Will there ever be good games again?

Ever since (((sjw))) journos proclaimed gamers to be dead I got more the feeling that video games are in fact "dead", as if there aren´t actually video games coming out anymore.

To me new vidya always had this "Whoa, I can do that? No way, this is awesome!" appeal and I was given the opportunity to have tons of fun while getting gud.
What the fuck happened? The last game I had this with is Dark Souls I and even this was quite a few years ago now, I enjoy the billionth Souls rehash as much as anyone else from time to time but Im just not getting excited about them in any way.

What I don´t get about this development is that you could actually get fucking rich from just making a good and innovative game for once. The Souls series is the best example for this: budget wasn´t really big and almost no marketing on neither Demon´s Souls nor Dark Souls I in the west, the series became fuckhuge nonetheless simply because it was good and the devs actually made an effort making a novel experience.
Fuck, just look at the Halo series prior to Reach, there was a dedicated dev team behind them that pushed the limits of what console games were capable of at that time and so Halo CE to Halo 3 ODST saved a whole console from irrelevance and the games itself and their character became such well known pop cultural icons that you could sell fucking energy drinks with them.

We all know that the endless reboots/rereleases/remakes aren´t doing too well in terms of sales and the releases of once gargantuan franchises and from super well known dev teams are only getting smaller and are rather known for their criticism and devious marketing tactics than being good games.
Making shitty games just doesn´t seem profitable to me in the long run, so why isn´t this idiocy still going on? I have opted out of playing vidya already and I know enough people that just don´t spend nearly as much money on vidya as they used to, not a single one of them is buying Skyrim 2 or Elder Scrolls Online, noone gave a shit about No Man´s Sky or Battlefield 1 or any of their ilk.

Catering to children and "casual" or better non- gamers doesn´t do this industry good in any way, it clearly isn´t underage b8 that made gaming huge and generated tons of money, they don´t have so much money to begin with and no fucking casual will spend a lot of money on a legendary-what-not edition of game or will read any novels or comics related to it.

For fucks sake Holla Forums I just want something like Rome Total War again, complete with the "What do you mean I can zoom in on a single soldier of my unit of legionaries tearing through a barbarian formation while a gigantic battles rages on all around him?" moment, thats not too much to ask for fucks sake.

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yeah I'm making a game it's going to be the best all of you will buy it and call me god of gaming and I'll get a mansion made of hookers then you'll never play anything else ever again it's going to be that good but it's going to take me a while to make so if you could donate to my PO box that would be great thanks guys bye

There are tons of great and good games still being made and release. You just have to stop only paying attention to AAA shit and indie clique trash.

Start paying attention to niche games and indie devs not part of the San Francisco clique

All indie games are from the San Francisco clique though. They wouldn't be indie games if they weren't, they'd be amateur or independent games, or perhaps even AA games coming from studios akin to a modern Acclaim Entertainment or Midway.

You really have to go out of your way to look for games now. It's a bit annoying but its also a bit fun, potentially coming across a hidden gem.

Well they never really stopped making good games, only lowered the frequency for doing so. Would you like recommendations for something?

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>TFW I start playing H-games because I like fun 2d platformers and sexy music

Not an |H game(but fairly lewd) but you should give Rabi Ribi a shot.

Quit playing AAA garbage and "indie" games.
Play actual, niche independent games (Bonesaw, Xonotic, Cube 2, tons of nip indie games, etc.) and older games, the older games didn't just disappear you faggot.

Indies still make some fun games, only the AAA industry died (or is now the walking dead). The problem is, indie devs can't code for shit. They're fucking terrible, often webdev-tier or worse. That means it's rare we even get proper multiplayer since even with pre-built engines it tends to be too hard for them, and any genre there's not a drag & drop tool for like MMOs is entirely beyond their reach. There's also no hope of a new genre that requires new tech emerging from indie devs unless the bar is super low (ex: Minecraft). It's very different from the '90s where the real developers who now are in the business of selling engines and canned tech were making games and it felt like we had a revolution in gaming every year.

Bannerlord, Nier Automata, Deathwing, Endless Space 2 and smaller games soon.

AAA is trash, give up on it and you will find joy.

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Looked up your stuff, dont know whether you´re illiterate or what you don´t get about "I´d like a good new game with novel gameplay" to recommend a generic platform sidescroller and two "I rocketjump faster than you hit ctrlaltdelete" arena shooters with massively outdated graphics.

I´ve been playing older games for the past three years and somehow got the feeling as if I´d actually like to see something new for once.


Then where are these "good and great games"? I´m not exactly looking for AAA stuff, but it seems that there are no smaller good games either these days, stuff like Serious Sam or even Metal Arms for fuck´s sake. Talos Principle is actually the last one that comes to my mind and its a fucking puzzle game.


