Testosterone

Hey Guys!
This shall be a thread about Testosterone. Everything you know about it and Especially how to increase it (preferably through natural methods).
Please give tips on how to increase it and what to avoid to not decrease it and increase estrogen…
Lets Go!

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I am especially interested in tips concerning diet…

Bump for relevant to my interests

Proper sleep and proper herbs/diet are a good start. ashwagandha Is an herb id start with. Keto is a great way to reduce adipose tissue which causes estrogen

Lift weights and don't be fat. It's a good topic, but not Holla Forums related. Try /fit/

how is it not Holla Forums related??
How can we convince people of our opinions and maybe fight a race war if we are low-T fags?

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I can see where you’re coming from, But considering the tendency for (((society))) to sacrifice mens health and mental sharpness, A guidebook for avoiding these issues can be very important

illimitablemen.com/2017/08/31/a-mans-guide-to-testosterone-replacement-therapy/

Fuck off nu-Holla Forums

i think i am not really low-T as i am quite muscular and eat pretty healthy most of the time. but always looking for ways to increase it.
I think a few other people here could be interested as well but we´ll see

Nice try kike
lift weights, learn a martial art (Muay thai, boxing, BJJ) Exercise, don't eat processed foods, stop watching porn, etc.

through pic related, but also through some research that I loosely remember (didnt save it though)…there is some indication that the dosages of plastics through environment are significant enough to cause problems to the hormonal system. No matter what you do otherwise through sports and habits…

Think of things like shower curtains, the fire retardant stuff in furniture, bathrobes…some types of clothing…many such things that are treated with plastics, or cause endocrine disruption…

So recently I started experimenting with medical grade like aromatic inhibitors. I first tried "Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione", but as I have learned later, it is meant to be used mostly only in a 1 month PCT…afterwards it will have huge detrimental problems to your body.

So I read about some milder forms. Mostly of novaldex. Which seems to be more suitable for longer term use. Since it also doesnt fuck with your cholesterol. But I have found out that it also has numerous downsides, along with brief mention that after you stop using them, the estrogen increases in your body once more because it helps to detox the liver???(kinda seems like a weird comment though)

So right now I started…I am thinking of doing 5mg novaldex for 2 months. And then quitting again. Getting a test of my testosterone in one week, and then one once more after I quit for a while.

I've shilled this before and I'll shill it again, but anything with ingredients roughly equivalent to this is fine as well.

Females prefer low T betabux as providers to take care of their children made with high T alphafux.

If she hit the wall and did not have a child with an alphafux and will have to settle with a low T betabux which won't put a baby in her asap, her natural drive will make her go out and seek high T alphafux Chads, which will result in cheating and possible cucking.

Low T levels these days it's why there is an epidemic of cuckolds and single mothers.

Now the question is if the food, healthcare products and the environment were affected to lower T levels in males that had normal levels and make them not breed, and make the minority of males with normally high T levels have average levels to make them still want to breed but also accept easier the authority of the high T elite and not compete with them.

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Can confirm, ingredients are good. If it had B12, Boron and Maca too it would be better.

the effects of these supplements…they are probably going to be near…though not totally negligible. The most potent thing that you can get is quite simple, its zinc. Since most of you dont eat enough meats where it can be found. But beyond that nothing really has huge significance on your test.

Pic related is more important. But these supplements are 95% pure garbage.

here's a little list of stuff to help you guys out; it covers what foods to eat/avoid, personal hygiene, products with ingredients that seep xenoestrogens into your skin, etc

pastebin.com/sTWNtf7i

can anyone post a link where you can order shampoos/soap without xenoestrogens?

Achilles also wasn't forced to drink microplastics every day of his life, didn't wash his hair with Patented Soyboy Shampoo, lather up with This Will Cuck You Soap and didn't come into contact with estrogenic compounds constantly. Achilles didn't have to give a fuck about Phthalates, Glycols, or any of the obtuse and arcane bullshit that's being pumped into us non-stop.

I don't think anyone should just take the supplements as a magic bullet and think "Yeah, it's all fine now, 100% okay now that I've got This Supplement," behavioral modification like in your image is definitely a priority, as is avoiding estrogenic products like in:

Google is tricky to use, but i found that taking your time and investing brainpower pays of.

Grow your own food and herbs if possible.
Look into spacebuckets and concealed growing for those who live in apartments.

Eat a healthy amount of spicy foods to help burn fat, put lemon slices in your water.

Avoid eating straight-up soy - Small amounts are ok in regulation if it's alongside other foods or if it's in a supplement where it is not a major ingredient.

checked, nice graphic

zinc is a magic bullet for more than half of the time though. Personally I am not familiar with other stuff like boron or iodine…but it seems fairly consistent that there are other deficiencies that are bound to arise from over-usage of soil. Things like b12 arent only used by vegetarians as well. Many foods are deficient in nutrients these days…but its fairly easy to fix. You could even get your blood done by a doc to see if you have any.

But once that is done, you have to tackle the beast of muscle use and being non sedentary. Once you do that…while you do that, your BMI should also be lowered…once that is done. You should look at plastics. I am not sure if there is a law of diminishing returns at work. To get the exact numbers which prevent you from getting 100% natty test that you can get with your genetics…I think that the plastics may be from 30% to 40%

lifting seems to be doing the trick on its own just fine. makes my shoulders sore as fuck though.

Iodine did nothing for me.

Boron did. Oh boy, it did. My sexual performance doubled, as in I can withstand double amount of relations with my partner. Lifts increased. Just overall a great enhancer.

Tribulus Terrestris is also a great herb supplement, but didn't increase my lifts nor overall testosterone levels; simply made me fuck more.

I'm a soy boy. Maybe I'll change my diet and what products I surround myself with when I get out of college. I hate working out though, like I really do not enjoy any aspect of working out… Is there a way to change that?

Step one: stop being a faggot.

usually push through till you trick your brain into liking it, or find a good motivation to do so.

Cut out soy.

Work out more.

Your body is meant to be undergoing low intensity sustained exercisethroughout the day punctuated by short spurts of intense activity.

If you aren't getting exercise the your body and mind aren't functioning how they are evolved to function

schedule in a few workouts a week, and try to push yourself a bit harder occasionally. once you actually do it a few times it will become self-motivating.

Cool infograph but f.lux is a fucking abortion.
Use SunsetScreen instead unless you want bizarre, untraceable errors in completely unrelated processes.

it's all based off cholesterol, so not sure what you're on about

Yea boron may be a cool thing. I got a supplement of that recently too, some copypaste on /fit/ seemed to be quite relevant. May be a gimmick or not, I dont know.

Its just that its hard to tell what is causing what. The 50% decrease in sperm, and near similar test (or more like 70% lol?) is very hard to attribute to anything. There is much speculation, but because of kike media/industries/science we do not have the capacity for society wide studies on the exact causes.

To the best of my ability I was thinking of novaldex now though.

I try everyday


I can't get over that initial hurdle I am a weak man when it comes to intense physical activity. Also I have no motivation for it other than not being a soyboy but I'm mostly neutral about that anyway.


How do you keep yourself working out? I can at most do 2 weeks and then I quit.

That statue makes me feel inadequite
Don't post that

Get tested. Search online for places, you shouldn't pay more than 40$ for a testosterone and free T test. Don't get the "sensitive" one, that' s for chicks or those on gear.

If you are low, you need to get LH / FSH tested and Prolactin. If prolactin is high, you have a tumor on your pituitary. You need to see a doc so they can proscribe carbogoline. If LH / FSH is low, get to a doc and get on clomid and arimidex. If LH / FSH is high, get to a doc and get on injections.

Thanks faggot. In the other thread we explored the ogre lifestyle. What is more high T than a fucking ogre? I ate raw onion with tuna last night and my mouth still tastes like onions. How do you deal with ogre breath?

find a buddy to go with. preferably someone who knows how to work out, but just having someone to make you feel accountable to will keep you going.

how much cardio are you doing?

here is my effortpost on xenoextrogens/EDC's and their effects on fish and humans. Includes citations for every claim made to aide in arguments

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microplastics are definitely in high enough concentration to have noticeable and measurable effects on fish populations, though the research on humans is slim. people who regularly are fish from the great lakes DO, however, have higher levels of estrogen in their body, which suggests that heightened levels of estrogen in fish transfer to humans


would add that you dont even really need to use shampoo in some cases, much less bodywash. I shave my head now, but before that I would wash my hair less than once a month, and haven't used any type of soap on my body for over a decade. never had complaints from women I took home, even if I specifically asked. additionally, avoid antiperspirants and artificial deodourants. go to your local hipster grocery store and buy MINERAL SALT DEODOURANT, it will look like a bar of salt. rub it in your pits for ~10s right after you shower, and it lasts all day to prevent any smells. Again, tested it with women after coming home from the gym, never even a single incident of "i can smell sweat", it was completely scentless

for dental care, remember that there is three parts to any oral care regimen.

1. brush your teeth with a non-kiked toothpaste
2. floss
3. oil pull. go out and buy a tub of virgin organic unpressed coconut oil, get a spoonfull, and swish it around your mouth for 10-20 MINUTES, afterwards spit it into the toilet/trash and get rid of it, do NOT swallow it. the coconut oil absorbs any leftover bacteria, in addition to helping to whiten and remineralize your teeth.
I have a non-kike dentist, and he always tells me I have the cleanest mouth he has ever seen, that any plaque that I do have is able to be removed with a strip of gauze instead of the metal tools, because it is so soft and weakly attached.

It's true. Fat increases convesion of T into estradiol.

STOP MASTURBATING AND STOP WATCHING (((PORN))). Check out >>>/nofap/.
Also here is some other information

Here is a list of things that will boost your test levels or block estrogen absorption. In other words, this first list is GOOD things

maca
cruciferous vegetables
shiitake mushrooms
white button mushrooms
red wine
oats (with max steroidal saponins & plant serols)
citrus fruits (NOT grapefruit)
onions & onion juice (for quercetin)
turmeric
algae (spirulina & chlorella)
green leafy vegetables
Fermented foods
coconut oil
garlic
chives
dark berries (blue, elder, black currant, & choke)

Here is a list of things (from another user) to do to avoid endocrine disruptors in daily life

1. Grain free diet as outlined in the friendly zombie threads
2. Countertop water distiller, distill and remineralize (heaping 14 teaspoon of himalayan pink salt per gallon) your own water
3. Natural fabrics, cotton for all clothes, 100% or it needs to be replaced, if not, like a jacket, wear a layer of cotton in between it and your skin. Also natural rugs over all the well trafficked areas of your (almost assuredly) plastic-based carpet
4. Natural materials everywhere else, wood, leather, metal (just not aluminum), glass are your friends. Ill try to do a better write-up on this later in the week, im still working solutions out in my own life
5. Solutions literally the liquid things you use all the time in your own home, cleaners, air fresheners, detergents, soaps, almost all harshly chemical, almost all replaceable for cheap with home-made options. this one is really cool and fun, gonna write at length about it.
Copper for door handles, etc.

Also

Red clover has a fuckton of estrogen. Most commercial honey is from clover pollen. You do the math.

Basically, any volatile synthetic material that you come into contact with in daily life (plastics, fiberboards, adhesives, etc) can be assumed to screw up your testosterone production. This includes synthetic fabrics like clothing and carpet.
Nearly all water has birth control (which feminizes men) and pharms in it, which do not get removed during normal filtering processes. These alone will fuck you up. Filter your water with either heat or UV light (or both) and do not drink from plastic vessels.
Lock your diet down. This will include sacrifice and a lot of research. Prepare as much of your food from raw ingredients as possible. You will sleep better, feel better, heal faster, and become more masculine and less feminized.
Look into aromatase inhibitors. These are compounds that prevent your body from absorbing estrogen. American Ginseng, pomegranate, and tobacco are examples of substances that contain aromatase inhibitors. Don't smoke though, because that will hurt your ability to fight effectively.
I know it seems like a lot. But I've made only a handful of these changes in my life and it made a world of difference for me. Do as many as you are capable of right now, and then slowly work on integrating the others into your life.

ah the hollistic approach. Yes. I would love it if you guys tried to make charts. Lots of killings by the pharma jew is happening because of this approach.

But havent you looked into aromatic inhibitors? Maybe other sources still? Safer ones maybe? Novaldex seems like the safest one so far.

