Ass Effect

Was this the only reason this series got popular? Or was it the reason people thought it got popular?

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Ass effect 1 had a lot of RPG stuff in it. You could switch resistance gear to tackle the opponents you are facing. The number of guns was considerable even if differences weren't too big.
If it build on top of that it would be fun. Instead they removed most of that and left it in a state of cover shooting forever.
As a bonus they dumbed down conversations as well.

No, nobody is looking forward to andromeda.

That's not Garrus' ass.

It got popular because Bioware knows how to pander to normalfags. The waifu shit came later.

first game was decent, but they did what they do to most games that get popular and start to casualize it.

space smurf was pretty popular though.

Mass Effect was a solid franchise all the way until the ending of the third game. Great world, decent characters and the gameplay was fun enough for what it was. Then the ending happened

Now replaying the series is like going to a funeral.

Not originally. I stayed because the first game was fun, and I actually liked the second all the way to the ending and all dlcs.

The ass did make me stay though.

No.

No, it became popular due to Asari dick.

The first game came out a really good time when there weren't really any good original IPs at the time.

First game wasn't perfect, but it showed promise and made people look forward to the sequel.

Which was shit.

The first game had pretty good atmosphere. And it wasn't tainted by the action epicool bullshit.

Then there was Garrus and his voice.

100% correct. Glad some people still know whats up. ME1 showed so much potential but they killed it.

ME1 was a good game for 2006

ME2 shit the bed but every numale cuck out there praised it so we got 3-color endings in ME3 because fuck you thats why

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Mass Effect 1 created an interesting premise, Mass Effect 2 was just stringing fans along and Mass Effect 3 destroyed any hopes and dreams anyone may have had for this world and franchise.

Ass Defect: Diarrhea is just raping the corpse.

That has to be the most accurate assessment of it now that I think about it.

Just compare the soundtracks and it's obvious how the series deteriorated.

I liked the 1st mass effect. it wasnt bad and had an interesting gameplay concept. mass effect 2 wasnt terrible, but it was alot easier which made it not fun.

This happened with every modern Bioware IP. The first game is a bit niche, a bit rough but generally alright. Then the sequels become increasingly gay.

Turian's in general are cool.

What, you think that trailer stock music used in games ain't cool?

That's not how you spell Wrex

It became popular because normalfags have shit taste.

I would fuck that Turian.

With the all different choices and outcomes concerning entire races and characters living or dying that can happen in this series, couldn't you feel secure in the sequels technically not being the canon outcome to your adventure in the first game?

I would probably usually play FemShep anyway, but it's amusing that for all their pandering they don't include best husbando.

She wouldn't fuck you though, would she?

It's because garrus isn't a faggot.

A little bit. The games were okay up until 3. 2 was a bit worse than 1 in a lot of ways, but it was okay.

Biggest issue is, it had potential that got squandered.

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It really started to go bad after they completly ignored the premise and plot points they built up and foreshadowed in the first game and forced people to work for Cerberus.
The original premise for ME2 was a little better: Shepard was supposed to get rescued by the non Reaper-aligned Geth. Which would also accomplished whether goals they had of getting Shep away from the Alliance and Council support.

I agree liking dicks makes you a faggot.

Whereas liking tits or ass regardless of gender is simply good taste.

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This is an Asari now.

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somebody

once

I know.

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I was talking about how asari fuck with your head to make them look attractive to you, so non-asaris don't know what they really look like but that works too.

But that's not how it works. Those three guys at the bar were commenting the Asari had features all three races find attractive, not that they mindfuck you.

They were talking about their looks and discovered that each one of them saw different features on the same Asari. There is also a quick glimpse at a "real" Asari when you talk to the barkeep.

Didn't the writers change as well?

No, they said that they found different features the Asari have as attractive, with one of them finally suggesting that maybe the Asari are fucking with their heads.

Nothing in the games suggest the Asari are anything but what they look like.

I'd love to see a source for this.

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You'd see what asari really look like just by looking at a photo or video feed of them, user. The bachelor party conversation is an Easter Egg, a reference to the NWN-era Bioware forums.

Not with mods you don't.

That bitch was from the second game though, First game had ashley, Liara and Tali to fuck.

I guess we know where the quality went.

this, and I liked the soundtrack

I am not homo, homosexuality is between two individuals of same sex. I am perfectly okay being a man, I just find it genuinely enjoyable to sometimes imagine being a human female that is being held by Garrus in his strong arms, getting laid on bed, and feeling his weight coming onto my empty groin.

Even if I am attracted to a male character dominating me, I am not gay, because I need the fantasy to be about heterosexual pairing for it to work.

I am sharing this just because I want you guys to understand that sometimes the human psyche can be a bit messed up, and that straight men can have fantasies that might seem homosexual when viewed superficially by others.

Quarians with those body suits are hot as fuck as well, but I just couldn't find Tali to be attractive as a person. She's basically a spoiled bitch that tags along just because, and they never properly show her technical prowess in the story. I wouldn't have minded Admiral Xen, though.

that's gay, dude

You know damn well what you are doing, stop it.

No, please, tell me more.

You could argue that every dick in a fantasy is a stand in for your own.

Little did you know it's really the effect of MY stand: It's Raining Men!

It fills anyone with an intense desire for cock and a need to play bioware games.

You fucking niggers know I'm only talking about women.

What you have is called autogynophilia and it's the first step towards becoming a tranny freak

Yes it is faglord.

Up to ME2, characters were written reasonably well…
It got more linear but it gained real impact in the story.
First one`s planet hopping and looking for minerals was really stale and story was barebones but it was original

Gee whiz I love that blueberry.

