Novideo adds spying in latest drivers

majorgeeks.com/news/story/nvidia_adds_telemetry_to_latest_drivers_heres_how_to_disable_it.html

reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/5b9hdo/nvidia_adds_telemetry_to_latest_drivers_heres_how/

"TL;DR: Nvidia may collect your name, address, email, phone number, IP address, and non traditional identifiers and share this information with business partners, resellers, affiliates, service providers, consulting partners, and others. This information is combined with typical browsing and cookie data and used by Nvidia itself or advertising networks."

"CanardPC Hardware discovered that as of driver 368.25, Nvidia was collecting your information and transmitting it (without encryption) if you had Geforce Experience installed. It looks like there have been some changes since then, now all users have the NvTmMon process, and if you are using Geforce Experience 3 Nvidia has your email address or facebook account in addition."

"t looks like if you are using GFE3, software usage and browsing and cookie data will be tied to your identity"

post yfw you didn't fall for the nvidia meme

Other urls found in this thread:

pcworld.com/article/2993272/software-games/nvidia-plans-to-lock-game-ready-drivers-behind-geforce-experience-registration.html
cs.columbia.edu/~mikepo/papers/gpukeylogger.eurosec13.pdf
pcworld.com/article/2921092/gpu-malware-can-also-affect-windows-pcs-possibly-macs.html
hackread.com/anonymous-malware-nvidia-mac-linux-windows/
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1742287615000559
twitter.com/AnonBabble

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Every time I want to go NVIDIA, they do something that pisses me off.

windows only?

ganoo+loonix wins again

Money-making methods that used to be restricted to free software, free to play games and free services are becoming increasingly normal for software and hardware that you pay for. Gotta extract every last shekel you possibly can (and why not, since people will always accept it).

Graphics card is dying so will probably buy amd next time.

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So PC master race?

Why do you have 1.5 TB of pictures of your own dick?

In case they seize his harddrive and start to go through all the files for evidence.

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How retarded do you have to be to buy NVIDIA?

???

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Next PC I build will have only integrated graphics. Good enough for everything I play anyway.

This is only if you have GeForce Experience right? Good thing I deleted that shit ASAP.

The fucking state of it all. A simple software update for a graphics card now has to chronicle all your details.

Which is both optional and a stupid thing to install. Still, sucks for those that do, I guess.

It really shows you how fucking important and valuable customer information is in this day and age. I fear we're actually going to approach 1984 levels at some point.

Maybe I'll do the same (though not because of this Nvidia thing). By the time I get a new system (5-10 years from now) I expect integrated graphics will be good enough to run whatever I need to.

Can I see your cock, user?

how the hell are you going to play iidx, stepmania and dariusburst?

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What idiot would install this Geforce Experience crap anyway?
Just installed latest drivers and checked, no telemetry bullshit anywhere.
ITT: Idiots who can't uncheck some boxes when installing software.
Image related.

user your games are slowing down the computer

I updated to the latest drivers to check. Haven't had Geforce Experience installed since they started requiring an account. Sure enough the telemetry entries are there.

what boxes did you uncheck while installing specifically?

Found the NVIDIOT

pcworld.com/article/2993272/software-games/nvidia-plans-to-lock-game-ready-drivers-behind-geforce-experience-registration.html

Interesting.
I unchecked everything except the graphics driver and the audio driver.
I don't even need the latter.
Two questions:
- Did you reboot? I didn't.
- Did you have GExperience installed at any time? I didn't.
Maybe you have to clear that first and do a fresh install?


Meh, idiotic, but won't be a problem.
I don't need their weekly "+2% fps on the newest AAA garbage you don't play anyway" updates.

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What about it?

customers are nothing but cattle

I'm not disputing the entries indicated by Autoruns. I'm saying there is no reason yet to believe that telemetry service is scooping up your SSN, shopping habits, and passwords.

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Any telemetry that they aren't open and upfront about is inherently bad.


