Trump Offers Putin a Piece of North Korea

And Putin accepts offer.

archive.is/qh70n
uk.businessinsider.com/russia-trump-and-putin-agreed-to-share-information-on-north-korea-2017-12?r=US&IR=T

Other urls found in this thread:

archive.is/xCj1C
newsweek.com/kim-il-sung-kim-jong-il-641776
archive.is/V7TxH
en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/56382
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus
zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/oil-gas-war-over-syria-4-maps)
edition.cnn.com/2017/08/16/politics/trump-kim-north-korea-tweet/index.html
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Armistice_Agreement
kreml.ru/en-Us/exhibitions/moscow-kremlin-exhibitions/shlem-ivana-groznogo/
thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Shelomo
nameberry.com/babyname/Shelomo
huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korean-prisons-nazi-camps_us_5a2fad6ce4b0461754330e3d
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

It's weird how two Christian white guys who were raised under the thumb of the Jewish mafia are somehow working together to prevent Jewish wars, yet Israel finally got it's Messiah meme city. There are so many double fients going on its like a battle between Conner Mcgreger and Bruce Lee.

I'm so fucking confused. Where is William Pierce when you need him.

*feints

Good goy. Israel totally wants war with the country that has the government it wants for the whole world and which it sends gold despite the embargo.
archive.is/xCj1C

I really wish I could listen in to their conversations.

This won't be enough. The kikes want their war with NK they'll get their war with NK.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Imagine being that brainwashed.(Kike)

See:

I was really hoping NK was a trap set up by BRIC to stop Chicagofication of the world. But too good to be true of course.

...

newsweek.com/kim-il-sung-kim-jong-il-641776
archive.is/V7TxH

...

Nice attempt at narrative pushing. A real shame it's getting you negative results.

Syria you stupid nigger

Imagine Hillary

Hahaha literally a plebbit NNigger.

Shills have tried to push the 'you're just contrarian' narrative for years now and this filthy kike thinks it's going to magically start working.

I like North Korea, they hate kikes and South Korea, and so do I.

No, North Korea is not Syria. Please try again.

It's a script, gotta be, right?

Just a hidey hole for communists I mean globalists I mean jews.

Most likely the Russians just want to make sure that no nuclear conflict happens.
For them preserving the status quo is desirable

Get fucked kike.

...

Said nobody

It's a bunch of fucking israeli kikes and their shareblue and related sidekick kikes stateside. They use scripts just like a pajeet call center. They all need to be hung from the neck until dead.

Just complementing this picture with a .webm

And China got nothing from Afghanistan for staying silent while the bodies of innocent muslims piled up in the Middle East.

...

probably not even that. probably an actual kike bastard sitting there with his latkas and slightly tweaking this post every time he sees a Trump-related thread.

...

...

Two Jew puppets planning to destroy one of the only countries without a Rothschilds owned bank? nu-8/pol/ will love this.

Gook Communists working as a proxy for Communist China who worship a man as their mommy.
Fuck off with your best korea memes

There is no other way to bring America down. Either Putin is stupid and thinks Moscow will somehow escape being saved by the U.S. or he too believes the rest of the world must be sacrificed for Israel.

Let's go take a look at the actual statement.
en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/56382

That's it. MSM can spin this however they want. If you rely solely on western media or Soros/US-funded (((blogs))) to get information on NK (& other countries) you have no business making threads. If this basic requirement is asking too much, don't get butthurt if you get called out for low effort or worse accusations.

Russia sent a military delegation to NK (It's the second time. The first one was within the last few weeks if I recall correctly). At the request of NK, Moscow told the US what the current position of NK is on talks: "We'll talk but first the other side has to stop military drills". Anything else you see or read on this right now is most likely bullshit.

>he thinks trusting the (((kremlin))) is good too
You wouldn't eat shit from a pig when you thought the shit from the cow wasn't good enough, would you?

What is the level of international (((banking))) control within Japan and Better Korea? Noko realistically poses no threat to the U.S. and all our military posturing seems at the behest of the two allies actually in their striking range.

...

I have posted this about 20 times now and anti Russian shills can never explain

Very simple. Why did Putin save Syria from ISIS if hes part of the zog?

Warm water port.

I doubt very much he's a part of the ZOG, However i also doubt he would overtly cross them and no doubt has some deep ties. He had a clear reason to back Syria, to prevent a NATO backed pipeline for natgas to europe which would fuck over the virtual monopoly that Russia currently has, and therefore take away what little leverage he has left over the EU. Thats my take on it, but I'm also a newfag who has only recently finished 2.5 years of lurking.

You are confusing Syria with UKRAINE.

This doesn't make sense because the exact same people who rule Israel rule the EU. No shit Russia wants more money and power and that pipeline is huge but you arent answering my question. If Putin and Russia were under control of by zionists why did he 1) bomb their ISIS army 2) save Syria which is one of Israel's biggest threats and next door neighbour?