Heck no it wasn't. It borrows elements from well over twelve books hell any books by Larry Niven would suffice. It borrows from old sci-fi which isn't a bad thing but it's not original, it just does its own thing and has its own ideas for things.

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>wish you were born a qt. grill
>only way to "change" this is by mutilating yourself so hard that you become nothing more than a tumblr-browsing abomination

There's no such thing as an original work that doesn't have derived elements from other things, you goon. Some of the best original stories are created by composing concepts from a range of media. Everything is derivative to some degree or other. ME was a nice world and a cool setting with interesting characters and an intriguing story and then ME3 happened and the whole thing died on EA's black altar.

How am I a goon all of a sudden?
And why are you saying exactly what I just said but back to me? I mean the first one needed a bit more polish but I enjoyed it I've never played the sequel and don't plan to nor do I plan to play ME3. EA ruins everything and we will never forget the studio's it has destroyed.

Mass Effect got its popularity starting with KOTOR then gain traction when Romancing became a focus. Sex sells as well as simplified gameplay.

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The more I look at it, the more like a raccoon it seems.

Mass Effect has gone back and forth so many times on asari having scales. I wish it'd make up its mind. They definitely don't have eyebrows made of hair, though, so I don't know what the fuck is going on.

AND THEN I SAW HER FACE

I don't believe jackshit.

LET ME POST KIKEWHEELS, 3 FUCKING FAILED ATTEMPTS

AND WOW

ME2 is my favorite gears of war clone
also it wasn't gay for my femshep to romance garrus, because i always handed the controller to my ex-wife for those parts

Raccoons are cute

Raccoons are NIGGERS

Can you eat them?

Mass Effect was popular because it was the perfect blend of a generic sci fi universe It was calles science fiction x in development for fucks sake, console cover based shooting that felt satisfying enough without any tactics required the first game was an xbox exclusive originally and had invulnerability as one of the abilities and successfully introduced the concept of a waifu to the western audience. Introduce a couple of virgin aliens with weird cultures, who waited centuries for your heroic dick. Never before did gaijins fight so hard to prove their girl was the best. Talifaggots and Liara fans were going at each other on every fucking forum, not understanding that Jack is best girl fite me faggot

You mean, made of pure autism?

prove it

You are wrong, bro. I don't get aroused by the idea of me being a female in itself, which is the core definition of autogynephilia. Instead I get aroused by the idea of getting dicked by male character while I am a woman. To further mix it up, it doesn't happen towards real human males. In a way, sex is a ritual for me. It doesn't that happen, it's has specific psychological functions, a story in a sense, that needs to be fulfilled in order for it to make sense.

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kek
anyone got the webm? cant find it

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I hate /furry/ so much
Bless the man who's currently spamming the fuck out of them

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For a game that kinda sold itself on being able to romance aliens there weren't anywhere near enough options to do so. I wanted rough turtle sex with a fem-krogan.

I don't care what his reasoning for spamming the board is, it's the result I car about.

oh fug a typo :DDD

This is the default femshep in adromeda? I can't fap to this…

Why does every character in a Bioware game look like they're covered in oil?

Is actually rather he didn't, and give the furfags a reason to stay contained instead of moving to other boards like the rapefugees they are.

when I played the ME trilogy it drove me insane that every male looked like a shitskin.

I've noticed this oily look a lot in western artists lately. Apparently in this case, a greasy gutter slut is an improvement over a mousy, rat-faced piece of shit. Tons of youtube commenters would agree.

That's likely Curry Thunder's waifu. I have hope the internet will defile her.

N8 is our glorious gay cub faggot raccoon mascot, you leave him alone.

Why does every character in a Bioware any big AAA game look like they're covered in oil?
I've even noticed it in Overmeme, the characters are strangely shiny.

i really regret ever playing this piece of shit series
even after playing a bad game, i still feel like i have learn something, like what to watch out for in future titles to avoid repeating the same mistake
but from this pile of crap series, i learned nothing, and i just feel dirty and disgusting for ever playing it

the game ropes you into thinking "hmmmm it has potential"
then the second game kind of fucks you mentally but your like "well, it can change, it can get better"
then the third game comes punches you in the gut and bends you over a table while it fucks you up the ass and your just thinking "when will this be over and how did i get here ??"

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In your dreams, maybe.

That sounds pretty hot, tbh fam.

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you can make her good with love, and that's my fetish

ME3 was a fun coop wave survival game where you didn't have to hide behind cover most of the time

ME3 multiplayer was the best part of that game, oddly enough.

It's Bui doing the spamming? I thought that guy fucked off after the "Which Pokémon would you fuck" spam he did awhile ago.

Cute pussy.

filename

No.
>>>/vp/

No, that's a shit collection tbh.

you'll get banned for porn dumps. Trust me, I do it every time in a ME thread

I need good asari porn

That shit is fucking revolting, get outta here.

like a give a fuck i post on average once a day
work and life…

It's Bui. The timing is to exact for it to be anyone else.

I hope /furry/ figures out a way to stop the spam. Usually these attacks sweep out the trash for at least a little while and the board was kind of in desperate need of it.

Oh, and fuck Mass Effect and Bioware in general.

Why? I hope it never stops and he does it any any other alt boards that form, it'll make them fuck off.

That depends on how much you want to lower your quality. Most SFM shit is straight up garbage, Blender is a lot better but nobody can do faces in it.
When it comes to drawings most of them suck completely. I think Ganassa did some good ones.

Did you learn in your womens study class that if you just remove venues for people to speak that they'll just leave?

Because that isn't how that works.

That's never been how that works.

yeah onto other boards that aren't about furry shit

Basically all SFM animators for except maybe 60 or so are trash including the shit you just posted.

