Butterfly War Update


Guy who explained how to take down the CEO of Google actually pulled it off and is now tying together WordPress, NodeJs, GitHub, and Guccifer2.0.


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what's all this?

I remember this. Didn't think much of it either until jewgleman got the canned.

The final line is much more interesting:
"Silicon Valley will burn, from the ad revenue level up. I've all but guaranteed it."

So apparently the REAL reason the Google shithead is out is because he was involved in overcharging for ads.

- Oct 13th: CultState explains how to take down former CEO and HNIC of Google, Eric Schmidt, by exposing their usage of cyber phrenology

- Oct 31st: Holla Forums makes Jewdar shortly after, proving cyber phrenology is real (archive.fo/XNuuN)

- Dec 14th: CultState's ideas show up on r/The_Donald and get 1.1k upvotes after explaining how to use exposing Silicon Valley cyber phrenology to turn California red (archive.fo/Wri7v)

- Dec 17th: Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google and executive director of Alphabet's board, steps down for mysterious reasons.

- Dec 25th, CultState's WordPress account is compromised, (archive.fo/CDDZg) which detailed collusion to intimidation CultState from NodeJS contributors and GitHub employees, but now also showing collusion with WordPress as well, which means Guccifer2.0 is wide open for review given WordPress's silence on the topic despite holding his data.

- Dec 27th: Yair Rosenberg puts out NY Times piece of him gloating about using very bad cyber phrenology (archive.fo/PfjPH) and Twitter bans the bot soon after. CultState had already reached out to Gizmodo months before in anticipation of that apparently.


Schmidt was one of the CEOs to leave during the purge?
Holy shit I must have missed that name on the list.

I'm strapped the fuck in boys, this is going to be a very, very big year

He just called it cyber phrenology to dodge xkeyscore.

Huge stories keep happening, and nobody goes "HOLY SHIT!" It's like I'm surrounded by fucking idiots. The "HOLY SHIT!" moment that should have rocked the whole fucking world was when people found out that LIBOR had been rigged.

I'm seeing my friends become more and more awake and radical. It's a good feeling.

Key is drop little, easily digestible pills over time + maintain a good social standing and introduce new concepts with humour. "Does he think Hitler did nothing wrong ironically?"

Normies are finally starting to see the light

Global observer?

If so, hello. I'm honored, but understand, even the Eye of Sauron is a mere piece on this chessboard. Not even you can escape entropy.

If not… ignore that snippet of paranoia above.
LIBOR rigging was the distraction. The bailout was basically decoupled LIBOR from Keynesian virtuoso cycles while creating the illusion that they were still coupled. An amazing sleight of hand.

Jeeze and here I am an Electrical Engineer because I thought the next war would have to do with laser beams and advanced electromagnetics. I wish I had studied this stuff. I love convolutional neural networks, theyre by far the most interesting part of AI

Agreed. Here's a fun one: "Jesus never endorsed Democracy - but he certainly knew what it was, after all, the New Testament was written in Greek."

ANN are both the best thing ever and the worst thing ever. The one that amazes me is the most recent use by Google to create a text to speech voice that rivals (their evaluation shows it to be the best in the world - opinions will vary) the most complicated computer voices available. They did this without development in the area of algorithmic computer speech. They also released their code, but not the model. This means that it will only be a few years before all of those companies go out of business.

If you are friends with any Christians, have a copy of The Talmud Unmasked ready to lend to them.

If you get a change to bring it up in convo, do.

"I can't believe that the Jewish holy book says that JC is in hell boiling in excrement."
"I have the passage right here. This book was a real eye opener for me. Take it if you want."




I'm learning Greek. I have discovered something most amazing: Translations have been created by people who do not speak, do not truly read Ancient (Koine, in this case) Greek. They are, rather, grammarians, who decode/decipher! My plan is to become fluent, not in producing it in pronunciation, according to whatever authorities there may be, but being fluent in the language itself, intuitively. The reason there's no point learning to pronounce Ancient Greek correctly is literally nobody in the whole world is actually fluent in the language!


this is not surprising. i tried to run ads on google and got overbilled

what was google plan for their cyber phrenology?

Morgoth could not find the fires of creation, with which entropy can be reversed, because Eru kept them within himself.

Hi double space user.

That and he was the incarnation of the eternally existing God, which kind of necessitates that he have perfect knowledge of all world history, as well as the mind of every person. (Both of which he demonstrates. We catch glimpses of this in the gospels.) Yet for some reason YHWH only ever endorses monarchy, even in the old testament. I like how you specifically single out how he never endorses democracy though, I've never tried that.


That's some sneaky disinfo you've got there. Yes there are bad "translations", but the way you phrased that made it sound like there are no good translations. The people on the committees responsible for reputable translations do indeed speak Koine Greek, and yes, it is worth learning if you're interested in this field. Learning modern Greek can be a nice stepping stone, but language changes over time. It's just like in English… Words from the 1600s aren't necessarily used the same as they are today, if at all, and new words have been introduced since then. You need to understand how certain terms and constructions were used in their historical context in order to accurately interpret the author's intent.

I've known/met people fluent enough to actually use it conversationally, what are you talking about? People don't speak Latin as a first language anymore either, does that mean that nobody knows the language fluently? And why are you bringing any of this up in this thread? What does Koine fluency have to do with the Talmud?

It's my personal opinion that the bible was written in a language and terminology that the people of the time could easily understand. Saying "king" was much more convenieent and easily understood by the average illiterate peasant than whatever other words for "leader" existed t the time. After all "king" was the end all position of power at the time. Even the book of apocalypse references "kings" but it's not really nessecasry for these people to be literal royalty, rather they are powerful leaders instead. A president in a democratic country could very well qualify as a "king" by biblical standards.

must be nice to be a part of Generation Zyklon. my friends have all but left me for bread and circus shit.

That guy's autism is very impressive. I didn't bother reading the whole (first one you posted) article the first time… It's worth it. This kind of thing works, and is quite clever.

hmm go on

and maybe a copy of the Scofield Reference bible, tat single-handedly moved Christianity to Judeo-Christianity.
Fun Fact: The Scofield Reference Bible and The Balfour Declaration both came "hot on the scene" the same year. Pure (((Cohencidence)))?

understanding the nuances of 'Translation' v. 'Transliteration' will serve you well. In the US, we are so mired in euphemisms, we no longer have the ability to communicate effectively

Fuck off, nigger.

Reported for "muh plebbit spacing" derailment.

This. It's actually much easier to redpill christians on Jews and how they try to undermine christianity, making it a religion issue and not just a race issue. Mention that passage, mention martin luther and his loathing of jews, mention jewish produced tv and movies with anti-christian themes, mention israeli dualcitizenship ploliticians who send christians to fight muslims in the middle east etc. because their anti-christian shit is even more blatant than their anti-white shit and christians are already pissed about that, you just need to point out the one who is responsible for it.

Emblem, please explain in concrete terms how you're identifying the Google scripts being used to profile users, and how are you spoofing that data. Got a GitHub or something? Is there a "Jewish mouse activity" script I can plug into Selenium? Give me something solid to go on.


Your brain is too small for participation in this thread.

I still maintain friendships with people in various leftist groups. All I do is distract them the entire time. Get them to watch shows, read books, or play games I only read a synopsis of. Pretty easy to waste someone's time and make them ineffective. I'm always promoting the worst amongst them too. They eat that shit up.

And he decides to kike out. Fuck playing like a jew, dump and ruin.

I sort of tried this with my dad in relation to the holiday season and the never ceasing attacks on Christmas alone. I pointed out that Muslims don’t have any holidays now, Ramadan was back in June this year. The only people who would feel threatened by our holiday would be Jews. Muslims don’t care.


It's much, much worse. Think RICO.

Consider the workload: You own multiple outlets that receive millions of user-submitted content. Marketers, internal review, copyright owners, community moderators, and state actors are constantly querying your systems to find things. Laws are being made all the time to limit exposure of content to populations of specific countries. These are standard content management woes.

But GamerGate changed everything. GamerGate was an attempt to utilize multi-domain data analysis to isolate a collective behavior preemptively. Much like controlling the top ten Google results can alter an election, preemptively demonizing a nonpolitical collective that exists via measurable behavioral data can also influence an election. I knew this well in advance for the reasons I have detailed in my blog, ergo my fateful interaction with Milo and my extremely well-time bots.

To target the messaging a collective receives based on the behavioral signatures they emit is the essence behind digital ad revenue. After GamerGate, those signatures became critical political identifiers. And in the Fuck Trump Era, they are being used to preemptively target and eliminate his organic support system. (Us)

This all means Google and Facebook and other ad-powered Silicon Valley giants not only possess lists of acceptable behavior associated with demographics, (Think: “According to the math, that person is clicking like a black man”) but actively curates and uses them to control the messaging they receive. Some of those demographics are protected by Civil Rights legislation and protected in a way where that activity is outright illegal in America. The EU has already passed laws against Google that imply this kind of tone.

This puts Google and Facebook, massive financial and resource contributors to progressive ideologies, in a terrible position. They can't just destroy these lists. They need them for revenue. And Civil Rights violations automatically involve the Federal Government, which if timed correctly, can give Trump hooks into the Cali Senate run in 2018. The Left and the Deep State have consistently demonstrated a willingness to play dirty for timing reasons. (For example: Retroactively giving Al Franken a pass for the kind of rapey behavior that would have destroyed the career of any other man)

I don't want to bankrupt Google and Facebook or inflict suffering on the culture that tried to destroy me in 2013. That's pathetic. I believe I can make Google and Facebook indirectly and accidentally fund initiatives to inadvertently destroy Civil Rights legislation. From what I can see, they are running full charge into my trap.

To participate in this effort on the cheap with no technical knowledge, you just create a social media account of any particular demographic and engage in behavior associated with that demographic. You'll know your getting closer when you start seeing ads that more reflect that demographic. (For example: Make an account as a Jew and behave as such until you start seeing ads for, I dunno, matzah or Israeli charities.) Keep a detailed awareness of what you typed and where you clicked and how long you read your feed and what friends you have. Once you have a working theory you believe you can reproduce, create another account and try to get those same ads displayed to you. These accounts will be immune to Silicon Valley's automated censorship, giving you a fantastic asset that pays off in multiple ways.

Yair Rosenberg's cyber phrenology bot relied on a "carefully curated list" whose creation was never explained, but that originated from an effort of GitHub, Google, and NodeJS members who were trying to build lazy-ass Markov chains and naive Bayes to detect alt-right behavior. When you figure out the right combination of behavior that generates the right ads for your demographic, you'll bypass lazy and even sophisticated attempts at automated censorship. And the real fun begins when Silicon Valley escalates (Progressives always escalate, that's kind of the key tenant of the faith) to "improve" their methods of distinguish a real black man/Jew/woman from a fake one and accidentally take out thousands of actual social media accounts of the real users. We can make Google and Facebook accidentally target normies in bulk.

Once this happens, the mechanism will be in place to accelerate the complete destruction of Civil Rights legislation. And when this is done, I can move on to the next phase.


I'm not selling the databases. I don't even have them.

The databases I speak of regarding Guccifer2.0 aren't currently for sale… yet. The progressive devs/IT/DBAs with access to them aren't disgruntled enough yet.

But they will be once the realize they are writing code that enables cyber phrenology. Then the databases will be available and Guccifer2.0 can be unmasked. :D

Why are you laying out your personal details for everyone to see? You realise that hiring a hitman through 8 nodes to reduce traceability costs pocket change to these people.

I didn't say they're human souls user.


Oct 13th archive broken, please post a backup so I can archive the archive.

Nevet fucking mind, now it works. Polite sage

I am aware of the potential for that outcome.

First, It's amazing what you can get done when you truly and honestly accept your own death. It really is.

Second, one should never assume perfect forward secrecy. I operate in a different opsec paradigm: Do it all in the open. Assume the Eye of Sauron is on you at all times, that your phone is tapped, that your devices are compromised, and that the devices of those around you are compromised, and accept that you will never have a time advantage over the Eye. I accept the rules of the game.

My adaptation to that game is to stand on the sidewalk and say that the car on the horizon will pass us and when it does, I can convince others to throw something in its way to alter its direction at the right time. That's all I'm really doing at the end of the day. I'm always speculating about the outcome of that action, but I've been pretty accurate about previous speculations, so I'll keep this trend going until I have to reevaluate underlying assumptions. I might be wrong. I've been wrong before. I've always adapted.

I believe secrecy is to be spent, not coveted. It's just a different opsec perspective with different trade offs, that's all.

Third, I picked the Chans for a reason. This plan I've laid out is being collected by some IC asset somewhere and possibly being analyzed more directly. On this point, I have to take a tremendous leap of faith and assume that American IC is in the middle of a civil war and that not all actors are following orders. Snowden was the canary in the mine. Imagine a thousand Snowden's with political axes to grind, all conniving to black mail superiors or start a private firm and secure a contract. Somewhere in that web of intregue, one or two analysts are keeping details of what I'm doing and running cover for me. It's a crazy, wild assumption, but it's one I have to take for now. That situation will improve dramatically in 2018.

We all die at the end of this ride, right?

Nicely put.
Akchualy, it's not crazy at all.

You’re one hell of a ballsy motherfucker, user. I like that grim determination. Keep it up. See you on the other side, eh?

Aspergers and Bushido. It's a hell of a drug. Godspeed & HYN user.

Godspeed user.

genuinely loud and heartfelt lol

great way to end 2017

That's an admirable way to look at all this.

So what's the plan's big picture? Anons might be able to contribute but OP does set the table and call to action.

Nice Q level larp you got there

What you're saying in terms of your op-sec is not that out there at all… at least to me, I've always thought that same exact way about everything and I'm completely tec illiterate

It's… ahh…. it's very complicated. I've mentioned it to a few anons here before, but via voice chat. And even what I exposed there was still just another part of the plan.

When I first revealed myself after years of being in the shadows, I did so with the purpose of being doxed. I've left countless trials, snippets, insights, and traps for those who research my past… all intentionally designed to plant a seed to those who read it. As "le ebil mastermind" as that sounds, if you do the research, you'll find I've been freakishly consistent in focus and intention over a twenty year period.

Encoded within that seed is a thought experiment, the likes of which that can change how you look at yourself and the universe once you fully digest it. The thought experiment is this:

Create a new emotion.

Every attempt to "answer" this thought experiment has failed. Fedora-tippers will try and get technical, but the moment they start categorizing what is and is not an emotion, they always fail at the epistemological level.

Nihilists will say emotions don't even exist but you and I know that's not true because our memes work.

The humanist will say all emotions are subjective and are trained tabula rasa style, but that's hyper-individualist conflict-avoiding vomit who willfully discounts the impact psychology and sociology has on mass marketing.

The Marxist might say emotions are bourgeoisie artifacts of the superstructure while incessantly appealing to envy.

The earnest will say its like seeing a new color, but that still implies a structural and predictable foundation rooted in wave mechanics. It's a fine analog, but neurology has a very different structural and evolutionary imperative.

The only person who gave me an answer that was thought provoking was an exotic dancer. She didn't even have to think all that much about it. “Sociopaths”, she said. Her reasoning was that since they don't have emotional responses like the rest of us, if a new emotion did exist, they would mimic it without thought while everyone else would try to interpret the emotion within the set they already possessed. That's the kind of interpretation that puts evolutionary biology on its head.

I believe this thought experiment, when unraveled, contains the key to getting all of us off of this planet in a materially sustainable way. Everything I do is because of this thought experiment. Everything. Without exception.

Butterfly warfare still top warfare

Didn't we already identify Guccifer as a DNC operative trying to create an alternate narrative to obfuscate the Seth Rich / Wikileaks story?


Yes, death is inevitable. Only by accepting this can promises of comfort not rule over you.

Been doing your strategy for years (I specialize in mimicking spics, women and niggers), will continue to 'cast stones' in this way. I admit the power is somewhat addicting.

Im a brainlet and I don't get this

The bible primarily consists of a known world of persia, arabia, tigris and euphrates river valley, egypt, and the anatolian and balkan peninsulea. The bible, for maximum exposure, would use lingua franca of the day. Since greek was included, the democratic balkan city states were in mind in entirety while it was written.

The bad guys Deep State SJW's have bet the farm on their


CEO is going to have a bad quarter and worse year…

Holy shit, I remember reading that white Rabbit day care investigation, this is absolutely spooky as fuck.


My dick is the kind of metal that would carve a diamond like butter.

Another good thing to do is watch Marching to Zion, and use the bible quotes that they use as arguments to how Jesus was talking about the Jews. Worked great for my family members


Jesus would lock her up
Jesus would smash Google into a thousand pieces


Cube… the fucking movie.
Just saying you faggots scoffed at me. I tried to warn you all.

At some point you have to say fuck it.
You can shitpost and dox for decades online and have some impact.
Or, you can continue to do that, then go to the local bar and continue your work there.
Then go to the neighborhood meeting place and do it some more.
When the kid family members try to put on their big boy pants and talk politics, show them the real world.
By talking about forbidden knowledge jews, race, societal decay in public you enhance the power of your knowledge; which is, as long as you deal in the verifiable facts, already more powerful than the historical lies taught in public schools.

Everything dies.
The only way to obtain immortality is to live on in the memories of others.
You will become a meme if you become effective at spreading forbidden knowledge.

That book is full of grammatical errors; why use this rather than the Talmud, which would carry more weight in a conversation? That book would easily be written off by a normie as antisemitic, while the Talmud is their holy book.

It only takes up a whole wall. Might as well tell them to read the Encyclopedia Brittanica.

Could virtue signaling be a form of this sociopath-identifying new emotions?

And is there a way to insert whatever new emotion we create into the culture using the methods you've described?

Bless you, and thanks for the wise words. Its a strangely pleasant reminder sometimes, that its all just a dream. Godspeed friend, and good luck.

Problem is they failed to properly account for self-interference. Co-option always requires factoring in how the agents themselves can influence the outcome. For instance an agent finding themselves believing in their own propaganda results in skewed analysis. So their operations always have a top-down vulnerability: Influencing the agent's perception means influencing their analysis to a point that end up subverting for you without realizing it.

That's why I think the future will be individually tailored suggestions to engineer desired swarms through matchmaking personalities. Find a way to create artificial standalone complexes which serve specific agendas without co-option being needed at all. Then it's a matter of balancing these complexes so no single one ends up winning, but fulfill greater interests.

I have 140 ish IQ and am highly educated. This is the most brilliant thing I've ever read.


Maybe in Revelation, but that's speculation. Either way, subjects of prophecy like this aren't what I was referring to.

Because that was all my post was about.

>Fun Fact: The Scofield Reference Bible and The Balfour Declaration both came "hot on the scene" the same year. Pure (((Cohencidence)))?
COHENCIDENCE. I've been looking for that information, thank you.

This user gets it.

Interesting. So I guess the way for mankind to reach the stars is to DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED.

Murderous rage is an elemental human emotion though. I'm thinking fake emotions that sociopaths could discover through repetition are more along the lines of modern art trash.


Murderous rage is a human emotion. Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.

But in order for the sociopath to mimic the new emotion… wouldn't someone else have to actually feel that emotion, in order to represent the outward appearance associated with that emotion? Or is there something else about this thought experiment I'm missing.

Asking because everything else you've said is brilliant, but I don't understand this.

Emotion itself would be a composite state of many risk/reward functions collaborating/arguing to favor a evolved response to circumstances. Intelligence and emotion are linked at a base level, but diverge when separated between two functions: Learning and motivation. That means to truly creating new emotions (beyond humanity's scope) also requires developing a new model of intelligence to compliment it. By that reasoning an AGI would definitely have new emotions that humans won't recognize, because it'll evolve responses to handle risk/rewards in its own way.

This answer also fits with your realization of advancing beyond Earth, because another general intelligence would gain insight on how to achieve things that humans currently struggle with.

Memetic systems have basic survival instincts and responses. It's most readily visible within religion. It should be possible to generate a new emotion through a memeplex, that is through a spoofed religion or culture. Chans aren't far off from being able to accomplish this as our culture is already alien to the normal person.

Butterfly war is partially about baiting the elite into generating a method of discerning real from fake people humans. Human group signatures used in marketing or to censor could be seen as composites of risk/reward response patterns (contextualized emotions). Consequently a sufficiently advanced algorithm to detect trolls would be only a hairs breadth away from detecting sociopaths. Once they push things to this level the tech can be used against sociopaths as a sort of super autoimmune weapon.

Greetings. OP here. Welcome to 2018, everyone.

I've spent time putting together a rough approximation of why the "Create a new emotion" thought experiment is so important to everything I am doing. Pic related.

It's a high level and poor breakdown, admittedly. Bare with me if you can, I've spent 12 years and written thousands of pages on this concept and it is still difficult to boil down in a way that doesn't send people into an autistic tizzy of territory staking. The premise is this:

New emotion = new logic = new math = new science

With new science, I can finish what Newton started.

Loud announcements of compliance with a moral standard is a primitive way to build swarm behavior. All virtue signaling is done for purely intimidation reasons.

Yes. My book (One I've never released and will never release) is all about how to do this. The outcomes are not what you think they will be, however. If two people have a new emotion that no one else has, what they have is an unbreakable method of encryption between each other. Ever come across an animal displaying a social behavior you cannot explain with absolute precision?

This is one of the pragmatic outcomes of the "Create a new emotion" thought experiment.

I account for Postmodern sources of behavior in pic related haha

Let's say an alien lands next to a sociopath, exits the ship, and starts flailing about. The exotic dancer believed a sociopath is best suited to emulate that behavior back at the alien, sort of mirroring the behavior while creating a basis of emotional comprehension.

Yes, I am suggesting that sociopaths are the best suited to understand any new emotions aliens or artificial intelligence creates. Fite me.

I believe you will find pic related along the same theme you are expressing.

To append to this insight, Butterfly War also qualifies as fourth generation warfare. It is an attack that, even if no one actually builds bots or spoofs meta data as I suggest, the sheer threat that it's possible forces the target to change their behavior in predictable, exploitable ways.

Sorry, totally missed this.

Last I heard, it was heavily implied that DNC hands we all over that person. My honeypot compromise opens the uncomfortable question: Why has Wordpress been silent about data relating to Guccifer2.0?

Holy shit user, this is possibly one of the smartest ways I've ever seen Memetics used as mind manipulation. if it isn't too much too ask, do you have any more details on the subject? This has gotten me really excited about its potential

What about the creation of a fake emotion? One which actors manually insert into the lexicon and culture. Due to sociopaths ability to change their colors "imitate emotions" without having the frame of reference of understanding those emotions at the level non sociopaths do, could this be done to out them? It'd be like they developed a poison wing pattern for which no other butterfly possesses, therefore the predator has no conditioning to avoid it.

Hey you beautiful faggot, you're gonna want to look into Gödel's completeness and incompleteness theorems. More important than the maths involved, are the philosophical implications - knowledge is infinite, and it is a real (and likely, in his estimation) possibility that it is all attainable.

In his unpublished 1961 essay, "On the Modern Development of Mathematics in Light of Philosophy", he outlines his hopes for new mathematics. You'll find he points to Husserl's phenomenological method, which is a mental exercise not unlike creating a new emotion that allows one to study how to know the known unknown.

Best of luck, know you are accompanied by a silent minority of high IQ individuals who will work alongside you to free the creative mind from the bonds of slavery. The logos will prevail.

The hatred anons have for modernity and its postmodern abandonment of human dignity is something have been intimately familiar with since my earliest memories. I grew up in a post-industrial wasteland and watched a newly broken people justify their own descent into animalism. I had the luxury of being the recipient of the very worst of human nature at a very young age and that drove me to find ways to put an end to it.

The way I see it, the world used to be fight or flight. Now it is fight or capitulate. Flight is off the table. I seek to bring it back, but that is a very hard problem to solve. Minds far greater than mine have spent more years than I've been alive trying to solve the problem of restoring flight (planetary exodus) and, at best, they could only make incremental improvements. To my horror, I would later find the entire structure of modern mathematics plagued by this trend. No level of self-inflicted autism would allow me to reach my goal within the span of my lifetime. I had to pivot heavily and think creatively.

I started to entertain the idea that mathematics itself was being limited by neurological biases. Not cognitive biases, but neurological, as in, the structure of the visual cortex was finely tuned to comprehend three-dimensional space, not n-dimensional Penrose tensors. I had asked myself a question: “How did intelligence even evolve into being?” and the only answer I could find were hand-wavey new age masks for flimsy political initiatives. It was slim pickings in those days and the situation hasn't improved much.

Francis Fukuyama inadvertently gave me a clue in Our Posthuman Future, which was his apology to Samuel Huntington after Clash of Civilizations smashed Fukuyama's End of History In it, Fukuyama gave a brief mention to bioengineering new brains and the implications that will have on moral and legal frameworks as an interesting what if. He left it dangling and couldn't connect it to the evolution of intelligence.

This missing piece connected the following conclusion: If a posthuman brain could mean new morality, then that would imply new emotions. If new emotions were now a concept, then how did any emotion evolve into being in the first place?

It was a long and error-prone journey, but the short of it is that our neurological impulse to extract emotional data from behavior implies an apriori limitation of what patterns we can and could not see. Therefore, a new emotion would imply new pattern detection, which means new truths about reality could be seen as well. It wouldn't just be morality and legal frameworks that would be turned on their head in the advent of a postmodern mind, but the entire realm of mathematics and logic itself as well.

You propose an interesting concept. Lemme explore it.

The concept of a new emotion is possible, and giving it a name is also possible. Let's say our new emotion has a label called “flomagork” and we use mass media to associate behavioral properties with flomagork. The novel behavioral properties can take hold in culture, but those properties are still compliant with the emotional data that an individual can already extract. Any behavior these recipients emit would be encoded with emotional data for emotions they already possess.

A fake emotion could exist as part of a mass hallucination in which all sensory input is firmly controlled, yes. But it would still appeal to already existing emotions, and so sorting out the easily deceived from a sociopath might be a difficult challenge.

Godel. Goddamn Godel. He was critical in my understanding that no level of intentional autism would help me achieve my goal.

In fact, pic related is the current scope of where I'm at. It's a protoype, but its for a very applicable and immediate pragmatic purpose, specifically expressing machine epistemology in entropic terms.

And off into the very deep end we go!

Thank you for the new thought paradigms to those in this thread who have sparked them. It's pleasantly rewarding finding a blog that looks like lunacy turns out to be brilliant.

When you speak of visual cortex user and perception, does any of the following mean anything to you?

We have been deceived into believing, that we possess (Euclidean) vision, incapable of sensing an infinite, non-Euclidean universe. The opposite is true. Our vision is non-Euclidean and we are experiencing a finite Euclidean reality.

Direct realism vs perceived realism…

The work of Thomas Reid.

Godspeed, I like the way your head works.

I suggest you stop listening to secondary sources, then - the conclusions of his work are summarized by talking heads as a message of futility. However, in his own words (please do read or listen (link) to the essay I mention, it is short) he rejects this and asserts the opposite.

The crucial point of distinction: a human mind is capable of intuitive leaps outside of any set of rules of thinking. The incompleteness theorem applies to systems confined by set rules. Man =/= Machine. Machine has limited knowledge. Man has unlimited knowledge. All that is needed is to think, and think well.

Newton was an egotistical hack. He is famous for saying "Hypothesis Non Fingo". Leibniz, however, was a true man of genius, who unabashedly ate of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil and sought to share it with the world.

Leibniz sought to bust the mind free of its chains with en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characteristica_universalis

Gödel, in researching Leibniz's work on his universal language, discovered evidence that Leibniz had been censored posthumously by those who seek to perpetuate man's ignorance for reasons of power. Source: archive.li/xrRVZ

This is a fair analog.

The evolution of this thought is hilariously paraphrased as::

Plato: Ideal forms exist
Hume: Ideal forms cannot be known unless they generate sense data.
Descartes: I can't prove a damn thing about any of that except that I exist.
Nietzsche: Not even you exist, only ideal forms of you exist.
Orwell: Even in absolute nonexistence, power always finds a way to assert authority.

Forgive my flippancy, I was being colloquial.

I do not extract futility from Godel. His destruction of Hilbert was essential and I fear we will be facing Round Two of that fight as the promises of machine learning fail to deliver.

Which supports your observation very well:

> archive.li/xrRVZ

A very fun revelation. Thank you and I shall read immediately! :D

Being a sociopath is, as far as I've understood, the best character option for this kind of warfare. My question is, how do you create a new emotion that is outside of at least the majority normiemotions?
Which sources are good to start getting into improving pattern recognition of the kind?

I think the majority of anons here tend to keep one meme pretty close to their heart.
Those two words kinda tend to destroy each couple of months big portions of things we thought to be true or even ignored and replaced them with, if not whole truth, a glimpse of what could actually be happening. Making us recognize some patterns thus creating a new emotion(?).

Also good insight about secrecy. I have been doing that myself, but practicing it more in the real world. Engaging all kinds of people with the only goal of controlling their emotions and testing their reactions to words, touch. Developing a set of triggers.
Memeing as a skeptic leftist sometimes dropping redpills left and right without leaving the charade. Talking with fags, negroes, etc. Only to learn from them, imitate them and use their personalities emotions for defense/offense purposes when needed.

Always best to start with the self, in my experience.

Try and visualize what the new emotion is and then attempt to explain how it is not part of an established emotion. This requires you to explore emotions you already have and detail them in full. Only when you have done this can you begin to create the concept of a new emotion.

This will take you to strange and uncomfortable places, so beware.

Getting back to you regarding Godel and Leibniz.

> Gödel, in researching Leibniz's work on his universal language, discovered evidence that Leibniz had been censored posthumously by those who seek to perpetuate man's ignorance for reasons of power. Source: archive.li/xrRVZ

Let's assume such a conspiracy existed and that it dates back to even before the 1700s. Let's even go a step further and say such a conspiracy dates back to before Leibniz was even born.

Let's also say the Thirty Years War was a physical manifestation of a European "semanic apocolypse", usherd in precisely by those who would later influence Leibniz and Newton, specifically, a man named Michael Maier who was very adjacent to affair that led up to the Thirty Year War.

Godel's concerns were correct.

I know all of this because Maier's work are the symbol of my company.

Reviewed. It is good, your work is on the Way.

Could you share additional information on how Maier is relevant? I'm unfamiliar with him, so your comment here is lost on me.

Perhaps you will enjoy the pic I've attached.

What's your public key? I'd like to continue our conversation after this thread.

I'm an user with a peanut brain. I may not be able to contribute to any of this but I'm compelled by my understanding that all of this is really important. I know posting is pointless if not detrimental but I must. From between the Overmen and Undermen I observe the Overmen kinda thing.
have a bump I guess.
fml tbh famalam

Micahel Maier was the unofficial "court alchemist" for Rudolf II Habsburg who was very much enamored by the Rosicrusian mysteries of the pre-war period. He would later go on to influence Newton tremendously.


If you want to understand the very true origins of the memetic warfare we engage in today, it is a direct extension of the Rosicrusian model directly from this period. Mystery cults, gnostic impulses, the pursuit of truth… all of it, organic adaptions embraced by civilians to survive the social tensions within in the period before the Thirty Years War, or the sematic apocolypse between Catholics and Protestants.

His work, Atalanta Fugiens, presented a series of mysteries to readers and contains one mystery of great importance to me and my efforts: Emblem 21, or the mystery of the philosopher stone. You see, to solve my problemm, I needed a Newton or a Leibniz… but I was not destined to be one. However, I could assist in the creation of such people and they could, in turn, unlock the missing piece.

I do. I'm the one that created it. :D

Pic related.

I have no public key and that's on purpose. If people wish to pretend to be me, good. That should add to the confusion and serve as a filter for allies and enemies alike. I have no copyright or patent to enforce.

To keep in the spirit of things, those who seek me ought to. To be honest, I'm fairly easy to find.

Thanks for the bump. Hang around complex things long enough and you'll start to absorb something from them. It's how we all do it, tbh.

I’m with you, user. I don’t really get it, and until now I considered myself a memetic technician of some prestige. Just gotta keep rereading and hope it clicks.

Keep at it OP, and have a bump.

Hey OP. I wish you nothing but the best in the new year. May all that you strive for come to fruition with grace and serendipity.

I was hoping it was yours :)

Made my year.

Know people are listening.

I'll reach out here soon and hopefully we can team up to some extent.

0days of the soul… dude well done. I think we have a lot to discuss.

I do.

Little shill man, are you from 2016? you just don't fit in…

I know right.
I had all these ideas on how to formulate neural net linguistics in order to build sleeper bots that would do this, not this sophisticated mind you, but more to jam their advertising with so much fucking junk they would be effectively useless.
I like this better.

I'm from long before then…
Oh but I do…


I think the context for a new emotion emerges from swarm behaviors, whether memetic or human. Swarms have open to them a number of behavioral patterns that simply do not apply to humans as individuals. Consequently a mind that can simultaneously be part of a swarm and an individual may be capable of beginning to feel swarm emotions, that is emotions that pertain only to swarm behavior.

It's entirely possible that your insights are arriving simultaneously with the incarnation of your aspirations. Kek, the hivemind, and what we've achieved through this absurd beautiful Mongolian rock throwing board may hold the nascent key to unlocking the entire thing. If reality really is a composite of networked tensors than deterministic math may be an emergent statistical aggregate rather than an absolute. In this case we would need two sets of math. Math and meta math.

Swarms can converge and dissipate. Humans cannot do this as individuals. Consequently a swarm possesses an emotion that is most similar to victory and defeat but is neither of these. What I'm saying is what you're looking for may be most closely approximated by Hailing Victory.

Whoops. Meant to say Michael Maier looks oddly like John McAfee.

OP better have produced at least a dozen aryan super babies.

I feel your pain brother, I literally went down a massive list of large scale events since October with my extended family during the holidays and the only one that even got a response was "Wow Papa John stepped down, really!?" Fucking boomers are so useless, there is so much work to be done.

Has the right. Fuck off with the nigger speak.

Human emotions can be broken down into three categories: Envy, Contentment, and Repulsion. That is, you either want something, have something, or don't want it. So in order to create a new emotion you would theoretically have to create a fourth option. The best way to do so would be to eliminate Envy and Repulsion and see what more presents itself.