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It's more expensive now than it used to be. I just make my own soap now.
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saute at no more than 108°F, lose minimal nutritional value

Anything resembling these ingredients works well.

novaldex, anavar, and anavol
all three are used as a "lighter" alternative to potentially more harmful anabolic steroids like dbol, test-e, tren, insulin, etc.
I know that crossfitters use them because they don't have the telltale signs of pinning, namely roidgut and a huge uptick in recovery and muscle mass, but rather more of a training aide

I don't know much of the biochemistry, only a little knowledge from /cheatingfraudsgeneral/ and general talk on /fit/
/cfg/ seems to hate any and all oral sterons, though their goal is to get huge fast, so take it with a grain of salt. I would recommend having blood tests regularly if you choose to pin any drugs, as you never know if something is going to go wrong, and you should have a doctor be able to look at a history to aide in diagnosis

Here's the deal, working out sucks. Its basically self induced exhaustion, why would anyone like it?
Sure, you get a release of happy hormones afterward, but you have to do it first.
And that's the point, you need to have a reason that makes your motivation stronger then your laziness.
No one can give you that reason. I personally have more then enough to keep going, better health, more energy, better looking body, self defense, useful everyday strength and stamina, being more attractive to females and of course to make fun of soyboys. Get your own reason, enough to choose from.

I would strongly suggest, considering you are at 0 right now, that you start with push ups. Simple, require nothing but a ground, you can regulate the intensity and might give you confidence by pumping your chest a bit.
Set yourself a daily repetition count. Like 50 or something. Do it in sets of 5-10, 30sec-1minute pause, go again. If you skip a day, ignore, do it the next day.
Practice makes the master. Don't be a faggot.

generally also don't trust to miss 2-3 days cause then you're just going to give up

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You're an idiot.

Try high-rep 30-minute workouts 3 times a week for a few weeks (preferably on the same day and time each workout session). If you got access to a gym, use machines to make it easier on you. It takes little effort, but will make you adapt to keeping a schedule and working out with as few injuries and complications as possible. Progress to a bit more intense program when you feel like you own your current one.

t. complete newb who did that shit and it worked and got me into training regularly. A few months later, NOT working out at least 3-4x a week is out of the question.

no love for my conspiracy theory?

Heh, an ogre is exactly what I always feel like with the food I eat. I mean check out this ogre brew I made last night, these lentils are what I eat 90% of the time. 130g of protein, 11g of fiber, 1080 calories in a 1 pound bag that costs $1.26 at Walmart. Lentils are just low in the amino acid methionine, so eat some complete protein also with them, like ham.

Also take zinc pills because legumes tend to have typsin inhibitors that function with the bodies usage of zinc.

>didn't feel like cooking this morning, just drank six eggs

I walk around that's my cardio.


Yeah I just don't have a reason or motivation. Sometimes I wish I was morbidly obese. I would then have a reason to work out.

What exactly do I look for when trying to gauge a store's goods? I don't know a thing about grocery stores that sells proper veggies, I can find the local butcher just fine though. Oh and the only vitamin supplement I use is good old traditional cod liver oil in the winter, since the sun is blocked most of the time during winter and when it isn't the time it's out is so short it doesn't have a good impact for Vitamin D.

One little discovery I found with my clothing issues is that boxers is better then underwear for your dick and balls, it feels comfortable and it isn't choking your dick out. Real nice.

Of novaldex I know that its not a "Steroid" (or is it classified as such?). It is used in post cycle therapy. To keep your endocrine system in check and to reduce the time needed to get to normal levels of testosterone again. Thats its main use. It does not directly target testosterone. Its main mode of operation is estrogen reduction. Which then CAN increase test obviously as the lower the estrogen…cortisol as well with novaldex?…the higher the test.

I asked in a couple of threads, even emailed the dude who sells sarms and it seems like its a novelish way, rarer way to use them, not for PCT.

Though…if I had to be honest… I think that there may be a lot of lazy people out there who do not want to work out, avoid a thousand fucking different things outside or spent a lot of time on generic self improvement that will improve test. That is why aromatic inhibitors may be so tempting…if they are stable enough, and if they can breach above 51% of the low test, high estrogen problems, with few side effects than that could be a much simpler solution to "fix" the men. Though obviously still not recommended by me. But still…for all the dumb guys asking questions about how to avoid the many problems, instead of many graphs and much test you could potentially just take one pill and one sheet of instructions…

Though I fear that novaldex may not be this pill. But the only reason I strayed from the natty path was the knowledge that even if I trained for 3 years (I really did), ate clean and did EVERYTHING in my power to increase test naturally, there still remains a large chunk of uncontrollable variables…then it is morally okay to try to use other means to destroy that chunk.

Stop eating soy you faggot, college isn't an excuse. Also check the ingredients in everything for soy, you'd be surprised what they put that shit in (practically everything).

nobody will tell you about soil depletion. Many dont even measure for it. Safest bet is to do a blood test for deficiencies.

Then how about you just fuck off and don't waste peoples time. Do you seek pity? If you are ok with being a scrawny push over all your life, then go on with giving no fucks. No one here cares.
Changing the world beings with changing yourself.

Post the recipe faggot.
I thought you were a torfag due to the ID.


More like the stacies have to settle for beta providers due to the shortage of high T men these days, but still cuck them with chad T-surge so they don't produce weak soyboy offspring.

go to a containment thread and then gas yourself, retard

I'm going to assume you're calling me an idiot, well sorry user but I don't implicitly trust Chink owned mom and pop shops. And half of them are just corner stores with the kind of shit you'd find from the grocery store and their chemical sprays.

Frozen broccoli, spinach and green beans are just fine and you can eat a kilo a day if you can stomach so much.
Or you can eat creamed shit, phosphate-ridden pigmeat and raw eggs like this animal:

I don't eat that much soy (knowledgeably) but it's more of the other stuff like not working out, using cheap cleaning and grooming products, etc that makes me a soyboy.

no what I am telling you is that soil depletion, things like boron and other minerals that are important for plants…are black swan events. Most people who grow the plants probably dont know, or dont care about it.

I enjoy the attention yeah. Also I'm not much of a pushover. Just overweight and likely vitamin deprived.

Remove grain from the diet, it contains proteins that stimulate insulin production and retention far more than straight table sugar. Lift according to HIT principles. Avoid sugars as much as possible, also avoid juices and bulk dairy like milk, stick to stored fat items like butter or cheese (harder and fattier the better).

Avoid chemicals whenever possible, cotton > anything else (about all of which will be plastic fiber) - that goes fir bedsheets, rugs, drapes, furniture, anything you can get. Getting chemicals free furniture is the toughest part but we'll rewarding. All dishes and utensils should be stainless steel, wood, or silicone rubber on all the contact points, aluminum is not an acceptable out. Distilled water from bpa free containers (opaque plastic gallon jugs). Store food in unbleached butcher paper wrap, if necessary wrap plastic over the butcher paper.

Herbal supplements DO work for t, some basically qualify as steroids. Here are my two favorites

- beta ecdysterone + tribulus terrestris: take one before each workout day of a month (max 3x per week), cycle two months on one month off

- pine pollen tincture: a legit wonder, this is nothing but pine pollen (yellow shit on your car) that has been soaked in alcohol for month then strained through cheesecloth. It is adaptogenic meaning it will normalize levels of all hormones in your body. Can cycle the same as beta e, but it is weaker so instead I would suggest 2 dropperfuls under the tongue 3x daily for a month, cycle one month on one month off (it is a sublingual, you put under tongue and hold for three minutes, then spit out).

As with anything, it's possible to go over the rec dose, dsayor. Microdosing under the rec is always a good way to start experimenting. With anything you get, always look for grains in the ingredients, companies love to use wheat corn and rice as bulking agents… also avoid soy the same way.

A note of caution with all supplements, they are by and large sourced from China. "Organic" is a shat upon term nowadays because there are "organic" Chinese certified farms, and they can sell stuff to America online without saying country of origin. China as a whole is polluted beyond belief. Expect anything sourced from there to have toxic amounts of lead, arsenic, cyanide, and more, even in a single dose of the supplement.

As you might imagine, wading through the shit to find something domestic sourced is not easy, and distributors (usually some nigger jew sitting on his ass at home running a website) have no interest in helping you find this shit out nor reproduce it yourself.

Links

amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BZPLYJ4/ref=mp_s_a_1_12_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1511028414&sr=8-12&keywords=gluten free pine
This is pine pollen tincture made with potato vodka, nice touch but still not American sourced.

canadianpinepollen.com/pine-pollen-store/
A bit better, expensive but still sourced in North America. Premade tincture is constantly sold out (the rich know to avoid their own poison), buy bulk pollen powder and make your own tinctures with their lodgepole sourced pine.


amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00V4MHQD2/ref=mp_s_a_1_sc_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1511029477&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=beta tribulys
This is the beta e plus tribulus I use. One of these three times a week will vastly boost your benefits from weight lifting, as well as promote aggression, energy, and good mood. Don't know for sure if it's USA sourced but from what I've gleaned it's likely either here (USA) or Germany where its made.

They're incredibly simple to cook, calling it a recipe at all is a joke.

Right now I'm always chopping up garlic and ham to mix in also, however you can put in absolutely anything you want. That pic there I had spinach, bellpeppers, onions, tomatoes, and almonds mixed in also.

You claim that crossfitters take var because it is safer than test despite the fact that it's unsafe to use var without test because it will shut down your balls even if it doesn't aromatize in females.
Sorry chap, if you take var then you take T. Not to mention var has a limit of about 8 weeks before liver toxicity and the strength benefits don't last after you stop using. It does help reduce belly fat though.
Go back to roid forums.

I want to start working out but I do not enjoy the gym atmosphere (too many people). What are good at home workouts? Someone suggested push up reps I know.

Pushups, pull ups, and jump rope is all you need.

is this why sex feels better and feels more urgent when you wake up in the middle of the night? Im sure this is common, you wake up with your wife or gf and fug, feels somehow better than usual then go back to sleep. it may just have something to do with being relaxed and blood flow, but I dont know.

are you legitimately autistic?
this is going to be the third time I say that I am not a pinning expert. This means that I don't understand all the eccentricities of whatever chem people are taking.

I can understand if you are trying to impress all your user buddies, but it comes off as reddit cringeshit. I don't condescendingly lecture people on the differences between pines, spruces, and redwoods, why do you feel the need to talk down to people who have already said they are not an expert on a topic?

you then come up with this shit

as if pushups/pullups/jumping rope is in any way sufficient for a bodyweight workout
no mention of doing bodyweight squats, balance work, hitting the deltoids with pikes, working the core, or anything outside of arms and cardio

starting to think you are a kike disinfo shill, but regardless, if you dont have anything to contribute, gas yourself faggot

This stuff really works, the boners can get annoying but the overall confidence and energy boost is worth it

inb4 30 replies

The memes must flow

lol I dont know mang, I do know that cortisol gets raised during the night as well?

Lift heavy.

To the Holla Forumsacks in the thread, a friendly reminder:
Unless you practice weightlifting or are an athlete, keep your cucky beta advice for yourself.

I don't blame you, at my college gym they'd play the worst dindoo beats at the highest volume.
I just do pushups and situps, better than nothing.

It's good you're doing something, which is always infinitely better than nothing. However you really should at least throw in some leg exercises also, even if it's just dry squats or lunges. Pullups too.

Exercising a muscle raises testosterone, and your legs are the largest muscles in your body. The lats too are pretty big. You'll get faster results over the entire body incorporating these things.

I know, I know


but what is the actual opinion of this as a product. From what I can tell, the ingredients seem to check out.

Nigger here on planet Earth you don't tell people who have little desire to exercise that they need to do a large variety of nuance exercises. If the average person keeps their weight down, their heart rate down, and their blood pressure healthy then they are doing just fine.

You're entirely correct, however I don't think we here at Holla Forums should settle for average.

so you are indeed suffering from soy-induced autism, got it

….ive actually bought Brain Force, it was fine. Alex Jones even says its basically the same stuff youd find at a Whole Foods or something, its just it got mega memed and he shills it so much, people were ragging on him.

its probably the same people who do politifact checks which are 100% false. It would be quite improbable that he would be able to sell stuff that has zero value as they proclaim. So it indeed most likely falls into "nearly generic, but somewhat slightly more effective than average stuff"

Can I put my OC fanfiction in here? :3

Get the store brands that are cheaper because they have no marketing.

You could jump rope 3 hours a day and remain a fat fuck because it burns fuck all calories and you'll need to reward yourself with a cunting cupcake because it's boring as fuck.
It's a waste of time unless you need stamina to run away from something. You'll be too fucking tired to lift afterwards too.
Lift weights. Start light and keep piling on the weight while you perfect your technique. Anyone who has room for and a floor that will support a power cage should have one. Lift 3 non-consecutive days a week without having to listen to nigger music, spending an hour traveling/changing and munching a mug of slime and a banana instead of a homecooked meal.
Read up on bodyweight exercises if you don't have the room or are too poor to support a barbell and cage.

