Was the Wii U a good console?

nobody gives a shit about your opinion m8
It doesn't matter how much trash you enjoy on Wii U, the fact that it didn't even get the latest iteration of CoD despite PS3 and 360 getting it means it had a shit library.

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If you want something actually pathetic about the WiiU try the fact that the PS2 got a release of FIFA 2014 but not the WiiU.

It had genuinely fun games. Mario maker, Splatoon Smash 4

What do you care about video games? You owned a fucking Wii U

This isn't even cuckchan, I don't think it is even reddit at this point. >>>/facebook/ would be a better home

Nice reading comprehension fuck face.

I love that thing. These games really stick out for me. Xenoblade X is my favourite.

There's about 16 games worth on it.
also say Pandora's Tower on virtual console (which is a rare find nowadays).

You have to go back.

yeah, a console that had video games on it and not just Naughty Dog's latest interactive b-movie or the latest over-simplified FPS that somehow still feels like it's behind Golden Eye & Time Splitters and which is flooded online with guys playing under such original names like "420BLAZIT!" and "BNGYURMOM"

if you didn't mean that the Wii U's having a good library depended on whether it had the latest Call of Dude-bro, you wouldn't have mentioned it, retard. Call of Duty is a shitty game. It's barely even a fucking game to begin with. It's the single most cancerous franchise to emerge in recent years and has set game design itself back with its very presence.

The Wii U needed good games. The first party Nintendo titles were uncharacteristically shit. The best ended up being Mario Maker of all things which was nothing new for those of us who play romhacks but I at least had fun with it. Cat Mario was the worst 3D Mario yet and The Zelda from E3 never even showed up. Splatoon was only good for the porn, Bayonetta: Unattractive Short Hair Edition was more of the same, W101 was only relevant because everyone was desperate.
My Wii U ended up collecting dust faster than my Wii.

I'm sorry you suck at fighting Japs

Hey on the plus side with WiiU emulation creeping up we might finally get an actual 60fps port of the first one

Was it a success? No, it was a financial failure.
Was it well designed? No, the hardware was crippled by backwards compatibility, it was poorly branded (people thought it was a fucking Wii U accessory), and the gamepad, while comfy, was mostly a gimmick.
Did it have good games? Yes, it had quite a few excellent exclusives, far more than the PS4 or Xbone even today.
Was is the best console of its generation? It depends. Are you a PCfag that wants a console purely for the exclusives? Then yes, the Wii U was a far better choice for exclusives than either of its competitors. Are you a normalfag? Then no, you probably hate Nintendo games, and you would be more happy with a PS4 for CoD and Netflix.

Speak for yourself, W101 was one of my favorite games in the past few years.

It had a few good games but died too fast, also a couple games that should have been system sellers got censored and ruined everything (see XCX). I'm sorta interested in the switch but the wii u dying this fast makes me more than a little hesitant to buy one.

Japs actually kinda sucked at splatoon for some reason.

The hate toward COD and other shit tier fps, comes in part from SJWs who hate everything masculine.

According to the American competitive Splatoon scene, the Japs are leagues beyond them in skill, organization, and civility (unsurprisingly the American scene is full of autistic drama). The main difference in playstyle is that Americans circlejerk over K/D ratios while the Japs focus on map control. For example they rarely use the E-Liter any more because you have to give up so much inking ability for it.

The first year of a console release REALLY is the most important in determining sales and bringing in 3rd party support, hopefully Nintendo has realized this with BoTW coming to the Switch and possibly replicating TP Wii version launch sales.

I remember hearing the Wii U (at launch) was sold at a loss but went into profit as long as one game was purchased with it.

Just because SJWs hate something for a stupid reason doesn't mean it isn't shit or that you have to pretend to like it to spite them.

I'm still upset that no one really used its idea and everyone just dismissed it as a gimmick.

Penny Arcade is still shit.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'll ad this though. I think the biggest problem with the Wii U is that Nintendo underestimated how difficult and time-consuming it would be to create HD assets, and spreading themselves across two platforms with the 3DS and the Wii U led to both systems having a library that was inferior to what had come before. But now they've unified both under the Switch brand (I fully expect a mini-Switch announced within a year of the Switch being released) Nintendo will focus on one common archtecture and will have by far the best exclusives library because of it. If the Wii U had shared the 3DS library but simply at a higher graphical fidelity comparable to the Wii U's visuals, there would have been no contest about which console was the one to own this generation (unless you're a die-hard fanboy for the other consoles).

Nintendo is working on a 3DS successor separate from the Switch last I heard

I was just going by personal experience. Also doesn't surprise me at all that the "official scene" is full of autistic bullshit.

I think the switch is going to attempt to be both the handheld and the console, but they aren't going to admit that until it succeeds so they can fall back on the DS. Kinda like how the DS wasn't suppose to replace the GBA at first.

The tech looks interesting at least but nintendo (both in japan and america) has gone full retard lately so i have no idea what to expect.

Nice trips.
I'm pretty sure the Wii U was always sold at a profit. AFAIK Nintendo has never sold anything at a loss.

That's the fault of their retarded branding. They hinted at the capabilities for asymmetric gameplay, while simultaneously calling it the Wii U and emphasizing a return to personal console play of "core games" over local multiplayer casual games.