The only answer you can come up with is that Putin is not only not under their control but also one of their biggest enemies. Therefor Putin is not a "kike shill" no matter how many greasy wall pics you guys have of him.

I can tell. You don't even 4D chess, brah.

Why are you implicating that everyone is directly reporting to a singular entity
The zog is not a singular person with one agenda and ruleset

Why are you pointing the finger back at me instead of answering a very simple question? :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus

As Sheldon Adelson proved, everybody's got a price. Now that Putin's got a pipeline, he's not going to stop wanting other nice things. Maybe he told Trump he would like two pipelines.

I dont understand. Your saying they let Putin destroy ISIS and take partial control of the region?

...

Putin just recognized palestine as a nation IIRC.

You act like Putin will be the one getting killed in battle. You act like Russia hasn't been propped up as a giant boogeyman the last few years and the leader of the nation could be there to serve as CO. You act like Russia didn't receive uranium from Clinton. You act like Muslims aren't flooding Moscow. You act like Russia doesn't persecute WN. You act like the oligarchs of the nation aren't Jews.

...

If you are going to force Russia China and Iran into WW3 with NATO why does it matter if you make a couple hundred million before this happens?


Do they get huge welfare benefits like in the EU or do they have to contribute to society? Putin had to make friends with the Shia Muslim world because he was sure the USA/jews were going to force WW3 and he needed all the allies he could get. Those Shia Muslims in Russia would die fighting for Russia, there is a big difference between there and whats going on in the EU.


Russia is at the center of the world for trying to make peace with Christianity and Religion of Cuck™. They do the same thing to Muslim nationalists.

Both countries have oligarch problems that are not easy to fix but making a blank statement like blaming Putin for allowing jewish billionaires to exist in his country is a pretty dishonest argument. You don't know if he is limiting their power or slowly taking it away or leaving them alone or empowering them.

...

Concerned with the shekels I see. Who is forcing it? Clinton? Then I ask why'd she sell it if Russia is truly anti-kike? Plus the point isn't Clinton, the point is Putin warming up to and being indebted to kikes. You don't need to accept Shia Muslims into your nation to be friends with them. Bend over a little further. He does the same for Muslim nationalists? That's fine. An anti-kike would realize it isn't a Muslim nation. It is white. Muslim countries don't persecute Muslim nationalists. I don't blame Trump for oligarchs, I understand he is controlled by them. The same with Putin. The whole point here is we realize how kiked the system of the USA is but seem to think this foreign land in the east is based and free of kike dominance because USA media portrays it as an ultra conservative government.

Your initial question doesn't reliably infer shit because simply going to war against someone the kikes like doesn't mean you are not controlled by them. They fund both sides. This is basic shit.

There's so much wrong with your post I don't know where to begin

Why does it matter? Russia already has thousands of nukes so whats more uranium going to accomplish?

Obama and Hillary were selling out everything they could from America to enrich themselves. If the whole world was going to be forced into ww3 why does selling uranium even matter?


You offer no explanation of this.


Im not agreeing with his policy but when so many of the Shia countries are getting (((attacked))) constantly for the last how many centuries where are they going to go? Iran took a lot of them in and so did Russia and even though I don't want this to happen to my country you have to acknowledge that that Muslim situation in Russia is far different than the EU situation.


Why do you correlate befriending mostly Shiites with being a kike? Putin built a Muslim army in his own country as well as building a strong alliance with Iran. When all of this dust is settled in the ME there are going to be huge benefits towards Russia for sticking its neck out so far for Muslims.


They both are fighting them.


ROFL the US media is promoting Russia as "based"?

This is what happens when shareblue shills try and type more than smug anime girls or one sentence "your a faggot kike" posts. You made it a little further then most, Ill give you that.

Neocohen retard spotted.

Explain what a rothchild bank is going to do in a country where the main cuisine is rat?

Clinton Bush Obama all allowed or helped NK get to where it is. Trump did the opposite. Nice talking point though, might wanna get shareblue HQ to strike that off the list.

At least 5 reasons, in no particular order:

1. putting Russia back at the table, making it relevant by default
2. testing new weapons and tactics
3. Tartus, only Russian naval base in the Med.
4. not losing an important ally
5. the famous pipeline (read this: zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/oil-gas-war-over-syria-4-maps)

This is basic geopolitics.

Having said that, the war in Syria is far from over. ISIS is beaten while the Kurds have become way way stronger than they ever where and are nowhere near beaten (check the maps). And now that Putin is retiring his troops from Syria it's laughable to suggest that he did save Syria. He helped destroy ISIS, yes, but nothing more and now the SAA will have to face the Kurds while he's leaving Syria.

Btw, here's something else to consider, Syria is a Baathist country (Baathism being more or less an Arabic form of Fascism) and the Syrians are a deeply Baathist people, Kurds OTOH are a bunch of commies. They're not conservatives, they're not reactionaries and they sure as hell aren't Fascists or National Socialists. They're fucking commies.