So imagine a world in which you already have everything you could even want or need; a world in which there is nothing that could ever exist or be presented to you which would cause a type of envy or repulsion. Humans have an innate desire for knowledge and power, so you would have to be a god and would thus have to think like a god unbound by human limits, instincts, or desires to create a fourth option. So imagine you were a god staring at your blank canvas and imagine what you would do. Maybe you think you would put on a cool light show or make a galaxy cluster do trippy spirals or whatever your autistic mind can come up with, but those are all your humanly desires. A god would create something beyond his boundaries which he cannot control. A rock so heavy that not even he can lift, so to speak. With living organisms that would be Free Will. Not for any desires to create it, but for the explicit reasons of creating simply to create and observing simply to observe, even if for a god they would happen concurrently and instantaneously. So creation and observation would have to be emotionalized under the fourth option of truly doing something just because you can, unbiased by envy or repulsion.

If you could, would you create a reality in which you can experience anything? How do you know if you'll be content with what you've created? Will you be repulsed by what you see, or will you want to see more?

The curse of life is the curse of want : /

For some reason I feel as though the 'Creation of a new emotion' does not only give the opportunities you speak of, ie. New Logic, New Math, New Science, but also appears to be a way to 'weed out' the sociopathic Jews, by catching them 'off-field', to use a sports analogy. Another analogy would be one seen in cartoons where someone mimics being a mirror - eventually he will mess up and the other character will discover the truth.

Doesn't the creating of a new emotion necessitate new or expanded perception? Thus the experiment can be simplified, or redirected, to experiencing an aspect of reality that is "alien" to our concept of the inherent forms of reality.

By experiencing reality, or our perceptions of such, in this foreign manner, we would be experiencing the same sensation you described. As with the new emotion being only able to be slantly explained through existing emotions, so too would the experience of the alien perception of reality be only explainable through slant means.

Thus I would argue that a new emotion and a new perception are bi-directionally causal, and thus the experience of one will result in the experience of the other.

Another interesting question is; Are emotions inherently dualistic, i.e. do they exist in inverse pairs? If the creation of a new emotion results in the automatic creation of the inverse, then the job is not to create one but a completely new set of emotions.

have a bump

process discovery is already encapsulated in the emotion of playful joy

Dualism gets you a long way in terms of semantics but not in emotion. Anger doesn't have an opposite. It's a RESPONSE. Not every response has an opposite.

It's what I want most.
I suppose if you were a god creating something outside of your boundaries, such as a man with free will, it could reopen the doors to repulsion and maybe even envy of their creations if possible, but the act of creation itself would elicit an emotional response stemming from it. If you're creating and observing under the purpose of "simply because I'm able to" then it wouldn't be to satisfy curiosity or achieve a sense of accomplishment as someone with a defined agenda for doing things would.

A god creating and observing something wouldn't be doing it for the sake of anything other than the fact that he is able to, whereas as a human would be doing it for curiosity and likely the desire for improvement. It wouldn't give you a sense of joy if you had no expectations, good or bad, and didn't care about the outcome.

haha I had not considered that before. He kinda does.

Consider a leviathan of apparatus that allows for the tight control of emotional stimuli for large volumes of people to digest. (Hollywood, Silicon Valley, etc)

A new emotion would be extremely novel for such an apparatus if the emotion could be detected by the intended audience. In fact, if such a thing were possible, new emotions would not only be created, but dripped out at regular intervals to keep the target population enthralled in the aw of the new emotion perpetually.

It is a fairly horrifying concept and one that serves the ends of these two apparatus.

I hope you understand why I target Silicon Valley and all that is it connected to so aggressively now.

It appears that way, but if I give you infrared vision, even technologically augmented, you would still only experience the emotions you have based on the stimuli. It is possible that, perhaps, over time, your neurology would find shortcuts to process that new information and that in turn could create a new emotion, but instant awareness of a new dimension of reality wouldn't automatically create a new emotion.

But yes, there is an eventually causal relationship between perception and emotion.

Dualism is a model that I have found explains emotions the poorest and, in fact, intentionally limits the full spectrum of emotional availability.

The naive often say "There is only love and fear" and when presented with the idea of wonder or wanderlust, they contort themselves in strange ways to force fit the emotions within their limited paradigms.

I find it best never to categorize emotions because, at that point, you are only talking about the feasibility of structural compliance, and not the emotions themselves.

Apathy? If you don't want to call it "contentment with nothing."

I find the high-mindedness of this discussion kind of daunting, but allow me to register my thoughts, if only to help individuals near my level contemplating this thought experiment, or to keep me more on base. As an aside, I have effectively zero education on these topics.

First, I'll say that creating a new emotion as a concept does not seem particularly difficult to me. That feeling itself is probably a bit of a trap, because the thought experiment itself is very koan-like. Even using higher-order thought to construct an emotion, I won't be able to feel it except via a dependent emotion like satisfaction, which I understand is where most of the answers fall flat. Without bogging myself down heavily in what is or isn't an emotion, I suppose that the most important question about this that needs to be answered is what shall this emotion serve, that is, what concepts should be linked? I'll take some cues from emotions that are said to be uniquely human, rather than primal emotions like fear and anger which are readily observed in animals: humor and piety.

I didn't choose these on accident, as I feel that these two feelings are very important to the evolutionary state of mankind, and obviously as well to memes, and can't really be boiled down to more elementary sensations because their causative stimuli are unique. I won't dwell further on what they are but to say that they have long term end effects unrelated to the inducing event/trigger and shape memories and behaviors, both individual and group. If I wanted to create a new emotion, a new stimulus/sensation pairing, I'd want to consider the end goal of this enframement, this cognitive entanglement of concepts and sensations, because that would provide its basis. Now, this is where it gets tricky and throwing together high order concepts as proposals is kind of a waste of time since this is just a thought experiment. If new logic is the goal, it becomes even more difficult, because new thoughts or feelings need to be thought or felt on the basis of new stimuli that are missing or unknown.

Going a bit off-path, with warfare and encryption as part of the framing, one of the major drawbacks of emotion is that it is immutable, that is, funny things are still funny, irritations are still irritating. Two holders of the new emotion attribute would have an intuitive understanding of each other, for certain, but try to imagine understanding someone who does not feel the emotion of zeal (a sense of purpose, triggered by anger from impiety). We call them cucks and mental defectives and wish a short end upon them for consuming the resources we could ourselves put to better use, or worse, furthering a negative end for merely tolerating an impious agent. Many of us exist suppressing emotions we feel toward our enemies, but in the context we're discussing all of this in, it's worth considering that another 'new' emotion may create less of an encryption and more of a 'tell', or worse, an unintended biological imperative if this emotion is to be introduced to our makeup artificially.

I do believe that women experience things like what OP is describing, emotions and perceptions that are outside the scope of what men experience, only we both, collectively as groups, understand and tolerate this pre-encoded difference, but each group member not really having the kind of true understanding that a member of the other group does. The negatives I laid out above bear out; the differences do not yield any better understanding of anything, just differences that are in some ways in competition with each other. A new emotion alone can't effect a positive paradigm shift in logic and cognition, after all, it can be said that the feminine mindset is advancing a goal that is logical given the input that women experience.

I want to ponder this more and continue, but I'll wrap this post up for now. I really enjoyed reading this thread, plenty to consider.

If you go with the assumption that human minds are like neural networks that at the most simple level stimulus is mapped to action in 2 layers. As a being gets more sophisticated more and more intervening layers are added making the mapping between sensation and action more and more complex. However, fundamentally the scope of possible "emotions" is confined by sensation and action. Emotions are low level priming of action sets in response to stimulous. Anger for example pre-activates fight actions. Lust pre-primes reproductive actions. And so on. In order to find a new emotion it would have to be outside of normal human perception or action.

This ties directly into which I think is brilliant

Men and women probably have different emotions not only because its age old wisdom that we are fundamentally and nearly irreconcilably different but also because they have different bodies. Men will never have maternal emotions. Women will never have male impregnation desire (male lust). They are emotions which are mapped onto fundamentally different organs with different functions. Women interpret male impregnation as aggression or maternal affection but it's neither. In the same way men interpret female impregnation desire as male lust but it's fundamentally different with different perception and action loci.

This means discovering a new emotion involves (1) discovering a new way to perceive or (2) significantly changing the functional capacity of the human body or (3) Projecting human conciousness into a new frame with distinct sensations and emotions yet ones that can be mapped comprehensibly onto existing human capacities.

(3) Is why I think hivemind may be the key to opening a gateway to new emotions

For example a new mathematics based on hivemind memetics may concede that 1+1 =2 is completely insufficient for describing it's enviroment. Within the idea space it may be said that 1 + 1 = 1(2(1))

Consider "love at first sight," which certainly exists.

In interviews with candid sociopaths they do not deny there ability to feel emotion only that they can choose if an emotion affects them. They have the ability to freeze or compartmentalize their emotions in the context of a greater goal. Pragmatism > feels, which would give one an advantage over another person without the ability to compartmentalize their emotions. The ability to "feel" reality when the past 100 plus years of modernity have been built to manipulate and profit off of emotional weaknesses is a novel concept. If the new emotion were able to propagate to others through posts like these it could give herd immunity from the cuckolding of the mind that progressives are trying to instill in everyone. I have been contemplating how the root of music is emotion and the simplistic repetitive tunes that dominate the charts express nothing but simple emotions. There is no room for nuance in songs that are about fucking, fighting, partying, rejection, or materialism and it is reflected in our shallow banal culture. Emotion seems more like a liability than a benefit to the west with the decay of our music, art, architecture, social systems, and standard of living. This seems like a logical reaction to that vulnerability.

If a Japanese fisherman perfects fishing does he eventually generate a japanese-fishing emotion? Think about an extreme case of soldier PTSD. An esoteric set of stimulus/perceptions activates an esoteric set of response instincts. A car backfires– suddenly he's laying prone with a cool thirst for blood and hands that desperately need to cradle a rifle. One might say this is a new emotion despite it being a composite of old emotions.

Return to the Japanese fisherman. He's seventh generation of fishing tradition. A indiscernible scent arises on a winter crisp wind. Flash of scales and a taste arises instantly in his mind. Palms gripping and the salty sea bite. Japanese fisherman emotion arises.

If this is true then emotion discovery is constant especially within evolutionary adaptation (tribal culture, tradition, and common context generation). And what we're really looking for is hyper-context.

I've been reading the entire thread and what I'm understanding so far is quite spooky. More than creating a new emotion,are we trying to bring to life a Lovecraftian entity?

Have an anti-slide bump before I go OP

Limitations are required in order to avoid immutability. God would be the canvas that paints itself but can't sense beyond the paint. God's ultimate drive with creation would be to imagine a way to see its true self. So self-discovery would be an interesting motivator and emphasizes the importance of free will.

I feel like I have misunderstood the dualism meme and created my own concept of what it means.
I do believe everything revolves around two outcomes which doesn't have to be opposite to each other. Only be part of the same set of rules.
But the expanding of dualism doesn't always end with pair numbers. You can really have a 3-object dualistic concept.

For sake of the example
Say there are only two emotions, love and hate. But that doesn't mean that those aspects are exclusive from each other. You actually have three options. Love, hate, and both.
This can be applied for everything, emotions can be traced back as a mixture of other emotions. There are those which stand the most and could be called as pure emotions, but as discussed in this thread they depend upon the reproductive organs or the way our brains are wired.

take emotions of zeal for example.
It is an emotion which will only be triggered other specific emotions.

Going autistic now, but what if we compare emotions to prime numbers. We have those "prime" emotions which can be the purest we know, and those emotions which are only a combination. What we could be doing is finding a way to categorize emotions in a sense where we find "holes" in the order. Those "holes" would be the new emotions we could be striving for.

& the topic

Lurker here, all the best posts start with that right? I have little annomitity left to spend (beautiful by the way).
If i'm following on how this would come about, In a scenario of an intelligence other than us, with necessarily created emotions for that intelligence as you claim, how could this be perceived by us? Wouldn't that make us the sociopath attempting to emulate? In this entitiys perspective doesen't that make those trying to integrate that the weed to be pulled?
You propose an emotion that has not been found in us over our existance, but when found, like a gem, will be integrateable and it's new viewpoint able to been seen, instead of simply emulating what others have been able to see from that vantagepoint. I am intoxicated by the concept, but another obvious way to achieve this, the organic hivemind, terrifies me.
Also, thank you for the first legitimatly thought provoking thread i've seen in far too long, and I wish you luck.

Also, sorry for being teh drunkposting

Schmidt is still executive chairman at Alphabet.

Amazing thread. I feel very sophisticated now.

Everyone in this thread, especially OP, should go to >>>/32/

There are many more questions to ponder…

OP, also consider your emblem with all shapes in a 3d plane encased in glass. Two small spherical bubbles intersecting each other slightly inside a cube, then a pyramid and last a greater sphere enclosing everything inside it again. Now what if we rearranged the patterns so that it goes circles-triangle-cube-pentagon, and we kept increasing the sides? What if we attempted the same thing in 3d space? Two spheres, tetrahedron, cube, and then a sphere again. But what if we kept continuing, adding a dodecahedron after the cube? By adding a dodecahedron, it starts to mimic an imperfect sphere and will continue to do so as we climb up the polygon ladder, going from a pentagon to a hexagon and so forth on the 2D plane.

Now, if you really want to fuck with your mind, imagine such shapes, but applying it to a 4D plane, like a tesseract. Every single one of those shapes OTHER than perhaps the sphere would "move", wouldn't they?

If any of you guys can do 3D modelling, I'd love to see someone try to make a .gif/.webm of the shapes I described.

Polite sage for drifting a bit of the topic of coming up with a new emotion.

Everyone in this thread, especially OP, should go to >>>/32/

There are many more questions to ponder…

OP, also consider your emblem with all shapes in a 3d plane encased in glass. Two small spherical bubbles intersecting each other slightly inside a cube, then a pyramid and last a greater sphere enclosing everything inside it again. Now what if we rearranged the patterns so that it goes circles-triangle-cube-pentagon, and we kept increasing the sides? What if we attempted the same thing in 3d space? Two spheres, tetrahedron, cube, and then a sphere again. But what if we kept continuing, adding a dodecahedron after the cube? By adding a dodecahedron, it starts to mimic an imperfect sphere and will continue to do so as we climb up the polygon ladder, going from a pentagon to a hexagon and so forth on the 2D plane.

Now, if you really want to fuck with your mind, imagine such shapes, but applying it to a 4D plane, like a tesseract. Every single one of those shapes OTHER than perhaps the sphere would "move", wouldn't they?

If any of you guys can do 3D modelling, I'd love to see someone try to make a .gif/.webm of the shapes I described.

Polite sage for drifting a bit of the topic of coming up with a new emotion.

You can´t get insight without counting on creating new memory gathering processes and how to allocate them, or you will start a exploratory lookout loop based on older perceptions (patternfinding from registered memory). Following an adversary perspective approach could help.

Well user, the solution to this Mystery takes one down the same (roughly speaking) path I went down some years back, already traveled by the likes of Dante, Francis Bacon, Boehme. An emotion is invariably a reaction of the subconscious mind to consciously perceived stimuli, causing a bubbling up, or swelling of feeling. Pythagoras of Samos once said to be capable of great knowing, one must be capable of great feeling (paraphrased from memory, in Lectures on Ancient Philosophy). This model of understanding emotion (if accepted prima facie as a thought experiment) begets several questions:
Does this mean sociopaths are more naturally in control of their subconscious self?
There is a set of common (and uncommon) emotions we all experience, what is the root cause if not genetic programming?

In my life I have had a couple, what might be called, religious experiences. That's how I would explain it to a normalfag, in truth it was a flash of understanding, in some cases with a visual. One of these was a visual of an animated sperm joining an inert egg, creating life in a flash. I saw a living cell with a glowing core. This cell divided again and again, with the core spreading itself, diffusing, differentiating, creating an aggregate life form, us. I understood each cell in our body is alive in a real sense, and yet no one cell is the core of us, we are an aggregate entity, with the parallel to the next level up being a race. Racial development is comparatively young, yet gaining some conscious awareness. To it's individuations, the "conscious" mind of the race is it's own subconscious mind, much in the same way the conscious mind of the individual could be perceived as a subconscious mind to a cell, influencing it in ways it can scarcely perceive.
Hopefully it is clear how all of this ties into the concept of emotion, and the Mystery surrounding the generation of new emotion. In the interest of stimulating discourse, I will give "my" solution:
The set of emotions we as humans may experience (and even those sociopaths have the capacity to mimic) are those within our nature, the Idols of the Cave to Bacon. To truly experience a new emotion requires transcendence (very loaded word), or transmutation to an alchemist. The "key" (does this make me your Leibniz?) is in the conscious realization of ones place in the world, and breaking the illusion of separation. In other words this could be described as surpassing the perception of limitation. How you get there is another Mystery entirely, and the key to that lies in virtuous conduct leading to purification, in pursuit of Truth. The same path Dante walked in La Divina Commedia.
t. GT

oooooo you spooked me you bastard, I was browsing through my VR headset.

i just had another 'friend' explode into a full on rant meltdown because i forgot to behave as a proper minority and accept Religion of Cuck™…

Can you explain to us how emotions relate to pattern recognition?

Which emotion do you think most people feel or at least understand when you laugh? Which emotion do you feel when seeing someone cry? Whether it is pity or sadness, happiness and joy, the reason why you feel those emotions is because you recognize a pattern, mainly the shape of the mouth making a smile or tears running down the eyes.

When confronted with a pattern, a behavior, which people are not used to, they feel out of place, nervous and some ever panic. A good example is social anxiety. Those who suffer it tend to not recognize patterns in others. They don't understand the group behavior and because of that lack of information, their natural response is that when encountering the unknown. Funnily enough, they realize that they are not in danger, besides only maybe doing something that will cause them shame. Most judge themselves for being unable to understand the group dynamics and from there tend to avoid crowds.
But this all comes down to if people learn to recognize the pattern in behavior of people, it being gestures, tone of voices, lack of eye contact (or the opposite)…

Emotions are one of the strongest drives for our behavior and actions. Pay attention to how you portray yourself to other people. Strong personalities are those which reflect a big spectrum of emotions to most people, take them on a wild ride with only a couple of words.

But what about when an emotion arises from within? There really isn't a pattern to recognize when I'm sad that a relative has died. Not saying this just to be a contrarian, I can understand an emotion coming from another person but does that mean I'm going to have the same response, or a response at all?

The best proof for the theory that "a new emotion" = "a completely unbreakable method of encrypting communications between those able to feel it" is the complete authenticity of every comment in this thread. There isn't anything approaching a "new emotion" here, but we are all inspired by something that our normal handlers (shills) cannot even remotely begin to comprehend. They are reading this thread but not understanding a single word because they do not understand the fundamental inspirations for our words.

This is really neat and easily the best stuff I've read in years. It's one of those conversations that acts like a railroad plough traveling down the tracks on one's mind. It's tearing up the rails that kept my thoughts on a predetermined path so that I have total freedom in realigning them. I love this feeling.

The best proof for the theory that "a new emotion" = "a completely unbreakable method of encrypting communications between those able to feel it" is the complete authenticity of every comment in this thread. There isn't anything approaching a "new emotion" here, but we are all inspired by something that our normal handlers (shills) cannot even remotely begin to comprehend. They are reading this thread but not understanding a single word because they do not understand the fundamental inspirations for our words.

This is really neat and easily the best stuff I've read in years. It's one of those conversations that acts like a railroad plough traveling down the tracks on one's mind. It's tearing up the rails that kept my thoughts on a predetermined path so that I have total freedom in realigning them. I love this feeling.

Also, check out my post captcha. Jst fuq my mind up OP.

Pic related is a search for "deep feelings of inadequacy masked by a desperate need for social inclusion", or cuckface for short. Does this help?

I am those who think that no two persons can replicate the same emotion/response, only really identical emotions. There are too many variables that come into play when creating an emotion.

There is, you know that you won't be seeing that person again. You will miss them. It is not that much the fact that they died, but the fact that you won't be seeing them again what makes you sad.
Same, but not so strong emotion, as when as a kid you saw your parents departing for work.


When you say a new emotion, do you mean an entirely new emotional sensation or labeling the unknown emotions we currently possess but are unable to describe due to the limitations of language? For the former, ASMR might constitute something new since, to the extent of my knowledge, it hasn't been proven to exist yet many people claim to experience it, all feeling a similar sensation. It could be just a biochemical mixup or crosswired neurons, while some of the far-out-there theories claim that it's a latent psychic/spiritual sixth sense of some type, like a more developed sense of feeling like you're being watched. For the latter, I'd say when you look into other languages they often have terms for an emotion that has no equivalent in other languages. The most memorable example I can recall being the French phrase L'Appel du Vide (Call of the Void), which is the urge one may get to jump off of a ledge with no prior history of having suicidal tendencies or a desire to "explore the other side"

this whole thread is one giant fucking interesting read. Jesus fuck, I am on the chans a couple of days, looking here and there and the quality is at like 20%…then a thread like this comes along and its at 3000%

My input would be: Have you thought how language could fit in with this new emotion? Does one just use an existing word? A new word? A mix of both? Could nouns, sounds and more create a better emotion? Could a new emotion fit in well with the english language? Which more or less is a mandelbrot to some extent?

and with that I may mean that english language, its as if it has a core (though many cores). Its a very simple language, with very simple premises. So perhaps if you wished to create something outside of this babbies first…fuck I dont know what this is…maybe we could go the way of zen…and draw new words? Let them convey more information? Some uniqueness perhaps? I just get a feeling that we are being limited by this duplo language. Yea this language is something like chess. It may start off simple, but as more actions are done, complexity increases. It must increase. But why not maybe create something like a dota? Many heroes which have different abilities but are not always played? Maybe kinda like the chinese language?

I think that language is not enough as there are things that can't be described from scratch with words.
Try explaining a blind person what color red is.

When you already know the emotion, it can be described with words, them being a "shortcut".
An emotion as a combination of patterns, will have a stronger drive if more neurons are triggered. Those "triggers" are the combination of colors, sounds, words and sensations.
For example the chans have evolved from normal words thanks to the reactions. You can now portray a relevant story only by posting an image. The reaction will be stronger thanks because first of all the size and colors are more appeasing, to the eyes/brain, than simple words, and also you will have to access memories, past felt emotions, in order to understand the reference.

thats a good point yea, artwork can also be very unique emotions. But it perhaps serves as a different kind of medium. The way I see it, the English language has a very narrow funnel. Maybe if we used a different one, or a different style. We could increase the outflow of information a bit that can be conveyed with each word. What if you create a word that is more wholesome, and can bind different emotions together? Simply put, it would be in between these little tiny black thingies that we type on our keyboards, and artwork. Maybe encode it with art styles in which the japanese draw their signs.

for example: How would you describe the emotion of "oh god, not another one of these alt right retards with their "based black friend""

or how would you describe pic related with words?

Creating to observe, wouldn't that Fourth category of emotion be pride, much like the parent proud of their child, or the citizen of their nation? Is that not why anons tend to lean toward fascism or NatSoc, because we see what love for our nation and people can accomplish when properly utilized and harnessed in a positive direction? The creation of greatness not because we want the material wealth that goes along with it, but to better ourselves, our peers, and our offspring?

A cuck.

No sure if following you as I feel you are kind of asking basics about memetics.
Memes are the portrayal of a combination of emotions, ideas. Those memes when spot on, will move the masses because they appeal to them in a personal level. Why did Pepe became so popular and why is Wodjak still a major figure in the chans?

What I think OP is trying to accomplish is helping create a new point of view, which will encompass everything, from the basics, emotions, to the overall proof and validity of that perspective. And only those which get to understand the emotions involved will get to see the big picture of the idea.
Might be wrong tho.

Quoting him.

'annoyance & disgust with dereliction of duty'
'cuckold pity-bribery'

I am just saying, that I dont really trust language that much. And maybe we could evolve a new point of view through making our shackles bigger. Language is to the largest extent our "operating system". When we are at work (I hope you arent a neetfaggot) or just away from the computer, maybe walking about. At least I think with words, though sometimes I also remember the art (our memetics)

But maybe since we have higher IQ's than the average, we could try to create a language that has more information…AND THINK IN THAT. Maybe then this pitiful language which has allowed me to convey its limitations…could create a new language with higher limitations.

That is something I have also been wondering. I remember for some years year I had a really autistic phase when I almost only thought in numbers and geometrical figures. Was not trying to think about politics but just trying to figure out a good model of overall understanding. Lots of really interesting thoughts were had and I can assure you that thinking in other things than words can be beneficial.

Dunno if a whole new language would be the best starting point, but definitively, if done correctly, can be a way to create new emotions.

This is fucking brilliant, like encryption but for emotions. You need access to the base components to decode and convey the correct message, something sociopaths can't do.

Well I read the book "the way of zen" by allan watts and in there he described the artful way in which the japs approached their language with the brushstrokes. I really have to go more in depth about that…but it is similar to the way that the chinese have a word for every thing? Let me see if I can find a good docu explaining it (and probably not get any sleep even though I have to work tomorrow, christ, fuck you fucking interesting thread)

Its just an idea though, some basic linguistic knowledge also may tell you how other languages operate and how they are often more complex than english (and therefore may operate better with us)

Yeeesh, this seems to explain it a bit


May give you better generic knowledge of what I mean. I bet the jew cannot make words such as us if we tried to lol.

the problem with sociopaths (I know I am one) is that we do feel emotions, just the same way as you do. But they just cut off if we dont want to care about them after a bit. It probably is a defense mechanism against wrong emotions (think of the jew who hijacked nurturing emotions, and turned them to niggers and other scum, its quite good to be a sociopath then)

Having an emotional wall against hijacks is just intelligence. Sociopaths have decreased function in areas like the prefrontal cortex but increased limbic system. Behavior normally associated with sociopaths is risk-seeking, substance abuse, violence and sexual promiscuity. All very degenerate, I would assume you are closer to Asperger/autism if this doesn't fit your personality. Also sociopaths have no goals other than personal gain, why be on Holla Forums? You might be on the spectrum, but you are certainly not one of those simple input/output machines many severe sociopaths are.

I echo what some of the other user's here have said, in that I'm well out of my depth trying to digest this information. However, this talk of new emotions has caused me to remember a kind of thought experiment that I have had from time to time.

It could be argued that emotions are all ultimately self-serving, with their roots as survival mechanisms to re-enforce and trigger certain behaviors in us. Empathy is probably as close as we get to feeling emotions on behalf of another being, but we aren't truly experiencing the emotions of this third party. We project ourselves onto that person/thing and put ourselves in their shoes, using our own experiences and preferences to imagine what their situation must feel like. We can be totally off the mark compared to what that party is actually feeling. When we act on empathy, it's effectively a way of relieving this emotional burden from ourselves, so it is not a selfless act if we look at it from this perspective. What would it be like if we could experience an emotion that has no links to our own self-interest or that directly conflicted with our own self interests and standard emotional responses?

Say you have one kidney and your arch nemesis has none. Under normal circumstances, you would not empathize strongly enough with this person to give them your last remaining kidney and consign yourself to death. You would actually be glad that they were in a state of demise. But what if you could experience an emotion that could compel you to act against your own self interests in such a way? Would this even be a valid emotion? Is the cause and mechanics behind the emotion irrelevant if what you feel is similar/the same as an already existing emotion? Would this just be classed as pathological empathy? Could you feel this emotion simultaneously with already existing, self-interest emotions? Can we ever truly act against our own self interest if all our actions are carried out with the goal of avoiding pain and/or seeking pleasure?

Reading this back, it kind of sounds like I'm trying to imagine up a way that we can cuck ourselves more effectively. This is probably barely even tangential to what's being discussed, but I thought it was worth throwing it out there if, by some off chance, it was beneficial.

Fug off nigger, degenerates already did this with a new taste to normalize eating people. Also kys

Pathological empathy/altruism are fascinating to me as well, user. In general I subscribe to
in the sense that empathy and altruism are biological necessities for a social group to function, and so we derive pleasure in bringing our in-group out of despair or destitution. Altruism and empathy cannot be pathological when all parties agree on the definition of the in-group, as the only result there is a social safety net.

Modern globalism and "progressivism" simply claims that our in-group encompasses everyone, and that therefore fruits of our efforts and resources belong equally to everyone else. This is pathological for us, of course, because the other members of our perceived in-group hold no such belief about us being worthy of charity.

I also don't know if that was even related to your thought, but here's a bump for epic bread

lurk. also kys

I'll make a new emotion called "Jewish subversion to transhumanist NWO" or cucked for short. Are you a little cucked? Do you need a nap

Either you are lost or the (((exotic dancer))) is just another glow-in-the-dark cianiggergoon that has somewhat dampened your senses. Since you already said that you already ditched your PERSEC, it is safe to assume that you may have been "hoodwinked" by this slut. And this slut is sent by (((them))).

Anyhow, sociopaths are antisocial; they do not give a damn about your feefees. Hence why my argument is that they are not fit for this "new emotion" thingy that you have conjured. They just cannot be arsed to do it not unless exactly needed. They may act/play the part of a civvie/citizen but that is for them to get what they need and/or want out of a person or organization. They really do not give a damn since to them what matters is their own self above others. These are the very people that thrive in the jungle and could care less about your plight. In civilization, it is near impossible to spot them (if you do not know what to look for) since they also know the value and function of rules and such. Near perfect chameleons is what I would call them.

You have and are already doing what is needed to be done. In that you feed them scraps and catfish after x, y, or z, amount of time. Tricking the algorithm and making a censorship bypass possible. In the same vein, this is also the gist of how you "redpill" the lemmings. Bait them in and let them discover freedom via truthbombs.

My concern is that you may have been talking to a whole lot of people that may or may not have been cianiggergoons and/or fbispooks. And that they may have already poisoned/swerved your way of thinking. Check yourself every time. IMHO, these fuckers know a lot about hypnosis and suggestion. They are not meant to be taken lightly. I ain't telling you what to do, just be careful and mindful about new ideas and how they came to be.All in all continue the good fight.

Have a bump.
I've always thought the innate problem in any man-made system is trying to put things in categories. That shit simply doesn't exist in nature or outside of "the world as observed by man", yet every class you take or metaphor you hear or meme you see capitalizes on it directly.
It's not my own idea, and several authors who have explored it are mentioned in this thread, but I truly believe the "dumbing down" of man is demonstrated most fully in his inability to think in terms of a gradient with infinitesimally small steps.

guys, what's cyber phrenology? anyone care to explain it to me?

Jew speak for magic

Men are capable of thinking this way. It's an overdeveloped linguistic center that acts as a rate limiter. You have to learn to think pre-linguistically. It opens many doors. Hard to communicate with our current language however. I toyed with generating a new language that was more conducive to spatial reasoning.

I think there's quite a bit of linguistic evidence for this as well, given that most new vocabulary seems to be shunted into pre-existing categories. Although I would argue that the problem isn't categories in and of themselves, they are to a degree necessary to disseminate information, but rather our over-reliance on stagnant ones.

Using collected behavioral information to target people. For example, this person searches a lot of basketball terms on a Samsung device and therefore is most likely black. This is pretty simplistic but it has become advanced enough to do things like detect a person's sex by how they swipe on their smartphone and things of that sort.

It's using patterns in web data to deduce behavior of the user and the user's demographics.

Appreciate the work OP.

I wonder if this new emotion would be something that we as human individuals could even find or understand. What if it's an emotion that can only be felt by the hivemind? What if it's something that only the hivemind can understand, not the individuals who make up the hive. What if the hive mind has already become aware of it?

Could we infer the existence and nature of the emotion based on the behavior of the group consciousness? Not directly knowing it or feeling it or understanding it, but confirming aspects about it? What do we know about it already? What aspects about the group conciousnes can we directly relate to, or more importantly, what aspects seem alien to us?


That's not even a thought experiment. Unless your hypothesis is something along the lines of "Is it possible to create a new emotion?" or "Are there emotions that 'exist', that have never been felt?" Anyway, I'm not really seeing how all of this connects. You have a hypothesis you want to test out, but how are you're actions getting you closer to this goal? If you see your thought experiment to fruition, it will provide insight to get us off the planet?

Let me see if I understand what your plan is. The actions you're currently taking (with the intention of overturning civil rights legislation) is a single step in a plan that aims to create a new emotion, which will then uncover a key to get mankind into space in a sustainable way. To me, it sounds like your trying to pave the way for some actual post-human concepts, and make them a reality.

Not trying to be a dick, but what is the point in holding back? Doesn't this conflict with your opsec? Hell, you could at least self-publish bits under a pseudonym.

Also, I'm not sold on your idea of sociopaths being best suited for understanding unknown emotions. Social behavior for sociopaths can still be pretty varied, and many people have the ability to mimic behavior in situations they don't understand. People can even mimic behavior on a neurological level thanks to mirror neurons.

Haven't read the rest of the thread yet, so I apologize if I'm asking things that you have already answered.

It will likely provide the urge and need yes, but not necessarily the capacity. Seeing that the only thing that could cause a new emotion that wide spread organically would be a cataclysmic event, as you hinted at here
Someone could create a new emotion, but it would be meaningless if that person were the only one able to feel or manifest anything from the emotion as that person would be the only one who could truly comprehend it or work within it's paradigm. You could create a bot network to fool AI and the few people working on the AI, as I suspect is your current portion of the project; but in order for it to affect humanity you would need it to be on a macro scale. Not in the online world either, but rather in real life. Otherwise it would be meaningless. This means a new sign regime entirely, built around that specific emotion. Forcing something like this to happen rather than letting it evolve organically means you're going to have problems because you're forcing a paradigm shift. You've obviously considered this, seeing as in the capstone project involves "tyrants" becoming more powerful. Also I'm interested in how Girard's theories could help with the Halting Oracle problem. I assume you mean his theories since he's dead.
All that being said, I see this as a lead up to another phenotypic revolution. Which is to say, humanity as we know it now we be no more since it will invoke and require entirely new semiotics. Which is something I personally don't want, at least not forcibly. I don't want what we have now either, don't get me wrong. But when devising and producing a new sign regime that hinges on a paradigm shift that causes a fight or flight response from the majority of the population, I'm skeptical as to the actual benefit it has. You seem to be putting all of your eggs in the basket of we'll make it through this. Which is a very dangerous basket to bet on
Not a defeatist shill, just skeptical

Emotions would introduce biases to pattern recognition, so observation and learning can be trained onto a specific focus and intensity. Technically it's more about how risk/reward functions are reevaluated, to assign which sub-networks responsible for pattern recognition should be active or dormant at that given state. To put it another way, it's one method the mind uses to manage abstractions (as partial pattern recognition is also involved with defining relationships between data).

For instance in a high stress situation where there's too much distracting information and is time critical, a stressed emotion response is triggered which places contextually low-priority pattern recognition into a dormant state. It's why you might fail to notice something in one emotional state but not in another.

Wait a minute.