Agreed as well. I think unifying their teams on one platform, a device with high normalfag appeal no less, will be extremely successful. I worry that it is too big for Japs and will initially do better worldwide than at home, but I also expect them to release a mini-Switch, possibly without the docking or removable controller capabilities, to address that. I'm imagining a GBA SP-like clamshell design to fit a wide screen + controls into a fairly portable and durable package.

My main doubts for the Switch are about the quality of the system software. The Wii U was painfully outdated in this respect, reserving half of the system's RAM (1 out of 2 gigabytes) for the OS yet requiring nearly half a minute to switch between the game and Miiverse. Supposedly the Switch isn't running Android, and NVIDIA has been helping them with the low level design, so I have some hope. System wide messaging and voice chat would be a godsend but will probably never happen because Nintendo is paranoid about their family friendly image.

I strongly doubt that. It would defeat the purpose of this move. They're acting just like with the DS, where they claimed it was a new direction that wouldn't necessarily replace the Game Boy brand until they knew for sure it would be a success.

No, it was a stupid fucking idea to make another gimmick console. Naming it after the fucking wii was another massively stupid fucking idea.

Nintendo got what it deserved. It flew too high on its own bullshit thinking the wii was some kind of brand name people liked or that people wanted more controller gimmicks.

yes I was, but I discovered a mod chip that made my pains go away

is this another case of Holla Forums using buzzwords it doesn't understand?

A gimmick is something that is used to draw in people by making use of a kind of a cheap thrill or fad that is "unique" yet not exactly practical towards its own stated aims and feels more like a carnival sideshow attraction sold to you by a guy with a mustache and striped suit who over exaggerates just how stupendous and magnificent the sight you're going to see really is. In this respect, the original Wii was more of a gimmick console. You had either had games heavy on the motion controls where you could not play the game any other way or games that just occasionally had a "swipe the remote to open the door" but with standard controls for the rest of it and this was because of the very gimmicky nature of the motion controls to begin with where Nintendo was less concerned with how the average developer was going to use such controls for the games they intended to make.

You can't really say the same thing about the Wii U's gamepad, which functioned pretty much like a PS4 controller with an added touchscreen for accessing menus or maps without pausing or could be used like a handheld in case your mom needed the tv to watch her shows. Most Wii U games' use of the gamepad was fairly reasonable and more on par with the way the DS has most often utilized its own touch screen. And unlike the Wii, the Wii U was never marketed in ways like "this is the next revolution in gaming" or "now anyone can be a gamer" or some shit like that. It was actually marketed in a pretty straight forward fashion.

Not really but it had good games and more good games than other systems from this gen, this gen is a joke.

Also the Wonderful 101 is easily this gens best title and it's only on the WiiU, if you haven't played it you've completely missed out.

I hope it gets a port to the Switch, and then I hope it's a success and it gets a sequel.

WiiU has better games than Saturn but less, and Nintendo isn't a failing company like Sega was during the Saturn era.

Companies had the opportunity to spin off a few dev teams and relive the PS2, but they didn't Ubisoft did and they made mountains off it, a gold mine companies just ignored. This current generation is great, games are costing more to make, and companies are selling fewer units.

It was a giant piece of shit, with some fucking awesome games.
Tropical Dong is awesome, MK8 is fun with friends, W101 is the best game this gen, and splatoon beats every shooter out there because I don't have shitty kids screaming in my ear.

Honestly I'm pretty hyped for the switch if only for Nintendoland 2. That game was really fun, it just needed support.

I have one and I really liked it, I thought the gimmick was great (the either playing on TV or as a handheld part, games that required your attention on both screens i liked less), the exclusives as a general were better than the exclusives on competitor consoles and it is a fun machine in general.
That being said, I would never keep it as my only video game machine, it's excellent as a compliment to my PC but it will always be second to it.

It was the console with the most exclusives out of its generation, but when the bar is set as low as "more than 1 exclusive" it's not exactly high praise.

And two of those games are censored.

As an PC player, I borrowed my brother's Wii U on a few occasions. I've sank a lot of hours co-op on Hyrule Warriors with my brother. That, Bayo2 and W101 are the only games I've really played but they were great.
For reference, he also owns a PS4 and I've had no interest in borrowing that since there are no games I want to play. I actually don't think I've ever used it.

FTFY

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Except the PS3 and 360 versions of Black Ops 3 were extremely cut down, having only multiplayer, changing maps to have less objects, and other graphical things changed for them to play on those systems. They were like the Wii versions of CoD, except less fun since the Wii CoDs were just lightgun shooters.

Funny how none of that is true.

Hey asshole
DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT THE WONDERFUL MOTHERFUCKIN 101 YOU FAGGOT

No. /thread

To some number of anons anything short of the completely vanilla status-quo is a gimmick.
Holla Forums is where words and phrases come to die

It was better than Bayonetta 2 just by virtue of not being the same game but now with a disappoiting final boss.

Oh shit, I forgot Bayo 1 is in the Wii U too.

Hang in there PCFags, you will finally be vindicated. You will also be able to play Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Xenoblade Chronicles X uncensored without the hassle of having to deal with homebrewing.

the wii u is just a continuation of nintendo's post-snes legacy. less games than the n64, less than the gc, less than the wii. each one is getting shittier and shittier.

