Final Fantasy 11 and 14

So, if I were to pick one, which one and why?

I've heard that FF11 is more difficult (and as a personal draw has a diverse list of cool summons that are fucking awesome, huge and powerful while being very MP intensive, like how they're portrayed in the original games compared to FF14's tiny ass pet monsters), but has a better community (and is complete as far as content is concerned), while FF14 is more casual and is still pooping out content.

I guess the question is, why shouldn't I pick FF11 over FF14? FF11 still seems to outshine FF14 despite it's age.

It's like they initially set out to make a game that they had no idea how to make, yet so much love was put into it, while FF14 seems to me like a bunch of japs were put into a room and told "make WoW but with final fantasy shit".

However, the combat that's based around getting the fuck out of the attack zone when it pops up does seem to make it BETTER then World of Warcrap, and the effects are at least completely beautiful.

Is this true to you, does it match up with your views, or do you disagree?

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FF14 is blatant wow clone with anime skin.

FF11 is outdated clunky piece of shit, that is at least something original.

If you absolutely want to choose one, go for 11, but really they both suck for different reasons.

Do you really need to format like this?

It looks more neat and tidy.
At least it does to me.

I heard XIV bombed hard, but it did in the most amazing way any vidya ever could. Vid related.

No, this does not match up with my views. FFXI isn't worth playing anymore. They trivialized the shit out of almost all the content in the game by increasing the level limit by 25, introducing item levels, giving you strong equipment as soon as you hit 99, and made the gear increase your attackspeed to the point where they had to chance how job abilities work on some classes because job abilities decreased your DPS. Right now Dancer is worthless because jobabillities shit on it's dps and aren't worth using anymore even though the class is designed entirely around job abilities.

If you even considered FFXIV, you deserve FFXIV.

If by bombed you mean it sucked so much shit that 2 years after release they shut it down in the most spectacular way possible by dropping the in-game moon onto the planet and wiping all characters away as a result.

I kinda wish I played the shit version just to experience it for myself, it think its cool how they turned the server wipe into lore

From what I read, some evil dude basically pulls a Sephiroth and summons the fucking moon to the planet in an attempt to destroy the continent. Each patch leading up to the last day of the server showed the moon getting closer and closer to the planet until the last patch brought it so close that all areas had the weather changed to storm and the background music was replaced with a girl muffedly singing lines from a song.

So I guess he succeeded? The game had to get trashed from the ground up basically just to make a better game because I heard the first version really was that bad.

This guy is right, XI is dead, the 99 level cap which you can get to in a few hours and the full party of NPCs you can summon just kill the gameplay. There are some private XI servers out there that are 75 cap. The most well known one I think is ffera. They have all of Zilart and CoP working I think, and some ToAU. It's been quite some time since I played on a pserver so I don't know how much more updated it is. Era has custom content as well as a pretty healthy userbase as private servers go.

There was a guy here on Holla Forums who was running his own server. Not sure if it's up or if anyone plays on it. RIP Mithrabutts.

Per-line looks like fucking shit.
Cry "muh reddit spacing" all you want but goddamn does just the one line-break give my eyes a fucking stroke.
There's nothing to gain or lose from this and Reddit spacing's a meme that only started within the past month or two and before that it wasn't a problem, that it's only ever brought up by people who sage should be everyone's first clue.

off topic post but i've been doing it for years and suddenly it just gets hated.


on topic post: fucking goddammit. Hopefully there's a big community or at least one that's friendly.

In a sense. The moon actually turned out to be a seal for Bahamut who breaks free and nearly wipes out the continent until some old dude steps in and attempts to seal him only to fail. Then as a last ditch effort he sends all adventurers (players) some years into the future (A Realm Reborn) where Bahamut is no longer around.

If you look at old videos of FFXIV the combat is so fucking slow and there's not much effort to strategy with bosses. FFXIV now actually requires teamwork with fuckheads to make any progress in end-game raids. One mistake or one death is almost always a wipe. Was actually fun if you didn't have retards in your party that either can't follow directions or do proper skill rotations for best DPS, or fucking both.

the Era server is filled with filthy XD Reddit scum, when I played on there I just used the LS to get groups and that's it.

extra on-topic post
FUCKING GODDAMMIT


I'd still take a system like FF11 which took chances when they didn't even know were chances.