Beyond all the fanfare and diplomatic blabla, who do you think the Russians feel closer to? The same Russians who use fascist as the ultimate slur and celebrate the defeat of the Axis more than anyone else? Fascist Syrians or Commie Kurds? Oh!

And as I said, now that ISIS is beaten and Russia is leaving the SAA to it's own devices, the Kurds NOT the Syrians got a lot stronger, and I mean A LOT. Oh!

You and many other morons who understand nothing of geopolitics got played, you fool.

client state rather

ISIS is part of Israel, not the other way around you crippled baboon. In fact, Israel isn't the only 'ally' of ISIS, there's a few more like Saudi Arabia. So you're doubly wrong.

Same thing they do in every country. Generate debt.

Actually it's very easy to bring the USA down.
And its happening right now. The petrodollar is slowly being ditched. Without it the USA is dead

Then the USA will have to compensate by not having military bases all over the planet. Are you implying America can't surivev on its own? Mattis even said they're going to have to shut a few bases down.

Trump, Putin, Merkel, Macron. Saqme side of the same Freemason shekel. They sold their soul to be part of Rotschild's little NWO game.

So fuck em. We will bring the revolution to their doorstep.

It is possible for Trump to play chicken with Kim. And win. We know this because of this action from Kim.
edition.cnn.com/2017/08/16/politics/trump-kim-north-korea-tweet/index.html

The problem is not the artillery pointing towards Seoul, it has done that for over 50 years and can keep doing that for the next 50. The problem is nuclear bombs and ICBM's. That is what it all boils down to. Getting rid of North Korea's nuclear bombs and ballistic missiles.
How to do it? Trump plays chicken with NK, Russia and China.
Here is how. Simply tell NK, Russia and China that you are going to bomb the infrastructure and missiles. Tell them in advance, several days in advance, tell the world in advance. Tell everyone that it is nuclear war if NK responds by bombing Seoul, but that if he wishes to have a conventional war, he is free to declear it. Back in the old days, Kings would do the honourable thing and declear war in advance.
Of course Kim will try and move some missiles around, but USA should be able to find them anyways.
DO NOT! Start bombing all of Kim's vital infrastructure that keeps him in power, then he will have no option, don't corner him. If he knows in advance the attacks are coming, if he knows it is only the nuclear and missiles programs that are getting hit, he is not cornered, he keeps his power.
Meanwhile, make backrooms deals with China and Russia and NK. Give something in return for Kim losing his nukes/ICBM's. Something as simple as ample food might do it, and also a complete lift of all sanctions. Give Kim something that will help him consolidate his power as Supreme Leader.
You don't even have to bomb everything in one night, because this is chicken, if you take out one missile one night, and Kim has several left, that only means Kim will have to decide if that is the night he wants to die in a nuclear holocaust or keep being Supreme Leader. Given Kim's past reactions, he will chose Supreme Leader, I am sure of it.

How is this not the best course of action?

proof that Russia are controlled opposition. i wonder how jew controlled China is, they seem like the only legit threat to the zog currently

STOP POL CENSORSHIP
Remove the Holla Forums mod
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
FIX POL
polpol

Well China overall doesn't mind North Korea having nuclear weapons. If anything it suits them as it makes North Korea impossible to invade.

But your overall idea of launching an attack on the North Korean nuclear infrastructure completely ignores WHY North Korea wants nuclear weapons.
Which is to make North Korea immune to invasion. Nobody invades a nuclear power, it's a terrible idea. This is why Iran and North Korea want nukes to protect them from the USA.

The second the USA starts attacking the Nork nuclear infrastructure the Norks will assume its a prelude to an invasion and immediately launch their full counterattack.
This is why the USA hasn't done the shit its done with Iran, they know the Norks are in a position to do some serious damage to US interests in the area.

You say Kim can't have nukes and remain supreme leader. I say the opposite. Kim can not remain supreme leader without nukes.

Russia and China allowing Kim to get nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles is the same if USA gave Japan and SK nuclear missiles.
But, someone might say, dont USA have nukes in SK? Well yes, but the fucking SK government can't fire them. Big difference. How would China feel if USA gave Japan nuclear missiles and the japanese government had full control over them and when they should be fired.
If Russia or China wants to move in some nukes into NK, let them. But Kim has no control over them.

You must have trouble reading. Why would they assume that if you tell them in advance? Try again. Kim already backed down once, he will again. If the option is to die in a nuclear fire or stay as Supreme Leader with lifted sanctions and some goodies in form or money or goods from the USA, he won't do shit.

Even if Japan and South Korea had their own nuclear programs they would remain vassal states of the USA. There's no difference in the eyes of the Chinks and Bears.

You assume that they consider the USA reliable or trustworthy.
Protip they don't.