The saturn has literally hundreds of games, maybe even 200 worth playing. The n64? Maybe 60. GC maybe 30. Wii maybe 40 or so, being generous. Wii U? 5? 10?

None of Nintendo's systems has less games than the N64.

Sure I can. It was mostly a gimmick. There, I said it.
Few games made use of it as anything more than an awkward map, much more awkward than the DS/3DS because you have to look down to see it, and its use for taking the game "away from the TV" was crippled by the fact that you couldn't take it very far because the gamepad was simply streaming video from the real hardware in the console. It was a half-baked iteration on ideas that are much better executed with the Switch.

Your argument is basically "you don't know what the word gimmick means because in my opinion the Wii U gamepad wasn't a gimmick."

Wherever you're from that is apparently so much better, please go back to it.

the GC did.

The GC had almost double the amount of games.

It's more a count of good games. The GC had some of nintendo's worst first party titles, the better ones were developed by third party, published by nintendo. The Wii and Wii U also had more pathetic libraries than the n64.

Nintoddler denial thread

As a pc gamer who always buys a console each gen, and hasnt chosen a nintendo console since N64, this gen i assumed id purchase the new xbox.
After seeing the XB1 E3 showcase i said "well nevermind, thats fucked" Then i saw the PS4 showcase and said "holy fuck are they kidding? nintendo has this in the bag"
Then i saw the nintendo showcase and said "WOW, this is even worse than the wii chinese rice beating tool"

i ended up buying a ps4

if nintendo was smart and didnt want yet another gimmick, they could have just came out with a normal console comparable to the power of the xb1 or ps4, a regular controller, and a UI focused around offline gaming. it would have been a market domination. instead we get a fucking massive tablet as a controller. and now the switch is even more in that direction. nintendo is literally retarded.

And you would be completely wrong for reasons which you've chosen to ignore

It is usually the marketing or the individual game design that makes something a gimmick by focusing excessively on one aspect of the hardware at the expense of overall quality. There is nothing inherently gimmicky about the Wii remote or the Wii U gamepad as pieces of hardware themselves because there is not really clear definition or line when/where a piece of hardware is suddenly now "gimmick hardware" or not and if we make the line "it does something different than what X does" then anything new or unique becomes a "gimmick" just for breaking from the status quo. What made the Wii remote more gimmicky than the Wii U gamepad though was the fact that many games forced motion controls where they were totally unnecessary and even at times a hindrance to an otherwise simple and accessible gameplay experience and the marketing team was really keen on marketing this particular aspect of their hardware as the main attraction. The Wii remote became less of a natural extension of the hardware's basic functions and more of a contrivance shoehorned in to make the game more superficially "interactive", depending on the game.

Most Wii U games however made at most a minimal or optional use of the Wii U gamepad's functionality, even those games developed by Nintendo, resigning themselves to using it only when deemed necessary, and the marketing of these games focused little on the gamepad as the center of your attention or the crux of the games' experience. Even a game like Splatoon, in which the gamepad is more or less an essential piece, never focused very much on what the gamepad would even do during the course of its marketing. Most Wii U games made a sparing use of the game pad and very rarely did Nintendo try to sell the gamepad as THE reason to buy the console like it tried to sell the Wii remote's motion controls as the reason to get a Wii.

Your argument is basically "it's not a ps4 or Xbox controller, therefore it's a gimmick" while proceeding to point out how the Wii U gamepad was under utilized without demonstrating how this under utilization necessarily qualifies it as a gimmick (when the definition of gimmick actually implies a kind of a over-utilization). It's kind of obvious your definition of "gimmick" is just a synonym for "novelty" as such which you proceed to use to designate the novelties you don't happen to like.

This is based on the assumption that they even could. Nintendo's a Japanese toy company, not a major global producer of new and more powerful consumer technology.

You just described the gamecube, which was the worst selling console of its generation

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Fuck yeah dude, that game is a blast to play with friends.

Only if you count the J-RPG's, most of the good ones of which are available on PS1 or some other platform or remain untranslated.

The Wii U has more first party titles worth playing than the Gamecube. Gamecube only has the slightly better Star Fox game (while also having the worst to compliment it)

The Gamecube was good for multiplats and third party exclusives from developers like Konami, Namco and Capcom, but I would never play Mario Sunshine over Super Mario 3D World.

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I think so. I think it would have been better without the second screen, or if it did what the Switch is doing and make the tablet the primary operation point, but it still had a fair number of games I enjoyed on it. Xenoblade X, Bayonetta/2, Mario 3D World, Wonderful 101, Monster Hunter 3U, Hyrule Warriors, Mario Kart 8, Smash 4, Mario Maker, DKCTF, and my personal favorite, Captain Toad.

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The Saturn was great for arcade ports, shooters, fighters and for those who did enjoy Sega's own franchises like Virtua Fighter, Nights, and others.

It had some acclaimed J-RPG's but at the time, most of these never came to America or Europe. And by now, many of them have been ported to other platforms, usually Sony ones, which helps to further make the Saturn console itself irrelevant.

I love my Saturn still, but at this point, there's only like maybe 30 games still worth getting for it that were never given a proper re-release.

Again with this weak hardware shit, you fucking millenial.