It was 22:51 when I got the call.
"Andromielle, we need you"

It was NATO. My company. They always called me when they were in trouble.
I told them I was on holiday so it must be serious. They always call me when its serious.

"Ok" I said. "I'll be right over"

I quickly went over to NATO HQ in my Rocket
I past Bob at the gate, who recognized me and let me in straight away.

As I got to the elevator, Sam Hyde joined me on the way up.After our usual round of "attacking the pink fortress" we discussed whats up.
"Whats up?"
"Trouble."
"They called me back from my vacation. It must be serious"
"Always is" said Sam Hyde
"This time its NATO oldest enemy, Brotherhood of Evil, upto their old tricks again"
"Typical Brotherhood of Evil. Always doing the evil"
"I suppose they are after Sequence of Dubs again "
"yup"
"Ok, I'll assemble a team tomorrow and we will deal with wicked ways"
With that we stepped out of the elevator into the carpark and went home
When it came to assemble the team tomorrow I knew just who to pick.
"Sam Hyde"! I said.
(The god of KEK Jr. had started working here recently, as she had a change of heart recently and decided it was their true calling)
"Hay, Andromielle" said The god of KEK Jr.
"Thanks for picking me!"

"No problem" I replied. Sam Hyde was the obvious choice for this job
I then told the team to assemble in the planning room so we could plan the mission.
In the planning room we evaluated the data we had.

"Ok, we know that Brotherhood of Evil is trying to find the Sequence of Dubs. This is probably so they can use it to dominate our friends and family"


"Now I have called our friends at the TEDTALKS and they have narrowed the location of the Sequence of Dubs down to Tokyo."
"Cant they do better then that?" said Evalion
"No, its only TEDTALKS""
"-sigh- stupid TEDTALKS."
"yeah.NATO always has to keep bailing TEDTALKS out of trouble..

"Well, I guess we are of to Tokyo!" said Sam Hyde.

So we all leaped onto our NATO Teslas and went there!

right. also, these herbs can vary A LOT in price and potency. i dabble in herbalism and have a few books about this sort of thing. Id recommend getting both a field guide to herbs/edible things and about natural medicine. some things it doesnt matter if you get cheap 3 dollar store brand powder in capsules or the high dollar stuff. there are a ton of things suppose to raise your testosterone from bee pollen all the way down to garlic and zinc. also, not everything is going to work for every body.

wat

Once we got to Tokyo we decided to split up, with me and Sam Hyde finding where the Sequence of Dubs was hidden and the rest doing something which doesn't mater for the story.

Me and Sam Hyde explored the town, checking out all the nightclubs and skyscrappers in Tokyo.
Eventually, after I had done enough teamwork, I found where the Sequence of Dubs was hidden.
It was inside a new church in the dead center of Tokyo.

"Look! Its the Sequence of Dubs!"
"But The Jewis here already! whats going on?"

At that moment The Chosen spotted us and came over.
"Mahaha it was me! I was Brotherhood of Evil all along!"
"What?" we said in shock..
"While you and your goody-two-shoes NATO were being all 'la-de-da' "we are good guys" la-de-da', I was being Brotherhood of Evil!
And now I have the Sequence of Dubs there is nothing you can do to stop me! Even with Sam Hyde to help you! your powerless"
The Jew grinned evily at me.
"oh, noees Andromielle, what will we do now?! " said Sam Hyde.
"Dont worry, we still got time. Activating the Sequence of Dubs takes time. If we both Shitposting together we can take The Jew/Brotherhood of Evil out! "
"On the count of 3! 1 2 3 GO!"
With that we both Shitposting together right into Brotherhood of Evils face.

Brotherhood of Evil stagged backwards.
"Nooooo you cant!"

"Again quick! while they are stunned".

So we did it again. "Bam! Pow!"
"Noooo!"
With that Brotherhood of Evil died.
"We did it! Brotherhood of Evil is defeated once and for all! Thank you Andromielle!"
Me and Sam Hyde celebrated are victory. But it was only the first of many more to come. As there was more evils in the world then just Brotherhood of Evil and they will all be coming after the Sequence of Dubs now.
So consider this the end of part 1 of Andromielle and Sam Hydes adventures!

You have to push through the initial stages - it may suck for few weeks then you'll be motivated.
Weaklings give it up before it becomes enjoyable.
Set a workout plan of few workouts per week. Then build on that.

By your reaction I assume you didn't like it.. :(

fug

sorry, not "bee pollen", I was thinking of Royal Jelly. the stuff bees feed to the queen. Ive read in an older herb book it boosts testosterone, and in other newer ones that it has no effect. The biggest general advice is avoid all junk food of course (cutting out anything with hfcs or artifical sweetener alone is big as it would be a ton of shit food), getting plenty of excersice and thinking positively and being confident.

well…ugh…its not bad or anything but why come into a thread about testosterone with this.

A legitimate concern. Buy vintage Ray Ban shades (Bausch and lomb era) to shield your eyes on the way to the gym. Then get Howard leight shooters earplugs (amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0033YLEOref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511033747&sr=8-1spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=howard leight plugs 33&psc=1) and wear them to drown out unwanted noise. I wear mine at all times outside the house. I find I can still interface, but the annoyingness of conversations and music overheard is gone, like a threshold for caring about sound has to be passed.

I don't know man, I just took the first thread i saw on the frontpage. Didn't feel like creating a thread for it, and I never go to any other boards anyway.

Do you think people get bad hearing when they are old because they expose themselves to extreme noise from the street?

So basically it's just a pill with a bunch of mashed green herbs inside it that helps your body stop being faggy? Or is it all in your mind?
What I want to know is waht is the actual physical reaction that it does to your body?

It's not a single-cause issue, as in for example, there is an oil spill in the ocean, so the fauna is dying. It is a multitude of factors, one or another being the major ones, and others not so much. No one knows the exact impact each variable has on the populace, but it is already common language there is just too much fuckery around to dismiss the problem, which is why a board centered on political discussion constantly goes back to fitness as one of the main arguments behind their tenets.

I dont know how much it effects my T, but today I am three weeks without porn or masturbation and I feel excellent. I strongly recommend it to anyone who hasn't already tried nofap.

For purely natural ways, you have two things to do apart from eating good quality of food:
1) Eat a lot of raw spinach and steamed broccoli. They naturally raise testosterone. Pop-Eye eating spinach is not random.
2) Eat a lot of raw red fruits and raw red berries. Most of them contain ingredients that will naturally flush xeno-estrogens.

Other advice:
-If you need a "healthy" sugar kick, try red grapes.
-Pomegranate juice is God in a glass.
-Do not concern yourself with cucumbers, lettuce, and generally leafy greens (except for spinach of course). They are mostly for women, or to make you feel full.
-Drink more water than you feel you need. It helps with kidney stones and more pee means (a little) more xeno-Estrogens are flushed.

Non-diet related are pretty obvious:
-Reverse porn aversion by going backwards from fetishes to no-fetishes to traditional to none. Don't cut it outright, it is going to destroy your psychology.
-Put 3-4 goals, and achieve at least one point towards at least one of them every day. The satisfaction alone will help your testosterone levels and help you sleep better.
-Cut bad self-poisoning habits unless you are at a party, not more than once or twice each per month (less is better). Those include alchohol, drugs, smoke. A cigar/pipe or 2 doses of alchohol on your close friend's birthday is fine.
-Generally reduce sugar to the bare minimum you can withstand. The fact that women love sweets naturally is not random. If you can, buy 99% cocoa dark chocolate (or anything above 80%) and take a bite if you have a sweet tooth once in a while.
-Care less about others' feelings and pay more attention to their actions and motives. Do not express your emotions unless in a safe environment and only rarely. Emotional tantrums are a womanly sport.
-Generally build a manly character. Your body follows your wishes. If you act manly, the body will adapt to make your manly.

If you jumped rope for 3 hours a day you'd be

If you boil your water it takes out the birth controls and other chemical? So drinking tea is good?

Eggs are high in choline, they will help bind Xenoestrogens from plastics. Do not drink things from plastic bottles if it can be helped. Do not eat sugary food. Yes fluoride is bad for you but sugary processed foods are debatably worse overall.

Testosterone can be reduced if you have diabetes or insulin resistance. When people go on Ketosis they seem to have a testosterone drop until the body adapts to fat burning. When the body is able to burn fat efficiently your testosterone should increase.

The most important thing is INTERMITTENT FASTING and EXERCISE. Look up Intermittent fasting and exercise like a white person, not a retard who is trying to be a body builder. Squats, deadlifts, pushups, pull ups, stuff that actually makes you stronger poind for pound, makes you faster, makes you more deadly when you need to be. Having large muscles looks intimidating to pussys but having skills and the know how to use them is what’s important.

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You can actually live on the sugar from honey alone. You don't need sugar intake from any other source.

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well the oil spill analogy is not entire productive I believe. There is probably not a single cause for this. The way I see it, from what data is available. 30-40% is probably plastics and industry. 30% is probably sedentary life (and being fat) (and little muscle activation), and the rest is probably improper food.

Then there are the weird things like psychological causes (since we know that at the very least, behavioral things, getting victories, being dominant, power poses increase test) so the inverse is probably also true.

I myself went through pretty much everything but the directed, anti plastics for 3 years now and it didnt have HUGE effects. Though I didnt measure it at that time. Just looked at secondary effects like smell, chest hair, maybe even very subjective "energy levels". Had some improvements, but felt like there was more to be gained still.

I got on Sustanon 250 recently, night and day. Feel like an 18 year old again.

The least shitty of something shit is still shit.
Unbelievable bullshit.
Not from jumping fucking rope they aren't. They need stamina to obey arbitrary rules for half an hour.

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Im not trying to engage in a shit talking argument with you but you are fundamentally wrong in your notion that aerobic exercise will automatically make you less fat. What this type of exercise is really good at is burning through the bodies relatively shallow glucose stores so that fat burning can start. However, it will not be the main mechanism in which fat will be “burned” off the body. It burns a relatively small amount compared to what you will take in through your diet. What you eat is literally >90% of what determines your body fat levels. How much carbohydrates and sugar you intake is more important alone than exercise. Exercise is great for so many things, but as a weight loss method it’s pretty shitty. It helps regrow nuerons, increase endorphins and dopamine, makes you stronger, happier, and smarter, but if you use exercise to get thinner you will be disappointed.

I've only been thinking about it couple weeks (while wearing the earplugs) but I'm beginning to think yes, we are overexposed to a great degree. I drive 12 hours a day and when I started wearing earplugs the difference was palpable. I no longer had earpain at the end of a shift, and my mood was overall far improved upon getting home.

My guess is that hearing damage studies, like many health recs, are based upon snapshot images. A 140db sound will damage the first time you hear it, every time, and enough to produce measure le effect (yes I know outside environment is a conflating factor). But what about 95db over the course of a whole day? I believe now it is a lifelong degradation, like eating sugar and bulk carbs wears down your pancreas and your joints (because it causes inflammation).

All leads back to the primal forest theory: we haven't moved far off from our comfy primal forest physiology wise, and most everything we can do to recreate that environment is to our benefit.

Is it bad that I always want Cinnamon desserts?

Youre a fucking retard. Youre just pumping test into your body. So your body, full of foreign test, stops producing it's own because it's fucking lazy. I hope your an oldfag, like near 50+. Just telling anons to start a roid cycle without any info on how to do it properly as to avoid major side effects is erroneous and degenerate and I hope you get banned, reported.

Basically just live like a normal man.
Eat healthy, get regular exercise, stay away from processed and pre-packaged muck. Not really anything to it on the surface but living this way cheaply in the inner city is really fucking hard, especially with an office job.

Well if you're below your recomended T-levels part of the treatment is taking roids but in controlled amounts and on top of that getting into exercise and drastically changing your diet. So you do need to get some bloodwork done female doctors will lie to you if you ask if it's normal, always ask for the actual numbers.

Kick the sugar, keep the cinnamon. anabolicmen.com/cinnamon-testosterone/

What Body Fat Percentage should one be?

You'll also have to take SERMs and other chems to counteract the mass injection of test into your body. And once you come off your cycle, you'll again have to take chems and sups to get your body to control its own hormone production levels again without it shutting down and just pumping out estrogen.
I understand low t is treated with different roids but this isn't a /cheat/ general, it's a thread about maintaining t levels naturally and avoiding factors that fuck your hormones up. Suggesting roids so casually is retarded as all fuck, do I'll put it in a way that user should have.