That's worked several times here, actually.
The pedo boards are basically all gone, and the /int*/ boards were all ran off to another site. The same also happened with /sp/.

I dont care, my dick has a strong urge. Just anything, including pics

Your standarts must be either very high or very low. I don't think I could name over five.

I can personally only name about four (and one of those guys doesn't even do anything anymore), I'm just estimating how many good ones there actually are.
That webm is fucking shit mate

Got any more?

>there will never be a game that will let you do this

hope you like dicks

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Nah. The guy who made these usually only does loli, he just gets paid to do these.
I wonder how it feels to be paid for making animations of aliens jacking off horses

Why do you do this

Fucking garbage, delete system32 and an hero.

Fine, fine.

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oh boy time for another "shortening a greentext until it becomes nothing more than an arrow" post chain
totally original never been done before nope

And it's just some shitty horses, not even something in lore, like Varrens.

HOW DARE YOU INTERRUPT OVERDONE JOKES

Holy shit, chill out pal.

I have another Varren webm but it's too big for posting it here.

The only thing I'll chill is your body in a fucking freezer

That's not a Varren, though, bro.

things stopped being original in like '07 and thats being generous


Do you have his loli stuff?

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i wanna bury my face in liara's sweaty ass while she pees on my cock as i fap

Sorry, never played Halo.

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Sounds gay you fucking faggot

Thanks man

That's a shame. The animation is pretty good.
I'd imagine it would feel weird if that's not your thing. I'm more interested in how it feels to make something specifically for one person to get off to.

why dont you post to vp then

>human visible face

and agree sfm is trash shame it seems to kill a drawn art to some degree

About twenty percent of these are too big to be posted on this website.
I also have 743 of them sorted and more than a thousand to be sorted. There isn't a thread I could post all of this in.

File limit is still at 12MB?

You could at least do a certain type to its own given thread, its better than posting on Holla Forums and trying, rather than posting on /vp/ and helping the thread and the people who go on it.

Put all your shit into a mega folder and share it fam.

good taste in [email protected]/* */

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Dude seirously, just take it to fucking /vp/. The board needs users and there's no point in posting the same porn in every thread on Holla Forums over and over.

Just reconvert them. Make the res smaller, change the bitrate, etc.

Seems like a lot of effort just to post some porn. You could probably just create a Vola room and dump it all in there.

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I think it's whatever shoots out of these sjw obestialities whenever they cum

Eh, I don't know. It's nice to know that everything in your folders is postable as is.

I think it tried to do what fan-service anime games do.
Give you a cast of endearing characters.

Only problem is, those game catered to Japanese otaku and their boners.

Later Mass Effects tried to be for everyone and satisfied no one- in both characters and gameplay.

Know what is a neat idea?
Being Captain James Tiberius Kirk.
Screwing the prime directive 8 ways till sunday and sexing up aliens.
Know what is also pretty cool?
Being Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
A fairly intellectual man who also screws the prime directive a lot.

Know what isn't cool?
Bland, monotone, poorly animated drek that is best defined by low toned ambient noise.
On paper a pretty neat game.
Basic incentives to validate multiple playthoughs
The ability to turn a game into a really nice choose your own adventure novel with periodic cover shooting.
Ideally I'd like the ability to avoid combat if you dig into dialog well enough, maybe hack things and also have a stealth option, but that takes effort.
With that formula I'd expect a myriad of diverse endings but again, that takes effort.

The first was pretty good, published by Microsoft Games but then EA bought Bioware and we all know how that went.

The real crime is not being able to play an alien in anything other than multiplayer.

Why the fuck is futa so popular and why is there so much ME futa?
It's fucking fag shit.

You have "normal" porn which is male on female and then you have futa which is a character drawn like a female but with a cock attached fucking a female. This is why its popular

Futa is a gateway to becoming a full-on faggot

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I just want to play turian or other races with small intro chapter like the DAI had

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What was the post?

Not only is she ugly, her profile makes her sound autistic too

And her name is shit

MEET PEEBEE, FAGGOTS

Porn dumping

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It is Elfpig 2.0. Proof that no matter how bad BioWare gets, they can still do worse.

The less time they spend in /furry/ the more time they spend in other boards.

You might actually be a "homosexual" (or "androphillic") transsexual. Have you considered speaking to a gender therapist, or maybe doing a trial run of HRT? It's good shit.

The only cure for the freak is a bullet.

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I'd call this a wasted opportunity if I wasn't so sure the game will just be dumb, loud garbage

/sp/ left because their board was forced before anyone to being the guinea pig for infinity next, you fucking newfag

Would have made more sense if each ark had a proportionate number of aliens of every species so if one gets lost the whole race isn't shoahed.

Also, the MC should have been one of several captains of scouts vessels tasked with exploring the new galaxy instead of this "chosen one" bullshit they've got going.

Only love is with us now,
something warm and pure.
Find the peace within ourselves,
no need for a cure.

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death is the only peace some will ever know

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Are you that faggot who tried to tell me that everybody on earth is Bi-Sexual because trap porn wasn't gay? Because I havn't seen a level of complete ignorance and retardation that high since this post.

well homosexuality is a mental illness.


Missed opportunity. I remember hearing that the series was supposed to end with Shepherd getting more and more mechanical parts added to get more powerful that he ends up being basically not human any more and not just controlled by but sympathetic to the reapers. Apparently the third game was supposed to end the same way the first one did but instead of fighting Saren augmented with reaper tech, it's you. We could have had the xenos genocide that any true human supremacist dreams of but instead we got manface "women," some kid giving the mc PTSD, and three different colours of explosions.

Chances are that you're already a full on faggot in denial. It's rare when I see completely straight dudes turned gay by porn.