It has a general feel of WoW with a gimmick, whereas FF11 relied heavily on buffing and debuffing, elemental weakness exploitation to do xboxhuegfuckyear damage, and when i've checked out videos, actual tactics, like a classic tactic where you solo a guy as a summoner by summoning an avatar and then fucking ditching his ass while it deals damage, then using Ethers and shit and buffing up to summon another one and repeat.

The PvP is actually kind of like this from what i've seen, what with mages casting Bind or Paralyze to get some room to buff and debuff.

It's a lot slower but that methodical type of shit is right up my alley, while FF14 looks much more fast but also more brainless like WoW.

Less style vs more substance, or more style for less substance.

God I miss old MMOs.

FF14 I mean

Oh yeah FFXIV is pretty and shit but if it isn't a raid or a hard-mode boss then it's absolutely mindless when doing the same dungeon over and over. I played DPS and switched to tank to ease the repetitiveness of it but even that became mindless despite pulling all mobs up to each boss.

Did you time travel to 2004? It's not that way anymore.

I'm actually playing FF14 at the moment when time allows.

There were issues with the Server and my health has been dipping pretty bad, and work was getting awful.

I've been following Darkstar's development though and waiting for the next stable release (as stable as it gets) I'm actually talking to a guy in trying to get the server backups and try to host it on a physical server this time, should get the backups this week if they still exist.

But essentially, shit got busy, server got shutdown for reasons outside of my control. On top of composing music for a game, and shitty shifts.

I haven't forgotten about the good times though. Comfinity should be back for those who want it.

I'm okay not playing on comfinity again if it means you don't RIP in real life my man. If you do it again, make sure to set that 75 cap so Kat doesn't fuck everything up again.

The LVL 99 raise was quite point of contention for a lot of folks. When I relaunch, I think I'll try to keep it as Vanilla as possible. Maybe lower the Xp gain too.

Last I checked, I think they fixed the skill bug.

Ps. I miss everybody. You guys were great to play with.

FFXI is always good times.

The new patch was pretty good for XIV, despite re used assets. I'm talking entirely about the new 8 man raid. 24 man's are utter cancer for retards that think they're Savage MVPs

XIV had a lot of promise but its pretty much gaurunteed dead now.

There was a shit ton of production value earlier on with new assets, quests, dungeons, etc. every patch keeping things interesting because the game itself was very, very basic as it had to run on PS3 hardware. Still it gave one hope for the future of the game.

Heavensward looked to be that hope but quickly proved not to be. I'd wager they severely cut the team's size as the entirety of the game is now token grind and they're copy-pasting resources like no ones business. Moreover they still made the quality of the game (zone size for instance) low enough to where it could run on fucking PS3.

Supposedly that support is getting dropped next expansion but after recent comments about not changing the game's direction I really doubt its going to save it from the slow death the game has coming. Its a shame, it could have been the next MMO giant but I'm willing to blame it on squeenix greed yet again.

tl;dr don't bother with XIV, while its initially somewhat interesting its dull as shit and has no hope of a decent future.

That's a bit much, I heard very good things about the most recent patch. And from what's being said, the game is Sqeenix's most profitable game and player counts have gone up. That and each patch has been decent to great.

Though, I'm pretty sure the team has been halved due to FF15, with that almost done and the next expansion dropping ps3 support. I don't see the game dying anytime soon, especially if endgame content is as solid as it has been (raids, dungeons, hardmode dungeons)

Sqeenix doesn't seem to be dropping support, add will keep adding content (even if/when player counts drop) they love their cash cows.

Though, I do hope the next expansion changes things up a bit. Then again I did like the latter half of heavensward a lot.

But I will agree with you, less recycled assets would be nice.

