Question about Hitler and National Socialism

As I understand it, National Socialism as an ideology is (Im gonna simplify here) based around catering to the Volk of a nation (which I guess is the primary ethnicity of the nation), and building up a strong Reich for this Volk (an ethnostate presumably). With this in mind, did Hitler's ideas only encompass Germany? Did he believe the "Untermensch" like Slavs and Blacks deserve their own Reich as well? If he did then why did he try to create a Lebensraum around eliminating Slavs? Really confused on how this ideology can work for most people.


I'm not really aware of this branch of fascism, or if you guys consider NS fascist at all?

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therightstuff.biz/2015/09/02/race-and-iq-genes-that-predict-racial-intelligence-differences/
archive.org/details/MeinKampf_154
archive.org/details/HitlerTableTalk
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Originally National Socialism was only designed for Germany, you can find quotes about it being "not for export" etc. Quotes about how there can only be one Reich, the German Reich.. and how theres only one Fuhrer, the German Fuhrer. How Quisling for example was not to use the term Fuyrer I believe it was, because it was too close to Fuhrer. Despite this, we obviously live in different times and it would not be impossible to repurpose the ideals and general way of life that National Socialism is. Thats what it is, more than an ideology, or a political system, its an entire way of life.
Probably a better question for QTDDTOT tbh. National Socialism is considered fascist by many, but Goebbels for example did not consider it to be.

First, lurk two more years. Second, autocorrect any mention of "slavs" to "communists", because that's what Hitler meant. Third, read a book.

kk, but do you consider it to be fascist?

1. not an answer
2. to my knowledge, he found them racially inferior as well
3. recommendations? which book?

I fixed your small typo, friend.

My personal opinion is largely irrelevant, and I dont consider fascism to be a bad thing. It has fascist elements, but I wouldnt call it fascism.

No one deserves shit. Might makes right.
I certianly dont.

so what are Holla Forumss ideals? do they consider blacks or shitskins capable of building societies in their native homelands without so-called Jewish Influence? Are they white supremacists or white nationalists? I wanna know more but lurking here just seems like a lot of shitposting from my conservative dad.

nationalvanguard.org/2015/06/dr-william-pierce-on-the-difference-between-national-socialism-and-fascism/

I don't mind the thread premise, but it is still most aptly

Now youre starting to look like youre writing a story. Maybe I should respond so you dont get some larper whos here to undermine us instead. Suggesting we are conservatives is pretty hilarious too btw, most people would just report your thread and move on.

Niggers have demonstrated themselves thoroughly incapable of running anything except a tribal warfare factory. Shitskins did plenty fine before Religion of Cuck™, and they produced some complex mathematical concepts etc. White supremacism can be interpreted in multiple ways, one would be that whites should control the entire planet and run everyone elses countries for them. Thats not what were about, nor is it what Naitonal Socialism is about. Its not an expansionist doctrine, it doesnt say we should control other peoples. It says leave us alone, were the best and we are best when we work with ourselves instead of other cultures. It says stop trying to stick your grubby fingers in our pie, and stop polluting our race and destroying our culture. Its a positive force for good, not an empty evil "hate" ideology.
It does say niggers should be colonized, and thats a point you wont hear many people bring up. The goal after the reunification of the German people was to attain colonies outside Europe, as all the others were pursuing. England, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium etc, all had colonies. These niggers benefited from white leadership, Rhodesia and South Africa were by far the best places to live in Africa. Rhodesia particularly was extremely sparsely populated by blacks, and the people who live there today owe their entire existence to the prosperity brought by whites.
I personally do not believe blacks can achieve anything on their own, they didnt even use the wheel until whites showed up except in small parts of North Africa and Somalia. Their biggest accomplishment is when the Bantus cut a swath of ethnic and tribal cleansing across about 75% of the continent, and made pretty much everyone part Bantu. Great job niggers.
Muslims are traditionally our allies against kikes, in their own countries however. The problem we have with them is that they are raping our women, and not their own, in the desert. You want to beat women who have been raped with lengths of steel cable, go ahead and do it, in your own society - not ours.
The other way white supremacy can be interpreted, I got a bit off track, is that whites are the superior race. We DO believe that, we are superior. Asians have a higher average IQ than whites, and are comparable intellectually.. but we have more above 135, and 145. Super geniuses. We also have more at the bottom, who fail to be anything. Maybe that could be blamed on affirmative action, but the point Im getting at really is that we have demonstrated our superiority through our works, not just our intellect. Look at Asia, a mass of ants living in huts similar to fucking shitskins. They arent industrious, they arent individualistic, they just grow rice and eat. Sustenance farming, reminiscent of the niggers in Zimbabwe if you ask me. They drag dogs behind cars, eat fetuses etc. They are a brutal, cold, careless people… and if for our empathy alone, we could be called superior.

really interesting, I read it and I think it confirms a lot of what other fascists have told me; that fascism is different from community to community, people to people because its based around their identity as an individual people group. because of this, they cannot all implement the same type of fascism as mussolini, or even have similar economic or political systems.


Either way, the author I found still stated that most of NS and Fascism are very similar because of their authoritarian approach to the world. There is a slight differencr in basically just Race and the JQ, but do you think this is enough for NS to be disqualified as a train of fascist thought?

sry, i was just looking for an overview of what you all can agree on for sure. or an in depth account sich as your, ty

Kill all the kikes.

Thanks.

we are white nationalists who want to assure the 14 words remain strong and true, to preserve a decent home with morals and character as a centerpoint. We want to expunge the scourge, that is, whether you like it or not, almost entirely jewish. We don't want to get involved in foreign conflicts, war for oil and Israel, we just want to be left the fuck alone and be allowed to exist, thrive, and prosper without miscegenation and degeneracy running rampant. The media portrays us as something wicked, but in reality we are fundamentally just out to fight for our existence, we cherish the culture which has been borne of white nations, we aspire to be great from our own efforts, we aspire to a world free from the binding shackles of (whether you like it or not) jewish usury and fiat currency, monetary policy designed to enriched the few, the jew and necessitates the exploitative nature of capitalism because in order to sustain the system under the pressured weight fraught upon us by usurous federal reserve based fiat currency we must continually find and exploit new resources, a system which cannot be indefinitely maintained, and furthermore leads to wars in the name of these things and it is FUCKED UP that men and women have to die because some fucking schlomo with no moral code or compass wants to create a greater Israel on the backs of the rest of the world.

