Zorastrianism

Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

Zoroastrianism is the father religion of Judeo-Christianity-Religion of Cuck™-Marxism, Norse Scythian myth, Greco-Roman philosophy, and "magic".

Why didn't they tell us Christianity is just bastardized Zoroastrianism?

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Evan Young
Evan Young

angles are zoroastrianism

Hunter Wilson
Hunter Wilson

*angels

William Adams
William Adams

Nietzsche knew

Cameron Carter
Cameron Carter

Why didn’t you just kill yourself?

Easton Price
Easton Price

Neitszche put the exact opposite of the actual Zarathustra's words in his mouth. He just used the name because it sounds cool. The Gathas are probably the most pro-normalfag of all religious works.

Noah Turner
Noah Turner

It's all equally valueless desert myth for low-IQ niggers and manlets.

Michael Johnson
Michael Johnson

1. Not from a desert, from steppes
2. Only aryan prophetic religious
3. Lists look better with three points.

Matthew Barnes
Matthew Barnes

Monotheism is just a misunderstanding of Aryan mysticism.

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

Neitszche put the exact opposite of the actual Zarathustra's words in his mouth
Not really.
Beyond Good and Evil fits with the original Aryan version of Zoroastrianism.

It's from the Caucases actually. This is why the thread shouldn't have been anchored by IMKIKE
MOD.

Notice no one comes here anymore. Will continue discussion on 4chan since it's the only Holla Forums sort of left around.

Monotheism is just a misunderstanding of Aryan mysticism.
Lord of Wisdom was the proto-type for Philosophy/magic.

Benjamin Scott
Benjamin Scott

4chan since it's the only Holla Forums sort of left around.
3 months ago I would have called you a moronic shill for even implying that co-opted monitored honey trap shithole has any worth in any way.
But now, after seeing what this place turned into thanks to a mentally deficient subhuman BO and his squad of unfunny weeaboos? I'm not so sure anymore

Caleb Anderson
Caleb Anderson

Yeah I never even used 4chan before. But now that's all that is left… Plus they have about 50,000 times more people.

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

original Aryan version of Zoroastrianisn
The original form of Zoroastrianism is the text of the Gathas, which were themselves a reaction to the religious structures of the early Vedas. The only form of Zoroastrianism that posits a principle above good and evil is the sects that are now regarded as Zurvaist, which does not seem to be ethnically aryan in origin.

John Ramirez
John Ramirez

Zurvanist.

Nicholas Gomez
Nicholas Gomez

Yes but it was still an Aryan faith written in the time of the Vedas according to linguistics. The Indo-Aryan broke away when Aryans started fucking niggers in India.

Tyler Fisher
Tyler Fisher

Why? Because it's not.

Ayden Lewis
Ayden Lewis

No it is… But we're not (((allowed))) to discuss it here or anywhere apparently.

Bannon really fucked this place up when the (((Alt-Right))) used Asians proxy money to buy 8ch

Owen Morgan
Owen Morgan

Both the early Vedas and Gathas are indisputably Aryan. It's best to view Zoroastrianism as what Hinduism would have became if it focused on the Kshatriya class rather than the Brahman and later the Yogin.

Benjamin Campbell
Benjamin Campbell

Also, Zurvan A Zoroastrian Dilemna, The Dawn and Twilight of Zoroastrianism (both by Zaehner) and Dumezil's Mitra-Varuna are indisputable resources if you actually want to know non-meme Zoroastrianism.

Mason Miller
Mason Miller

*Brahmin

Xavier Barnes
Xavier Barnes

Thread on Zoroastrianism
Bumplocked
Faggot.

Jonathan Campbell
Jonathan Campbell

t's best to view Zoroastrianism as what Hinduism would have became if it focused on the Kshatriya class rather than the Brahman and later the Yogin.
Why?

It was created by real Aryans living in Aryan lands, not poohs

Zurvan A Zoroastrian Dilemna
Zurvanism is an attempt to acommodate the radical dualism of classical zoroastrianism
No…

Zoroastrians were not dualists. I thought this too but then realized it was just Christian brainwashing, based on concepts of good and evil which Zoroastrians are Wisdom vs Ignorance, not good and evil.

Angel Martin
Angel Martin

Why?
Unlike Hinduism which focuses nearly exclusively on sacrifice and later, yogic asceticism, Zoroastrianism is concerned with the moral transformation of the world. In later forms, this manifested itself as religious empire. It's a religion of active men, not recluses or mystics.
Yes, they absolutely were dualists. Read the fucking Gathas.