All in all, I would suggest OP try the trial to LVL 30.

you never even replied to my emails you cuck, i sent you like 3


hey its not my fault the level wasn't properly capped.

also, i told mithra almost from the very beginning that the exp rates were too fast, but nobody listened, and the bullis rushed all the content leaving us new guys in the dust.

i gave a look to the other Dark Star servers like nasomi and era, but they all seem to be full of SJW thought-police that will ban you for having some friendly banter, or they give you 100000000 gil to start with, there's no fun in getting all the hard-to-get stuff so easy.


ackshually the level cap was 95 (the last genkai was bugged the fuck out), that was as far as me, aloriel and friedrich got, we were the last 3 remaining players until i moved to official neo-XI, of which i got bored in just 2 months.

but the server was way too incomplete and buggy all over. the only one that was actually trying to do things in the test server was Bell but i think he lost interest pretty quickly seeing how everyone left. the FoV/GoV books kept breaking on every update, and then there was all that WotG content that didnt werk. and of course complete abandonment from butts

i miss you faggots too, im bored out of my mind

Understatement of the year.

Is the trial only for new accounts, or would abandoned accounts below 30 get to play to 30?

The complaints were quite the opposite, people were burning through content too quickly, and it didn't help that the new-ish content just straight up didn't work.

I spent nearly a month fiddling with LUA with a friend of mine to get some of the broken content working, but every new update from the Darkstar guys had some faggot going into the core and changing shit, nullifying specific functions entirely, requiring me to understand the core a bit more intimately (which is difficult, considering it's spaghetti code written by russians)

The issues with the server I was having was a combination of the code being garbbo, disagreements with certain perks being enabled, damage not being adjusted (or tracked right server-side) and a change in infrastructure I couldn't do much about.


After shit started getting real on my end, I dropped everything, I'd apologize some more, but I'm a huge faggot who can't sucking dicks

It was fun though, running through the stuff that worked.

One thing is for certain, when I decide to re-launch shit, I'm just gonna make a thread for suggestions, and write out all the requirements (that I can reasonable make) ahead of time.

Stuff like mats in the auction house beforehand, and other basic scripts to get around the broken content.

I think I'll just deploy a straight up dev-server to have people test and a more direct-line of contact, though I can't promise I'll be as active on account of a lot of shit going on, at least on my end.

Though, as usual, the more Darkstar fixes, the more shit gets broke, but it'd be nice to have a far more stable platform to fuck around on.


I think it's only for new accounts, but I think accounts that are under level works too. The one thing I hear though, is to not use the trial through steam, since it doesn't allow you to carry progress over, because Sqeenix is retarded.

My biggest concern right now is getting a physical server (specifically something beefy enough to run both FFXI private, and a PSO server I've been fiddling with)

Though I'd have to get something relatively beefy, running both linux and windows instances separately.

PSO (once I get that working at some point) Is relatively low maintenance, since most, if not all of the content works, but I'm getting ahead of myself.

As for getting the backups, I think it might be good to start fresh, on a slower-paced server. I don't know, I'd have to make a separate thread in the future to get everyone's thoughts.

Another thing I'd like a make is an actual Wiki with actual changes, and consistent instructions for installation, I did reach out to the guy who manages the manual updates, and he ended up fixing the broken one's he uploaded, which would speed up the installation process considerably.

AAAAAAAAALSO, we had 20-30 people. Thank you very much :^)

(but I get your point, polite sage for the doublepost)

we never had more than 10ish people online even if we had more than that amount of accounts registered


Comfinity 2.0 when?

XI isn't harder. It's grindier. The skill ceiling in XI is so low you could bang your shins on it. Everything's just gear/time/RNG drop rate gated.

Weekends at the start hit the high 20's though the average was around 10-15 people. Which is why I'm semi-excited for a working PSO server, since it seems to work better with smaller player numbers, more casual to play too.

Though in FFXI's case I was working on a script that would adjust damage/exp with player count, but in the end I scrapped it, since it would change the values, but would require a server reset to do have the changes stick, didn't seem practical.

I wish they had the AI party members working though, it's the only way I can think of smaller player counts working in the long-term with Vanilla damage and EXP rates.

the trust shit? god no, don't add that

The hard part I guess would be not being a total cunt because everything required a group and you didn't want to alienate people. Of course no matter the population size cliques always form for some reason bully pride worldwide. I remember on the Darkstar test server there was only 15-20 people and half the server was from Holla Forums and man did we hate the non-Holla Forums LS. Fighting over HNMs every server reset, which was often because it crashed all the time.