At that time third-party companies where rushing out games and DLCs, this shit defunt most of the publishers. Nintendo was too slow for those business pratices and this is why third-parties cut them off.

Third-parties are still doing this despite WiiU have similar capabilities as Xbox360/PS3 does.

I say it again Nintendo service is too slow for third-party companies including indie developers.

It had some very good games. I don't know if I'd go as far as to call it a good cosole though. It was underpowered. The core gimmick was a total failure, and the library was small, even by Nintendo standards.
I'm still glad I bought one, just to play the handful of great games it did have.

It was a good Nintendo console. It wasn't a good console overall. The only reasons to own it is if you like Nintendo games. Mario Maker, 3D World, Xenoblade, Bayo, W101, Woolly World, Pikmin 3, Smash, etc. But it doesn't matter what the hardware is like, if it has those titles on it it's going to probably be worth playing if you like Nintendo games.

Nintendo has good Ip and good products, but they don't have enough power to make a product any more. Wii U is Nintendo's attempt so sell hardware based entirely on their software, and it proved that they don't have the pull they used to. In the 90s, people would buy shitty Nintendo hardware to play Mario, Metroid, Zelda, etc. Now, that stuff isn't enough to sell hardware, and Wii U proved it.

Nintendo of America's poor choices with handling localization pushed a lot of gamers away, the core market that wouldn't be dumb enough to go "lol Wii U is that a thing for that Wii thing I used to have?" You had casuals who thought it was an accessory for the Wii, hardcore gamers who were pissed about shitty localization of good games. That only left the hardcore Nintendo people excited about it. Which isn't much of a market judging by how Wii U sold. Which is why I say Nintendo IP doesn't have the weight it used to. But I do think things like Pokemon Go and Mario Run are designed to bring the spotlight back on their IP and characters and to help them grow.

Look at Pokemon Go, there's a ton of fags who play it that never played a Pokemon game before Pokemon Go. All Nintendo has to do is tell them they can get a Switch and do a lot more with their pokemon, and they'll move a ton of units. Nintendo knows their IP is weaker than it's ever been right now, and they're trying to fix it.

For nintendo fans? Yes.

For people that want to play more than the same mario, zelda lol, and frozen dong? Not really, at least not at new price.

Name 10 worthwhile Wii U games. The Saturn has over 600 games, I'm guessing the Wii U is not even close to that. From those 600 games, I could name 100 that are worthwhile.

Really, I don't know what Nintendo of America was doing. Considering that the Wii U was a top selling console in Japan where home consoles in general on the decline due to market shift towards mobile phones, handhelds and PC's, it was impressive the Wii U did as well as it did in the Japanese market.

What made the Wii U a failure was mostly its inability to grab a large portion of the North American market, and I think Nintendo of America bears a lot of responsibility for that. Nintendo of Japan marketed the console very well to the Japanese market like they were supposed to. Nintendo of America gave up on their console

They didn't even really get that right though. No F-Zero. Starfox made worse due to lack of control options. Paper Mario stil not real Paper Mario. No Metroid. Little love for more niche franchises like Punch Out or Kid Icarus. No real Animal Crossing. No mainline Kirby. 3D World, while I personally liked it, wasn't the 3D Mario most Nintendo fans wanted.

Captain Toad
Yoshi's Wooly World
Mario Maker
Mario 3D World
Splatoon
Wonderful 101
Deus Ex: Human Revolution–The Director's Cut
Darksiders 2
Bayonetta 1&2
Sm4sh
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
Pikmin 3
Twilight Princess HD
Nintendo Land
Xenoblade Chronicles
Monster Hunter
Mario Kart 8
Hyrule Warriors

just to name a few. And before you fault me for including multiplats, I'm pretty the 600 Saturn games you mentioned weren't all exclusives

So only 1 out of every 6 games released for the Saturn are worth getting. Sounds like the Wii U to me.

My two favorite videogame franchises are Zelda and Metroid.
I actually got a Wii just to get to play Skyward Sword and Other M.
I still play Twilight Princess and Wind Waker on it.
I'll probably get a Nintendo Switch to play Breath of the Wild.

I'm not getting a WiiU.

you poor bastard

Please don't insult an actual good system like the Saturn.

Nintendo is banking on the new generation of fans that eat up the amiibo shit and preorder the switch. Feels bad, man.

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W101, Bayonetta series, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon. I'm just glad these things happened.

Not that user, but at least the Saturn had some of the best versions of multiplats. Bayonetta 1, Deus Ex and Darksiders 2 were all shittier versions (even though Bayo is kinda forgiven just because theirs one more console that can play it decently).

One of the shittiest fucking sequels in recent memory. Get some fucking taste.

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I see you didn't play it. It's nothing like Pikmin.

That's exactly why I'm not getting a WiiU: there are no new Zelda & Metroid games for the WiiU.
They'll probably do with Breath of the Wild what they did with Twilight Princess: concentrate on the new console version so they can sell it on launch and freeze the old console version in order to avoid canibalizing themselves.
I know people who bought a Nintendo 64 just to play Ocarina of Time and who got a GameCube just to get their hands on Metroid Prime. A well made AAA can sell consoles on their own. Meanwhile, these retards keep Retro Studios in a cage making monkey games while big execs believe the Metroid franchise lost its value because Federation Force sold too little (I'm thinking on buying the Gameboy Metroid II but I don't think they'll get the point).

