Joining the National Guard

Are any of you in the National Guard? I've been looking into it and it seems too good to be true. At first I thought the pay was shit, but it looks like my BAH would be over $2000. Is that accurate? You only have to go for one weekend a month? Plus they'd pay off my student loans, and I can put veteran on all my job applications because people worship soldiers.

What do you guys think?

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BAH is for full-time soldiers.

Do you have a source? Seems like it doesn't require that


I don't want to be poor.

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They pay off your student loans accrued from the date that you were first eligible for military benefits. They don't pay for student debt you had before then. Also, many schools (Or rather, the loan agencies that use you for financial feudalism) hate people getting a free ride, because they can't milk you for the rest of your life.

Most of them will put bullshit fees on you that are not classified as "tuition" and are not covered by the Nat Guard because of that. We're talking like fees for using the building that your class is held in, "activity fees" that don't actually go towards the department that handles student activities, housing fees even if you live off campus, etc. If you really, really want to go to school though, National Guard offers the best way to do it, financially, out of all the branches. Also, you have to go to a school that is in the state of the Nat Guard unit you're a part of. If you're part of the PA Guard, they won't pay shit for you to go to school in NY. Also, fuck no you don't get BAH. That's for active duty guys who have families or otherwise rate to live off base.

Yes, it's one weekend a month, but sometimes it can be shit like Thursday to Sunday. You'll make maybe enough money per month to pay your utilities or internet bill or something, depending on how much you spend on gas to get to drill. You also will do "two weeks" every summer, but in reality it's as long as they fucking want it to be. The guard is also so shit that when they do a workup for a deployment, you do like a month and a half long basic 2, electric boogaloo, but in the middle of the desert. Be prepared to be surrounded by shitbags, too. My brother got promoted to fucking NCO meritoriously after less than two years in, simply because almost nobody else in his unit passed the fitness test.

This is all second hand from my brother, but I myself served in the Marine reserves and dealt with similar shit.

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You get BAH while on active duty, which for national guard is during training and when you get deployed.

I highly doubt your BAH would be over $2000. I'm an E4 in the Navy with dependents and my BAH is $1566 a month. I guess it all depends where you would be living.

If you're thinking about going National Guard you might as well go full AD and reap the benefits.

Nasty Girls is a good gig during peacetime, but if shit kicks off they get used and abused worse than Active Duty. Consider it a gamble; if there is peace you win, war you lose. If you want my opinion, just go Active Duty in something like Coast Guard or Air Force for 4 years, get an MOS/AFSC that can be done in the civilian world, milk that shit for training, then get out and get a real job in the private sector or as a federal civilian. Don't go into a service/field that could get you killed ffs, be smart about it.

Ah it looks like it's a flat rate for guard and reserves is starts at around 544. Thanks for clearing that up.


I live in Seattle. I looked up a San Francisco zip for fun and it was like 4k.

What is AD?


good advice, thanks.

What do you mean by nasty girls??

National Guard.

thanks user

Oh shit no wonder. Yeah the BAH is typically proportionate to the average rent in the zip code you're living in. I'm on the other side of the sound (Kitsap County) so my rent is super cheap.

Go for it. There's no greater honor than becoming a green nigger and sacrificing your life for G-d's chosen children.

AD means active duty, nigga. Did you even set foot inside a recruiters office?

No. I came here to ask you guys first.

Don't do it

Be forewarned, recruiters are like militant used car salesmen. Don't trust a goddamn word they say unless it's in clear, signed, writing. Know EXACTLY what you want, and do not sway from it.
Also, the recruiters have zero authority over you, don't let them push you around. You aren't US property till you sign on the dotted line, at basic training.

Fight on, O Warrior of Zion!

You technically become US property when you sign some paperwork at the recruiters office, but they won't do much if you fuck off.

Also, recruiters don't have shit to do with your contract. understand the process before you jump in.

So realistically id probably make at best $1000 a month. Right now I have an ok job and it would only be an additional 12k a year. I think I am leaning against it. Thank you for the advice anons.

My ID is all over the place because I'm on my phone btw.