If you wanna take the easiest route, go get your blood done at a clinic or better yet a practice that specializes in low t treatment. Be prepared to cycle their prescriptions for the foreseeable future and to fork up the dosh for the sups and chems. There are risks to this method and you should inform yourself of them before making this decision and follow all instructions set by your doctor prescribing you this treatment.

checked
For men around 10-15 seems optimal imo
For women at least 20 and probably not more than 25

SPIRULINA & CHLORELA are awesome. They will clean out every garbage that your body has accumulated throughout the years including not wanted estrogen.

What country do you live in that your T-levels are not low to the point that you do need steroids? A dirty secret in my country is that everyone in my age group and lower have T-levels so low that they do need the steroids. The natural way doesn't raise T-levels enough.

i did one cycle of prohormones (halotest 25) and the accompanying post cycle then never did any roids again and kept pretty much all of the gains. the base you build during the cycle will set you for life as long as you exercise semi-regularly. i can feel the test just thinking about it.

Where are you from?


Don't prohormones hurt your liver a lot though?

you can take supplements to defend your liver. im not knowledgeable enough about them though, i only did it for 2 months but no regrets from me. just built a solid base and they fucking work.

This is simply not the case no matter what country you live in. There is advice that has been posted itt already that is very good. I'll mark them now


especially, zinc is key as well as the user that suggested cod liver oil and vitamin d

I'll reiterate, if you want the easy route, go get your blood done and a prescription. But unless your into your late 30s and have lived a lazy, unhealthy, absolute shit lifestyle there is no reason your body can't start producing adequate t levels on it's own with modifications in your diet, exercise, product use and habits without needing low t treatment.

I see no noticeable difference tbh.

Could be the angle of the shot but his chest and shoulders look a bit wider

theres a 10-12 pound difference and if you cant see how the chest filled out, the shoulders capped, forearms and the obvious trap gains….

Discipline, nigger. To be honest though, the only hard thing is starting. Once you've started moving and your blood is pumping it's actually harder to stop moving. What worked for me is turn on some high-energy music like Rock or DnB to get into the "i want to do something" mood and force myself to use the skipping rope to warm up no matter how much i don't feel like doing it, then once you've warmed up the rest is childs play.

dude, what? Royal Jelly is fed to the queen bee, its like a liquid they make from necter. its suppose to have all sorts of health benefits. I took it erryday for about 4 months and all I noticed was more energy shortly after taking it. I didnt have blood work done so i dont know about all that stuff. everything else seemed normal.

Canada

The US and Canada share problems with hormones in the water, but Canada also has a lot of issues with hormones in the food. Specifically that all the healthy growth for men in suburban, urban, and the closest rural towns for about 2-3 decades was from growth hormones in the meat. Once that was stripped out a massive spike in soyboys happened overnight. Nobody actually knows what to do to solve this problem, oh and everything you read about Canada's healthcare system from "official" sources can be safely written off as a steaming pile of bullshit.

True. The angles are off. Shoulder caps are more pronounced.


What were the strength increase like? You should really point anons toward a reliable source in how to manage a cycle if youre going to recommend one at all tbh. I've never fucked with roids cause I enjoy the struggle but I understand the temptation but anons have to be aware of the risks because hormones are serious fucking business and the damage can be irreversible if youre negligent. Actually I remember a website mentioned on /fit/ years ago related to roids. It was anabolicminds.com or something like that.

I buy Supermale when it gets to 40 - 50% off, and it definitely works.

Fat levels up to 18% is not that great of a deal if you're also packing muscle.


Met an acquintance who did two cycles and did 100% of the procedures to not have an estrogen rebound. Not only his progress was minimal, he strongly regretted the money he spent, and told me if he rather spent it on supplements, he'd have enough for a couple years of workout, plus some leftovers.

The veredict of roids is that you either get huge and suffer the side effects or you hold off the estrogen rebound and get minimal results for your buck, especially when you're plateau'ing your gains.

Are you not worried about testicular shrinkage?

5 pullups to 15. repping 170 bench for sets of 5 to repping 205 for sets of 5. all other lifts had about the same rate increase. the strength gains were the craziest part. after the cycle ended i did lose some gains short term (back down to repping 195 or so on bench) but was able to work back up to 205 a month later. all i took was the prohormones, and a post cycle therapy from the same company. i did buy estrogen blockers with the cycle but never took them because no side effects ever came up.

funny story. I was on probation years ago and one guy i had to do community service with was a doctor, he still had a license after selling meth pills to a bunch of people. anyway, he said he would cycle on and off steroids and how awesome he would feel all the time. if done correctly, according to this dude, even if youre over 50, doing steroids is badass and there is no downside as long as you know how to cycle off of it. At that point we were all sitting around thinking damn…I wanna do steroids now.

You’re body will resist it initially because it disturbs your equilibrium. However there is literally no shortcut. Even steroids contrary to popular belief do not make you want to work out if you simply don’t do it now. There are guys I know who bought steroids and took them and didn’t have enough time to work out and go to work plumbing for 10 hours a day. They looked no different than they had before.

man up and dont worry about it, faggot. also you could try swishing around some white or apple cider vinegar or something like that

You better be reasonably muscular if you're at 15% though. 15% (or more) with little muscle looks like shit.

t. speaking from experience

damn, you ripped son

That doctor is like the models on Instagram that post all the inspirational quotes and “no excuses” and “hard work” bullshit all the while knowing they are taking drugs and steroids along with starving themselves to death to look good for the pictures. A lot of these people eventually come clean and talk about how much they cheated, how miserable they felt, and how much they regret it.

Misery loves company, people on steroids seem to have this irrational need to get other people to do it also.

youre right, all I was saying is its worth a look at if youre willing to put in the work. also this guy hadnt done them in probably over 6 months (drug tests) and looked normal. Ive heard all sorts of things on either side of the spectrum and it just gets my noggin joggin, like how if some dudes do roids, they will shortly have micro nuts and be an emo bitch in jail for trying to suck dick for drugs.

Nice self-sabotage, faggot.

It's not hard to not eat five 16" pizzas every day. People keep forgetting that you are at a higher risk of death just for being fat than you are for being full-on bulemic, and we're not even talking about the latter.

The fact of the matter is that nearly everyone on this board is low T nu males with estrogen fueled bitch tits. There are ways to fix that and there are ways to bitch and complain because you don't want to put the effort in.

We're about to go into a full scale war to end all wars here boys. It's only to time prepare ourselves physically and mentally for the upcoming pain and suffering.

This.
At the end of the day, a strong man is more useful than a weak man. It's as simple as that.

All those strength marks are more or less easily achieveable without taking any "supplements".
I also wouldnt take prohormones if you want to do this kind of thing, i would go on regular steroids 250mg every 5-7 days. The reason for this: the prohormones have the same effect on your endrological system like regular roids do, small dosages also have little side effects on the vast majority of young men. The hard hitter is the psychological strain and the possibility of an addiction. But repping 5x170lbs on the bench isnt exactly a point were you factor in roids.

I reached those marks in 6 months with regular supplements (creatine+whey protein+multivitamins). That guy had to cheat to reach above average marks.

Well from a stochastic utilitarian point of view: A strong man gets a lot more titanimals than a numale, not even factoring in the benefits for your very own body.

Never forget a strong heart though. It's easy to go blind over strenght, but being fast, agile and having enough stamina is way more useful. Look at all the guys in elite forces, smaller guys, strong but thin. Can run and walk for days though, no end to them.

What the fuck is this onion meme bullshit?
Onions are >4% sugar and fuck all else.
Is this an attempt to give everyone metabolic disease?

I wouldnt use creatine, you pull in 2-3kg of water, you have a little bit more strength, but you have to drink a shitload of water, if you dont you might have health risks. So basically you are a donkey on stick on creatine, you always have to take it to get 5% more power on your max reps to increase the muscle strain to gain more muscle.

Don't do roids, unless you know how to workout and really know what you're doing. Then there's the side-effects which practically tells you you're not supposed to take them. If they were so good for you as some try and shill lately (Joe Rogan for example), then you wouldn't have problem with your natural hormone-production afterwards. Neither would you have the risk of getting sterile, heart-diseases etc.

It's not good for you.

Yeah; steroids are only something you want to consider if you're old as fuck and have already hit your maximum potential.

That's the thing too; while genetics matter if you want to go be an Olympic weight lifter or some freakishly huge strongman, every beta male schlub can hit decent numbers with little effort if he puts the work in.

To drive the message home, there's no point to going down the steroid route if you can still make gains or you're young. Even then, if I ever get old and plateau, I'd just work on maintaining what I had into a graceful old age like those strong as fuck old timers you see in the gym-ever notice they're as sharp as a whip? Because they always work on maintaining what they've earned and the brain benefits from that.

With 'roids, the only time someone should really consider them is if the amount of estrogen in their body is making them suicidal. I'd get just the normal test through a doc from a reputable clinic since EVERYONE has low t in this world and the prescription is retardedly easy to get in burgerland with most goysurance covering it.


I agree, but you can (and should!) have both.
As an aside, most of the strong, fast, and endurable guys don't make selection anymore because of faggots who 'vote' them out. Estrogen or buddy fucking? Either way, had a buddy excel on everything and not make selection; he was legit stunned—other friends tried to tell him it's more about cock sucking these days than capability, but he can't process that kind of truth.

Reported.

Well my point there was not to compare being fat with being bulimic, I was saying that it’s a facade that cannot be continued for a long period of time because of how stressful it is. Did you know, being an obese person with insulin resistance is essentially starving your cells for energy? That’s why their body tells them to eat and eat when they don’t need food, they need insulin spikes to shuttle a little energy into their cells in order to function. It’s why fatasses get hungry 9 times a day. The body was not meant to run on as much glcuose and sugar and processed foods as the modern diet contains. Even raw sugar cane had fiber and loads of potassium that made it healthy as long as you didn’t over do it.

Yes being fat is worse, but being healthy and not falling for the “you need steroids” bullshit is also important at a different stage in peoples lives. First, quit being a fatass and get the diet under control, then you will be able to get in shape much easier.

The main reason why steroids can become a real health threat is that a shitter in his 20s will take 250mb e5d wont stop at that dosage, he will afterwards, especially after just working out for a year take more and more and more.
And then you have real health issues really fast.

Creatine is the most studied supplement on Earth and you'd be a fool not to lose it. Yeah, you have to drink more water, but so what? The gains you make from the increased recovery time are astronomical—and remember, the older you get, the harder it is to keep up a good frequency of high intensity weight lifting. The stronger you get, the worse that wear and tear becomes. Creatine is crucial in actually building muscle, but what's really crazy is that creatine deficiency, such as when being a soyboy who doesn't eat meat, actually has been shown to cause depression, mental retardation, and laziness.

In short, take creatine.


We don't disagree save that there is a place for test on the wellness spectrum since low T blows, it's just that it doesn't have a place in supplementing workout regimens unless you're trying out for the Olympics in Russia.

onions increase test and are currently in queue for the ADL hate symbols database

I’m not sure how you guys will take this, but I’ve used SARMs with good results. Can be used to cut and retain muscle mass or bulk and increase strength and muscle.

Buy it as Vitamin D3 specifically, and crank it up to 2000 IU per day, not 200.

Honestly I'd recommend any modern man over the age of 25 to get on a low dose of testosterone. Don't take my word on it though, read a ton before diving into something that directly messes with your hormones.

Highly fucking unlikely - curryniggers eat little else but onions and they're world-renowned renowned for being racing-snake streaks of piss.
When fag-ass TV chef say they're caramelizing their onions they're just talking like fags - onions are literally sugarwater with a hint of sulphur.

Any actual advice on roids? As in, brands, how safe they are, etc.

onions have been shown to increase testosterone in rodents by as much as 300% and if you throw them at jews you'll go to jail for hate crime. stop being a faggot

Show me the source for "increase recovery time" in a non creatine deficiant individual versus a 5-10x oversupplementation of such.
Vastly increased recovery times are usually achieved by very high testosterone levels.

Soyboys do not have mental retardation, soyboys are usually the ones that just follow the stream which on first level would show on certain outlining factors such as low testosterone and above average intelligence.

So your average soyboy unless it is a caluclating individual, has above average intelligence a certain cultivation factor (which means he laps up the general feminist crap) to minimize friction in his natural habitat.
The soyboy is like someone that knows in june the apples fall and he just have to pick them up along with the other soyboys.