Forgot to mention Metroid Prime Trilogy.

Yeah, I wish I could choose what I like.
I've been playing both games since the '80s so it's not like I have a choice.
I wish I like Bayo & Splatoon, just looking at gameplay vids makes me lose interest.

Did Sega had a bad console?
All consoles have good reviews in retrospective.

In their defense, what is even the point of a console without a gimmick anymore? PCs are generalized enough that gaming on one is a no brainer. There's very little a console can't do that a modem PC can't, outside of exclusives. And at that point you're paying 500+ for one game.

the joke here is I'm not even master race. I grew up with a Game Boy and am trying to cope with the fact that tablets are the future. Not having good action games on the go is gonna fucking suck

Doesn't stop people buying the PS4. A lot of people are scared off by the price and percieved complexities of PC gaming, and will opt for whichever console has the best marketing.

The Wii U was killed by two things in core: a schizophrenic identity and a terrible marketing scheme.

Nintendo didn't know whether to really go back and appeal to "core" gamers or continue to pander to casuals, maybe see if lightning can be bottled twice (Wii). It didn't work, and the end result is that you have "core: gamers thinking the Wii U is basically Wii 2: Tablet Boogaloo (whether this is CORRECT is for another thread), and you have casuals thinking the Wii U is an add-on/peripheral set for the Wii rather than its own console outright, hence the addition of the "Not compatible on Wii systems" line added to later games. The name itself is pretty awful, worse than simply taking a console name and adding a bigger number to the end of it. Its project name would have been a better pick than "Wii U"; it just feels like lazy piggybacking.

And of course, as is the recent trend, Nintendo's advertising has been godawful at best, nonexistent at worst. I still pretty vividly remember the first few commercials for the Nintendo Wii; they're pretty brilliant as far as what Nintendo was trying to communicate what they want the Wii to be for and who it's aimed at. Meanwhile, Wii U commercials? What Wii U commercials?? There is no attempt at communication via advertising anymore, it's Nintendo trying its damnedest to bring back relapsed fans and relying on its current playerbase to the best of its ability, not realizing that the kids want their 2 Mature 4 U CoD shooters and their Five Nights At Freddy's "2spoopy" games. (On the other hand, were there a [email protected]/* */ game where you cycle the CCTV cameras via the Gamepad and do your usual security guard thing, that might have been cool.)

tbh in the 90s we were at an age when we were tripping over good games. Now it's AAA shovelware and hipster indie shit. A good game is a lot more valuable. In the 90s, a console with 10 decent titles would be considered absolute shit. Today, in a world with SJW indies, reboots, and franchises that seem to never die, a console with 10 good games that aren't like everything else is huge.

NoA's butchering of localization and their insistence on keeping Nintendo products targeted only toward kids destroyed Wii U. There are a ton of games that kids won't even understand how to play. What the fuck are they thinking? They market games like Xenoblade to kids? I've played that game way more than I should have and I find there's still shit I'm missing and didn't understand.

Don't forget the censorship and region locking. I probably would have bought one if most of the good games hadn't been butchered one way or another.

Don't forget their retarded decision to tackle dlc with figures that have an rfid chip shoved in there to unlock dlc since it's nintendo and they have to do stupid shit like this.

You're forgetting the allure that shitty movie games ala The Order, Naughty Dog shite and David Cage wankery have on the common man. Throw a bunch of 'It's art, 4 real this time!' games in the mix and you've got yourself a console that a regular consumer of media needs when he has to wait for the next season of GoT (or any other popular tv show for that matter).

You also forget the one worthwhile exclusive that the PS4 holds. You know what I mean, I'm talking all of the Yakuzas.

the gamecube was an underpowered game console for the time with a non-standard controller and had just as much online capability and focus as the xbox except it was worse at it.

it was also a gay purple fucking cube.

But user, for 39.99 you can buy the online add-on so you can play pso2 with the other 9 people that play pso2 on the gamecube~!

The Gamecube was reasonably powerful for it's time. It was more powerful than the PS2.

bloodborne, doax3, estival versus + yakuza. 4 games. its called ps4 for a reason

right, but PS2 dominated that generation because it had like a billion games, xbox and gamecubes graphics were negligibly better. the games were also cheap.

so really xbox was in direct competition with GC which is why it sold terribly. xbox had better online, it had better graphics, and a much better controller. FPSs were also popular at the time so having twin sticks was a must and gamecub had stick+nub and a weird unfamiliar layout.
the weeb/vidya crowd already had a backlog of PS2 games at that time so gamecube was only purchased by nintendo fans.
the people that wanted a new console (mainly casuals that were turned off by the PS2, and dreamcast owners)
so whatre they gonna buy? the gay purple cube made by the gameboy/mario toy company? or the black and green VCR that has better graphics and halo. keep in mind. these are primarily sonic fans that jumped on the dreamcast because "its 128 bits!"

Not really, no. People get really caught up on it not being as disastrous as the other two, as if that makes it okay.

Nah, Saturn had way more quality and variety.

The Master System sucked. If you count addons, 32X was pretty bad too.