I think you don't understand at all what I am saying, retard. Like I said many times, I am not gay, nor do I advocate it. If someone likes that, then okay, their choice, but it's not for me. For me the act of sex is about female and male intercourse. For example, in my eyes straight beastiality is much purer than human-to-human homosexuality.


And what comes to traps, I think they are an abomination. They are not male or female. They go against the natural order, therefore shouldn't be involved in human sexuality.

I don't give a fuck about your deranged logic, I just wanted to know if it was you or not. Which you aren't. It's nice to know that there's more than 1 of you faggots on this board now

You should, user. How can you call yourself civilized if you don't know all the ways people can think?

You make yourself intentionally weak, disgusting.

why do people always look worse in Hollywood photos?

Here is how it went down:

Mass Effect 1: Interesting space RPG and perhaps one of the last of the western RPGs to really hit the staples of RPG gameplay. The stat picking, the powers, the inventory, and all the other bits of customization. It didn't do anything new or groundbreaking but it did do what it tried at very very well.
One of the things it did super excel at, however, was world building. They had made a large galactic world that had a sense of a history to it and that felt REAL. Not every species got along with eachother…there was racism/specism, a galactic economy, and alien cultures that were like our own but had their clear differences.
People wanted to know more about the world and how it worked because it was crafted in a way that felt like it was a world that could be lived in. It wasn't just window-dressing as so many sci-fi and fantasy games tend to be.

ME2: Continued the world building but it was a complete reboot of the game entirely. You focused more on the characters this time which I guess lots of people wanted. But anything and everything in terms of gameplay was WAAAYYYYY dumbed down and made to resemble what other people were already playing (COD and other shootemups) so it could appeal to a much larger audience.
It was precisely this move that made ME massive successful and popular. Had ME2 stuck with the same gameplay formula as ME1 then nobody new would have come to the series. ME2 being a reboot is even so blatantly evident in that you don't even need to have played ME1 to understand anything about the world or story.

ME3: Continued on from ME2.

Were the waifu elements part of it? Yeah…but keep in mind that those waifu elements were largely pushed by the larger audience that ME2 had courted. Of course it all snowballed from there.

If your chromosomes are XY, you are male. If they're XX, you are female. If they're deformed, you're intersex. There is no room for interpretation here.

Huh, I didn't. I guess that's because it's more cartoony so I didn't notice an unusual increase in shinyness.

You're full of shit. ME1 wasn't an RPG, it was a Gears of War wannabe with useless stats bolted on top.

Dump points into shitpiles of nothing, not that it matters since hacking and lockpicking can be easily circumvented with all the gel you make from all the shitty loot the game throws at you. There are no stats that matter outside of combat beyond the red/blue bullshit.

Boring and unimaginative. Classes barely differ one from the other, and certainly do not offer any unique roleplaying opportunities.

You're a fucking nigger. The inventory system was an atrocity. Choke of a cock.

They fucked up the worldbuilding in ME2 as well, which a lot of people don't seem to understand. Cerberus went from a breakaway military lab to an omnipotent, secret organization that somehow everyone knows about anyway–it's like an entire organization becoming a Mary Sue.

You got that part right

I already know how you think.

Traps are psychological concepts, not bound to realities. Not truly capable of existing IRL. Can only pretend being one.


I got it all right.


Now you are just projecting.

well again, ME2 is a reboot.
Consider ME2 essentially like Star Wars EP. 7, or Jurassic World. The ties to the previous works are there and canon in some way but for the most part only matter as a jumping off point of ideas. In structure out of the three games they're like the Back to The Future movies.

BTTF1: Written as a stand alone film who's ending was partly a joke.
BTTF2: made in response to the popularity of 1. Essentially the same movie as 1 except now they had to account for the fucking flying car, going into the future, and all this other shit that they set up in the end of 1 with NO FUCKING PLANS TO CONTINUE IT.
BTTF3: Actually tied to two and the connections between BTTF2 and 3 are very clear as it was planned out in conjunction with 2.

So really, ME1 fucked over ME2 because of its ending. In turn, retarded writers went and fucked up their villains (the reapers) by feeling pressured to have to explain and expand them. What you end up with is essentially the old tired DINDUNUFFIN twist with the reapers and you also devalue their threat. Much like what happened with The Borg when you jump from TNG to Voyager.


You sound exactly like the type of person who needs to leave.

This is exactly why you're mentally retarded.

Dubs have spoken. Krogans confirmed for best looking

I always liked the skin texture they gave to the Asari in part 3.

How come more of the cunts didn't act totally surprised or like Wrex when they saw Not-Actually-Fucking-Dead Shepard? How is bioware so shit at writing.

That was just the effect of beer goggles (another Easter egg btw), not mythical Asari illusions. Besides, as has already been pointed out, Asari look normal in both photographs and video feeds, invalidating that theory anyway.

Honestly I just don't know. I would venture to guess that perhaps part of it was to try to downplay those previous relationships?
Remember, ME2 is a reboot.

From what little ME lore I remember, asari reproduction is done through grafting nervous systems together.
It's entirely possible that the asari could have other powers relating to the nervous system, such as the ability to permanently re-wire brains to see something else when looking at the asari, which would cover them even when electronically surveyed.

You saying the mind control will travel with that photo?

Don't need to, the photo should reveal the true form.

Except if it's like MK Ultra, as that guy suggested, it would overwrite truth even if the Asari isn't present.

Looks like antifa snarkcheesian

Looks more like Ashley Burch with tied up hair to me.

Looks like a greasy teenage boy

You're right.

You're a faggot and traps are still gay.

Arrogant faggot detected.

