End of US hegemony

its probably the biggest crime the jews end up commiting
handing the keys to bug level ping pongs

Call me when the Chinese Lobby beats AIPAC in congress.

Kill yourself, subhuman.

pretty much this, you've lied to us for 40 years. China is at least willing to trade with us unlike you who steal our secrets.

For those of you still terrified of Big Bad China coming for the US, even if they make everything in their military plan, they still won’t commission more warship tonnage than the USN from now to 2025.
US warships to be commissioned by 2025:
3x Ford class, 300,000t
3x America class, 134,913t
3x Zumwalt class, 45,000t
14x Burke class, 137,200t
10x Freedom and 10x Independence class, 66,040t
16x Virginia class, 126,400t
3x San Antonio class, 75,900t
And those are just the commissioned major combatants, not including the MSC or support hulls. A total of 885,453 tons of commissioned warship by 2025, all of which are either currently under construction or currently on order. For reference, this is roughly 3/4 of the entire current PLAN commissioned displacement.
PLAN new build ships by 2025:
1x Type 001A, 67,500t
1x Type 002, (no confirmed tonnage; ~80,000
12x 055, ~156,000t
23x 052D, 172,500t
1x 054A, 4,053t
24x 054B, 97,272t
2x 071, 50,000t
4x 072, 160,000t
For a grand total of about 787,325t, and that’s only if they are wildly successful and there are no issues with building the first in class ships of at least 5 brand new first-build designs in the next 9 years. Still almost 100,000t less than the rate at which the USN has been building and commissioning warships for years now. The USN has more supercarrier tonnage (1.1 million tons) commissioned and operational than the tonnage of the entire PLAN. As of May 2015:
Total commissioned tonnage for the USN: over 3,000,000 tons.
Total commissioned tonnage for the PLAN: 992,363 tons.

Carriers number/tonnage
USN: 10x, 1.1 million tons, Nimitz class
PLAN: 1x 67,500 tons, Liaoning

LPA/LHD/LSD numbers/tonnage
USN: 9x, 369,693 tons, 1 America and 8 Wasps
PLAN: 0x, 0 tons, nada

LPD/LSD numbers/tonnage
USN: 22x, 448,214 tons, 8 Whidbey Island, 4 Harpers Ferry, 1 Austin, 9 San Antonio
PLAN: 3x, 60,000 tons, Type 071 (Yuzhao)

LST number/tonnage
USN: 0x, 0 tons, nada
PLAN: 60x, 209,360 tons, various types from 800-7,000 tons

Since the decommissioning of the last Newport-class in 2002, the USN has not used LSTs. It still operates 32 LCUs (381t apiece) as well as the 35 US Army operated LCUs (1,102t apiece), but because the USN has so many LHAs, LHDs, LPDs, and LSDs, LSTs are no longer needed to ferry LCUs to the combat area. Notice that this class of vessel, which the USN considers obsolete in modern amphibious warfare, comprises over 20% of the PLAN fleet. So, no. Even if they’re wildly successful (spoiler: they’re commies, so they won’t be), the Chinese are not even going to be gaining ground with the 2025 plan.

This pretty much

Fair points but have you seen the abysmal rate of readiness of our aircraft? Our own Ships colliding repeatedly ? The fact the Marines are literally cannibalizing parts from f18s in fucking museums just to keep the existing units flying? Or that we're having to bring ships out of mothball status just to meet our numbers ? Or the fact the air force just forced 1500 pilots out of retirement because of massive shortfalls?

Do you have any idea how worn down our forces are after 17 yeara of nonstop missions and sorted…which I might add have been against prehistoric cavemen that we still can't beat.

And frankly this won't be an AK vs ar infantry war which should be obvious. Chinese anti ship missiles have ranges of 800+ miles and with all the islands we've let them build . Anti satellite missiles destroy GPS and communications and that's not even discussing cyber attacks with the horrible state of security we have.

I don't quite get it…these guys have stolen millions of jobs and are wrecking our economy. Yet even the jew bankers can't get a foot in their door no matter how much mandarin their water boy suckerberg sings to the communists in china. Yet pol is meh?

Go look publications from 20 years ago predicting what would happen after 10 years then.

America has never been in a real war since ww2. Fighting a nation is a lot different then fighting insurgents.

Yes, I really understand that. That’s what jews do to a nation.
Fun fact: we’re not actually fighting them. Do you seriously fucking think we lost in Vietnam, too? THE MILITARY HAS BEEN GIVEN STRICT ORDERS NOT TO ACTUALLY FIGHT THEM.

We don't understand the next generation of warfare, what it will be like. Very unlikely that it will be fought using the platforms of previous wars. As you mention, cyberwar (including memetic warfare) lessens the need for expensive physical weapons. It has always been a game of "check" instead of "checkmate" so it remains to be seen who has whom by the balls.

Also, killing the sandniggers is much harder when fighting asymmetrically. If the gloves ever came off we could eliminate the threat by just wiping out Religion of Cuck™. The current "nice" warfare focused on trying not to radicalize the civilians only happens while it is worth it.

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Because they aren't. The Jew is.
So, basically, everything Jews do?
Like with the Jews?

Anyway, yeah, China could well rise as the new hegemon. Shame they're already Jewed.

Speculation by people who had no idea what the state of secret projects is these days is unhelpful or downright malicious. Think: would the jews let their best goyim puppet be bested by a bunch of bugpeople? They wouldn't be feminizing our men if they didn't have some crazy shit up their sleeves. Don't despair, it's impossible to know right now. Just think of what the situation looked like before the Manhattan Project was revealed.

Unfortunately, the Jews have shown countless signs they are seeking out China as their new host after "the US shrivels up and blows away" as Netenyahu put it. This has been in the works for a while too, the Israelis regularly sell US secrets to China, which is really where they get their ability to copy us so much because chink spies are incompetent and easily caught by nature of not being white or a nigger or whatever else they can't blend in like kikes can.

But that doesn't look like a kike

this
the only threat China poses is always to itself and its own people

I think you meant to post a picture of a jew OP, we all make mistakes.

