Dominions 4 General: Team Azoreus vs Team THICC edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a history teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

If you have a hard on for history, and mythology and want to pretend to be a god leading your followers into apocalyptic wars this is the game for you!


Join the steamgroup for multiplayer

steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya


steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795


dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki


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jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf


This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.

larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/


steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551


For testing battle formations and spells

dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html


It is available on Gamersgate and Steam.

Currently need 1 more for Team THICC (team 2) llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=8WizardsGenesis

Suggested is Agartha, Nazca, Xibalba, or Oceania; as it is full conquest no thrones and Team 1 has two UW factions.

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larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
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Also Arco is the best; no Lankan poo throwers are going to beat the glorious greeks

Lanka da best

Mummy Incas are fun and I wouldn't have anything against having them on the team but why recommend Nazca as something to balance the UW nations though. They are fliers and don't recruit amphibians, they are a death nation and can summon fully amphibious supayas, but other nations that likes ghost undead like Sceleria could work. Being an air nation would let them make water breathing stuff, but they aren't unique in that either.

Now all I need to do is to read up on how to play squid-brain eaters. Should be fun.

fug, UW nations are weird and I have no idea how to play them

Whole roster except two kinds of slave chaff is amphibious and don't loose/change paths when leaving water so you play them like an astral/water nation that happens to have a capital in an unusual place, I think.

I haven't played MA R'lyeh though and have most experience with LA Atlantis and that's technically not even a UW nation so maybe I’m not the best to give advice.

I did some single-player testing for late age R'lyeh earlier in this thread. You don't have to worry about tanking your scales though. You won't get freespawn either. It might help you come up with a plan for expansion.

You want to get a coast fort ASAP, I know that much. Can't tell you what to do for MP though, though your late game looks Mind Hunt and Communion heavy. You can probably break into blood and air via Moon Warriors, but that would be pretty expensive.


Bandar Log wont suffer from heat and can get UW via Naga summons, maybe. Xibalba is amphibious aren't they? Agartha is amphibious.

sorry, the r'lyeh stuff was last thread

Yeah, MA Xibalba is amphibious, mostly anyway, since the bats can't go into water, but frogs can and they are the "main" race for this age really.

You want to get out of the water since slaves are kind of shit in terms of individual fighting ability, though if you have gold to burn and a couple endless kettles/wine skins, they can make a half-decent blob to put between the enemy army and your starspawn.
Star children with a bottle of living water and alteration 4 are probably the most cost-effective assassins in the game, learn to love them.
Other than that, I don't have much advice since EA Rlyeh is my favorite Rlyeh.


Took a moment for me to remember that this is an MA game and that a Xibalba would be playing frogs, not bats.
But yeah, Xibalba would be a solid contender for that last slot on team THICC, especially with that bless.

Thanks guys. I'll do some SP testing to at least come up with a plan. If we're not starting soon, at least.

Your points are good, but those are all of the reasons why I suggested them.

Even if the bless they'd receive is not the best for the Supayas, Nazca in an of itself is among the most powerful factions in the game due to it's versatility of magic, and upkeep free summons.

Not to mention the scales THICC has would help them greatly. Anyway Xibalba is probably the best choice they get cheap research and the major bless and scales will help out their sacreds very well, since they have such high HP anyway.

Agarthas Shard Guards and Pale one retinues can do very well under water, in addition to their statue armies, and access to Death is always great under water.

I wouldn't recommend Bandar Log, unless whomever is playing them is very confident with the faction. But the bless would work out pretty well for them, it's worth mentioning there is increased chance of finding magical areas in this game so that would also be to their advantage since they're a summon heavy nation.

Just make sure you create a pretender to facilitate that.


You should have an easy time figuring them out, you don't have a lot of stuff to keep track of but you do need to focus on breaking onto land early to set up a fort.

Your best assets are your Mind Flayers which are super accurate with their paralyzing mind attack, and also be aware of what units are "Slaves" and which aren't, I prefer the ones with nets best but other than that Meteorite guards and the abominations work out alright.

Your Sacreds come randomly from your portal so make sure you always have Starspawn Priest working on that, pray for a Vastness and then divine mind/Gift of reason it to get a SC right off the hop.

Also you can pretty much shut down the entire enemy teams mages because of Magic Duel, so don't forget about that.

Slipped my mind earlier, but star children are also probably the only assassins that can consistently deal with thugs, since you can just give them a pearl or two and spam horror mark to feed them to this vicious fucker and/or his friends.

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We should try to organize a blitz every week or two to give newbies experience, as well as to attract new people with discussion.
Thoughts?
Maybe every Saturday at a voted upon time?

I could go for that

strawpoll.me/11593187
thetimezoneconverter.com/
Let's use GMT time in order to make things easier for people who have the misfortune to be born in europe.

We have europoors in this thread?
Also, why strawpoll and not poal.me?

at least one Australian

I’m europoor and would be interested in taking part, since it Saturday I will be able to take part as long as it mostly fits between like 10-00 UTC. Depending on our exact continent distribution it would probably drift towards 20-00(02) anyway since that's accommodating for both 'murrica and 'urp while it's not completely in the dead of the night for australians and they can get in too if they get up early.
unless there is actually very few europoors or australians than murrica gets to dictate terms better fo0r themselves


That makes sense, it was just a bit of an odd man out among the straight up amphibious nations.

Yeah I understand you.

But really I want to get this Disciple game started already, I'm more excited for it than anything else right now. So someone please join up with team Thicc!

Meanwhile, I been trying out the squid-brains. Holy shit Illithids wreck face when they're free to spam their mind-blast. Definitely a terror so long your line holds.

You got what I tried to do

Anyway Pelagia it's only Turn 4 please don't stale already.

I'm from europe
I'm also poor

how do i play multiplayer with a pirated version?

WE NEED ONE MORE FOR TEAM THICC JOIN ALREADY

Hey, fuck you for taking my digits fagstack.