Only thing I unchecked was the Experience option. I didn't reboot after the update and rebooting changed nothing. Like I said I had Geforce Experience installed before they added the account shit back in September. I guess it could be leftovers from that. The timestamp on the entry is 12th of October though which is well after the account update but obviously before these recent driver updates. I don't know what the fuck is going on.

neo-neo/v/ was a mistake

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP FAM

PSA: be careful when you install your GPU drivers from the jewVidia website. They're bundling in their Experience shit.

I hate to bring reality into this but when cops 'investigate' it's plugging in a USB drive to boot a special automated tool that does a quick scan of every picture and video on your computer compared to a md5 hash database of known CP files. You could have 1488 terabytes of pictures and they'll never lay eyes on a single one.

I've seen someone go through the process, when they confiscated his computer as evidence they left external hard drives on his desk not knowing what they were. They put the smallest amount of effort in doing police work as 99% of people spill their guts in interrogation.

I know Hollywood and tv shows portrays them as being incredibly competent and driven but that's a crock of shit. The writers for those shows are tech experts compared to real cops.

The trick here is not to have anything illegal at all so you can't confess in interrogation.

Actually friend there are no boxes to uncheck anymore. I was foolish enough to use the "quick install (recommended)" button.

What jewVidia is doing is really sneaky. Reminds me of all those bundled software malware shit.

Is it still possible to install just the drives alone without any of the Experience bullshit?

You really fucked up there.

So what? This shouldn't give them any additional rights for further surveillance, not to mention why should the Government have the right to classify their files as Top Secret and other stuff when they want to know every nigger what sort of sock they have changed in the morning.

You're a fucking retard.


Yes.

Notice something?

I uninstalled that garbage the second it asked me for an account and then immediately started scanning my harddrives for games without even asking.

I'm on driver version 375.70 and there's no sign of that process, only thing i unchecked when installing the driver was geforce experience.
The new geforce experience is pure fucking cancer and pulls the same shit mobile apps do where it asks you to link it to your other accounts so they can datamine you, fuck that.

This is a good point. Companies generally prefer not to do anything they can get sued for. You'll have to fine comb the jewVidia EULA. It spells out what they consider "telemetry".

Also jewVidia has European privacy laws to consider. It is easy to go into paranoid mode because Experience is such a black box. When you run wireshark you see all those outbound connections to mysterious IPs. What does it do?!

This is actually a pretty good question. Why the fuck am I connecting to 169.55.70.175? Its just a . here.

I don't.

The only benefit of GFE is Shadowplay & you can just use OBS with the same GPU-driven video encoder (NVENC). The people affected by this are largely normalfags who do quick installation without looking at anything being installed. Similar to moms & grandmas who install tons of fucking bloatware in the same manner by paying no attention to anything that is bundled but instead leaving every box checked.

If you're paranoid just use PeerBlock. It's like blocking IPs in the host file without all the clutter.
You can get a bunch of IP lists for Spyware, Governments, Microsoft, Google, etc. & block tons of nosy motherfuckers.

Although, if you're a good goy who uses Steam you'll have to unblock Valve or Steam won't work.

A good thing that I don't play new games that need new drivers. I haven't updated mine for a year.

not plebbit

I'm on the installer but I can't find anything. Its a list I can import, I suppose?
Why would I want to block Educational institutions and universities? Am I missing something?

But can you give me at least 62 reasons not to believe it?

So I should never use nvidia again?
So if I buy a laptop in say 5 years, I should buy a non-intel non-nvidia non-windows non-botnet laptop?
How do I do that?

Meanwhile, AMD embraced open source drivers and they get better with every update.

If you do that its probably a miracle honestly.
I think we have better chances of freeing ourselves form all this anti-privacy bullshit by killing Google Managers than finding a combination of software and Hardware that
1.Respects Privacy
2.Works

Because at this point hardly anyone is making it. I could change my OS and hardware but I'd still have to deal with shit like my year old proprietary BIOS, which I have no idea how to replace.

gone nvidia for the first time coz friend shilled 660ti, needless to say, never ever again

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ISHYGDDT

Is there any hardware/software company not trying to destroy their own market?