Bannerlord and Stalker are the last entries on my backlog that I haven´t played yet, I do hope that they don´t disappoint.


Do you just randomly shitpost in threads? How is this even supposed to make sense in this context?

Ehh, Holla Forums hated on Undertale and nuDoom despite them being great games purely because they wanted to signal that they were better than the tumblrinas and normalfags that latched on.

Go for it.

Careful user, you might trigger the cuckchan refugees.

Undertale
nuDoom

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This is your problem. You're retarded.

stop caring about graphics so much
there are tons of great games being made, you just have to look for them.

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He already got one.

4channers go home

Did you finish nuDoom on nightmare so it wasn't pleb difficulty or are you signalling, anons? I did and it was great.

google.com/doodles/halloween-2016

It's pretty sad when a (((google))) browser game is the most fun I've had in months.

Just play older games or the occasional good japanese game. There is no way you played them all faggot.

Trump VR simulator is looking pretty good. In my honest opinion, giving money to charity to combat bigotry and help starving women and children is the only way a video game can be good and fun. If it's not that, then all it is is just a selfish time waster, and those are never fun. Honestly, we should just have all video games donate 10% of their profits to help refugees escape their war torn countries and start a new life in Europe.

So how'd you do?

Nigga what? The graphis of smaller games used to be just fine without the need to look like they are at least 20+ years old to appeal to notorious contrarians.
Good games translate to more than just basic good gameplay but fitting engine and graphics too you dense idiots.

Yeah, NuDoom and Undertale are not rehashed garbage games, they are still garbage games however, they look look shit and play like shit, the one has "muh funny and deep characters and dialogues" and the other has "muh gore", that´s it.

Lower score is (ironically) better here. Losing a life resets the level, but you keep your score. So, if you keep losing lives you'll end up with a higher score.

I got around 70k. I didn't get hit once, ergo, my score cap was lower.

bretty fast on that last attack by last-boss to not take a hit. That's where I lost a heart.

You're only denying yourself fun, I finished both and enjoyed them.

I actually like fucked up deaths and game overs.
It's a nice way to tell you to git gud.
That's one of the reasons I enjoyed Dark Souls

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If you're into RPGs I suggest Underrail and Serpent in the Staglands.

What the fuck is this supposed to mean? Do you fucking think Xonotic looks outdated because it tried to look outdated on purpose? Get help

Do you even play games, user?

It's trying to kill me, gamedev is actually trying to kill me.

What are you working on user?

Surviving, it'd seem.

W-what is this?

the mario is missing lewder reboot
but ultimately I wanted to make a h-game to fit 3 different genres, 2d platformer, rpg, and 3d first person party game


it's a fucking curse

I'd that cat

ya

Is that a cat with a knot?

was what vidya did from the beginning
I'm actually a "casual", currently playing The Witcher 3 GOTY on PlayStation 4 and enjoying it.
It's a great time to be alive, because those kind of projects won't be financially viable in the next decade, when AAA games finally become too expensive to make and stop being profitable.
It will be all mobile shit after this and I'm pretty sure, you will enjoy that.

Only some. Not all of them. Even NES had adult games.

user blaming all Jews for the absolute fucking shit show that is Social Justice Warriors is not just unfair, it's also a low blow. Feminism mixing with Communists and Socialists is solely to blame.

But it's their fault.

As soon as you get deving.

Currently I'm playing My Summer Car and Titanfall 2. Both are great.

I'd like one of those shrugs, please.

Yes, be a good stormfag and blame the Jews for everything. That way the SJWs can continue to gain influence because you're busy attacking the Jews for something they really didn't have a hand in.

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Jews created those in the Frankfurt school of thought.

Get some taste.
If you like everything or can't enjoy anything, you seriously have no taste.
Alternatively, if you can't enjoy something you previously liked, that's a sign of depression and you should see a psychiatrist and stop shitting up the board with your whining.

What kind of shrug is that?

He's a was fucking Protestant you faggot
Wrong.
Theodor Adorno's father was only Jewish by birth, he converted to Protestantism while his mother was a Catholic. Therefore not a Jew.
Erich Fromm may have been Jewish by birth but he was a Humanist.
Friedrich Pollock's father was a former Jew and he wasn't raised Jewish (there's no information I can find off hand about his mother).
Jürgen Habermas was born to a Protestant family.
This is what happens you faggots regurgitate memes and charts all day long.

IVE READ MARX

THE JEWS

I READ THE ONE ABOUT THE JEWS

We're still getting good games thanks to Japan.

That game is not really that good. Actually it's not even good. It's just .jpgs like star citizen. Like it's not even a game.

They're out there you're just afraid to try anything new or only want AAA games.