I AM THE GOD OF THICC AND DUBS
DOUBLY THICC

(checked)

that's a lot of numbers user

also

IS THERE ANY WAY FOR A PIRATEFAG TO PLAY WITH BUYFAGS?

quints confirm join THICC already


No there isn't because the latest pirate version is outdated by at least 5 updates by now.

Just buy it, it's a non sjw, non pozzed, game made by two guys who just happen to be swedes.

You can play "Blitz"-style on LAN if you have the same cracked version of the game and put in different CD Keys (if possible), but you are out of luck if you want to use llama for PBEM since that requires having a current version of the game at all times and pirate Dom4 gets updated once in a blue moon, also duplicate CDKeys if you are unlucky.

I think I'm done with EA8nosurvivors. My own early success was likely why I fucked up so bad since I waited far too long to begin fighting

Yomi looked like he was doing poorly in the earlier stages of the game, but it seems he actually had a plan, should have switched to fighting him instead, but i was too deep and really wanted to try destroy your army (which I pretty much failed at, should have given him reinvigoration first instead of going full hog with the earthquakes but i expected mistform again and hoped it will be strong enough to kill some of the mages in first turn), also it would have taken me a gorrilion turns to actually get an army there and it probably would have ended the same. I had a moderate success with bless rushing but I failed to transition into late game and at turning money and gems into power like I always do. I should pick a couple of favourites and start specialising myself in them.

Would play Marverni again when I have better plan how to prioritize research and what to spend my gems on beyond just boars.

Oh, I was doing poorly alright. C'tis and I nearly murdered each other within the first 20 or so turns - we each managed to push to each others' capitals before getting thrown back, obliterating our armies and winding up in a stalemate. Anybody else probably could have waltzed in and killed us both at that point. Luckily I got my Dai Oni SCs online before he attacked again, and snowballed from there.

I was like 5 minutes from staling but I didn't. Thought I sent my turn in yesterday, my bad.


See, I'd feel like a dick just snuffing people out in year 2 because they got boxed in or were shit out of luck as far as expansion is concerned. If I has astral mages I'd just spam horror mark on all the Dai Onis and let the game sort it out for me, but as Thero that's not an option. Your Boar warriors were really damn scary, like when they hacked up like 1/3 of my army after yours already routed.

Good work user, I really dunno how to deal with your SCs right now. Next time I make a Thero god I'll make sure to pick paths that allow me to create fuckin Telkhines, if I could do that then I'd just make some of those guys and have sweet SC duels with you.

$8 on g2a

Hmmmmmm

Xilbalba reporting for some punishment. Will play my turn tomorrow.

I don't mean that we should have snuffed him out when he was doing badly but when the 3 of us were left in hindsight I probably should have attacked him first or split and go for a full on 3way war.

That battle was pretty funny.
Well except that bunch of berserk boar warriors chopping away in the middle.


It has Jewish maneating giants that sacrifice virgins to summon daemons, that's gotta be worth a couple shekels.


Great, the 8WizardsGenesis will be starting soon than.

fuck you people i bought it

now what

Now you read this
z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=1890
And join a game when it's hosted.
If you don't want to go insane get a command line mail client like this
caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/
and write yourself a batch file/script so you can send in the turn with a single click. I can upload an example for anyone not using some automation yet if you want.

At this moment we actually don't have a game recruiting, because we just finished filling up a team game but I think we still have the manpower for another one if someone creates one.
Also we are considering a "Blitz" game on the weekend, it's played in a more conventional fashion with all players connected to the host at the same time quickly taking turns.

so it's a play by email type of deal?

Yes primarily, I know it's pretty unusual format format in the CURRENT_YEAR but because of the simultaneous turn resolution it works for the game and gives time to plan shit out. We take 1-2 turns a day in each of the running games. Try not to miss the 24h deadline when you join because the turn will go through without your orders if you don't send them, as long as you can reliably have a bit of time every day you should be fine and you can always ask for extension if you can't make it.
we don't bully, not anymore at least

I got plenty of spare time

but a shitty memory

also, I am addicted to Ermor send help

DID SOMEONE SAY TURN BULLYING?

SEND IN YOUR TURNS YOU FUCKING FIERY FARTING FLAMING FAGGOTS

Please ignore the ones I haven't send in

8WizardGenesis has begun

Post your Faction battle theme

Y's reporting

Not quite, as it turned out.

Admin fucked up, turned on thrones.
Game is false start.
Have theme anyway.

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Yeah I don't get it, I made sure thrones was turned off and I restarted the game but they're still there.

I also tested in sp to make sure i could do a disciple game that didn't have thrones and you can so I guess the fault is on Llamaserver

W/e what I'm going to do is put on a huge amount of points that will be unattainable normally to win the game but we'll have thrones for extra gems and shit.

Thrones are still present.
Its Glory of The Gods.
If you can't get it without, put every throne on max, make it max points and it basically becomes complete conquest.
GOG is like a 300+ tile map

That's exactly what Im doing, 60 throne points to win, ALL THRONES ON
CHOCOLATE THRONES ADDED

DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED

Turks reporting

Do you make spreadsheets so you have items/spells to focus on and make prioritization easier?
How do you format it?

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larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

I use this, personally.

wut gaem?

Mod inspector and debug mod if I could get the damn thing to work are all you could possibly need.
Anything else is trying too hard.

1984 game called The Screamer


Communicate with your teammates if you're in 8wizards, communication is key!

So you just keep all this shit in your head?
How/why?
I find it easier to both prioritize and remember my options with a spreadsheet.

oh, it's a racing game.

no it is not


I keep it in my head for the most part what I want to do, but when I'm really planning ahead I take my time and look at the inspector.

When it comes to interactions with other players I mean

2 words:
Multiple
Monitors

There's nothing such a thing isn't great for.

Autism.

Sorry for keeping you waiting Vanarus, I had my turn finished before but Dom4 crashed on me.

Its too bad you went full sloth, otherwise you might be a threat.

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Chud Hirdmen are so good I've won entire battles with just them, and no mage support against armies with mage support.

I'm talking hundreds of hirdmen with minimal losses but still.