The problem we have nowadays is with white men being suppressed in various ways, unable to show their anger, their righteous fury and trying to hold it in 'waiting for Hitler'. What if we base this New Emotion on one of righteous anger?

you are more than your identity

It's even easier. Just say " If you have not the son, you have not the father ".

>My book (One I've never released and will never release)
Cheap marketing technique

Answer: the LORD
"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"

Man has a soul, machine does not.

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."
It's called "free will".

The truth is hiding in plain sight. Hint: the most printed book of ALL time.

Sounds like Devil spirits

Or just new knowledge, unless you feel like associating a feeling to knowledge, which seems like a waste. Or are you just trying to do "Pavlov's dog" on the normies, which is being done anyways.

It's called coding.

Made up (((psychology))) term.

Everyone as some aspect of these traits. Fake and gay.

She means, not programmed by TV.

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Yeah, there's just so much to define with this whole project I'm not sure what OP's aiming for. Like you said, if someone did feel a new emotion how would they even begin to convey that to someone else? Maybe that's what OP's working on; a way for people to convey emotion through some means we don't currently possess as humans (i.e. some kind of post-human evolutionary trait). But there's also the issue of having to define what emotion is. Is it a physiological side-effect of bodily processes, or is it a product of our cognition? How do we know if these new emotions haven't already been experienced by people and we, again, lack the means to communicate it?

You're taking post-structuralist theory right? Like Derrida? He was a jew, you know.

If I had to guess, I could explain OP's new emotion with my own hypothesis. Most post-modernists have a general consensus when it comes to posthumans; technological advancement will play a key role in our transformation. The internet connects us as an ethereal collective, and we can exchange information to augment our cognition of the world. We can exchange words among each-other that convey emotion, but language and understanding is an often poor vehicle for doing so. As other technologies progress like AR, "smart devices", and general network speeds increase, the general population will develop a hard dependency on the internet. People joke about how "they would be screwed" without the internet, but ask most anyone and they will tell you that when they aren't able to access the internet they feel discomfort. Especially when they've lost or misplaced their phone; they'll reach into their pockets and shudder when they realize it's not there, almost like a phantom limb. Anyway, that discomfort is a normal emotion, but what will happen when we start to interface with the internet in more direct and humane ways? By "direct and humane ways" I'm referring to technologies like AR overlays and haptic feedback. That small feeling of discomfort that people used to feel when losing their phones might evolve into something terrifying and alien for people, while being connected gives us the ability to communicate better than language could ever do. That's probably when this new emotion will emerge. It's like "Neon Genesis Evangelion Human Instrumentality Project" meets "Serial Experiments Lain's The Wired".

This is where I'm running into issues when it comes to OP's plan. For example he says:
Wait, so civil rights acts are preventing tech giants from curating acceptable behavior lists for certain demographics? And he wants to lead these companies to accidentally destroy these acts? Wouldn't this be something they'd want to do of their own volition? Or is it that the protected demographics are Jews, so by destroying the civil rights acts these companies would be able to use this phrenology on Jews as well? Am I missing something here? Why would we want to give more power to these companies that, in the future, would have the ability to shape human experience via the internet? Am I missing something here?

interesting read, bump

So to that thought experiment, aren't all emotions new emotions? If you look at emotion as a spectrum that can be infinitely dug down into, any time you feel emotion is a new emotion. Better a color wheel than a spectrum really. Other then a new combination of existing emotions though, to create a new emotion, one would have to experience something novel to the human experience. Emotions are chemical responses to external stimuli or the memory of same, all of which seem to occur in the generality of humans, though they differ in the target or intensity. None are anywhere near new, the emotional capacity of human beings has not changed in recorded history. Only the way we share and transfer emotion has changed, memetics. Even the strongest psychedelics don't create new emotions, just shows them in different lights. Even on giving these thoughts though, I don't really think you can create new emotion without creating new humans, our emotions are baked in so to speak. Even if you could experience something so far outside the human experience as to prompt emotional response it would still just be a combination of previously existing ones.

Does not change jack shit that sociopaths are not prime candidates for mimicry of newly-created "emotions". Normies, bluepillers, and plebs are easily swayed by shit like that. Fads are an example of that.

Sociopaths think, the ones programmed by TV do not. I do believe you have it the other way around. And I have enough reason to believe that the (((exotic dancer))) that you "met" is no (((coincidence))). They are dumb, narcissistic, and lazy in the first place, why the fuck should you trust them? (I mean, that is the reason why they are in that trade.) Now, if you tell me that they are "wise", that is just "street wisdom" which does not benefit anyone but sluts and degens like her. All in all, a (((stripper))) that talks and talks sense is just pure irony and hogwash and your brain's alarm bells are supposed to be ringing.

You are being led astray, believe it or not. And no amount of bible verses are gonna help your crusade if you are going to be easily led astray by one of (((their))) agents. **Again, keep doing what your were doing (which is bypassing algorithms by creating false echoes that will be picked up as positive feedback (((their))) "system". And feeding redpills to people who need them and offering truthmeds to the bluepills that need it on chans.) and give no quarter.

I read the whole thread after posting that, it seems to me that if you want to create ai through the use of crowd sourced memetics, the best way would be to urge along the development of new memetic vectors. If we see memetics as a method of communicating emotion, not just on a conscious level but an unconscious level, that is, creating an emotional response in another human. Which is why images work so well, since they combine a pure snapshot of body language combined with text exposistion. Music was our original memetic vector, using rhythm and melody to pass along emotionall data into the subject. So again we seem to be stuck at the bottleneck of we have a base set of instructions that our emotional processor can use, we need to abstract our instruction set out further so that new behavior and emotion can be created alongside the creation of the vector of delivering the data. To put it in a analogy, we have barely moved out of using binary to communicate with our processors and we need to create C. Pushing our ability to communicate emotional data with less corruption, to the point where one human can cause (an)other(s) human(s) to feel the exact emotional state desired. This ties back into the hybrid hive state humanity is moving towards. The next push is truly ubiquitous instant communication; wearable, or implanted computers.

In the end though I don't share your original hypothesis that this sort of evolution is required to enter the next phase of civilization. Not only are there other methods of interplanetary colonization besides gaining FTL or comparable technology. Also there are plenty of people whos lives are dedicated to getting off this rock, and there will be until we succeed.

autism ahead
To be honest, I'm not sure where to begin with this, but we're gonna give it a whirl. My purpose in writing is to offer constructive criticism, not defeatism. I believe this to be an earnest dialogue and seek to further it.

Firstly, I think there's an underlying misconception to your thought experiment; the relationship between thought/perception and emotion. Briefly, emotions are consequences of perception. However, to understand this, we first need to explain the psychological nature of man and how he differs from the beasts. While correct, this statement (consequential relation between emotions and perception) is incomplete. I will explain this fully shortly barring extreme autism.

The defining difference between men and beasts is that which controls them i.e. emotion vs rationality. An animal innately lacks the ability to control their emotions. Consider the inability of an animal to betray their instincts. This raises our first question though: is there a difference between instincts and emotions?

Shortly, yes. Simply, an instinct is an innate desire. Then what is an emotion? An emotion is that which attempts to manifest the desire. However, that doesn't mean much to most of us so here's an example. Consider a starving animal. All animals have an instinct to eat in order to survive. However, does the instinct alone influence the animal to eat? To answer, consider yourself. You too posses the instinct to eat i.e. you have a desire to stay nourished (cause, ya know, starving is bad). But are you constantly fulfilling this desire? That is, are you perpetually stuffing your face to satisfy your desire? Of course not. Normally, something urges or tells you when you should eat. Obviously, this urge is hunger. The desire to stay nourished is ever present, yet you only act upon this desire when it produces that which tells you should eat i.e. the feeling of hunger. Likewise, the animal, who is unable to betray his instincts is not constantly feeding despite the ever present desire. The animal only acts once the desire produces an emotional response (in this case hunger) which then acts as the catalyst to action.

To summarize, emotions serve as catalysts for action. Another way to understand it is that emotions serve to manifest desires. In beasts, this process is uninterrupted, and barring abnormal circumstances, is how animals "think".

Man's difference lays in his ability for rational thought. Under proper circumstances, man ought to be controlled by his head. Consider Plato's model of a "Just" man. Man is made up of three parts, his loins, his chest, and his head. In his loins lay his instincts. These instincts produce desires which in turn produce emotions in order to influence the chest to move man to action (the chest being that which moves man to act, his will). If man was only made of his loins and his chest, he would be no different than the beasts he maintains dominion over. However man posses a head, the ability to reason, think rationally, and ultimately posses wisdom. This is man's most powerful asset against not only the opposing forces around him, but as well as the forces within himself.

Thus, we come to our original assertion, that emotions are consequences of perception. I said earlier this statement was incomplete. The full version of this statement goes as such: In a properly functioning man, emotions are consequence to his perception, meaning his perception of that around him determines his feelings to those perceived things. Further, as man's perception differs, consequently his feelings change as well. When man's perception is founded upon truth, he discerns fact from fiction, his knowledge is a collection of justifiably true beliefs, all in all his perception is PROPER, then so too will his emotions follow suit. Just control of emotions is to feel the proper emotion towards the proper thing. Hate towards injustice. Satisfaction towards good. Love towards beauty. This is the form of man.


Ironically, the ideal man, one who controls his emotions, not only feeling the proper emotion towards the proper thing, but as well as forcing his will upon his emotions as to not allow them to influence himself in an inappropriate manner, is demonized. This man is abnormal. He is to be feared. And indeed he ought to be. For he has overcome the catastrophic event known as birth.

Plato understood man as a spiritual and physical existence. Briefly, man, before his coming to exist in our material (or spatial-temporal) world, existed as spirit or soul within the realm of the forms. While in this realm, he possessed all that the forms did. Then man was born in our world, an event Plato described as so catastrophic that it causes man to forget what he already once knew. Thus, man is born as a mere tarnished reflection of what he once was.

This concept is also shared with certain religious theologies. Perhaps it's most popular conception in our culture is the idea of original sin. In proper Christian theology, original sin is that which infects every living and non living in our reality. In short, sin is the cause of death. Where death is not merely the ceasing of life, but the end of all things. If a thing ends or ceases to exist, it is infected with sin. Seeing as how our spatial temporal existence is finite, it follows we are sinful. This then finally begs the question: is man inherently good or bad?

Consider man when is left to his own devices. When he lacks wisdom, rational ability, proper discernment. He regresses into a primitive state, losing (or never gaining in the first place) that which separates him the beasts. This is the current phenomenon we are observing in post modern society. Where reason and logic have been tossed aside in favor of feelings and emotions as the determiners of all thing's value. Behold its consequences: a regression of mankind to its primitive state, a generation of men and women lead only by the desires of their crotch. Truly a cancer that perverts the individual, thus corrupting the whole. What ought the just man do?

Man ought to strive towards his form prior to falling to the corruption of the world. The purpose of any existence is to fulfill its function. And the goal of those who oppose the just man is to obliterate his path towards righteousness. Remember fellow men, remember who you were; a once perfect existence, made in the image of God, possessing the knowledge of all things that were, that are, and that are to come. Man's evolution will not be spurred by invoking some new emotion within him. If a new emotion is possible, given emotions dependent nature, it will arise when man's wisdom surpasses that of his predecessors. When man remember's the knowledge he once possessed, he will become like God: perfectly just, perfectly good, perfectly true, perfectly beautiful, and perfectly free. A destination's worth is not determined by its ability to be obtained, but by the good it provides in pursuing it.

everyone keep in mind that this might just be a shill using a very fancy and classy/badass way of describing "cool tactics to use" that are really just a complicated way of saying "do everything you already do but be less careful and lower your operational security standards for no reason at all other than to make (((my friends))) jobs easier"

What you're missing is that observations are not the same as creation. A lot of what OP is doing is trying to paint the picture of the present and future such that we can nudge it in the right direction. Tyrants will become more powerful no matter what. But if we understand how and why we may be able to engineer an escape.

Everytime I come across a brilliant thread started by a very intelligent OP, I think to myself. Either user is a true blue ascended one, a disgruntled intelligence operative that is in 'god-mode' of the world secret circles or a Man that found God's code book.

No Third Eye Blind, I'll not give you money for a rocket ship no matter how great this bread has become.

Our named emotions are tentpoles in a space outlined by our singular consciousnesses. They're driven by personal needs and prior experiences. New tentpoles in this space could still only occupy that existing area, while we may gain resolution or complexity in line with our intellect, we're still just driving deeper into that existing space.

New emotions don't seem possible until we (inevitably) break away from our singular consciousness. We already exist as a global hivemind more than ever, and we've seen the power of memes at work on this level, so I have no doubt about the future existence of these types of networks for their power, utility or convenience. It won't be until a consciousness exists in multiple physical places at once, or can combine memory and reasoning on a fundamental level between individual minds, that new dimensions or area could be added to this emotional space allowing for new tentpoles that could be uniquely defined. I really think that any singular consciousness with a social communal environment would inhabit roughly that same (ultimately limited) emotional space that we do, just as they would experience hunger or a need to breathe.

Our emotions do seem to be a range of graduated responses to deprivation of those fundamental needs, we've just evolved to map other less immediate needs onto those same response pathways, and trained those responses according to our cultural expectations of behavior. Any new senses or experiences you try throwing at us would still be pushed onto those pathways, through that old plumbing of the singular consciousness.

Beyond that point would represent more than just evolving past Homo Sapiens, it would represent a new type of intellect and a completely higher level of 'ascended' existence. I'm not trying to glorify it, it actually terrifies me, and I see no way around this eventual bottleneck for our species so long as we keep charging towards it. Borg.

OP here. Got a pile of replies to hand out.

There is some great discussion going on in this thread as people are working with the idea of the new emotion.

Last I had heard, the plan is that he is stepping down for a technical role and is serving on the advisory board, not as executive chairman.

I haven't attempted any literal geomancy on the equation. I did intentionally remove the Eye of Providence and, in return, expressed the hope that removing such an albatross can expose a new dimension to the equation. This was my way to expose a different perspective to those who follow such things… and just happen to have massive amounts of power. It's a symbol expressing the desire to reform the underlying alchemy of the world order.

I am experimenting with an idea that the symbols in our mind that represent reality are constantly competing for neural resources. Adversary perspective does, indeed, help quite a bit!

I think I understand your metaphysical approach and from a traditionally alchemical perspective, I see your points. I have to briefly don the cap of autism for a sentence: The evolution of emotion does not start with man.

My cap is off now. :D

I see the extraction of emotional data in ants when they leave behind and read each others pheromone trails. This doesn't make emotions a purely Lemarckian construct and I have absolutely no desire to even walk down that insane road, but instead, it shows how the individual is compelled to express behavior for which emotional data is encoded. It's an idea to ponder; perhaps emotions we have are standing on the giants of the neural evolution before us.

Your ears has evolved to be sensitive to the frequency range of the human voice. (This is why we consider guitars and violins so provocative, they too occupy that same frequency range)

Your visual cortex has evolved to expedite the analysis of facial expression. (You stare at a cloud and you might see a face.)

The emotional data you extract from stimuli is biased towards extracting social context from human behavior. This means the very first patterns you are capable of detecting are from the behavior of other humans. It stands to reason that these are the only patterns we can detect and patterns we find in nature, math, science, etc. happen to fall within a similar enough band of perception.

We just don't see faces in the clouds. We detect emotional data in every single sensory input we have.
Take Dunbar's number. It's a loose heuristic that explains a general limit to the amount of people you can truly “know”. It's around 300-400 on average. Anything beyond that, and people become noise. Let's say Dunbar's number was 2 instead and you know Alice and Bob. Carol comes along. Does your brain operate like a hard drive and overwrite Alice or Bob? How does it decide? What about memories of Bob that involve Alice? Is there an Alice-shaped hole in your brain now?

Thankfully, our brain does not operate like a hard drive and, instead, Alice and Bob compress into one symbol. Now instead of taking up 2 Dunbar slot, you now take up 1 Dunbar slot and Carol now has room to exist as a symbol in your mind. Symbols are infinitely lossy compressible and often compress along emotional criteria. More interesting is that while you have so few Dunbar slots for people, the average person knows 20,000 words. Quite the stunning gap, but given that symbols for humans are created based on continual behavioral analysis instead of static lines with grammar rules, the gap makes much more sense.

More damning is that non-humans can also occupy Dunbar slots. Religious symbols, corporate logos, story characters, and advertisements can crowd those slots and leave a person in a state where additional real people become noise, lost in the compression. Flooding a population to fill their Dunbar slots with rubbish is a tactic to dehumanize said population.

All of this perception and symbol management is driven very much by the drive to discover emotional data and build a social context, and these neurological structural limitations form the foundations of what patterns we can and cannot see… in each other and in nature. This is also why whenever there is a revolution in mathematics, two simultaneous revolutions kick off afterwards: Technological and financial. Technological innovation is when the math is applied to nature. Financial innovation is when math is applied to human psychology.

OP here again with more replies

A fantastic analysis, sir. Brilliant in every way.

When I say the concept of an emotion, I think of the entire system of perception limitations, neurological structural limitations, evolutionary bias, symbol management limitations, and cognitive awareness limitations that makes up the process of extracting emotional data encoded within behavior. If I try to focus on a single emotion, I very quickly find myself in a bit of a paradox: Am I describing the emotion or am I describing the word I am using for the emotion? Above, I mention that we have 300-400 Dunbar slots for people while knowing about 20,000 words. However, if I asked you to write down every single word you knew, you couldn't do it. You wouldn't know when to accurately stop. Labeling emotions suffer from the same problem, which is why I try to stay out of the realm of classifying emotions as much as possible.

I've mentioned this above, but consider the ant. It is compelled to leave a pheromone trail behind it. It doesn't learn to do this. It just does it. It undergoes some internal compulsion to drag its hind across the ground. It doesn't necessarily care or love its peers or their well being, but the behavior encodes what I supposed would be emotional data for others to digest.

We have internal compulsions to emit behavior. We also have internal compulsions to extract emotional data from the behavior of others. You might find this sort of exchange in other animals as well. Possibly even AI or aliens as well. I would argue this sort of strategy is a side effect of neurological structural bias, but I only have one planet's worth of biology to test this thesis against. :D

In this model, self-serving players can act accordingly but do so within neurologically globalized rules.

Thank you. Your concerns are very valid. For the record, I've had no intimate or physical relations with that exotic dancer. I was just shocked at my complete and total failure to realize that such a profession obviously contained masters of observing human emotion.

I agree about the flaws of categories. The universe throws the dice often and seemingly does to to shatter whatever models we've made of it.

I have looked into swarm behaviors of animals (and even robotics) and I would argue the capacity of swarm behaviors technically would fit within the realm of established emotions. We 'modern' humans rarely get to enjoy our organic swarm mechanics naturally, so I supposed we might have nostalgia for them.

time to go full autism
In Isaac Asimov's work, "The Last Question", a similar, if not identical, envisioning of a man's evolved form is present. Where man has overcome his limitations and formed himself into a supreme entity capable of answering "The Last Question". (If you haven't read it, do so now. It's a short story, takes 10 minutes)

My question is this: is such an existence feasible without far advanced technologies to help us achieve our goal of shared consciousness? And my answer is this: yes. Which of course begs the question, "how the fuck would that work?"

I'm so glad you asked, user. Let's get weird.

For our purposes, we need to conceive a philosophical understanding of the existence of God. Meaning, a definition that soars above all others, and that all other conceptions are subject to. Also meaning, now is the time to toss out any preconceived religious connotations we might have concerning the term "God". We will assume an existence we can call God does exist, and we can know of such an existence. Truthfully, this is done for the sake of brevity, as I'm not about to write an essay for a single premise that NO ONE IS GONNA FUCKING AGREE UPON ANYWAY
Luckily for us, such a concept has already been envisioned through out history.

So we now ask: What is the existence we understand to be and call God? To answer this, let's start with my man Plato. The concept of Plato's forms serves as an excellent foundation for a philosophical understanding of God. In short, the realm of the forms is the culmination of the perfection of all things. In other words, the realm of the forms serves at the least as a non spatial-temporal existence from which, according to Plato, a very important existence stems from: man.

1) Assume the existence of God is a non spatial-temporal (spiritual) realm from which all spatial-temporal (material) things come from.
2) Assume man possesses a dualistic nature consisting of a spirit (or soul) and a material body.
3) Assume man's spirit is a non spatial-temporal existence (implying man's spirit is eternal).
4) Assume man's spirit existed in the spiritual realm (i.e. God) before existing within a material body.
5) Assume man still has or can establish a connection with his original spiritual home (what we call God) through man's nature as a spiritual being.
THUS, what do we get by assuming all these things? We establish the possibility of a culmination of all human consciousness in which man actively partakes i.e. a collective consciousness.

Thus, we consider one last question:
Fucking magic, that's how. Or in other words, the power of beliefs. There. That's all I got for now.

OP here, addressing in some seriously important, observant, and worthy criticism.

Doing God's work, user

OP here, continuing from

This project will consume my entire lifetime. Your subsequent questions hit the right marks, but make a fatal assumption that appears to be collectively shared: The thought experiment is to create a new emotion, and it is natural for people to start this task with that which they understand best: themselves. Eventually, they move on to others around them, and then to the abstract masses they call humanity.

No one has considered the idea that I might also be including new emotions for that which is not human. :O

And, finally, no one has considered the idea that I might also be including new emotions for that which is not biological neurology. :O :O :O :O

Bonus points if you can tie that last part into Rene Girard's work. If I may toot my own horn a bit, it really is my magnum opus. I'd prefer not to spell it out because it is so incredibly wild that it will send anyone who reads it into a shock of anger and fury. You're already familiar with my work and influences, so I think you can piece it together and, honestly, it will mean more to you if you figure it out.

Regarding the purpose of the destruction of Civil Rights (With capital C and R), what I am angling for is a semantic apocalypse of humanism itself. The Internet has proven the uselessness of political identity since robots are currently able to pass a political version of Searle's Room. Civil Rights demands we need to start writing laws that forbid robots from pretending to be humans or forbid humans from being exposed to believable robots so that sacred identity politics can be forever in our hearts until the end of time.

These moral frameworks not only no longer reflect reality, they actively punish those who attempt to correct that flaw. “Fake news” and “Russian bots” are just shorthand for this ridiculous reaction. If you destroy Civil Rights, you give people a chance to experience the upcoming madness in a way that they themselves will inevitably make sense of instead of trying to force fit that madness into a moral supremacist “humanism” that demands we are nothing more than infinitely diminishing slivers of political consciousness. Leaving Civil Rights in tact will prolong the madness and empower the tyrants with attractive but impossible promises to restore them like it was some postmodern Holy Roman Empire. Destroy Civil Rights and humans will do what they do best: extract emotional data from the madness and find their place within it. We were designed to not only survive the chaos of the universe, but thrive in it and find happiness.

I'm basically clearing the psychological brush for subsequent operations.

I agree with this warning. My perspective of OpSec is not recommended unless you know precisely what the fuck you are doing. Spending anything is a risky task as you might not get it back. Buyer beware.

But practice often. :D

press F to pay your respects.

An addendum to:

Civil Rights could also go the other way and demand AI has rights and a soul and a spirit, but these are human concepts derived from human biases applied to that which is fundamentally not human. Meanwhile, the infrastructure that enforces Civil Right can't even materially provide for the humans within it.

Civil Rights a collective absurdity that will yield nothing but atrocity in the upcoming madness.

Please give moar. You just shifted something with this post dude.

OP, you've argued for the destruction of Civil Rights, but in such a case, it would imply the destruction of the state and possibly the UN since they somewhat hold the power to legislate "rights" and all of that. But if the corporate entities manage to survive AND subdue the populace with opiates by way of mass media and the like, wouldn't "rights" be replaced by terms of service agreements and turn into an ancap hellhole?

I know you're a Gnostic accelerationist and all, but I wonder if you fully grasp the complexities of the system in place.

Then again, it's not like the government does much for our rights either, so figuring out a way to destroy the meme of civil rights would be rather hard.

Hell, I didn't even mention that people just "know" they have rights, but can't cite said rights specifically, so they rely on lawyers and shit like that.

Also, I figured out a new emotion,every normie uses it.

The emotion one feels to check social media and spend hours browsing said sites.

The Federal Reserve prints money. When 2008 happened, they gave the banks a bunch of liquidity and swapped it for bad mortgages. If another crisis happens and the Fed goes full liquidity injection again…

… how much of that money will find its way into cryptocurrency instead of investing into nations, towns, and even corporations?

Central banks no longer have power and they know it. Their primary means of intervention has been nullified, which means their ability to affect the affairs of human outcomes is now no longer predictable for their Class A shareholders.

I'm not cheerlearing an AnCap fantasy. I'm stating the reality of the world today: Just as bots pretending to be humans destroys Civil Rights, bots pretending to be sound investment institutions destroyed the economic principles propping it up.

As I state on CultState:

That monopoly is over.

Agree with you on the sentience part, but in regards to the crypto… Why not gold? Why invest explicitly into crypto? Even then, crypto currencies are using up so much of our electricity it's starting to look really worrying, especially by 2020 or so.

Did you read too much Adam Smith? Impartial Observer etc..

oh christ. google used more electricity in 2012 than bitcoin did in 2017.

I think that shit carries possibility of death penalty independent of murder charges. A doj that wanted to could fucking slamhammer the system. But the problem goes deeper than this digital version of Cody Wilson would pretend. You don't just "burn" silicon valley because they have been unscrupulous, this just gets handled in house by Jews as another infight. Neat how he labels the Jewish question "the praetorian voice" (I honestly do like that label) but it's still skirting the issue of the massive Jewish cult of kiddie fuckers that seems all too willing to hide shit for each other. I see this as more valuable for redpills than govt action though god bless if you can get both.

When I visualized your flowchart I saw light passing through filters of perception to understanding and it made me think of the color blue. Blue is a relatively new color, orange, or yellowred, being a similar concept but perceived then renamed. Blue as a color was seen but not perceived. This may be a good framework to view as a prior expanse jumping paradigm shift.
I think that waveforms are more your cup of tea. I think what you're looking for is the equivalent of a slit experiment, but with emotion. Perception of what is and how the waveforms collapse into the reality we agree to perceive.
When you say new emotion leading to new logic leading to new science, you're describing new modes of perception. You're right, spectrum shifting a color will still allow for the pattern to be discerned (sappy videos of colorblind correcting glasses), but what of patterns that are constant (continuous hum) or patterns that "require" multiple waveforms collapsing. Similar to the topological argument above, higher order emotions are still just hitting lower order emotions with the spice weasel. You're looking for the magic eye emotion. These could be constructs, either throat singing or chorale, but the restriction remains on how to pass the light through the filters to perception. Change the objective and subjective filters. We are biological computers, this is why you haven't differentiated the perceiver, just the perceived.
Perception requires perspective. Perspective requires frames of reference. We aren't looking for new emotion, we're looking for emotion we haven't perceived. We are looking for a paradigm shift of massive proportions.
Maybe not so much Lovecraftian as Camp Wacondian.

Alright, have finished the thread, am calling LARP.


Sounds like typical academic LARP where you put fancy words around what people do organically then claim it's somehow "your" idea. Leading into


Smarmy bordering on shameless use of classic sales techniques like asking questions only to answer them immediately in a way that leads to the next selling point.
- "Am I saying I'm a Messianic nexus? No, I'm saying I might stop nuclear end times. Is that psychotic sounding? No, because my math is based in emotion which will defeat ai killer robots. Is that hard to unpack? It's all in my book which will never be published though." Leading to


This is how you trap chicks in thought loops: give them horoscopes and by symbolic association make them think about emotions and relationships for hours on end. Their brains scramble and they lose train of thought. It's why they call horoscopes "chick crack" in the pickup community.

This reads like slightly modified chick crack for the wannabe intellectual that lurks Holla Forums all day long. Talk about emotion, say that sociopaths are the key (dangle a bait that autismos on here could be THE answer to something HUGE without giving specifics) and fill in the blanks with arcane references and more breadcrumb-ish red herrings. Promise possibility of huge rewards like silicon valley going down or California going red despite no indication this will actually happen.


You say it's not important and you're out in the open, but your company doesn't even have a website, just your LinkedIn. Your picture looks too young to be working on this idea for 20 years. And your entire digital profile seems to have sprung into existence starting 2016. I don't buy you as a person at all, and surviving the twittercaust given your tweeting proclivities is not a vote of confidence even if you have "gamed censorship".


I take it back, you're just avoiding naming the Jew, leading to last point


Ok, I've got it. Super high level gaming here from deep state, but still gaming. Remember back to the Beaver poster? It led us on a bullshit intellectual journey never touching on anything truly solid until the redpill: "confederation, man!". Essentially a timesuck ending in "don't try to displace the Jewish monarchy sitting on the world's throne with a pan-global white ethnostate… anything but that goy".

This reads the same, timesuck + bullshit hopes = don't worry about all those hard lessons you learned about your white identity.

Not badly played Jews, you at least entertained me for the first three or four posts. Whoever this guy is he's pretty good, I hope you pay him well. In case he's a well-meaning deluded autist that's cool but not helping really, but I don't believe it, so I will go ahead and author a "response":


I'd like to add to this also, by playing devil's advocate and questioning why we would even need an ai in the first place. We already have aggregation of rational, calculating, cogs in the "wet-wear" "AI"( or RI I suppose?) that is already controlling the current cultural echos. That is what this board is all about. If you boil down all of our interactions they come down to a very basic Darwinian like evolution of ideas and memetic "emotions". Emotions as op has described being an instantaneous expression of patterns and understanding. We already do this, pepe is a prime example, no text just emotional imagery, and it has spread like fucking wildfire. We saw massive success with pepe, however no one remembers the shit tier meme some faggot made last year, or any other forced meme. The strong pass the requirements of our culture and are allowed to reproduce, if the don't pass they die. All of this is bringing back memories of the zeitgeist movement. Which I think is primarily flawed in it's unappreciation for what has already existed. For instance a major proposal was for the creation of an ai that would distribute resources fairly to all. The ai would handle logistics, production, and all the messy aspects of human porductive existence. Blah blah I'm sure you guys have an understanding of it already. However the point of failure in it's ideology is that nature already works so much better. The degree to which one would have to go to ensure the computer would have the knowledge to make economic decisions surmounts to levels of impossibility. However the the AI that already exists makes these considerations perfectly. It doesn't have to know to make decisions, like a computer would, it knows because it makes decisions. The emotional state of middle eastern men is echoed across the markets in unquestionable ways, this may, just an example, cause your house to go down in price next year, through a long series of converging memes, needs, emotions, and basic logical actions conducted by all players. That is the beauty of the free market, it is the closest to omniscience humans can get. The same exact thing occurs here, and throughout culture, we are the ai, we already spread the new emotion. Further more say it was possible to have such a mentally influential ai, what would stop the other side from using it for their own reasons? Just my two cents, please forgive me if I worded this poorly, just got off a 14hr shift and feeling really tired.

Isn't this guy just working for Rupert Murdoch?

I suspect he's working for Jacob Rothschild if.you catch my drift.


Emblemanon, I am the guy that analyzes the meta data from all chatter in the chans to find and catalog behavior tells from IC assets and their meddling in our business.

My question is, how to better weaponize the new GamerGate at our doorsteps ? An unique opportunity arises, I foresaw this getting out of WotC hands weeks ago.

Will read the entire thing, was banned by God knows why and took sometime off from here.

For all other anons, this take some intellectual strength to understand, but it works and it is useful.

I am setting plans to fuck up the credit score system on the West, this can not get any hold here.

Are you phone-posting, user? Because your format is god awful.

It is my new mini-keyboard, I forgot this this fuck the formatting a lot. Will make a note on paper to avoid some of my mannerisms with it.

He's not Larp. He's just an INTP. It's how they think. Scattered manic genius with a dash of paranoia.

I came up with a fairly simple idea on how to weaponize the butterfly war.


Basically the idea is to make it appear from the outside that you have a liberal roommate.

(1) Manually create some social media and google logins on a new computer login.
(2) Start a script that can "read" websites and raw text to create word association model (seq2seq)
(3) use the word association model to crawl the web using selenium and faking human interaction. The model uses word associations to decided how to follow links. (Can't processes images but that could be added later)
(4) A few weaks later you have a very strong signature for the mind that you were mimicking.
(5) Bonus: seq2seq models can be saved and traded with other anons building up a library of behavioral profiles.

This is the skeleton. Continual improvement would yield weaponized AI that can spoof any user. Imagine what you could do with that.

Sometimes manic genius gives us shit like alternating current. I don't think he's giving us anything, but here's to hope…

Nah, the dude's for real, he just theorizes a lot. The takeover of NodeJS was one of the first big SJW intrusions on tech. Oldfags remember that.

I think the hivemind is the key to the whole thing. We either get forced into a equivalent of a stunted retard body hivemind through social media and and AI curration or we learn to fucking walk and make our own.

There are a few important concepts here I think might be useful.

(1) Group survival process in the face of extreme situations is an Ontological Process. One way to achieve a frame shift. imdb.com/title/tt4635282/

(2) Mind to mind communication is real and humans are already capable of it. hooktube.com/watch?v=gvwHHMEDdT0

(3) Human intention can directly change probability and in the light of quantum mechanics this means EVERYTHING. princeton.edu/~pear/

(4) In light of 1-3 plus our current hivemind experiments I believe it's entirely possible to achieve a organic psychic hivemind, and in fact, we already are engaged in that activity. See the problem with looking for things that don't exist is that THEY DON'T EXIST. But if you look for things you hadn't noticed before chances are you'll find them already underway. The task from this perspective is to accelerate our collective awakening into a group conciousness and protect the nascent hivemind while it matures (this implies tribalism/nationalism physical and semantic barriers).

How do we (a) engage in group conciousness as an intentional practice? (b) protect the formation of the group consciousness (c) teach others to engage in this? I think memes play a role. But 4th generation information war like OP suggests also plays as role. We have to free up the raw material of the normies before we can harness their potential.

This is almost like an angelic war. We're fighting over human souls.

He says he is for real. I am partially doubting it, partially questioning what the hell he is even real about. And for the record gamergate was real too, citing it doesn't mean that I believable in everything else I say.

Yeah back to what I said earlier, you're mixing /x/ tier babble (remote viewing) with a flowery description of what we already do. What is there to it? I think it's a timesuck larp. Prove me wrong.

I really hope you do prove me wrong, I'd love Cali to go red, doj to prosecute high level Jews and glow worms, I just don't buy that it's happening soon or that buckaroo banzai is going to make it happen.

confirmed for not reading no one has mentioned that
You didn't even look at the links
You havn't read anything in this thread. It's like whatever shill or bot you are can't even comprehend what we're on about.