No, I don't. I'm assuming Kim understands that if he fires of a nuclear missile, it's "game on" as Mattis said. I'm assuming that Kim understands that if he bombs the shit out of Seoul in retaliation for a bombing of some missiles and buildings, then that also means a nuclear carpet bombing.
That is the two things I'm assuming. Kim will back down, he did it before and he will again.

The USA can't use nuclear weapons on North Korea without starting a war with China and Russia.
The USA can't win a war with China or Russia.
North Koreas independence is guaranteed by China as they have stated repeatedly. So if the USA launches an attack then thats war with China.

The yanks can't do shit. That's why we've had this stalemate for half a century and why its driving the yanks so bugfuck crazy.

That is a fairly dumb statement btw. England and France are not vassal states to the USA the same way as other nations without nuclear weapons are.

South Korea is an outright vassal. The USA controls its foreign policy and this is no secret.
Japan is the USA's largest nuclear aircraft carrier. This is also no secret. It also exercises considerable control over Japanese foreign policy.

France and the UK are different being too independently powerful and willful to be forced to accept vassalage. The USA must settle for conventional influence.

Yes they can. Putin and Xi will back down. I don't know why you think that they wouldn't.
Simply tell them in advance. We are going to bomb this and this. What are you going to do about it? They will back down.

they're going to assassinate him either way, why wouldnt he go down fighting?

As they did with his father or grandfather?
Was Trump trying to assasinate anyone when he launched 50 cruise missiles into the syrian airbase?
Whether or not one believes there was any chemichal attack is not the point. The whole situation get defused by Trump telling them in advance.
Kim is not going to think the USA is going to try and kill him if the USA calls him up and say.
"From a week from now we are going to bomb this and this, get your men out of the way. And if you retaliate with nukes or bombing Seuol, your dead along with your entire country"

It's going to be like the Cuba-crisis all over. Good times! And everyone will back down in the end.

Or just another boomer-age clueless politician.


Only a socialist loon politician gives benefits to a company selling basically the same equal food everywhere so a chain selling Russian food is eventually shut down. Even worse, Putin's successor will be advised/threatened by McDonald's after a bubble to let in more black immigrants to prevent shutting down hundreds of restaurants and destroying the economy. They of course can't show up on time and not attack customers so the welfare system will have to be expanded to care for the millions who can't find jobs because they have chronic tardiness and attacking customers on their resumes. The prison system too. Nobody learned from America's mistakes it seems.

Mattis is hardcore. He has no children. Let him read my idea and let him handle it. Everyone will back the fuck off when a childless general in charge of the greatest army the world has ever seen says
"game on"
Let him explain it to Russia, China and NK.

Why would they trust the USA?
You're a god damn idiot.

If North Korea falls to the USA then the only assumption China can make is that it is a prelude to a US invasion of China.
Because that is all it can be, that is why the USA wants North Korea. It's the only way they can invade China with any hope of success.
If China falls then Russia knows its next. So they will not let China fall.

They can't afford to back down from the USA because if they do then their nations will be conquered.

That's a dumb post.

I'm not counting on them to trust the USA.

You have trouble reading.

You really do have trouble reading.

You sincerly have trouble reading.


Good goy, invading Russia, what could possibly go wrong! Not even Ghenghis Khan could take all of Russia.

It all boils down to making NK getting rid of nukes and ballistic missiles and nothing else.

At no point will Russia or China, two nuclear powers, expect that USA will start a land invasion of them, because the USA is bombing NK.

You are a prime example of being unable to think more than a step ahead.

If the USA takes out North Koreas nuclear capabilities then it must be assumed it is a prelude to invasion.
North Korea must think along those lines because the consequences of not thinking along those lines are being unprepared for a US invasion.
If the USA wasn't going to invade it wouldn't have to deal with the Norks nuclear deterrent.

For China if the USA is going to invade North Korea then it is a prelude to an invasion of China. Because the only reason the USA cares about North Korea is because it provides the only viable route for a US invasion of China.
The USA can not present a credible military threat to China by any other means.
As such China must treat an attack on North Korea as a threat to them. This is why they guarantee its independence.

So a US attack on North Koreas nuclear deterrent is a signal of its intentions. Which are to invade North Korea and through it China.

Without China on the international scene soaking up so much US attention and resources the Russians will be in a serious bind trying to stand up to the USAs global hegemonic ambitions.
So for the Russians they need China intact which means they need the Korean situation to remain as is.

Not at all.
Does not matter. Because the alternative to not accepting the bombing is nuclear war. They can't win a conventional air-war. So the only retalition to the bombing is to try and shot the planes down, which they can't,(and it's acceptable if they do shot down some), or bomb Seoul or fire of their nuclear missiles. Which means certain destruction.


You blame me for not thinking one step ahead. The US has no interest in a invasion of China, why would they? Why would China think that the US wants to fucking invade China? And China will still have nuclear deterrent, so your argument is invalid. Xi won't do shit.