Don't forget to vote
I guess it will close friday and we can hash out the details then

Has anyone ever done Gift of reason on a Hydra?
Do they get a shitload of helmet slots?

According to the inspector they don't get any slots period.

just 2 misc

Damn they should get head slots, put several lightning caps on.

Only one of them would work anyway. Only one of each magic item works at a time, otherwise I'd just give all my mages two fire bottles/water lenses

THAT'S SHIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT

It's all good, I need time to innovate anyway. Scripting can be a chore at times.

If I lose, I lose. I'd prefer to go out fighting than sit in the corner and turtle up.


Use different helms. A lightning one and a fear one.

Your devilish trips confirm, though to be honest I was expecting you to fight me earlier, or go for Ashdod via the caves.

and if you didn't attack me when you did I probably would had ended the game before turn 40 again

SATAN TAKE YOUR TURN.

sorry, got to go to work. I'll get on it as soon as I'm home in 9 hours or so.


hesitation brought about by lack of experience with dom4 and the mods we're using. I have some dom3 experience, but I would not rate myself as a good player.

I probably should have attacked as soon as our borders touched, but I did not realize you were at war with TC at the time. 20/20 hindsight. Should be a fun war though. Good luck.

I actually wasnt at war with TC right when we met and I know for a fact I could had killed your pretender then

You made the right choice of being peaceful then.

I'm getting a real kick out of this Awful Nations mod, just wish Doom would stop staling out.

I'm going to go AI when I get the chance.
I'm so sorry about the Stalls I just go to make a turns at once and forget about Doom.

The mod is absolute fucked for me, I can't summon one of my commanders I pay gold but they never appear the next turn.
I recruited 3 turns of demons just for most of them not to show.
My Arch-Deamons have an item that the commander that I can't summon is supposed to have.
My pretender isn't doing anything and he is supposed to get free spawn which is why his points are so high.
Finally my re-animating summons are none of the custom ones but normal longdeads.

8WIZARDSGENESIS TURN 2

Good timing. Just in time to do a turn before work.

Fomoria please do not stall.

Hey THICC I like how your Disciples always take so long to do their turns; very low energy.

Unlike my high energy disciples, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DOMINIONS GREAT AGAIN!

I knew your team would take the lead early, we will get the turns in when my team gets off work

FUCKING SEND IN YOUR TURNS, YOUR NEW GOD EMPEROR TRUMP DOES NOT LOOK KINDLY UPON TARDINESS

We should somehow commemorate the election with our next game

Everyone's drunk after the election, I bet.

You faggot, trying to hit me from behind huh?
I'm going to greatly enjoy your painful death!

I think you are forgetting on whitch team the OG wallbuilders are. Chinks are gonna build a wall around the sea. And R'lyeh, you have to go back to space.

How?
You can't stop Hinnom once we go full giga.
Hope you like 100+ health sacred troops with regen.
Makes you kind of wish you kept those Oni around, eh goblin goy?

I'm sure Sceleria will stop you :^)

Sorry about my Fomoria stall, sent in my turn but llama somehow didn't receive it. Didn't notice because I was drinking in celebration of the election.

Why would he? You're the closest to winning therefore your the biggest threat.

That's happened to me as well.
Always double check for the confirmation.

Holy fuck though is my expansion shit in the EA game, Valanis fucked my shit up with placement.

Speaking of stalling don't stall on us frogs/bats, I know you are busy getting drunk and venerating kek but there is a turn to take. in the disciple game.

Yeah, my expansion is slow as fuck too due to caves having move cost 3, and a bit of mismanagement.

I'm surrounded by fucking rivers with Heat Scale 3, while having a throne right next to cap.
Good thing Lanka is my main or I would be worried.

Can we get a delay just for a bit so my team can sober up?

well I sure am not closest to winning anymore since Vanarus attacked me.

But we both know that between you and me are the best guys in this game, and he'd be foolish not to hit you if only to secure his position if I was busy fighting two-three other people.

Yeah I was just about to delay it, don't worry.

I hate it when people stale it just takes the piss out of the game so I wont let it happen

Especially so early on, I would be talking mad shit but I give a break given elections.

Everyone has a better chance of winning with me because I don't care if I win as long as I do well.
Scelaria could win for all I care just as long as we have some neat fights.

That's what you want them to think :^) but we know when you cast GoH no one will be able to stand up to you, neat fights or not.

GoH is a defensive spell though, its not like its EA or LA Jews who can use blood sacrifice.

I'm awake. Not a burger, but I had a few beers in celebration of the new God-King. May the Wheel never turn again. MAGA.

What will you pay me to attack the Jews? Too high an offer, you'll show desperation. Too low an offer, I'll be insulted.

I'll send you the terms in game.

If you're going to barter to attack me I'll destroy you know instead of gambling, you have two choices.
Join in my attack on Nips and have fun playing and trying new strategies, or dying know as half my sacred army is right beside you and you will not stop someone who has excels in death magic in MA.

Oh he's threatening you, are you going to take that Sceleria? I have stealth armies that can aid you.

Also in 8wizardsgenesis I'm adding a new rule because I found Xibalba early and we all know how I am. So my idea is this no wars until THICC and Azoreus are on the field (so end of year 1)

Does that sound fair? if you don't agree with it then I'll just act as I do.

That's not Scelaria that's vanarus, I know how to track ID's.

So it is I wasn't paying attention, well alright Vanarus we'll make a deal after this turn ends, I want to see how well you do in a fight first.

So mandatory 12 month peace?

I don't know if we should negotiate, at most he has 3 Morvarch Knights, his bless isn't that impressive, if you take him to water you can easily roll him as Morvarch knights are weaker underwater.
On top of that we are one nation under god, we will support you, we can do that because we took order and production scales and being Jews naturally gives me expendable gold.

If we negotiate it will be on our terms, the one year limit is most likely him buying time to build up Morvarch, he has the weak hand not us.