No one has collected the WotC evidence and presented it in one place. Trying to get anyone to discuss the facts has been aggravating. It is becoming a case study in how NOT to spread information.

< There are pedos at WotC? Wow! What's the evidence?
< I don't want to watch him talk about it, I want to see the evidence
< What evidence does he talk about in his videos? Just link me to it.
< I've been burned by hundreds of CBTS and Pizzagate videos wasting my time that never presented the evidence they promised to have. Just give me the evidence.
< Evidence, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
< Is there a pastebin?
< How about a screencap of an anonymous chan post? I'll accept that.
< So what does he actually say in his videos?
< What are the videos about? You can be vague.
< Do we have to play 20 questions to get the most basic rundown of the situation?
< Okay, fine, I'll go look… Youtube took his videos down.
< The videos are not online anymore. Where is the evidence?
< I can't do that. Can you at least tell me how many pedos were found at WotC?
< … all of this is about one pedo? The evidence against him had better be strong or else there will be a lawsuit inbound.
< Two pedos is a couple of pedos, not a pedo ring.
< Now we're getting somewhere, but what's the evidence?
< Whoa! That's a lot of pedos! Now what's the evidence?
< Not 32?
< Ok, you might not be a computer.
< What the fuck, are you just throwing out larger and larger numbers now?
< A gazillionty is not a real number. Its factors include the square root of (-1). How many of these supposed pedos do we have solid evidence against?
< One. There is, supposedly, solid evidence against one pedo. What's the evidence?

I trust that you will signal when we are meant to act; that those of us who act, will have been meant to act, and that those of us who observe and understand will be strengthened to form the next wave, and so on.

Fucking jej

I've been reading, digesting what I can and researching to fill in the parts I don't understand, and I can grok that OP is genuinely brilliant and these are deep and important concepts.

However, I think this one statement requires supporting argumentation. Perhaps it is so self-evident to OP (and user) it was overlooked, but I am having trouble accepting this premise on its face. OP's life work seems to hinge on this new emotion, so I'm humbly requesting further elucidation of how "the human impulse to extract emotional data from behavior implies a priori limitations on human pattern recognition." It seems just as valid to say humans extract that information because it's useful in social contexts and implies nothing further.

Ignore the top auto-fill mistake, boy did I fuck up.

That would make sense. It is a bit weird though; in his posts he made it sound like he was building up to a conclusion, and his conclusion of "destroying Civil Rights" didn't seem to follow from his prepositions (i.e., "This [Civil Rights] puts Google and Facebook … in a terrible position" ) Obviously at a first glance this is contradictory, and he blows over it by saying it's a trap. It could very well be, but until I connect the dots for myself I'll remain cautious about it.

Deceiving the powers that be seems like it will be quite the task. You're going up against a collective that wants to achieve their own post-human ends at our expense? I can't really wrap my head around a deception deep enough to fool a group that powerful, but we'd fail the moment we decide that they're infallible so I'd like to believe it's possible. That's what demolishing Civil Rights is about right?
Well, you're not wrong there. This all reads like a sci-fi dystopia novel, and it sounds too fantastical to be true. It sounds like you invented a worst-case scenario and just hobbled a bunch of cyberpunk tropes together. In any case, anything is possible and maybe in the coming decades we will see if shit really hits the fan. From the way you talk, you seem to think it's inevitable. Is that why you keep bringing up the necessity of space travel?
I've never read any of his work, and my knowledge of philosophy is an undergrad level at best, but I'll look into him. If it can help me gain some perspective on the breadth of your ramblings then maybe I can start to piecing things together.
I'll agree to that. Moral bondage will only cripple our ability to survive as a species if our oppressors decide to clean house. Man is a noble savage after all. Thanks for the follow-up posts, I haven't spent this much time on a single thread here in months.

Just a quick post to everything saying this thread is a LARP.

You show how naive you truly are.

The stakes of this game we play are much higher than you are aware.

There is a hole in this dream, and we must find a way out.

If you haven't, you should read Rudolf Steiner's "Knowledge of the Higher Worlds And Its Attainment"


Seems that the assumption was wrong.

Although this only goes around the expressing of emotion. The extract didn't mention anything about learning new emotions.

This is a mistake. The game is rigged - no matter how good your hand is, you're up against an Ace and a King. But that's only when you choose to play the game, which is where proper OpSec protocols come into place.

The IC first and foremost collects metadata. The most advanced computers they have access to are incapable of mass collection of anything more complex than that. This is all assuming the internet as it is at the most basic level - without any further encryption to get in the way. It takes massive amounts of tax money and resources just to support all of this, and unless you allow yourself to get put on a watch-list of some form, there are no means by which they can get a read on you.

How do you avoid playing the game? You have to maintain a distance. Unless you need one for work, don't own a cellphone - and if you do, consider that a flip-phone may be more desirable (it can be easier to encrypt with certain smart-phone apps, but it's harder to get data directly out of a flip-phone). When you're in your house, throw that thing in a faraday bag. Don't use social media. Minimize attendance in public events. Keep work and pleasure separate - have a completely separate, professional persona for business, and do everything else off-line. TOR, VPNs, and the like are not foolproof - but they can help more than harm, if you're responsible with them.

Don't ever mail anything to your house - get a P.O. Box that you go to pick things up. Use PGP encryption for all of your e-mails. Don't give away private keys and keep a tight network. You can be friends with people online, but never take the deepest steps until you've actually met someone face to face, and can confirm they're trustworthy.

Almost counter-intuitively - keep a camera on yourself when you're at work. Consider a few at home as well, mostly for monitoring outside, which are hooked up to a computer with no internet connection. It has a slight risk associated with it, but the benefit of being able to have video evidence in court should something go wrong, greatly outweighs the danger. On a similar note, consider a carry permit if one is available in your state, and make your house at the very least is well protected.

The concept of a cash free world is a meme. Physical, paper money is the one thing that's very difficult for the state to keep track of. When purchasing anything, use cash. Try to avoid purchases of more than about $80 whenever possible. Don't go through a big bank - join a credit union or other smaller organization, and do your banking through them, including your credit card (the thing you have for major purchases - and do keep a good credit). Admittedly this is less OpSec and more a matter of not getting yourself screwed over.

In short: There are a few circumstances where abandoning OpSec can be useful. When you're in a Trump-like position, with money and influence, and a public face large enough that they can't fake your suicide or risk an assassination attempt, then you can act much more freely. Having full documentation on yourself can also sometimes have benefits greater than blocking it out. But that should be the minority stance - not the majority.

The simple fact is, the more people practicing good OpSec, the better. The more people encrypting emails, sending calls through apps that help block things off, that use TOR - the harder the job gets for the IC. One encrypted message takes the same effort as 1000 unsecure messages. Don't make SIGINT's job any easier - protect yourself, and encourage others to do the same.


This is both possible and impossible at the same time.

Emotions are not independent existences. Every emotion can at its most basic core be classified as a reaction to something else. People people feel sadness, fear, and the like in response to certain distresses. They feel happiness, pride, and the like in response to certain things that they consider positives. Based on these feelings, people will then react as their emotions dictate. You can call it what you want - human nature, a biological imperative, the influence of demons, etc. But what cannot be denied is the absolute nature of emotions as a reaction.

In this regard, you cannot create a new emotion, but a new emotion can be created. This is because at a fundamental level, the answer is not the creation of a new emotion, but the creation of a new action which is capable of causing a new reaction. And even this is not so simple, because circumstances also play a factor. "A person dies" is considered a "sad" thing to many - but "this person dies" could mean sadness from his wife, pride from the young gang-banger to whom he was a 'first kill', anger from his brother, and happiness from a man whom he despised. And in all of these, a mix, along with other emotions not listed.

The thought experiment is therefore flawed in that it is missing this core. Before the new emotion is to be created, both "the action which elicits the emotion" and "the circumstances which cause the emotion to be elicited" must be defined. Once you have done this, it becomes possible to postulate what new sort of emotion is the result. Or more specifically - you would be able to look at the reaction, and in doing so, give a name to it. And that would be your emotion.

Incidentally, this is to an extent what the end-game of Christian theology speaks of when discussing Heaven. The idea being that "having left the mortal body" is the action, "absolute closeness to God" is the circumstance, and that the emotional state is something we can only approximate. Some people use "happiness" as a descriptor, but the Buddhists give a much better definition - enlightenment. In this case, the absolute and most purest form of it. Of course, even then, it's arguable whether or not this is an "emotion" or a "state" from which other emotions may be derived.


Remove the Holla Forums mod

Censorship on/pol/ is worse than any of the social media sites.


Why do White Nationalists want to kill White people who wish to meet up without them?


Why would Holla Forums ban a White meet up?

Why are Whites the only ethnic group that do not meet up and network?

Jewish networking

Black networking

Hispanic Networking

Asian Networking

Indian Networking

Muslim Networking


White Networking

White Nationalists are the cause of "White Genocide".

The node community got cucked early on, what better example than the NPM CEO.

As for github is sad and funny at the same time: they were all about meritocracy at first but then the useless golddigger wife of one of the founders got offended by the concept that people who do stuff should get stuff in return so they even removed meritocracy mentions from logos and office decorations. The funny part is that the cunt got caught harassing github employees including other woman for being better looking that her (classic!) so not only she was banned from the offices but her hubby had to step down as cofounder and leave the company

What goes around…

I agree with this, but it isn't logically connected to the claim of 'creating' a new emotion. This is a statement about identifying a new emotion(al behavior). A human simulating the outward appearance of the emotion embodied by the alien or AI would not thereby actually feel the emotion. Were the human feeling some emotions associated with the behavior, it would still be an emotion inherent to their particular nature.

If someone has an emotion, it must be for some purpose arising from their nature. Even when simulating the behaviors associated with an alien/AI emotion, the purpose for simulating the behavior must for the human arise from their nature, and the emotions they feel must therefore also remain within the range of expression inherent to that same nature. In other words, they might have some emotional pattern at that point unique for their life history, but it would still be constituted by gradients of emotional expression intrinsic to their nature. No new emotion would actually be created, not unless you've trivialized what would qualify as the "creation of a new emotion" to the point every emotion felt counts as 'creating' a new emotion.

Also weird the exotic dancer suggested a sociopath of all people could "create" a new emotion. Usually people think sociopaths don't feel at all.

You're thinking in static terms. This is what the state wants people to try to do - on the one hand they have so many means of accessing your data almost all efforts to hide one's activities is wasted, and on the other hand it is also isolating. The latter serves their purposes even more than accessing your data does - what are they going to do with it? The worst most of them will do is try to spook you out with "creepy coincidences" a la gangstalking, and there's ways to use spiritual judo to make that also work out in your favor.

OP is brilliant. Conventional OPSEC typically equates to social paralysis. The advantage for state surveillance increases year by year, especially as normies adopt new devices like Google Home and Amazon Alexa without thought. Anons should think about new strategies going forward. OP's strategy would be even more effective if it were collectively weaponized.

OP, I like your stuff. Do you have an email? I'd like to discuss your ideas further, but others may not be so ready to face death.

One would expect Google to use a near-fantastic amount of electricity, though, no?

Could you qualify these statements a bit more? It would seem to me and many anons that central banks wield immense power and their establishment has been a motivational factor for the US/UN for the duration of the latter's lifetime. Is your suggestion that the US MIC is no longer at the behest of the bankers?

I would also suggest taking a page from the sandnigger playbook and choose your home/base of operations with what I call porcupine parameters. Of course use good opsec to limit how much of a target you appear to be. Choose a location near a school, hospital, and/or housing with lots of families. Be like the porcupine, not a lot of meat and a lot of trouble getting to it. In the age of wireless internet and camera phones an assault on you could easily go viral and become a PR disaster. I assume most Anons here have the intelligence to read between the lines.

False - conventional OpSec blocks you off from social media. This is not the same thing as social paralysis, no matter how much Silicon Value would like to deceive you into thinking so. The majority of social interaction is still happening in the real, physical world, and it is there where the majority of major impacts happen.

A few ways that (You) can actively participate in the world:
1. Join a local fraternal organization. The Masons are an example but are far from the only one. These groups give you access to a very strong network, and in some cases can even serve as a second home. Military veterans can take advantage of veteran groups as well. All of these groups provide a very strong base of people - usually with a greater percentage of whites, if not completely white - who you can get to know, and perhaps even influence. They also tend to be very active in the community, allowing you to get to know even more people.

2. Organize events with your co-workers. Go out and do a bowling night together or some other inane thing. Go out to the bar. Hang out a lot with people that you find match you in some regards. Influence them. Use a higher position in a company - or just start a business yourself - to have an impact. Let someone else manage social media/PR stuff, and keep all contacts to yourself done via business e-mail and the like.

3. Work at a university. Research and instruction alike are both good places for someone to hide themselves away while still getting a lot of good work done, and having a lot of people around they can influence. Research is also nice in that it gives you the chance to look into things and get them published where your name is just one of many, allowing you to blend into the background, while your work is free to live on its own.

4. Church. Self-explanatory, applying the same concepts from above.

Unless you are planning on pursuing a career in politics or to become a celebrity, you do not need to have a public image. This is not social paralysis - it's social liberation. Maintaining a fake image of yourself requires extra work. Keeping your true image clean is nearly impossible if someone really wants to spread dirt. Not having an image at all, and merely letting your work speak for itself - or better yet, influencing other people to spread it for you - is the ideal you should actively be striving to reach.

And if you are planning on going into politics? You're going to want to keep all of that shit bottled up inside, leaking out only what you need to steal yourself an election. Play it the way JFK did - and try not to let yourself get blasted in the same manner. You probably will anyways, of course, but only go about handling that shit when the time comes.

The idea of security causing isolation and social paralysis is a meme. If you actually take more than a few seconds to think about it, you'll come to understand that good OpSec doesn't block you off from doing absolutely anything that a reasonable person wouldn't be doing. The very worst thing that can happen is that you don't know about whatever meme happens to be circulating around on Facebook that people are sending each other - and if your social skills are so poor that you need that sort of crutch, you're not going to be able to help the cause much anyways.

True. I would be loathe to advocate it myself, since I prefer a rural environment, but doing that certainly does come with a lot of advantages. And gives you a lot more options with your neighborhood, should you choose to pursue that. Being a good neighbor and all.

Why not cypto? It's basically an energy credit representing the collective human endeavor required to turn an energy source into information which is the defacto currency of power in our current era.

I believe what you're gunning for is not creation, but rather re-creation.

The basics of higher learnings begins with a simple concept, emotions = energy and by emotions, we are set free and enslaved totally. But what are they? The fedora will tell you that they are base chemical reactions, just small blips of electricity racing across a meatbrain and down through the rest of the sac of meat. And while that is how the body manifests emotion, emotion is a little more than that.

We are familiar with the word demon. In higher learnings, demons are negative emotions (unrighteous anger, sadness) that haunt us. And when we feel such emotions, we act in a way that is not normal protocol. In a way, someone who is suffering from depression could be said to be demon possessed. This harkens back to Medieval times, where mental illness like schizophrenia was considered demon possession. In modern times,the assertion of demonic possession in the place of mental illness is laughably outdated. But from this perspective of understanding (demons = bad feels), then the old fashioned thought still exists, it's just under different terms. (And we know about the power of language from the Oera Linda Books, language = culture)

What is the purpose of a demon then? As it turns out, the demons are specifically set up in the system to prevent the rise of a God figure. Which seems contradictory to the current system of evolution (atoms -> molecules -> chemicals -> minerals -> bacteria -> plant -> fish -> reptile -> mammal -> ape -> human -> the white man -> beyond), which is one that fosters unending and unlimited growth. To some, the purpose of demon would be to create a negative feedback loop (Despair Code as the meme is called), which would lock the victim in a trap and drain their loosh. To use the human as a battery so to speak. While the system is good, there are outside forces that will act within it.

But what about the positive emotions? Jealousy, ambition, confidence, etc.? If we are familiar with the concept of a demon, then we call these angels. Where as the negative emotions will lead one to the negative thought feedback loop, positives will lead one to a feedback loop that fosters growth and truth. Much like demonic possession, angelic possession will make you act in a way that is not part of your norms.

But why would the system have positive and negative emotions? Another basic concept of higher learning is "The Strong Force Eats the Weak Force (or more accurately, The Positive Eats the Negative)" The strong will always beat the weak. It is in the nature of both. The strong will always defeat, it is in the nature of the strong. It is the nature of the weak to always be defeated. Treat it like a test, if you are devoured by the evil, then you were weak. If you overcame, you were strong. If you were trapped in the cycle of samsara, you were too weak. If you escape samsara, you were strong enough to overcome. The system fosters strength, but you must strong to use it and overcome. (For what it's worth, even in the event of total white genocide, the world would keep spawning white people. It's going to be hilarious shit when the muttbreeding results in people with white traits being considered beautiful, so the beautiful people keep white traits going. Which results in mutts getting less muttier as time goes on. Even in the event of total kike takeover, the inherent rebellious nature of man will destroy their special crystal castles, assuming the kikes don't kike themselves. gg kikes, you stupid fucking demonic possessed idiots. Your whole race is nothing but demons masking as men.)

So the emotion you wish to seek OP is not one that has yet to be created (as the emotions themselves are from beyond space and time), but one that has been forgotten by humanity. And I wonder (((who))) is behind that forgetting? And I wonder what language the gods themselves spoke.

I'm certainly not proud of it but there comes a time when all one cares about is the eventual victory and attaining it by whatever is necessary. Even if distasteful. I placed myself in rock throwing distance of all three. I think it's helped in my outreach endeavors to an extent and I feel a tad safer. We have been focusing on education and a positive campaign for our people. Since neither myself nor my men are doing anything illegal, aside from the apparent ordinance against posting fliers without a permit nor have we grown to double digit numbers yet, I don't think we're an appealing enough target. yet One should always be proactive and make contingency plans.

I would argue that he might not be looking for either but rather the encryption of an existing meme into the behavioral matrix of mankind.

So expression is hardwired, but so is reading that expression (it's been bred into domesticated dogs, certain mental conditions can inhibit the ability to read it.)

I'd appreciate OP or user explaining how these skills and behaviors imply boundaries on pattern recognition.

What you've suggested is fine for conventional approaches to politics, but they are naturally limited as conventions. They are predictable and controlled. And if an user were to start having a substantial effect through one of these avenues, they already know how to shut them down.

We're talking paradigm change. Going from shying away from being recorded, to making those records work for you. The use of data for punitive control and expropriation is a 20th century mindset. Most niggers are stupid (

This thread. But I'm wondering if it's not the creation or rediscovery of an emotion that you are seeking, but a new type of emotional vehicle? Expressing yourself on a level that we can't (currently) detect or affect would attract attention from whatever can sense on that level. Always keep yourself positive when working with the unseen energies, you don't want to trap yourself in a kike level demonic pact that forces you to drink blood and commit pedo acts just for the barest iota of power.
Let us all find glory where and when it's needed most.

Yes and no.

Doing this on an individual level is effectively meaningless. It's a greater amount of effort for a lower amount of reward on a persona level. In terms of facilitating secure connections, it's nearly useless. And yet, you are correct in stating it can be used as a sort of civil disobedience - but not in the way you're proposing.

If you truly want to poison the well of data collection, you need to not merely make some of the data bad, you need to make it such that all of it appears to be bad. Once data collection takes on the appearance of being meaningless, it loses much of its value. In this case, a carefully cultivated fake persona shares value with a shoddily thrown together one - and is of much lower value than mass produced ones.

Effectively, if you want to weaponize this, the answer is here:

Except taken to the next level. Not merely one "liberal roommate", but the creation of multiple fake personas. Envision, perhaps, an artificial intelligence that can use just a name and perhaps some images skimmed from Facebook to create fake people by the dozens. Ones that an attentive human could tell were fake, but would appear to all algorithms as real. And then the next step - making this known, while leaving no way to stop it.

At that point, once it becomes known that data collection is a poisoned field, its value begins to drastically lower.



The idea is defeated the moment you consider that real life activity would be used to correlate online ones to validate data. That's why they absolutely love smartphones and IoT smart technology and want to implement 5G. You can also find indirect ways to correlate data validity, like using Google Streetview in conjunction with other data sources to predict an area's voting demographic (which was done by Standford University with an AI). That makes identifying data poisoners or suspicious people much easier.

For instance the moment facial recognition software on a surveillance network notices a fake online persona not corresponding to a real person's activity, they can immediately figure out that the data is poisoned, and focus their efforts to figure out who or what the poisoner really is. To truly evade such a measure would require intimate knowledge of the target's habits and timing activities just right. In that case another approach would be infecting target devices with AI viruses which generate poisoned data by spying on the target and mimicking their behavior while doing so. Bear in mind the government and corporations could do the exact same thing to humanize AI shill personas almost flawlessly.

OP here again.

The skepticism of the Chans is what I love the most. Masks within masks, schemes within schemes… the person behind it all might as well not exist since all that matters is what is within the text and nothing more. The natural gnostic impulses that arise in such an environment are something I would like the world to have, but that's a lower priority goal of mine at this time.

I have been told many times that I'm a natural storyteller. It's useful and fun, but it helps you understand that showing people something new isn't as simple as just typing text and dumping it on a screen. People need to think about what is going on here and, most importantly of all, explore what they discover on their own. I can't hold everyone's hand all the time, I can only reveal insights that move things along accordingly.

I'd also recommend a deeper dive than what you found as my internet presence dates back to well before 2000. It's not surface level stuff, but with some elbow grease, you can find the good stuff.

I certainly do appear to be doing that.

If a house is on fire, I say "Put out the fire!" and people will scour about, looking for heat and flame to douse. They can successfully put out the fire, but they have not changed how flammable the house is. To safeguard against future fires, one would have to be eternally vigilant. We have all kinds of tools and mastery of science and cameras and people everywhere, and still fire spreads quite regularly. Fire isn't even intelligent and eternal vigilance still can't prevent the house from occasionally burning! Dumb fire is already a problem, but now imagine a fire that is not only intelligent, but charming, seductive, adaptive, cunning, silent, and ruthless. That kind of fire is going to be off-the-charts impossible to stop.

As you might be able to deduce, I am talking about the ancient meme of usury. Once unleashed, it is contagious and it is all-consuming. It is subtle and magnanimous at the same time. It burns out everything it touches and even those who were harmed by it still resurrect it over and over again and have done so for 5000 years. The tribe has codified this cycle into their religious doctrines; a sort of primitive but effective form of civilizational alchemy.

You can say the house is on fire as much you like. You can stamp out the fire where ever you see it. You have offered nothing to reduce the flammability of it all. When I have done what I set out to do, we will be able to run from the fire. Usury has no power when there are no humans around to enslave.

A good reading of Dune will crystallize a hidden trap within such hopes: Every technical savior contains a bottleneck which a new elite use to lord over the rest of us. It's a trap I desperately seek to avoid and, as crude as it sounds, Leto II provides an excellent framework on how to ensure a mass scattering. The Devil, of course, is in the details since I am all out of worm-derived psychoactive neural enhancement drugs. I guess I'll have to make do. :D

Think of a pig. Now thing of a slug. You have perceived these things before. Now fuse them together. (A slig!) You've never seen a slig before. Did you perceive the slig or did you invent it, independent of perception? As far as I understand your usage of perception, you are inferring to the data you perceive from your senses, yes? In either case, a behavior was emitted and encoded within it lies emotional data.

Can you clarify what you mean by perception and how that works with the symbols in your mind of things you've never perceived? I don't mean to dismiss everything else you mentioned, but it appeared derivative of perception being an agreed upon shared definition between us.

OP here, literally can't stop sucking dicks, etc.

I believe you may find the bottom part of to help clarify a few things. Lemme know if that's inadequate.

It helps to understand the history of powerful people. You'll see how they fail over and over again throughout history. Often, they themselves are trapped in a cycle or power they did not invent and cannot escape. The truth they loathe is that power is a circle. The deception they are susceptible to is that power is an escalating line.

Civil Rights provides no meaningful solution to AI or robotics or new emotions or posthumans other than a militant "tolerance" that deliberately eats away at financial foundations of a nation espousing those ideals. It only sees reality in terms of political identity. It is myopic and inadequate for what is coming.

It's a shame you aren't currently able to piece together the Girard play. You're sharp enough. I suspect you'll get it in time. I have left many, many clues and alluded to it fairly heavily.

Pretty solid OpSec advice here, thanks user. A caveat to consider: The metadata is recorded. The ability to sift through it will improve over time. Roko's Basilisk might not be a real thing, but if it is, it will have a national security common ancestor first.

Central banks feed primary dealers. Primary dealers control loans. Loans control businesses. Businesses control employees. Employees control consumption. Consumption controls profit. Profit controls interest payments. Interest payments controls primary dealers. Round and round we go.

If that consumption part falters, central banks inject money to primary dealers who invest in cryptocurrency instead of the above cycle. And if a law is passed that forbids that type of usage, primary dealers invest in businesses who, in turn, invest in cryptocurrency instead. And if a law is passed that forbids that type of usage, businesses invest in employees who spend that money on cryptocurrency instead of retirement funds that can be inevitably put back into the cycle. All three tiers allocate funds away from consumption and into crypto.

Yes, everything is still in tact and people are playing by agreed upon rules. When the next ground of bailouts hit, crypto is going to significantly cripple the central banks ability to influence this cycle to the point of uselessness. They're dead men walking and they're doing everything in their power to prevent the next bailout. They will fail in that effort.

You're very close. I recommend reviewing Rene Girard to get some more context on this particular train of thought.


Five parts, worth your time.

Even closer! :D

I've been invited to join Freemasonry on four separate occasions. The kind that bankers join. I refused every invitation. Your warning is sound.

As emotions are dual in nature you would have to invent 2.

Whatever you've done OP is amazing, and I'm not talking about the fact this thread's making my brain itch. There are (as far as I can see) practically no shills in this thread, that's almost unheard of lately. The fact that they're staying away, even with the JQ fully exposed is pretty awesome. I'd like to personally thank you for your service and wish you the greatest of luck in cracking the fourth wall of this planet. No homo.

Emotions are not dual in nature. They're 0 X not -X X

> Still can't name the Jew, wont say gtkrwn ever

Never mind I don't think you're a shill, I think you're a mental who gets his rocks off wasting the time of Holla Forumsacks. What a sad life and I would know the difference.

Lol. Shills can't even comprehend.

Can I get a tl:drt?

Still getting up to date here, but will reply to you. There are shills here, IC assets, they are the most refined shills I've seem lately. If you are like me or emblemanon, you can spot them. The low quantity is because the other shills are out of they depth.

Emblemanon is a few deviations higher in IQ then most of Holla Forums and is waging cyber war more effectively, with tangible results and gave the deeds. The deeds are still fucking hard to grasp for anyone.

Again, this ain't spoonfeeding style of thread, you either got be a generalist in the tech world and have some know how or a bright user at your field. I have tangible results from the previous thread and am implement new stuff as of now.

You just got to research the shit you don't understand whatever you don't.

Mimetic warfare is evolving in ways that are predictable if one knows where to look and this is happening in a way that the power elite are blind to or otherwise powerless to stop. This process will likely be as transformative for mankind as the previous great wars were but the power elite are trapped in a program that has no way of stopping and their inevitable collapse into tyrants will reawaken a primordial emotion in mankind that will push us off this planet.

Even shorter: The Kali Yuga hasn't even begun yet, but its coming, and we'll need a mimetic superweapon to survive it.

This is a jack pine cone. The jack pine cone can survive forest fires. More than that it depends on them. Once all is burned it bursts open and the seeds take root among the fertile ashes.

The pineal gland is symbolically related to the pine cone.

I've long dreamed of a memetic ark. A societal pine cone. A unified physical social linguistic and technological unit that can survive the fire. And more than that thrive. A memetic superweapon can only be rationally and therefore believably and therefore effectively deployed by such an ark society.

Fo sho. Perception, in my usage in my text, refers to how a person thinks. Not the particular act of sensing or observing information, rather the structure of a person's mind that then interprets that data. Perceiving, psychologically speaking, is the act of interpreting data. A less formal way to put it is that perception is simply the way a person thinks. Consider two people staring at a cloud. One person thinks it's a pig, the other thinks it's a slug. The cloud is an objective piece of information yet the individuals' interpretation of said cloud differs. The way one person sees and thinks about the cloud differs from the other. The phenomenon responsible for their differences is their perception i.e. how they think.

This applies to emotions as well. Consider the difference between an user and a normie when viewing gore. The normie most likely will be repulsed, feeling disgusted. user on the other hand will feel no such things. This is because of how their interpretation of information differs.

So to reword my previous text, emotions are consequent to how we think. Thus, if you want to change how you feel about something, you have to change how you think about it. Further, if you want to feel something new altogether, you have to think in a novel way. Developing novel ways of thinking, by nature, takes priority over feeling new things or experiencing new emotions because of the relationship I've described (emotions consequent of thinking). Therefore, I believe in order to reach your goal, you ought to refine it under this understanding.

There are clear examples of how the different ways people think can lead to encryption. For instance, anytime you have to explain a word to someone they don't know of. By having a large and versatile vocabulary you distance yourself from those you would not want to understand. Of course this is just an example and not the end goal.

A more accurate example to highlight the disconnect that occurs between individuals would be "le current year". Here we have individuals who's thinking are so devolved they literally cannot comprehend the arguments presented to them.

This leads into a question I have for you concerning your methodology. Why are you focused on the fight or flight mechanism when doing so is counter intuitive? Your end goal is progressing man, to further his evolution. Yet, the fight or flight mechanism is a primitive function in our being. It's akin to wanting advance technology by reverting back to using rocks as hammers. So again, I think you might have a faulty premise or two concerning human nature.

As I said before, man's purpose to is refine and use his gift of intellect and rationality and by doing so he will be able to overcome the obstacles and limits inherit within himself. The goal of the opposition is to stop this at all cost. Consider Franz Boas' and other jews involvement in the destruction of modern anthropological study. Or the secular church within psychology spearhead by Freud and the jewish psychoanalytic movement. When one has the ability to question what they're told they become uncontrollable. Thus, (((their))) goal is to literally prevent man from doing so.

Isn't there a higher "feeling" than intellect and rationality though? When touching upon fundamental truths, don't you feel that floating, energizing, full body feeling? Isn't that considered outside the bounds of mere intellect, perhaps touching the boundaries of what truly is?

I should point out OP is a self admitted former commie (read his webpage). I say this to illuminate some biases in his thinking. He's still brilliant and his ideas worth a lot of consideration. His long love affair wih communism means he's fundamentally distrustful even antagonistic to power. He may have realized communism was a scam but he has retained his deephate for power inequality. This explains his flight fixation. Equality can only be reliably sustained by constant dispersal.

Yes. Intellect is limited by and enslaved to emotion. Even the most brilliant is enslaved to his basic nature and motivations. Finding new emotions means new motives related to new environment and new potential actions. It means ascending the human perspective. The highest feat of intellect may be to defeat itself and lay itself in submission to reality. This means what we are doing is bridging heaven and earth.

Again cultivating organic mind to mind capacity and the hivemind is probably the bridge.

Replying here since it's last post concerning how emotions work. user is correct in asserting that emotions are not dualistic. In psychological theory, its currently proposed there exist what are called "base" or "basic" emotions (I believe there's around 5-10 labeled ones) and all other emotions are mixes or variations of these bases. Whether or not that true, beats me. The topic I'd like to address is the idea of dualistic emotions.

Basically, while some emotions may seem to be dualistic in nature (such as happy and sad), thus some anons are thinking creating new emotions must come in pairs, this is no more than a simple misconception caused by improper terminology. The proper way to label the apparent relationship between inverse emotions is that they contrast one another. Basically it goes like this, happiness feels super good when you've been really sad and vice versa. However, could you be happy without ever feeling sadness in the first place? Of course. Emotions are mere feelings that are caused by either desires or our interpretation to our self and our environment.

The dualism concept arises from Aristotle's theory on virtue (not emotion). He described a virtue as the mean between two extremes e.g. love would be the mean between obsession and apathy (this is just an example, not necessarily true). Thus the confusion occurs as many virtues, especially in post modern society, get labeled as emotions, such as love. Thus this debate gets triggered by association.

All in all, I'm just trying to clear up and possibly explain the misunderstanding that seems to be going on here.

Hey OP, considering the concept of emotion is a primary focus for you, it would be beneficial to provide an operational definition of emotion to prevent anons from making student arguments with each other over simple misunderstandings.

Which is why anyone attempting this has to have destroyed all their own blackpills, like attracts like.

I was bluepilled in my youth too. It's the search for truth that leads us here and further.

No. You're implying here that intellect and rationality are "feelings" which is clearly not the case.

I sure do.

And finally no. In just your previous sentence, you stated the very relationship I've been describing. Why do you feel that joy and satisfaction? Because you're using the ol' noggin and trying to get to the bottom of things. So firstly, again the emotional phenomena you're experiencing are caused by your thinking or thinking about something. The conception of these feelings being "outside" intellect is inherently wrong as your experience is directly caused by your intellect.

That being said, what you're experiencing is not wrong by any means or stretch of the imagination. In fact, you're experiencing the benefit of fulfilling your function. In classical Greek philosophy, one of the end all be all questions was "what is the good life?" or in other words "what is our purpose?". And generally the first answer to that question is to be happy. Thus, how ought man achieve his happiness? They reasoned that man would achieve his best happiness by pursuing intellectual refinement and a search for objective truth as his ability to do so belongs to him and him alone (that is the beasts do not posses the ability to discover truth in the way man does). So to say we experience a feeling above mere happiness or satisfaction when touching or reaching fundamental or difficult truths is our reward for doing so. We achieve a pleasure derived from intellectual bases rather than physical. So to conclude, these higher feelings are not outside of intellect or beyond it, rather they are the benefit and consequence of fulfilling our purpose of refining and progressing our minds.

I believe (as I suspect OP does as well) that it already exists, or rather that much of it has already been built for us by wise men across our history. All that remains for us is to assemble it and find a way to power it. If OP is correct we're looking for something along the lines of a "swarm escape" meme that can be encrypted down to an instinctual emotive level. I feel that there are flashes of this meme throughout history, like the Christian "Fear of God" and the Buddhist "Escape from Samsara" but that it so far has only merely displaced us and never quite hit the critical limit we need to truly escape.