You have some trouble understanding just how hard it is to invade China and Russia. No one is thinking along those lines and neither Putin or Xi feels an actual land invasion is on the table.
Do Xi and Putin want to start a war with the USA over NK losing their nuclear missiles and in return get some good backroom deals that solidifies China's contol over NK? They will simply accept the backroom deal.
China and Russia will lose zero power just because NK no longer has nuclear weapons.

And all of this presumes that NK won't turn it's nukes on China the instant that NK doesn't like a deal that it has with China. As I have noted often, nukes that can hit Hawaii can also hit ANYWHERE in China.

fat dubs dood. also agreed

quads*

North Korea can't win but they can make Korea uncontrollable for the USA.
That's as good as a win as it inevitably results in a US withdrawal from Korea.

And the USA is very interested in invading China.
Extremely so in fact.
Ever since WW2 the USA has been pratting about in the region flexing its muscles and trying to get China to do what it says.
But every time the USA makes a demand the Chinese go "lol fag" and ignore them.
The USA does not present a credible military threat to China. And this drives the USA completely up the wall because it's not a position they're used to being in.

When a nation disrespects them like this the USAs usual response is to attack them one way or another but nothing they can do is working on China. It's essentially invincible against the USA.
They can't launch a successful military invasion, their culture war efforts have failed utterly and their repeated attempts to instigate civil unrest and coups have all failed completely.

North Korea is the USAs only way of resolving this issue. If they can take North Korea they can launch a successful invasion of China. Assuming they can hold all of Korea.
That is why South Korea is a US vassal and why the USA has laid siege to North Korea for half a century.

Everyone other than the USA wants the status quo to continue.
China are the ones providing the means for North Korea to pursue its nuclear deterrent program.
Uncle Sam is the villain of this tale.

noone gives a shit about China except for the fact everyone hates them for their arrogance, their insectoid obliviousness of the outside world
North Korea is a delicious morsel, if the USA and Russia agree to devour it together and share the rare earth metals they wish to possess then China couldnt do anything but throw a tantrum but ultimately sit on its haunches like the impotent cucks they are

the US navy has the ability to render the Eastern coast of China a wasteland
if war were declared on China, every single nation on China's borders would invade China, they would form a coalition with US forces leading them

The US could easily beat down China if it was really dedicated.

Do the same thing the British did. Don't fight a land war in mainland China, that's pants on head retarded.
Use a naval blockade, most of China's economic production and it's heaviest population concentration are along the pacific coast.
China is trying to develop a navy, and maybe one day it will be a match. But right now, if it came to naval confrontation, the US navy would absolutely demolish the Chinese navy and could completely shut down the coastline.

If the Chinese economy goes down so too does the USAs which is at this point reliant on Chinese slave labour.

Sail Royal Navy gunships up and down the coast decimating the chinese fleets and bombarding coastal fortifications into rubble
then sail up and down their main rivers in the same gunboats and destroy all military resistance
meanwhile the chinks send false reports to the emperor that They're the ones who were winning against the British to make the emperor/party happy and get promotions


tbh theres slave labour nearly everywhere these days
companies are moving out of China and into bigger shitholes like Indonesia, the Phillipines, Malaysia and India where its even cheaper

Are you a fucking retard? If the US has "always wanted to invade china" why the fuck didn't they do it 60 years ago like suggested? Why didn't they roll into russia at the end of ww2 like patton pleaded? Because they didn't want to. Jews set up the USSR, Jews set up the PRC, and Jews usurped America. They did not want to invade and end their communist honeyholes.

Problem there is that the Chinese military are well prepared for US attacks. They don't have much naval capacity but they're well positioned in regards to long range rockets. Any US fleet sailing near China is going to have a difficult time with constant rocket attacks.

Nothing a well equipped air force couldn't effectively neutralize beforehand

I like this thread and the posts. A lot of good arguments, good to see there still some life on this board. We are still at war with NK we just signed a cesse fire

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Armistice_Agreement
Also the Korean war was just a proxy war to fight china

Freeballin on the phone man didn't wanna reddit space. I'm suggesting his doing business with Clinton/Podesta is a red flag. Muslims are 6-15% of the population. In no way do I think having Shiites as allies is kiked. I think having 300k-1 million Muslim residents in Moscow (not the Tartar region) and 1.5 million migrant workers there is kiked. There can be huge benefits for sticking their neck out financially and militarily. No, I am saying we here buy into the evil Putin narrative the USA media puts forth about Putin and thus react the opposite way to it than liberals. People here think he is based then because he is more conservative than we are used to.

I answered your question no one was answering didn't I?

The reason is the USA couldn't pull off such ambitious military campaigns.

WW2 had revealed huge problems with US military strategic planning and logistics expertise. Remember it was their first real foray into war. Prior to that the conflicts the USA had been involved in were considerably more low key and often primitive. Its participation in WW1 was negligible.