We are sharp with humor, hardened by years of chan culture and we are not ashamed of our views because we have truth and actual factual evidence on our side supporting our stances rather than "muh feels."

National Socialism is not fascist.

Believe me, it is.

OP here, just a few questions concerning the other races bit. I come here in good faith (inb4 I get called a kike and people shit on me/ignore me)
do you guys deny the existence of sub-saharan african civilizations and empires pre-colonialism? maybe the reasons a lot of the tribal black people couldnt invent anything was because they didnt have access to agriculture and farm animals the way europeans had, and as a result couldnt innovate/didnt need too.
maybe they were the best places because they were permanent colonies, and not just areas to sap resources and leave? correct me if im being ahistorical.

It is the answer you will most commonly get because this board doesnt actually exist for your personal benefit and we dont enjoy ignorant idiots holding us back from the things we are seriously concerned about, like our survival.

You could read Mein Kampf, you nigger. Also the "inferior race" concept is largely propaganda and barely used by NS officials, even then with different purposes…

That's so silly though, you're taking one metric that can be measured in an ideology and saying that it is the only thing that matters when differentiating ideologies. Stalinism, fascism, monarchical feudalism, and Roman republicanism could be considered authoritarian and they're all incredibly different. Hell, even supposed anti-authoritarian regimes are authoritarian. Go to Germany or Canada and try to express some national pride. If you express too much you'll quickly find out how anti-authoritarian these 'progressive' places really are.

Nigger quiz.
Rhodesia was about gold, they only gained independence after the British government pretty much tried to force them into giving power to niggers.

concerning what, the JQ, race realism

and didnt hitler also privatise everything in Nazi Germany, and was funded by bog German corporations/Jewish banks?

Fascistic methods and ideas are tools. NSDAP were very fascistic but that doesnt mean they were fascist. It all depends on the way you view the tool. Are they means to an end or the end itself. Fascism in Italy and in Spain saw fascistic methods and ideas as an end (Italy drifted towards more NS because of Hitler as time went on) while NS saw them as a mean.

is Mein Kampf the only book about NS?

it was just one example, the guy in the article gives an entire paragraph to shoe all the similarities, and the only difference was the role of state/race, in other words the economies and political setup were identical.

Its the only book you have to read before youre allowed to post here without getting banned. Read White Power and This Time The World by George Lincoln Rockwell, Fame of a Dead Mans Deeds by Robert S Griffin on William Luther Pierce too for a deeper understanding of us beyond just National Socialism.

also, the reason you get the response "lurk 2 years" is because you need to understand and respect what this place is and represents to its very eclectic userbase - you need time to observe and see what this board really represents, take all of it with a grain of salt and be prepared to have some really hard truth thrown at you. We don't mince words, we don't "play nice in the sandbox" - we tell one another to die frequently, if you act in a way that pisses someone else off you get ridiculed, but if you contribute and add value you become a cog in a greater entity.

You are not you while you are here, you are Anonymous (however true or untrue that is) and you should act it, you are simply a nameless faceless element of some unit that espouses a very sharp and particular set of views.

Now fucking lurk, for your own good, just take some time and don't post stupid shit because

< YOU KILLED A POTENTIALLY USEFUL AND VALUABLE THREAD TO POST THIS

Remember that. Your actions have consequences, you need to understand the role and responsibility inherent in the continued success of this, one of the very last bastions of truly free speech. You are either the antibody, or you are the fucking cancer. If you are the cancer, you will be fucking burned.

Thus founding state companies like the Volkswagen? How niggerish are you? He didn't obviously have a fully state-planned economy, but there was massive interventions, not the other way around and he did not "privatize everything".


And instantly turned on them when he got power - look what happened to Hjalmar Schaat - the Reich's minister of Economy (a kike US plant/agent), he was put in to appease them, but gradually isolated and made a token minister (he did escape execution though), replaced in fact by NSDAP officials like Gorin…

Fascism is civic nationalism.

Oh and of course, do yourself a favor and listen to at least some of the 300+ WLP broadcasts.

hooktube.com/watch?v=CAj7BGuNnUI

This file pretty much always exists here, its one of Pierces best (so I cant embed it)

No, you absolute nigger. There are thousands of it, hundreds of publications all across the Third Reich and so on, besides influenced works all across the world. Reich Minister had their own books. You can't known much about NS without reading Mein Kampf/listening to the speeches though.

Is this nigger even worth sharing a reading list???

You are jewish, Please kill your entire lineage.

Hes been told about WP, TTTW, and FOADMD. That should be enough for now. If he reads those and is turned off, just call em a race traitor and move on.

What the actual fuck?

Yes. Not that I deny the existence of such creatures having tribal associations, but I don't consider that 'civilization' in a meaningful sense in context.

And maybe the reasons a lot of the tribal niggers couldn't invent anything was because they were niggers, who had evolved in a selective environ wherein the genetic factors which lead to traits espoused by other groups - say, Europeans - that lead to their capacity for invention and advanced civilization were simply not selected for, or not selected for as heavily, and thus those factors did not become wide-spread.
As you say, they didn't need to - so they didn't.

I keep hearing that the party received funding from capitalists and bankers in its early stages, Ive never seen any evidence when linked, not that it would change anything. Im pretty sure its just more "Hitler was Jewish!" "Hitler was a Rothschild!" garbage, debunked in 30 seconds kinda thing.

1. Mali, Songhai, Axum
2. Joseph Omoregbe, pretty modern guy
3. Ethiopia's modernized parts aren't too bad, and Gabon is quite civilized imo.
4. because they make up the majority of the poor people in communities with lots of wealth inequality, which is the primary agitator of crime.
5. IQ isnt the be all end all of intelligence.
6. can i get the full statistic before answering pls? like how many black on black rape, and white on white rape

debunk it then, not just question it

Try cuckchan, and lurk 2 years.

fair enough
exactly, they never needed to. does that mean that these people dont have genes for these things?