I wonder about that, because most people in India also have rather poor diets, in that lack of protein and saturated fats from animal sources can stunt steroid/testosterone production.

cba to proof read
One thing these different models for human input optimisation have in common is "first do no harm".
It follows then that one should look at the food supply chain. Low and behold it is polluted badly. Xenoestrogens are mentioned already. But now on to excipients in foods. In many supplements for example they add silicon dioxide titanium dioxide and so on. In supermarket ready meals and in ice creams and so in there are many gums wich promote endotoxin burden. Hellmens light mayo has titanium dioxide in it….
Always better not to touch shit like that.

Also boron is estrogenic don't go more than 10 mg or whatever the units are (but you will get some from fruit anyway). Bodybuilders used it in the 70s or 80s then dumped it.
A dietry model often not mentioned in this region of the net is "anabolic men / danny roddy / ray peat". With regards to electric universe theory Ray peat and Gilbert ling theories. As an example they say red wavelength light upregulates metabolism and the infrared light was uniform when the ancients where under Saturn's rays supposedly. In any case, the huge oil deposits in the Arctic and likely Antarctic are hints that vegetation grew at the poles for a long long time. Which might imply lots of light which is great for all organisms. youtube.com/watch?v=tltb6Hin8jo

· Vitamin K2 – increases testosterone levels in several studies:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21894328

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15763078 - effects on estrogen

· Glycine – Upregulates 5-alpha reductase activity, increasing DHT, so acting in the opposite direction as drugs like finasteride(which have anti-androgenic activity):

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18367344

· Selenium – anti-estrogenic:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22128327

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16093440

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15833885

· Caffeine – raises testosterone, at odds with pastebin and pics posted earlier

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22349085

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20737165

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18458357

· Vitamin E – Acts as both, an estrogen receptor antagonist and an aromatase inhibitor, reduces estrogen levels:

Novel interactions of vitamin E and estrogen in breast cancer.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16091003

Is also a strong prolactin inhibitor on top of it:
Effect of vitamin E therapy on sexual functions of uremic patients in hemodialysis. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1490755

Here’s Ray Peat’s article on it, where he discusses it’s anti-estrogenic effects
raypeat.com/articles/articles/vitamin-e.shtml

· Taurine – Raises testosterone in a pretty significant way:
CSD mRNA expression in rat testis and the effect of taurine on testosterone secretion. -
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19921479

Taurine enhances the sexual response and mating ability in aged male rats
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23392896
stimulated testosterone production in aged rats

Magnesium – increases free testosterone(as well as blocks SHBG), here are some studies:
Effects of magnesium supplementation on testosterone levels of athletes and sedentary subjects at rest and after exhaustion
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20352370 raised free T levels by 24%

Magnesium and anabolic hormones in older men
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21675994


Magnesium effect on testosterone–SHBG association studied by a novel molecular chromatography approach
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0731708508005955 decreases SHBG

No thanks fam.

Someone explain the Jew onion meme to me, this is new.

redpill me on testosterone. Is it worth the trouble to lift/eat better/etc. to boost my T or should I bite the bullet and go full /trap/

creatine extended lifetime of some animla by nearly 10% in one study cba to find it

Will quitting pornography boost my testosterone at all? I've already purged anything with soy from my diet. In 2018 I want to go full high test and will do whatever it takes (aside from drugs).
I've been such a weak fucking sadsack this year that I can't stand the thought of going through another year like that.

Did your bull tell your wife that?

Try 5000.

ONIONS ARE GREAT COOKED THE ONLY GOOD RAW ONION IS ON A CHILI DOG
IN B4 fag FAGS SPOUTTING THE ASS CANCER MEAT HATE
fagS ARE low t HOMOS AND POSSIBLY THE ONES WHO STARTED THE ONION MEME

Eat meat and nuts and lift for fuck's sake.
Stop eating the cereal jew.

Onions and garlic are specifically recommended against by Ayurvedic holistic medicine, ie the most sacred Hindu scriptures tell the devout not to eat them. You've got it ass backwards.
conscioushealth.net/why-ayurveda-yogic-fodmap-diet-recommends-no-onion-no-garlic/

It wouldn't hurt to take a small dose of testosterone, you know. Women take extra estrogen all the time in the form of birth control. Bodybuilders have nasty sides sometimes but they take huge doses of the stuff.

Any kind in particular that's better than the others?

Wouldn't I have to be prescribed it?

Curryniggers eat onions non-fucking-stop regardless of your interpretation of their ancient scriptures, Buddha.

since when do you type the word V E G A "N DO FA"G COME UP fag

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19741313
>After 7 days of creatine loading, or a further 14 days of creatine maintenance dose, serum T levels did not change. However, levels of DHT increased by 56% after 7 days of creatine loading and remained 40% above baseline after 14 days maintenance (P < 0.001). The ratio of DHT:T also increased by 36% after 7 days creatine supplementation and remained elevated by 22% after the maintenance dose (P < 0.01).
Hi baldy.

You can get a script or buy it online. The legit pharmacy-grade stuff is more expensive but you'd be taking a tiny dose compared to a roid-head.

That's no reason to be cavalier about tinkering with a delicate biological system.

Ohh shit niggers how fucked am I?

onions increase testosterone and jews dont like them because they cause white men to become the antithesis of docile good goyim who are unable to flip cars over


soyboy detected

t. phonefag

Eat all the nuts: lots of zinc and magnesium and such, peanuts may be the worst due to soil depletion I don't know.
Nuts do have a lot of fat in them so don't go overboard - like 100g a day - eat lean meat and lots of green veg to fill you up.

its not about if those are impressive stats. its the rate at which you make gains while on them. i didnt change my routine at all but while natural in the months before the 2 month cycle i was adding like 5 pounds every month and a half or 2 to my sets of 5. when i started, i added 35 pounds in 2 months. and when i stopped i had permanently gained 25 pounds in 2 months instead of 5. then it only took another month to get back those other 10. that was when i was 18 5 years ago. i work now (physical labor) so i dont go to the gym much anymore but i still maintain a good physique between calisthenics and work. im just saying if you need quick gains, it is quite literally a cheat code. so if youre predicting a happening soon and dont feel physically strong enough its up to you if you still want to work "fair".

Women are also fucked up by birth control pills. Jacking with your hormones like that is not good, and all the recommendations here to take testosterone injections are ill advised. You're a nu-male faggot because you don't work hard. Taking drugs to try to increase testosterone without working hard makes you a nu-male faggot with a hormone problem.

Life weights or die.

Brazil nuts(nigger toes as gramps called them) are the best for test.

There's always one of you guys in every thread. user, the ball is in your court.

To be fair, i think a women should stick only to stamina training to amplify her curves and get smooth skin instead of enganging in intense muscle training, abs aren't very feminine. That whale however, no one should touch that shit with a 10 foot pole.

We should start a thread on /ck/ with Holla Forums approved recipes.

I get my (supposedly spring-) water from those bigger blue plastic gallons. How bad is that?

Should I switch to tap water and a filter? I know the average filters don't do much - are they a better option? If I buy a descent filter, should I get tap water from it?

I have 3-foot-long hair with barely a hint of male pattern baldness at 40 years old. Just like my paternal and maternal ancestors.
If you're some sort of a throwback neanderthal who needs to emphasize the headbutting percussion bones then dihydratestosterone may cause baldness in your phenotype.
You're correct of course.

More DHT production is a good thing, DHT is the most potent form of testosterone in the human body. The only reason creatine would ever cause hair loss in any capacity is if you were already going to go bald.

If the shits gonna fall out anyways, might as well speed it up. Less to shave that way.

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You dont add 35lbs of muscle, not even reasonable mass in 2months on prohormones not even on roids if you achieved a certain saturation point of muscle (means you werent starved). Also your endocrinological system (after you dropped 10lbs and a short time frame) doesnt recover in that timeframe so you regain the lost 10lbs (unless you are a soyboy that means he had 10lbs more on the scale).

Or you could do both. I know I'm not ever going to convince you since you're deadset in your ways, so why bother?

im talking about strength gains not weight gains. highlight my posts to see my other posts. i gained 10 pounds not 35.

Or, if you understand how testosterone works… you can circumvent this while increasing your testosterone levels and decreasing androgenic effects by taking steroids without androgens

Just stop masturbating so much and you will become more alert, no more brain fogs. Side effects include a desire for 3DPD.

Sry misread that, usually people refer to gains as an increase in weight not in strength increase.

STOP BEING RETARDED

am i the only one who considers guys who take steroids (or any dose of testosterone no matter how small) that arent competing in a sport like strongman or bodybuilding to be similar to females who wear pushup bras and dye their hair blonde? why is it necessary?


the opposite of*
there ya go, buddy

Swift as greyhounds, tough as leather, hard as Krupp steel.

Shit comparison. More accurate would be injecting fat into your tits that your body after a certain time duration decomposites.

everything you consume and put on your body is designed to leech estrogens into you. so id say your viewpoint isnt based on logic. would you not want your test to be what its naturally supposed to be?

Well you can say the same about creatinine. Guys who take steroids for cosmetics aren't men. I think the people at /fit/ have a broken mindset when it comes to that. But I think most guys feel like they are 'victims of environment' when they come to realization of all the shit that is in our food and water.

They then take steroids. It's all on prospective.

Nice. That blog is fucking legendary, been reading it for years.

I would check those dubs except if I cant jack off to porn at least once per day I am going to lose my shit. I live life one nut away from suicide, and its a daily battle. How about a vitamin regimen that counteracts the effects of mild daily masturbation. That would be content /fit/ for Holla Forums

Just got back from the gym after a two week hiatus. Everything hurts, in a good way. How we all doing?

raw onions on chili dogs confirmed for fast gains.

Sauerkraut and mustard also help prevent aromatization of T to E as well. Thanks sonic.

Eat an onion every day and you'll have ogre levels of testosterone in no time.

its not just onion, many of the original, native european foods are pretty gud. Garlic is another thing that the jew fears.

Is that why the Dracula films along with Bella Lugosi meme'd Garlic as a sacred herb that wards off the undead and evil?

I remember reading about some study, years ago on /fit/ about how onion juice tripled testosterone levels of rats vs those who had water instead.

I googled and found it
ergo-log.com/onionjuice.html
It fas funny at that time due to it being new research, no idea where it went from there. Better look up more studies

i dont like it when men of lesser genetic quality (of course there's much more to it than just testosterone but you get the idea) are able to appear as if they are better than they actually are. a person who is naturally high test is able to stand out from the crowd, but when the rest of the crowd artificially raises their test then the person who is naturally high test is not noticed as much by potential mates and you end up with the next generation of children being lower test because the females didnt know which males were the ones who actually had real testosterone.
imagine if you married a woman who you thought had blonde hair and then the baby came out with dark hair and she says "oh yeah i forgot to tell you i dye my hair". this is all very general but you get the point


yeah i guess if it's just enough to counteract the estrogen given to us by jews then that's fine

in a funny and roundabout way, yea it may be a thing of such beauty again. With similar language, but differentish intent it may be a tool of use against the jew (evil) these days. I only dream of finding those garlic pills once more. So potent they were.

if pic related hasnt been posted anywhere it needs to be

Only Queers, Would-be Queers and MGTOWs Eat Large Quantities of Onion.
Onions are full of sugar, make you smell like a niger and will make you diabetic and gay when consumed in large quantities.
Eat broccoli and other cabbages for sulphurophane without the sugar.

This isn't "original, native european foods". This is just fucking keto. Europeans ate BREAD.

Yes, why do you think all that Zink-deficiancy comes from?

Yep, we're here because we've refused to look at studies, because we instead chose to hold on to a belief like a woman due to our emotions.
Just get the fuck out fag.

these herbs and spices grew originally in europe, and we as hunter gatherers still have a biology that very much likes them. Even the farmers diet includes them a lot. Its not just "fucking keto". Its racially compatible, and extremely volkish food for whites.

seems if you eat healthy anyway, you can reduce the effects of aromatase function to produce estrogen (drjockers.com/the-7-best-aromatase-inhibiting-foods-and-herbs/)

Fermented viggies in vinegar or brine (pickled foods) should in the bottom of the image because they contain probotics and really anyone should able to make.

Completely avoiding sugar is a good way to eventually crash from adrenaline fatigue. Stupid and reckless

Sauce?

The anti-onion task force is working overtime it seems.
Shrek is love, Shrek is life.

Stop eating sugar, fatty.

I'm shocked.

raypeat.com/articles/

You wiill enjoy reading these well cited articles. They will change your views on everything

Begone crystalline kike.

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This onion shit is showing up in a bunch of threads. Those memes are forced and weak. I'm getting strong enemy vibes from it.