Your school would, not you. You're going to make like… 200 bucks a month, minus gas and MRE's. Yes, you have to pay for the MRE's they give you for field drills. Plus haircuts and razor blades.

National Guard is best for people who want to serve in some form or fashion and still want the hurr durr soldier glory while not having to leave their cush ass job. I tell everyone, fuck it, grab yourself by the balls and make a four year commitment. Its. Just. Four. Years. Plus the benefits you'll get from being a true veteran far outweigh that of just being National Guard.

No matter what branch you enlist in, you can go to college FOR FREE while you're active duty and you can get security clearances and learn technical skills which you can take with you when you return to civilian life.

Dubs don't lie

I currently work at Amazon and make 35k a year, probably just over 40k soon. I am almost done with school anyway. I'm wondering if joining the military with a college degree would be better than staying at Amazon. I thought with the national guard I could maybe do both.

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if you go in as an officer with a degree then it's a completely different experience and a hell of a lot better. i would wait until you get your degree. there's a massive difference between going in as an E-1, and an O-1. Your basically going to be sweeping floors and cleaning bathrooms for the first couple of years enlisted. As an O-1 your going to immediately be a platoon officer after training and all that and the level of bullshit your going to have to deal with (waking up at 4am everyday for PT, standing in formation 30 times a day for no reason, playing bullshit games, etc) is going to be 1000 times less.

the pay as an officer in the military is going to be a hell of a lot better than amazon. your going to start out around 35k a year, and your going to get a housing allowance, BAH, on top of that as an officer, which goes up with rank, which doubles your pay.

If you go enlisted then your not going to get BAH unless you get married, or you advance to E-6 in rank, which isn't going to happen in one enlistment, that usually takes 6-8 years. Your also going to start out living in the barracks making 12k a year.

I'm not a veteran, but I was around during the gulf wars. Apparently, the National Guard isn't trained really well, they don't have proper equipment, but they were deployed anyway. If you are going to war, you want to be prepared for it. Maybe things have changed since then. But if it were me, I'd rather join a service branch that would prepare me for what they are going to have me do.

And don't ever trust the recruiters.

Non-American here, just curious.
You keep saying he may be sent to war. Can't he take part in the National Guard for the benefits, then not participate when they call him? With a "valid" reason if need be. Fake sickness, etc.
What would happen if he declined a call to war?

Not an option.

if they don't report during a real war they either shoot deserters or guillotine them. during peace they send them off to leavenworth.

Vaguely possible if you're a scumbag welfare queen with no morals, but likely to get you caught down the line.

and right after
Glad to see the white race will have top of the line rock raking POG faggots when facing off against the brown hordes.

pretty much this. Im CPT in the Army with 7 years in and make 85k. You get screwed with late hours as an officer but less fuck, fuck joe games. Also its 30 days of leave a year and a 4 day weekend a month. But plan to spend anywhere from 60-100 days in the field a year depending on your unit and to deploy for 9 months every 2 years or so. And to die for the Jew.

this also massively depends on the state you are in and if they fund the national guard much. I would stay away from liberal state guards.

The National Guard is pussy shit. You can't call yourself a veteran if you're just in the fucking National Guard. You're one step above cop. Though, it would be fun to tear gas hippies and communists, this doesn't happen anymore.

What said, your duty would be to enstate Martial Law for Judea. Would you really want to be legally FORCED to do that?

What it like being in a family of welfare queens?

oh my kek, welcome back. It brings a tear to my eye to see recruiters on 8/pol/ again, I thought you guys gave up on us lolololol

Joining the nasty girls is probably the quickest way to die from friendly fire or sheer incompetence. Not to mention the razzing you'll get from literally every other branch. Even chair force makes fun of the NG.

That said, it's also probably the best way to get an ez boot experience and free training if you can get into the right trade. The chances are good that you'll just get shifted into some paper-pushing rock-washing job, but there's also a chance you could be sitting behind an unloaded .50 during a nignog riot. Apparently in Baltimore there was only one contingent of NG that were actually distributed ammunition.

If Holla Forumsacks have the keys to the armories, what exactly will the jews be able to do? Having Holla Forumsacks in NG is probably a smart move, all in all. It's just a shitty job.

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