For anyone still responding. This fucker is a retarded ass jewish shill. Pray it kills itself by rubbing it's hands so fast it combusts.

All sorts of people threw money at NSDAP, because it was on the rise and stood to cause instability. The rothschilds and their ilk have and will always fund both sides of any conflict that they can, both to profit off of the chaos, and to buy off a few men in high positions to ensure their power and control is never truly threatened. Make the most ruthless faction you can think of, take the hardest stance you can come up with, but the second you gain any real ground you'll eventually see a rich jew will come along with a blank check, what you do with that is what matters.


Natsoc and fascism use similar methods to achieve different things. Natsocs want to unite their people and establish a nationstate which goes on to champion their people's interests above all. Fascism is an imperial ideology usually using an ideology such as religion to connect otherwise disparate peoples to some common goal. They're quite different for that reason, despite similarities in policy outside of race.

hooktube.com/watch?v=HhCunB2859I
hooktube.com/watch?v=FQePtf2te8o

It's obvious OP is retarded but think of all the lurkers.

Im aware, Ive still seen no evidence and I dont just believe kike smears like that without evidence. Let them prove it beyond the extent they have "proven" the holohoax if its actually a fact according to them. Until then, it didnt happen.
Then when they do prove it, as you pointed out, its still irrelevant and indicative of nothing except kikes desire to control all opposition.

Also notice he makes the baseless claim, and then demands we debunk it lol

he funded one state company doesnt change the fact that most of the companies that were under the german government's juristiction were then sold into private hands with no involvement from the state.
exactly why he sold them state owned companies and assets.

Or you know, niggers have average IQs of 60 in some places, which is lower than even some monkeys. Several of them were considered too worthless to be even slaves. And they bring their niggerish behaviour everywhere they go.

Yes, they're less civilized, and that is not a bad thing (civilization = auto-domestication), but their nature is just incompatible with whites and they should keep to their own lands.

Also Ethiopia speaks a Semitic language and the country was founded by middle-easterners who mixed with the local population. IQ isn't the only measurement of intelligence, but if you look at it, there isn't much to find in niggers anyway. These nigger civilizations were also pretty laughable "oh we built a huge slave-trading empire in 1300, many years after everyone else and relying heavily on arab influences, while Europeans were sailing to new continentes, and these empires vanished in a few years, before the europeans even go to there. Not even going to comment of that "philosopher"…

someone please show this faggot black crime redpills

It's as you say.


Any replies we make in this thread shouldn't be for him, but rather more well behaved lurkers who might be reading.

Oh wow. A smart person. True, an argument is not for the sake of debate, but for the witnesses.

Not like we have many threads where we bash stupid normalfag jewish propaganda on the regular so…

'they didn't have to - so they havn't' would be a better choice of words.
Europeans didn't have to develop all their high culture and technology but they did.

which baseless claim have i made?

nazis make me kek lamo

To be noted also is the absolute lack of exploration for niggers to find anything they lacked. They couldn't even figure out "ooga booga shiny rock get me munnie from y-t." White Europeans just walked in and took it all, making niggers slaves to mine the rocks. Even Asian migrants in the Americas learned to make valuable objects from gems and bronze, despite the fact they never developed past sticks and stones warfare.

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This is why you have to lurk and we owe you fuck all. Never cast your pearls unto swine, and thats why you got 3 books instead of 10, and thats why I reported you when you demonstrated that you are hostile to white survival, and the enemy of the white race. I cant wait to see you across a field.

1. Government oversight.
2. There were other thing nationalized.
3. We are not commies that think privatizing is a bad thing.

You know, he took the country away from international finance and speculation, and jewish-controlled "create money out of thin air" rothschild central bank that was imposed upon Germany after 1918. He didn't keep state ownership of companies, because that is not a good economic model anyway, but intervened heavily upon them and made strong economic measures - hell, he even gave massive grants to newly married families. The Reich was entirely focused on the welfare of the Volk, not on some "economic system".

That is how he turned upon them, you know, besides imprisoning disloyal people and completely limiting jewish participation in economic affairs…

Nope.

you gave me one, i see only mein kampf. Not being able to defend your position is scary, all you need to do is explain. National Socialists never seem give me a good base for researching their ideology, and the only books I get are non-fiction, masturbation fantasies instead of legitimate theory. You guys arent stupid, but for some reason having a working plan of what your ideology should be setup as doesnt exist.


inb4 i get called a kike despite probably being whiter than everyone here.

What do you think the "I" in "Intelligence quotient" stands for? Nigger.
Poverty isn't a factor in rape, jaywalking, and skipping out on alimony payments, nigger.

Hmmm. Really makes you think. Still reported your non-white ass. The holocaust has never happened, but it should have happened and it WILL happen as we can't ensure our survival untill every last trace of the demonic jewish culture has been destroyed.

I'll give you some recommendations if you tell which paper you're writing for moishe.

and you know, annexing nations to keep an unsustainable economic system afloat.
but how are you going to sustain these things without a plan? honestly your ideology seems really feelings-oriented so far. its not "heres how our volk will be great" its "our volk will be great with hard work and stuff!"

Because it's a very good place to start, plus another user gave you White Power and This Time The World by George Lincoln Rockwell, Fame of a Dead Mans Deeds by Robert S Griffin
How would you know when you havn't even read MK.
What does that even mean?

Or, you known, you could lurk for 2 years before posting. Like here:

Guys, we need more redpill threads, last thread, and several good ones, got slided - also post redpills here before it gets deleted

It's marxist jargon, they usually use it to refer to economic policy.

you gave me one, i see only "The Holocaust". Not being able to defend your position is scary, all you need to do is explain. Zionist Marxists never seem give me a good base for researching their ideology, and the only books I get are non-fiction, masturbation fantasies instead of legitimate theory. You guys arent stupid, but for some reason having a working plan of what your ideology should be setup as doesnt exist.

all the quotes and titles about hitler and similar books never outline how the country will be run, just how we need to kill jews and how jews suck. some guy earlier in the thread was talking about this.
a plan on how to support germany, because their methods just couldnt work without constant expansion.