I'm at 6000.
I once heard Ronda Patrick is taking high dosages so I thought to myself why the fuck should I take less than a woman who studies this shit.

Son the joke is that onions were unironically found to produce high T in the other thread, so we associated it with Shrek because hes high T and loves his onions. Lurk more faggot.

20% real propaganda to get white nationalists and the like to have higher testosterone, 80% fun

This only works if it is applied as a general measure to the general population, and my initial point was that your comparison was shit.

Why is this extremely popular self improvement thread still up?
I'm notifying the mods immediately to shut this down.
This is not politics. These threads are not part of Holla Forums
:^)

Oy vey , shut it down!.

Good sleep for testosterone? Guess I cut back on the black coffee then.

Maximizing dht conversation is key

Eat as close to beasting feasting as possible ( Paleo keto more meat than cocnut)
If your gonna cheat eat "bullet proof" and or keto sweets
Fasting is good eating small meals going from fed to fasted state often is bad
Burpese and rucking is good
Any exercise is better than non, no gym is not an excuse

Herbs
butea suprba is great
Stinging nettle
Pine pollen
Ashwagna
Rhodiola
Maca (black is best lol)
Togat

Lost empire herbs has some good stuff. The owners are slightly faggity tho

Just eat and live a healthy life.

And a lot more! All in this link to this stolen PDF from toaist masters.
libgen.pw/download.php?id=808480

What is this a youtube ad? Where's the faggy upbeat ukulele?
Don't type like that non, it makes you seem like a shill who's not from here, which you probably are, despite this thread seeming reasonable.

Tea blocks dht conversion try herbal tea I enjoy pine bark tea

Biologist here, testosterone isn't the most important thing for men to be men, the most important thing is blood flow.

All our meat is filled with brine (salt water) to increase it's sellable weight, but this salt actually kills your heart and arteries. I'd reccomend everyone in this thread buy their meat directly from farmers you trust, recently slaughtered. I buy from the Amish and Mormons because they don't do anything with it.

This one thing alone will give you healthier circulatory system, which means muscles will grow faster (if you exercise), your brain will retain its IQ longer, your dick won't quit at 40, and many other benefits.

Testosterone doesn't have much effect past puberty except to make you horny. Any damage you had from low test has already been done, can't fix it without surgery.

1.Testosterone will amplify "hidden" traits psychologically speaking.
2.Testosterone will greatly impact muscle growth in general if it is induced exogenic.
3.You libido will most likely increase (or always increase), if your dick quits while having normal testosterone levels it is most likely a psychological issue or pathlogical.
4.Unnatural amounts of exogenic testosterone will have a negative impact on your heart (despite roid akne, bitch tits, mood swings) since your heart as it is a muscle will also increase.

6 (sense) boobanimals should be put into stables so they cannot welcome refugees or fuck shit up since they are mostly retarded from observated from a certain standard.

Yeah but it's not permanent after ~16 years of age, you'll have to keep taking it. And worse of all, the body will both reduce its production of it (testicle shrinking) and will grow resistant to it. You're talking about shots right?

Yeah cardiovascular. That's what I'm saying.

Where to find raw milk (if you live the US): realmilk.com/real-milk-finder/
Pasteurization cauterizes lactase and lactose, most of the enzymes, and kills good bacteria. Milk pasteurization began in the US once people started bringing their farm animals closer to urban to areas and feeding them malts, causing their milk to become blue. The grains also caused harmful bacteria to be grown. Grass, the natural diet of cattle, serves as a prebiotic to them, thus growing beneficial bacteria.

Also, milk impedes the digestion of meat, so you shouldn't eat it during a meal.

I forgot to say, you should get T tested in the morning. Before 9am.


Nolvadex works through binding to estrogen receptors but not activating them. It does NOT lower estrogen. When nolva/clomid are used in low T, here's what happens. The pituitary senses estrogen, and when it's low, signals (LH / FSH) the testicles to produce T. T is transformed to Estrogen, which goes to the pituitary and shuts off the cycle. Nolva binds to the receptors in the pituitary tricking it into thinking there's no estrogen.


Damn, thought it was a shop, but it's not. I'm surprised the roids don't show in her face.


Faggot, quit telling people to do shit that you clearly know nothing about. "A small dose" of testosterone won't do shit unless you are low because your body immediately compensates by not producing T.

If you are going to go on T, you are looking around 200mg/week which will put you near the top of the "normal" range.

200mg/week is about 4x the average level, not "normal" rnage.

How long should you wait? Say I just drank a lot of milk; how long should I wait before eating meat?

If you are not well grounded in your body and your mind then you have a weak foundation with which to shoulder the burden of the structure of tomorrow.

This is the most Holla Forums related thread you can make.

It all hangs off of inner and outer strength of mind and body.

Not everyone needs an AI, but yes I take one. SERMs are for PCT. I'm not on a cycle since I'm not doing this for body building or anything. I'm given just enough to bring my levels slightly above "normal" or "average" whatever that is and I feel fucking great. I'm an oldfag who had lowish test and now I don't. Feel young again and it's good.

Raw milk doesn't take that long to digest, I don't have exact numbers but it probably takes around an hour, considering how it has its own enzymes, and how all of its nutrients are in a bio-available form. If you eat meat first and then want to eat some milk, the waiting time depends on how you cook the meat. If you're eating raw - rare, it'll 3-4 hours for it to be fully absorbed, due to autolytic digestion. The cooking process destroys the enzymes in meat which digest itself, so well done would probably take around 6 hours.
The fiber in plant foods are digested by the bacteria in the gut, while the non-fibrous material is absorbed very quickly, so you don't have to worry about mixing fruits and vegetables with milk.

That’s not true. Adrenal fatigue is not at all unscientific. There are plenty of accepted conditions with much less basis in medical science than adrenal fatigue. It is known the body builds a resistance to high levels of hormones, insulin resistance, dopamine and serotonin downregulate and upregulate receptors, so the belief that the body builds a resistance to too much stress hormones is not some crazy theory. Adrenal fatigue is also not the adrenals producing too little, it’s the body resisting. Adrenal insufficiency is the one where you can see in a blood test the lack of hormones.

Thanks for the info user.

It's Okay to drink Milk.

They stop at the end of the supply chain.. Doesn't matter how hard they think they are, without support they die more quickly than they are trained to believe they will.

Testosterone Cypionate on the dark webs. Inject into muscle once a week 1ml and go up from there.

My dude

I'd go even further and say a bedtime of at least nine pm. Between 21:00 and 01:00 has been proven to be the best time for sleep.
Also you should consider sleeping on something relatively hard like the floor with some blankets or even a futon. Sleeping on a soft bed is terrible for your skeleton and is unhygenic (beds unavoidable create bacterial colonies while blankets can be easily cleaned.). You might be sore after the first nights but you'll thank yourself later.
What do you do about greasy hair?

Also it's okay to wake up from blue light. It's actually stronger than coffee.

The japanese futons are the best to sleep on. Not only is it great for your back, but you can roll it up in the morning and have more room space

By switching over to a natural shampoo and slowly lowering the days you shampoo. Everyday every, every other day, every third day etc. Your scalp will slow down oil secretion from not stripping your hair everyday with detergents.

How the fuck do you even get rid of a bed?

After three days, I'd be waterproof as a duck from all the grease. Gross.

How about sleeping on concrete with a sleeping bag? My nigger roommate has woken me up every day for the last 4 days by snoring or being noisy when leaving for work after only allowing me 2 fucking hours of sleep and it's pissing me off.

rub oatmeal in that shit or be like me and just shave your head to terrify niggers

Onions, an ancient enemy older than mankind.

SHITSKIN DETECTED

Women prefer to get their alpha fux and beta bux from the same man if they can. That's their ideal situation. They only get them from different men if they can't get a man who has both.

Lol I was just about to say this. Keto is great though.

None of the test booster supplements are things you can take every day for an extended period of time (or even a week). Your body develops a tolerance and adjusts down your natural levels to compensate. Read up on the HPT axis.

That being said, a lot of them are great for days when you need a little boost or for brunting test crash/cortisol spike that comes after a heavy workout. I've been taking longjack (Eurycoma Longifolia root extract, tongkat ali, pasak bumi are its other names) for years for this. Used to get it from beyond a century but now I get from powder city. You know it's good stuff if it's the most bitter thing you've ever tasted.

Also for most of these supplements you should be taking them sublingually rather than swallowing them. Place the powder under your tongue and let it sit there until it's absorbed. This will massively increase bioavailability as there is a high concentration of blood vessels in this area.

except is quite literally would hurt as your natural T production would lower thanks to your arbitrary usage of steroids. If you are going to use them accept the consequences and go hard don't be a retard and take a small dosage for no reason.

Who's talking about shots, Doctor Goldstein?

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this website anabolicmen.com
Fat is essential for healthy hormones.
lies about the need for quality fat in diet is one way they are killing us.
=bulletproof / paleo diet
grass fed butter / grass fed beef / bulletproof coffee
pasture fed eggs, quality whey protein, (non denatured, cold pressed)
blog.bulletproof.com (learn)
start ordering supplements that boost T, increase overall immune and reproductive health from iherb.com

my personal daily stack
morning,
Vitamin D 5000mcg
B6 100mg
L Tyrosine 1000mg
5htp 100mg
Organic Tumeric, (find a reputable organic supplier) 2x


(with dinner)
12.5mg Iodine (iodoral)
selenium 200mcg, (or 400mcg post sex / orgasm)
sunflower lecithin 2x (cheap form of choline support)
choline bitartrate / inositol (in one supplement)
zinc piclionate 50mg
copper 2mg (to balance zinc)
pygeum / saw palmetto
B6 100mg
L Tyrosine 1000mg
5htp 100mg

before bed,
800mg Magnesium (citrate or glycinate)
9mg Boron

Very Important: Support healthy Neurotransmitters, ie; serotonin / dopamine, to correct brain chemistry. When neurotransmitters are in balance the rest of the body heals. (adrenals, thyroid, cortisol) Search Dr Daniel Kalish. This information is like gold, invaluable
blogtalkradio.com/undergroundwellness/2011/12/02/brain-drain-with-dr-dan-kalish
(rough) formula to correct neurotransmitter imbalances is
L-Tyrosine 1000mg
b6 100mg
5htp 100mg,
take this formula minimum 2 times a day and watch your mental energy increase

Don't waste your money on supplements if you don't have the money. The best bang for your buck are zinc and magnesium, which are cheap as dirt.

unsalted grass fed butter = heaven for hormonal health

web.archive.org/web/20171119053241/https://blog.bulletproof.com/optimize-your-supplements/
magnesium citrate is very effective and cheap.
need minimum of 600mg per day, (before bed), to be effective
zinc needs copper as an adjunct for balance
high amounts of zinc are safe, (ie; 50mg), as long as it is balanced with a minimum 2mg copper, which is very cheap. Zinc Piclionate is best, most easily absorbed form

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It's amazing but the only problem I ever have with it is my face smells like butter the rest of the day. But eating this on a nice toasted croissant feels like I'm eating my enemies. Well worth the price.

Use cultured butter. You'll thank me later.

blend 80grams of it with coffee (made in an aeropress) and a teaspoon of coconut oil, (or MCT oil, from a clean source), add organic cacao powder / vanilla = tastes like heaven. Repairs and builds hormones, feeds the brain energy. puts you into Keto which allows you to fast for the majority of the day. Breakfast and lunch are skipped, appetites / cravings for carbs / sugar, are drastically reduced

Tara McCarthy = fag moron
Please do not listen to this stupid bitch on anything about diet. On other subjects she is OK. Men need animal products, anyone that tells me anything remotely to the contrary is a literal faggot.

My BernieBro co-worker seems to think that altering your testosterone level and trying to raise it is "dangerous and hazardous". Those are his words. He seems to think that I am obsessed with raising it, he seems to think that I'm damaging my health by having "too much testosterone."
This is a communist faggot. Do Normalfags think in the same terms?

Everyone ITT: gay!

"cultured", butter does not matter so much as whether the butter is grass fed. Grass fed butter has a balanced fatty acid ratio which is the boon for your health. Deformed and altered fat products (ie; processed / hydrogenated, etc), are the reason for so much illness

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Funnily enough I actually already do this on the rare chance I drink coffee(maybe once or twice a week). Unfortunately I don't think I'm able to skip breakfast because I'm 6'6"/190lbs so I've have to eat quite a lot daily to gain weight.