It had more than two games, which makes it the best one. But three games isn't enough for anyone sane to waste money on a console. It was trash just as the other two.

ps2 was out and had an established library before GC and XB came out. only those 2 were in direct competition with eachother. ps2 was on its own. the only thing you could argue was that PS2s only competition was the dreamcast.
people often forget it was a staggerd generation. dreamcast came out in the end of 1999, then ps2 came out in early/mid 2000 and there was a drought which boosted hype, especially around xmas. i remember seeing ebay bids shoot up to $700 and go as high as $2000.
then a year later in 2001 GC and XB came out and people were tired of buying new consoles. it was a very bad time for both.

name a single add-on that was good. for any console. ever.

Expansion Pak, I guess?

Gameboy player

In hindsight it isnt a bad console but it certainly isnt a great one either. It brought Nintendo into the HD generation after 6 long years, it was backwards compatible with Wii games, it had free online even though Miiverse doesnt quite fill the void with how barebones it feels compared to PSN, it had some good games like Splatoon, Bayo 2, it doesnt need massive day one patches or game installs, it stands out from everything else instead of trying to be a gimped PC, and playing games on the gamepad is comfy.

But the flaws are numerous. The gamepad has a poor battery life, no analog triggers are annoying, there wasnt a lot of third party support after 2013 which resulted in game droughts, Nintendo did some weird deals (Why botch the Sega 5 with Sonic Boom, olympic games, and wanting a port of Yakuza HD Collection to never be localized instead of Y5), 32gb harddrive is terrible, it was poorly mishandled when there was a lot of potential.

I can't speak too much for Bayonetta 1 or Darksiders 2 because I didn't play them on the other consoles, but Deus Ex HR on the Wii U is definitely a good port.

The Amiibos were a pretty good move from a marketing standpoint. Again, Nintendo is a toy company and the Amiibos are mainly targeted towards the sort of people who would probably have bought the figurines even if they didn't unlock content on the disk. It was a brilliant move on Nintendo's part to try to make enough money to compensate for some of their losses. The Callie & Marie Amiibos helped shoot Wii U console sales up by like 300,000 units in Japan this last summer.

I'm honestly thinking of buying a wii. I've got had a nintendo console since the N64 and I did play some games on the wii, and they were fun. So apart from W101, Mario, what is there?

See if you can get a refurb one. Once you get one refurb and then hack the vwii with homebrew it's worth it. A single device can play Wii U, Wii, and Gamecubegames. The games I enjoyed were MK8, 3D World, Yoshi's Island Woolly World, Captain Toad, XCX, Smash, Frozen Dong, Mario Maker, Bayo 1 & 2, W101, Pikmin 3. If those games don't look good to you, don't bother since you can get a used Wii for like $50 and then just hack it.

Dong Freeze, Bayonetta, Wii games, maybe ZombiU and Sonic Lost World.

GET THE FUCK OUT

gg.

The Japanese Saturn library is fucking phenomenal, I heard. Can anyone confirm?

Jesus christ.

Please tell me you pirated it, holy shit.

No it was the cool kind of purple, not the gay kind. Nothin personnel kid.

Yes, but it was in a time when all the consoles had more quality and variety honestly.

Relatively speaking, with respect to its own gen, the Wii U is the "Saturn" of the bunch. Hardware that is in some ways both behind and ahead of its competition. Drought of games compared to the competition due to the driving away of third party support. A small number of really good titles that make the console worth it. Ruined by bad marketing strategies and treated in a "oh, yeah, that exists" by the average consumer. Fairly successful in Japan but a failure in North America. Among its small numbers of consumers, there are people who are really devoted the console and bringing out the best of what it can do. Lots of accessories.

The analogy isn't perfect, but the comparison is pretty apt in my opinion when you look at each console within the context of its own generation. Nobody was saying the Wii U was as good as or better than the Saturn

And it won mainly because it was a cheap DVD player

It is, but unfortunately many of those games remain untranslated or have since been brought to other consoles.

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It certainly wasn't a very profitable console.

It had easily the most limited hardware of Gen 8.

Control scheme wise it was also a failure.

It also didn't look very appealing to lets just say higher aged demographics.

The attempt at making asymmetric games was a neat idea but that is all it was, a neat idea.

It had a couple of well made exclusives by platinum.
It had a new Super Smash Brothers… 2 years after release.

Look, they thought they could skate by with no quality first party games.
They thought the casual consumers who bought a Wii would still be there.
That a casual market would remain loyal and that their loyal fans would remain loyal without the titles they'd come to expect.
It had a bunch of interesting Japanese exclusives but they'd get censored or worse poorly translated by SJW meme loving faggots.

In a competition with only 3 real entries it deserved 4th place.
They tried to sell it for $300 if you wanted it with hardly any storage while the pinnacle of both capabilities and a substantial prospective library aka the PS4 was only $400.
Xbone tried to sell theirs for $500 and that was one of their many mistakes, but they are not on trial here.
Public enemy #1 is that damn tablet controller.
Some have issue with rapidly focusing their eyes between two different distances.
Some do not like the light of the tablet controller shining into their face.
The damn thing didn't even feel good to hold.
What kind of colossal jackass decided to put the right C-stick above the buttons?

The WiiU was not the Dreamcast 2.
The Dreamcast had positive qualities.

No, the WiiU was not a good console, it was a very very bad console.