Also merrows suck ass, they are expensive and give up movement for 2 strength which is lousy given they have Bronze weapons.
I've won with them before, the shtick is Morvarch knight, swan subterfuge and astral 9 and water 9 bless.
At such small numbers there a number of lesser spells available to kill elite units regardless of glamour.
Plus no astral bless so no increased MR and I believe he took a magic scale so lowered MR for his knights.

i have that on a shirt

If I wasn't so confident in myself I wouldn't had brought it up at all and kept it a secret; remember that.

If you want to negotiate it will be here and now because I'm not waiting days to talk.

You have 3 production but no order, you either making Morvarchs at full steam, making 1 a turn with spell support, OR making a merrow army with Morvarch.
Regardless you up against the full might of Team T.H.I.C.C, you will only weaken yourself and make the game end before it even starts.

So I will only negotiate a 3 year peace treaty nothing more nothing less.
A 1 year treaty only helps you build up a sizeable Morvarch army and basic spell support.

What seriously you want to add more time? I only brought this up for your benefit anyway, you don't know where my team mates are in relation to Xibalba so what are you doing.

If you want more time I'll say till turn 16

Your benefit, Xilbalba is equipped with amphibious units that are more useful then merrow with bronze armor.
You cannot possibly field many Morvarchs, you cannot research quick enough to thug one.

You cannot bullshit a bullshitter.
You do not have the strong position.

And you don't know the position of our nations.
I wouldn't bring it up if I wasn't so confident :^)

Lol well I wasn't bullshitting you, I was being sincere. Like I said I wouldn't had brought it up at all if I didn't want to give him a fair chance.

There is a reason universally in all mythos Hubris is the highest sin.
If you won't take my terms we won't except yours as it only benefits you.

Whatever man, you were the guy getting on my case about being too aggressive before; and I was being sincere. we'll just play as normal

You should focus on building yourself up instead of trying to win as fast as possible.
Either way I don't think you understand the full gravity of the situation.

Well it's only been 4 turns, we'll see what comes to pass then!

Our battles are going to be crazy anyway with all the throne spawns.

Nah, I'm just fucking around…or maybe I'm not. If I can't be a tall poppy, maybe I should cut the others down to size, hmm. Good to see it's not just Vanarus and Shinuyama that are feeling the pressure rise, though.

No pressure I'm prepared for anything just like one of the tribe should be.

deep breaths lad, it's just a game

I just wanted to say you guys are alright; but don't try to chastise me for my aggressive play style, It's just how I am.

I'm really thankful our 8ch dominions group is getting bigger, and better with time: most other places seem to be dominated with goons who are really into this game for some reason.

I hope eventually we'll work on some mods, I had a couple faction mods I was working on before, and a better thrones mod. but what I'd really like to make is a mod where the factions are based off boards on 8ch.

According to some faggot in a wheelchair, that isn't the Peruvian dragster pimp that created the board, all of reality is a game.
Which mean Dominions is as real as anything.

ALSO WE HAVE 3 GAMES WAITING ON 1 PERSON TAKE YOUR TURN

I'm working on a shitty mod. Mesopotamian city state, but populated with humans instead of Enkidu. Umman Manda foreign recruits. Blood focused, demon summons. Based off the guys that wrote the Necronomicon/Naturum Demonto book in the Evil Dead movies and Ash vs Evil Dead tv show. Yes, it will have a spell called Amy of Darkness that summons a shitload of demonic longdead chaff.

Haven't even started on sprites yet, but I have most of the base nation done. Unfortunately, you can't mod in an Insanity dominion, like LA R'lyeh, and if I over-write R'lyeh to get the effect, I can't stop their freespawn from appearing. I'll figure something out, probably through even modding or something. I'll probably finish it over summer. Don't expect too much though, this is just a pet project for rainy days, or days that are too hot to go outside.


see vid

*army of darkness, not Amy.

You could do what the magic enhanced mod does and make an event, or possibly a location that modifies dominion like a throne?

We might actually have one this time.
Half the votes are for 20-00 starting time GMT, which is 3-7 pm EST, and one more is for an adjacent time block, so hopefully we can get at least 5.
Should we do another poll for era, or just an informal "post which you want"

Looks like we're looking at a 1turn/day game for 8Wizard.

Hope frogs didn't forget, he was pretty late last time, i mean we can wait, no bully, but i wouldn't want him stalling.

GG Mictlan.
EA8Scruboff is now over.

maybe, I don't know that much about modding. just doing a cut/paste job at the moment, editing descriptions and numbers. haven't touched on event stuff at all. the insanity stuff was just thematic fluff for the most part, not integral to the nation.

You too scurred to attack my research forest, Shinuyama? You should be.

I really wish the pace was quicker, you would think people would be more enthused to send in their turns for a game like this.

it's a busy week for some people. there's a lot of liberal salt to mine. pace usually picks up over the weekend.

Probably a bit too late, but I'm going to need an email change for 8EAnosurvivors Fomoria. Fuggin cock.li is fucked again and I'm not receiving any mail so I can't take my turn.

If the admin sees this, I could use a few hours extension and Fomoria's email switched to [email protected]/* */

EAT MY DICK VINCE THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR USING MEME EMAIL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Not at all my friend. I'll check out the results after work tomorrow.

I'll spoil it for you


lol. no stormpower sent half my guys off script. I lost 2 mages, 4 communion slaves/blood hunters, a werewolf, about 70 real troops and nearly half my chaff. gg. you sacrificed your capital though. you won't get back in time.

I will be taking my pound of flesh, if you want Vanarus I will give you back your throne, but if you fuck with me in the slightest I will cull you like the goy you are.

I have changed the email, and signed you up for a lifetime of alternative furry porn.
Also I have delayed hosting for 12 hours.

Not so bad, no surprises about the O Bakemono though.

They hit hard have good health, and they're a lot better with legions of steel, but I knew they'd die easy regardless.

Total victory for me there, and this talk about sacrificing my capital is nonsense; I just can't wait to use all of these gems I keep getting from events.

Seems now though that Ashdod wants to fight you, so how about we take a break; You go deal with him and I wont take your mountain fort since I've already beaten you soundly and you'll need it to face him.