The kikes put us in such a bad position for the past 100 years we might have to actually go to war with China like they wanted. Really depends on whether we unfuck ourselves and unite before they become a unstoppable powerhouse and or whether we truly have space lasers and shit.

Every economist shill you see talking about the Ruble-Yuan taking over when the dollar shits the bed gets the rope. Giving Asia our economic future is a death sentence with everything else we're dealing with socially.

On second thought just arm the japs and restore the emperor. Let the nips put them back in place.

I'll believe this when China really stops appearing to dictate the laws in Western Countries. Stop buying Australian steel. Stop trying to buy up all the prime real estate and farms.

China has power in the West because every marxist pays them lip service for being 'commie' and China bribes western governments
the power of money wont save them from their own inferiority complex

china is a communist nation.
communism was invented by jews.
they are running a kosher operating system and have expendable lives, in fact 50 million young men with no women for them
where do they send the men?
to africa and south america to colonize
where else?
to war
war over what user? the chinks don't do anything…
to war with the philippines and japan and australia and india and the US
tldr the USA will have to fight the chinese by the end of the 2020s

i'd like to know more about their spies

tell an Australian or Canadian that China isn't a threat they'll laugh in your face if you aren't retarded

typo there, you=they

yeah the chinese anchor babies almost colonized canada all over again

No we Aussies laugh in their face too
they're buying large amounts of everything in Aus with their money but it doesnt mean jack shit
ASIO recently uncovered Chinese spy rings in every major university

it only means jack shit if you can get it back

Check'd and heiled - at least the chinese know how to pilot ships. Isn't the US 7th fleet that had 5 reckless driving tickets during last year?

the chinks are hacking the radar in my opinion or the automatic pilots that steer most vessels

I'd like to see them colonise this hell on earth
Australia breaks people

The danger presented by china is less military, and more that they manufacture spare parts for everything from tractors to construction equipment to plumbing hardware, ameriga has a terrible trade deficit that's completely hollowed out all kinds of hardware manufacturing. Until we become meaningfully self-sufficient we are stuck. Rebuilding the burger economy from the ground up is the best defense against china, but we all know how likely that is to happen, if it were going to, trump could have started it already.

they also write most of the hard code on most military chipsets

Trump went to China and Russia to get their blessings to fuck north korea's shit up should it come to that.

they may not want to "colonize" it persay just be able to use Australia to meet their resource needs. After they've trashed their own environment their middle class/rich folk will want to be able to either move on or be able to source non-tainted goods.

America is still ahead of China because we moved on to a post-industrial economy. Let China enslave their population into manufacturing iPads. They dug a hole for themselves by being the "workshop of the world" and the bubble will pop

>the economy that was set up by (((globalists)))

No, they are colonizing Australia now. Chinks are buying all land and property they can afford and moving here as quick as they can. Lots of Sydney and Melbourne suburbs are nothing but chinks

Our debt has to do with Obama-era spending because Dems are retards

Don't forget poos. New Zealand is becoming a fucking mess too, there's no escape.

oh yeah minimum wage mcdonalds and starbucks jobs are totally better than 20 dollar an hour (adjusted for inflation) factory jobs that let you sustain a family and have superior products

China has neither

and your point?

My point is that China isn't a threat. The point of the thread. Yes, manufacturing going to shit and most people living in commuter towns with no work is a problem but it's that's besides the point.

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Gas yourself twice.

but they're helping us with Korea goy….

so you think masses of slaves to produce weapons, masses of slaves to feed into the war machine, the MIRV technology the clintons sold them, and the fact they produce most of the USAs military chips, isn't a threat?

The thing with the chinks is, none of their neighbours like them. Absolutely none except maybe Pakistan and even then the chinks are BTFOing Mudshits and their shitty sand religion. There will be nothing to worry about because the US has power projection to such a degree they're right next door in the forms of Japan and South Korea and more. The chinks don't even have a real navy yet and even if they did they have no close base of operations unless they somehow take over Mexico. There's nothing to worry about. Their manufacturing will die off (it in many ways already is as Jack Ma and said of their eventual service economy) because of automation anyway.

China might not be a threat to America but the slanty eyed bastards are a major threat to Australia

Remember how China happily stepped down from the yuan becoming the new petrodollar, yet US China relations are at an all time high?
Remember that hoard of gold in the Philipines, & the "talks" with the house of Windsor? Remember East India company?
You're either a d&c kike or haven't been paying attention, because China just became the greatest ally the US has.

Australia buys all its military tech from America
there are facilities built in Australia designed to launch nuclear warheads if the UK/USA wanted to reduce China to a radioactive cloud and be in the clear

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life desu.

it's really the whole thing, places like Australia are where the jews are gonna go if they lose their grip on America. Same as the ping pongs.

jews already own Australia

i think you need to gas yourself less, m8

Haven't you heard about the latest tech from China?

They have a new drone which air-drops staircases which move themselves into position in front of key military installations, such as: ships, bases, radar stations, vehicles, armouries and so on.

The american can't surmount the steps, becomes breathless and can not use the weaponary or buildings.
It is especially effective against motorised scooters.

Look, if you don't want to gas yourself, I'd be happy to gas you for you.

it's not their full cancer base of operations tho. It's their chew toy.

The jews have only been in america from 1900. Check the immigration charts. It was a full scale parasitical infestation.
Before that they were in Russia/Poland.
After they bleed a place dry, they move onto the next host.

Maybe the answer is to anticipate where they are moving to, and set a trap.
EMP every flight/boat going in, watch them all drown in the ocean like the cockroaches they are.

stop man, your braincells are begging you.

Trump dined at the Emperor's table at the forbidden city - Nobody has eaten at that table since (((Mao))) took power - and even he was barred from conducting business in the imperial palace.
To boot, Trump was "given his name", as in, TRUMP was wtitten into the imperial record -the greatest honor in Chinese culture. In 5,000 years only 436 family names have made it into the record, Trump is (citation needed) the first foreigner.
This just reversed the trade deficit. The USD will be the currency of oil & industry, the yuan will be the gold standard, not to mention mended centuries of bad blood - bad blood seeded by - the Rothschild family.