No, the 3rd game's ending was supposed to be tied to the 2nd one where you either sacrifice the whole human race so that the reapers can use the DNA to halt dark energy expansion before it destroys the universe or kill the reapers and attempt to find an answer to dark energy yourselves (suggested as impossible so just kill the reapers and live for a few more hundred years).

Thats why you have an ex-wife.

Garrus is now calibrating her

That sounds pretty retarded, how would human DNA help solve that problem?

Bioware said they wanted the CoD audience. That's when I knew to stop buying their games

Humans Are Special™

Ashly Burch looks like a greasy teenage boy.

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Little did he know what that would actually entail..

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I'd still fuck it

It had no good gameplay, story or characters so why else?
Also ALIEN LESBIAN SEX made it more popular.

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Actually the ME1 ending left things in place for a sequel, problem was THEY FIRED THE ORIGINAL WRITER AND MOST OF THE TEAM

That why ME2 had that bullshit omgthesheepisdead what-a-twist thing

Also I kek'd at EDI, never seen a more one-dimensional character that was nothing but fanservice of the lowest kind. Shit personality, jokes off a friends episode and more T&A than all other waifus in the game combined even though she's a robot and has no need for tits or ass

I remember saying what a shit character she was back in 2012 and getting a lot of flack and other shit from cucks and gmrgurls. A prelude to GG, should've seen that coming…

yes

I'm still amazed Bioware managed to keep mass erect as popular with the sjw crowd as they did, considering every cutscene with Miranda featured at least one shot of both her tits and ass and they gave the fucking robot visible cameltoe

The left, and that includes SJWs have always been self contradictory from the very beginning. It's all about how they feel about a thing at that given point in time.

In the pre-GG world, you could get by on token gestures, like having gay stuff or doing the tired "strong independent woman" thing for the millionth time. If it had been released in a post-2014 world, any and all of the Mass Effect games would have been skewered, because now you have to bend over backward to declare your allegiance to the SJW cult, otherwise you're part of the infidel out-group.

GOD DAMMIT WHAT THE FUCK WAS THIS? I KNOW I'VE HEARD IT BEFORE

You probably have heard it from that webm with the dancing letters spelling out autism, but I don't know where the original is from.

That's from Monty On the Run.

Rob Hubbard needs to start making music again the way he used to, completely disregarding the past 30 years. Even Toby Fox grovels at the feet of Lord Hubbard.

That's it, mefags are officially retarded.
What kind of a fucktard plays me 1 and goes "yup, this is what wrpgs are supposed to be all about"? Were your father and mother blood related before they got married?

It has stat placements that you need to be conscious of. Loadouts that matter. Character classes that matter to your play style. A very large and detailed world and your actions/decisions have weight. No, it isn't as robust and deep as some others that came before it but that was never what I was saying.

Compare that to ME2 and of course the stuff that came after ME1 that ran along the lines of basically being shooters with a couple of stat points and you'll see what I mean.
Other than Bethesda, who in the mainstream AAA western devs were really trying to push out RPGs? Especially as brand new IPs?

Only a few stats matter, and they have to do with damage, and health
If you count having no skill in a specific gun makes you functionally retarded then yah.
Hide behind cover, use attack. Rinse repeat.
A very large and detailed world and your actions/decisions have weight
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
True
Almost anything compared to that is better, it's like comparing almost any RPG to skyrim.

Why? I'm not retarded.
Why the fuck do I care about mainstream AAA shit? I avoid them for a reason.
ME released in 2007, the same year Obsidian's Mask of the Betrayer got released. Needles to say it slaughters ME in every way when it comes to "rpg".

Ok. And so how many people know about it?
Again, this is AAA and popularity we're charting out here.

Why should I give a fuck?
No, that's what you're doing because if you left your precious AAA bubble you'd realize how dumb you are.

Oh, you're one of those super cool guys that disregard the thread topic and just come in to shit post and tries to make sure all these anonymous people know you have a superior taste in video games.

Fucking retard. They need to stop giving computers to autists.

Only if you have some preg.

At least he has taste, unlike you.

Um, no they actually left hanging.


He actually stayed on for 2. Remember the foreshadowing of that Dark Energy shit. That was leading up to something, THEN they fired him.

Your loss really.

Not really. The story was a nice neat tight little self contained thing and the looming threat of more reapers is not a hanging ending at all. Simply put because the "still looming threat" can be removed from the end of ME1 and you can still launch right into ME2's story.

Again, ME2 and ME3 are clearly designed to tie together as it was clear they would make a 3 where as ME1 was made to be a stand-alone game. Why would they do this with ME1? because its a new IP and they have no idea if its going to be a big enough hit to substantiate a sequel.

Don't let the devs lie to you about this sort of shit when the evidence is right there in the games themselves. This also extends to movies too.

But then how would you get your hands on the latest teenage fantasy with the protag whose dick everyone wants so you can fulfil your dreams?

Worse, they moved him to write the main story of TORtanic, where he fucked up just as badly as the ME and DA writers.

The series was announced as a planned trilogy from day 1, like Advent Rising and Too Human. Karpyshyn had his own (shitty) ideas for the trilogy, but EA taking over got him moved to TOR while Walters was promoted.

yeah and you probably believed it when the Wachowski's said that they always had ideas in mind for Matrix 2 and 3…
Despite the fact that the story concluded itself in 1 rather nice and neatly and the events of 2 and 3 are clearly more tied together to eachother than 1 ever was.
Or better yet, you probably think Kojima dindunuffin to end up with the abortion frankenstien of a game that was MGS5.

Dude, its simple. Just. play. the. games.
Look at the actual fucking products.

Or just do me a personal favor and never end up on a jury somewhere.

huhuhuhuh

Gee willikers me too!


you couldn't? well fuck me then.