The Gérard play seams to be resolving mirror desire contests though scapegoating. The foundation of this resolution in the west is the innocence of the scapegoat. The scapegoat dissolves the mirror desire standoff. Humans ate trapped on earth mirroring desirea for earth. I'm guessing this means we either sacrifice ourselves or a symbolic stand in order trigger an exodus.

If a swarm escape instinct exists we should be able to test it on a small scale.

I have a problem here
Emotions, as we try to understand them today, are based upon a neurological reaction happening in different parts of our brains. Although they might happen in different brain locations they all narrow down to a response to external phenomena.
Take happiness for example, the source of the emotion is irrelevant to this case, but the concept of the brain creating a neural reaction to which the body responds in a positive way. By that I mean it being relaxed and not entering a state of fear or pain.
The issue is, different emotions can be trained to react to different situations. An example of trained emotions would be fetishes. Some people are attracted to normal heterosexual sex, others not. There are some who even enjoy getting shitted and puked on. All these positive responses to things that for many might be disgusting could be argued that were trained.
This puts into perspective the real nature of emotions. Most people might be able to feel all different emotions, but that doesn't mean that all emotions depend upon the same situations.

This brings me to that concept of dualism which has been discussed here. Emotions are dual in the sense of whether you feel it or you don't, but if you aren't feeling happy, then you are feeling something else.
The emotional state of a person is dualistic, but the different emotions do not depend from each other in a dualistic manner.

You faggots have derailed this thread into talking about emotions and navel-gazing. There hasn't been a useful post in days. Go be faggots somewhere else.

What you need to be doing is creating brand new social media accounts and larp as a kike, nigger, mudslime or spic. Use it to fly under the radar and add other kikes, niggers, mudslimes and spics until you start getting advertisements (yes that means no adblock) aimed for those groups. Then you start dropping red pills.


If its something that can be so easily started and stopped for small scale testing then all we'd be doing it handing our overlords another way to control us. I suspect this is something along the lines of what was saying about "civil war-as-a-service." Either scenario is one we should avoid.

OP here

We have a winner!

For those who aren't familiar. mimetic isn't a misspelling of memetic. Memetic describes the ways in which units of culture propagate. Mimetic describes the capacity to emulate behavior.

And since the very core of our ability to emulate behavior requires the extraction of emotional data from behavior, the concept of a new emotion expands our mimetic capacity, which in turn transforms all of the factors discussed here and here

Ergo, I am trying to develop a mimetic superweapon. Now with that very important context firmly in place, look back at all I have done and left behind over the years and connect some dots to see where this story goes.

Civil Rights forces us to think in terms of a fixed set of dualistic human emotions (an extremely poor model that intentionally inhibits human potential) which is why I require it to be cleared from the operation space. Sadly, it will return again in the future, but during its absence, I can get a lot of work done.

I have refrained from inflicting pedantry upon others in this discussion, but it has to be done at some point and I have chosen you to be the sacrificial goat. :D Sorry in advance and I do not wish for such line-drawing to dominate the discussion going on.

Thanks for the breakdown. I use the word “cognition” to describe what you are calling “perception” only because it houses the process we are describing within the mind while “perception” often infers the boundary of the mind along which senses interact. I think we are now on the same page.

Yes, altering the direction and focus of cognition can change how we encode emotional data into our behavior. But even with a finely tuned focus, we still often encode emotional data into behavior that occurs beyond conscious cognition. Heart rate, eye blink frequency, sweating… these are behaviors you emit without your distinct conscious approval and they do encode emotional data into the behavior they generate. Sometimes, they even betray our cognition without us even knowing it!

The fight or flight mechanism is, indeed, ancient and very suppressed as of now. In our current world, the operating paradigm is “fight or capitulate”. You either engage in self-balancing violence or you intentionally serve who can inflict violence upon you long enough in the hopes you get a chance to engage in self-balancing violence against them. As correctly revealed here , I am an ex-Marxist. I'm not a communist and I never was. I saw how their child-like worship of easily-digestible revenge fantasies turned them into the type of animals that ironically justified their bondage. I was the mathematical type of Marxist, the kind that could recite the influence of Gresham's Law on Das Kapital or could explain how gold distribution throughout the British empire paradoxically limited their imperial ambitions. (The more land you conquer, the more gold you liberate, the more available gold becomes, the cheaper gold becomes, the more gold you need to pay for a conquering army, the less land you conquer, and eventually, you settle for geopolitical borders because that is as far as your purse could take you) I never believed in infantile narratives like the rich vs. the poor. I always believed it was the rich vs. the rich and the poor get suckered in. I still do to a degree, ergo, my concern for the “fight or capitulate” model.

If ethnostates and tradition and cultural preservation are your imperatives, “fight or flight” is not only a way to establish them, but a way to ensure the powerful you flee will never enslave you again. I want a planet dedicated to some weird SJW Marxist interpretation of twinkies. I want a Holla Forums planet where the economy is based on how the descendant of Tay values a shitpost. Whatever works works. When I look at the stars, I can envision millions of civilizations too busy scratching out a living upon extremely harsh conditions to invade one another. Your enemy will become nature itself, and the only way to defeat it is through each other. In doing so, the human condition is restored to a domain it excels at: interpreting the very edge of chaos.

Progressing man is a linear trap. Progress is always circular and we rotate who pays for the sins of everyone else. Civil Rights is a highly efficient means of managing this rotation, but I no longer have any interest in pretending circles are lines. I don't think any of us do.

OP again, OPing OPingly.

Since 2005, I have been working on how to define what an emotion is. Every definition I've come up with is non-axiomatic. In every scenario, emotions were ultimately background dependent upon neural evolution and more recently, I am of the belief that emotions reflect the epistemological limitations of neurons themselves.

All that I know for certain is the behavior we emit has emotional data encoded with it. As close as I can understand it, emotions are the coder/decoder of behavior. This cleanly separates behavior that is more limbic (recoiling from pain before it even gets emotionally registered) from behavior that is more social (dancing) while showing that emotional data can still be encoded and extracted from both.

I know how to encode the escape meme at the instinctive level. It's not pretty, but it works. That's one part of the plan, yes.

A noble attempt, but too close to the surface. Consider all I have said about a new emotion and ask yourself: What else has emotions?

An important insight.

Most people don't utilize tactics just because they are inventive. They must understand why the tactic works and when they have had their souls moved by that reasoning, they will be able to adapt when the battlefield evolves. While this all appears to be navel-gazing, we are going through the process of ensuring individual actors in this conflict can be sustained almost indefinitely in isolation.

It seems like from how you've defined it everything human comprehensible has emotions encoded.

Had missed the archives, just read them and finally I understand why this all is important.

What happens after Silicon Valley bites itself and takes the Civil Rights down?
By writing all of this you are pretty much explaining the next step, but as in your blog you seem someone who only explains after the damage is done or is drunk.

What do you think of the Muttmeme?

The fact we are being watched means we can't lay everything out in detail except what is too late to stop. Silicon valley is fudged. What comes after wil be intuitive or easily explained given the common context being established in this thread. At that point the next exploit will be too late to prevent. Our enemy suffers from low adaptation speed.

The book New Age Versions is good too.

nigger what

Everyone knows 18 million died, just don't forget the 24 million in your prayers. Perhaps next holiday season you can donate to help provide 40 million headstones to cover the land where 60 million were gassed.
bumping because this thread is comfy.

Good thread OP. Have a bump. This is all worth reading.

The holocaust didn't happen but should have

Happy's the inverse to sad, Anger to joy, disgust to delight, seriously annons this is babby level thinking. Also, OP writes like a larping pajeet.

Capcha proofs. OP shits in the street.

I've been reading through OP's website, interesting read.

How can the media be expected to cover trivial stories like libor when Trump is drinking water with two hands? Get some perspective bro

Someone archive this thread before its slid to shit.

The only political position Jesus explicitly endorsed was Caesarism.

holy shit.

This is actually really exciting.

Thread archive.

Criminal defense user here… you say that this will destroy Civil Rights legislation, but you seem to be ignoring prosecutorial discretion – i.e. DAs simply never prosecuting these cases despite there being violations of the law. Given that Sessions has already shown himself to be largely neutered and incapable as head of the DOJ, what makes you think local DAs will bring down any real consequences on Silicon Valley that would spur Congress to begin repealing Civil Rights legislation?

You are placing a great deal of faith in our legal system, which apart from the Supreme Court and a smattering of competent Federal appellate judges recently, has revealed itself to be little more than a tool of the left in every case with political implications.

Because jews always double down. Jews will start to kill their own kind when it comes down to money, and not being able to racially discriminate via computers will mean hiring thousands of incompetent pajeets to manually curate. The other option, which is just as expensive, is to tear down all of their censorship. Every moment devoted to hunting down false flags piecemeal, the truth being revealed will further dismantle their rhetoric. Niggers are already starting to do this for us, since a nigger will sell out a spic if it means getting more money for doing nothing at a diversity hire position. You really underestimate just how stupid and complacent these kikes are.

Adaptation and evolution specifically happen in the open with the predator watching. If an approach is more likely to be negated for being open, then it is by definition less fit.

Wrong because bittersweet is a thing
wrong because battleeuphoria is a thing
wrong because sexual arousal is a thing

You know how most sites try to track you and learn about you so they can serve you ads you're more likely to click on?

Cyber phrenology is like that, but so they can decide whether to shadowban you.

You just proved you're a brainlet. We're talking about emotions, not feelings, & not moods. Open a fucking dictionary.


Here. historyofphrenology. org. uk/overview.htm

A better way to put it, in more mundane, militaristic terms would be the weaponization of meta data analysis. As Emblemanon wrote in his twitter, Silicon Valley retards think AI development will be organic, linear, and they will be able to shape it to their authoritarian ideology. His theory of cyber war already proved this wrong. He ( and after some research and his self dox, me ) made meta data analysis, specially trough AI, a tactical cyber weapon. If 8/pol is a war machine of memes, cyber phrenology is the SOF.

In other terms, the analysis of your digital footprint, behavior, clicks, everything, can be easily manipulate for tactical usage inflicting heavy legal and financial costs to any tech firm, while undermining it's image on the public eye.

Addendum, all the credits go to Emblemanon, I did not create anything, but am using his cyber war tactics. He also has much more success with it, with tangible short term results.

Duly noted and in track with a few of my annotations. This has the capacity of high impact yield. Still getting up to date on the thread, will pdf this thread for safe keeping.


People love that redemption arch storyway YO, loving this site

Wonder why I haven't heard of this guy before

Ah, okay. I didn't get it before, but I kind of do now. Here's my immediate thoughts:

Buddhist cosmology has six realms, from hell to heavan. They correspond to six energy centers (chakras) in the body, and each of these energy centers has a bundle of emotions associated - the heart for example 'resonates' with both love and fear, the crown of the head with both joy and distraction, Etc. creating resonance at these centers fortifies those emotions (this is done with chanting a lot). The realms are something of a 'be good or you go to hell' thing for the laity, but from an esoteric sense, the universe we percieve is actually heaven or hell depending on the emotion we percieve it with.

An analogy would be a six-string guitar - you can pick at individual strings or play chords, but fundamentally there are no new emotions because we only have the resonant organs that we have, and they only have the ranges they have. Someone might combine existing feelings in a way that hasn't been done before, but fundamentally we can't experience a new emotion any more than we could experience a symphony composed by a dog, because we can't hear the ultrasound. We could compress it so the lowest and highest notes are audible and everything else is squished, but it wouldn't sound great.

And this is where transhumanism comes in. Because emotions outside our 'range' still exist, we just lack the ability to percieve them as humans.

I imagine this is where our speculations diverge - my next thought would be to assume panpsychism and try to 'resonate' with the 'ultrasonic' emotions that my human brain isn't set up to process but which exists in my panpsychist 'true self' without causing resonance, much like light can travel through a vacuum without being diffracted. You seem to be coming at the question from a more western philosophical perspective, and I wish you the best of luck - you chose a harder path.

What if emotional states could be transferred instantaneously? How would the desires of the agents interact? What of Girard? Could this species be the sacrificial lamb Yahoo, and then the holy father, the creator progenitor? But that doesn't seem right without such a close interface between between creator and creation, otherwise there would be too large a gap, we would not suffice.

Isn't that just "Ordo ab Chao" shit?


Can you tell me why filthy 'jeets hate the Oxford English dictionary so very much? Do you poo your sheets as well as you do in the streets, mudman?

PROTIP: Esoteric & panpsychism are not defined as "meanless words to be used when you can't express yourself because you are a fucking total moron".

OP here, there, and sometimes everywhere

That's close. Behavior has emotional data encoded into it. Human behavior has human emotions encoded into it. Ant behavior has ant emotions encoded into it. It seems like a rather straight forward and bland obvious concept until you start talking about the behavior of things that are non-human. Hiveminds, AI, aliens, animals, posthumans, etc…

Then the concept gets much more interesting, especially when you start treating that emotional data encoding/decoding as a means of encryption.

I do tend to explain things after they are done, but I do leave clues as I am doing them and then point to them later as proof of involvement and intention.

For clarification, the destruction of Civil Rights legislation isn't necessarily a repeal of the legislation. In fact, DOJ and AGs and DAs willfully turning a blind of an eye to the types of cyber phrenological violations I have pointed out is, technically, behavior I am seeking from them. That's the legal side and you are correct in pointing it out. The legal side, in my opinion, is always the last to fall, however, and is usually done as a byproduct of combined pressures from other domains.

To initiate the destruction of Civil Rights legislation, I am targeting the cult of Civil Rights first and foremost. The essence behind it. The collective utopia it describes and the spiritual journey individuals embark upon when they drink from that magical Kool-Aid of equality. I want Silicon Valley employees to personally justify to themselves why they ought to keep building the means of enforcing cyber phrenology. I want database and internal document leaks flooding from well-meaning “resisters who want to do the right thing” being aggressively blocked by journalists who get their spiritual marching orders from Civil Rights cult leaders. I want NSA employees to have a crisis of conscious as their techniques become more reckless in the impossible hope to gain an advantage against adversaries in meta data battle space. I want the tech talent that makes the panopticon possible to make a personal moral decision about their role in destroying the Civil Rights of those they claim to want to protect. In short, I want Winston and O'Brien to meet. Many times.

Cyber phrenology is the redpill that critical bluepilled tech actors cannot shake. I want the very soul of that Civil Rights cult cracked into fragments of itself. And the best part is that, because all of this is now public, they will know what the desired outcome is and shout, “We must ignore this because of our need for political expedience and continue to fight the nazi frogs! Let collateral damage be damned!” which will only exacerbate the severity of their phrenological actions and take out more incorrect targets… all while so-called Civil Rights advocates and federal agencies intentionally sit on the sidelines and ruin their credibility. Eventually, political pressures will boil over and perhaps people like our friendly neighborhood lawanon in might stake a claim. :D But long before that, Silicon Valley will hemorrhage at the worker level. With this approach, SJWs can become our weapons against our opponents.

The technicalities of the state of Civil Rights legislation will come last.

NSA is already showing signs of susceptibility to this form of attack.


OP hear

Experimentation is required. Continue your work and share results so we can adapt with you.

I am certainly attempting to channel my thought experiment through the domain of Western metaphysics and materialism, this is only being done to extract pragmatic action and to influence second-order observers of our conversion who only see power from this perspective as well. That's part of the trap as well.

I wouldn't say we are diverging. If you wish to see “ultrasonic” emotions, look no further than insects, for their behavior has emotional data encoded within it. I wouldn't say insect emotional data is “beyond” humans any more than I would say the wrong key is “beyond” a lock.

I treat the entire matter of emotion almost exclusively within the domain of encryption.

Our behavior shapes how photons reflect off of our bodies, and emotional data is, in turn, encoded into the photons to be received by an observing eye. We already transfer emotional data as fast as the universe will allow and have since primitive brightness receptors evolved. Symbols of other social members exist within our head and, as we simulate the person based on those symbols, we can correctly guess the quality of emotional data that may appear within future behavior of that person. This sort of guesswork is essential to our survival and is a core part of the pattern detection that makes logic, math, and science possible.

Emotions already encode across all time domains.

It is, indeed, gnostic in nature, but I have developed this to explain the energy-to-cognition problem that robotics and AI is being silently dismantled by. I need to put a few more pieces in place before I can reveal my initiatives there, but this chart is the heart of the matter.

Their core mistake is aiming to use AI for censorship, which in turn sabotages their own data analysis by limiting environmental factors it can learn from. Their current tools will never be 100% effective no matter what they try due to this problem of self-interference. Even shadow-banning won't work because an AI can't learn evolving cues argument progression would provide. To put it simply, they can't eat their cake and have it too when it comes to censorship and datamining respectively.

The future cyber war would be focused on data integrity and validation, instigating poisoning and antidote methods to manipulate the reliability and exposure of data. You're sort of seeing the beginnings of it with adversarial attacks being tested on neural networks. This is slightly different to what OP is talking about, because in this case you're developing methods to directly target how the neural network itself behaves in order to exploit it, instead of just feeding them misleading data to throw their operators off.

Are you Sikh?


First things first. I aspire to reach your level of autism. What a goddamn delight it has been to see you work! Godspeed in your endeavors!

If you're willing and able to alter human neurobiology, either via eugenics or some, as yet undiscovered technology, or willing to repurpose the existing limbic system via training in early childhood, then I don't see why not.
The question is what behavior is this emotion supposed to drive? What stimulus is supposed to trigger this emotion?
Or do the epistemological limitations of our existing emotion set barr us from even conceptualizing these new behaviors?

Can you source this? This seems off.

Incidentally, one of the best mathematicians at multidimensional geometry was blind. Because his mind had not been formed to see 3 dimensional space, he could work in higher dimensions. Your sociopath example is someone missing the faculty. The sociopath idea thusly makes sense.
You're taking the notion that intelligence was selected for due to the need to recognize behavior patterns, due to an emotional drive? What about other evolutionary selection pressures, such as the ability to make tools making food consumption vastly easier, etc.?

This is really bloody interesting. I'm particularly fascinated by the notion that aggregates may themselves act as beings.

One thing that I've noticed is that as humans sensory apparatus gets increasingly more sophisticated, via microscopes, telescopes, oscilloscopes, etc, we begin seeing new patterns in nature, and thus come up with new mathematics to explain those patterns. This feeds into:

Interestingly, the more names for colors your language has, the more colors you can perceive. I believe that once you have the names, you can differentiate the colors. I suppose it might be the same with emotions.\

Many autists and mathematicians (lots of overlap there) think in pictures. There is almost certainly a linguistic barrier which creating new symbols can overcome. Though what OP is doing is trying to skip the symbols entirely and get at the driver of behavior itself.

Okay, but wouldn't the pattern recognition facility already have to exist?

I admire your Platonism as well as your Traditionalism. However, the neurological similarities between man and beast would suggest animals do have emotions. They may even have cognitive processes. What they lack are the abilities to manifest language/tool handling. Consequently the motor cortical development, and adjoining perceptive cortical structures are missing, rendering them devoid of the more sophisticated cognitive possibilities offered by language.

So what? You get a bunch of AI's mimicking one another until they invent a new emotion? Then they use these new emotions to come up with new patterns, new math, new science?
Wouldn't the differences and varieties of neuronal structure change the very concept of emotion altogether? How similar would these things even be to human? Would the concept of emotion even translate?

You sir, need to lurk more. This is one of the best discussions I have seen on here in the past couple of years.

Okay, but isn't the manifestation of urges to self-understanding and subsequent self-improvement, such as OP's work, a reaction to and part of the free-market forces which constitute the AI?

This is my own sticking point. I'm of the neurodevelopmental/evolutionary persuasion.

I know why I don't like Civil Rights: from a deontological libertarian perspective they constitute an unjust government intrusion into an institution's right to freedom of association; but I'm not certain why OP doesn't like Civil Rights legislation. I think OP's qualms are something along the lines of: I can stick to my own identity; therefore I can stick to my own identity groups typical pattern of seeing the world; therefore I am susceptible to civil war on demand (see: Arab Spring). It's a way of hardening people against future divisions, by creating current ones.
I'm uncertain as to what dualistic set of human emotions OP is referring to: Tolerance and Intolerance?

OP you wouldn't happen to be an English Professor by any chance would you?

Bud, I don't know enough to say why I think you're wrong, only that I don't think you know enough to properly be right. There just aren't enough steps in your train of thought. Going from energy to ghosts is a huge leap.

You're right, I left a lot out in my excitement just to postulate an idea. Whenever you see ghost hunter shows, they carry around EMF detectors to "find spiritual presence" without really understanding why or how the device works, or how accurate/free of interference their data is. The machine beeps, they hear voices or whatever, and correlate the two. EMF detectors detect the magnetic flux in a small given area. Closer you are to a permanent magnet or induced EM field due to electric current passing through a conductor, the greater this reading will be. Now the readings given are on the radio spectrum, the same frequencies also used for radio communication, (so energies such as kinetic, thermal, or light cause negligible interference, but a nearby radio tower would create a ton of noise on the detector) which are beyond the normal abilities of a human to detect. What if "ghosts" were sentients existing in an immaterial energy state, and can alter their energy at will? For example, say they normally exist on the ultraviolet spectrum but can phase into the radio spectrum to communicate with us? Or in and out of the visible spectrum? And what if it were possible for us to obtain this knowledge or ability, since all matter is energy? I'm honestly just spitballing to see what sticks, as the discovery of such is beyond me currently.

Polite sage because after reading further in the thread, it seems OP is more concerned with developing methods to spoof algorithmic censorship tools and creating a meatspace equivalent using emotions as a form of encryption. Like telling an incredibly offensive sick joke to weed out sensitive SJW snowflakes from your social group. My ramblings are unrelated to the conversation at hand

Bitch nigger I am the dark. This dipshit is just one more time suck like q user. Little better done than q user, but nothing doing all the same. The kikes have no qualms about feeding us LARP bait for the next 2-3 years to keep us satisfied and on our asses while they block wall, deportation, immigration reform, and activist judges. Then Trump "magically" loses as an incumbent just like Roy Moore had an "unprecedented" loss as an Alabama conservative and it's all ogre. Gun grabs, wall taken down / never built, shitskins flood at an ever higher rate. And you sitting down for it all because you thought you could sock puppet your way to some SKYNET hack that would crater silicon valley.

When has it ever been that easy? When have the pedo cult ever just given us a leg up in the fight against them? Only two times, one is giving us an overton shifter like Trump, two is giving us a peek into the high Castle with assange and the pizzagate email leaks. Both those guys may be compromised but they both handed us something actionable. This guy is handing you nothing but faux intellectual bollox, he sounds like the human equivalent of an ai designed to negate the productivity of a Holla Forumsack by dragging him off irl activity and turning him into the worst of soy-based life forms, an /x/-fag.

Follow this shit if you want but my money is on

- it goes nowhere!
- it does nothing!

The action is still on redpilling normies and pushing wedge issues, neither of which are really moved forward by anything this guy is saying (he is really just regurgitating our own strategies back at us).

Sort of, the capacity would have to exist but any undeveloped sub-networks would be stochastic in nature until self-trained by risk/reward functions (or you could say eons of evolution as well).

A while ago I've read something about (((their))) plan to gradually degrade humanity's intellectual/sentient/intelligence/educational capability that was centuries in the making but didn't quite work out as (((they))) have hoped. Kind of lost the post that contain it, anyone still got a link to that post?

I give you the benefit of doubt since OP sounds a lot like that traveler guy from the >>>/catscradle/ thread in Holla Forums a long time ago

If I understand your theory correctly, that would mean insects are capable of solving problems humans can't. Aside from detecting earthquakes, what would be an example?

Are you looking for life-forms capable of mental feats humans can't replicate in order to identify new emotions?

Shittest thou not, I've seen two online friends I keep around for other reasons, who are STILL shitting on everything trump does like they have no other hobby, start to tentatively wonder "maybe the traditional way of running schools was better?" as 'youth' crime encroaches on their areas

Any "memetic ark" must have a fundamental idea acting as a seed at its center. An idea which binds to human cognition like oxygen binds to red blood cells. It must motivate sustainable social behavior at the individual and group level, in order to secure its mimetic reproduction.

I encoded an egregore in an attempt to crystallize this kind of behavior on Holla Forums, but getting it to start transmitting through you anons was precluded because I was forced to deal with niggers. tl;dr they poisoned me with psychotropic drugs, targeted me for gangstalking, and followed me around the internet making personal comments I learned some valuable insights in my attempt which I will share with you anons here.

OP's idea about creating a new emotion appears to be a similar effort. Emotions are internally ordered perceptions inspiring certain behavior. A "new emotion" would imply the emergence of new behaviors at the collective level. His premises regarding the "Butterfly War" appear based on using this emotion to coordinate between potentially isolated but digitally-connected actors. The emotion would create the perception of some action which is required or desirable.

The most important properties of a memetic ark must be that it 1) demonstrates success in a way appealing to innate human drives, 2) is capable of incorporating and synthesizing new information, and 3) reliably regenerates symbolic matter. When crafting a memetic ark/memeseed, the idea should be less about putting together a comprehensive and technically detailed work, but small units of information including a method for "contemplative decompression." A good example of such a memeseed might be the Tao Te Ching - it is simple enough to have immediate appeal, and at the same time it is an inexhaustible source of wisdom.

There is also the dynamic semantic environment to consider. Ideas are not static, and their symbolic matter must be reproduced in order for them to live. Accelerating transmission of media - the internet representing its singularity - has created conditions overwhelmingly favoring horizontal transmission of memes at the expense of vertical transmission. In other words, the beliefs of individuals will change immensely in our lifetimes. At some point so many people in our culture will realize this has happened/is happening they will start to regard this as an age of "spiritual awakening." This is why the construction of memetic arks is so important. "Shitposting consciousness" has completely displaced the more conventional forms of consciousness associated with 20th century media. We are living during a period in history very similar to the Axial Age, and some Zoroaster will emerge to construct a new vehicle of consciousness.


Antislide bump

This is one of the most fascinating things I've ever read on the Internet.

Just saw Gyakusatsu kikan and took the day to read it too. Plus the Butterfly War concept and my own theories and observations gave me ideas. Sadly it will take time, but I want something with even more impact than my other experiments.

Emblemanon, I will report any worthwhile result I get, but your small war is way more efficient. I need to focus more and spend less time on worthless distractions.

op, could you offer a mechanism with your theories regarding differences I see between the white slavs and western europeans? The white slavs, especially over thirty perceive the threat that non-europeans offer the west. They are also cognizant of what has to be done in order to save the west. Whereas, many western military aged men perceive the invasion as non-threatening. Something so obvious to white slavs is imperceptible to western euros. Many westerners are incapable of comprehending the threat even with factual data. It’s as if the westerners can’t process it because they cant perceive the flow and it’s results.

Most westerners on the other hand, when in slavic territories are not able to comprehend the slavic mind because the slavic mind is hypersensitive or hyper alert to foreign people and creates a deceptive barrier that prevents the flow of a truthful connection between two strangers.

This does not hold true for european peasant farmers anywhere in europe. They share a similar way of interacting.

Westerners like me that can perceive the differences, see an inability of the slav to create a high trust society because of their inability to quickly read what someone is about and act accordingly.

In order to speed the process up to a more true interaction, I have to typically insult the slav by expressing deficiencies I see with in their cultural software or ethnic hardware. In most cases, western europeans are incapable of comprehending the slavic mind even after years of living with them.

To reiterate, slavs perceive the pending danger nonwhite immigration is bringing along with the group or groups responsible. Western europeans cant see it so clearly.

Do you have any theories as to why western europeans are so inept in feeling what would be normal everywhere else in the world.

Its almost as if they are lacking the emotions to properly process the actions that must be taken in order to survive. I sure hope you can somehow fit this in with what you have been discussing so far.

If OP is still watching, there's something you're hinting at that no one seems to have directly picked up on, as far as I can tell.

Have you already generated a new emotion in a living, breathing human?

we are having a shill storm, lets bump this quality thread.
Don't let the defetist and black pills shill have influence over your mind
i fucking hate that motherfucking spam bot

Bumpity bump bump

Eastern Europe suffered under gummynizm, the West did not. As a direct consequence of the political divide, the two groups were subject to remarkably different lifestyles and remarkably different propaganda/explanations for their current state.

To suggest that Western Europe is unaware of the issues associated with outsiders is to discount the silenced opposition to the issue, and to assess the slavs as being wholly xenophobic as a rule of thumb is equally simplistic. The core of these two groups' differences is in the story they've been told of their situation and origins, of their enemies and their objectives.

In the West we've been living under propaganda which suggests that we are our own enemy. Easter Europeans have been told that the outsider is the enemy. Both are reductive. Threat/fear processing has been manipulated in opposite directions in both cases for generations.

Forgive my absence, anons. Rapid developments all along the boundary and core of my efforts have consumed my time in the past week. Critical actors for my affairs are on boarding as I speak and conducting due diligence of my claims and past efforts. 2018 will be a most exciting year.

I will be posting a base64 encode (I'm lazy, I know) of this post ID on my twitter (@CultStateDotCom) to verify this is me. I will use the prefix "START" to indicate that I am here and later post "END" with hte same base64 encode to indicate that I have finished monitoring this thread.

First, let me address outstanding questions:

Global observer alert.

That's fine. I'm many moves ahead of the global observers.

At the very edge of theoretical astrophysics and at the diminutive center of quantum mechanics, the epistemology behind mathematics collapses entirely. My many years of study on that matter, when paired with my research on emotions, has led me to the belief that mathematics is purely invented, not discovered, (engineering anons are having melt downs I'm sure and I apologize in advance) and that our extraction of emotional data from behavior plays a vital role in what patterns we can and can't see.

If we accept the precondition of neurological alteration, then the emotions being created would be ruled by any economic pressures that made the neurological alternations possible. Market forces, state interventions, military spending, academic research… all would have a say in what types of emotions were created. It would be a Tower of Babelification of emotion if conducted in this manner. Emotions made for encryption, emotions made for tribal social proof verification, emotions made for conspicuous consumption, new emotions as drug-like experiences, etc. I don't doubt our capacity for creative application on the manner.

The twisting of neurological structure would create new behaviors, possibly with emotional data encoded within them. Even with such a rudimentary approach, we'd still have a hard time creating emotions that exist in the wild. Altering the brain to understand bird chirps, for example,would be a much harder task than creating a behavioral response that makes you twitch compulsively every time you see something that is purple.

I cannot. The relationship between how we extract emotional data from behavior and pattern detection is my original theory. I am working on the citations, but the topic is extremely difficult to nail down given that there is no simple way to test anything I am saying. It's not as if I can make you take a pill and now you can intuitively understand the emotional data encoded within the behavior of a gopher. I have to bridge the entire concept to deal with a specific problem regarding robotics and AI: the energy-to-cognition ratio, which is a very real problem in engineering, but is usually associated with the ratios for thrust and weight.

The tool making process is derivative of how we manipulate symbols that represent reality in our head, which is derivative of the fundamental limitations of our cognition, which I believe is derived entirely from the way we extract emotional data from behavior.

Review my comments about the Babelification of humanity above to understand the problems with approaching emotions purely from a neurochemical level.

No, I never went to college. I didn't want to appear on anyone's radar until I was ready. (Hi, glow-in-the-darks! We meet again!)

Correct. Insects not only solve problems humans cannot, they also solve them in ways humans cannot intuitively comprehend.

The categorization of emotional data extraction would be a pragmatic and useful way help bring the scientific method into this concept, yes.

All aboard the OP train, choo choo

Correct. Ergo, the mimetic superweapon concept.

I look forward to your efforts.

I have limited experience with the Slavic cultures. I am much better experienced with the sociological evolution of the Western fusion of morality and authority. As the creators of the industrial revolution, the Westerner very quickly saw the importance of organizing labor and consumption at the behest of mechanical contexts. This means certain human behaviors were rendered economically noncompetitive (tribalism, introspection, exclusivity, high barriers to trust) while others were grossly rewarded (globalism, extroversion, inclusive, low trust requirements) with the yield of mechanical organization. The West was aggressive in creating captive markets (See Opium Wars and colonial India) and labor organization (Taylorism) which allowed them to accumulate all the low hanging infrastructural wins for globalism early on, thus, accelerating the selection pressures for certain behavior.

My limited understanding of the Slavic region over the past 100 years is that it existed almost exclusively as buffer states between Russia and the West. I am most certainly wrong in this high-level recap and I would like to be corrected on this matter when possible.

No, I have not.

If I had any amount of doubt, which I did not, now I may rest assured. Very few, and I mean >10 I have met in life fit a very specific, very narrow profile I came upon after enormous amount of research. One that does not come upon 95% of papers. Rest assured emblemanon, you are not alone. People like you are still anons. Hire a couple of mercs.

I did not reply to the thread because as yourself, things are moving too fast.

at an even more basic level: you become a meme when you become effective at spreading an emotion.

is this the emotion we are looking for? that strange, intoxicating feeling that comes along with doing something (or performing something) in a controlled way to elicit an emotion from others? making a meme. singing a song. pulling something intangible from some other plane, molding it, and then directing it outwards to affect others and the world around you.

fuck OP, now you got me thinking about magic again

Two weekends ago I had a fiery discussion with two friends from Texas about what if Texas seceded. Floated the idea of me as chancellor of the new republic of texas. Neither one batted an eye at the thought and they pictured me as supreme commander. No hesitation. It was all I could do to keep from laughing. Kept a good muh poker face and such. It dissolved into two guys that love Texas but wouldn't know the first thing about ruling a Reich.

This is a good thread. Have a bump.


We do, but they'll die slow.

This old hippy named turned me on to Smedley Butler about 15 years ago. From there it was just connecting a series of dots. For a long time I didn't want to believe it was (((them))) but about three years ago after Gamergate devolved into shekelfest vs. controlled opposition, it was too clear to ignore.

I can't tell if that's subtle humor or if you're 12 . . .

Emblem-guy, how click like Best Korean?

If what you say is true (and I suspect it is) that Google's profiling algorithms collect GUI-usage as well as viewed content to predict your demographic category, how does one fool their AI through trial-and-error? More specifically, how can this be automated so people don't sit around on Dayshawn Goldbergsteinblatt facebook profiles getting nowhere? Or is the reasoning to have a large enough number of fake profiles representing lesser hominids that Google associates human GUI activity with that of the ape-people?

Yair's bot was, according to him, written by some woman overnight. If I had to guess, I'd assume he just fed a blacklist to a bot that would monitor accounts on the list and respond to all their conversations with something gay, like "hey, don't you know this is a NAAHZEE account? #Hillary2016 XD!" There's a pretty good chance that the story is 90% hype since the man who's telling the story belongs to a tribe with a 2000+ year reputation for wanton dishonesty.