You seem to be laboring under an incredible misunderstanding in which I can't do just that. Sound money and stiff tariffs would do 80% of the job up front, and anyone who gets in our way should just disappear.

No thanks, Problem-Reaction-Solution.

USA is not anymore the most tech advanced power around. Or, if you prefer, the competitors followed different paths of the tech tree. Now they can at a minimum hack radars and at a maximum turn off the whole ship (Black Sea 2015 - same Arleigh Burke class of all the supposed hacked ships - USS Ross was targeted by SU-24 and disabled, after that the Su-24 buzzed the ship ten times Maverick style - people that was on board is rumored to have resigned after that - I suppose Holla Forums is well aware of the situation).

Lmfao go get ran over by a bus Zang

! wasn't supporting buying cheap shit, I was saying what would happen if China declared war. The current US doesn't give a shit about domestic manufacturing, but also doesn't give a shit about where it comes from. I support domestic manufacturing, but the (((economists))) would rather switch to India.

Ok go to war with the east, we'll watch.

Do you really think merchant vessels would be safe in the Pacific if there's a war between the US and china? It would be easy to make that passage uninsurable.

I never suggested that. But you shouldn't assume overmuch goodwill on the part of china, they're bleeding us for everything we've got and laying down generational stakes in western nations and demanding equal citizenship. We must be prepared to do widespread nationalizations, and to back them up with the threat of force.

you seem to think that acting pretentiously gives your stance a semblance of validity. might i suggest actually working to deserve that arrogant posturing of yours?

If the bus is driven by a US Navy captain I'll be pretty safe.

Ugh, Chinese are already obnoxiously retardedly full of themselves, the yuan being the gold standard will only inflate their massive yet paper thin egos

"YUAN IS GOL STANDA, YUAN IS THA BEEST"

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Oy vey!

Through the Suez, then to the Atlantic. Distance isn't even that far. Or through the Canal if you really need to get to the West Coast.

Chinks are the the most nationalistic people on earth. They've been waging financial war on the west at their government's behest - low interest, even interest free loans, to buy up western nations. It's all been about revenge, they had their national reserves of gold & silver utterly pilfered, then to add insult to injury, their own money was used against them to enslave them under communism. Do you really think one of the smartest peoples on earth, with the oldest contiguous culture wanted to be chained to desks making Nikes for 20c an hour..? They're actually pretty fucked off about it.
An amazing job of repairing that has been done imho, we don't need all the 105 iq average types killing each other off, there's niggers & arabs to worry about. Plus, if China gets a stack of money, where are they gonna spend it yo? It's not like we lost, the kikes had the shit buried in a vault anyway. It's an elegant solution. I honestly think the reason we haven't heard about Jacob Rothskike, is the chinks wanted him (you think WE have gripe with the kikes, dear god…)

You have ghastly diction and rhetoric.

when?
in those wars they started?
Britain bankrupted the global silver trade to meet Chinese demand for shekels in the last century

(((Britain))) was the East India Company fam. The kikes did it. Plus the opium wars, Rothschild all over. Blaming Britain for raping China is like blaming Joe the Texan bricklayer for the slave trade.

It has been a long day..

And that's the thing. They were the most powerful economy in all the world for nearly all of recorded history to the point everyone in the world wanted to trade with them even more now we sent countless emissaries and shit Rome was bathing and draining their treasures for their silk thousands of years ago and even with all the ridiculous wealth they had and we still BTFO them. They will never be a threat. The only gooks that can be a treat to the west are the Japanese and Vietnamese and they hate the Chinese even more than we do.

Posting in a (((Kremlin))) D&C thread.

Pic related it's you

They do that anyway despite only a single percent of whites owning slaves which is like blaming the actions of billionaires on Jane the Texan bricklayer's poor wife, the biggest slave owners proportionally were Jews and they owned virtually all the slave ships and markets (which were closed only on Jewish holidays, surprise surprise). Whites all get shit on because of what happened centuries ago when nobody alive today was ever a slave and owning a slave back then was like owning a fucking lamborghini no way the average broke joe in the 19th century could ever hope to dream of owning one. But the point stands, you know how fucked modern society is. No sense, no logic, no rationality, the leftists right now are literally shilling against facts saying it's time to stop using them, everything is fubar. At this point, the chinks probably deserve to win because we've screwed ourselves into a hole we can't possibly climb out of. Maybe it's just Destiny, they were the only race that could ever possibly compete with us but I wish we lost to the Japanese 70 something years ago instead of the fucking cheating lying chinks.

We didn't lose. We've hit an agreeable empasse. It's good, & it'll get better, for everyone involved. I forsee joint operations in Africa, that'll give us a whole continent to practice sharing.

Everyone ignoring that Trump's oil deal (pertro dollars) with China just shut down BRICS. Prepare for Russian shills

Considering their late entry into WWII, one could argue that the USA have not 'won' a war, in which they were involved from the beginning, since the conflict vs. Spain.

Don't worry, Australia will prove surprisingly important in the conflict to come.

I'd rather have Chinks conquer and make their pollution-hives all over the planet over giving it to niggers and kikes.

When did Western civilization descend to 'vote for the best people to rule over me'?

Pretty much. The drug epidemic in the US and EU is the Opium War 2.0.
The bleeding of money for useless wars is the robbing through unequal treaties.
And they've pretty much bought off all the politicians, starting with Hillary.

But I wouldn't agree with
You aren't the smartest if anyone with the basic knowledge of Chinese history of the 19.-20. century can see their strategy.
As with everything the Chinks do they have to copy shit to even try to challenge their opponents. No creativity whatsoever. As is expected from a rigid society/culture.
All you have to do is elect a capable man with some imagination and you get Chinks paying dearly for their plan.
Their WHOLE economy is geared for financial war against the West while assuming that the West is too corrupt and incapable of fighting back to do anything.
This is straight up Yamamoto Battle of Midway type of sperg planning. No imagination whatsoever with pure malice and hatred in mind.
IF you want to see how scared they are just listen to the Chink head ant boasting at their 19th commie get together.