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>oh no the jews have my ip address fucking day of the rope when??

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But of course you're an shill so its better throw that information somewhere people can't see.

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Bravo, then you admit that you have installed GFEXP and filled in these text boxes by yourself in sane mind, right?

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THE MADMAN ACTUALLY HAS IT INSTALLED!

Hehe, GOOD ONE

No I haven't, I'm just calling you out for being a shill by trying to hide the actual problem.
And now by trying to discredit your opposition as stupid.

Here, I'll make a deal with you: If you fuck off this thread right now and never return, I'll update my drivers to the lastest version (without that fancy garbage). Deal?

Do you realize that you agree with their terms by installing Geforce Experience right away? There's nothing evil in market search from consumers. Most of them are idiots anyway, or just busy to read terms of use. Just don't install GFEXP and that's it.

They're not destorying anything. They're just abusing the oligopoly they have.

What a surprise, I don't have any of that shit because I don't install Geforce Experience like a fucking casual.

i was going to buy a 1070 during the black friday, but I will wait for the 490 because of this
fuck nvidia

Same here. I'm building a new rig next year. I know every modern CPU is a backdoor to letter soup agencies already and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, but I'm not going to stand idle why this fuckers make things worse.
I'm not sure if I will get AMD or Intel of Israel for the CPU, we will know within the first couple of months of 2017.

Let's just hope AMD doesn't drop the ball with the 490x.

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HOLY SHIT GUYS NVIDIA IS OVER, AMD M'RITE?

Run wireshark
WTF is that IP?!
Google fu: oh it's my motherboard

I live in a free country and I block all advertising anyway so it doesn't really matter in the end but it is still disconcerting.

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1st: That's not how greentext works.
2nd: AMD shill detected.

lel

To believe for certain, sure. But if there is a chance it is then you shouldn't be sitting on your hands, because there is no evidence that it isn't doing all that either.

so not US or EU, then

It's a principle matter. Not only because they spy, but because they are already charging me several hundred of bucks for the product and they intend to profit from my information too. It's fucking bullshit. On top of that, they could eventually hand over that information to the authorities and fuck me over due to pirated software. The later is not that likely to happen, but I'm not taking more risks than I need to. Fuck Nvidia.

Will selectively disabling all of the Nvidia services crap in system config stop it?

Except the display driver, obviously

Think really hard about it user, what could've gone wrong?

Free enough to buy my Japanese games and porn. That's all I ever asked for.
I'm a simple man with simple degenerate tastes.

My guess is that it will take nVidia burning their house down to snap them out of it.

i didn t update my driver for a long time (i dont play new triple A game)

well i guess i wont be downloading it anytime soon

I get that you don't have this telemetry shit if you don't install geforce experience but I really want to be able to use shadowplay.

yea .
yeeeass… shadow .. play … do it…

Shadowplay is one of the things Nvidia did right. It actually works well enough in most cases, with some few games having artifacts and other issues while usually having good performance most of the time.

The first article in the OP shows exactly how to disable it. Easy as piss.

It's really easy to use say compared to OBS. It also has minimal impact on FPS. I don't even notice any performance drop when it's recording.

I just uninstalled geforce experience, the only reason I had it installed was for shadowplay.

THIS IS GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR TOM YOU REALLY MADE THE GRADE

That works too, GE is a piece of shit anyway.

TL;DR if you use GeForce experience you're a faggot (and that's been true for a while). Is this correct?

Yeah I'm going to give OBS a try, that interface though. Way too many options I don't know what the fuck a MPEG bitrate is I just want to press buttan thing happan.

It didn't know that Nvidia was the only GPU brand available.
Isn't it the brand of CPU that makes a difference, not GPU? You know, since AMD currently lacks hyper-threading

I guess, I'll go AMD. Actually I think I might need an entire new computer.

PS2 emulators tend to work better on Nvidia, but with a good enough GPU, the brand doesn't matter much.

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So it's a GeForced experience after all.