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

Yes, they absolutely were dualists. Read the fucking Gathas.
Dualism doesn't apply at all. Dualism is the belief in competing forms and is not polar. Polarity = Zoroastrianism.

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

They were dualist, but it was the void against the light.

Levi Rogers
Levi Rogers

They were dualist, but it was the void against the light.
Dualism is Christian-Platonic. It's not the right word. Because is "evil" in the Zoroastrian tradition is just ignorance and destruction, it's not dualism, it's a factor not an arche.

Carson Green
Carson Green

No, it was Truth/Light against Lie/Darkness. Void is neutral and embodied by Vayu, who is later split in the liturgy into "the Good Vay(u)" and "the Bad Vay(u)". Angra Mainyu is not non-existence but Doubt. Read an actual fucking book.

Dualism absolutely does apply. In polarity there is continuity. Zorastrianism is not Hermeticism, in it Ohrmad and Ahriman are entirely separate, mutually exclusive substances. One IS and Will Be and One Is Not And Will Not Be.

Jace Peterson
Jace Peterson

But i thought that there was one god that wanted to destroy all and the other one wanted to preserve it?

Andrew Reyes
Andrew Reyes

edit: also Vayu represents empty space not void.

Gavin Martin
Gavin Martin

It's a bit more complicated than that. Ahriman wants to inflict harm on the world because it is a prison constructed for him by Ohrmazd. Men are voluntarily born into the world in order to fight.

The distinction between the two terms is a purely modern, post astronomical revolution one.

David Hernandez
David Hernandez

The actual figure of "space" is Sphir, who represents the heavenly globe and is one of the many manifestations of Zurvan.

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

Time created the Lord of Wisdom. And when created the Lord of Darkness was born inside Wisdom's head. It essentially means ignorance comes with intelligence. It's not dualism.

The distinction between the two terms is a purely modern, post astronomical revolution one.
You're the one using modern constructs, "void". It's really simple, read the above and realize that they're referring to the blindness of darkness

Samuel Wilson
Samuel Wilson

Truth is best (of all that is) good. As desired, what is being desired is truth for him who (represents) the best truth.
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 27, 14.

Unto Thee, O Lord, the Soul of Creation cried:
"For whom didst Thou create me, and who so fashioned me?
Feuds and fury, violence and the insolence of might have oppressed me;
None have I to protect me save Thee;
Command for me then the blessings of a settled, peaceful life."
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 29, 1.

Thus to the Lord doth Asha, the Truth, reply:
"No guide is known who can shelter the world from woe,
None who knows what moves and works Thy lofty plans."
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 29, 3.

Hearken with your ears to these best counsels,
Reflect upon them with illumined judgment.
Let each one choose his creed with that freedom of choice each must have at great events.
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 30, 2.

In the beginning there were two primal spirits,
Twins spontaneously active,
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 30, 3.

For a thinking man is where Wisdom is at home.
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 30, 9.

Robert Hill
Robert Hill

Time created the Lord of Wisdom. And when created the Lord of Darkness was born inside Wisdom's head. It essentially means ignorance comes with intelligence. It's not dualism.
That's the Zurvanite "heresy", which is not the belief of the actual historical Zoroastrian "church" and the empires which contained it. The version you posted is the "high philosophical" version, not the actual devotional religious version.

Grayson Hughes
Grayson Hughes

He who upholds Truth with all the might of his power,
He who upholds Truth the utmost in his word and deed,
He, indeed, is Thy most valued helper, O Mazda Ahura!
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 31, 22.

He who abhors and shuns the light of the Sun,
He who refuses to behold with respect the living creation of God,
He who leads the good to wickedness,
He who makes the meadows waterless and the pastures desolate,
He who lets fly his weapon against the innocent,
An enemy of my faith, a destroyer of Thy principles is he, O Lord!
Ahunuvaiti Gatha; Yasna 32, 10.

A reflective, contented mind is the best possession.
Ushtavaiti Gatha; Yasna 43, 15.

The resolute one who moved by the principles of Thy Faith
Extends the prosperity of order to his neighbors
And works the land the evil now hold desolate,
Earns through Righteousness, the Blessed Recompense
Thy Good Mind has promised in Thy Kingdom of Heaven.
Spenta Mainyu Gatha; Yasna 50, 3.

A righteous government is of all the most to be wished for,
Bearing of blessing and good fortune in the highest.
Guided by the law of Truth, supported by dedication and zeal,
It blossoms into the Best of Order, a Kingdom of Heaven!
To effect this I shall work now and ever more.
Vohu-Khshathra Gatha; Yasna 51, 1.