Citation, needed.

Why are there Americans who worship Hitler when they have no connection to him when they have the founders?

how would you know
So you're taking selective people on their word now when it comes to pretending like you know about the content of books you haven't read?

Top kek, so much for

No, no, no. I didn't say "doesn't count", I said "doesn't exist".
Get it right.

Okay.
Yes, that's exactly what it means - they do not possess a genotype which generates a phenotype exemplary of these traits.

You should study some genetic research and evolutionary theory.
By definition, under evolutionary theory, there is no such thing as equality. Period.
You understand the concept of natural selection? Environmental factors dictating genetic trends dependent upon long-term survivability/'fitness'?

Well, the Africans existed in a selective environ wherein there were not selective pressures to reward phenotypic espousal of genotypically-derived traits. That is to say: Their environment didn't require them to develope along the lines that Europeans were forced to develope along.
The result is that they do not exemplify the same proportional representation of those traits within their populations.

Think of it this way… Imagine you put two finches, same baseline animal, genotypically and phenotypically, on two different islands.
One island 1, the primary food source the birds can access is cactus flowers and the nectar they produce - a selective pressure favoring a long, skinny beak.
Also, on island 1, there are no primary predators - they simply don't exist.
One island 2, the primary food source is hard-cased nuts - a selective pressure favoring a strong, stout beak.
Also, on island 2, there are rats, which serve as the primary predators - and effective predators at that!

Now, leave them alone for a thousand years.

What do you think the effects will be on those two populations?
Do you think they'll be the same, physiologically and/or behaviorally? Of course not - even over such a short period of time (and yes, 1,000 years is a short period of time in the context we're discussing) you will undoubtedly see SIGNIFICANT shift from the baseline geno/phenotypes due to selective pressures. In our example, you're liable to see physiological/behavioral changes in response to the variation in primary food source, as well as the variation in predation.

That's how evolution works - the environment creates selective pressures, creates demands of a sort, and those organisms which, due to their genetically-derivaed physiological/behavioral traits (new traits emergent from random mutation and the like - again, learn about genetics), are better adapted to that environment, are better able to meet those demands are, by the numbers, more likely to survive, to reproduce, to pass along those traits.

Africans' environment didn't place the same selective demands upon their populations as were placed upon Europeans, and, over an extended period of time (upwards of 30,000 years), the two groups, assuming shared origin of some sort (pre-modern humans, see the recent discoveries in Greece), diverged significantly, in both phsyiology and, as a result, behavior.

So, no, they don't have 'the genes' for these things, because the phenotypic traits (derivative from genetic traits) in question were not selected for, or the selective pressure was not as great, resulting in a highly divergent populations as goes things like, for example, aggression and intelligent.

Yeah, I guess the rebuilding of Germany and the massive achievements of the Reich (inventing icbm balistic missiles that brought us to the moon, stealth jets, assault rifles, helicopter prototypes and so on) and the massive improvements to the living and spiritual conditions of the people, building of roads, remilitarization, economic miracle and so on during the 6 years of peace Hitler had were just a "buble about to break"…

Maybe, maybe, it was more than just an "economic system" (like the banker-controlled western capitalism) and you really need to redpill yourself on fiat currency, central banks and intrest-exploitation by the (((elites)))…

This guy is legitimately retarded, I intentionally didnt suggest the fiction and gave 3 non-fiction works.

or maybe it was a war economy that couldnt be sustained during times of peace, which is why it only lasted 6 years.

Because the Founders were kind of cuckolds tbh m8, and they blew it rather spectacularly by not including racial concerns in the primary founding documents.

The Founders were more like Fascists, really, in that they too were trying to ape the Romans.
Thing is, the Romans' situation blew itself up and shat itself dead, largely of their own doing, so one has to wonder why they would think following along their path directly was wise or desirable.

In any case, I don't 'worship' Hitler - I respect him, greatly, because of what he was able to do and what he promoted; and while I likewise respect the Founders of the US to some degree, what they were able to do and what they promoted were not as in-line with a modern reckoning, and they were not as-explicit as Hitler was.
If they were, we likely wouldn't be in this mess at this point.

i was referencing to a copypasta of britpol's . . . "reading list" we can call it. it was 20% nonfiction and everything else was just masturbation fantasy.

The founding fathers were freemasons, and what they stood for is not what we stand for. Their ideas dont work, in our society, anymore.

NatSoc is not about economics. What are you even talking about? See this is the reason we think capitalism and communism is two side of the same shekel. You talk and argue for the exact same thing while we are way above all that.

This is why you're supposed to lurk for 2 years, you enormous twat.

Well, firstly, it does - its called Mein Kampf and the National Socialist regime.

Second, there's tons of books on the subject m8, you've just not been here long enough, obviously and by your own admission, to have a grasp thereupon.

You aren't stupid, but you are incredibly disingenuous or else maybe you are kinda stupid.

if they are genes, do you know the specific gene that causes the ability to innovate or be a genius? can it be pointed out?

My only teacher is the enemy. He tells me his weakness.


For anyone not jewish, I recommend "Europa The Last Battle." Look it up, many documentaries all rolled up in one. Well sourced. Also will make your blood boil at what the kikes did in WW2 and in Russia before hand.

Also, have kikes never looked at an ethnic make up of the U.S? Most of the Whites in the U.S. are of German decent.

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Imagine being that retarded. You could have avoided that by lurking and reading it properly, not like a gigantic faggot. A state isn't built from scrap, and leaders can't know how to do everything, only the directions and the founding values…


Said who? Your jewish textbook. It seems to me it pretty much worked in the 6 years of peace they had. Besides, they had to prepare for war, because they were independent from world-finance, which resented them and controlled the entire of the world (World War 2 was fought by Germany against the whole rest of the world - the Soviet army alone was 3.5 times bigger than the German, and the US and British armies were all also bigger…)

To varying degrees, yes.
Of course, its not necessarily just 'genes'. You've further demonstrated you have no real grasp on this subject matter.