Shit game
Shit game
Shit game
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Counting any "HD" remakes
The Saturn had the best multiplats you dumbass

Fuck you, I liked lunar magic.
:^)

nice bait

The Wii had a lot of good games, but you had to dig through a lot of shit to find them.

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Is this where your life has gone?

I think it was a good console but it literally has no games so that makes it shit by default.

Bayonetta 2 is the only game you have there that isn't (((localized))) or pure shit.

No, it was pretty shit. It was a piss storm during the shit hurricane that is 8th gen, but that doesn't make it sunshine.

Fucked up right off the bat with the marketing. Took way too long to get any decent games, weak library over all, and more of Nintendo's classic LOOK, WE CAN DO MARIO/ZELDA/ENTER POPULAR NINTENDO FRANCHISE HERE

It had some other ones, but like I said, they were too slow and far apart to attract any attention before it bled out and died. Good console if you're already a staunch Nintendo fan, not so much if you like them any less than that.

Nope

Nintendo hasn't made a worthwhile home console since the SNES.

mah niggas. Nintendoland and MK8 are easily the best contemporary couch multiplayer experiences available.

of course, the real problem is that everyone else has forgotten or otherwise ignored couch multiplayer. meanwhile, other nintendo local multi games have gone to complete shit (see: mario party).

wouldn't be surprised to see it all finally die off in favour of esports or some shit.

I can't help but imagine a port of Crystal Chronicles to the Wii U with multiplayer that isn't a pain to set up. Seemed perfect with the Wii U controllers already having a small screen on them and maybe some kind of online play.

the gamepad is honestly a really shitty idea.
it reminded me of having to look up and down at the fucking projector in 9th grade biology why is my neck getting tired playing fucking video games
first party nintendo games lets see here:
the worst mario party title in the franchise
the worst mario tennis title in the franchise
an alright mario platformer that you can just blow through like snes mario world
a wind waker remake with ridiculous lighting and the sound mixing fucked up so you can hear it on those blowass tablet speakers.
w101 honestly tried to make the best of the wii u's hardware but the hardware fucked up what could have been an interesting game
and once news of mirage sessions, xenoblade, and fatal frame came in i just put the thing back in the box until homebrew came out.

its a 3d clone of shitty indie flash games that use the same concept.

what do you mean by this?

The Wii U should have had more good Adult games, that's for sure.

No, as I recall WiI U was the first console by Nintendo to be sold at a loss.

The PS2 was the cheapest DVD player on the Japanese market, which was one major edge it had over the Dreamcast.

It came in different colors user.

Found the newfag.

Japan had a different color? This is news to me.
Orange Gamecube best Gamecube anyway, maymays aside

Japan actually had a number of colors designed to match different Gamecube models. Not sure about other regions but I know for example you could get a silver GBP to go with the sweet Silver GCN.

Also: You could get an Orange GBP, I've seen it.

They really have become the new biodrones. How much longer do we have to wait until some autist tries to figure out what Rosilna's sweat smells and tastes like.

Only a fucking retard doesn't think that the Gamecube controller is in the top 10 comfiest controllers ever designed.

in the year 2000 many DVD players sold for under $100. do you have any proof japan paid more for DVD players? because i find that very hard to believe.
or were ps2s there extremely cheap?

but that sonic clearly has a different color purple.

it may be extremely comfy (which it isnt unless you have babby hands) but the problem with it is its weird and awkward button placement.
both of the competition had twin sticks and symmetry.
gamecube had a purple controller with a dpad and stick on one side. with 1 shoulder button. while the other side had a weird yellow nub and a big green button surroudned by 2 crescent shaped buttons and a small red button. while it had 1 shoulder button and 1 shoulder small button.
it was fucking weird and asymmetrical. hence why you never see 3rd party PC controllers modeled after it. they all either copy the PS2 (perfectly symmetrical 1-4-2-2-4-1) or they copy the Xbox controller which had the sticks in alternate spots to give you that "1 leg up on the toilet while i wipe" feel of control.

at launch it only had 1 color as far as i know. later on they had more but that doesnt count. the gameboy color is fucking purple, i dont care if they made red, black, clear, or pokemon colored later on. we're talking about launch.

Not everyone has as much estrogen as you.

It also didn't have a DVD player like the Xbox and PS2.

How could it? Jewtendo was so fanny flustered about cd tech trouncing cartridges during the psx/n64 era it is not suprising at all they would rather make a "nintendo tweest" to a tried and true tech like DVDs. Nintendo seemed to be the first vidya company that would rather sniff their own farts than actually try to improve their product with common technology.

Seriously? NoA really was lazy from the start.

MUH DIIIIIK

Nah man, they've well past ascended to Bethesdrone status. I'm more interested in how sensitive her nipples are anyway

The joke is "purple (cool kind not gay kind)" you dingus

Much like the Wii before it, it was a wonderful idea that never realized it's full potential.

As shit as Skyward Sword is, it's probably the one game that did what the Wii advertised it would allow you to do as a playing experience. Skyward Sword is a shitty Zelda, but it's a fine sword fightan game.

Same thing with the WiiU. I don't think ANY game took full advantage of the tablet gimmick, nor should they have.

They needed more games, and if 3rd parties weren't going to get in there, Nintendo needed to stretch themselves a little thinner and fill in some of the space.