Check'd
Meme responsibly.

You touch on a vital fact: WE gave them their advantage economically; and we can take it away. All that is needed is a competent leader who does not have his head shoved up anyone else's butt.

To be fair, BRICS is a fucking joke to begin with.

With Brazil, you have the single most mongrelized nation on the fucking planet ridden with corruption, crime, and violence it is worse than all the war zones and total murders in the fucking world put together with how apocalyptic it is in its political and social stability. They are a window into what the dysgenic and dystopic world could be if it isn't prevented immediately.

With Russia, you have a country that is the largest in the world and heavily resource rich sure but with competition from the Saudis and embargoes constantly fucking them up, poor industry because they cannot compete with the Chinese or Germans, not to mention political stability. They literally ask "if not Putin, then who?" over there. Don't get me started on their internal issues like the Chechens either. The future for Russians seems cold and bleak as their climate and people's attitude unless they achieve some kind of Hitler level epiphany and Renaissance with massive state and social reform along with strong pride and morale boost from nationalism and the like or sell all their daughters to the Chinese. They will continue to suffer from the Putin regime otherwise.

With India, you have a literal shithole whose Northern Indians are the only thing truly holding that shithole together. They are a makeshift invented nation the British willy-nilly knickers sewn together of a bunch of states in South Asia each with their own languages and cultures in their colonial fuck ups, all constantly on the edge of balkanization like what happened with Pakistan and Nepal.

And then there's South Africa. Need I say more? Similar to India, only the whites (and Chinese) are holding them up but mostly the whites alone and they're already done for and everyone fucking knows it. They are also a dystopic window into the near future if something is not done immediately.

I'm not sure how anyone could have taken them seriously.

Welcome to Commie/Eastern mind 101. Everything has to planned to precision to actually work. Why was Operation Barbarrosa so successful at the start? Because Stalin didn't PLAN for Hitler to start a war a month before he wanted to start.
Once the industry comes back to the US they'll be a shriveled husk that will have no other job but to implode.
And the industry that won't be coming back will go to India if you noticed how friendly Trump got with Modi.
The Chinks know that there is a big beautiful wall being erected around their country (as a result of the current Asian visit) and the jobs taken out as a consequence of them trying to put a Commie hag on the presidency and nuke it out with Russia.
They are paying alright. You'll see China becoming a steaming pile of rubble in the near future as is tradition.

That's just modern western politics in a nutshell, "vote for the lesser of two evils".

At that time I will catch the next plane and joyfully piss on the ashes, while guarding the constitution of my urine; lest it be copied and replicated for subversive actions in the West.

the US measures victory by one simple thing: kill count

Because that would be Israel. China wants to be the peer and rival of the United States, but no one will ever be a true enemy in the fullest sense of the word like Israel.

We should be the third way.

and its own spin

China! I think that I am actually starting to admire them. I hope their fortunes are shaped by peace.

kys commie

You forget one very important thing, the thing we've been trying to prevent for 200 years with them, and that is them trading with themselves. That itself is all they need to be the largest economy on the face of this planet and that's how they've mostly managed for so long. We broke that back then and made them economically dependent on us so they cannot fuck us. And the whole India strategy is something we've already tried, you underestimate how incompetent Indians are. Outside the light skinned Brahmin caste [thanks to their millennias of eugenics], they are almost nigger level in intellect and IQ. It's a sad state of affairs, they are, while dumb, at mostly peaceful, unlike blacks who are dumb and violent, a civilization wrecking recipe. By the way, never trust an Indian coder. Awful, awful low level spaghetti code.

This should be one of the core rules for any white person. They are deceitful and their culture does not discern between good and evil in the same way we do.

By that logic, the National Socialists won the war. Legendary Kill:Death ratio they had.

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Don't tell me… it was all part of 1488D chess which will culminate in a surprise reemerging of Nazis, who not only survived the war but somehow discovered the fountain of youth and were waiting for the right time to return?

not quite

fake map of "antarctica" - its not a continent, its an ice shelf around the perimiter of a very flat earth. UN logo is correct map, does not include "antarctica"

Don't forget all the fiat FRNs they buy with their own fiat notes. Isn't it great the yellow commies can buy American?

This.

Mao Zedong's great gift to the western world was his one-child policy. As bad as our demographic problems are, the Chinese are worse. The birth-rate in China has been less than one for more than forty years. And to make matters even worse, feminism is on the rise in China which is going to drag their birth-rate down even further.

The idea that China will be the world's largest superpower during this century is a fantasy.

The only threat the Chinese pose to us is through colonisation.

The one-child policy is no longer imposed.

Nothing says "worthy adversary" as much as an aircraft carrier with a "Made in China" stamp on the starboard side and the USSR flag under 2 coats of paint

It's no longer imposed but the damage has already been done.

Also, although the policy ended a couple of years ago, their birth-rate still hasn't recovered.

I hope so, user. I hope this entire modern world was all apart of their plan just so they can fly in on their UFO to say "I told you so!". I've had enough, they were right. Never did I think in all my years that once day I would be forced to admit the fucking Nazis were right but the more I read Hitler and their writings, the more I'm convinced they had the ability to peer into the future. Weimar was a Hell they've lived through after all. Only thing left is sick degeneracy such as pedophilia normalization, I know it will take place, I know it will happen. Everything so far these past couple years has shown the slippery slope isn't a fallacy. Barely a few years ago leftists including myself thought you were all crackpots saying it would be pushed and promoted, that it was a slippery slope fallacy just because we supported gay marriage, it was just universally regarded as a mental illness and I see that even today. Even if you're a sissy boy, you're still a boy. You don't magically change chromosomes and artificial mutilation further proves there's no such thing. Look where we are now, to the point even little kids who haven't hit puberty are being mutilated on put on hormones, they aren't even old enough to consent, the same exactly arguments as against pedophilia but it already happened so I know pedophilia will happen too, just like in Weimar. Soon we'll see children prostituting themselves in the streets and degeneracy like never before, the Sodom of the 21st century only this time, I'm not sure there will be enough rational people left to stop it and call for a new Nazi to save them all.