Never even cared about Mass Effect, but now I can see the types of autists it attracts.

A poo in the loo?

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You could've had the crazy pirate bitch, the space gypsy, or the slavic qt, yet you pick the woman who feeds your fish..

I didn't even bother with buying the fish. It was only on cuckchan I discovered she could fed them for you.

you have such sights to see

"There's singalong mode!"
Christ.

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It saddens me to say, but EA was the best thing to happen to Mass Effect. Their increased involvement created Mass Effect 2, which is leaps and bounds above what the old KOTOR team thought an action game should feel like in Mass Effect 1. Mass Effect feels like an XBLA game with a lot of effort put into it, and spliced in storytelling elements from a separate and more competent team. Seriously, the action and cutscenes feel like they were made by two completely different companies but mashed together. I also appreciate the transition to an ammo based system. Even the concept of a firearm heat sink is pretty fucking cool.

I have no comment on Mass Effect 3 as I have not played it due to it being on Origin.
Fuck Origin.

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At least it isn't a nigger.

Stop namefag enabling.

No, the ammo system was dumb as shit in ME2 and proved to show that they were definitely clamoring after that sacred COD audience.
There were already heatsinks in ME1, they were mods to your guns that meant you could shoot them for longer periods of time. The gun modding system was such a neat idea and it was shit on by the need to dumb down things for ME2.

Shit, by the end of ME1 my adept character had a pistol that you never needed to stop firing because the heat sinks reset the heat meter faster than the consecutive shots could build it up.

Rushnerd?

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Shut the fuck up, your post is garbage. Some of us don't want Gears of War in our increasingly shitty RPGs.
I didn't even play ME3 because of how awful 2 was

Are you me?

No, because then that would justify all the >be me posts.

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I got it mixed up with this file.

The fact that alot of pure asari porn has futa in it disappoints me immensely.

I appreciate you, brother.

Got any more .SWF's?

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>you only need it for porn

Jack was fun. After the tunnel she'd escaped down, and you saw the mayhem she'd caused? I think that was the point she dethroned Garrus as my favorite squaddie.

Fucking kill yourself.

You mean that cutscene that in no way shape or form represented what you can actually do in gameplay?

ass effect 1 got popular because it was actually a pretty good space opera. ass effect 2 got popular because gays. ass effect 3 was popular?

If only she were that powerful outside of cutscenes. Her powers really suck, especially on higher difficulties where everything is shielded

I liked my gun-toting, patriotic American tradwaifu the most.

It's amazing how she ended up looking like a russian transvestite with a little bit of makeup..

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The robot was the only one worth fucking and you couldn't.

>Playing games made after 2006.

I definitely liked her character model more in the first game. In fact, I think all the character models took a dip in quality between 2 and 3.

Haha you fell for the linux meme to. It's ok, so did I….

I haven't booted into my Win7 partition in years.

ME2>ME1>ME3
If you think ME1 was better than ME2 in any way you might be one of these retards who think that "potential" is a real thing and not a way to say that the game is fucking unfinished. Worse shooting, worse skills, less distinction between classes, worse armor, worse guns, worse dialogue system. It was boring as fuck, and the only reason ME3 is below it is because that game was also an unfinished travesty but with insults to the player.

is there a name for pics like this?

TARTITS?

Its the magic of sports bras.
You see, when tits aren't made of plastic they can be squished down into smaller sizes. Not comfortable from what I hear…
But this is essentially what sports bras do.

ME2 was one step forward and two steps back. ME2 introduced finished environments, but the lacking customization options and more linear level design compared to the first one left a lot to be desired.

wewlad

Well you're not entirely correct but you're not entirely wrong either.
They could have perfectly well kept many of the RPG and customization elements in 2 while improving on the shaky mechanics of 1.
Instead it seems like their development was on a slider-bar sort of thing where when they improved on one thing they had to take away from the other.

As far as I'm concerned and what i've said many times in this thread, ME1 and ME{2,3} are completely different game series. You don't need to have played ME1 to understand 2 and likewise you don't need to have played 2 and 3 to be fulfilled by the ending of 1.
To which end you're now dealing with whichever is better, at least between 1 and 2, boils down to your preferences for game mechanics and I suppose the core tenants of the story for each game.
So it becomes more of a choice along the lines of what sort of Mario game do you prefer? 2D or 3D? There are objective merits to each type but in the end its going to be a subjective preference.

The only objective metric you could point to here is the popularity of ME2 vs ME1 and even ME3. However, that doesn't really say much about objective quality just how well received something was at any time. The bigger problem with THAT is all in the details of there is an element of being in the right place at the right time. We would have to look to what else was coming out in 2010 in the mainstream AAA to see what ME2 was up against and we would also need to consider the general climate.
A climate in which it would seem game developers were learning to broaden their appeals but also still would pander mostly to fans and not some sort of SJW bullshit clique (Tali is romancable, no suddenly gay boy shepard for no fucking reason).

better than trying to run/jog and having your tits bouncing all over the place shit hurts

They programmed the game to have flags for choices that would carry over from game to game. That alone is proof the games were always meant to be a trilogy. 2 and 3 are more glued together due to Walters getting the spotlight as head writer for 2 and 3. Considering the Quarians talking about dark matter for a significant part of their dialogue.
You can rewrite history all you want about the first game being mostly standalone, but that shit is in the game.

Kojima fucked himself storywise by taking the other extreme after 4 and wanting to pull another Raiden, but Konami still deserves part of the blame for doing shit like cutting power, key card access, and employee shuffling.

Oh yes let's make it less of an RPG while we're at it for the se-…. oh

I dont even get how it is up for discussion, it was marketed as a trilogy long before ME1 was even out.