You just admitted they were all jews.

Well I'm having fun with it.

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Well, I don't like your fun! Stop enjoying things I don't like!


Isn't anybody looking forward to cyberpunk 2077? That shit is supposed to be what the cancelled prey was not. I'm keeping an eye out for it.

It has its flaws, but I'm confident the developers are improving with experience.

I see you niggers can't read
Theodor =/= Jew
Friedrich =/= Jew
Jürgen =/= Jew

Erich = Jew (but he became a humanist)

They look like delinquents.

it's made by cdpr so if history says anything it's going to be shit
they also didn't put out anything but movies so there isn't even anything to look forward to unless you would rather watch their animation over whatever pixar is doing now

But… I liked witcher 3…

>filename it spread to SMT
Did xey get around to revealing xir's gender?

OP, it doesn't work like that.
It use to work like that, it should work like that, but it doesn't work like that now.

There are a few things that sell me on games now.
One of them is "technology" as in things that didn't need to be put into the game that enhance the experience.
Playing though Skyrim 2 since I got it for free I can feel how little work was put into it and I don't just mean the rampant copy and paste or turning bookshelves into desks.
There is a chandelier suspended by a chain with candles in it.
When I strike the chandelier it should move and the lighting in the room should shift.
But it doesn't move.
When I fire an arrow at an empty bottle of wine it should shatter.
If it is a full bottle of wine it should gush wine into the air.
Instead it simply bounces all over the place.
If I ping an arrow into an enemie's head it should do at the very least critical damage, but instead there is no locational damage.
They should be crippled if I shoot them in the knee but instead it does just as much damage if you hit them anywhere at all.
Old people should have slightly hunched skeletons.
There should be babies and teenagers.
The game should have been designed to be able to be played in 3rd person.
Numerous fucking things could have been done and didn't happen.

Another thing that sells me on a game is loss.
The ability to lose the game if you don't play it effectively.
That often kills the casual market just like aimless exploration and puzzles, two other things I enjoy.
I'm buying a Switch next year to play Zelda is what I'm getting at because it looks like it can offer at least some baby grade level of difficulty that few studios outside Fromsoft are willing to make

If you want challenge, play roguelikes.

Marx came from a family with a VERY long line of rabbis

And by your own words

I think Dying Light was probably the last big-ish title that I thought had some worth. That wasn't too long ago but I know what you mean, the 'big name' developers are all stuck on peddling increasingly dumbed down dreck to anyone who's fool enough to part with their money to give a fuck what you or I think.

Best to let go of the notion of them producing much of value now they're taking the piss to the nth degree with the way they try to gouge everyone at every turn, new and niche studios may make some innovations though, not all hope is lost.

You're like the fa/tv/irgin who only watches Hollywood products and complains about "the state of film" as if he has any perspective.

How about this: stop gargling the diarrhea of the AAA vidya game industry (this includes "indie" games), and try out some foreign/freeware titles. You may even have to compile some of them yourself.

Congratulations. You are the industry's ideal cumslut.

Owlboy looks pretty solid and is coming out in a few days.
Salt and Sactuary isn't terrible (And isn't as much like Souls as people like to say it is)
Rabi-Ribi is pretty good, if you don't mind bullet hells.

Wat? AAA games only become so expensive because a fuckton of money is either being wasted on constant media shilling in order to get casuals to buy the game who dont buy shit unless a big advertisement has told them to a few times or it is wasted on getting beautiful graphics targeted at the same casual buyer who looks up a trailer ot two and reads some completely "unbiased" game critique then goes "Oh golly, this sure looks awesome, this has to be the greatest game ever."
At some point these idiots get that it quite isn´t and go into full damage contol mode claiming that anyone pointing out that the game is a blatant cash grab and a fraud must be a troll and they continue playing because there is nothing better anyway, just nice looking garbage and mediocre rehashes.

AAA can be ridiculously profitable, fuck I already pointed out how you can sell tons of shit to rabid fanboys by just making a couple of good games in the line of an otherwise mediocre game series, not to forget all the merchandise, its fucking shekelmania.

It already is mobile shit, just look at the new Overlord "game" and I never bought into that shit to this day and will never be able to understand how anyone could.
Fuck, the whole introduction post was about how I enjoy older games but am sorely missing the feeling of getting excited about cool new games with innovative gameplay or at least some nice novel ideas, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.

Sure friendo.


Well, I completely agree with your statements as to what a good game should be like, sad thing is that these are utter basics and I really can´t understand how someone who works in any field professionally can just approach his work while disregarding all of this, there just should be a point where he notices how nothing of what he is producing is actually what he should produce.


Why do you all have a fucking problem with the point that a game from 2016 maybe doesn´t have to look like a game from 2000 with below average graphics?