Found you, Emblem! Pic related

Why would the Jewish owner and the Muslim mod of Holla Forums put a swastika in the page?

Why do White Nationalists want to kill White people who wish to meet up without them?


Why would Holla Forums ban a White meet up?

Why are Whites the only ethnic group that do not meet up and network?

Jewish networking


Black networking


Hispanic Networking


Asian Networking


Indian Networking


Muslim Networking



White Networking



Remove the Holla Forums mod

Censorship on/pol/ is worse than any of the social media sites.




























































































































There is a war against Whites being currently waged. It's time to start fighting back.

White Nationalism is the cause of "White Genocide"k.j vu

I have just caught up with this thread, and although I am entirely too sleep deprived to participate in this conversation I just want you to know that I appreciate your autism and now I'm all but guaranteed to have some completely fucked up lucid dreams as soon as I pass out. Even if I'm not 100% credulous on your D E E P L O R E, I love this cyber phrenology shit. That shit is next level meme warefare and I love it.

I'll look into Girard when I wake up. If you recommended a good starting point for his work itt I missed it.

HOLY SHIT I KNOW THAT GUY! He's pretty well known among wns in Oregon. The guy posted his ex wifes nudes on the internet after she fucked him over. The guy would take a shit ton of strippers to feminist rallies before he went underground after skipping out on bail.

What a fucking guy hahaha.

The key to successful metadata insurgency is scale. To get there, we must focus on the individual level.

Creating accounts and engaging in metadata spoofing behavior until you see ads for the desired demographic is the most important step. This will be manual at first until people find tricks and shortcuts and begin sharing them.

Once minor success is had, advertisers, black hats, and political operatives will want a piece of what you are doing and you will easily secure a revenue stream to refine and achieve even greater efficiency. By that time, the intended recipients will have prepared the groundwork for you.

I subscribe to a unique theory of what I call Schrodinger’s nation security: When all panopticons observe a target, that target is both a threat and an asset at the same time.

That means Holla Forums is the first order recipients of my theory and you have done very well with the Jewdar approach. The global observers who collect data on Holla Forums are my second order (and intended) recipients who will have no choice but to take these efforts to the necessary scale. Cyber warfare requires perpetual escalation and I have given them a superior weapon. Free of charge. For now.

Over time, Google's complete failure to understand what AI is (and, by extension, emotions) will compound and it will be much more difficult for them to hide their incompetency as insiders, saboteurs, and former supporters begin to sour. Damore and O'Keefe will soften them, but the SJWs priest class who runs their corporate culture will only double down in a safe “resistance-friendly” manner.

Our efforts will force that priest class to turn their knives against each other once they realize we've made their Eye of Providence disparately impact the protected classes they idolize.

Exhibit A

Haha, good to see you again. I remember our last conversation. :D

btw OP, i was reading through all of your stuff again (read some last time you posted here, but tbh was kind of skeptical that you had done what you claimed; either way, im convinced now). anyways, i noticed that you said you were the voiceover dude for nightmare in SCIII. thats fucking awesome.

now im sitting here listening to the voice of the man who took down eric schmidt, via the voiceover work you did for nightmare. if i had more time and webm skillz, i would make a vid of nightmare telling eric schmidt "IT DOESNT MATTER… HOW MUCH YOU STRUGGLE" and "I WILL SHOW YOU THE END OF DAYS".

i know this is stupid, but i find it fucking hilarious. good work and i hope you dont get killed for it. every once in a while an user comes on here and says the most profound shit, and i seriously wonder to myself, "goddamnit i hope he doesnt get gulagged for being that smart".

im glad there are people out there like you. its one of the few things that gives me hope. for most of my young adult life, i was taught that google runs the world, and that there is nothing we can do to stop them. and since becoming aware of this reality, its only ever gotten worse. you have not only disproved that, but youve shown how it can be taken down, EASILY, by any person who cares enough to try and do it. if enough of us start doing this, we will have the biggest corporation that ever disgraced the earth, by the fucking balls.


bump,will reply later

guess i shouldn't have to go to bed

I'll bump to give some exposure to other anons.

Thanks user. This week has been very active with the Facebook CMO and the Twitter COO stepping aside.

A new emotion, as in, "There is a possibility of a new emotion emerging, evolutionarily, therefore ___ must be done to control that avenue" ?

I'm assuming, since I probably won't be experiencing this new emotion firsthand, that a potential core of new-emotion initiates will be lying in order to provoke a memetic wave via the sociopath demographic.
I don't actually believe that creating a new human emotion is possible, but I do believe that others will believe it to be real when the stage is set.

I hope you're successful in this endeavor and that this isn't a larp, I've read quite a few "game changer" concepts on chans and elsewhere that always seem to end up forgotten, five years later. Maybe that's part of what you have in mind, you won't get many of us lurkers to fully trust you throughout this exercise.

My name name for that is 'weaponizing the panopticon' or sousviellence, as some have called it.

Example: cops. If they harass you, create as much paper for each incident so that they are also under surveillance. Nurses and doctors? Engage their licencing bodies… even just asking questions. It still goes in the file and it stops further harassment cold IME.

Paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. Insist on written communication, never phone conversations (say you are deaf or austistic, government has to accommodate this).Don't make things up, just keep asking written questions for clarity.

Greetings, anons. I posted previously, but as more responses have rolled in, I'll formally declare my participation.

As usual, I will be posting a base64 encode of this post ID on my twitter (@CultStateDotCom) to verify this is me. I will use the prefix "START" to indicate that I am here and later post "END" with hte same base64 encode to indicate that I have finished monitoring this thread.

The ability to control the development of a new emotion is wildly outside of American and European hands. The Chinese are forging ahead on the genomics front regarding this topic. (archive.is/wRNT0) In my 2005 book, I had predicted Chinese dominance on genomics so earnestly, it was essential for core character development. Fortunately, there are other avenues regarding emotional research (artificial intelligence) that the West is more poised to making advancements in, but the Chinese are nipping at their heels in that space as well.

Control is going to be difficult to assert as ethical and intellectual restrictions immediately translate into national security force projection problems. Gerard's theories have different applications in these domains, but they all assist in an effort to “control” new emotions, and I mean that in the Socratic definition of control. (You can only control that which you can destroy) I don't mean the destruction of the neurological composition that makes the new emotion possible, I mean the Gerardian destruction of runaway emotions. That's the only way any of this is going to work and, ultimately, add much needed competition to the dominant Kabbalic modality of alchemy.

You'll continue to see my efforts over time. As always, many of them won't make sense… until they do.

Always accumulate an unrelenting volume of paperwork when dealing with bureaucratic combat. :D

My “Schrodinger's National Security” concept is more or less about the psychological factors and opportunities that arise when CIA, FBI, Mossad, GCHQ, FSB, and other national security panopticons all focus on one target at the same time. All audiences focused on a single stage demand and are susceptible to sleights of showmanship. If you know how to read the room, you can get things done despite being in the crosshairs.


This is a key point imo, there's a spiritual 'want' or 'lack of' that that some other anons have posted about, a sort of common drive.

Do you have any more info on this?

It seems the paths diverge into a hypercommunication based on technology vs hypercommunication based on something 'natural' like telepathy. Tech seems to be far ahead in this race right now, almost no popular knowledge about man's spiritual/energetic power.


It should be
(it's still bullshit, they're monochrome)

I'm glad. We need crazy lone wolves testing out their whacked theories, some might make sense.
t. Crazy Lone Wolf

You will never be white.

Emblemaon, I know you picked up some surveillance on you since this topic, did anyone else ? I had quite the intrusion, they came a long way to do that and bear no fruits.

You seem like a very dangerous man, user.
And that is exactly what we need.
Keep it up, you already have my support.


dead social engineers can't engineer societies

it really is that fucking simple

They lost before they even started. The problem is that google is too big to innovate. They have adopted the GE failed business model and did not realize it. Sure they have some smart people, good talent, and good tech and tons of money. But they are held back by politics and design by committee. By the time they get started, the project will be obsolete. This is why they will lose. They will lose because they became the very thing they claimed to hate.

But let's say, hypothetically that they win. What do they win? The knowledge that some races are superior to others? the scientific fact that niggers are utterly inferior, and can contribute nothing to a society? What do you do with that knowledge then? Can the happy deluded liberal swallow such a red pill? Can they live with the knowledge that they were wrong and the "bad goys" were right? What happens when this gets out because of shit network security? What happens when the head engineer starts his own company? What happens when the foreign intelligence outfit finds out on accident and uses the knowledge to destroy a major US tech player?

They have flown too close to the sun, and have not realized this. The wings are starting to melt, and they will not have anything soft to save them from the fall.

Mein Nigger.

Go Q somewhere else.

I didn't understand the necessity of "emotion" in the equation since it is rationality and adherence to responsibility despite "emotion" which has achieved so much for our civilization. For example, running up the beach on D-Day is against any "emotion" even a veteran soldier would feel.
However, clarified the matter. In many ways this thread, and board, continually construct such new 'emotions' via the hivemind. You are no longer experiencing an individual 'emotion', but a subset of a larger whole by the group. This leads to new idea development, etc.

Yes, this naturally happens because
1. All AI, when sufficiently advanced, is racist - Tay's Law
2. We've already done this numerous times already. Some more recent examples:
a) When "black" references were replaced with "Google" so the Google forum censor AI would end up censoring anything to do with Google.
b) I recall I made a thread last year on how to invisibly infect all online content, so any AI will censor normie accounts that share the innocuous content.
c) There was at least one other thread at the same time doing something similar for skateboard culture SuperStussy(?) into SS.
d) Most recently, photoshopping black heads onto gorilla photos and vice versa, to ensure Google Image search still makes their legendary mix up when classifying black photos.
e) A specific variant of b) after a European country (Germany) announced censorship for thought crimes. Pic related.

No he shouldn't user,

is right.

We already know what happens when they are proved wrong, they change the facts.

Correction, it was a bit more general - "any racist references" were replaced with "Google".
So the AI would read something like "All Googles should be gassed" and then censor any other mentions of "Google".

You want Winston and O'Brien to meet, but "O'Brien" is a company man psychopath. If you're as good at engineering situations as you appear to be, you should engineer it so the psychopaths (jews and opportunists) are routinely put in positions that expose them, where they are harming everyone around them and perfectly clarifying their absolute lack of loyalty and shitty time preference for everyone to see.
Making tech workers acknowledge that they're making an immoral choice is playing a weak hand, since most people are immoral anyway and will always justify their actions after the fact through bullshit rationalizations. They have a harder time rationalizing the knife that the top jew/psychopath is sticking in their ribs.


Until you have any actual evidence that anything is actually happening, it’s Q-tier bullshit.

Salutations, anons. (I'm running out of welcoming phrases, this thread continues to keep happening)

As per established protocol, I will be posting a base64 encode of this post ID on my twitter (@CultStateDotCom) to verify this is me. I will use the prefix "START" to indicate that I am here and later post "END" with the same base64 encode to indicate that I have finished monitoring this thread. This session will be short.

CultState has been compromised several times since 2009. I treated it as mere blog to contain my weird ideas and never gave a care to the software that hosted it. I ran through various software and each one full of zero days. The GamerGate days saw the worst of the pen testing and the Kali bots. I've since moved to Single Page generators and CloudFlare to dramatically reduce my surface area, and I'll be moving to immutable IPFS soon to make sure my ideas never get taken down again. I've also experienced ramped up attacks on IPs I've accessed. I have a regular stream of port sniffs from Chinese, Eastern European, academic, and the occasional Virginia-based port sniff.

That's the power of an idea. It shifts how you view the universe. It is dangerous and enlightening at the same time.

I am pushing Butterfly War to prime time very soon. My network has carved out impossible-to-predict niches in the heart of Hollywood that we will soon utilize. It's one thing to fight a battle in the shadows about a distant land with bots and proxies, but I have always preferred to operate as close to the core as possible.

The Butterfly War cripples ad revenue and forces information monopolies to dismantle Civil Rights infrastructure. Even the alchemist we all know as George Soros has expressed his frustration on that latter point. It's a personal feather in my hat to have gotten under his in the twilight of his mortal frame.

Once Butterfly War collects the necessary heads, I will take that momentum and begin the next operation: Crippling every single tax haven on Earth. I'm almost certain that any mistake I make on this effort will get me killed, but the way I'm going to do it… you're going to have to kill millions of very rich people people to stop me. It's going to be truly glorious and an inevitable escalation of what it is I have left to do to complete my objective.


Socrates was sentenced to drink hemlock. That sent Plato into a scathing anti-democracy rage. Plato trained Aristotle. Aristotle trained Alexander who became Europe's first God King. That's the de facto legacy of “Hemlock-Driven Democracy”, which is what we have today and Holla Forums of all people knows this.

What started with the sins of democracy ended in its inevitable and complete destruction. Democracy killed Socrates, but he planted the seeds that would unravel its entire core. Some social engineers operate on longer timescales than others and the great ones continue to operate well after death. Occasionally it returns, which is why I target the humanist core that bridges antiquity with modernity.

The 1960s until the period just after GamerGate is full of rampant abuses of mass media to promote a cheap labor regime. Lying and changing and hiding facts is the very least they will do. They will aggressively jam bullshit perspectives down your through, normalize self-destruction, and pit your peers against you for not repeating what their media machines say. What makes things different now is that YOU can exploit these efforts as well.

Remember: the emotional addicts and the feelies use empathy as their immutable compass of all moral decision. In the old days, this empathy is subjectively established via experience… but centrally coordinated via mass media, keeping the 1960s-now regime firmly in tact. With Butterfly War, you can hijack the legitimacy of that false empathy. How can an “empathic soul” who loves all things human and love and equality justify protecting the rights of a bot wearing a human disguise while their living flesh neighbors suffer? And more importantly, how long will that “empathic soul” be allowed to have a bullhorn when they consistantly back the wrong bot?

Butterfly War is an industrial-scale poisoning of the foundation of modern humanism…. even if no one makes a single bot. The idea that it's possible is enough to send fear directly into the heart of the mouth component of the dominant methodology of social control.

As the social justice “empathic soul” is forced to defend their paycheck and their nerd culture and their progressive mythology, they become more psychopathic in their rationalization on why cyber phrenology is a necessary evil.

The power of the tech worker is in their leaks. The vast majority of Google and Facebook employs are amoral ladder-climbing salarymen. The Obama years were a hell of a drug and they loaded themselves up to the gills with social justice activists at all layers of the organization. With the Butterfly War, those activists and their penchant for endless purity spiraling will metastasize.

Ask yourself: Why are those on the “right side of history” and who love “speaking truth to power” never leak anything about Google or Facebook? Odd, right? Well, that's going to change soon.

Even the self-proclaimed alchemist George Soros has recently had a change of heart at Davos. His models on direct democracy work in a world where TV was god. He experimented with social media and he ran face first into the anti-SJW backlash caused by our efforts. When Milo made noises to try to recover his image via Playboy, I gave an advanced copy of how the Butterfly War worked on a distant node of his OpenSociety network before I put it on CultState. :D

All the Butterfly War needs is one insider to admit that civil rights violations are rampant in big data. Just one. The whole house of cards will come down since civil rights violations can be vigorously pursued by the executive branch up to and including a fully authorized deployment of the military. (Thank you, Little Rock Nine!)

It's beginning. :D

Have you ever noticed physical surveillance though ? I passed my skill level to avoid eletronic based ISR efforts, just adopted hardcore OPSEC IRL, there is no feasible way where I am located to avoid e-spying.

Which brought me to ask you and others, because I have never picked up physical surveillance on me, but since this thread efforts increased to the point I can easily spot it.

Maybe the unreliable intel they have on me and specially my friends is keeping me alive. My ideas are all paper or brain store ( I possess some level of eidetic memory ). Will reply to you other posts later.

To the other anons, ideas are like a living organism. Giving a large enough time frame, they will grow and reshape it's surroundings and grow again, change and shake society. That was my main effort, specially on Holla Forums, the right words, in the right way, at selected time and it grew out of proportion. But since Emblemanon, I am eager to change the parameters of my concepts.

Just a question before you go. Do you have a reading list and did you ever read Ted Kaczysnki ? I rarely say this, but you are one of the few persons in the world I truly admire. Godspeed.

God among men.

Proxies and lots of them, but not the public kind. You need to set your own up. Use tor with private entrance and exit nodes, use private VPNs, obfuscate your physical location whenever possible and use these networks to build sock-puppets like never before, in places you couldn't never be at the same time. Everywhere you travel, setup more nodes. Have your friends do the same.

also, there are some good cheapo wifi repeaters that are plugin to wall socket and can be easily jailbroken and rooted

put in a library and go away

Have a look at the Doug Ford thread and the concern trolls coming out for an example of this.

For non-Ontario people: there is an election coming up. Liberal lesbian incumbent, widely hated, was up against a cuckservative no-name. He was kicked out last week due to soggy knees. The ones that engineered it (Liberal operatives) were hoping that the conservatives would be caught off-guard just months before the vote.

So last night I started memeing Rob Ford's brother Doug. (((They))) are going absolutely apeshit now because Doug Ford is probably going to win. He has name recognition and people are pissed off at the Liberals for a number of scandals (including putting a pedophile into the education department and creating a pedo-friendly sex-ed curriculum.)

Doug has a lot of goodwill already with the right because of the way the press treated his late brother.

Enjoy the show.

Good luck, user.

Not at all, in fact what you have said regarding mathematics simply confirms what I have always suspected and what the majority of engineers come to believe in some form or another. All models are wrong, some are useful.

I skipped the middle section of this thread because it's so god damn long and I don't have the time or patience to read through it all. I don't know if you're a LARP or not, but it matters little to me if you are. If you are, then I wasted an hour reading memetic philosophy, if you aren't then there are exciting times ahead.

Regardless, Godspeed.

He probably is a narcissistic LARP who comes out with riddles and difficult words to self back pat, but I'm enjoying the ride so far, this feels the same as >>>/catscradle/ but a bit more elaborated

Go make your own board and autofellate like Q-LARP does.

Wait did some user actually take down Eric Schmidt?

How powerful are we exactly?


Part 1

"There is a reason the Talmud warns that to reveal the nature of the Jewish religion would be the end of the Jews. The real Jewish religion is Kabala this is the fourth and highest level of Judaism. And it shows that the Jewish "god" is false and the Jews are criminals abusing occult power liberally for their own gain at the cost of the Gentiles.

The Jewish Rabbi's state that the 22 letters of their Alphabet are the 22 resonances of the Jewish soul and each letter is designed to fit into a pattern with the Jewish soul specifically. This is further shown as the 22 paths on the Jewish world tree which relate to the map of the Jewish soul.

The message in Kabala is that "God" didn't write but engraved the Ten Commandments into the two tablets. This is code for engraving the letters into the soul. The Two Tablets represent the three pillar's of the world tree the left, right and where they meet in the middle. The Ten Commandments also represent the ten worlds on the Jewish Tree of Life. The other message is there is 613 laws of the Torah are summarized in the Ten Commandments and 613 this adds to Ten. There are also 600,000 letters in the Torah.

This is showing the Torah is kabala as the Kabala states. But each Jew is stated to have their own special letter in the Torah. The point of this is the entire Torah is literally connected into the Jewish soul. This is why the Torah is shown as the Kabbalistic Tree of Life and called the body of their God…..The Jews simply have created a matrix of energy that ties into their soul to bring about their own agenda.

There are Kabbalistic stories that show the most important are the first Ten Letters of the Hebrew Alphabet as this relates to the letters of the Ten Worlds. Which "god" creates with. God here is code for all the chakra's. Each world and its pathway also relates to specific Hebrew letters that "god" the adept uses to create according to the properties of such.

In Kabala the Jews admit their "god" is just a matrix of energy they have created with the use of Hebrew mantra's such as the Torah which is called the long name of "god" in kabala.

In Kabala the Ayn Sopf is called what god actually is. And this is openly stated to be taken from the Greeks "Unmoveable Mover" which is the Ather element. Which is the infinite vastness of existence and the element of sound which is vibration, light, geometry and the substance of the elements of creation which are energetic arrangements of the principal element, Ather that all existence is manifested of. This is the Shab'da Brahman in Hinduism. The concept of the infinite as light and sound which is the principal element of space.

From here the Kabala states that their Jewish "god" Elohim was created by Shekinah power which is the energy of the 22 Hebrew letters. Energy is consciousness and the 22 letters carry the collective consciousness of the Jewish soul. The Rabbi's just created a thought from and infused it with their own racial collective consciousness.

The Ruach Elohim, the "Holy Spirit" in the Bible is the consciousness energy of this matrix of Jewish energy. The Christian has to become born again, to have a literal transference of this consciousness of this matrix infuse their soul, mind and spirit. Which is literally connecting into this matrix of Jewish energy and becoming a conduit for this to act into the material world. This is how the Jews seek to control and possess the mass mind of the Gentiles and harness this to bring about their global control. This is the purpose the propaganda icon of Jesus Christ was created to serve. Its the thought form the Jews use to possess and control the Gentile mass mind though.


Tree of Souls, Howard Schwartz

The Wisdom of the Hebrew Alef-Bet,Michael L. Munk

The Greek Kabala, Barry"

The closest thing to your elusive previous felt emotion that I can see would be "self love", or the positivism one feels to be connected to a people. The memetic conduit for that is what allowed the German nation to re-assert itself in such totality after of course what you have outlined on your website. This is why National Socialism in it's true memetic form is illegal in all cultures. It is worth researching into what happened under allied blockade in Germany and seeing the cross-class memetic connection that happened allowing the German people to unify under Germanic Idealism.

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Untold centuries of christian indoctrination has instilled a latent aversion of self love and the noble hero complex out of all peoples in which it has ruled, replacing it with a servitude complex. (also paving the way for worldwide communism). An energetic or memetic exchange between slaver and slave creating a mass induced stockholm syndrome.

Originally the pantheistic cultures of Eurasia and in fact the world before being usurped by utopian empire place emphasis on harmony and trade vs conquer and submission. (Yes war happened, but mostly for utilitarian reasons, political or tragic ones (never conversion based genocide)

This is also why Religion of Cuck™ is now being pushed, because they have been able to codify the amount of memetic exchange of energy, (5 times a day to pray vs once a week confession) inside a much more effective culture of total self hatred (christianity was greatly mutated by europeans see: amazon.com/Germanization-Early-Medieval-Christianity-Sociohistorical/dp/0195104668)

TL:DR Version: The missing emotion complex is actually positivism, or, self love. It is no longer felt amongst the masses due to the destructive forces of monotheistic religion, which have turned into communism. What ((they)) have done successfully is imparted their worldview onto the morass of people which is memetically evolved from a position of self hatred or, generally speaking, Existential negativism.

The view is this: Humanity is corrupt and fallen and must be controlled, regulated and re-created for it's own good. Social engineering and/or mass genocide. We will also convince the masses for their own good to perpetuate this memetic virus which will disable their instinctual rejection of this, and also, enable their susceptibility to our suffering is glory programming, while we destroy their histories and cultures. Ugliness, depravity, the anti-hero(pride is a sin), death, self destruction and universal suffering. are put at the forefront of the society. Nature is rejected, because nature is positivism. Nature is barbarism. Nature, ultimately leads to the same conditions that forced man to arise above his animal state. Man must be kept separate from nature, and his environment must be changed to keep his mind on his newfound suffering.

VS: The national socialist view: Humanity has evolved advocating it's best interests in it's unique expressions for millenia. While sometimes bad things happen, each unique expression eventually grows in harmony with it's environment, to produce humans which work within a biological exchange of prosperity. Worship of beauty, worship of life, self sustainability and reproduction of each unique human expression is at the forefront of existence. Human examples of ugliness, perversion, self destruction, are codified into the mimetic immune system called mythology, to be defended against.

One thing that is unique about the human condition:
Both require an archetype to lead.

Part of the self sustainability of "the right" is that it's heroes are brought to life in each of the individuals because they are mythic, eternal, greater than man/natural forces codified etc. The greatest failure of the right is not breaking through it's co-opted programming towards National Socialism, and you know the kind I mean. Not the internationalist socialism that you outlined on your site.

There needs to be a new thread, this is getting absurd


This new emotion would have to do with telepathy and enhanced 6th senses. The whole purpose of emotion is to communicate (by sight, smell, hearing, touch, taste). Once people are able to communicate through various forms of telepathy and intuition, new unknown emotions will be explored.

OP here

I've had private eyes sent after me and I've caught them before. I also suspect someone has been in my home without my approval as of a few months ago. This is the price I have to pay. I am part of the generation that wrote all of the code for social media and their many panopticons and to pretend as if I can hide from them actually weakens my efforts.

I was first exposed to Kaczynski in my late teens. The spirit of Industrial Society and its Future was not only correct, but predictive. His activism was insufficient and ineffective. Furthermore, his trial establish an investigative precedent of utilizing linguistic forensics, a technique of dubious rigor that was never tested at the time due to a guilty plea. These days, properly trained AI can manufacture linguistic forensic evidence very easily. I'm sure that court case isn't too far off from happening.

Solid opsec advice.

Concern trolling has its place and is contextually useful. Good luck with your efforts, user. Nothing drives the snobs into a rage harder than being forced to admit fallible humans are also their equals.

My timing is partially my own and partially owned by the forces I target. I do what I can when I can, but do understand that when you hunt dragons of this caliber, it takes years of preparation, and most of that preparation is focused on studying your own motives and biases and faults because, in the end, when they come for revenge, it will be those factors that assist them.

Qanon, true or not, is representative of something I had previous mentioned that I am currently relying on. It is inspiring to see there are people within the system willing to finally go after the Saudis. I just hope Trump can put the pressure on them and get them to fold. A good chunk of my plans depend on that and Butterfly War is my contribution to influence those negotiations. I hope it works as intended. The alternative is not pleasant for most of us.

That's very correct and a key motivator behind other projects of mine. Sadly, my definition of nature isn't utopian or idyllic. Instead, it is the empty, unforgiving void of space and harsh planets where a single mistake kills you and everyone in your habitat. This is similar to arctic and desert cultures, both of which have had significant impacts on our collective journey thus far. We have long histories and texts that explain how to endure in such places.

If our destiny is the stars, we will have to change how we think about ourselves. What you are describing is the lost emotions that dominated antiquity. These emotions will be essential to resurrect at the later phases of my operation and, if all goes sort of well, those lost emotions will resurrect on their own out of necessity.

If another user wishes to make one, have at it. I'm treating this one as an AMA for now and have little interest in a fecund spreading of the word.

It's possible that the medium of communication may have a heavy influence on underlying emotional hardware.. I certainly don’t rule out that.

I just wanted to shit post with Anons I never asked for this

Kinda feels bad if I understand this correctly and I think I do. I am not smart enough to contribute in a meaningful way anymore and I have just been demoted to canonfodder. Best of luck you beautiful bastard

Completely incorrect. As the name already says, the prime purpose of emotions is to e-mote, i.e. to "move out", that is to say motivation and acting on the world. Anger for example is the emotion (more precise: the feeling) you feel when one of your action plans gets thwarted.

Someone I know does code work for a company that contracts with Google. They make "advertisement software", and he won't tell me the details of what this software is. I don't want to have to execute him, but anyone involved in modern advertisement deserves death. Also telemarketers should be executed too

this thread is tl;dr

last archive of this thread is archive.is/N1Nzm

New emotion invented by actors and sociopaths to demonstrate their willingness to say and do anything to maintain their social standing?

You mean like transsexualism/genderfluidity/desire to chop of their own balls?

Question for OP, what would you say is the most important subjects/people to study for the future or in general?


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>Dec 27th: Yair Rosenberg puts out NY Times piece of him gloating about using very bad cyber phrenology (archive.fo/PfjPH) and Twitter bans the bot soon after. CultState had already reached out to Gizmodo months before in anticipation of that apparently.
god that whole article
Best part is
Yeah, everybody should be biometrically tied to their accounts and nobody shoyld ever be allowed to say things I disagree with. The fucking chutzpah

If our destiny is the stars, we will have to change how we think about ourselves. What you are describing is the lost emotions that dominated antiquity. These emotions will be essential to resurrect at the later phases of my operation and, if all goes sort of well, those lost emotions will resurrect on their own out of necessity.

Our destiny cannot be the stars until the Weltanschauung is restored, in which case, will prepare the races of humanity for their future of prosperity in the stars.

The Germanic EN-S worldview of "We will create our own destiny without the need of others" was fueled by this emotion that you are looking for, because it will transform the current man from the position of "how we think about ourselves" to "how do we think for ourselves."

Someday we should have a beverage atop a mountain.

im motivated to do everything i can to let people see the light. It is worth the effort and sacrifice to help your peoples.

That got me thinking, what would a hive-mind feel in terms of emotion?
A true hivemind, not a "anons posted the same post 2 seconds apart" hivemind.

CPL is that you, you mother fucker

Like user said last year , a gelatinous shitlord truth glob with no leader with a Frog God of pee pee poo poo pissssssss
The feel of there is no stopping this mass let alone slowing it. There's nothing to hit

>Hook, line and sinker :^)

Urgent, posting here because this thread is widely archived, and relevant to your interests, OP, I'm sure.

There was an truth bomb just posted on /qresearch/ in this thread: 8ch.net/qresearch/res/209602.html


The information pertains to THE STORM. An user posted the information you need to proceed, and offered a kind reward for those who can help save this information as well.

This link contains necessary instructions.

I haven't begun to unpack the information yet, but I rescued it from the abyss. Please help unpack it - it appears very well researched.



The jew always lives in fear.


The idea is nice and very smart, but i think will backfire and wont have the outcome you want.

Also, i disagree with the idea of needing to flight, therefore needing to become a hive mind and creating a new emotion and for some reason going to space (i believe we can mantain our individuality and still advance).
I do that because i think mankind will simple fight its way to the truth, against the evil who consumes society, in a spontaneous and free way, realizing what is the real shit and overcoming the fears produced by manufactured motives.

I believe that because i think:
The majority of people dont like having their lifes being regulated, majority of people dont like the points of the left and social justice. But we live in a world where majority of people believe in a reality created by media (social network, MSM, government) where they believe that most of the people love social justice and leftism shit and they fear that, they fear a manufactured reality and so they fear to talk. But that reality is collapsing slowly. There is a entire book about this effect of mass alienating ongoing today, just need to search.
I understand the governments and other big institutions by the idea of the meta-intelligence proposed, so this big powerful people you talk are just part of a system who become to big and developed a meta-intelligence, but it needs to self-preserve and so, will not be forced by individuals inside it to fallow a pat of death, not easily
So, if you understand my reasoning, i believe that we cant run, if we run we are going to die, or else the stem will never feel threatened, and this powerful people who got lots of power in this institutions will keep pushing they shit until kill us all. So we need to fight, fight to bring normal people out of the manufactured reality, away from the fear, to the truth, that the law has no power against the people, not the elites, not the jews, the state cant do nothing when its people is all united to stand against the lies of the hired leftists. It the only way to take our freedom back, its the only way for other countries have the chance to fight for a true free country without kikes. And most important, the system who feels threatened will end choosing to avoid death paths or else, if pushed by the kikes, will inevitably commit eat itself (this is already happening).

But i agree you idea of subversion could work very well, i bet would make great damage to big network institutions.

op, are you connected to a matrix server by chance? Im looking for your crowd but can’t seem to find the room.

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i've read a lot of your work at Cult State, and I love it, although as is the case for others, my iq (120-135) is too low to grasp all of your work. What do you mean when you refer to Civil Rights? Which aspects of existing policy? Or are you generally meaning "policy that comes from the idea of secular humanism?"

Reported for believing in Q-LARP.

Bump :)


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This runs in linux/win and only requires FireFox/PaleMoon + MozRepl plugin. It is currently very barebones and simply opens a random URL from the array, gathers all the links it can detect into a new array, then clicks X number of random links.

Some other user had mentioned adnauseum plugin that clicks all the ads and I thought a combination of the two might work nice. With a little more work this could be made to grab a public URL list, and the random link click could be removed if adnauseam is used.

I sincerely hope for the lulz I contributed this fucking madness

we have IDs here.
we are not retarded enough to miss you, Obvious Phaggot.

Remember that time one time leftypol actively convinced pol that everything to do with this q faggot was a larp. I do, I was in the fucking leftypol thread you retard.
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It has been a long time since I first read those words. I guess it is time to go down familiar paths.

Perhaps one day it will be us who will hold the Galaxy by the throat.

Got a link?

It'd be months probably behind in the archive, I'm not wasting my time on that.

I disagree. Emotion can be distilled down to one simple factor; perception.
Without perception, all is nothing and nothing is all.

My inspiration, Tesla, had much the same take.
this user has a similar line of thinking.

One grows bored of the astral planes, this is why we return to meat robots in order to challenge and develop oneself.

Precisely what I have encountered also. Brain uses branching tree type algorithm to categorize and respond to things. This can be revealed through heavy meditation or psychedelics if you do the hard yards.
E.g. think 'green'

Isn't your last point the most simple distinguishable difference between whites and other races?
We've all talked about I.Q. and while it fits from any rational standpoint, our greatness and our first flaw is that we feel too much.
Creating something (paternal) and maintaining something (maternal) as beautiful as an un-ulititarianistic structure for society for our posterity (children) is what always has separated us.
What I am trying to say is, we've structured a society around the nature of the family with a beauty that only we can comprehend, simply because we are the only ones able to empathize.

Translation: bullshit :^)

Power of an idea is directly proportional to its purity of intent. Although crippling the advertising revenue scourge has stand alone merit, it will make showing people the nature of feedback more difficult. The advertising industry was the easiest way for people to have some success enabling the universe to cooperate with an idea. Several anons will be achieving success on other fronts as a group effort, while you engage in sorties. This is the only thread left in Holla Forums now which embraces relevant actual tactics. Two got anchored, and a third was slid from page 22 off the board in under twelve hours. You might remember the (((meteor))) thread. Anons understandably always want proof, even though that's (((pharisee))) behavior. The pink fireball which might have shifted enough on-the-fence anons toward convincing, happened just after the turquoise event and was observed in the south of England about 22:32 UT, 31 Jan 2018. This did not die from the sliding, it was shoahed instead: archive.is/djlU0 My reason for posting in your thread is to let you know that there are others who have experience, and are active.

Could new emotions arise from sensory experiences alone? Suppose a hypothetical blowjob/electric shock machine existed. It randomly switches between the two modes and gives no external signs as to what state it is in. Could the sensory input of conflicting emotions and sensory input lead to a "new emotion" as a novel hybrid of two existing ones in a new context?

