are a Patent, but the name "Tide Pod" is a trademark. It is like tuna is free, and I can catch those. BUT if I market it as "chicken of the sea" I violate a trademark. Trademark is about the label of a product. Or in this case the label for an IP. The IP itself is protected by copyright, but the title is trademark. Basically if Furie had secured the trademark on "Pepe the Frog" he would only have protection on us calling our memes "Pepe the Frog". While is copyright has limitations based on his own inaction on a decade of memes.

Oh, so when you were talking about a Korean translation being a violation of copyright you meant the whole script, not just the titles? I think I misread, lol!

Oh Holla Forums, you're going to love this. I thought the name "Adriana Szusterman" looked a bit suspicious. So I checked it out and sure enough the surname "Szusterman" is JEWISH! That's right, some jew stole Pepe, claimed him as her own and then the real Pepe('s creator) BTFO the lying jew! (Eventually, after 17 fucking years!)

hebrewsurnames.com/SZUSTERMAN

Exactly. The language difference is a clear defense against trademark, but not against copyright.

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Cernokike's an idiot

Yeah, it seems that the only reason Furie was able to file a case is that he's claiming the sale of drawings featuring Pepe memes counts as selling "Pepe merchandise." As South Park demonstrates you can blatantly portray a trademarked character in offensive parody contexts, and even sell the overall work they feature in, so long as you don't start selling plushes of them and have good lawyers on retainer. This case is obviously still bullshit and filed primarily to harass, but proving that may well require explaining what memes are to a judge.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Have you seen this??? This fucking hypocrite sued someone else because they had a frog character called Pepe in their book! THE FUCKING NERVE OF THIS CONMAN!

abajournal.com/news/article/pepe_the_frog_creator_wins_copyright_lawsuit_against_author_of_conservative

No, that's trademark. Trademark must be actively enforced. Copyright does not.

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Jesus christ, its true, all of it, every last meme will come true.
Kek save us.

Alex Jones Being Sued by PEPE the frog Creator
Pretty sure Roy Cohn is dead

You dont register copyright, its a copyright based in the countries IP laws protecting copyright. Copyright is also upheld by trade agreements, pacts and alliances. Its why china is basically raping every last IP they can and no ome can touch them.

ALEX JONES IS LITERALLY HITLER

MUH 6 GORILLIAN PEPES

May they rest in pee pee poo poo pissssssssssss forever and ever
Shadilay

Doesn't Soy boys club Pepe have yellow green lips anyway

What this is is called "lawfare". The personal friend of James Comey runs a blog called LawFare. Basically, they manipulate the courts to achieve their desired objectives.

The law is unjust by its very nature. All good men hate the law, and all good men hate all those who love the law.

Are they jews?

Wew

Furie doesn't own Pepe. Prior art blows him out of the fucking water.

jews have made copyright laws pretty much valid forever and everywhere

>that eight sided yellow and red sun cross
really makes you think

Probably because there wasn't a lawyer willing to touch the prior art before Soros was willing to end it all.

First pic (infinity logo) would be something trademarked (if it passed the uniqueness muster with the appropriate stylizing etc.)
Whereas in the second we have chodemonkey's "code" which could be copyrighted as it is a unique and satirical farce with no function beyond "entertainment." If it worked in a unique yid-free way he could get a patent unless a yid at the office photocopies his work and submits it with an earlier date ahead of time.

Negative. He made a legal and monetary claim. There is no parody defense as it was clearly not his intent.

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They also have to correct you because you ordered a specific product and if they don't have it and need to substitute it you need to permit it.

checked and kek'd

No shit. However no, Furie didn't have it stolen by the jew. The jew stole it from older frog friends long before the fag came along. Rupert and the Frog Song was out in the 80's. Looney Tunes dancing frog was out a HELL OF A LOT longer. FREDDIE from New Zoo.
Come get some kikes.

I suddenly feel really old.

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Hey Sofia….why the long face?

We own it now, solely. We control the context, thus we control the thing. This applies to all reality.

Those Pepe Solid Gold Dancers are pretty cute.

LOOKS LIKE VALKENBURGER IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

i'm pretty sure the egyptians invented pepe. boys club is a crude bastardization of the ogdoad. Furie should get sued by the aether for copyright infringement

I doubt the ADL (think about what group of people we are talking about here) will be compensating him nearly as well as his managing Pepe as a licensed character could have, he could have made millions during the CY1 election alone. Instead he chooses to attack the people who could be giving him money. He is an idiot.

It isn't about the money made or lost. It is about taking a weapon from the goyim.

Someone please get word to the El Sapo lady and have her sue Matt Kikie into bankruptcy

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The author deserved it.

N i c e

Anyone know what model of shotgun that is?

Ithaca 37.

Can he actually prove he is the creator?