However I'm taking back my oceans and Elder Hill; and I think that about wraps it up

You don't say you lost your capital and say you won especially if you're going to use summons with gems to beat him back.
You do it then boast don't boast before you do it or it seems like a threat.

I took Vanarus's provinces because you queers started to bargain about attacking me.
Which is pretty stupid SMH FAM.
I have all my troops still, I think total in this game I've lost lest then 10 units?
Not a single spellcaster lost either.
I think its over for you Shinu, Asphodel, Myself, Scelaria and Vanarus are all on your shit.
Vanarus and I can dish it out after we're done dividing your lands.

I guess you'll just have to wait and see then, you nappy haired mongoloid

Do you think I'm tenchinks?

Thanks m8, just sent in my turn.

I don't care what anybody says, the fucking Ai is tougher then fucking anything.
I try to play SP to practice and put the AI on mighty, which results in all the AI's gangbanging your nations boi pussy.

Oh shit it's friday
So the blitz game is on for tomorrow at 8 pm GMT, 3 PM EST, or in that general period of time if something goes wrong.
If there are no objections, I'll suggest we do late era.
Any preferences for maps?
Mods?

How many players you think there will be?

Well I'm hoping at least 4 judging by the poll. Maybe more

is she gun suk his dik??

I would be afraid she would hurt herself due to the lack of depth perception

Just use thugs. All the AI knows to do with the extra gold and resources it gets is to spam more troops. The toughest nations should be those with good sacreds coupled with the multiple major blesses the harder AI is likely to take. As long as you use thugs and magic effectively then no AI should stand in your way.

I don't have a problem with beating the AI, I have a problem with dealing with the AI.
When you have 5 enemies casting spring hawks, attacking with stealth armies and having a shitload of burnable resources makes it hard to get to an established point.

Shit its common for me when playing Glory of the Gods on SP that the AI will declare war on me without being anywhere near me but because they had a scout.

I play mostly sacred heavy nations so I can make even small armies that slap the AI's shit in, just dealing with all the fucking attacks.

Multiplayer is different as well as you focus so much on each turn.

NEW WIZARD TURN

About time.

Feels like Yomi needs a buff

Every oni troop except the green and red ones medium sized ones are just plain bad, and they all get gimped whenever they leave their own dominion because of chaos power.

Their research is slow because all recruitable mage options are expensive or inefficient at researching

Their thugs/SCs are the are decent, but other nations like Niefl are better at it without the drawbacks of being shit at everything else.

nah, I'll be double-checking my orders. gave my storm caster a bunch of gems but forgot air, that won't happen again. without your archers and flaming arrows, you haven't got much except heavy infantry, albeit, a shit load of it.

let me guess, you're pushing for big oni and you're going to try and thug them out. that's a few turns away, at least. you won't have bird men with the paths I've seen. it will be interesting to see how you innovate.


I'm busy. I don't have time for your bluster and paranoia. I've seen Asphodel do more than you and I don't have to listen to their empty posturing. Make a move, or don't, no skin off my nose. I'm sick of hearing about it though.

AI teaches you bad habits for multiplayer. It can't counter your moves. It can't counter your counters to it's moves. doesn't use thugs or even communions that I've seen. rarely will it use raiders, assassins and stuff like that. even so, you can bet that a nation like Sceleria will be pumping out assassins instead of more priests to reanimate.

good for practicing expansion and army blasting, that's about it. playing against MA Ermor or Lemuria can be good practice though, especially if you turn the difficulty up.


raid more. province unrest equals turmoil for chaos power. priests will fuck your demons shit up, but they fact that your demons can go ethereal makes them good against heavy hitters like cavalry and barbarians. archers and tribals will fuck you up during expansion, because Yomi can't into shields, otherwise you just throw masses of goblins and demons at provinces and don't care about losses because you're playing a soulless nip.

big issue is the lack of a cheap researcher. you should probably ignore a major bless and get an awake god to help you with that. be on the look out for tribals to help with that.

You know when I told you you weren't a threat to me because you were slothful I meant it, you lost all of your chaff armies which is the only thing protecting your squishy mages and Ashdod is at your back now threatening you.

Now that you've told you're going to cast storm, you should be even more worried if you intend to keep fighting me.

At best you're going to exhaust yourself fighting me and then be unable to defend yourself from him, you managed to do a good sneak attack but really all of the cards are in my favour, you don't know what that implies yet and it's not what you guessed.

Question about the blitz.
Whoever is hosting, are we using some sort of virtual LAN for it, hamachi or whatever is the rage nowadays, or will you give out a public IP to join ?
Are we going to use any chat/irc/whatever for organisational purposes or just this thread ?

I was planning on using an IP, and just this thread, assuming no one else wants to host.

Yeah Asphodel has a direct border to to yomi, I had to move my troops to position in mountains so it took forever.
The good news is other then Asphodel killing a few of my giants when we went for the same province is that I haven't had an casualties.
Shouldn't of tried to bargain to attack me.

Depends on players, if someone is playing water and 3 land we could do silent seas.
If we get 3 players and 1 is water Talis is great for balance.
There is also private caverns for land nations.

For mods add ME just for shits and gigs.
And of course Worthy Heroes.

Well the time is fast approaching. Let's go ahead and call nations. I call LA Bogarus.

Oy Vey I'll be gath.

I might play, has anyone actually set up a server yet, it doesn't look like it.

I think I'll be Abysia or Xibalba this time if we're playing LA

LA Abysia aka. what happens when you racemix.
How do they even stick the lava dicks into humans, magic.

I'll host at 3 pm

OK, I just tested hosting so that isn't a problem. Any other opinions on ?
Looks like all of us are above ground land nations.


You two decide amongst yourselves who gets abysia

Also, is magic enhanced #1 something everyone is OK with and #2 1.2 the latest?

summod and me aren't compatible its one or the other.

Well I have no preference. Which should I use?

ME and yes 1.2 is most recent.

OK, I will host momentarily. Any desired settings?