Its genes, but also gene clusters, and myriad other factors which play into the vast complexity of genetic function.

What's rather funny is, you wouldn't for a moment question the heritability of other traits, but when it comes to cognition and other such factors, suddenly you recoil.

> therightstuff.biz/2015/09/02/race-and-iq-genes-that-predict-racial-intelligence-differences/

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very NatSoc

These differences were statistically significant and were replicated across all three databases.
> More extraordinary was the finding that all 14 alleles differed between Blacks and Whites in a way that would predict that Blacks would be less intelligent.

Therefore the probability of the first 14 alleles examined all favoring Whites would be a mere 1 in 16,284.


This is but one exemplification of such research findings.


Actually, it is.
The Communists were some of the greatest enemies of the NatSoc ideal.
If you want to know and understand an ideology, it helps to know and understand what they opposed as well.

Nice cherry picking though.
Your mask is starting to slip.

National Socialism is the counter to communism, we spend a large amount of effort attacking communists, and if we ever got into power, you can be damn sure anyone who was communists… would be in for a bad time. Understanding communism is the first step to stopping communism.

Read it and you will find out. I think volume 2 is more for you. If you want even more policy material read something like Feder. But that was for Germany in the 20-40. Things change, but what doesnt change are the eternal laws of natue and that's why NatSoc is a philosophy based on these. "Theory" is not relevant, what a said time need depends on the circumstances, zeitgeist and leaders.
If you want stuff on foreign policy read his second book.

Hes a kike, Im pretty sure. If not hes a race traitor, and at this point it may just be a woman too given how snarky the posting is. At least a soyboy faggot.

You do realize that Germany had limited resources (thousands died of starvation in World War I, because of the British Blockade - Germany was not food self-suficiente), it lacked material resources, especially oil, to build and supply it's army and the country was entirelly levelled after World War I - they were opposed by the entirety of the world, controlled by big corporations and (((international finance))) that were eager to invade their country to control it again.

So, maybe, that is why they planned expansion - because they had to in order to survive. You're the one spreading falsehoods that they didn't have "economic guidelines" and were "about to collapse", when they clearly stated their plans and prospered during NS rule. But you keeping asking people on an imageboard to give a "instruction manual" on how to run an economy, like the kike you are, saying it's not enoug to point the guidelines…

Where are the mods to ban this…

youre gonna need to write clearer, because im trying to get to everyone and the thread is kinda packed
ok, whatever they are. is there proof to your claim that the africans have these inferior genes, or is it just based on observing them?
i wouldnt. i would question the extent that intelligence would be affected. no two peoplr are ever exactly alike nor have identical experiences in any situation so therefore one would have a slightly different outcomr in all aspects.
again, IQ tests are shown to not measure all of human cognitive ability. just because it says "intelligence" dorsnt mean its completely accurate. just like if a jew calls himself white, it doesnt make him white righr?

Germany entered total war economy in 1943. You can find it in Hitlers war if you want a source.

very nice, thank you! exactly what i was looking for. the mein kampf im aware of is only the first volume, wasnt aware there were two.

There's your problem.

because the way they set up their war economy nessecitated this. glad you agree with me. he took loans from people he never intended to pay back, because the loans he took were people he was just going to kill.

that doesnt mean that they werent preparing for such a thing beforehand.

What's with all these cuckchan OPs with unrelated pics today? Is this some kind of four-years-too-late kind of exodus now that hiro has been exposed for injecting the peanut gallery with malware?
Anyway, go fuck a rake and die, OP.

Newfagsshills need to suckstart a shotgun

You are mocking me for something I don't care about. You think you are throwing boulders at me while in reality you are throwing tiny stones.

except if you truly wanted to understand communism or bolshevism, you'd read Lenin or Stalin. Even Marx rejected the Manifesto as being outdatednear the end of his life, so reading it is just an image thing to make you look educated about the other side.

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You better get ready, because it wont be flaming tires around OUR necks this time around.

Explain what you mean.

A combination of the two.

You did. You are.
Do the 'experiences' a person have dictate the degree of melanin exposure? Their predisposition to Tay Sachs? Their predisposition to aggression or alcoholiism?
No, not really.

You're basically arguing that "Well, if a giraffe was in a place with taller trees, it might grow a longer neck!", and that's… No. Over time, via selective pressure, the giraffe population in a given area with higher trees might demonstrate longer necks - but an individual giraffe's experiences have no effect whatsoever on the length of its neck from a genetic-to-phsyiologic perspective.
Intelligence is highly heritable, pretty much all research has demonstrated as much.

No, not at all comparable really.
A Jew calling himself White is something he can get away with because of the perception that 'White' is merely an issue of skin-tone, of the degree of melanin produced in the dermis of an organism, when in reality is the much-more-complex issue of genetic origin.

The fact is that basically all available research suggests cognitive capacity is a highly-heritable factor. The motive to move away from this reality is entirely political - because it makes people feel bad. That's the whole motivation behind promotion of equality, which, by your admission, is simply an impossibility, because no two people ARE equals.
The idea that you can or should impose some form of societal equity, upon beings who are, by definition, unequal, is really the biggest harm that one can impose upon a society.

And of a sense, that's a core foundational element of National Socialism - we are NOT equals, and the further one goes outside their clade, the more profound these inequalities become, thus creating conflict and hazard when a society attempts to mix a whole bunch of different and highly-divergent clades together under the auspice of their societally-imposed equality.

Now, as to superiority…

I would lean towards at least 3: The Men of the North (Euro), The Men of the East (Asian), and The Men of the South (Negro).

I would further suggest designation of The Men of the West, who were separated from their ancestors' lands and became something else entirely.

These were an admixture, of North and East, re-introduction of Northern bloodlines (from Westerly tribes of the North {keep up}) much later generating a sort of duality in their Southern modern populations (due to those from largely South-Westerly tribes of the North); their Northern modern populations, having been largely militarily conquered (by those from North-Westerly tribes of the North {you're keeping up, yes?}) during the aforementioned re-introduction, are extant in comparatively small numbers (~13-14 million in North America).