It's called being a titty monster

I hated how the text descriptions of dialog choices were sometimes completely different from what was actually said.

I hated voiced protag because it rendered char creation pointless and made roleplay harder, I felt like I was a guardian spirit helping a space footballer get laid and then creepily watching.

Sure, but I doubt they had done any writing post the first one, or they scrapped everything afterwards.

They should have scrapped the Reapers after the first game, at least as a threat. As an example, one faction gains access to the reaper tech and gains an advantage - like the Turians did. Some diplomacy, warfare and old rivalries… World building, and making a setting you can actually expand. You'd still have the genophage, Geth, the Zerglings you saved… They should have made it so that you actually build the games with those choices.
Mass Effect died with every iteration. I doubt Andromeda can bring it back, even if it was a good game.

More like it's a soft reboot

It's their attempt at making a Mass Effect 4 without calling it Mass Effect 4 and making it star Shepard. Which is almost impossible due to ME3's ending.

I got red flags immediately when I heard that you could only play as a human. That screamed soft reboot to me hard.

There's no rewrite of history here. I'm looking at the actual final products.
Yeah, sure, you can have those little flags that can be used to carry shit over and have an idea for perhaps going forward with another game but that is all hinged on the actual popularity of that first game. How well it does in sales and how much people seem to want a sequel.

But the sheer evidence of the matter of the games, just ME1 and ME2 in there differences at nearly EVERY SINGLE LEVEL; Mechanics, Story, Characterization, even some world-building elements like the nature of the Cerberus organization, the utility and purpose of Reapers, etc etc etc…
ME1 was clearly made to stand alone while 2 and 3 were clearly made to be together.

And of COURSE they would have wanted to make the game series several games long. The whole fucking game industry is god damn built on making sequels to successful IPs because of the inbuilt audience that brand/name loyalty will get you.


Marketed to WHO as a trilogy? Because i'm searching and i'm not seeing any evidence that it was ever marketed as a trilogy. I'm seeing a bunch of stuff about the awards it got from early showings in 2007, how it was an exclusive to the xbox360 and then later got ported over to other platforms..but i'm not finding the stuff about how it was marketed.


And this is the likely case and what the evidence shows between the two games and what i've been talking about this entire fucking time.
Although I don't entirely agree. The reapers could have still been a threat but they needed to stay alien/lovecraftian in their motives. Perhaps the Geth should have been more of a threat for the second one because the big problem you have when you have a giant incomprehensible villain that is wanked out super powerful and you keep trying to explain them then you run into the problems of now you make them weaker.
Like humans mowing a lawn. A process completely incomprehensible to the bugs that live in the lawn. A process they can't hope to fight, have no idea when its coming…and yet to a human, mowing the lawn is a completely normal and sensible thing to do for a multitude of very good reasons.

The inventory in ME1 was bad and annoying, but the solution should have been to fix it. Just allowing item stacking would have fixed most of the problems. Instead, they cut it out completely–along with many, many other features.


You're probably right. It was the worst of both worlds: they planned sequels from the beginning, but didn't yet know where the story was going to go.

I strongly disagree. ME2 should have been about coming up with a crazy plan. They could still have done the character recruitment stuff: recruiting scientists, soldiers, etc. And at the end, they should have taken their project and plan and traveled into dark space to fight the Reapers there. Alone, cut off. The third game would have had a lot of isolation and horror in it.
FUCK, it could have been SO MUCH FUCKING BETTER.

It was clearly developed as a trilogy from the start given it has a major cliffhanger ending

Also, if anyone has lots of free time and a bit of autism, I recommend reading this ME retrospective: shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27792

Ok you retard, if the ending of ME1 is a fucking cliffhanger that proves absolutely intended sequels (regardless of the product's popularity) then every single time Dr. Claw screams "I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME GADGET! NEXT TIME!" is a fucking big cliffhanger ending to every episode of Inspector Gadget.

Jesus, if you paid for your education please try to find a way to get your money back.

escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131538-Update-Fan-Fixes-Mass-Effect-3-Ending-With-A-539-Page-Rewrite

Go find the Official Xbox Magazine article in 2005 or one from EGM for starters.


You mean one was made while Bioware wasn't owned by EA and the other two were. That's why the games changed so drastically. 2 not so much as 3.

You realize you're implying that Inspector Gadget was planned as a one-off instead of a series, right? You know how retarded that sounds, don't you?

I'm afraid that I will actually read it.

I have, it's not bad. Covers everything from plot to game mechanics to characters who don't survive.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

told me

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No, that's not it at all.
What i'm saying is that the "BIG CLIFFHANGER ENDING" of ME1 is about as much of a cliffhanger as the ending to every inspector gadget episode. That they had a plan to roll from that ending into a story that actually connected and made sense.
So, just like nearly every inspector gadget episode with that "cliff hanger" ending you can disregard the last one and go into the new one with no loss of story or continuity you could do the same for ME1 to ME2.


There's more to it than that. When I see ME1 I see a game that was made to stand alone if need be. Like I had said before, the reason in doing this is that you don't want to make something that is disappointing in a way of obvious bait for a sequel that may or may never come. There are a few examples of this happening in gaming, TV, movies, books, etc and it is almost always a bad move.
This argument is further validated by the fact that you don't even need ME1. You could strip it entirely from the "trilogy" and have a completely coherent story from ME2 and ME3.
The reason here is because ME2 is already a soft reboot of the series.
Your hero is starting from scratch with dubious supports in place.
Nobody but a select few believe him of this big looming threat.
The Reapers themselves are reinvented with new reasons behind what they're doing and now new strategies.
Old staple/popular characters are dumped aside so that new ones that can have backstories not dependent on the events of 1 and the old characters that are brought back have their backstories nearly completely reinvented.
If you killed Wrex in 1 you can still have a Krogan team mate in 2.
If you killed Kaiden or Ashley in 1 it doesn't matter because neither will be joining you anyway in 2.
If you saved the council in one they don't believe you about reapers, if you let them die they the new ones don't believe you about reapers.
Spectre status means dick all and isn't even a factor in the story anymore.