I won't argue with you on grass fed. I think it's more important than cultured. If you have the choice to choose cultured, though…

Well, it really depends on how you use your Testosterone levels.

this, "bernie bro", is a communist, R Selected bottom feeding ant person. He and his ilk will die out shortly.

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This post mentioned that tinned tuna was okay. Why? Is tinned salmon and sardine okay as well. I'm wondering because without milk or the softened bones found in tinned sardine and salmon I will become calcium deficient.

whatever you do, DO NOT, listen to this stupid bitch Tara McCarthy, on anything to do with diet or nutrition. She has no idea what she is talking about. She may be right on some issues, but on this one she should be vehemently ignored and/or, rightfully ridiculed. Men,as the arbiters of civilizational survival and maintenance, NEED animal products, anyone that tells you different is misguided, and / or delusional.

calcium deficiency is not the demon we think it is. I wouldn't worry about it. Sardines are great but grass fed beef is a nutritional powerhouse, along with free range / pasture fed eggs, and a very pure form of whey protein. Dr Mercola has some good information about this, as well as the Dave Asprey / bulletproof diet links I have provided. Nutrition takes a while, but those two sources of info will help a lot for you.

Stop being a beta and do not listen to women on anything would be a better option.

Do you think that's fine even if I'm not trying to lose weight? I get most my energy from fats anyway. Thanks for everything, user

I was talking more about the BPA in the tins. Due to my location grass fed beef is not an option and I prefer fish anyway

i know that poltards lack it

you should be skinned and burned alive

t. low testerone betacuck

truth hurts i know

t. low testosterone betacuck

truth hurts i know

this is an excellent diet and source of quality information about nutrition. Many other sources have much the same information, albeit slightly different. There is a fairly general consensus that a similar paleo style diet to this is the best there is, (at least for me).. Certainly for hormonal health, boosting T naturally, this will work wonders.
Ben Greenfield is also a great source
bengreenfieldfitness.com
Chris Kresser
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No, we aren't leftists or le edgy centrists.

yeah i think its great. Once your hormones are balanced through diet higher in essential fats, everything else balances out and you can stray from it a little more. It also pays to get a variety of different sources of information about nutrition and health and to catalogue this info, research etc, create pdfs, join Email lists, YouTube, Forums etc, are all useful. I also highly recommend using selected amino acids to rebalance depleted neurotransmitters. I cannot underestimate how useful / powerful this is, in fighting the war. Depression, anxiety, mental illness are ALL, connected to an imbalance in nutrition and neurotransmitter depletion. They cost virtually nothing and the benefits are extraordinary. Dr Daniel Kalish has some info about this. I've embedded a lecture specifically for doctors using this treatment. It is a bit boring but if you can sit through it it may help. Also, Organic Tumeric supplements are an absolute godsend for your overall health and wellbeing. There is no denying this. I take 4 a day, 2 in morn and 2 w dinner, (even more if i'm sick.) also, another quick hack if you are ill is High Dose Fish Oil. Dosage is (EPA 2.4 grams, DHA 1.8 grams per day)

There sure are a lot of salty alt-left here lately.

JUST
All in the name of ogre T levels, I suppose.

how bad are shampoos/soaps anyway? I already do most of the other shit on this list. Eat organic, buy from local farmers etc but how bad really is the shampoo?

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In Chinese 5 elements, umami and strong spicy flavors (not hot) such as from onion AND garlic are considered the Metal element, which in many cases are associated with Senior Yang or a fatherly masculinity vs the Junior Yang of Fire, which would be a masculine youth. Fire will fight you and beat you, but Metal will just try to kill you or kill your fighting spirit. Fire = Bitter and hot flavors. Earth is Tao. Water is Senior Yin. Wood is Junior Yin.
Fire generates Earth gens Metal gens(contains and conserves as in concentrates) Water gens(nurtures but requires Sun and Earth and pruning Metal) Wood gens(fuels) Fire. Fire melts and shapes a la forge Metal, Earth blocks Water, Metal chops Wood, Water quenches Fire, Wood constricts and binds Earth.

I think the next step for Holla Forums is to incorporate esoteric knowledge from around the world and many different time periods into their methodology. One way to verify Chinese metaphysics would be to take the desired goal of MORE FEAR to boost your amygdala, and look for the answer in Chinese metaphysics, then test the answer. In this case, you would go to bazi-calculator.com, enter your birth information, then look for the 7 killing element and cultivate that specific element. It's restricts your native self-element and either kills you (die a little or a lot) or turns you into a true warrior. Yang Metal is THE warrior element (7 killing), no matter who it is though.
So look up both of those elements online, on a site that isn't a pop news emporium of shit, and then try to become more like said elements.
Elements are just non-arbitrary ways of dividing up reality into useful parts. Mathematical (technical) precision can be too precise, so we have more macro-sized mental units called elements. The larger the mental unity, the more you can associate, organize, mold, craft, etc. It can also mean more work to get a desired result, as a macro concept like an element requires biasing the entire nervous system in order to process it completely. It really is just a matter of scale. Quantity ≡ Quality. This also means you can change the functioning of your nervous system, glands, muscles, etc aka macro changes via macro concepts. Macro physical changes ≡ Elemental changes. All a matter of scale.

A warning sign for garlic… toxic mold. Toxic, organic species are often beneficial by boosting one's ability to respond to the threat. Including toxic molds.

Only way to fight the establishment's war on testosterone and muh xenoestrogens.

You don't and shouldn't need honey anyway. Even people who swear by it say you shouldn't consume more than a spoonful. As said in the thread, honey producers unfortunately get bees to produce honey from red clover pollen which is high in phytoestrogens.


Onion is only good in moderation anyway. High levels of onion can be poisonous. But the real problem with people recommending onion en masse is that they're not even recommending the best onion - red onion. Red onion contains lycopene. Lycopene is a man's phytonutrient. Red vegetables and red fruits signify that they contain lycopene which is a plant pigment.

That's cool and all but men should be more self-reliant than this. "Only way to fight" is fag shit.

If you want to boost masculinity, get ahead of the Holla Forums progress curve and bleed on the edge of glory, soyboy.

The most common type of tycoon and high-achievement oriented individual (public office, business, etc.) is the Yang Metal type. aka Warrior type. Either that or they have a lot of 7 Killing. Statistically. Yang Water [ocean] and Yang Earth [mountain] are the other richest types, and is the most common internal composition (in the rest of the chart, not just the self-element).
I use the kevinchanbazi.wordpress.com/ website to find out shit about this. Check out the categories.
The president type is often Yang Wood or has something to do with nurturing Wood though (Yin Earth, Yang Fire [sun] or Yin Water are the next most common birth types of US presidents). Yang Earth is the most common internal composition. Internationally, Yang Wood and Yang Metal are the top two for national leader types (based on birth info). Yang Earth is still the most common element in their charts though.

DHT is useful for burning off estrogen because that's what it's made for but it is created through an automatic process. In other words a man will make DHT no matter what, and DHT is created by leeching from your testosterone, and produced from the adrenal gland. Most faggot hipster soyboys have lots of DHT because they keep stimulating their adrenal gland from their caffeine habit. The most common side effect of high DHT is hair loss.

Now you know why they are low-T, balding, effeminate freaks. Whatever testosterone they do have is turned into DHT in a hopeless fight to burn off their elevated estrogen.

In Chinese metaphysics, the cause of balding is often weak Water and Metal, and overly strong Fire. In terms of organs, the Large Intestines and Lungs aren't strong enough to withstand the Small Intestines, Heart, Triple Warmer and Pericardium heat, and thus can't keep a healthy concentration and circulation of Water for the Kidneys, Bladder, and secondary systems, such as the hair. If the fire is balanced but still strong, then you get curly hair.

Dave Asprey goes into significant detail about mold and mycotoxins. I'm sure he has made reference to mold content and garlic at some point.

bump any links to a nazi german physical fitness manual hopefully translated to English?

Didn't see it in the thread but cold showers give you a boost as well as reducing inflammation and a bump in metabolism.

I'm an ascetic so I don't generally believe in hard limits that can't be hard broken. Anything that tries to kill me is a challenge to be overcome. I recall a story about a king that acclimated himself to all known poisons so that he would be unkillable. It worked too. He started with microdoses and incremented.

I have read that you can use apple cider vinegar to wash your hair and body. this is what the romans and greeks used.

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And here's an alt tao clock with physiological phenomena.

try 25mg, but everything else seems pretty gud

Lowtestpol is more your thing.

What about linnen clothes and all that?

Be black, that gives you the most testosterone.

Use redshift

Wrong.

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Have you noticed how weak and fragile do modern teens look compared to 30 years ago?
In fact, testosterone levels go down 1% each year= 10% in a decade.
If we don't stop the contamination of our youth, in 20 years we'll have a West of hermaphrodites, defenseless against invading hordes and mentally handicapped like a woman.

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I'm on 250 grammes a day now (250,000).
Feel better than ever. I usually mixed 250g in with two glasses of full fat rhino milk and make a kind of D3 porridge.
Alternatively, you can cut the D3 into slices and have it on some toast.

Always trying to be in the dominant position is what gives you the most test. Never submit or be submissive and your T will sky rocket. If you're being cucked by depression you dominate the bitch. If you're being cucked by anything you dominate it. Now you're in the F-100 of T. Balance that shit with no stress via turning your domination into a zen state.

Children now spend their first 10 years of life nearly sedentary. That's what must be changed immediately. Diet is important too, but these foundational developmental years must not be squandered in doors sitting and looking at screens any more than is necessary for their basic education. They must be challenged physically and develop the foundation for full resistance exercise before they hit puberty.

Stop drinking tap water for sure, it's full of estrogen.

No country filters it, we know how, but it'd cost billions just to filter one of the common molecules from birth control pills that ends up in water with every pissing woman. For now it's not even considered, because if it was, all tap water from all western countries would have to be considered undrinkable.

We know it makes fish in rivers fucking gay, fish are womanized more and more, leading to their extinction in some rivers because there aren't any males born. It's also highlighted as a direct culprit of the rise of prostate and breast cancer, directly linked to an estrogen overdose.

Only drink natural spring water coming from high in the mountains.

Fat people are higher test to a degree of fatness before all other hormones get outta wack

To prevent this, it is best to drink women's piss directly from the source.
That way you can build up an immunity.

"Whatever works" is a Jewish mindset.

Fuck off shitskin

This universe is a meme.

Now you know why Alex Jones is the case example of disinformation plus stigmatization. Because of his stigma, people believed all of the concerns for what's in the water (fluoride plus xenoestrogens) was just "alex jones" talk. It's why to this day CNN keeps using him as a representative for what the alternative news says, i.e. If Alex Jones says it, it must be fake.

Water itself is something that has to be purified and then restored to containing electrolytes and minerals. Then everyone has to learn to drink their weight-appropriate amount in water. Approximately 2.25 liters per 150 pounds of weight is needed just for sitting around and doing nothing but breathing - we lose water just by breathing. More water is needed if you're drinking caffeine, taking medications, megadosing on supplements, and of course exercising.

Filters can't do much about estrogen. At least, not your conventional filters. You need some high tech shit that isn't consumer available right now, and only to remove a tiny part of it.

There are four main estrogen-type medications (estradiol, ethinyl-estradiol, estriol, and estrone), about a hundred phytoestrogens coming from plants depending on the area, tens of thousands of xenoestrogens in the form of household items, cleaning agents, pesticides and food containers, like the infamous bisphenol A… and then there's an entire class of anti-testosterone chemicals.

Some of those will actually be removed by filters, but most will go through. Filtering your water or switching to mountain spring water remains a good thing, because we're fucked anyway, there's no solving this issue now and all we do is mitigate it however we can. Same as mass-produced beef filled up with antibiotics, vegetables full of pesticides, meaning you should be eating organic, cleaning products slowly poisoning you which you should replace with nothing other than olive oil soap, bleach, salt, vinegar, baking soda, soda crystals, borax, citric acid, trisodium phosphate… it's a never-ending struggle to fight all this shit. Sort out your priorities, do what you can afford to do, but do something because there is certainly much to be done.

But as said, it's not because AJ says it that it's false. Of course he's selling water filters, so he does all he can to convince people that the quality of water is more important and urgent than other issues. It's only a matter of priorities, I myself worry about food more than water, because even tap water is great where I am, while the food sucks, but clearly water should be a concern to everyone.
When it comes to water, I'd myself recommend mountain spring water over filtered water, the plastic bottles they come in are safe now, it's going to be cheaper than a filter, plus you can swap springs once in a while because it's never good to keep drinking the same water from the same source, so you get a variety of minerals. I'd even recommend drinking some tap water once in a while, just for the sake of minerals and bacteria diversity.