Let's hope the damage is irreversible.

Implying that homosexuality, tranny nonsense and the like are less degenerate than what the media refer to as 'pedophilia'?

I remember seeing an FBI raid on the news and then realizing virtually every agent was a chink.

That's what happens without quality control. If you buy into the 'everyone is equal' lie, it can and will be used against you and your people.

You are perfectly on the mark - now, supposing to be Xi and knowing your window to restore the Dragon Empire is closing quickly what would you do?

Not sure but he better do it soon.

Take your commie boot licking to >>>Holla Forums torshit.
Indians are a steaming pile of shit with innocent flies all over it but Chinks are a steaming pile of a more well shaped red smelling shit with bloodgnats that spread their disease all over. Never forget that they are Commies. NEVER.
Give Indians that are a little more used to the English civ the jobs that no Westerner would not do and thus not import them into the West.
They at least aren't vengeful little pricks for the shit the brits did and will work with the West if it means the prosperity of all.
The ancient Vedic culture still resonates in the leaders even though the lower classes a scum. The Chinks are literally the Jews of asia and probably the reason why (((they))) are flocking there in droves and getting chink wifes.

ITT delusional americans who cannot get over the fact that china is the new world superpower

This post is more true than Amerifats give it credit for. The American military is getting worse and worse, and arrogant cuckservative trash think its still good and no one can compete with it. All the chinks have to do is wait America out. Wait for the continual Naval fuck ups that are happening. Wait for PC tards to completely destroy the military. Wait for internal strife caused by leftists and the jew. You can't win a war when your tools and culture are fucked in 30 years time.

Also the idea that Chinese would confront the US head on the at the moment is hilarious. Again, fucking tard-tier analysis from fat red team larper militia types that think America is invincible and shouldn't listen to any criticisms. Look at the recent stuff in Rhodesia. That coup was run by the Chinese behind the scenes so that they can get access to African resources. That's the type of jew tier hand rubbing the chicoms are up to. It looks like they've evolved. Then look at One Belt, One Road. It's Chinese-led globalism focusing on the infrastructure and global logistics. Or the lawfare aspect that a lot of legal scholars are noticing coming from China (a lot of economic and sea law is being manipulated by the Chinese). The Chinese are learning and adapting, and the American fag-tier cuck right think that if you point this out that you're a shill or a moron. It's fucking sad seeing members of the west underestimate their enemies. The American right wing are sometimes more of an enemy to rightists everywhere than the jew and the left. The moment the west collapses, and the chinks take the mantle of global leaders you'll know the jew will join forces with them, which means any nascent far right movement that arises from the ashes will be squashed in its infancy.

I'm honestly chuckling at the bullshit being posted ITT. Between the Chink shills going full "not the Chinese, not the Chinese" and the hubristic burgers who, as always, haven't got a clue of what's going on and think they're invincible because muh Navy…

One of the few intelligent posts and yes, the BRICS are a complete joke, invented by some "analyst" at Goldman Sachs I might add.

attention to is the context for this.
Australia's main role in western hegemony is as a naval base to secure shipping routes along the Atlantic and through the Pacific. Additionally, the US needs Australia like it needs Guam, Japan and formerly, the Philippines, which is to act as an intelligence and military base network in the Asian region. The main difference is that Australia's been fed naval technology from both Britain and then the US since its creation and has spent a lot of time on training elite troops because Australia has fuck-all population comparatively.
The Chinese most certainly know this, and have been working at gaining control of Australia's government for quite some time, as evidenced by the bumbling fuckups that have been our recent naval purchases and the (((investments))) into local production which have gone absolutely fucking nowhere and wasted a lot of money.
tl;dr a smart America won't let Australia fall to the chinks, as they would lose key shipping routes and strategic control points in Asia

excuse me?
I AM THE ETERNAL ANGLO
just try and colonise Hong Kong I dare you
I'll have half your poopulation addicted to meth and producing cheap porcelain tea cups in sweat shop factories so fast you'll think you've just endured another cultural revolution

Why is there always one of these niggers

No they fucking wont. The reason why is communism. They keep doing things that pervent progress and just copy others. Im sure people have already told you why you are wrong countless times and there are more that will do it after my post. I will say though that why the fuck are you afraid of a country that cant even see their fucking sky half the god damn time in their cities?

Even generously assuming the Chinese economy isn't a house of cards and the military isn't a laughable third rate collection of hot air, the best China would become would be a regional hegemon. The idea that China would rise to become the "new world superpower" is ludicrous considering that the very rise of China would signal in the death of the system of a unipolar global superpower and usher in an era of multipolarity and an emphasis on regional hegemony. And this idea is coming from academics far less critical of China than they ought to be.

Are you directing us away from the focus on the kikes and traitors?

Oh so these objects are some how immune to explosives or are the drones invincible? You think that a military would just let someone drop fucking stairs and let them set themselves up? Only retards would allow that shit to happen.

Also

Great fucking job. Instead of god damn explosives that could of sunk and destroyed installations they instead opted for a high tech ladder. That is why I do not take the chinese seriously. Get the fuck out with that shit.

And that's only because our societies are too emasculated to allow this, they are only supporting their ethnic interests, user, unlike kikes that are spite driven demon-worshipping parasites. If I was a chink ant-person I'd do the same.

Not commie

Holy shit, Holla Forums shows its true colours with this thread – a complete lack of understanding of international and domestic politics and military affairs.

The Chinese won't have to go to war with the US to overtake them. The West's increasing satiation and inability to outcompete the Chinks at our own game is what will lead the US to become steadily more irrelevant in the coming 50 years.

