Tfw becomingly increasingly convinced that Marxism-Leninism is the only way to get shit done and establish socialism

Never thought I'd end up a tankie.

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Not all marxism-leninists are tankies.

Tankies are specifically supporters of the intervention in Hungary.

It's not though.

Any 20th century ideology is no longer the only way to 'get shit done'.

We need new ideas, not rehashed old ones.

This

Like?

Vanguardism might or might not be valid but M-L is totally discredited.

1/5th of the worlds population still live under socialist states with a marxist-leninist ruling party tho

Fuck you. The M-L ruling party will bring socialism to Nepal. Any day now. Just you wait and see.

Well, this is how Leninism developed in the first place.

So we should sit around and wait?

Literally opportunism.

what's wrong with that?

Opportunism has been proven to be the downfall of revolutionary movements, and what can allow far right coup's to take power.

No, you can also attend socialist meetings and pretend it's affecting anything. :^)

People don't differentiate. All Marxists are called tankies now, even Maoists.

On the other hand, MarkSoc - who also supported Hungary - are not.

Who is "we"?

I have no interest in the ultimate 21st century ideology: combination of Anarcho-Green, SJW and LGBTWTF.

If anything is discredited it's non-ML ideologies.

ftfy

Are you secretly Stalinist?

That's how all ideologies developed. Even Liberalism had French Revolution.

If ideology does not pander to the ruling class, it has to have practical application to propagate.

sounds more like trots tbh

M-Leninists have some good ideas, but they have a bad tendency to go full autistic mystic and use their dialectical magic to disregard everyone who thinks different. this leads to them historically killing everyone, but in the president day it just makes them form ever more obscure reading groups.

There's nothing wrong with killin everyone.

you thought no one would notice that sneaky "only mls are real marxists" comment?
lmao

And all the critics shut the hell up.

No, they are maotists.

flawless analysis

who is this slut?

I see.
Well let's hope it works

That dress is just waiting for an updraft. Or a stift breeze. Or for the wearer to move.

When ever I see whores like this I wonder what will happen to these things in the revolution.

As fringe as it maybe there are anarchists today who call for anti-fa style more like McCarthyite watchlists to be drawn up for Marxists (youtube.com/watch?v=tWi9FvzGKiQ&t=9m54s). In the future I'd expect for this type of rhetoric and tactics to become more common. "Muh tankies" and "sdade gabitalism" is already the go-to on Holla Forums for the vast majority of users who don't know how to counter endemic anti-communism and anti-communist talking points.

i hope you didn't get that idea from its track record

Leftcoms gtfo

Despite it having produced nothing but absolute failures?


Yeah, no, and I've dealt with enough of this bullshit to bother to deal with your shitty arguments about "cold war propaganda" one more time.

marxists.org/subject/japan/tsushima/labor-certificates.htm

People like bookchin and Apo abandoned M-L for the exact opposite reason

damn

I'm sure the fascists who inevitably take up these talking points at their word will surely differentiate between us and your special snowflake brand of leftcom Marxism.

Unless you're like pic related then I'm sure they'll leave you well-enough alone.

None but actual communists use "tankie", though I suppose your definition of fascism might be somewhat "unorthodox", MLs seem to be pretty fond of ethnic supremacist states on the Korean peninsula, or authoritarian dictatorships in the middle east.

I'm happy for you! You've managed to admit you have a problem, you can now proceed onto the next step of recognizing the dusty monuments you adore as the bones of state capitalism.

the track record of turning a feudal shithole into an industrial superpower in 30 years?

Yeah, and how's it working out for them?

the point of socialism isnt establishing industrial superpowers tbh

It's impossible to achieve socialism and meet people's needs without huge industry

Yes, and?

ML is the best way to get there quickly