No. He dropped it once because it wouldn't go anywhere. It is just a delaying and harassing tactic to tie up jonestein with legal bullshit funded by Soros or some other kike willing to use lawyers to systematically silence people.

While I hate Alex Jones, this sad attempt will go nowhere and the more this motherfucking retard whines about Pepe the more nazi it will become

Suuuure he is. All about a sad attempt for promotion.
This will end up being "settled" behind closed doors.

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youve convinced me
its the GLOBALISLTISS

Now what?

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Oy vey you're not suppose to see that, Pepe TM is a registered trademark of the internationalists, you don't own nuffin!

Remember, the ADL is behind Matt Furie. Chances are, they pressured him like they might have done with his new anti racist pepes.

Yes, they are from Argentina.
The artistic name of the father was "Pipo Pescador", real name (((Enrique Fisherman))), his specialty was TV programs for children.
They are kikes and Argentina is kiked very deep.
I doubt these (((beings))) will ever sue Matt Furie.

to the people discussing the on the books legality of the case
do you really think this will not be left to the judge own opinion and the jewdicial system can kike the process at will

just look up the duration of copyright law
originally copyright on IP had a very short time limit
however the kiked american courts have systematically extended the time before an artwork becomes public domain so tht every time the big (((american))) culture icons like mikey mouse would become public domain the copyright protection is extended
the yid will not lose his shekels

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Except those shekels they are trying to claim belong to another yid who in fact stole them from others with prior art claims. He won't see shit but a bill from the kikes as a thank you for being able to use him to harass jonestein for pushing the wrong kike narrative.

The only reason a penniless faggot like Furie would do this is because someone else is bankrolling the court battle. Furie cozied up with some of the lefty media over the past few years because they think he can somehow defeat us by using Pepe against us.. Remember when he reclaimed him?.. and then killed him because the dumb shit didn't realize you can't take a meme from people.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if we traced the money back and found out that Soros himself was the one hiring the lawyers and doing everything he can to try and legitimize Furie's weak case which could, at best, force Infowars to delist a piece of merchandise.

Facebook frog is mlp tier. It should have been abandoned like rage comics. It's just that adoptees moved to the imageboards this time.

It's Scientology vs. The Internet again, is this guy going to sue literally tens of millions of people for posting a frog now?

That Pepe creator sure is one cancerous hyperkike. His wallet for lawsuits seems to be bottomless, Im guessing hes being funded on the side by ADL types and being used as a tool to prod white people with from a distance.

Chances are the courts he's operating from are presided over by (((activist))) judges too.

I forgot all about that. Now it makes sense.

so hwo the fuck does this even work

They want a settlement or one bajillion dollars, and Alex Jones being the inside man he is will settle. Then the media will print articles about how Jones cucked on Pizzagate and Pepe, and be able to pretend a precedent has been set of sorts even though nothing really happens.

Because people actually believed jonestein and he was a reputable source of quality journalism right? No one gives a fuck. He's doing it for ratings while the other side is doing it to silence the narrative that has the alt-kikes salivating.

ur so woke fam, jews gotta check their privilege! they oppressin my people!!! my people da strongest but keep getting ass-raped by da jooz!! WHY!!!!!

Sheeit, fo real nigga? Damn, white boi letting a real nigga down yet again.

It's just helping sell more filters and super male vitality.

Could I perhaps interest you in a filter?

Digits confirm, Filterman is going to holocaust them again.
Why didn't you just purchase super male vitality and iodine bundle when you still had the chance?

Can one truly command an egregore when it has awakened?

By all means, allow me.

The frog Alex had on the show was named EPEP, but read right to left as ancient frogs do. He has no relation to PEPE whatsoever.

No. The woman who ripped off their mum is.

Not Furie. The jew stole Pepe from Analia. But she sued and eventually got him back. (Well, she always had him, but stopped her from using him.)

Pipo Pescador/Enrique Fischer isn't their dad, he just performs with them sometimes. Their surname is Hernandez. (Although Sofia uses "Pill" as her surname for her solo career.) According to Wikipedia he only has one daughter and her name is Carmela Fischer Diaz.

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Can we please have an open debate about the pros and cons of infowars without it devolving into a "too woke for me" shouting match? Is this man worth listening to? And if so who is his audience? False flag/controlled opposition aside is he a positive or negative force right now?>>11345563

That's a toad.

Frogs have smooth, moist skin and long, stripy legs and are likely to be found in damp habitats in the garden. Toads have warty skin, golden eyes and prefer to crawl rather than hop; if threatened a toad can puff itself up to appear bigger. Toads can tolerate drier habitats than frogs and spend less time in water.

Salta means "jumps"

From what I've seen Spanish, or at least some (maybe American Spanish?), sometimes use the same word for both. But considering things like the official English version of El Sapo Pepe's theme song (along with its video ) uses the word frog not toad it's obvious he's called Pepe the frog not Pepe the toad.

Think for yourself.