China is attempting to colonise the world
only the West is tolerating their bullshit
Africa and Central Asia are demanding money the chinks cant pay
plus the Africans are starting to realise the chinks are much worse than anything the white man did

Though partially true it's still a gross exaggeration and fear mongering so that Lockheeb and Raytheon can sell more overpriced shit to zogbots.

USA military is the functional equivalent of
They could literally curb stomp everyone all at once. It's not being run to win though at the moment.

America doesnt want to win these wars
it wants to continue them for profit

Do you guys just patrol this board just for the opportunity to lead at the first picture of Antarctica you see. OK, if you are going to post that shit here, I want a detailed map of the Earth showing exactly where the sun sets and rises, and a line showing it's journey across the globe. To be absolutely clear, I want a map of the Earth that has a line that shows where the sun is directly above the surface. Pic related is the same thing for a globe Earth during the equinox.

Let's just stop to think for a moment, and realise that if China's population stagnates, that means that the most populous nation will be:
*shiver* India.

I really hope you are being sarcastic.

If China had awaken itself without committing ethnic suicide by marxism we would have this conversation back in the late 60s or early 70s.

Imagine something like a 1 billion people Japan.

but wouldnt happen because the Japanese arent a race of cut corners conmen

The world is already sick of USA due to their warmongering with a special thank to the kikes that scapegoated the Americans so the world can harm them instead of the kikes. China will be next to be scapegoat by the kikes. Chinks should be afraid of the jews. HEY CHINKS BE AFRAID OF THE JEWS. YOUR COUNTRY WILL BECOME NEW USA SO EMBRACE YOUR FATE UNDER THE KIKE'S DIRTY FINGERS.

This is a ridiculous fantasy made by the same idiots who said the Chinese economy would surpass the US by now. It is not going to happen that way, at worst it would become a multi-polar world. If America fails, it would because we went the way of South Africa and Brazil, demographically doomed and demographics are destiny.

I know right?

China is not and has never been a liberal country. Therefore jews will never be able to subvert it like they could the US, a country founded on liberalism and freemasonry.

I actually disagree, they aren't like the Japs or the West. The Japs immediately adopted guns when they learned about them, admittedly they were small carbine sized guns that used serpentine rather than corned powder because they had shit armor while Europeans used heavy muskets with corned powder to punch through the munitions plate that half the soldiers were wearing by that time, but still no other culture whether shitskins, saracens, or chinks did that properly.

The Chinks inflate their mean IQ score up to 100 on the surveys by only submitting tests from pre-selected urban populations or students in high-end schools. Much of their population isn't even really Han, they just claim they are. In reality they are a mess of smaller related tribes and down south there are actual shtiskins.

A far cry from the 103 mean for Europeans and the 104 mean for Japs.

This sounds like FDR's fantasies and all the talk about "who lost China". The chinks are notorious fuckups, they cannot become a 1 billion+ strong Japan because they are genetically inferior with the lowest IQs among the East Asians mixed with their jew-nigger character. It's so bad there that the most popular sport in chinkland is apehoop and so jew they poison their babies to death with toxic milk just for a couple for shekels even jews aren't evil as that to their own in their quest for greed. They are niggers, they are jews, the chinks are niggerjews. They deserve death. I hope we arm the Japanese with super nukes and hyper biochemweapons just so they can wipe out niggers and chinks from the goddamned planet. They are a nigger and jew level threat to humanity.

Aussie here, the only way chinese could actually enforce their property claim is with nukes. they could not invade us. That is not the issue at hand. It is the demographic replacement, infiltration of institutions, and the control of our markets that is the issue and if something is not done soon in the next 5-10 years it will be too late. I doubt that the Chinese will actually overcome the black nobility (old jew blood that are higher up than the rothchilds) as they actually own Australia as a LLC

The higher ups from China are running from China because it's due for another periodic collapse that is endemic to the place. They need to squirrel away their wealth and assets.

not an ally to america, it is a takeover by the black nobility (windsor being one of the families). PRC was one of the last holdouts.

As a yuropoor I am more concerned about (((typical tricks))). I can respect the Chinese as the most prominent subhumans with one the highest median IQs and the oldest most influential semblance of civilization non-White humanoids have ever done and I can acknowledge that Murkans are by far the mightiest ethnos humanity has known but that in contrast to China they are too young, too idealistic and too prideful to acknowledge that their narcissism will very soon will bring their downfall. My nation accounted for some of the most expansive, most sophisticated and certainly most long lived and most influential EmpireS in the world and still we were reduced to the second biggest butt of all jokes of the White race after Argentina for much lesser hubris than the Americans'.

Better China than Jews, dog-killing be damned.

The chinese double count both imports and exports when calculating their GDP. Not that GDP actually measures national power, rather disposable GDP does. That is the money you can use to make weapons, raise armies, and buy influence.

Without niggers and spics the US would have a 1.2 trillion dollar budget surplus every year. Now think what it would be like without leftists and kikes. If the parasites were shaken off nobody could withstand that juggernaut. The other powers would be completely dependent upon nuclear deterrent and there would be effectively no economic or political means to influence such a nation. They could effectively crush all of SA, Africa, and most of South Asia and nobody could lift a finger to stop it short of threatening a nuclear exchange.

Immigration Impact Meta-Analysis:
dspace.ubvu.vu.nl/bitstream/handle/1871/9737/04134.pdf?sequence=1

Taxes paid by brackets:
ctj.org/pdf/taxday2014.pdf

Racial groups by income bracket:
census.gov/hhes/www/cpstables/032014/hhinc/hinc05R.xls

Medicaid Enrollment by race, projected from these numbers:
ccwdata.org/web/guest/medicaid-charts#a2_eligibility_race_2010

Welfare use by race:
statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

Medicare Enrollment:
kff.org/report-section/income-and-assets-of-medicare-beneficiaries-2014-2030-tables/

Social Security Enrollment by race in 2014:
books.google.com/books?id=72kMCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA3324&lpg=PA3324&dq=Social security beneficiaries 2014 by race black hispanic white&source=bl&ots=IMvvS1GlQM&sig=Ry6RF3ZFXZ2lrIirsA2RClYSRE8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjX6uzqydDMAhVr5oMKHX_JBaQ4ChDoAQg4MAQ#v=onepage&q=Social security beneficiaries 2014 by race black hispanic white&f=false

Total US Government Spending at all levels 2014
usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2014USbt_17bs2n#usgs302

Total US Government Revenue of all types and at all levels 2014
usgovernmentrevenue.com/piechart_2014_US_total

>As a yuropoor I am more concerned about (((typical tricks))).
I'm concerned about all enemies and speaking about (((typical tricks))), look at what the chinks are doing in Australia for example. You wouldn't know a difference between jews and chinks.

protip: Yes.