Three Houses of Man (Euro, Negro, Asian), with a fallen House (American; admixture of Euro/Asian) now largely conquered - whether through blood or iron - by the descendants of its ancestors' cousins (North-/South-Western Europeans)… Other Houses existed once, the Heidel, Neanderthal and the Denisovan, but they too were conquered through blood and/or iron (or, rather more likely, stone).

Humanity is not static, and never has been - gene flow is a fluid-dynamic, moving between reservoirs of variable stability, with variable genes (and associated physiology/psychology/behavior/culture/society) dominating the population (as best suits the selective factors acting upon them at that time).

Are The Men of the South and their derivatives - also known colloquially as "niggers" - human?
Aye.

A Great Dane and a miniature Dachshund are both dogs - but if you were wise, you wouldn't confuse the two as equivalents due to such terminology.
They are not.

fascinating. when confronted with the idealism and memery of his ideology, the nazi LARPs.

What did Stalin write?

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Or you known, maybe Germany was a country with no resources, that knew it was going to face a war with half of the world, with much bigger armies and unlimited resources and slave labor. To say he "failed" and was unsunstainable economically is to ignore the fact that this tiny nation almost subdued the entire kike-controlled world, facing much adverse odds. They only went so far because of his economic plans and had they achieved total victory, "endsieg" you wouldn't be talking about this. So maybe it was a solid plan…


Here are you spreading falsehoods out of your ass again, little yid. I will try to be short here - the main economic guidelines were to end usury-exploitation by the jewish-controlled central banks. Once they did this (in his first year), they were able to turn the labor of the people into actual material gains and productivity, not profits to speculators because of the way central banking was set up. This empowered the people. The state offered mass employment by building roads (autobahns), infrastructure, remilitarization, reindustrialization, reforestation and massive volkisch agricultural projects, even granting money to young families to supply themselves and have kids that made the nation a powerhouse and gave them actual growh that permitted their war efforts in the first place.

my last reply to your kike ass here

So if you wanted to understand National Socialism, you should read, who? Someone from the 1980's perhaps?

Actually, it gives you an impression as the origin of these thought processes, and the mindset of those who promoted them.

You've really exposed that you're here for no purpose but disingenuous nonsense, and I would further suggest you've also demonstrated enough to suggest that everything in your OP is basically nonsense, because you are, in fact, a Holla Forums stooge or the like, come to shill and whine while espousing no substance beyond reddit-tier snark and lazy shitposting.

The only one is larping is you, if you think civil war isnt on the horizon. That was a leftist who made that suggestion about France.

When youre done NOT reading all the books that have been suggested to you, and NOT reading anything else in general because youre a vapid airheaded communist who doesnt need to know facts, nor places any belief in the concept of objective truth, be sure to go and read about Lebanon, Yugoslavia, the IRA/Ireland, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, and South Africa. Until then, youre larping, and Im a historian.

Larping for political changes that cant be attained? The alt-right. Fighting for white survival regardless of what non-whites think about that and recognizing voting will never stop white genocide - welcome to our world, race war soon, your skin is your uniform and traitors before enemies.

It's really hard to talk with you when you dont even know the basics, hence read MK and lurk for 2 years.
What do you even want to know? Do you want to know about NatSoc or NSDAP. Because it sounds like you want to know things about NSDAP while you claim to want to know things about NatSoc.

it means i need to go in a bit and i dont have time to read huge walls of text like you have.
ok, but how much do they vary in society? overall a few IQ points arent gonna make someone incompatible, especially considering there are successful black people and failing white people.
and heretibility doesnt mean what you think it means in genetics.
true, but i dont think that an ethnostate is the way to do it. what if a black man who works really hard and is smarter than a white man wants a position at a job? would he be held back because the white is supposed to be superior? tap me out if im strawmanning here, because to be honest ive been skimming this thread so i might be.

Might makes right and youre in the way of our survival. This is really simple, were going to get rid of you, and then we wont have problems. You dont need to agree with us, and not agreeing with us merely gives more weight to our arguments.. because to not agree with us is to advocate white extermination, which justifies your own.

What a shit thread. This poster gives some answers:

I answered his questions until it was clear hes just trying to push white genocide and doesnt give a fuck about what we believe except to be able to draft up counter-arguments in the name of wiping white people out.
Redpills arent for people like that, gas is.

if you want the origin of socialism youd need to read earlier than marx friendo. unless you believe he invented communism?
im just bored, so i figured id talk with you guys, to see if you can convince me. but for some reason you cant go three seconds without reeing about jews.
true, i figured i would just debate with historical revisionists.

You come here to be spoon fed but reject the spoon feeding. Fuck off.

you didnt respond to anything and only threatened to kill me

huh

you cant extrapolate demographic trends into the future bud

Then why did you come here asking questions that require paragraphs to answer?
And why are you pretending you need to go anywhere?
You have nowhee to go, you're just getting tired of shilling like the faggot you.

Actually, yes, they are… That said, we're not talking about a few IQ points - in the context of niggers, we're talking a full standard deviation on the average, which has far-reaching and expansive effects.
In the US, 70 is the cut-off for declaration of mental retardation, and amongst the US Black population - average IQ 85 - about as many US Blacks (~10% of population) fall into the category of retarded (sub 70) as do exceed the White average (over ~100, worse if you go 102).
The average IQ of Africa is about 70. The average IQ of the US White is about 102.

You should probably look into the concept of 'proportionality' while you're doing your genetics research.

It really does m8. And considering I had to explain the concept of natural selection as an evolutionary process to you, you're in no position to pontificate.

Well, you're wrong.
He's an exception to the rule then, isn't he? Basically, you're willing to subject Blacks to hardship in competition against a more cognitively-advanced clade of hominid, merely for the sake of the outliers.
You're a bad person, morally, if you believe such is just and righteous.
How would he ever be in competition against a White man in an ethnostate, if a core intent is to avoid such competition of clades within an ethnostate?
Please try to keep up.
You are, and you know as much, which is why you made the comment.

i came here for sources, and i got them. im not complaining bud, dont be upset.

Killing you is an argument. Might makes right.