There was no way the USA could have pushed all the way through to Moscow and beyond the Urals.
And if it tried then it would be severely weakened by the attempt which would lose it the relative power boost it had obtained over the old colonial powers whose heavy involvement in both world wars had left them considerably weakened.

WW2 handed the USA most of the world on a silver platter.
But they had to consolidate that, if they kept pushing then Britain, France and even Spain would have presented real competition to the USA in the global arena and the USA would have been less able to further weaken the colonial powers.

Patton was essentially hopped up on the success he'd bought with the lives of others and convinced he could keep going if only more lives would be given to him to spend.

bullshit the russians had no aircraft most of the paratroopers were dead in finland and all of the land vehicles they had access to were fed to them by the allies patton shouldve been allowed to crush the communists

He'd have had to fight a long and brutal campaign across all the territory that the Red Army had taken.
Meanwhile the Russians who were still on a war footing would have been churning out equipment quite possibly using what they had looted from Germany and shipped back to Russia.

Russia had a manpower edge over the USA in terms of quantity.
The USA suffered considerable political damage and turmoil over its human losses in WW2 and they were tiny compared to the losses of other nations both in numbers and proportion of the population. Except for Russia.
The manpower needed to continue the fight would have probably resulted in considerable civil unrest in the USA.
That's before we get into the economic damage.

It wasn't feasible for the USA to pull this off.

He could have taken Berlin if the USAs allies had permitted him to kill more of their people.
But they were already pissed off with him for his other plans that had resulted in huge amounts of unnecessary death.

Overall Patton was blind to the wider picture.

And right there, you fucked up.

or we could've just nuked them

Possible. But then did the USA have the capability to produce more nuclear weapons quickly?
And to defeat the commies decisively and in the long term it would have required a US occupation of Russia and Eastern Europe

Stalin didnt have nukes until 1947 or aircraft/flak that could intercept a B-52 bomber
USA could have Hiroshima'd Stalin and the entire USSR communist party and freed Russia and the world from communism

no it wouldn't
communism collapses the moment the propaganda goes silent

and the USA was working with Britain and Canada producing fissile material round the clock to produce enough fuel for testing and production

Unlikely.
In the event of a continuation of war with the Soviets as the USAs new target the Soviet leadership would have enacted the ol' Russian backup plan and moved themselves to the other side of the Urals. Anticipating an inevitable nuclear strike on Moscow.
Meaning to strike at the Soviet leadership the USA would have needed to secure territory sufficiently close to wherever they happened to be.

And how do you prevent a new communist government emerging?

checked
and none of that wouldve been bad
imagine if you will patton leading the third army and army air corps in an invasion of russia lets assume it was slow and bloody, after hiroshima and nagasaki would the soviets have not capitulated under that threat?
lets assume they didn't, instead of fighting for stalingrad pic related happens how many a bombs would it take for a surrender? not many in my opinion but it doesnt matter much at this point

Not really, since at that point the US would have cut off lend-lease (they’re enemies now, nigger), and Moscow would fly the US flag within half a year. Patton wanted to REARM THE WEHRMACHT, remember.
Shit equipment. All of their stuff came from the US.
That's before we get into the economic damage.
It wasn't feasible for the USA to pull this off.
He could have taken Berlin if the USAs allies had permitted him to kill more of their people.
But they were already pissed off with him for his other plans that had resulted in huge amounts of unnecessary death.
Not really, given that we’d be fighting the real enemy that time. The people would be out for the democrats’ blood.

That’s what we want anyway.
It’s time for you to kill yourself, retard.
This is how retarded you are.
You’re blitheringly retarded.

Fuck you and your earlobe spacing. You made me fuck up my formatting.
What damage, faggot? Lend Lease did more damage than ENDING it would.
Which were those? Fuck our “allies”; they’re the ones who got us in the war in the first place. Kill them all.

FUCK YOU, YOU COCKSUCKING FAGGOT MODS. RÉDDIT SPACING.

Uh… you kill the fucking jews. Even if you don’t, there won’t be another commie government.

we should all remember that very important fact

Japan, Turkey and Iraq would have been in range enough

keep bombing it with nukes

Same way you prevent diseases from spreading. Educate people on the symptoms: a colleague talking about disrupting the business instead of forming their own competitive firm with allegedly superior communist "principles" and blacks appearing in the neighborhood to leech wealth. Then make it easy to report people with symptoms. Then contain these people.

And what a hilariously terrible idea it was.
You really think they wouldn't have turned on the literal invaders who actually embarked on an ethnic cleansing campaign against them that had to be stopped by the British?

you lost me

I don't see a problem if the goal is dead communists.

Guy breaks into your home, kills your family, steals your shit, rapes your women and tries to kill you.
Then he hands you a gun and tells you to die for him fighting some other guy.

What do you do? Other than turn the gun on the guy stupid enough to give you it.

Yeah, okay, reported. You’re a fucking imbecile.
You mean the Soviets? GEE HOW ABOUT THAT.

sounds bretty good to me

let me explain dubs man
you obviously shoot both the enemies, I think this was pattons plan a way to try and make up for his actions

That is because you're a cuckold who gets off on being abused.