The game is hosted
IP 104.57.154.230
Port 1024

It werks

Abysia has connected.
Throne setup right now is 10 to win, 4/2/1 of 1/2/3 level thrones, adding up to 11 points total.
Should I change this?

well shit I guess I have to be someone else then, I wanted to be Abysia more than Xibalba

connecting in a sec

If the map is small might as well go full conquer.
Make it 3 level 1 and 3 level 2.
With chocolate thrones level 1 thrones can be Op.

Waiting on the fourth person to connect.

Play Ragha

Went with Patala, brb will do my turn in a sec

The game has started

Staring at a green screen for now.

That's weird, me and gath have already done our turns. Try reconnecting.

I got a packet error, did you use a randomly generated map?

No, I used indiedb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/private-caverns-421

Ok well I downloaded it, I wish you posted that before lol. I think it will work better now

Maybe we need to have the map on our end ? It didn’t' work for me after reconnecting.

Yes, you need the map on your end.
Sorry for not announcing it, is the only real post discussing the map so I assumed everyone else noticed it.

Oh I see well I got it now, and Ive done my turn.

Just waiting on abysia.

I'm still stuck after choosing my nation, it doest load in.
There was a "your date …." message for a moment didn't manage to read it.

Do you have choc thrones, ME, and worthy heroes?

Make sure you have the proper mods and map.

New Wizards turn while we wait on Abyssia

Maybe it hates linux in direct connect, i can try switching.

I dunno, never played blitz on linux, only PBEM.

Abyssia still having troubles then? I'll brb then getting a quick snack and brewing some tea.

Im glad we actually got to start blitzing

Yeah, i moved to other OS and i'm installing dom4 here, fortunately it's really small. Maybe it will solve it.

Holy shit does it take you 10 minutes to reboot?

Holy shit I forgot to recruit a commander on turn 1

A bit less.
I'm in now.
Sorry for delay, seems "crossplatform" doesn't actually work.
It's fine for PBEM since it generates the same turn files but it seems it treats it as a different version or something in direct connection.

there he got it done. lets keeper going boyos

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Hurry the fuck up gath

Well sorry abysia was taking so long I started counting my shekels

No hard feelings Bogarus

Man Bogus and his friends are being punks, usually I just flatten them with elephants but it's not working out this time

Lies and slander

Abysia maybe choose to attack the nation that doesn't have naturally fire resistant troops.

Kek, killing your dragon with blood vengeance chaff

To be fair he was caught between you and me, he'd either have to fight your fire resistant guys, or me casting rain.

Bogarus

youtu.be/QvCspS2-cKo?t=17
SHIP THOSE NIGGERS BACK

I for one definitely want to make this a regular thing.
Being able to figure out how something works in a day instead of a month is great.

Yeah, definitely a good testing ground. Would be nice if we got more players though, would probably take multiple session to finish though. we are playing for a couple hours but it's not really looking like it's going to end very soon.

Yeah
I guess our options are
#1 Set a cutoff time and continue next week
#2 Set a cutoff time and if this is even possible transfer to PBEM
#3 Set a cutoff time and declare a winner based on points held or some shit
#4 play all night
What do you guys think?

Play all night what are you guys some type of faggots with a social life?

whomever is acting as the server needs to make sure that window stays open. If you quit the dominions game with the server then we wont be able to play again I don't think

Atleast thats how it worked out for me, but I haven't blitzed much, anyway I'm getting kind of tired of Dominions right now so I'd like to stop soon

You can remake a game. You have to go to setup game and when asked to enter the name type in existing one, instead of giving you an error or overwriting the save it should resume it.

Yeah I can just leave the client running. I'll just have to make sure that it isn't using steam, as I have intense autism. So when's the cutoff for active play?

How about 30 minutes?

youtube.com/watch?v=_rcmeMxxGYw
Bogarus national anthem

I feel ya m8, at this point it's just getting testing shit out.


Yeah that works

OK, at 8 the server will go down for a bit, then it should be up indefinitely for the duration of the game for you to join and play at your leisure.

Here you go Bogarus, parting is such sweet sorrow.

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Was there some salt ? I was considering going AI myself and let you two fight it out. Seems the game is done than really, shame it kinda went out with a whimper.

Well I lost pretty handily, with essentially no sizeable forces and two large armies in the middle of my land, I went AI because there was zero reason not to.

Yeah, that made sense, myself I was still going despite losses to possibly get some experimenting done, but patala suddenly went AI even though he was doing well, it looked like he got into an argument with the jews or something.
I mean with 4 players on a relatively small map someone would have ended up eliminated sooner than later.

Well I guess I win the blitz game as everyone else went AI.
Weird because I wasn't in the best position and could of easily been taken out.

New wizard turn, by the way. Looks like nobody bothered to send peeps for deathmatch lmao.

Couldn't spare a commander for death match

It was deleted

I would have joined but had to go to an appointment at the Dentist's office. Congrats on the win though user

I got pissed off because Gath called me a bully when Bogarus went AI.

Bogarus you were doing fine, when you were doing your Thunder Strike communions; I thought you'd eventually drive me back since everyone was fighting me at the same time


I was hoping you and Abysia would play but I guess that didn't happen

So i DLd this game and have played a couple of rounds. Beyond the starting phase does it always evolve into a clusterfuck of recruiting units in provinces & commanders/mages .

surprise me. I like surprises. you know the moment you land on one of my forts you'll lose commanders to seduction. you also know that chaff is replaceable. I still have my forces scattered, you've been forced into putting the majority of your army into a big stack. what do think the back half of my nation has been doing while my raiders have been doing their thing?