No Jews, no problems. This is why people have to lurk, you dont have it figured out, and your ignorance is going to get you treated the same way the UN treated people who "participated, facilitated, or were complicit with genocide".
Thats your future. A rope, you genocide promoting criminal.

Always reply to shils with redpills. Not because of them, but to others reading. Images. But yeah, thread should have been moderated ages ago because OP is obviously an outsider doing work

I want to hold out hope that other races (with one big fucking exception) can have their own ethno-states, but of course, you have to prepare for war, and to make your races state the strongest it can possibly be on the international stage so that no one can defeat you and destroy your people. Peace through strength.

im strawmanning because im not really reading the arguments presented. ill give you that one.
once again, you keep forcing the IQ == intelligence meme, which is flat out incorrect. i know i used the term, and i probably shouldve typed something else, but its just a false number to use to represent all of human cognition.

And you should do that too! Ideas develope over time, as you clearly understand, so why would you think that significant component of that development should be ignored?
You argued that The Communist Manifesto was not relevant as goes someone seeking insight into National Socialism, and my response was that it helps gain a grasp on the mindsets and perspectives of those promoting a given circumstance, specifically Marxist Communism.
If you seek insight into National Socialism, the writings of Marx - throughout his life - are certainly relevant, just as they would have been relevant to those at the time of the National Socialist regime.
No, you're just a disingenuous pinko, we get you fags in here a lot. You're quite-literally LARPing.
If you'd lurked, you'd know why.
And you've done a piss poor job of it m8.
I mean, Christ, you've basically exposed you have no grasp on the subject matter, across multiple fronts.
Its rare to find someone who, when bored, seeks to make an ass of themselves, but, well, exceptions in all things I suppose.

Pic related is enough reason to remove them from any country. The second pic related is them admitting they never change, and never will. So this still happens, they admitted it.

You dont need a phd in socialist history to get the general premise and soul of communism, Plus you will read more than enough about communism in the other books, the manifesto is more to let you know that we are not attacking a strawman but actually what they stand for.

It's also not true. White woman have the biggest in-group preference of all groups, while males go out and bleach shitskin girls in much bigger proportions - which you could have notice if you go to places like Latin America… or Asia, or Europe, or pretty much anywhere outside your basement playing cuck fag-fetish porn to your non-white ass and guess the ethnicity of the people behind the companies producig these…

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The rest of the people around you will see it, and you just wont exist anymore. Thats how problems are solved.

MODS ARE ASLEEP
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I know. That's why I said it. You're just here to LARP, and, as I said above, we get you fags in here pretty regularly.
The fact that you said it doesn't make it true, and as you've admitted you aren't engaging the argumentation and are here just to shitpost, well… Why would anyone take you seriously in such claims? Especially given you have no grasp on any sort of life-science whatsoever, nor even the ideological/philosophical materials under discussion, which you've tried to conceal via dismissiveness.
Not ALL of human cognitition, certainly not… But all of it that matters in the context under discussion, certainly; at the VERY least, a significant portion of that which is of import in this context under discussion, and that's whats of import in our discussion.

Cogntive ability is highly heritable as a conglomeration of genetic traits, and while environmental factors certainly contribute to some degree, the idea that this is a greater, more significant contribution than innate factors has been pretty well disproven.

The only reason you even have that place in which to hide is because our society has bowed to cowardice - we no longer have the courage, like yourself, on a societal level, to examine the reality without any concerns over hurt feelings.
As you and those like you run almost-exclusively on feels - extra amusing given how often you'll attempt to project such onto others - its really no surprise that you don't have the courage to look the devil in the eye in this context, I suppose.

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Yeah, you're getting desperate there, leftycuck. Go back to /trannypol/…

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Whites have a sub 2.0 replacement rate in all countries, 1 child per 2 adults, and you - people like you - anti-racists or anyone left of deport non-whites - have turned a 97% white country into 20% white by 2060, when it reaches 100 million. You have committed genocide, the punishment is death.

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MODS WE DEMAND AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY THIS POSTER REMAINS HERE.

Like I said
MODS ARE ASLEEP
POST REDPILLS

it was fun i guess. its interwting seeing pol get whipped up over things i know are wrong.
i figured about half of the arguments here would be just denying what i say, and i was right. half the time you guys just call me kikes and say im doing this and that becausr you said so.
well, of course, did you not read the OP? i came here for answers. and nazis like to revise history and keep an echo chamber anyway, so i cant really argue against that without all the historical happenings of the Third Reich on my side. but im sjre even then it would just be jewish lies eh?

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Its really sad that we're too cowardly as a society at this point to really face up to this stuff, these innate inequalities.
Africa is such a beautiful country, its a shame the niggers can't be exposed to eugenics to preserve it and maintain it, or at least exterminated to make way for European expansion.

Imperialism was a mistake.

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theres a reason he had to invade so much territory and kill the bankers who owed him money.
apart from just jews and niggers suck, i mean
the rest are pretty strawmanny so ill just leave them be.

You and I both know that its not what is true, but what is believed. Thats your main weapon, and regardless of how true the things we say are - you just dismiss truth as subjective and not true. Well were going to flip the tables, because this isnt about votes anymore, its about waking up enough people to put a stop to the problem.. and that means what YOU believe is irrelevant, because what THEY believe is that they are being exterminated.. and if they are right (which they are) is irrelevant. Its who is going to be more motivated.
So who is it? Who do you think cares more, those with thousands of years of history and their racial survival on their backs, or your buddies who think capitalism is evil and they should be redistributed peoples wealth.

Entrails will be dragged through the streets, and it wont be communists doing the dragging.

Africa is a continent

I've read erectus walks among us twice and use that as well as everything else I've learned here to teach people one on one that race exists and is far more than "skin deep".

Dipshit.
THE ONLY THING THE COLONIAL POWERS DID WRONG WAS LEAVE ANYONE ALIVE IN THE LANDS THEY CONQUERED.

archive.org/details/MeinKampf_154
archive.org/details/HitlerTableTalk
Hitler hated all slavs, especially Russians

He didn’t. 1933 to 1939 wasn’t war economy. Eat shit and die, you fucking kike.
Reported.