And we might need to use GF experience to update the drivers in the future. Not to mention shadowplay already relies on that shit to function.

So in other words you're just a fucking retard. You are what's wrong with society.

you are clearly not from here, get out

Nigger, I've been here since the first exodus.

He is right though, that's not how greentext works.

No? None here.

Same here. That's because I haven't updated in a long while, though. Seems like I won't be updating for another long while either.

This wouldn't be happening if you were running open-source AMD drivers with a non-Wangblows OS.

I suppose it's a win if there's no reason to have a high power graphics card since there are no games to play.

Nvidia SpyWorksâ„¢ technology combined with certified EVGA products ensure a fast response time from your local fire department for when the card inevitably catches fire.

and what makes you think amd won't do the same thing??

Is Experience even available for Guhnoo Slash Lynacks?

what is this, lads?

wtf I love AMD now

Fuck me, that is literally the whole reason why I do it. Well, better delete all those pictures.

holy shit im so glad the computer was my sole responsibility and interest. i would not be able to handle that kind of bullocks

People still fall for the old toolbar routine?

Please kill yourself.

If you used it you're fucking retarded and deserved this.

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$ screenfetch -nd 'gpu' GPU: Gallium 0.4 on AMD JUNIPER (DRM 2.46.0 / 4.8.5-2-MANJARO, LLVM 3.9.0)$
Feels good.

nvidiot spotted.

Man, this shit is annoying, why can't everything fuck off and I can just play videogames.
Thankfully I still haven't built my new pc yet and I'm still
Using an unbranded laptop with nonstandard parts
What's a good AMD card for when I buy parts on cyber monday?

how do you get an unbranded laptop?

An RX480. Don't get a reference card/blower cooler unless you want your PC to sound like a jet engine.

I got it from some shop in france in 2011. Doesn't have any brand markings, Doesn't have AMD or NVIDIA chips, it doesn't report RAM to the operating system and occasionally the Harddrive max space changes but usually sticks around 500gb.
I'm scared to open it

how does it know a file is picture or video if I changed the file extension on anything that looked even remotely questionable? checkmate LE

Or you could just put them all in an encrypted file container.

if it just looks for md5's then you could put them in a fucking .zip and face no concequence.

And you trust that laptop? You figure it's better to report back to some french motherfucker rather than to a multimillion company?

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Well all you'd really need to do is change the size in photoshop to fuck this program.
CP is found in the act of acquiring and giving, it's not searched for on a harddrive.

It's not increasing my network traffic according to my router through testing.

Okay, what's a good amd gpu that uses a 6pin power connector?

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Just kill me.

user… where have you been? It's been almost two years.

I'm a blind retard.

yeah but if you're looking to spend $600-800 on a 1377 gfx card Nvidia is pretty much your only choice

I've had a GTX760 for a couple years now and ever since the 3.5Gb news and AMD getting their shit together on Linux I've regretted my decision too. The worst part is that I have no intention of upgrading for quite awhile since I don't play any games that actually push this thing.

If the police takes your computer away they're already aware that you are a pedo.
At that point only encryption can keep you safe, but don't kid yourself: cyber forensics are pretty good.

No the real problem with catching pedos is police capacity. The general public thinks that downloading a few pictures means that SWAT busts in your door the next day but if you keep a low profile chances are nothing will happen. Police goes after active threats first.

Well, I guess that's decided.

Welp I guess I'm never gonna buy nividia or intel shit again

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you could just losslessly recompress the image and get away with your CP
have fun with collisions
Also like says if the ice cream dudes are knocking on your door you're already fucked anyway

App has been shorthand for Application since the 80s, kiddo.

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NONE of the current lineup of "Ultrabooks" use AMD except for lower-end Apple shit and even then it only uses an AMD GPU coupled with an Intel m series.

AMD is dead as far as the high-performance sector goes. They've become relegated to consoles and lower-end computing. They fucked up bad. Really fucking bad. Intel and Nvidia are both starting to produce shit with better performance per dollar at this point. How does a company fuck up this fucking badly?