I'm playing russian finns, so I'm gonna shitpost like a 400lbs hacker. I guarantee that at least half of my claims are true. theatricality and deception.


there's that paranoia and bluster again. I get it, giants are big guys. tiny hands though. just_do_it.jpg

yes, you recruit armies and try and destroy the other guys with armies.

the idea is to use your mages to research stuff that gives you a tactical advantage, or to forge magical items to give commanders to stack odds in their favor, or to summon more powerful commanders, soldiers and mages to open up even more tactical and strategic options.

it's like a shitty 4x strategy multiplayer game with a fairly complex magic system and nation themes based on mythology and popular media. so you can have Cthulu fighting Conan the Barbarian, We Wuz Kings, drunk Irish rape-fairies and Zombie Jesus.

multiplayer games can take months to resolve, so it has an appeal for certain types of autists.

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Only if you don't even try to magic.

That's why I need to become the Pantokrator, to cure my diabeetus.

I just discovered a dom4 /monster/ thread
neat

I like you, you're a better banterer than I thought, but regardless of all that I just thought of how to execute you.

I imagine you're quite pale, have you realized that your end will be much more terrifying than Tien Chi's?

That's yomi you're talking to not Gath.
Christ did everyone forget about ID's

You're making me curious user. Does this mean we can have cross board battles?

Holy shit
We should organize that
Maybe like an EA game where we all play as humans vs their monstrous nations.
>>>/monster/212934
There's the thread, but unfortunately the last post was two months ago.

The plagiarized my general.
I feel so flattered.

Are you a bad enough dude to do this >>>/monster/232181 ?

I don't think modding nations is difficult if you can make the sprites and spells have been done too, so it shouldn't be that hard if time consuming. Changing the same and sprites of blood slaves would probably the the most complex things to do.

I posted in that monster thread before, it's a cool idea but I'm already making my own /monster/ themed vidya anyway.

Share
You got an /AGDG/ thread?

I didn't forget id's, I just linked the wrong post because I'm mentally deficient. Mr Smallhands knows who I'm talking about though.


yeah, yeah. you were gonna smash me before, so what's the plan now? smash even harder? how's that workin' out for ya?

pic related

NEW 8WIZARDS TURN

I received turn 8, but the server is still on turn 7?

I hope we can get more for next week's blitz. It was a lot of fun. Should we do a revote for time, or do it again at 3 EST?

Yeah this happens sometimes, I don't know why and how.
I think someone had a work around for it, but its pretty fucked when it happens.

yeah I just noticed that.

I was the last to send in my turns for wizards and middleage Middle Age also flipped back but only needs Vanarus's turn now?

something wierd happened thats for sure, I just tried to send in my 8th turn and got a reply saying I'm wrong.


off topic, but it's a browser mmo I posted about it years ago on /monster/ but I didn't get very far with it then because of time and working on my friends games.

I decided anyway to work on a /monster/ dom mod after all though and will be using the appropriate thread to show off stuff there.

I'm guessing we need to replay/resend turn 7?

NO
Do not do this, this only worsens the problem, it will just end up with us getting turn 9 while Llama is still on turn 8.
I'm asking around for a fix.

HERE'S THE FIX
Request a turn re-send, you will get turn 7 again and will have to do redo it.

Some key things here, DO NOT REDO TURN 7 THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE OR HAVE IN OLD EMAIL MAKE SURE ITS FRESH FROM A RESEND.
DO NO OVERWRITE FILES SERIOUSLY STOP FUCKING DO IT, DELETE ALL OLD FILES THEN MOVE NEW TURNS INTO THE FILE, THIS IS PROBABLY THE REASON ITS HAPPENING.

We will all have to redo turn 7, so please lets not have someone take 18 hours to send in a turn they did yesterday.

Wew, something is fucking screwy, the game just rolled back to what it was last night, Y's is the last one now and the hosting date is the same as yesterday, Y's get your turn in so you don't stall.

Is Llama having problems now?

lmao, so my turn is already in.

Just the Disciples game, it sent turn 8 to everyone but stayed at turn 7 so everything go sent back when people sent in their turn, but after people requested a turn resend the match rerolled to a previous turn where everyone had sent in their turn other then Y's.

And, if he doesn't get his turn in the next hour he will stall.

Oh it reset huh, ok Im sending in turn 7 again. one moment please

it shows all files as received again. and I got confirmation my turn was accepted.

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How….
Unfortunate
Nothing but smooth sailing for us!

So I decided to play some Ermor and this is the first time I've actually had a game go my way.

This is the second attempt I've made to attack this province, the first ending in me losing some 300+ troops and a named general to the enemy priests, albeit I did take his god down with my hordes.

This time I came more prepared. He has approximately 500 troops ready, I have around (or more) 800. I think I outclass his as well.

Should I attack or bring in more spooky hordes?

I noticed other people were having llamaserver issues as well. I sent in my turn last night for middleagedm8s, have the receipt e-mail too. but now it's still outstanding for some reason.

ffs. I'll have to double check everything.

wait, now it's saying Shinuyama is hasn't submitted their turn? wtf?

our shitposting broke llamaserver? are you happy now?

Ermor's big strength is numbers. Think zombie horde. You'll probably win, but more guys wont hurt. Depends on the quality of those 500 troops. If they're soulless zombies, you have the advantage.

I think burden of stones would be devastating as Ermor, since it just takes forever to cut through all that shit.
Maybe worth making a pretender around.

Dont forget to research Antimagic

I'm really new to dom4, I still don't even have a habit of checking the individual unit's stats, let alone plan a strategy around a spell.

I usually go for death/earth so I can summon spookies and then equip said spookies with good gear, but then again, how important is gear on commanders?

Well it depends, usually for commanders you want to keep them in the back and let the armies do the fighting unless your commander has special attributes.


There are Five types of commanders, Mages, Thugs, Leaders, Super Combatant(SC) and Assasins.

Mages you'll want to make magic boosters for or give them things that help their spell effectiveness.

Leaders you don't usually need to give gear, except for Supply bonuses, or Leadership bonuses, if you have the ability too giving them magic weapons with a single spell helps a lot.

Thugs are the main line fighters, and are usually given high defensive equipment and a good magic sword to help them fight off multiple enemies or take provinces by themselves.

Super Combatants are mages geared as a Thug that can self buff themselves in such a way they can destroy entire armies. Usually have awe/high fear values.