Honestly, I think Nintendo's history with shitting on western developers bit them in the ass pretty hard.

It wasn't even a fine sword fightan game. It was a great engine all-around, but the game they made with it was shit. Every enemy was shit, and every area was shit. The engine was great, the graphics were beautiful, and the controls were perfect. I just wish they made a good game with it.

Did Nintendo even have western devs during the Wii U years? I honestly can't think of any outside of 3rd parties and indies that only sticked with Nintendo because they had no where else to peddle their shit, and even then it didn't last after Zombi U was ported to every other console

I envy you people that never had your Wii Motion Plus shit the bed. God what a useless piece of shit that accessory was

sure why not

All the consoles this gen are shit but WiiU is the least shit if that's any appreciable metric of "good". I'll say that I loved Bayonetta 2 and Fatal Frame 5.

How does it feel doing it for free? :^)

The one thing I would have liked from Nintendo, or rather, several, if it they had developed a good handful of arcade style games to fill in the blanks between release wait times. Something similar to their old NES launch titles like Mach Rider or Balloon Fight (except, you know, a little better and more playable).

I think I enjoyed Star Fox Guard more than I liked Star Fox Zero.

Bayonetta 2 is still a very good action game - it's not quite as skill intensive as 1 but it also makes less general design mistakes like having no instakill QTEs or boring-ass vehicle sections. Seriously, I don't care who you are, you're lying to yourself if you say you enjoyed shit like Route 666. As for Fatal Frame, I sincerely believe the series never lost its way and that 5 does a lot of things 4 did but better. Plus, at the end of the day all I wanted from the WiiU was to use the gamepad as the Camera Obscura so despite its flaws elsewhere like the pacing it checked off the only box I actually had for the system. WiiU had one job in my eyes and it did it so fuck it.

How does it feel doing it free? I would say you have shit tastes in games but the way you are defending a company makes me want to believe you don't even give a shit about videogames, just nintendo.

Who exactly am I defending here? I said WiiU was shit, that I had exceedingly low expectations for it, and that I only really cared about those 2 games.

So you are either being a bitch who sits on a fence so he can't be wrong or you are doing so much mental gymnastics it would make shillary blush.

I didn't say "most consoles" I said "consoles this gen", and I'll stand by that. I think even less of the PS4 and Xbone.

Before the PS2, DVD players still weren't the primary source of home video entertainment in Japan. It was actually the PS2 that helped create the dominance of DVD in the Japanese market because it cost either the same or less than the average Japanese DVD player but could do a lot more. It was a much smarter option for the average Japanese consumer who had neither a next gen game console or a DVD player yet. Why possibly pay more for a game console and a dvd player separately when you can buy both in one device for the same price or less? On top of that, the fact that the Playstation 2 was a DVD player also expanded its retail availability as Japanese retailers that normally didn't sell video game consoles stocked up on the PS2 to sell it as another DVD player. By the time the first price drops for the PS2 kicked in, it was the best bargain DVD-Audio CD player in Japan. The Dreamcast was primarily a video game console and was mostly sold in video game stores as a result.

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The WiiU is an abismally bad console. It's underpowered, the Tabletpad is unwieldly, obnoxious and sadly, obligatory in many games (as well as a lot weaker than all revious Nintendo controllers) and Nintendo's online network continues being the worst one in existence.

What the WiiU did have were a couple of VERY good games (Splatoon and Mario Maker being the apex), and absolutely nothing more.

So, if you want a great piece of hardware, the WiiU is not it. If you want a great library of varied games, forget the WiiU. However, if you are a huge casual who only plays 3 games/year, then the WiiU might be just the right console for your little faggoty self!

Kill yourself you faggot Splatoon was an INKredible game, you CoD-loving faggot just take your existence and fucking end it already you fucking Segafag casual fuck >:U

It had a horrible advertising campaign, and I have heard people in real life ask if it's just a controller for the Wii. It launched with some good games then had a massive draught, and even then we still wait ages between games. It did do some things amazingly well though.
Grab a few friends, some alcohol and a copy of Nintendoland and you have everything you need for a good evening. Mario Chase is fucking hilarious. For a bigger group of friends you can use Game & Wario's pictionary game, or Sm4sh's 8 player mode. I'd have loved a console like the Wii U as a kid.
I never had a Wii. During the time between Wii U games I could go to a shop, grab something cheap and always have something to play. On top of that you can hack the vWii section, install Nintendont and play Gamecube games on it. You can even use the Wii U Pro controller with it.
80 hour battery life and a stick layout that makes clawing easy. It's also rock solid. Wii U Pro + Mayflash adapter is great on PC.
When I first got my Wii U I kept it in a drawer. When I wanted to play a game all I'd have to do is pick up the gamepad and use it like a handheld. I'd only need to open the drawer to switch games. It's really convenient.

As for the games, it had Mario Kart 8, Sm4sh, DK Tropical Freeze, Mario maker, Hyrule Warriors and the two Bayonettas. It also has Devil's Third, Paper Mario Color Splash which is still spelt color in the EU for some reason, Xenoblade X and Sonic Lost World, which are good or bad depending on who you talk to.
All in all I'd say it's good enough to be a good console, especially since it's a Gamecube and Wii as well.