Chinks are just benign opportunistic parasites benefiting by our societies' immunodeficiency due to terminal (((AIDS))). The actual cause of death will be the metastatic cancer Religion of Cuck™ is.

Are you sure you are fatterican and not a chink trolling?

Then explain this picture? China fate to be scapegoat for the kikes is already planned. Kikes have been doing this for thousands years.

Jews have infiltrated for a long time. Who do you think was behind the opium trade? Hint, they had big noses.

Everything is going to kill the west, the kikes that have brought this are caught up in their ridiculous revenge fantasies while ignoring they were the first to persecute others by their own admission in their own texts. If you want a last laugh, redpill the chinks on the fact the Jews were responsible for the Opium Wars and numerous other events that ruined and destroyed hundreds of millions of their lives. At least be happy knowing without us the kikes won't have a future either, I want to take them, the niggers, and the mudslimes with us. Maybe these mongoloids finally evolve after we're gone, I know the japs can do it at least.

Slanted eyes for a start. It's always a reassurance that all normalfags, minus the most brainwashed SJW idiots, can readily tell the difference between a huWite goy and a yellow-bellied panfaced-midget.

Dare I say that chinks' parasitism might even be beneficial since it redpills plebeians over the issue of foreign ethnic nepotism in our lands, like the leftwing retards in my country constantly bitching about the Chinese and MUH RUSSIANS (lol) takeover of the local economy (((conveniently ignoring))) that the majority of the countries' infrastructure and industry have been wholly (((privatized))) by (((German))), (((Middle Eastern))) and (((multi-national))) interests within the last couple of decades.

Right now we the USA still has the edge on China, but it is never good to underestimate your opponent. If the Jews stay in power, we are done for either way, our industry will continue to decay, our military will be rendered innefective with trannies and women being allowed in, and our population being replaced by retarted shitskins.

But if we can retake the US we would have to basically recreate our manufacturing industry because so much of it has been outsourced into China. If you include any of the potential allies in Western Europe, Russia, or Japan, then we don't have to worry about anything for the foreseeable future.

Though things can change rapidly, like under Meiji he transformed Japan from your average incompetent 3rd world nation into a world power on par with some of the Europeans within a few decades and recently China transformed from a total shithole under Mao to a world power 2nd only to the USA today in only a few decades, though they haven't been progressing as quickly lately. It's not impossible that China could make another leap like that, but the odds of that are quite unlikely.

We'll more like 1300 years as the the modern kikes as a race really hadn't developed until that time.

Your post shows how you haven't got a clue about how kikes achieve their goals (nor what their goals are it seems, which is even worse). There's a reason no country has ever been as subverted as America to the point of Americans LOVING their jewish subversion.

Read this.

So all slanted eyes are chinks. Interesting. Kikes otoh are immediately recognizable, even for normalfags.

Parasitism is never beneficial.

and China does not fit the necessary criterias for it, I might add.

*leap

Kikes are the leading cause of our downfall but they cannot threaten our very existence. In the end the few remaining Whites will stick together and pull themselves out of the shit against impossible odds while the spineless kvetching parasites will drown under the consequences of their own spite hopelessly trying to drag us down with them, but they won't be able to because what would remain of us will be strong while they will still be the inbred pseudointellectual scheming weaklings they always were. It's interesting that China coincidentally serves as a point of reference of what constitutes an immediate threat for our survival, which is the turks, that though more stupid and not particularly more brave or strong than their Khazar relatives, they breed like cockroaches and are prone to piranha-tier feeding frenzies, China's Tocharians and post-Alexandrine Bactrians were among the most sophisticated Aryan societies and they were wholesomely consumed and reduced into a mockery of their former selves, calling themselves Uyghuroaches, by ravaging raping hordes of Religion of Cuck™ic mongoloids after millenia of relatively peaceful coexistence with Sinoid ant-people..

sage

False dichotomy. It's both (and a few others as well).

A couple points here because I listen to the same bullshit points over and over again.

The US doesn't lack in manufacturing capacity, if you measure Chinese industrial production using the same criteria the US does(ie not counting a mechanics and construction as "industrial" like they do in chink land) then the US already has 2.7 times the total industrial output of China. The trade imbalance comes from the fact that we export components and import finished products, we ship out integrated circuits and plastic pellets and import laptops. This could be solved by the same 70% tarffis the US always had prior to the 1930s when kikes started to dismantle them. And even more that that we know that Chinks and nobody else engages in "free trade" and it is just a leftist/kike plot to fuck with US industry specifically steel and textiles that employed white men. Hell the kikes took over and liquidated US Steel in the 60s despite it being a huge money maker.

As for the military, there are essentially two armies now. One is the actual combat forces which is more white than ever. In the 70s the combat forces were only 75% white in an 80% white country. Now in 65% white country we have combat forces that are 97% white. This happened for a number of reasons. The support and logistics corps essentially became a gibs program for women and trash, so the combat forces actually have their own logistics infrastructure now, doing a job that the actual forces responsible for logistics no longer do. We are paying shitksins and women, also and men with no dicks, to sit around and count potatoes as they rot. The Navy has similar problems, the onshore personnel is full of darkies and cunts and the few that make it onto the shits are stuffed in a broom closet. Is this a massive drain on military resources? Absolutely, but they don't actually inhibit combat effectiveness as they never encounter combat unless their tin shack in a green zone is bombed when some dumb bitch though Akmed was "one of the nice ones". Beyond niggers and women seeking gibs they also cannot pass the physics or the map tests required for even the most shit of basic infantry. So that is a bar to entry that even Obongo couldn't get them past.