Assasins are usually geared to improve their stealth, or given gear to summon reinforcements during Assasination attempts (which is really the most effective way, because later on mages can always defend themselves in some manner from Assasins)

Depends on what you want them to do.
People sleep on helmet of heroes, horn of valor and sunlight spear.
All together they can give a commander morale bonus of 4! Which is fantastic as it will make low morale troops actually usable.

You can get equipment that also does battlefield effects like two uniques where one causes a storm every battle which nullifies most flyers, makes fire spells harder to cast, missile weapons less accurate and increases the effect of most air spells.

Earth is pretty underwhelming for magic equipment, it has some of the best boosters to increase magic of certain types but other then plain armor or boots of stone or ironface doesn't have much else.

Key items for commanders that you want to thug.
Gives fear +5, which is huge, no one really knows how fear works not even the devs, but it works well as most enemies will flee taking losses to a fear unit.
VINE SHIELD
I was ignorant of the need for this item for multiplayer, it wasn't until Niefelnigger's thug held off 300+ elite soldiers with regen, cold aura, and a vineshield ALL WHILE ROUTING himself causing my army to route after taking too long.
Generic magical sword, the reason you need them is they damage ethereal and have aoe damage which pops glamour something elves have and helps with dealing with cheap chaff.
These all give reinvig, which prevents exhaustion which is something that mages and fighters need to worry about.
They are especially useful communions as the communion master wearing a reinvig item will pass it on to others as well.

Other then that there are items which give temp gems (gems only usable in battle) which help massively, magic boosters which give you an alternative vs empowering, and items which are useful for assasinations or bodygaurding from assassinations like acorn necklace, or water bottle.

mages want +penetration items if they are casting important spells that can be resisted, as it skews the odds in the mages favor. good for stuff that outright kill or charms the enemy, but handy for other magic too.

thugs generally want area of effect items and good protection items. something like a frost brand or snake bladder stick hits multiple squares at once. fear effects are AoE, but take time to work. defenses like awe, glamour, etherealness or vine shield make them harder to hit.

sometimes you want to make thugs to kill other thugs, so multiple attacks, armor negating weapons and shit that can cause afflictions or horror marks are good.

for specific threats, you make specific solutions. if you're getting hit by golems, make a Smasher or 3. Undead or demons, then make holy weapons to take them out.

Just need boots of quickness and jade armor.

3 misc slots. you probably want a magic resist item in one of them.

I'm keeping what else I'm going to add secret, but quickness is sure going on this nigga.

Too bad I don't have a w9 bless I could get upwards of 26 attacks in a single tick.

I don't think quickness stacks though, though I haven't actually tried putting jade armor and boots on a single commander.

bless quickness is diffrent then item quickness, and you might be right about item quickness.
But bless quickness is 1.5 attacks, spell quickness or item quickness is 2 but they operate independently so you can stack them fro what I understand.

NEW 8WIZARDS TURN

item quickness won't stack. go with rainbow mail or that blood armor instead, for the +mr, or something like shademail and turn him into an assassin with a black heart. demons don't care about fatigue in combat, I think.

I'm quite new but will join in.
As for the time I don't really care.
[spoiler] I've played about 10 rounds, a few with friends but we kind of ignored one another and kept to killing AI opponents, because I was happy they wanted to play something as autistic as dominions and didn't want to stump them.
tl;dr I know how to play but do really inefficient shit and know barely any working combinations/spells [/spoiler]

Fucking spoilers kill me now.

He's got 4 encumbrance, so fatigue matters for him.

Join the blitz so we can bully you for those spoilers.

Damn, you're really new.

Here's how you spoiler:
like this

Trial by fire.
The only winning move is to lose repeatedly.
t. has had my ass kicked miserably in every 8ch game so far.
When I beat you monkey niggers in the blitz in that one minor battle, that was the only actual battle I have won multiplayer, ever.

It's still a lot of fun.

Earth is probably in the top 3 for magic items, easy access to their artifacts, Smashers, Elves Bane, not to mention great plate armour.

You also forgot Crystal Shields, which is perhaps the single most important, most universal mage item EVER

Flying shards. Fucking flying shards shreds armies. MA Ulm is just fun for that reason alone.

I prefer Gifts from Heaven myself as everyone who played the Blitz found out.

And you forgot about dwarven hammers.
Earth also gets the best battle booster spell, since it comes with reinvig.


Blade wind is also fun, but the real best part of earth evocations are the fire crosspaths that let you drop volcanoes on people.
Earth summons are also fun, clockwork horrors do a nice alpha strike, and crushers are godlike at blocking the gates in a siege.

I know undead and inanimates don't care about fatigue. They still go to sleep at 100+, but they don't take combat penalties. Can't remember if demons use the same rules.

Undead and inanimates don't take combat fatigue because they have 0 encumbrance, unlike Kenshiro back there.

0 encumbrance for combat, spellcasting encumbrance still applies.

Not me as you went Ai before I even got a chance to kill ya.

I blew you up that one time and flatlined like 50 of your sacreds after I stacked my magic resistance so high Blood Vengeance wouldn't proc

Don't remember that, abysia took out quite a few.

Are you talking zealots?

Nah when I was fighting Bogarus you had taken my farmland, and then I tried to take it back with Shamblers and failed while you had a huge amount of troops in the province to the right of it, I had assumed you were building a fort there so after I knocked the wind out of Bogarus again I attacked you there and had 4 guys spamming meteors.

You had both Zealots and Gibbors in that fight, as well as Gittite soldiers and the Str Kohen.

later on you tried to go around the sea through Abyssia's land while he was fighting me, and you had some Gibbors then as well with your prophet that got nuked with GoH by 10 or so of my casters.

Anyway If I stayed around I have no doubts I would had blown you up hard because by that point I had like 20 Naga Rishis, and the Nagini's all ready to throw meteors, and then paralyze spam from the Yogi's

Also looks like it's time for a new thread this one seems to be sinking

Yeah you went Ai though, I think you greatly overestimate your own ability if you are arguing you would of won a game when there is already a victor.