It's no secret the USA and the French did this too.
The US military spent a lot of time rounding up civilians for execution or internment in death camps.

see

Note that the frogs and limeys didn’t like Operation Unthinkable and very well might have pulled out entirely. With the “allies” no longer allied, the US teaming up with a re-armed Germany would seem less like an enemy to the Germans, particularly since “hey, we were wrong; let’s slaughter commies together” is the message being sent.

That is a technicality. If either NK bombs SK or US bombs NK, it will rightfully so be seen as an act of agression.
"we are still technically at war so we don't have to give a heads up if we bomb you for the first time in half a century" is disingenuous.
It's true that the korean war was a proxy war, but I don't think the fear of an old school communist takeover is real any longer. Some people consider mob-rule the same as communists, but it's really not. Just women and coloured people that can vote.

The goodies for Kim could also be new military hardware from the US. Kim must be having some old artillery now. He must be interested in new artillery and weapons. It might seem weird to have the USA sell him artillery that he then points to SK and american troops, but anything beats NK having nuclear bombs and ICBM's. And it's not the first time the US armed their enemies (Bin Laden and ISIS comes to mind).
Have Russia sell him AA missiles. Just give Kim all he needs to upgrade his conventional army, but he has to get rid of nukes and ballistic missiles. Kim will accept, it's very telling that he backed down from Mattis.
If Trump/Mattis decides to play chicken, they will win. But Kim keeps his position and the North Korean people will stay oppressed for the next 50 years. So be it.

...

Partisans.

Without participating in the original argument this is an important point jews can't help but to jew which means that jews jew other jews. There isn't one cabal of 13 head kikes that sit around planning how to dominate the world it's literally just jews being jews.

North Korea is one of the worlds major arms manufacturers.
Yes that is as hilariously retarded as it sounds.
So the norks aren't hurting for relatively modern artillery.

Which was defined by the US military as anyone who spoke German.

Kek
you think the British were the brains behind de-nazification
British soldiers didnt liberate any concentration camps, they left the striped pajama guys in prison because there had to be a reason they were in there
it sure as shit wasn't the American or Soviet lines that German civilians and members of the Nazi party were fleeing towards for fair treatment/not getting raped and mugged by commies/niggers
no they all fled to the British sections because they knew the British were the only ones left in the war who were still abiding by the rules of war, taking POW's and handing out relief supplies instead of shooting every soldier on sight and stripping civilians of their watches and rings


big thing the US military was doing that meant Wehrmacht wouldnt try to surrender to US forces is because the US military didnt cart surrendered soldiers off to a prisoner camp or a field hospital
they just shot them

Putin's mother's name was Shelomova. It literally means "Daughter of Shlomo". He's a jew, even by their rules.

Except that's a lie.
kreml.ru/en-Us/exhibitions/moscow-kremlin-exhibitions/shlem-ivana-groznogo/
>The helmet is forged of steel and decorated with embossing technique and gold notches. It has a pointed top with a spike for affixing a yalovetz flag. In records of the XVIth-XVIIth centuries such headgear was referred to as shelom or sholom helmets.

for good measure, have some pictures of putin and family. All heavily slavic. No jewish features.

The ancestry of Vladimir Putin has been described as a mystery with no records surviving of any ancestors of any people with the surname ‘Putin’ beyond his grandfather Spiridon Ivanovich.
Vladimir Putin’s paternal grandfather, Spiridon Ivanovich Putin (1879–1965), was a chef who at one time or another cooked for Vladimir Lenin, Lenin’s wife Nadezhda Krupskaya, and on several occasions for Joseph Stalin. So Putin’s grandfather had personal connections with both Lenin and Stalin and he was trusted enough by them to be allowed to cook their meals. This relationship between the Putin family and top communist leaders brings to mind another thing to which the communists are connected: Judaism.

Wait a minute, is Trump for, or against the Jews?

What do you think?(Astroturf)

Say it ain't so!

Keep guessing.

>kreml.ru/en-Us/exhibitions/moscow-kremlin-exhibitions/shlem-ivana-groznogo/
I've never seen that link before, thanks. I'll look into shelom/"helmet" as a possible surname origin when I have time. I suppose it's possible that there are families who are descended from armorers or helmet makers(?) named Shelomov/a (though I have never heard of any), but I am not lying, Shelomo is in fact an alternate spelling of Shlomo, “Son/Daughter of Shelomo” is in fact a meaning of Shelomov/a (the only possible one I’ve ever come across before your post), and literally every Shelomov/Shelomova I can find is a jew (or a relative of Putin who you would dispute as jewish).