Fucking idiots contains fenugreek which will wreck your dht levels it is shit. To the person who suggested ashwaghandha fuck that shit it totally fucked up my sleep and theres no real conclusive proof it is any good just a few shill studies. Don't trust any of these shit products and herbs guys just go natural heres how.

8 hours of sleep at least 7 this is very important. Eat real food eat stuff like steak always with fat on it! Every sex hormone is created from cholesterol, eggs, butter, fruit, vegetables and even bread i dunno FISH you need the iodine and magnesium always wild caught obv nothing farmed be careful of the nightshade family lots of people are allergic to them without knowing it. Things to avoid licorice, mint, beer, FLAXSEEDS! all anti androgens. Obviously train you can just do bodyweight. The only 'supplement' I take is tsp oof cod liver oil contains vit A, D, E and omega3 but make sure its a good source and not rotten.

FFS guys there's a bunch of salesmen in this thread don't listen to their bullshit Don't trus anything that isn't natural it will fuck you up in some way guaranteed besides all of their overpriced bullshit is nothing compared to steroids which you might as well take if your going to take some bs.

The problem is the leeching of plastics in your plastic bottle creating xenoestrogens so need glass bottle or filter it or something. I'm torn on what is better between the two I'd say the plastic xeno depending on where you are. If you live in a place with decent tap water I would go with the simple charcoal filter like brita over the plastic bottles.

What exactly is wrong with metal bottles?

Que? You can't buy water in metal bottles… I don't know that theres anything wrong but there probably is glass is always king.

Obviously you're filling the metal bottle with water you distilled yourself.

There's no tap water on the level of the average spring water, except maybe France, Iceland and Japan, and then those countries have natural spring water that far surpass their own tap water, not to mention high as fuck standards. Good spring water will be better than anything else.

Also modern plastic bottles from big brands are quite different, most are clear PET class 1, that are using less and less PET as they are combined with plant-based plastics. Meanwhile in shitty countries, you can still find PVC bottles.

Ideally, live near a spring and fill your own glass bottles, but for now you can trust plastic.

No you can't that pet bullshit was bullshit they say to make people not worry about it. IT will still leech of bpa if it has come into contact with sunlight, which it has.

No. France is destilling per to tap water in some cities because they don't have any good spring water. Germany in the other hand banned flouride and in many communities their tap water IS directly taken from spring water. In one instance there was quite the scandal when people realized that an Spanish bottled water company just took their product directly from one village's tap water in Sauerland, Germany.

I meant to say "France is destilling PEE to tap water in some cities."

BPA is used for hard plastic, like polycarbonate, not clear and flexible ones. It's mostly used in reusable stuff, whether sports/hiking type water bottles, tupperware-type food containers, and various plastic plates and cups.

There's never been BPA in disposable water bottles as far as I know, nor even in fruit juice bottles, which tend to be harder, but whose acidity makes a bad mix with the BPA class of plastics.

I hope you realize that pretty much every single drop of water has been pee at some point, and you've been drinking gallons already. Still that's a myth common to many countries, but that's certainly false in France: water is pumped from springs and water tables, filtered, treated, distributed as tap water, then filtered and treated before it's released into rivers, before it eventually gets filtered back naturally and ends up being pumped again. That's what everyone does, because it's cheaper and more efficient to have part of the process happen naturally, than treating it end-to-end, but regardless, you're still drinking pee.

Which is also why they treat ALL water, whether it comes from the purest spring or the dirtiest ditch, and so does Germany to the best of my knowledge, because they have such high as fuck standards, it's simple as that. You may think it's "great" to tap directly into spring water, but it really is idiotic, it's just devoid of some pollutants, but then it has many others, and it MUST be treated.

France also certainly has some of the best springs, especially in the Jura/Alps region, and shares some with Rhineside Germany and Switzerland. Ever heard of Evian? Well, you won't hear about the rest because they hardly export, but they do have great springs. Even in the Paris region, which originally was one huge fucking swamp, with a big river in the middle, and huge water tables, and you can find three high quality springs right in the middle of the city pumped from deep tables, which you can actually drink or refill your bottles from for free. And that's strictly Paris, which really is a small city, because the huge megacity built around it has a lot more.

Be aware that the acidity will erode the enamel on your teeth to some degree. Moderation.

topical application is the #1 way to take in nutrients by far, which means its also the #1 way to take in harmful shit. The shampoos you get from walmart, etc. have a laundry list of toxic shit that is turning you into a faggot/giving you cancer. Shampoos and deodorants (containing aluminum) are by far the two worst culprits. Fun fact: most skin cancers occur under the armpit…. hmmm..

I tried your faggy nopoo meme and my hair fucking fell out. Thanks for nothing.

I use pic related for shampoo. The only thing it has labeled that was mentioned in the pastebin is proplyene glycol. am I alright to keep using it or is even that too much?

What is this ching chong shit? you know they literally shit in the streets, right?

You only really have to worry about tooth decay if you're not getting enough vitamin k2 in your diet, are over-exposed to fluoride, and don't drink enough water.


The worst offenders in shampoo aren't even the xenoestrogens. It's the detergents. Look for a shampoo free from parabens, all forms of sulfates, and especially phthalates. Phthlates are so dangerous it can delay puberty and drastically hinder any development.

It doesn't sound like this one has any of those. The ingredients list says it contains "Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Lactic acid, Potassium chloride, Fragrance (Parfum), Disodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, PEG-150 distearate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Propalyne Glycol, Lonicera Caprifolium (Honeysuckle) extract, Methylisothiazolinone, Aloe Barba-densis Leaf Juice (aloe vera)" and some dyes

Nothing stood to me but I'm autistic enough to research the other ingredients and so I suggest you do the same. Sometimes the fragrances and the dyes can be bad. Needless to say this is especially true for food dyes and fragrances.

Cool! You found the cure for hair loss, hope to see you in forbes top 50 soon!

Next time yo bitch ass wants to eat breakfast like the little piggy you are, remember it's called BREAK FAST for a reason.

Avoid alcohol!
Eat animal fats and cholesterol!

Shave your head, erase all your hair problems. Wash your whole body with pure imported Marseille or Alep soap.

Is he a shitskin or tanned?

Saw Palmetto is apparently good for blocking DHT

There's nothing wrong with that, as long as your metal water bottle does not contain an anti-corrosion lining (like cans do). Most stainless steel metal bottle don't.>>10927935

He thinks testosterone = agressiveness as the kikes wanna make people believe. Testosterone is more self control, sharpness and strenght etc.

There as a post on theredpill:

I really never understood why people downvote and blast people who comment the importance of healthy testosterone levels. There is no reason you shouldn’t get the test done.

If cost is a problem you can go to privatemdlabs a website that allows you to get the blood drawn at a local doctors office and you get the results without your primary doctor knowing. IT ONLY COSTS $85!

Once you receive the score I urge you to try raising your score naturally. There are plenty of natural ways to raise test. Squats, eating red meat, eggs, more fats, zinc, etc. Don’t jump into TRT without doing research and talking to a doctor. Also, don’t treat yourself make sure you're under doctors care.

Before getting the test done I was 22 (142 lbs) under 10% bf. Very active going to the gym 5 days a week.

I recently went through the process of getting my testosterone looked at and I had a total t level of 320. Some say that you can naturally bump it up which I did try. However, after a few months, I decided to talk to a doctor and was put on TRT. My current dosage is 150mg every week and I feel great.

Some of the biggest changes for me were:

-sleeping through the night (used to wake up at 3 am every night)

-extreme sex dive

-more focus and energy

-higher drive and competitiveness

Physically I haven’t noticed a ton I’m obviously a lot more cut but not like steroids. You don’t automatically get ripped you just are able to put on muscle where in the past it was harder. You notice that you don’t get as sore that next day after a hard workout tho.

47/M here.

I've been on TRT for the past 1+ years, and on low-dose HGH for the past 8 months, so I'll throw in my two cents. I'm done having kiddos, so less worried about some of the side effects.

I've been through a pretty massive transformation over the past 22 months or so. I had dropped 50 lbs. and gotten my diet and lifting on point before starting TRT. So freaking glad I did.

That said, TRT had a major definite improvement on several areas of my life. Having a few months on just the TRT, it pretty clearly had the following effects (in my opinion): 1. Better results from my workouts. Stronger. Increased muscle mass. 2. Increased confidence and feelings of dominance. 3. Lowered my voice, in a good way. 4. Increased libido. 5. Even with HCG, my balls did get a bit smaller. This is a small price to pay for me, given the overall benefits to my sexual health. 6. I swear higher testosterone makes women "want to be near me" in ways they don't quite understand. And I believe higher testosterone levels may even increase a woman's liklihood to orgasm. Not humble bragging, but women want to be physically near me and they just orgasm much more frequently for me than before TRT/HGH, and obviously especially before my transformation. This is a BELIEF on my part. 7. I think it has given me a stronger chin? The weight loss obviously contributes too. 8. Had to add Anastrozole (AI inhibitor), as my estrogen got out of whack when I first started. No biggie.

Then, I added HGH to the mix. All of this through a local men's clinic. This stuff is like magic I swear. Takes a while to notice, but I believe it has given the following additional benefits (again, in my opinion/observation): 1. More frequent morning wood. 2. Leaned me out. My body fat is definitely in the single digits these days. Striations on my shoulders. Visible six-pack. Insanely vascular now due to low body fat, and some genetics. Strong jawline. People in the gym really comment on how lean I've gotten, and especially when I'm pumped from a workout. As a 47/M, even lifting hard 6 days a week, I don't think there's any way I could be as lean as I am without HGH. 3. General feeling of well-being. Not sure how else to describe it. I just feel really great.

So, other than some ball shrinkage, I don't think I've had any negative effects from TRT or HGH, other than to my pocketbook. This is also medically supervised and above board through a local men's clinic. I get blood tests done every three months, and keep my test levels around 1000.

Again I've put in a ton of work in the gym and with my diet, before even starting this. But adding TRT and HGH just massively improved the results I get from my work.

I honestly plan to stay on this for life, as I believe it improves the quality of my life in more ways than just the physical benefits I've listed above.

Hope this is useful. I obviously recommend it for people my age that may be experiencing low T. I have no opinion on whether its good for younger folks, especially if they plan to have kids in their future. Just sharing my experience here.

So far I've lost 75 lbs. My waist has gone from 46 to 34. I was literally a dadbod loser before starting this journey, and now my teenaged sons tell me I'm "jacked", which is high praise to me. Happy to post some before/after pics if there's interest.

Back to lurking now. LOL. Cheers.

Edit: forgot to mention improved skin, and something about collagen production, both from HGH. Again I do my squats, etc. But I have a somewhat round ass now, instead of a non-existent one. I was told HGH might help in this area, and I believe it has.

Edit2: before/after pics as requested: imgur.com/a/GlsvS

Don't forget testosterone is bad for your heart too :^)

I don't think the photos work anymore, but that guy looked before like a cuck and now like an Alpha

IF YOU ARE OBESE, TESTOSTERONE WILL HELP YOU MOST

It's good to lower your DHT especially if you're a caffeine drinker but don't do it too much. You can use rosemary oil or rosemary shampoos to block areas of your scalp where the hair is starting to thin. Again, this is best for every other day since DHT still has a job to do which is burn off estrogen.

Reddit in a nutshell.

USE FUCKING POWDER

Pills are too expensive for what they offer. Buy directly the powder!

You're retarded my lad, do you realize how many gorillions of gallons of water there are on earth?

Drinking water?

Fucking hell really? Can't I just make up for it in other ways? I just don't want my hair to thin

So I have been thinking about making a chart about aromatic inhibitors. The natural ones first, and then maybe add in novaldex, and some things used in the PCT.

But…should I add avoidance to the charts?

there is a huge opportunity right now to make a chart like this since the soyboy meme is getting huge traction. Even without it there is still an urgent need for such a thing since many people now know about the 50% reduction in sperm count, and 60% reduction in test.

Should I make such a chart?

What I seek most is that very rare research that I saw once, but failed to save (or even look into) in one of the threads on /fit/ that mentioned that the dosages from plastics are significant. I took it by heart…well because of the flow of the thread it seemed to me that it was given to the thread at that time out of good will. Jews have a hard time to give misinformation at these vital points lol.

srsly though. What should I include in this chart?

Sea water constantly evaporates and then rains into fresh water.

and I am thinking about propelling novaldex as a form to treat all of this. Not sure how much of the natural crap I should add to it tho. The charts that I make are usually very crude and have lots of elements "borrowed" from other sources lol. Though very huge.