Satisfaction linked with dishonor or with harm to others is a prison for the seeker.
Vahishto-Ishti Gatha; Yasna 53, 6.

Benjamin Perez
Benjamin Perez

The version you posted is the "high philosophical" version, not the actual devotional religious version.
That's like saying Hinduism should be an example of Vedic teachings. It's not.

And there was no word for "evil" because it's an Abrahamic understanding that we have of it today. Just like they say the entire physical world is "evil"

Anthony Mitchell
Anthony Mitchell

And there was no word for "evil"
Druj, for all intents and purposes.

Hunter Peterson
Hunter Peterson

Druj, for all intents and purposes.
Exactly what I'm talking about.

Druj is an Avestan feminine noun meaning "falsehood" or "deceit", the concept opposed to that of asha (aša).

Anthony Gomez
Anthony Gomez

Religions allowed intellectual betas to achieve followers through numbers to over throw sitting rulers who got there by strength and leadership. Most religions adopted art and stories from the previous to have an easier shift for the new followers to continue on under their new rulers. Zoroastrianism is largely forgotten because it's essence was sifted onto other religions after it.

What was John the Baptist's religion before Christianity? He was baptizing people in the waters before Christianity was a thing. Most prior religions before the strategic subvert was a known tactic were proto psychological healing and philosophical in nature. It sucked ass back then, the future is where it's at.

Evan Cruz
Evan Cruz

Zoroastrianism is largely forgotten because it's essence was sifted onto other religions after it.
You mean it was browned…

What was John the Baptist's religion before Christianity? He was baptizing people in the waters before Christianity was a thing
The Baptism story was lifted from Zarathustra's life though…

Your cultural relativism is pure Communist brainwashing.

Cameron Smith
Cameron Smith

Your cultural relativism is pure Communist brainwashing.
It's reddit: the post is what it is.

But given your options on John the Baptist, what do you think of the Yazidi?

Ayden Hall
Ayden Hall

But given your options on John the Baptist, what do you think of the Yazidi?
pagans

Connor Smith
Connor Smith

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Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

I'm just going to leave this here.

Zurvan = God of time/space, creator of Lord of Wisdom and Lord of Ignorance.

Cave Lion of Cromagnons

Brandon Taylor
Brandon Taylor

Reminds me of facebook

Aaron Cooper
Aaron Cooper

Advaita Vedanta is the pinnacle of Hinduism

Angel Nelson
Angel Nelson

Advaita Vedanta is the pinnacle of Hinduism
I wish we could of discussed this but Jews run Holla Forumsnow

Nathan Turner
Nathan Turner

Should I care?

Grayson Sanchez
Grayson Sanchez

random picture some random guy drew
not only representative, but also defining for Christianity
I don't know what to tell you, user. Other than that having long hair as a man is a sin.

Matthew Ross
Matthew Ross

Literally just start another board. That's what Holla Forums was designed for.

Caleb Kelly
Caleb Kelly

Kek

4chan
50k people
Quality not quantity user. Those are mostly bots and shills anyway. There is endchan and nextchan in beta testing. Or /polk/ in the meantime while you recruit more anons from here.

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the bad Vay
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Sorry, I couldn't help myself. What's the preferred translation of the Gathas? This thread has actually been informative and I appreciate it and would like to know more about Zoroastrianism. Even if it's just a few anons. If threads like this showing the outright plagiarism of the (((abrahamic))) religions can deprogram one christcuck and set them on an older Aryan path, it's worth it.

men are born into this world in order to fight.
To fight the demiurge and it's golums? Elaborate please.

Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

This thread is the result of ignorance about the nature of religious representation through the art that is called iconography. These pictures are derivative by nature and based upon archetypes. These symbolisms are common to all religious art and should be ignored to a certain extent. The sacred texts should be the basis of all discussion.
The Genesis acknowledges that monotheistic faiths existed not only while Abraham was still alive but that they predated him.

Anthony Cooper
Anthony Cooper

Judeo-Christianity
Good luck in rural Europe, or pagan Europe.
Saying Judeo-Christianity will make you look like a Marxist; saying Christianity is bad will make you look like an atheist or worse, a Wiccan.
All anti-Christian "pagans" are called wiccans. We don't have that freedom of speech thing here. Even non-pagans consider anti-christians to be bad company.

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

Thanks user, I had been thinking about the roots of christianity myself. It seems many of hte lessons from the holy books primarly come from zoroastrianism stories, with greek and egyptian/canaan influence too.

The thread anchor is too bad

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