(pic 1) thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Shelomo
(pic 2) nameberry.com/babyname/Shelomo

As far as your pictures I do not consider them “heavily slavic looking” (especially Katerina’s nose), “jewish looks” depend on what group jews have been intermarrying with and though I don’t have side by side pictoral comparisons I do see things in the Putin family that “look” jewish to me, like other Russian jews. I’ll look into these potential other Shelomov/as, but I'll the ones I've seen are just Shlomos.

Sage for being ot in a nothing thread with a misleading title.

After giving it a nights sleep. I perfercted my plan for Trump to play chicken with Kim. During the Cuba crisis, JFK stayed in Washington, making it clear he would go down with the ship if the Russians fired. This time, maybe Kim can hit Washington, maybe not. But there is also the issue of artillery pointing at Seoul. So. If Trump really decides to play chicken with Kim. He should go to Seoul before the bombing starts. He should be, at the very least, within range of the artillery, and not hiding in a bunker either. The best option is if he stays with the american soldiers at the demarcation line.
The beauty of this, other then the Caesar like leadership, is that it really brings the point home to Kim. It also absolves some of the doubt. I think Kim will have a very very easy time believing that he will get fucking nuked by America if he decides to shell their president.
This is the best option. And if it fails, as the president it's almost better to die then to have to explain the failure to the rest of the world.

Trump broke the Tantalus zone. Getting Jews Jerusalem now with the embassy is to much to fast. They want it BY GOD DO THEY WANT IT. but they were playing the long game. trump shoved what they planned into peoples faces and said boom look at this. Kikes will kvetch endlessly about this and shill against trump. This is what the jews want RIGHT. but not now they wanted it once palastine was obliterated. Now they have a uprising more anger resentment towards them. this does not make them stronger as a whole. It made the mudslimes angry at isreal again instead of just focusing on eachother.We get some of that flak to. But I can understand the move played.

He was in the fucking KGB. Does it really surprise you to know his grandfather knew Lenin and Stalin?

It certainly cought my eye. From the pieces I've gathered, it would not surprise me if he were a crypto. I simply can't trust a man of unknown ancestry with family connections to communists. Not to mention his connections to and support of Chabad.

That's about as good as it gets for USSR after all the genocides, kike.

Hey what the fuck happened to a post I was reading? It had an MP4 (the post disappeared when I clicked on it) and described how the Norks would willingly suffer while the South would be a mass graveyard with a humanitarian crisis. There was also something about the people being pissed because the toilet paper in the bunker isn't squeezably soft enough. I'm just suspicious as hell because it disappeared right when I was in the middle of reading it.

fuck off kike

Yeah, they fucked over the U.S. too hard with the third world immigration, so they need a Pearl Harbor, 9/11, Lusitania moment pronto because Bibi doesn't want to learn spanish and get a tan on his bleached skin.

oh REALLY now

Trump, Putin and Xi might be the right men at the right time. They lead countries with huge populations, each far too large to segregate along racial lines without creating complete mayhem.

Perhaps those three leaders are working with a group of Jews trying to cut the head off a monster that might get them all killed if left to run further amok.

That might be the best we can hope for in a timeframe less than generational.

Those leaders need to treat the sexual deviants and traitors with extreme unction. The populace will demand it when they learn of the child abuse.

10/10

There's no need to bring the US down

North Korea is a fucking distraction for not doing a fucking thing about the swamp

Remember that the "USA" does what Jew's tell them to do to , and Nukes won't fly for 2 main reasons
1.Excavating minerals in anti-radiation suits drives cost up
2.Every country on the planet can go Oy Vey-Human Rights

Post the ,"How will SK treat USA if NK attacks"-everybody will blame USA for escalation and civilians would be angry at US zogbots driving through the country like they own the place(to get war supplies to NK),possible anti-usa groups blowing brides and rodes , unit some US soldier shots one of those guys and we have real fun

If William Luther Pierce was still around today, he'd have sent teams to destroy you Kushner kikes who plague this board shilling for ZOG

Will we ever get a successor?

...

you fuckers have to be those thai ladybois jim employs.

I don't agree with you calling him a retard , I mean , a war is not just some "Let's bomb this simulator" , USA best bet to have land transport and quick strike into Chinas ruling power is through North Korea ,and even if they just decide to sit there ,that's one country closer.It's the same game that USA and Russia play ,Don't keep your country so close to my military bases,There is half a country from Europe to Russia now

cont.Now all the USA needs to do , is use their beloved jewish media , to convince the people like Here:
huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korean-prisons-nazi-camps_us_5a2fad6ce4b0461754330e3d
Or false flag something up-North Korea gave them an opportunity to be treat like another "middle east",terrorism and "bad things" (((conflict)))

LOL
I am surprised he didn't call everyone a "tinfoil wearing Conspiracy theorist™"

wake up

Someone doesn't understand the history of every great war and country pre and post Rothschild bank.

YFW you will never ironically joke about sending someone to the gulag to die and they actually end up dying in a gulag because your father in law is Putin.

user, why live?

...

I'm sure that they decided that they had too much power and so had to shake things up a little