No wonder they make so many of these shill threads.

And here's the thing; I used to like AMD. But I simply couldn't defend them anymore as the years went on. There's making yourself to be a more affordable alternative. And then there's just downright making terrible processors, there's selling off your chip fab, there's putting NOTHING into R&D while Intel dumps billions every year and it shows. I stopped giving a fuck about AMD after I saw how abysmal their lower end E-series was compared to Intel Atoms. Their E series can't even run fanless AND it performs worse than corresponding Atom chips. Its fucking embarrassing

user i have some news for you

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wew lad i bet you r/buildapc fags actually paid for win10 too huh?

That sounds fucking stupid and incompetent.

I have a GTX 660, it's done good, but I'm not staying with nvidia. Next card will be Vega 10

No, it doesn't matter if you're running geforce experience or not.

Check what's running, if you see NvTmMon, you have the nvidia spyware.

you're a faggot and you're only on this because of memes, nvidia has been doing the "2 different memory pools with different speeds" for probably longer than you've been born, at least you're on the right side now but kill yourself

Maybe console gaming is more your thing, user.

Yes, just get the driver from the website, untick anything about Nvidia experience in the installation options. You should do this anyway, the gameready drivers are rushed as fuck and have caused serious issues in the past.
Game ready drivers are bullshit anyway, you're jumping through hoops and giving personal information away because AAA game devs sell broken, unoptimized console ports, and they want Nvidia drivers to work around the fuckups they won't patch for a few months.

Modern AAA games aren't worth playing anyway, so there's usually no rush to update.

Drivers don't just affect games. What if there is a driver that conflicts with ffdshow or h.264 encoding, or is causing a problem with your browser, and the latest driver fixes it, but the only way to download the driver is to give out your fucking personal info?

pirate drivers :^)

Auntie >>>Holla Forums, with some old news:
cs.columbia.edu/~mikepo/papers/gpukeylogger.eurosec13.pdf
pcworld.com/article/2921092/gpu-malware-can-also-affect-windows-pcs-possibly-macs.html
hackread.com/anonymous-malware-nvidia-mac-linux-windows/
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1742287615000559

Have fun >>>Holla Forums !

How do I delete my GeForce account and can I salvage my PC and email somehow. What are alternatives PC parts I don't want anything mainstream now, fuck all of this.

You tell them, fellow anonymous user. I, too, am thoroughly satisfied with my Xeon Phi and Tesla K80 based Ultrabook.

Yeah I'm a shill. Because otherwise I would totally be purchasing all of AMDs "superior" products

Said no one for the past 10 fucking years

Don't you know user if every one of your posts isn't shitting on something you're a shill and even if they are then you're a shill for the other side. On v you're always a shill.

What's amazing in all of that is how they turned GFE that was a competent piece of software (and had Shadowplay that just worked) into this abomination. The overlay is ass, logging into an account to take videos is stupid, and then they start logging some shit data probably just to only optimize popular games on popular GPUs and drop driver level optimization for the rest just to save a few bucks in engineering.

And what's sad is that until AMD releases some GPUs that don't suck balls that's the best.

Protip; Geforce Experience is optional. You don't need it to have the latest nvidia drivers on Windows. And the driver optimization rot shit is a meme started by AMD users. I can grab the latest nvidia drivers for my ancient ass GT 430 and my framerate isn't going to somehow drop with it. That scenario just makes no sense, its completely ludicrous.

I`l murky the water a little bit, there is likely a point where the driver team is told that supporting that particular model isn't worth it due to market share/economics.

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Yeah there is no reason to have gfe tbh

I had it installed for the shadowplay recording, but all the bullshit that needed to be enabled for it to work was not worth the benefit. Just use an alternative

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oh god how do i uninstall this virus?

>nothing works because the industry purposely code games to not work as well with their products

Fixed it for you, or did you fall for the "AMD is shit" meme?

I lived it

Comes with the driver. If you didn't install geforce experience, then check your services for NvTmon or something like that. It's the nvidia service that's apparently running the spyware.