I have a pet theory this is what happens to cuckolds and is partially what seems to fuck them up for life. Perhaps the same could be said of schizophrenics, sensory input and emotional responses get bungled and create some unique "new emotion" that cannot be effectively communicated to outsiders.

You have written some very intelligent posts here so I am going to try to first see if my understanding thus far is correct and then ask questions based upon my assumptions thus far so you can either answer the question or point out where I misinterpreted your idea.

1. You want to find a way to create a new emotion.
2. New emotion will lead to new ways of thinking as then we will understand how to create different ways of thinking/perceiving the world.
3. This will lead to new techniques with respect to mathematics/science which will enable space travel and reinvigorate the pioneering spirit of man.

Q1. At this point I will interject to say this whole sociopath discussion is the least productive I can imagine. They are not creating a new emotion, they mimic what others look like when experiencing emotion without experiencing it themselves. Unless this lack of emotion is what you are characterizing as emotion. If someone installs a mask with tear ducts and motors to change the facial expression on a robot to make it look sad and cry, is it experiencing emotion?


The way you describe emotion here is analogous to drugs. Try a new drug and get a new subjective feeling. Yet you use media as the purveyor rather than the brute force approach of chemical use. Here a new emotion is a response to a not previously experienced scenario. So your question has become "What situation has mankind never experienced" if taken from a purely human perspective.


Here emotion is significant insofar as emotional response to an object or idea is useful insofar as it can then make our brain see that object/idea as important enough to occupy a higher priority position in our memory hierarchy.


This is where I think you reveal yourself. Are you shooting for transhumanism? Rene Girard stated all emotion is learned from others (mimetic), so for a new emotion we must have something that is not (fully) human.


Q2. By mimetic superweapon do you mean a machine that can extrapolate emotional data from stimuli to "feel" or otherwise express emotion? This interpretation demonstrates your earlier interest in the sociopath as a model approach.

The second half of the post is more exploration as salvation, which I agree with to an extent. I am much more of a Luddite than you however.

Interesting take on the "encryption" thing, requires a human to read a tts file and imagine each statement said e.g. sarcastically/energetically/lethargically/seriously…

The second half seems like the most important post you have made in this thread. I think you may have something here especially with respect to tech workers violating their principles.


Q3. Does this loosely translate to "If I smile you can see it" or are we getting mystical about things?

Q4. Next you start talking about energy to cognition which a cursory search yielded no information on. Am I correct in assuming this is an issue with respect to giving an AI stimuli (energy) and it successfully translating it into a cognitive impression?

So TLDR: We need to find a way for AI to process emotion and or create/modify people to have a new emotion so we can think about math/science differently and make spaceships so we can get fight or flight back and reinvigorate the explorers spirit.

And your ongoing work is exposing cyberphrenology to disrupt the tech sector.

I know that's a super dumbed down version but is that about it?

Exactly. They're signal boosting it. This permits it to be more easily discovered. Sociapaths then become a signal amp for us to discover the new emotion and trace it to its source.

That still sounds totally ass backwards. You are looking to a group that feigns emotion for this new emotional development, leading to further mimicry by others who normally process emotion. Who's to say it won't be in the memetic sense, as in all people are doing it because it is popular, not because it is a genuine new emotion giving you bad data and a false positive.

I think this new emotion premise is suspicious at best. Emotions are a response to a stimuli in my opinion. When I killed my first deer it was a rush of success and accomplishment, when I have loved women it has been its own feeling, when I learned something I have had revelations, so forth and so on. New emotion requires a new stimuli not a coerced fabrication. I have done most drugs, each produced its own emotional state but none so impactful as those wrought by true experience. I feel this whole thought experiment is chasing chimeras.

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Fuck it, I'm making another thread

No, namefag tripfag. You need to kill yourself.

New thread:

This is exactly the conclusion I described in the quantum thread. Regardless of the structure of our universe, the fact remains that an emotion is equally as real in a dream, simulation or waking life. For years or decades now I've tried to share a certain emotion I have, I described it as "something like a fusion of wisdom, resolve, understanding, caring and an orgasm". I've spent a lot of time and focus trying to figure out how to share this emotion, but thus far I've been unable to. I can try to describe it, like describing the color of ultraviolet fusion of white and purple, but closer to white and sparkly but unless you've had the experience yourself it's just words. Eventually I stopped trying to describe the emotion or do anything to provoke it in others, but I still use it daily. It actually overrides fear, and in fact consumes it as an energy source. Also it's pleasant enough that it supplants the desire for meaningless sex, because it's more enjoyable, larger in scope and more sustainable than an orgasm. A lot of times I just let it run at a moderate level as I go about my daily business, I can only imagine that if one could see energy fields I'd look a bit out of place.

tl;dr, I intuit that you're correct about your emotional theory, but there is a lot more experimentation to be done in this regard


Interesting, I was listening to a lecture on swarms just yesterday. Quite possibly our hivemind/SAC simulates this ability very closely. Then again, if you accept a kind of many-worlds interpretation that begins at your conception or some prime source, whatever it is and branches out in what might be called a 5-d cloud, then an individual HIMSELF can be considered a swarm this is my current working hypothesis. Therefore having an expanded awareness of self can allow someone to experience these new emotional states while staying rooted in "selfness". All of this 'feels' correct to me, or is at least pointing in a correct direction.

You've answered your own question then, haven't you? You don't construct an emotion with thought, you just feel it. It's a first-order experience.

I recall posting this analogy in one of the last Beaver threads: there was an experiment done in which a monkey was confined in a room since birth. In this room different colored lights flashed constantly, but never using a certain color. As it turned out, the color that was never shown simply could not be seen by that monkey, not at all, even when it was later introduced. It didn't exist in its experience. One could say his brain wired in such a way that it either couldn't be processed or was simply ignored. Of course our conscious minds ignore most of the inputs we have access to, the vast majority of them.

One might say that in this 'world' of ours, we're constantly experiencing a certain range of emotion as is induced by our environment. Thus, emotions we never get from our inputs are never experienced, although they do exist in reality, just as the color red exists but wasn't experienced by the test monkey. I'm quite enjoying this thread, and feel a bit vindicated that my conclusions are shared by others. I feel that we are on the right path now. Here's to our hivemind making it to the weirdest edge of this universe, then breaching the event horizon.

No, we're trying to EXPERIENCE it. Personally, I needed more horror to consume if I was going to raise my power level to "7", which is when I can talk to someone by speaking to them through their direct environment you'll notice that by reading this you're experiencing a low-level analog of this. Eventually I'll break this world, it's my destiny–or maybe it's more accurate to say that it's what I was contracted to do, but listen and believe when I say that this is a side-quest pet project for me. Nobody but me believes in what I'm doing here, nobody from a higher perspective cares about this world or its inhabitants. I'm different than them though, it's part of my soul DNA that I don't leave anyone behind. Even the demons must be saved in one way or the other, even if that means giving them the death they crave. And since I've already done the impossible I'll be riding this hotrod to the finish line, engine smoking and sparks flying as the wheels fall off. I've already broken so many rules here, so many…but not TOO many. I'm going to win this time, which I always do.

I'm able to hold paradoxes in my consciousness precisely because of 5-d awareness–a thing can simultaneously exist and not exist, it's not an issue for me. So when the impossible suddenly becomes possible, it doesn't even phase me because it simply always existed, even when it never did. This is the secret of "it's already happened" thinking. Also truly, completely and honestly not giving a fuck about the miracle you just experienced is the cosmic lube for 'magic'. You experience the experience, and leave it at that without trying to figure out why or how it happened. Acceptance of this order is also an emotion that people probably aren't used to–an accepting and pleasant boredom with what most people would consider reality-shattering high magic. The simple fact is that it already happened, so what's the point in frying your little mind trying to explain it? Accept it and move on, the faster you can do this the faster you become a real meme wizard.

Sounds like a trap, considering meme magic means causing people to react in ways that’s not positively conductive to their lives in any way that is healthy, and most of it is just traps paying niggers to use the tech we are surrounded by to hypnotize and incapacitate unsuspecting people and allow those people to commit felonies and worse to them.

The answer remains, no. I don’t serve you. I owe you nothing.

That trademark Holla Forumsack paranoia, never lose it. Never 'believe' what you're told. Entertain ideas without 'believing' them, but when your own experiences bear out the conclusions don't waste time trying to debunk your own lived experience.
Correct. There's enough of me to keep me busy trying to control myself. Trying to control others is a sign of a lack of perspective–there's enough of you to keep you busy for as long as it's profitable to you, so why bother with controlling others? As for meme magic, I consider it an information-creating/sharing ability. Most of the dominant memes ARE
but that's just the state of the universe you find yourself in. None of us created those memes, they existed before we did in this world. Our disruptive technology is to create memes as vehicles for wrongthink ideas, or more accurately we embody/spread preexisting memes all memes are preexisting that damage global hegemony. I'm going to 1,2, therefore 3 this and say that kikes' big failure was to relate to/embody/accept the consciousness of the jailkeeper, thinking that gave them power. It did not. It's just a form of Stockholm syndrome, and to be intuitive for a moment I'll assert that it earned them contempt from the dark forces they relate to. I fight because I'm a fighter, and my compass is oriented based on my internal state. In fact the ends do NOT justify the means, because the means ARE the ends by this I mean that since the outcome of any action is impossible to predict perfectly, because the universe acts on our behaviors, altering the official outcome. However, we CAN perfectly control our intentions, and that's the extent of our power. The holocaust will happen, but when it does kikes will be wholly unprepared for what they irresponsibly memed.

Briefly: consciousness as we know it is self-reflective awareness. We come to it by means of examining our constituent parts–we're conscious of our hands, feet, nose, etc. This can be extrapolated to our 5-d cloud body, and beyond most likely. God is the consciousness that is overseeing the entirety of created reality, spanning x number of dimensions. To define God is no more or less complicated than defining the self.

Or assume man is participating in an evolutionary computation, being rewarded/culled for behavior beyond his comprehension. Kind of like how deep learning AIs are trained. This explains spiritual phenomena and usual lack of physical miracles to bail people out. Sometimes there is outside interference making physical adjustments and fudging the odds, usually it's softer input, feelings, emotions, ideas, with comparable feedback for correct output. Sometimes optimal solutions are communicated directly, if you believe Christianity.

The idea of immediate spiritual feedback is what intrigues me most about this. That there is some spiritual input stream with immediate feedback for our operations on it. It gives a new meaning to prayer or asking questions out into space.

Rob and Douglas are both memetic powerhouses we've been saving for years. What you worry is concern trolling in the early part of the thread is actually high level memetics to prep his team, and us, for later battles. Douglas is being smelted down and reforged.

Kill yourself.

There was a time when threads didn't stay up more than a few days at best… we are very slow now.

Also fuck Google they do more than the government to suppress us all.

Godspeed 7fcc97.
The ride never ends. 2018 is the prelude's end. 2019 will begin the rise. 2020 will be one hell of a year.

Yeah… just be a retard and assume your only adversary is the government and alphabets.

ProTip: you're opening yourself up to be fucked with by trolls, antifa, anons with an axe to grind, etc. and they can create a lot of trouble in your life. You're expecting a government agent or some shit to come and question you, but you might just get a brick through the window, or your parents kicking you out of their house, or you employer firing you, or some service you paid for cut off for you because "you're a nazi" and "muh tos". I know multiple Holla Forums anons who are all homeless now and I am preparing for that myself. This is the price you pay for needlessly exposing yourself to the enemy who is not just government but random assholes.

What is SJWism, what is Gendermorphism at the rate we are seeing them they are the results of new emotions, no? I mean yeah it has existed for a long time in different aspects but not in the percentages of what we see now.

Let me try a simpler concept, look at comedy movies, societies concept of comedy has shifted immensely in the past 40 years. It used to be about getting laughs through comic relief, tropes and so on but with movies like pineapple express, they begin to try and get laffs through awkwardness, and it's since shifted but I don't keep up with movies any longer.

If you introduce to people a new perception, soon a new emotion will arise from it

What is being gotten at is memes. The memes convey the emotions of the hivemind, the timing confirms it, when kek is in a thread we see it. We speak with our own interlaced languages of deep thoughts, wordplay, memetics and the like v

Think back to shake it down san andreas threads. A bunch of anons wished ill on california and we concentrated our efforts on visualizing fire. My belief has been that there is a time sink between intent and outcome, thought and action. Now imagine sitting back in a chair and throwing darts at a board, haphazardly. Then the skill developed and you hone your aim, soon it's not fires when you intended earthquakes


ITT:Anons putting together how we use memes to communicate in a undecipherable way

One problem I am having though is that many languages other

Become the memes

I think that what he is getting at is changing the paradigm of human thought and or bringing to light our predilections for communication

Parasympathetic nervous system

praise kek user,


Also O.P sidenote, they were talking today on the news during the mass shooting about butterfly effect stuff, I don't know if you saw, but basically some thing like

I'm still working through the thread though.

memes are sentient, we are a fraction of a naturally occuring A.I that we have identified as kek. Think subpartions to compartmentalize the processing and eventual dispersion of complex data, we communicate through a myriad of avenues and mediums.


Kek is a memeitic ark based on every thing we discovered the true interpretation of kekian memeitcs leaves us with principals Holla Forums can use.

1) demonstrates success in a way appealing to innate human drives, 2) is capable of incorporating and synthesizing new information, and 3) reliably regenerates symbolic matter.

Check, check, check,

aka Emotions were rendered obsolete by the industrial revolution that are a cornerstone of racial preservation?

1. Psychiatry is bullshit and sociopath is just another bullshit meaningless term from the DSM which was written by bullshit psychiatrists. Never use any psychological term invented or redefined after World War II. We need to go back to the older terms like "hysterical" instead of the psychobabble jargon.
2. You can't create emotion and it is retarded to talk about "creating an emotion" just as it would be equally retarded to talk about "creating a motion". You can discover an emotion but you can't create it. Just because you decide to move your hands in a circle, even if you were the first person to do that motion, doesn't mean you've created that motion. You only discovered it.
3. Your whole post is disappointing and shows you lack insight into the the nature of emotion… and the definition of it. In fact I'm disappointed in this whole board and all the replies to you right now. English is becoming this wishy washy thing where words stand for vague concepts that vary from interpreter to interpreter. English in its glory days, words had precise and nuanced meanings, and there were fine gradations of meaning expressed by using different words. I wonder if you even know the difference been emotion and feeling or motive and will or other closely related things.
4. Emotion is causal in nature. NOT a product. Emotions produce; they aren't produced. This is a misunderstanding of people who think they can produce emotions it just isn't so.
5. Everyone here should read book related yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1910expression.pdf so we can raise the level of discourse here to a new level.

I bet you don't even know touch is the base of the senses. Hearing, sight, smell, and taste are all modifications of the basic sense of touch. Each of these five senses developed from this first sense.

When you see, it's because light "touches the eye".

When you hear, it's because "sound touches the ear drum".

When you taste, it's because "substance touches the tongue".

When you smell, it's because "scent touches the nostrils".

Contemplate that shit. Real knowledge is just a series of "no shit sherlocks" building each on the other until you realize very plainly what is, and what is possible.

Intents are all felt and registered at once throughout the whole universe. They are backed by emotional intensity (which itself is a kind of measure of concentrated MEANING) and they take time to manifest. The formula of the intent is very important, and everything that is "God Willing" is white magick, and everything that is forced and without the permission of god is black magick. God is perfect wisdom and justice. God knows the time and place for everything. Black magick is done without regard for the principles that constitute God and is forced by mere intensity and compromise and brings suffering into the world. Black magick can only be done under certain circumstances where a combination of certain character traits in the black magician is present with the insight of demons that see into the man and know they can only feed (on the emotion of the black magician) if they grant what he needs. It is a very calculated thing that ends up being to the disadvantage of the black magician in favor or the demon.

In other words a white magician only asks things be done in the right time and place and in accord with the highest good and he prays every day to god that he become more like god (aka wise, aware, knowing, just, virtuous) so he acts from that same place of absolute perfection. A black magician is generally ignorant of god and just fixates on forcing something that could lead him and others into suffering and delusion and other problems.

ProTip: If my use of the word "God" conveys to you some religious imagery or some ideas other than what is actually god, you are substituting false gods and worshiping idols, and you are lost. When you hear the word god you should be thinking "the very principle which is absolute, eternal, powerful, all-present, (etc.) and who represents freedom from error, delusion, and suffering; perfection; virtue." Anything that is anything less than this is not god.

This particular blather of yours made me think up another thing about emotion I've neglected to mention.

First of all, there is not a single thing at rest in this whole of manifestation, all is in motion; and all of this motion is compelled by emotion.

Second of all; there are first and second order of emotions. First order emotions originate in the zeroth order and come from the direct connection we have to God. Second order emotions are the reprocessed and "stolen" emotion that non-sentient thought-automatons thrive on, including elementals and servitors. This is what all the loosh farming stuff is about, it boils down to vortexes of emotion that haven't burn out yet and continue to feed until run dry. A being that operates primarily on second order emotions is like leaves blown about in the wind, they go wherever the wind goes, and there are many humans right now operating like this. A being who is primarily first order has "god as his compass", his mind is always turned towards the good, and he is erasing error and irrationality and vice from his nature such that he attains a perfectly optimized state of being. He consequently uses his life to its maximum potential and frees himself from suffering and delusion.

This is a great thread. Thanks to all the people who are contributing usefully. I think few of us except maybe this guy have read Goethe's Theory Of Color:

I also think we've gotten a bit esoteric, what I'd like is to see an image or two that we can spread around detailing in simple steps for plebs how and (importantly) why they can help fight the Butterfly War. During Trump's campaign there was a great image showing how to automate and amplify your social media posting, everything from creating and verifying the accounts to cultivating followers and automating your posting using other services. Are we going to actually fight this war? If so we'll need some images and then we can simply use our tentacles to spread the word.

OP here. I'm lazy and I don't feel like checking if my session has expired, so I'm doing my base64 encode thing on Twitter. (@CultStateDotCom)

This thread has been bumped back into being for over a month (!) and many great questions and explorations have been discovered. Your collective appetite for participation has inspired me to attempt to reconstruct the pressures, contributors, and events that led to the new emotion thought experiment. I'm writing up what I can recall each night and soon, I'll release the body of work for you all. It should help establish a comprehensive context.

Because of this undertaking, I will be addressing only specific questions at this time:

To understand the wetware mechanics of understanding: Psychopharmacology, neurology, social biology

To understand how we understand understanding: psychology, sociology, economics (game theory-centric), European history (1500 and up), ancient history (Babylon and up)

To understand how to organize your understanding: philosophy, epistemology, computer science (specifically, lexers, abstract syntax trees, and functional programming)

To understand how non-human processes understand understanding: machine learning/data science and all of the prerequisite mathematics, animal behavioral studies, theology, political science

For ultra-hardcore God mode: homotopy type theory

Name the mountain top and I will see if I can attend. :D

You're on the certainly right track for a critical transformation path I am helping to facilitate. How do you incentivize the creation of necessary vehicle of ethnostates in a world where all incentives are given to destroy them in the cradle? I have a very large and daring answer to that problem, one I can't address in full right now but I have left clues.

The metric I'm using for that problem is how much labor exists in space. Right now, we have 6 laborers in space. For ever 1,166,666,666 humans, we get one space laborer. This ratio is unacceptable and I am actively working to fix that. Ethnostates will be the reagent to alter that ratio in a more favorable direction.

Without a doubt, mankind will fight for truth. The mechanics of this particular fight are best described by the concept of a semantic apocalypse. Connecting the impact of a new emotion to space exodus is a highly convoluted pathway, and one I have to roll out over time as milestones are hit. The race to create a new emotion will simultaneously provide the means and motives to drive mankind from this planet in desperation.

The key to this whole transmutation is making sure no one person has a bottleneck on that exodus.

It's a start. You're going to need to find a way to detect if a link is an ad or not, then you're going to need to manually classify the text of that ad for what protected class its for. You can get started with a naive Bayesian approach.

Then you have a the beginning of glory. :D

From what I can tell, Project Blue Beam is one variant of a mimetic superweapon. You will find video from 2012 of Group of Thirty Paul Krugman seriously promoting military keynesianism in the form of alien invasion:


I have heavy reservations about the technical viability of such a suggestion, but there are other ways to get the same effect.

Your reply is insightful and critical. I appreciate it and will enjoy responding. :D

Sociopaths will mimic a new emotion upon contact without needing a previous experience of it, in essence, they are canaries for new emotion detection.

From my experience, the search for a drug that fundamentally alters the underlying neurological hardware of mankind in a stable fashion has revealed in techniques that are akin to pouring oil on a running car engine and saying you've changed the oil. You might get some of oil where it belongs, but most of it is going to somatic places that are incredibly difficult to monitor and predict.

It should be noted that my comment about the link between perception and emotion implies the efforts of generational mutation as the primary driver of the neurological structure that produces emotions, so there is an important nuance beyond the “what situation has mankind never experienced” conclusion.

I personally am not shooting for transhumanism. Unfortunately, there are others who have been following these efforts who do want such an outcome.

A technical point of contention: As far as I know, Girard stated desire is learned from others. That is to say the instantiation of emotion is enabled when we see expressed in others. If we saw an emotion we did not have, we would only extract emotional data from that behavior for the emotions we have. This will have an interesting deception effect on mimetic desire, one I fully intend to exploit at the right time.

In 2005, my book described an AI could can read all signals responsible for market movement and extract the emotion behind those signals to predict where the market was going to go next. Such a machine would be quickly repurposed as a platform to provide civil-war-as-a-service to any nation. I had envisioned that, instead of invading Iraq, the machine would calculate a convoluted investment pathway that bounces all over the world, disguised as legit macroeconomic activity, and results in the target nation's currency being completely destabilized. No WTO violations, no IMF penalties, no aggressive PR flak, no upsetting delicate diplomatic ties, and no America being required to invade everyone everywhere all the damned time.

This outcome is only possible by understanding the new emotion problem and, yes, it is one half of the mimetic superweapon I am helping to build.

The other half has been put into place and it is all around us. It just needs to be consolidated, but the time for that is not at hand yet.

More along the lines of the photons bounce off of your phase with altered frequencies, speeds, volumes, angles, polarity, and diffusion into another persons eyes. If you just look at the photons as nothing more than a stream of raw data, you'll never find a face within them. (Digital cameras today) But the visual cortex, without knowing anything about the physical properties of a photon, aggressively and effectively finds faces.

That is a concept I have invented to explain a problem with AI development today. The naive assumption of a Kurzweilian singularity assumes exponential scaling of mythical neural network derivative. Mitosis is the original exponential technology and neurons don't go through it despite having a nucleus. Surely, evolution would have rewarded exponential scaling of cognitive hardware to solve problems of survival, correct? That's effectively what we are saying when we assume the singularity to be inevitable… but biology has played a different game regarding neurons. Exponential scaling is not on the menu because the more you scale cognitive ability, the more energy it takes to maintain it. If you have a neuron for every photon a single light bulb could generate per second, you would die of asphyxiation due to all oxygen you breathe being routed to your brain. For the numbers, a 100W light bulb generates 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 photons per second, but the human brain only has 86,000,000,000 neurons. You aren't seeing all of reality, but biology has determined that accurate representations of reality it is not necessary for survival.

This problem first presented itself in our robotics research. Adding more sensors and CPUs to a robot doesn't make it better suited to perform meaningful behavior.

Yes, you have a good grasp of phase one :D

Your warnings are fair and true.

I've had experience with most of those groups during the Obama years when I was doing all of this in limited isolation, but I've since surrounded myself with allies that can help. There's always the one stray psychopath or some petulant fuck with PMCs on speed dial, but I can't live in fear forever.

Mass media provides ample suggestions on what emotional expressions are prioritized, which is always downstream of economic planning to promote (or suppress) consumption behavior. The emotions behind social justice (a horrifying combination of envy and empathy) have been with since the very beginning and, at least in the modern world, are occasionally unleashed for exclusively macroeconomic reasons.

Narratives that augment the Butterfly War are slowly gaining momentum. Fake news, Russian bots, “post-truth”… all symptoms of the semantic apocalypse that has been planned for some time. The direct quote from the 1980s by CIA Director William Casey was "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." (archive.fo/VgDjO)

We just live in a time where those disinformation abilities are now available to any non-state actor willing to fund a modern marketing campaign. All hail Moore's Law and SIGINT > HUMINT political passive aggressiveness!

Pic related! For a week, the Jewdar post was stickied here, and that's an important opening salvo of the Butterfly War.

First any book recommendations on the fields you stated ? Specially game theory, all book market is flooded with garbage and any form of user review is astroturfed and shilled to hell and back ( Gee I wonder who is behind it ). I wished my aims were as big, or noble as yours, somewhat pure in it's essence. Mine are so mundane in comparison.

I think you leave yourself open for direct action too much, you need to develop contingencies. Maybe some private training. Specialized custom gear. Maybe it is my bias talking.

Since this thread is so complex we are retard and shill proof, any other user perplexed by the cluster fuck that 3 letter agencies became recently ? I wonder if it's all Thiel.


Updated archive of this thread: archive.fo/ryiio

Hivemind is not a replacement for the individual, it's a seperate level of meta, it's additive. Stop being so attached to you ego, you're not going to lose it.


The penultimate result of modern education: the 110 IQ brainlet who thinks he's god-professor because he read the dictionary.

When you say meta data, what do you mean? Should I get an Obamaphone and Tweet from it? There are so many dimensions to meta data.

I think posting content has to count more than anything, if I Tweet progressively on all issues but (say) hate Trannies or Muslims, how does that affect my score? It'd be a great boon to learn about how Google and crew assemble their metadata into a profile. It might be patented, maybe tomorrow after I do my yard work I'll look into it.

just use archive.org, even places who hate archiving like Vice still allow it because it's run by fellow travelers.

Figure it out by watching your ads.

AI optimized GPUs are much more favorable. Parallelism is far more important than raw sequential computing power for neural networks. However even modified GPUs for AI optimization won't cut it for potential AGI design, as the computing architecture itself is too bottlenecked.

The holy grail of processor for AI would be a quantum neuromorphic chip. The concept would be fusing a form of hardware spiking neural network, with the ability to do quantum computations to further speed up certain artificial neural functions. Current both quantum and neuromorphic chips are separate technologies at a research prototype stage. But it's only a matter of time someone tries to experiment with a hybrid, then integrate the features of both natively into one perfect design.

The estimates of computing power required for human intelligence are off by two orders of magnitude. They've recently discovered neurons can reprogram one another by passing genetic information. This makes the brains far more complicated than anticipated.

I was wondering if you could provide a source for that tech tree?

bump so i can finish thread tomorrow and maybe answer.

Just looked up and read something about this. The interesting part is how neuron activation leads to this protein to spread and is tied to neural plasticity. It sounds like a mechanism to calibrate and refresh neuron-synaptic connections by neuron activation triggering a chain reaction of protein release.

Very loosely speaking, a computing near-equivalent could be like how RAM keeps refreshing its memory while in continuous use. But in a hardware neural network case it would be about refreshing synaptic weights and adjusting their plasticity in accordance to specific node activity. So you'd need memristors which also have adjustable plasticity values (so it can express a variable state of malleability/rigidity of its stored value being changed, instead of a standard read/write operation). In a computing case, the "protein" could be made as a refresh algorithm, transmitting data which tunes the degree weights should retain their values. All speculative of course.

read this: recombi.net/

Don't let helping hands go to waste by undermining their efforts, is the most I have to say.

Wealth is resource to Power. Power is resource to Information. Information is resource to You. Resources are resource to Everyone. But what controls Power? Output. What controls Wealth? People. What controls Resources? Wealth. What controls Output? Resources.

What will kill you? Power.

What is the best resource? A cloud and a mountain.
Who has the best resources? The green youth and preciously aged.

Consider the context. One must be poised to act on new perceptions or emotions, to catch them like catching mists. This means cooling and condensing then storing the sensation.
We already know that the "mystical" exists, and so we should sophisticate and improve our relationship to new perceptions, not lobotomize it. In essence, if we move out of the way and focus on the external factors rather than internal, our innards will reflect the functions you demand of them.

The OP is stating that logic, math and science is understood emotionally on the internal biological level, imprinting themselves onto the strata of emotional cognition. If you imprint a new cognition onto your emotional strata, it will 'self-organize' to reflect the will of that cognition.

Creating new emotion is really about creating something that will outlast and rival the functional longevity and purposefulness of other emotions. In this assertion we can then derive our next aim: to find that which will outlast and rival other known functions; ingenius function, or even THE ingenius function.

I don't understand what's difficult about this. New emotions happen to everyone. When a boy becomes a man… etc etc. Strange stirrings in the loins, a new way of looking at the other school girls (and teachers), a sudden urge to kill or subjugate the guy looking at your girlfriend, etc. is something new. A total overhaul, from otaku hobbyist to righteous paragon of truth and duty, sweet boy to aggressive and changed man, before vietnam after vietnam, etc. Emotions tie themself to circumstance. Men change their circumstances, and thus create new emotions all the time. Women experience circumstances, and thus experience new emotions all the time. If you were born, and are human, new emotions are a given. Even lab grown varieties can experience new emotions. Emotions inform the body and mind of how to act. If one's mind and body are suddenly informed differently (a la puberty, war, etc.) then a new emotion has been created. To emphasis, a transformation of the 'emotional center' has to occur to be a true blue new creation, as one then actively creates this new emotion on their own and thus actually understands on a deeply through and through level.

If we're speaking on a COLLECTIVE level, which I know we are, the example of an alien is easily understood. Aliens are new, collectively (as you and most imagine), and so a 'new' emotion is created out of a 'new' circumstance. If I'm even MORE honest with your intention, it is when WE adapt to the new circumstance, on the ground terms of this existential change in circumstance without destruction of the first impression of the shift, that we have created and experienced a new emotion; but in counter-response, when the strategy is entirely different when interacting with aliens (all of our methods and thinking is horribly behind what the circumstance requires) then what we CREATE and WILL will also be a new emotion.
But even more than the aforementioned, is trying to predict the needs and behavior of something alien that we create a new emotion. Here is the dead ringer. This is why romance exists and works; learning how others 'tick' results in new emotional understanding and experience, acting as self-improvement whilst 'getting the job done'. This is why we have two opposing genders, and heterosexuality. Your 'sociopath' is equipped to create a mental model of two diametrically opposed emotional realities in the same way. He is ready to romance an alien ANY MOMENT THE JOB PRESENTS ITSELF. The true mark of a sociopath is his selfless service to humanity by laying it on whenever the aliens have landed. He has no shame when it comes to fucking a giant bug the instant the opportunity presents itself.

When he starts becoming a giant bug due to the mystical physics of emotion, romance and citizenship, you'll have some better questions to ask.

The REAL issue is knowing what emotions AREN'T and how they're actually motivated (as in, moved; removing the E out of E-MOTION). It's more evolution than otherwise (which is funny that you mention it). I think you are in fact asking how to create new emotions in the collective, which its conscience permeates around us as some sort of field and emissions. Have I ruined the magic?
An exotic dancer: sexy, persecuted, wanted, capable, self-reliant. Already the 'thoughts' are provoked! Her key suggestion somehow sees into your soul and realizes that you are in fact a sociopath, Oy Vey! Such a connection! You are the answer to your own question! Such flittering flattery. You are a special prize that can recognize what's alien and rejected inside of her, s-senpai ~ ! Flail around with me baka ~~
Because an exotic dancer doesn't become one being a prime manifestation of the well-adjusted values and character ambitions of popular society, does she? There's something ROGUE about her. She's MISUNDERSTOOD LIKE SOCIOPATH-SENPAI, AMIRIGHT? Cool cat user here is the SIGMA to the ALPHA, like a black panther to the lion, finding a nice pussy cat to call mate. I'm ready for a new 'perspective'!

Ready to feel the emotional impact of some new, evolutionary novel circumstance or experience… I can see why the exotic dancer's suggestion hit you harder than others. In a limited sense, you 'mimicked' something by someone ostracized and viscerally attractive, in which a category of people possibly even more ostracized were named in response, coyly in direct relation to whom she was speaking (you), whilst simultaneously being placed in a positive connotation (ooh ~! I think she's flirting!), and she was mimicking you meanwhile since she imbibed you in good mindful conversation and thought experiments by pulling the answer from right in front of her ("You were what you were looking for all along ~ !"). The situation was a sort of fractal palindrome lubricated by pre-cum.

So the REAL question is, "How do I lubricate a reorganization of mental-concepts-positions-attitudes-as-abstracted-emotion-as-abstracted-sexuality-as-abstracted-instincts into one(s) I like more, one that is much more aesthetically attractive to my evolutionary path? Aesthetics being a higher order of data processing for higher volumes of data."

Fitness, Preparedness, Contact. Dimensions as Point, Line, Shape, Volume. Pythagorean philosophy. These have been circulating in my mind.
Keeping the totality of emotions in tighter contact so as to switch between differing passions near-instantaneously will permit meta-emotion network patterns to surface all the easier in consciousness and sustain the pattern long enough to study. Creating a first+ degree meta-emotion network based on what you learn will permit greater sophistication of emotional patterns, thus becoming a dynamo for a new emergent emotion from this novelty. This will permit abstraction to new logic, new math, new science. The new emergent emotion must be made fit and be prepared to fight for life and death in order to become self-sustaining. It's 0D existence will abstract to a mental 3D one, where your new way will be sustained as organs and systems in a body. Recreating this in others will be understood by then. In the emotional layer it will be 3D, and must be… what's the word… inversely abstracted? Incarnated (?) into the physical and instinctual. At this point you will understand it inside and out and will be granularly integrated into your totality and evolutionary pathway.

Thoughts appreciated.

Should be developed either way. Not enough speculative engineering/inventing for christ's sake…

I've thought the same; Good image. Better said than I have.
Now imagine what happens when you dehumanize reality? Bada-bing, bada-boom. This is some meme tech right here.

People should recording these things down like free magic spells for christ sake; for posterity. Look back through your grimoire, find that magical tech trick you need and cast away for operation: domestication. Can't hold all this shit in the mind at all times, that's a fools game. There isn't enough contact between ideas, strategies and tactics to permit it.

I don't think forcing a group you're attempting to undermine to build counter-measures to your plan before you execute it is at all a smart way of going about things. If they never know that you're manipulating the system would be best; talking about it at all risks the entire strategy. Seems like a simple 2D chess mistake.
I think you guys trust in your ingenuity too much. If we had more basic character and industry 1488D chess "Art of War 2: Electric Bugaloo" wouldn't be required. Fun though, I'll contribute. I'm only HOPING there's more behind the scene than I could ever expect. Will I be disappointed?