The list goes on.

The question really is WHY did this happen? The change over from private ownership to EA? Them not really HAVING anything planned for 2 and took a star trek "We'll make it up when we get there" approach to multi-part story telling? Writer changes? Who knows…but it is clear that the two games are so far apart that while the game studio would have liked to have multiple sequels to a hot IP (everyone does. look at how many fucking megamans there have been and other games still going) it is hard to fathom, at this point, that there were any actual plans for how things should proceed and go forward.

So while everyone here is arguing that the ME series was planned in a careful way like Star Trek: DS9 all i'm saying is i'm seeing something more akin to Star Trek Voyager.

Personally I see it as changing priorities in development

There were changes around Bioware at the time after the EA buyout. Like I think two of the founders left the company. ME2 and DA2 iirc were among Drew Karpyshyn's last games for the company although he did also write for TOR. There were also some shuffling around the company in other areas but I think it was also the first time Bioware took orders from someone else rather than their designers.

I think a bunch of factors contributed in general. Marketing being a big one. Like I think the "let's kill Shepard" at the start was something intended more for the trailers than the game itself. Since I remember at the time Bioware was even vague on whether Shepard was returning until right up when the game started to release and they pushed him front and center and got the hype building.

I still remember a lot of the marketing at the time. Like I think Jack was also made more obnoxious for marketing purposes as well, since they really pushed her trailer hard when it came out. And it caused a little controversy because of how edgy it was. EA was also pushing edgy with Dragon Age Origins at the same time, when pre-EA it was a more nu-Neverwinter Nights.

I don't think EA deliberately went "we want this game to be dumber". I'm sure they wanted the game to be more of an action game but I'm sure Bioware was on board with that given one of the biggest complaints about the first game was the combat. I think it was a combination of EA, a greater focus on marketing and developers gradually leaving the studio that got the series into the state it's in today.

There were also other aspects of Bioware that changed more gradually as a result of EA and devs leaving.

Like pre-EA Bioware was pro community involvement and pro modding. This was the company that made Neverwinter Nights and designed the game in such a way that you could completely ignore the game's vanilla content and play fanmade mods instead. It was the company that made the Bioware social network, which I think was an idea from before the EA buyout that was gradually phased out as most of the old guard left.

I still remember when David Gaider was considered a bro in the Bioware community because he was not only a dev on Baldur's Gate 2 but he even made a mod for the game's expansion pack called "Ascension". That in his words fixed problems he didn't like in the story he helped create. This was a far cry compared to the defensive, whiny and "let's make our characters uglier as a political statement" Gaider of today. And he even left the company recently. The direction Bioware is taking is extremely similar to other studios EA took over like Origin. Not only did the games become worse but the studio became less community oriented and more insular until EA eventually just dissolved the company because nobody bought their games anymore. Which is going to happen to Bioware at some point.

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I'd say sounds like the future of America, but then the blacks are too busy aborting and murdering to change their percentage of the population in decades

I could maybe see some Hispanic in her, but there's definitely no black in there. If anything, she looks like a typical Greek girl to me.

Your argument that ME1 is redundant to the story applies much better to ME2, since it changes literally nothing in the overall plot involving the Reapers. (Except the Arrival DLC.)

It's mostly conjecture on my part, but 'Williams' is the most common Basketball-American surname & the VO is black

whoops meant for

Well that's the problem when this shit happens isn't it?
You can say ME2 is more redundant but I am saying ME1 is and it really now boils down to where would you prefer to begin the story. Because the conclusion is the same either way and ultimately the collectors and what they were doing and their relationship to the reapers doesn't matter when ME2 is completed.
Likewise, the defeat of the first reaper in ME1 doesn't really fucking matter.

In all honesty, if they were more competent about how they were writing shit…the collectors should have been geth. No reason not to be Geth. Geth were already following the Reapers like some sort of technological god-creatures. Also, they could have been working to make a new massive mass relay to bring in all the reapers..
not some giant fucking goo-filled reaper bullshit with a retarded four eyes Terminator giant in it.

Williams is also a common white name.


If the story of the trilogy is about the Reapers (and it is), then ME2 is almost entirely redundant to that story.

I think you're confusing an out-of-world perspective with an in-world one. For an outsider looking at how the stories of the series are crafted, this may be true. From the internal logic of the games, this is not true–because it prevented the Reapers from performing their planned attack on the Citadel, crippling the government and then controlling the mass relay network.

By that logic the in-world logic of the second game is important because you're further destroying the reaper's agents that are still working within the galaxy.

That's the problem…you can't really analyze the story in such a way by relying on the internal logic alone. You do have to pull back and see what is entirely important to the canon and what isn't.

From my point of view, as it stands, nothing in ME1 really truly matters because ME2 is a complete reinvention of it all anyway. In a way, ME2 is a retelling of ME1.
Sort of like how Terminator 2 is essentially a re-do/reboot/remake of Terminator 1. Yeah internally they are sequels and the events of one should lead to the other but externally when pulled back and looked at objectively it is clearly just the same movie over again and the ties to the first are only in names and a few justifications for character behavior.

ME2 is shit, deal with it. It's Bioware meets Gears of War in space.

The closest thing they managed was that human take over ending in ME1. Which was the best ending. Too bad political correctness ensued and humans became pussies ever after.

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