Thats wrong though. The kikes you are kvetching about are middle mangagement. You are supposed to find them and pogrom them. Nothing pleases the Black nobility when you scapegoat their lesser kin. Make no mistake about it, unless something is done the uber kikes will exterminate us.

Better to get chickenpox as a child than as an old man.

Kikes like Maher have chinky slanted eyes and he's not the only one either. It's hopeless unless there's a final solution.

We're talking about economic parasitism.

your immune system doesn't work if you have (((aids)))

Kangs n' shiet?

You don't hang around in rural America much do ya? Because kikes aren't well liked in any place I've ever visited and are despised where I live, Western PA.

It's not all that different in principle.

I know, I've specifically said that in my first or second post.

Does rural America constitute the majority of America? No it doesn't and what you say isn't true either. The bible thumpers fe. live in rural America and love kikes and israel.

It is. Economic parasitism is killing western economies. Once you're dead you're dead, you cant recover nor immunize yourself.

Also, friendly reminder that kikes are the most well liked religious group in America.

That won't come as a surprise to anyone with a clue about American society and history.

Do you have any ideas on how powerful American industry could be again if it wasn't being sabotaged and allowed to function as it did before the Jews started manipulating things?

"Bible thumpers" are some of the last people defending tradition in America. They are some of the only people that are still taking a stand against sexual degeneracy, abortion and porn. They are some of the only ones defending traditional family and gender roles.

True but they love kikes and israel and never want to understand the link between jews and degeneracy, precisely because they love them.

Rural America constitutes the majority of white Americans, which are the only Americans. The fact that retarded cucks who can't work for a living get in with the kikes in the GOP means nothing. Also you're talking about a specific type of retarded Evangelical who want the kikes in Israel to fulfill their heretical interpretation of prophecy and bring about the End Times. Many of them don't actually like jews as the jews must be exterminated, in Judea, to usher in the end of the world.

Dubs confirm they must all be drowned

see my other post

It is a little unfair to compare admittedly because if the US did return to what it was we'd be comparing it to an England and Continental Europe gutted more deeply by leftist horseshit than we are now. That said a if Imperial Europe returned they wouldn't care about exterminating shitskins this time.

Only a few of them genuinely like them, because they are basically liberal faggots but pretend the bible matters to them rather than progressive doctrine. Much like the old Puritans and the busy body women in England in the 1800s whose descendants are all atheist faggots now.

Wesern PA is extremely religious but also has essentially no bible thumpers as the people are taciturn and dower. You can't really preach wildly to those sort of people as they are so stoic they cannot be moved to emotions besides hate and they have so few sins that they are very hard to shame.

Thanks user. Lately I've been thinking a lot about how great our societies would be with our modern technology but no Tyrones, Ahmeds, or Moishes.

No, whites consitute the majority of rural America, not the majority of white Americans.

I know about those end time retards. The fact remains that bible thumpers of whichever variety love kikes and israel and it's laughable to try to deny it.

Pastor Anderson is one of very few exceptions and yet he himself fulfills jewish goals as well by okaying interracial marriages.

LOL.

Nice total lack of actual statistics brow.

But lets talk about the Department of Transportation statistics that the University of Virginia use to compile that map, firstly it based on mailing address and doesn't place dots in areas were the density is "to low" and would "muddle the picture". And lets not forget that the DoT themselves intentionally lump towns like day Dubois PA into "urban zones" along transportation corridors to other small towns or larger cities in order to claim that the US is "urbanizing" despite the average size of townships inhabited(especially by whites) is decreasing and has been for some time. Remember that in the US Dubois with its 4,000 people spread out in old century old housing tracks and mansions is a city and since 1995 is considered "urban". Would you consider said town "urban" or rural?

Not to be rude, but this is a thread about China.
Make a thread and debate about american demographic. But don't derail this one.

Do you think the niggers are ever going to do anything about it? I know some of the higher IQ ones are actually asking for the white man to come back.
However I would love if they just had a collective chimpout at took out all those ricekikes and their operations with them. We know they have the destructive potential.

Depends on which country and which clade of blacks your talking about. Places like Ghana are okay, but Zimbabwe just had a coup lel

Fair enough man. Let me just make one last comment.

That's literally the most accurate statistic of the kind you could find as it theoretically references every single person living in America.

That depends entirely on the SETTING of the town not the size of the town. Is it in the middle of nowhere or is it a suburb of a large city etc.

End of off topic for me.

Fucking kill yourself shill.

Oh yeah Mutumbo Mugabe just got fucked, I forgot. I suppose im just waiting for the bantuniggers to flip the fuck out once they realise how much they are being fucked.

Since China is the subject here, WHY do you think Hollywood came to be established in AMERICA rather than in China you stupid fuck??

Considering the timefram, wasn't china literally a communist shithole with about as much freedom of expression as best Korea has now? What exactly could the kikes have done in that context that would not have worked 1000 times better in the US?

All correct. Are you starting to get it or do I have to spell it out for you?

come on dude

No need user, but thanks anyway. Bottom line for me is that kikes must be gassed in whatever form or place they appear.

that is kinda how I see it going but who knows
maybe I am still overestimating niggers too much

Everything in China is a lie.

pfffffft bantus are gud fo nuffins and ungrateful to boot. Without an educated class of subversives advocating for them they get the boot, and hard.

He means black as in evil.

Holy fucking hell Mao who raised you from the dead.

what do the stars in the chinese flag stand for?

If they are our enemy, Donald Trump wouldn't even go there on his worldwide trip. Now gas yourself kike
>>>/gaschamber/

It wont matter when we kill all nonwhites.

FUCK YOU MODS for saging this thread
even if the OP was pretty shit the discussion in this thread is superb
oh wait i forgot you kikes hate any proper discussion that isnt >le mccain's broken leg shoe