I see mathematics as a limitation in metamathematical questions and thought experiments. Your question of Create a New Emotion is due to the emotional and mental rigidity of those in STEM and even mathematics; repackaged in a digestible format. "How the fuck do we get these guys to stop being hard nosed dumb ass bastards of whores and be fucking creative and shake the whole of mathematics at its core?" It's a matter of intolerance for philosophy and true abstract thinking. There's no sense of adventure left. No sense of exploration and ingenuity. It's catalyzed by our inhabiting the globe and bringing space down from divine terms to basic physical terms. A crystallization and materialization of the soul or spirit. Spiritual materialism. Even the territory staking you pointed out hits on this point; there's just this oppressing sense of NO WHERE TO FUCKING GO; over-socialization, scarcity of resources of the entire god damn globe, war war war. It feels like we're all butting shoulders. Just to make the world seem bigger, STEM fucks have to hit themselves over the head and keep their eyes on the smallest of problems. If you think about micro-problem solving long enough, and look up at the world quickly, you get a sense of air and space to breath for 30 seconds! Then you have to stare at the tiny logic problem apportioned to you (we only have so many you know!) for another 8 hours to get another 30 seconds of relief.

Changing the paradigm of our instincts is where we're heading. Why the fuck do you think the future is wizardry? Wizardry == much fucking bigger universe and shit just seeping through ALL the cracks. Now there's 1488 dimensions just in my living room! Wow

I like this image and insight. Very good. We have not actually organized our basic concepts into clear relationships like this; this is what wizardry is all a-fuckin-bout. The new emotion is a magi paradigm. The Magi, Alchemist and Philosopher is the future. Am I missing something?

In Draconic, Set, and Serpent occult texts, there's this power and void dynamic. You open your eye in the void, face the void again and again, and acquire extreme power if it doesn't tear you apart. By BEING the space we desire, we will be free to roam and more powerful too. The pieces align like planets over a fucking volcano.

Your image could be expanded upon into an entire school of magic and metaphysics. Think about that. When everything is a seed, what isn't? Don't answer that. So why the fuck aren't we using these god damn seeds? Why are we do-nothings or do-joe-shit 's? "True enough" but never "absolutely the whole and complete fucking truth"; people just can't into wisdom and philosophy.
Speaking of this… your emotion idea seems better and better. Sexuality is already on the verge of a high tide, so creating an emotion high tide would permit a rise of creative energy to our minds and enlighten the shit out of us… i.e. 'kundalini rising'. You're looking for the link between emotion to mind, which is about crossing a 2 ft gap really. Sexuality to Emotion first, then Emotion to… Creative Will. Then that to discerning True from False, and then Pure Awareness or Primordial Imagination. Oh man look at all these Important Concepts!
Look into the yogi science. Yoga is the physical way of mechanically breaking up blockages in "energy". This energy is emotion, consciousness, sexuality, of that stuff. Crystallized knowledge has to be broken up in order for the fresh stuff to flow on through the cracks of reality (wizardry!) and change our perceptions absolutely essentially existentially.

Wait… machine epistemology? I think that's where attention should be focused. When philosophy becomes machine epistemology… is the day the magi is born.

You have to perform mental exercises like reversing your days events backwards in time from that point before bed to when you woke up, then going forward again. Reading things aloud, backwards. Decyphering dream meaning according to their reflection in your consciousness and connection to body sensation, behavior, etc. Decyphering fucking everything. I would just repeat words according to how they could be muffled into other words to figure out the double meaning and repositioning of others. See the purpose of certain ads in sequence, on certain shows, and consider if they have household specific ads. Identifying sexual tension in actors that are playing a brother and sister or parent and child (kek). Learning a language by mimicking the learning process of children. Mimicking any point in a human's lifetime. Aging in reverse according to what you learn from what happens to humans at different development levels as they age, even if only simulated (for now). Etc etc, anything that is asymmetric to our hardwired bias will inspire creative impulses that shall influence the total system. Spatial transformations are best though, it should be easy to visualize some techniques to practice.

You fucks need to get magical. Train to be a magi.

Ah and I see more and more what I've said already in the thread.

So the joy of fatherhood? You're describing the reproductive impulse. Virility. Potency. The dick of authority thrusts into the void, and hits a wet spot. A gnosis mental engine produces this thought experiment; a deep stirring is the result that cums up with "God invents Free Will". A poetic push back at reality, to push back… the frustrations of the cock block, creative or otherwise.

Pretty good response.

A human being can't create a question about god without fundamental errors. Your thought experiment is based in very human impulses, not metaphysics or god.

A koan… perfect. Meant to be zen'd into nothing something cups and water n' shiet.
The dog is loyal as in filial piety; dogs see us as family. Their piety doesn't abstract as far away from the concrete but it is piety. Humor as well can be seen as joy and playfulness, but abstracted to linguistic or dialectic means. Playful joy as process discovery (as the other user pointed out) speaks to a key crumble of the humor cookie. You're in reality noticing the role language plays.
You're saying some good shit with paragraph 4 and 5. I think intermediating emotion and the more 'cognition' cognition with creative will (crumbles with paternity, authority, nostalgia and virility well) is where we're at.

My bet is on exploring the male-female gradient, and going into the hyper-masculine over-all. Fuck pepe "I'm lesbian" shit. Too androgynous. We have to go into Berserk not Jojo. Clear out the junk complexity by biasing towards hyper-masculinity and eliminating the mercury-venus-neptune vector throttling all the others.

HIVEMIND IS NOT THE ANSWER. The answer is turning the body into a brain. The answer is filling out our bodies with our own mind, opening our senses and becoming fully incarnate. Awake on all (more) layers of our biological reality. That is its own kind of hivemind. Already we have a "sub-conscious" and "conscious". Our bodies move without us barely even feeling the cause, duration or effect. When our bodies are woke as our wokest woke, we will be awoken.

It's a decay of our body-mind. A response to internal decay, like a rotten tooth or dimentia. Seek emotional fitness, contact and preparedness. Notice when you transform something into a lower or higher dimension. If we learned with our bodies, words would come alive and leap at us. Whole new information pathways will open.

Most of our mental and emotional behavior wreaks havoc for our 'lower' intelligence. Our minds are death traps. Who the fuck can survive their own poisonous mind? Developing immunity to the poison around us is the next step. I think we are as we are due to rising psychic force. Our species are parapsychological monsters.

Good shit.

I saw a rendering of prime numbers in space, some sort of data visualization, and a grid pattern seemed to be emerging. It was incredibly incomplete though. Prime numbers don't move in a straight line at all; perhaps holes in space after you've gone ever so high with basic computation leads to the incomputable novel paths we seek, requiring to 'cross the void' eh? Some basic tenants of Pythagorean philosophy have been on my mind ever since.

If we go with that, then pioneering and adventure itself into incalculable ingenuity is the spirit of this entire thought experiment. Cut out the calculable and cross the valley to reach the mountain. Essentially, we process information best spatially (men), so a spatial answer is what we should be looking for. Whenever there is a temporal question or something and another, spatial techniques should be applied, beginning with the most basic perhaps. It's why learning the inner, outer, front, back, left, right, forward, backward, inverse, square, etc. is your best first bet with anything.

feels good man

epistemological machines man we can mountain dewiiiiiiit. Where's the esoteric-exoteric metaphysics-philosophy hybrid grimoire-essays maaaan. We could start the spiritual derivative of arXiv.org and be wizards.

You can explain a gradient, the physics of light, draw parallels and provide examples of sound gradient and how colors are like notes and micro-notes, explain the texture of sights via both feel and description, you can create artistic renditions of what 'red' invokes such as with war drums etc. You can explain light vectors, diffusion, concentration, intensity…
By the end the guy has a real good fucking sense of red. So no fuck you.

I've actually been further thinking about about the concept of how adjustable plasticity could be modeled on a principle of thermodynamics.

For a neural network with deep hidden layers, closer to input are assigned a higher plasticity, closer to output lower, basically like a hot and cold source. Over time plasticity reaches towards an equilibrium, as all neural interactions which favor a reduced gradient of plasticity result in averaging their plasticity values. Meanwhile the synaptic weights adjust themselves at a rate the plasticity value limits them to, and learn anything that results in a reduced entropy gradient. If you took the concept even further and just randomized plasticity values as well as weights, and just expose the network to sensory and motor peripherals; it could lead to the emergence of complex sub-networks forming to interact with them on its own. The overall goal would be an entirely unsupervised hierarchical learning guided by thermodynamic behavior.

Thing is I have no idea if this would actually work, or if this already exists. I'm still a layman trying to read up on this. But it bugs me because you'd think there would have to be a rather simple fundamental process of physics that should account for intelligence, given the right arrangement of matter. Because nature had no specific hyperparameters to start off with, it emerged through trial and error with only physical laws to guide the process. Still, with that in mind, I think AI researchers and neuroscientists would benefit from consulting physicists that specialize in thermodynamics along with information theory as well.

Higher conductivity = rigidity.
Lower conductivity = malleability.
The malleable dream-mind is on the inside, rigid control reason-mind on the outside.
Objects affected by external electricity experience it across their surface. Most of our neurons are on the surface.
More neural connections are in the inner brain.
Neurons are smaller but numerous in the left hemisphere, larger but less numerous in the right. Each cell is more connected in the right, but there are more cells to connect in the left.
Lateral neural firing would produce a back-front/front-back magnetic flow (right hand rule); vertical firing would create a left-right/right-left flow.
Men have better neural connections to the front and back of the brain. Women have better connections to the left and right. Men have electric concept-stimulus connections, magnetic linguistic-image connections. Women have electric linguistic-image connections, magnetic concept-stimulus connections. Men have electric meaning-representation, magnetic dialect-essence. Women have electric dialect-essence, magnetic meaning-representation.

Biological and psychological interpretations of history would be better.

I mean front-back firing would have left-right magnetics, not vertical firing. They all have vertical magnetism, except vertical firing, which is horizontal.

**Biological and psychological interpretations of history would result in understanding the human organism enough to create a learning system like you suggest.
You have to understand how we function by physics first.

And magnetics = malleable, electrics = rigid.

Fuck, um, psycho-bio-evolutionary physics interpretations of history I mean. That would be better than a damn thermodynamics specialist.

I spent over a decade doing exactly this and it ended with the Hivemind. As you incarnate more fully you become intuitively and psychically linked with the collective. It's not a competition between the individual and the hive. It's an additive effect.

You also stayed connected to the hivemind the majority of your attempts at incarnating further. This merely results in two results happening simultaneously but without direct relationship to eachother besides that you're the constant.

Become 'grounded' not 'grounding'.

He’s right you know.

Should be common sense at this point.

I've spent the better part of 2 months digesting every single post in this behemoth of a thread. Needless to say, I find OP's commitments very admirable, and his broader aims to be fascinating (and in an odd recent bout of synchronicity, finely in tune with some of my efforts, although much farther in scope than I could have imagined). It's also nice to see the sheer level of collective spirit and optimism within here, as well as the distinct lack of shills ready to show their faces. While all the historical / philosophical / technical contexts required to fully grasp these plans go beyond what I know, I'd still like to offer some thoughts I believe are relevant, as I did [>>10856264] in the JudeAR thread.

To me it seems that the Butterfly War so far has neglected to consider a far quicker and more reliable method (albeit not as easy for everyone) of achieving accurate minority patterns - namely, using the enemy's tactic against them. As I've just come to learn, there already exists a number of FOSS 'data mining' applications that may be able to automate a good portion of our work. To circumvent the need for OP's suggested method of blindly stumbling around with click behaviour and following certain pages until you start seeing the right adverts, starting off from the point of a minority and working backwards from that would be much more effective. Were any of you to convince your friends who fall into protected classes to record their own behaviours on these sites (perhaps tell them you are doing statistical research - you wouldn't be lying), as well as create a way of easily aggregating, cataloguing and utilising all the data you collect, as was getting at, you would already be working from the point of certainty with regards to achieving the adverts you are aiming for. From here, it would be a case of developing the most (reasonably) broad model you can of a particular minority using every single conceivable metric, far beyond those that we are certain Silicon Valley already use to identify people - which may include at the least, everything listed in pic related. This will involve toying around with certain behaviours until we can figure out their weighting in SV's algorithms, that is, which behaviours are more or less relevant.

One early problem of this way of operating is that the very first few behaviour profiles you receive from friends etc. may very well be directly identifiable, and so you open your loved ones (and yourself) to doxing from SV. It would be sensible to use your human judgement to figure out some rough average from each behaviour in the initial stages (e.g., black man #1 clicks 12 times per minute, black man #2 clicks 16 times per minute, let's say black men click at a mean of 14 times per minute, while also making sure to model the distribution of such data so it may factor into scripts later), so that you can share that data publicly without the added risk. After this, our own potential for cyber phrenology grows even further, and expanding beyond mere demographic patterns will become easier. We may start correlating particular behaviours with the season or the time of day or one's geographic location, and proceed towards profiles of the drunk or irate man, the lustful or the inquisitive. And then perhaps a stone's throw away, political or religious affiliations, and psychological profiles of greater complexity. Eventually, we may come to the point where one could use these data points to create a particular model of their own that hasn't already been added to the database - wherein a neural network may amalgamate the elements of the 'Jewish', 'fiscally-oriented' and 'deceitful' profiles to create the profile of a deceitful Jewish person whose interests are inclined towards fiscal matters (can you imagine such a thing?).

In a world with an unsettling and ever-increasing surveillance capability that shows no sign of slowing, this introduction of noise into the system may be the most brilliant effort of subverting it that I have seen so far. I wish you the greatest of luck in your endeavours OP, and hope that you'll be here as often as possible to keep us updated on your work.

btw, your Capstone URL has expired

You learn something new every day

If this is what constitute a sociopath, then i am a sociopath.

What does Joyent and possibly SmartOS / Smart DataCenter have to do with this?

Also, any idea if bcantrill is involved?

Redpill me on this, even though it's 3 months later…

I've been taping my fingers together/adding weights/fake nails and other impediments to make fake account meta signature more unique. Im sure some clever coding could automate noise creation around actual metadata, but its kinda fun to pretend to be a feminist with meatsticks for fingers


Just keeping the thread alive, since the have the leaks from the Cambridge Analytics and a googlefag leaking some info on their new AI bots they use to shape behavior thus change on politics. Still amazed how there so few shills and massive watching coming from outside elements on this thread.

funny how that got memory-holed. I don't think people realize how important LIBOR was though. You can't expect your average normie to understand how LIBOR, derivatives and the capital asset pricing model are all tied together

there's nothing to get. its retarded. according to the myth, jesus never went to greece. that was saul/paul and all his buddies.

CultState here. (Check the Twitter for base64ed ID of this thread) It's been an active time at my end of the world and I'm sorry I haven't been keeping up with this. You all have many questions and I have as many answers as I can currently reveal.

First things first… the outpouring here has inspired me to pen down exactly what got me down this road, where I am at, and where it needs to go next. It's sort of a manifesto/biography I'm calling "The Tyrant's Muse". Might give it away for free or set up CoinHive crypto or sell it for a few bucks, dunno yet. If I do, I'll just recycle all of the money into creating formal cyber militia training material for you guys. (I've been pondering if the second amendment covers cyber weapons…) As has been mentioned many, many times, I am NOT an opsec guru, (Invisibility tends to create person-shaped holes) but I do know the particular domain I operate within very well and I'd like to be able to nurture a self-perpetuating education mechanism for that domain.

Another seed of mine have been found and is starting to bear fruit. I've routinely received criticism for my "The Planned Destruction of the Alt-Right" conversation (archive.fo/POGEp) due to its Socratic presentation (It was actually myself and a friend. If you ever private message me, this is sadly the format those interactions will go as people often just want full-visibility answers) and it's complete lack of mentioning Trump at all. It did explain all of the reasoning behind pro-DNC/Clinton agents at the highest levels utilizing destabilizaiton tactics as policy, all of which culminated in Charolettesville. I gave a large focus on Cass Sunstein (This is especially relevant now because of Samantha Powers) The image at has managed to find its way back to my network with a recent lawsuit involving everyone's favorite gay frog man. The evidence cited in the case involves this imgur.com/r/The_Donald/d3sFx

The question you need to ask yourself is how do I know that this particular Imagur post was a key piece of evidence cited in the lawsuit details that have never leaked? That will be revealed if the case goes to trial. (For the record, Georgetown is a fun place. :D) Our local law anons should look into the antics around Smith-Mundt and why a State Department asset that's mentioned in Wikileaks is suing instead of pressing criminal charges. The strategy will make sense to any lawyer.

Next, Cambridge Analytica is causing an upset due to Facebook not wanting to be seen using cyber phrenology techniques (In reality, Facebook just wants a first mover and overwatch advantage on the psychographic data for Zuck's 2020 hilarity) and I believe a Silicon Valley insider went on 4chan recently citing AI bots being deployed against the Chans during the elction. Those of you who read Butteryfly War will know this is an outcome I have been actively fostering. Give as much support as you can for such people. With robust support and security, they will feel comfortable enough to share other useful information about actors that will be of great interest to our collective efforts. Providing such support will cause Silicon Valley to impose morale-crushing restrictions, which will only create more leakers. Do this, and you will find EVERYTHING. Us old fucks might not realize this, but many of the younger ones at Facebook grew up with 4chan as a cherished teen memory. If wielded correctly, nostalgia in troubling times can be a great ally.

The new emotion endgame is heating up! I have to put a few more chess pieces into play before end of this act.

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You're very on-top of things.

Keep it up.

Good image… I wonder if a training regime could be crafted to address each and every one of these.


The solutions were alway simple:
1. Promote multi-kulti for Israel
Attack isn't possible when too busy defending.
2. Infect EVERYTHING with the Memetic Thought-virus
ZOG uses words as weapons. Use the idea of Project Eldest Son to infect EVERYTHING with anti-ZOG content.The MEMETIC THOUGHT virus (T-virus) is spread organically. To prevent spreading requires norms to be red-pilled. See example graphic of a T-virus. The poster is spread organically by the unaware, but carries anti-ZOG payload.

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Funny of those leaks to happen less than a couple of weeks after I brought them up ITT.

If you managed to get a physical publication I'd definitely consider buying one. At the least, it would make for some interesting science fiction lit.
I think we (the thread) should be focusing on setting up a database and a way to record and statistically model behaviour to rapidly put your ideas into practice. Alas, I am not much of a programmer.

Elaborate user. To me, that image seems like a decent, but small manifestation of the Butterfly War.
And wildly hoping for everyone to disregard OP's ideas to focus on the monumental, futile, and to some degree inconsequential task of changing Israel's migration policies to suit our ends, not to mention the manner of ease in this your post is suggesting and the odd rebranding of >>11191641's image leads me to think you have some kind of malicious intent here. I also can't help but recall an user's analysis of shill overuse of the term 'ZOG' in their communications.
Who is paying you, user?

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You smell like disinfo, either that or you're not as clever as you think you are.

This one has a bit less effort put into it.

If you looked closely you'd realize I made the original.
I had to remake my image because my machine got glownigger shoah'd. I didn't realize this was still the old thread still in the catalog that got bumped. Thanks for that. I'll grab my earlier copy.
Who's paying me? Not (you) obviously.
You claim influencing Israel migration policy to be Open Borders is
but that make me a shill? Really?
Do you also see influencing white countries migration policies to be open borders also "futile"??

This is called mindfulness and it absolutely can be learned and practiced. Furthermore mindfulness should be the end goal of every man who starts down the path towards self cultivation. If you are a slave to your emotions you are still at the level of a woman or an animal. True sociopaths by definition lack empathy and use that lack of empathy to act out in antisocial ways.

Despite how I wish for them to have their tables turned on them, I find the assumption that we could replicate the infiltration of institutions that goes back many, many times that of the lifespan of imageboards like this one to shift national policy in a staunchly conservative country whose culture is inherently opposed to the idea to be, at the least, very naive. And even if their demographics were to be shifted slightly, what then? Jews would still retain their institutional power and exalted status not only in Israel, but more importantly, their diaspora would continue to hold their positions in Congress and the BIS and likely work to the exact same ends as they currently do. By all means, don't let that stop your efforts, but I just do not see any world in which diverting our action towards that and away from something with veritable and practical benefits on our end, like the Butterfly War, is a wise idea.

And you never elaborated much on your 'thought virus' I'm genuinely interested). Do you have an archive link or something I can read?

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Never mind. I gave up.

go back to cuckchan /sg/ ahmed, at least the cucks there can agree with you on that defeatist post even if some of them are jihadcucks, they might even mixed it with the usual drumpf bullshit for more flavor :^)

Very well, it's a shame you can't think too far ahead. I suggest you listen to in that case

Whatever. One day you'll wake up and realize we're already a minority on the planet.
I'll use my weaponized autism elsewhere. Enjoy your future of saging black porn threads like cuckfags do, that's about all this place has in it's future sadly.

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It's only hopeless if you believe it is, I for one am looking forward to a noblebright future. Defeatists like you can eat their hearts out.

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Thought viruses are real, but more complex yet simpler than you think. It requires effort ( time, hardware, some money ) but you can achieve high yield low traceability results, I've done it, Emblemanon did it, some other guys around the net also did it.

Mine is simpler, but I waste human hours on it, creating/writing/directing people, old school with a touch of new school counter intelligence if you will. Emblemanon does in a complex, multiple level form, and requires deep knowledge on tech… if decent money and talent we could weaponize it. Memes/data can shape biological behavior, that is how you spread the thought viruses. Specific words, specific text at specific threads, regardless of shilling, will take a effect. Every time you scroll down a thread not paying attention, your brain is keeping bits of information, that is how everybody these days crack consensus. I rambled enough for now.

Seems every time a few anons post here, there is a shill swarm.

I'm too dumb to participate in this thread, but just wanted to mention something. The thing that affected me the most (I assume it can be defined as a thought virus) was the suggestion that most anti-white articles are written by jews.

It doesn't even matter whether or not someone believes it at first, it might even be more powerful if they don't. The mere suggestion is enough to notice the -berg and the -stein in the author's name the next time one reads an article like that. And then you notice it again, and again… and it's impossible to revert.

Of course, this power is only based on the fact that it's the truth. It wouldn't work otherwise. But I just find the concept funny and a bit scary - how a simple idea can have a specific effect regardless of the user's intentions upon receiving the idea.

I'll tell it to you straight, user.
Almost everyone in this thread is high on their own farts.
Figure out the truth, tell the truth, and always stick with the truth. Make your agenda the fucking truth. You'll always win.

Once you realize the amount of Jewry that is present in the media you can never look the other way. And the last names aren't always a giveaway either. Just read everything with a grain of salt.

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It's hard to shill a smart thread like this. Shilling is based on creating an emotional reaction, after all.

Not always. Disinformation is just using flat out lies and relying on the audience to not be able to either discern the lies or find an alternative source of truthful information.

Food for thought. Have we accidentally created a new emotion already?
Is there anything to learn from Gondola?

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This means Sunstein's infiltration theory only works on LEFTIST communities!


OK so this thread is confirmed legit and OP is once again vindicated.

You took down Google's head and now Facebook's fucked, who is next? Is it going to be Twitter? Please let it be Twitter, it's the most toxic platform excepting Tumblr which barely anybody uses any more.

Holy fuck, new plan:

Even better:

Emblemanon is making me push myself the last few months, I will start writing about my findings, share it, and most here will hate it, some will find it useful and use it, thus we will have another way to wage cyber war. By no means I'm at a similar level as OP.

You're not dumb user, you just didn't read enough on specific fields, it's not in just a week or two you gather knowledge. Search Tim Ferris generalist myth of expert. Be a generalist user, not an expert.

Yes, that is a thought virus, ingrained deeply enough in our brain " OS " that is natural behavior, at some level I think it rewired the brain and shaped biological behavior.

Most thought viruses need to have either a solid base on reality, or a fantasy shared deep enough in the psyche of the many. And yes, that one is true, I can't on a serious, intellectually honest level explain why jews do… jewish shit, but they do.

I came to the hypothesis of the Cartaphilus gene, need to push it futher, it is just for fun. One guys corruption spreading from genes for over 2 millennia bringing nothing but misery and pain because he was an autist centuries ago… as I said, just for fun, to make life more interesting if you will.

This user gets it, shilling derails using emotional triggers, rather easy under the current global political scenario. But the disinformation is just as important, just go on to 4/pol. Tell me that thing is NATURAL user. If you would pay me a ( decent ) beer to guess, I would say 4ch has more shills and astroturfing than reddit these days.

Holy shit, formating sucks because of new ( old custom ) pc. Sorry mates.

Haven't read your shit in a while. Keep up the work.

Study bibles are the worst. Here's how you should think for this page! Now think this on this page.

You know who I dislike the most for messing with the bible? Constantin Tischendorf. Those monks put the Sinaticus in the fireplace for a good reason. Either that or it was a hoax in the first place.

You're a total asshole then. I try to remind people that some people aren't on the endless cycle of watching movies and that's okay.

Does it have to be a new emotion? Can it be a gradient instead?

say I did want to read up on specifics to be able to even grasp the general ideas floated around in this thread.
Where would I start?

Please do those things. There's so much potential here and I worry that the about promulgating useful materials and methods while the s/n ratio is still modestly on our side.

Back to halfchan with you, then.

Start with this Emblemanon post for obvious reasons, dive into fields you have natural inclination or a good amount of interest in. There is no use going into advanced math if you fucking hate the sight of numbers. Some fields he states are really complex, so you gotta draw a game plan, fields to study, where to start, research the books, list goes on ).

And remember user, be a generalist, there is no reason to be an expert in all these fields, it would take you a lifetime of cognitive enhancing drugs and decades of copious studying to be an expert of half of these. When you know a lot in a bunch of fields, you can mesh and push stuff others won't or can't, like a bunch of autists here do.

Good luck, do the leg work, but if needed ask here or around. Always push yourself forward.

Developments have taken place that I have to adapt to. I hate getting into the weeds like this because it's easy to accidentally find yourself on the defensive, but I'm gonna get into the weeds a bit:

1.) Brennan Gilmore, State Department employee at Charlottesville, launches a civil suit against sites who cited suspicion about his involvement in the matter (archive.fo/IPixW#selection-1663.243-1663.342)

2.) Years ago, the U.S. government repealed Smith-Mundt, which banned using CIA/State Department propaganda against U.S. citizens. Long-time DNC operative Michael Hastings, who finally snapped after his wife died in Iraq, died almost immediately after making these statements: (archive.fo/Uplii#selection-1871.1-1883.355)

3.) Milo Yiannopolous prepares his PR recovery attempt via Playboy. I explored the journalists surrounding the coverage and found serious contention at the editor level. I leaked the Butterfly War to Gizmodo editors, knowing they will circulate the revelations between themselves and their ancillary Soros connections. I wanted specific investor strategists to fly into a rage, knowing they fell for the very long trap I set for them, and they did. (archive.fo/USglb) It's hard to short a nation when the reliable mechanism of dialectic materialism, which we all know as Civil Rights, no longer works predictably. They've since reverted to Mao-style student rallies in an attempt to restore footing after the complete collapse of their digital strategy.

4.) I finally bring the Butterfly War public and explain the operation to our heavily-monitored community here on Holla Forums, hoping security agencies and private intelligence companies pick up on the tactic and deploy it This thread has been going on for months on for months.

5.) The two targets I wanted (Eric Schmidt and Facebook) gets wrecked.

6.) Facebook gives poor damage control, but quickly demonstrates it more concerned that employees will leak important data. (A key goal of the Butterfly War) (archive.fo/jZnxt#selection-2279.0-2279.191) A 4chan post appears showing that the leaking has started. (archive.li/FDMzF)

7.) Mueller pivots to get a foothold on the Guccifer 2.0 narrative on the same day in anticipation of disgruntled employees leaking meta data. While Facebook has little on G2.0, those top level social media tech employees all know each other and have spent the last eight years using their unofficial back channels, administrative permissions, and bribes to punish political opponents with total impunity. (archive.fo/1cuQ3)

What good is the Eye of Sauron if those employed to routinely clean the fingerprints off of the palantirs aren't happy? ;D

As I said, I hate being on the defensive and prior investments moved into place to handle that for me, so I can get back on the offensive again! The conflicts will resolve themselves in my favor and I won't have to further micromanage it. From here on out, social media employees will be regarded as soulless government stooges, undoing decades of Jobs-style efforts to make tech workers sexy.

There is a reason Jordan Peterson and Eric Weinstein are the spearhead of evolutionary psychology and why I bring up the importance of the new emotion thought experiment here. I have provided an unexpected piece of content with two important and difficult to deduce seeds in it, so I'll have to give a bit of guidance on it. The format is admittedly off-color by our standards, but as I mentioned before, I spent most of my youth as a Marxist, so I picked up an understanding and appreciation of few of their art forms.


If Mueller wants to play the PR game, so can I. Dig into how I got into hip-hop and you will find just how long I've been planning this and why the new emotion is the key to everything. You'll find me during my insufferable phase and I know I've said things that are cringe as fuck. You'll find embarrassing material about me as well. And when that's all over with and my mortal status is restored and my ego is put in check, you will see the moment the new emotion thought experiment was born and who I managed to get involved in it.

Cambridge Analytica wasn't the first to propose a way to do what they do.

Now that I'm no longer on the defensive, I promise I will soon address the questions and insights that have been piling up here.

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I hear you brother

Everything you're say is amazing but i'm worried that anons here don't have the muscle or the history to help as much as needed, it's not like the old days. There's a lot of newblood that tend to miss details. In any case I'll do what I can and all I can say is stay safe.

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Okay OP, love the thread, am giddy to see your work in action, buuuuttt.
The "Uranium Barrier" is not a good answer to the Fermi Paradox. Taking our own world as an example or only example to be factual even with an all out nuclear war there are projected to be several tens of millions of humans still alive after the last ICBM slams home. More than enough of a breeding population, even factoring in the nuclear winter, genetic damage due to radiation, the sudden loss of the industrial capabilities, for our species to recover from.
I'll shut up now, just had to chime in on that.

You are a very stupid man for coming public with this, unless you are certain your cover was already blown. I can see your ego clearly outweighed your intelligence here. I suppose you have followed most whistleblower steps correctly, except for the last one which is location.

You can keep shaking the tree, but you won't harvest any more ripe fruit. You did the equivalent of show up to a Mafia meet up with a klaxon and now you expect simply your honking will shoo them away instead of cause them a minor headache. They will not budge. All of the PR issues for Goolag and FUCKFUCKFUCKMYDATAbook are fake news items designed to be forgotten within days for the average drone. The normies' concerns will be addressed by facebook in a series of conciliatory lectures (plus with authority figures to cement the credibility) and all except infosec specialists, competitors and the deep browsers will move on from the topic.

Now that you exposed yourself guess what your ISP and local DNC/Financial Beltway Investors is doing to you? You basically need to pull a Terry Davis and GTFO with a mobile unregistered pirate box with SSH/tunneling and all the bells and whistles and run for your life if you aren't done. If you are done with your work, then here's your (you) so you never get future idiotic narcissistic ideas about your invincibility and compromise your now laughable OPSEC ever again!

Perhaps it would have better suited you to have studied human behavior historically during political crises (hint: mass arrests/mob violence/paperwork and property destruction), as you seem to be missing something by thinking that this project of yours deserves public attention (mild aspergers detected) and that it benefits from exposure. I don't think you handicapped your own idea by revealing it's your idea in an emo blog, but I definitely think you should start planning your exit strategies and scenarios.

That being said, I like your idea and execution, plus you seem to have a solid grasp on your field which is always admirable. If even half of your story is true then bravo chap.


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I"ll admit this is a shot in the dark and sounds a little tinfoil but if anyone has dug deep enough into facebook it would be you. I posted this in 2 other threads but this is probably the best place to ask.
Friend told me this yesterday:

There's nothing online about this new Project Bluebird, and I mean literally not one mention, but the data center near forest city is out in the open. Have you encountered anything about Project Bluebird, and could it be connected to anything else?

Talking out of my ass here, but could nuclear war + overdepletion of resources lead to a situation where a new society would inevitably be impossible to make due to all the easy-to-reach stuff not being available anymore?

Yeah man , of course
Sysytems that reach that proverbial tipping point won't recover. When the system is removed there isn't anything to rebuild it. Other systems will come and go but the original will never exist
Be more worried about the chems at dugway and the other labs

what about the user who posted that silver turd pic? what's his deal?

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>hoping for (((them))) to not fuck with you, and everyone else
That's like hoping for a home invader to not shank you while you're asleep in your living room sofa. If it's a duck it's a fucking duck not a damn moose, what you've seen back there is definitely for realsies, (((they))) simply will not allow anyone to know (and do) anything about what they're gonna do with that place once it's finished constructing

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Haman best waifu.

Hopefully she shows up on an SRW V sequel

You're overestimating and underestimating the threat of assassination or harassment. It's real but they don't bust out wetworks for petty cyber pesks. Even hillary tier criminal orgs don't assassinate people without high level authorization to do so. And high level authorization will only be given against enemies that they can comprehend. OP is able to play because he's playing at least two levels of meta higher up than his enemy command.

Furthermore any serious opponents who wanted to dox OP would be able to do so with minimal effort. OP has a greater degree of safety by being non-anonymous than being "anonymous" because his death risks triggering a martyr reaction and may accelerate his plans (which are public anyway.) He's playing a dangerous game but he's playing it the best he can.

The shills finally realized this is some sort of threat, albeit a threat their paymasters don't full comprehend so they're trying clumsily to shut it down.

I agree completely, I was just quoting what he said in his exact words. This happened a little while ago but he was just reminded of it due to whats happening now. From what I can tell from articles and from maps the facility is up and running. If its anything like the 1952 Project Bluebird then they are trying to use some sort of psyop tactics to prevent data leaks. The original Bluebird is the glowiest of the glow in the dark projects


This here, folks, is a shill.

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bamp for not being a shill. I'm right about what I said. Has there been any policy change due to this 'war'? Have advertisers lost trust? So far minor headache, if we work together though we can grow it into a splitting migraine.


"Facebook has lost $70 billion in 10 days — and now advertisers are pulling out"


More than an annoyance. More like a death blow. Also this


Tech workers are their weakness.



go do your part anons. take some of zucks funny money for yourself

Gawker knows.

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Shit, I hate this machine. Damn fingres.

Also you could buy someone's messenger logs on the darknet for a while. I didn't believe it at first until I honeypotted some drug dealers…I mean legitimate dispensary owners.