>>>/out/

My race folder is woefully small
Time for the rest of my folders I suppose

and im the larper smh
its time to go to bed

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Oh fuck, your mental illness keeps going.
JEWS HATED SLAVS, YOU FUCKING YID. THEY WANTED ALL SLAVS EXTERMINATED. THE JEW FUCKING CRIES OUT IN PAIN AS HE STRIKES YOU. THE COMMIES HAD PLANS TO EXTERMINATE ALL RUSSIANS, AND THEN THEY PROJECTED THEIR HATRED ONTO NAZIS. KIND OF LIKE, OH, I DON’T KNOW THE CAMPS.

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but its not though, ill let you figure out why.
also . . .
you guys really are /reddit/ huh

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Youre irrelevant, laugh all you want. The future is ours, and you have no place in it.

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I once asked someone to direct me to the passage in mein kampf where he called slavs untermensch, (They asked a similar question) there was no mention of untermensch in the entire chapter.

All he said about the slavs was that they were living on land he wanted and something would have to be done about that.

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Reported.

Yes yes, more dismissiveness to hide your shame. Seen it all before.
Given you don't even have a grasp on evolutionary theory though, the idea that you 'know' much of anything seems rather dubious.
Well, when you spout a bunch of retarded shit, you're liable to be called a retard m8.
Well, you do put off the air of a kike lad. And its usually pretty obvious as to the motives of folks like you - again, we get you constantly.
No you didn't. You came here with your mind already made up, you've basically already admitted such.
Nah, we tell history like it is - people like you like to revise history. Usually for political ends.
Yes, its the ebul Nahtzees who love their echo chambers… Wonder chamber you heard that echoing around in.
Others like you have tried, and they're usually pretty piss poor at it too. Perhaps a shared trait in your population.
Depends. Might instead be Allied lies. You know, those ebul capeetaleests you hate so much.
I'm sure they'd never lie though. Certainly not.
I mean, the Soviet Union? Truly a bastion of credibility, eh comrade?


It sure is. Got a lil Nazi in there yourself, dontcha comrade?


Exterminating them would have saved us, not keeping them around m8.
Exactly.


Its honestly not that hard on a one-to-one basis - people know the score, its just at the societal level that we're too cowardly to face it.

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You are quite literally a larper, yes.
We're almost to the point where you throw up your hands and run away.
Besides, didn't you say you had to go somewhere?

sry i cant read entire books in about the 3 hours this thread has been active, i guess im not aryan enough huh

what, where did i go on about civil wars?

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Okay, its now a holocaust redpill thread, congrats, you just dug your hole deeper.

Neither have you…
Witness testimony is the worst evidence there is comrade.

You could have shut the fuck up and gone to read them awhile ago. You chose to stay here and larp more.

Didn't you say you had to go somewhere?

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This is a reminder to everyone that we've been getting quite a few "pls redpill me, just a question goy" threads lately.

I strongly suspect a grad student at Liberal Faggot U is studying us for a term paper. That, or ShareBlue has gotten its shit wired and contracted with a think tank to figure out how to defeat us. Good luck, fagets

No Replies; Sage for CIA Nigger

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Well if we're doing that.

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you understand how closeminded and echochamber-y this place has gotten eh? im telling you youre misinterpreting my arguments, revising history, reading past points i make because its convenient, and refusing to debate on a level that isnt meaningless namecalling and screaming on an anime imageboard. not to mention you also seem to have a pretty . . . incorrect view on nazi germany. i tried to talk in good faith, but you guys literally just call me a jew 10 replies in when i give some kind of criticism to the flaws of your ideology.
its almosr as if you need complete censorship of everything and a hivemind for natsoc to work.

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its a little more than that but i understand reading is hard.

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Welp i think im done for today, thanks for introducing me to your ideology Holla Forums. learned a lot about you, a lot about me. I learned enough to do some independent research into NatSoc, and learned about how Holla Forums sees the world. I just hope we can end on a happy note, I promise not to reply anymore.

BTW youre all basically SJWs that are useful idiots for the people who are really running the show

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Quite a bit less so than pretty much every other forum on the internet.
Comrade, your projection is astounding.
Says the fellow who already admitted he has no grasp on Nazi Germany.

No, you didn't.
Plenty of others addressed your points, myself included, without ever calling you a Jew. It was only after you started to act like a Jew - when you purposefully and blatantly misinterpreted arguments, attempted to deny history, and refused to debate in good faith - that you were called such.
And even then, others continued to engage you, despite all your obvious faggotry.

But you were never censored at all.
Its almost like you're being incredibly disingenuous again, whilst projecting your behavior onto others… Which is, well, very Jewish m80.

You know that though.

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This one's my favorite

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Thanks for the antagonizing. Really enjoyed the energy in this thread.
Hope they're paying you, the one-man-show shill, well. Your tiredness started to show, but you've been at it for 2.5 hrs with no meaningful back-up. Catch you later.

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Check out this pastebin: pastebin.com/BUU4tbiw

Dont forget to consider suicide.

I'm still gonna dump my holohoax folder. At least til I get bored. We haven't had a good redpill thread in a while.

tip top kike


Oh christ I didn't even see this.
LEL

Read Darwin faggot, and learn what proportionality is.

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I'm already bored, I keep posting til 300 so if any user cares to carry on after please do.

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yup
Nazi leaders used to get along with Muslim leader back then because both of them wanted their own ethnostate and believed race mixing would destroy them
there were plenty of Black Nazis to
as for slavs, they hated them cus communism came from the slav side of the world, that's mostly the reason why they wanted to get rid of them

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If you want to dump fast, you can post multiple images per post, like

I'm personally a bigger fan of redpills in the forms of videos. Embed is my favorite one regarding the holohoax

Retard

Hes dumping 1 at a time to kill the thread on purpose I imagine.

The point was to simply take up replies to the thread. see

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Germans were too soft

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I checked NYT Archives where almost all of these excerpts come from. They're all there save a few which I can't find.

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Ooh. Ooh. A list with fucking citations. What site is this?

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Note: There’s no record anywhere of him saying this, and the 2.4 number is incorrect.

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