Short answer, yes. There's ALWAYS been a slew of bad games to go with good games. At worst, the ratio is worse now than it once was.

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Because you're dismissing games out of hand for something that's mostly unrelated to gameplay.

Here's a good litmus test: Which of these looks the worst?

This isn't entirely true and I would venture to guess that's one of those first year psych student type of bullshit analysis.
It could just mean that your tastes have changed due to external factors.
Time is usually the biggest one that changes tastes. When you don't have massive amounts of free time any longer you're less willing to spend that free time on the things that aren't bringing enjoyment/entertainment. You're less willing to dig through the coal to get at a few small diamonds.

So with modern games, especially AAA titles becoming more and more like movies, it is understandable that someone who wants to PLAY a game is going to get less enjoyment out of it because they are spending time watching canned animations and cutscenes and dialogue that goes on way too long.
And it doesn't help that the gameplay itself seems to be doing everything in its power to make you use less and less buttons so you can safely and easily make it to that next cutscene that all those animators worked so hard on.

When I had a shit load of time on my hands in the past, I was able to stomach that sort of shit. These days? if a dialogue scene seems to take more than a minute i'm already bored and wanting to put on something else.

How do you even into this scene?
I mean, seriously, every time I look up nip indie games I just get shitty Gamejolt/Itch.io links and lists of visual novels and shitty JRPGS that only weeaboos like

Got any recommendations other than Cave Story and that one PC Shmup from the 1990's?

While SJWs did have an undeniable and negative impact on the industry, I can tell just by reading through your posts in this thread that the bigger problem is that you're a fart-huffing contrarian faggot with an unrealistic view on what makes a good game these days.

No, I won´t ever stand for this.
Maybe it´s okay with all of you that you see fucking roguelikes, 2D crawlers, nippon bullethell, stale jrpgs or arenashooters as the best what video games should have to offer in the year of 2016 where technology has greatly moved on and where all signs point in a completely different direction with even the advent of affordable and working VR but I will never get down to a level where I will proudly show this stuff around as the pinnacle of what was once my longtime hobby and among the most awesome things in the world to me.

The reason for this thread was that I just got around to play some of the old stuff and was amazed by how finely these games were crafted and just what amazing features were implemented in them while they still run smoothly and have a lot more to offer. This made me realise that just because I was subjected to nothing but garbage coming out these years doesn´t mean that it isn´t an absolutely deplorable state that the whole industry is in and that this should be the norm in any way.
I actually hadn´t expected to get so much shit here since I think I made a fair point and it´s a bit sad to see that even the last place on the interwebz where you can talk relatively freely about vidya is full of people who refuse to see that things aren´t quite "alright".
All of you faggots who are still spending money on stuff like Fallout 4, Battlefield 1, Overwatch and Witcher 3 and whatever Souls game or dlc is the newest are part of the problem.

Still thanks to the user who suggested Bannerlord, I completely forgot about that one, should be enough for the rest of the year and maybe next together with Stalker.

The last one, with out a doubt

Time flies.

Mah nigga.

I'd also recommend AntharioN for "basic look, great game". Ignore the recent comments on Steam- armor works just fine.

I fucking love all of these games.

Good games are timeless. Sure, certain aspects of games don't always age well, but you still should be able to find entertainment and fun in a good game no matter when it was made. Casual cinematic bullshit simply isn't fun.

They are influenced by their predecessors who pulled off some 10/10 gangster looks back in the day.

furryi was decent

stopped reading

i see a lot of people playing this, is it a meme game or is it legit good?

isn't xe supposed to be akira or somehing like that?

objectively false, the first two weeks were entirely fine, with discussion and other shit, the game wasn't a bad word until around a month after release, however Holla Forums hated nudoom from the start because it was and still is shit.

Sorry I really needed a nap and it turned into sleep.

Well you should probably go ahead and ask for something specific, but for general recommendations I can tell you that…

Metroidvanias:

Stealth:

Beat em Up/Hack n Slash:
>Rainblood Chronicles(2D): Basically DMC3's Dante and Vergil translated into two characters in 2D. Great tons of fun but has an unfortunate design where you need to grind for items so that you can unlock combos.


Platformers:

Off the top of my head. Give me something specific then I might really give you something you'll enjoy.

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>>>/cuckchan/

I don't think you know what "signaling" is. Why would anyone virtue signal on an ANONYMOUS forum?

The last one, no contest, it lacks any kind of consistency. The pixel density is all over the place, and the character is a vectorized image. Even the font looks wrong in some places. It's a total mess, it's a textbook definition of retro done wrong.

You're fucking delusional if you think kids/teens who begged their parents for fucking games had no effect on the industry.

You're one of them, i presume.