I don't they're ever gonna add it or complete it in any meaningful way anytime soon, so there shouldn't be any concern.

Just racking my brain as to how I can adjust the server to compensate for the lower player count, keep it slow, yet possible for people who can't find a group to get through non-instanced content.

The only thing I can think of is have a slight EXP multiplier (like say x2 or x5) and maybe a damage bump of 1.5. Though there can still be weekend gatherings I guess.


We were a bully-free zone. WE WERE ALWAYS A BULLY-FREE ZONE

i tried farming a mythic in oficial and gave up at around 2k alexandrite. it was awful.

I have years of playtime in FF11 and 2 more years on WoW. My youth was literally spent playing vidya and looking at lewd doujins.

There was a cornucopia of doujins for FF11. Sadly the same can't be said for FF14.

The game was bad. Really bad.

As in, I went into XIV 1.0 right after Aion, and Aion was a better game.

As horrible as the game itself was, Dalamud's descent made up for it. The singing came from the crystals, which were the direct connection to the planet. The planet was literally softly singing to her "children" to soothe them of their impending death.

The lore regarding it was really fucking awesome. I have no idea what happened for 2.0's lore to be so fuck-awful until Heavensward.

That's because XI was 90% waiting around with a green ! next to your name so artists had all the time in the world to porn it up.

i played a free trial back when it came out and it was decent, it reminded me of FFXI in playstyle.

i wish they had never done that shit with the moon, at least they could have come up with a better game afterwards, but nah, can't take risks right? gotta copy wow and get dat money, fuck vidya, fuck passion, fuck hobbies, its all about money.

The original sucked ass.

As a FF11 player, and someone who saw the toll that FF14's development took on an actual good game, it made me feel so wonderful seeing the game fail so incredibly terribly that they had to drop the fucking moon on it and literally burn the entire thing to the ground.

That's because it was like XI.

Except, you know. Not good.

Dammit, I just want an MMO that isn't like WoW and doesn't suck (which means it isn't like WoW by default.)

FF11 seems to be the only one that fits the bill, what with having an actually unique summon system that isn't afraid to help you go beyond other classes in damage in certain situations, an optional pvp system where you fight as a monster, a ginormous and necessary buff and debuff system that defines the game more then regular damage roles, basically just being a final fantasy game in MMO form, not a WoW clone with final fantasy flavor.

It's one of the most profitable MMOs of all time from what I gather, and people decided to copy WoW?

Fucking

Fucking WHY

I hope that when you die, you gain access to all of man's creation, and that you can play with other souls like they were different worlds, like a virtual, full-body game. That would be my ideal heaven, I would relish the conflict, because even bliss would get boring in the afterlife when you have all eternity to spend.

FFXI was a niche game, it was slow, hard, and unforgiving. The people who loved it REALLY loved it, others absolutely hated it. A niche game takes time to make money, and waiting is for chumps when you can just shit out a WoW clone that literally everyone has played before.

The best sort of MMO, i'd say.
It acted like a filter, those who loved it loved it, and those who hated it hated it.
So only the lovers were there, friendly, willing to party, willing to pay attention to eachother.

I've been in many MMOs and canceled them all, or just hung around FTP ones without spending a dime.
The main issue was decidedly the game itself every time.
It was too easy, too familiar and too accessible. No filter, no real care, all solo. People pass each-other in the street without a thought because every class was strong enough to get by on their own, so others are never needed.

And even when they weren't strong enough, there's always some NPC party member to cover for your weakness.
Time and time again it was back to the grind, but I'll remember the exceedingly rare and fleeting times where people gathered and just talked. Not a single thing in that useless area but people. Sometimes, I convinced a person to join. But then nothing, it trailed off before we could even find some rare monster to kill or something.

FF11 seems to me like the vestige of an age where people were together. I feel like I was born just a little too late to see this thing, this interaction, this fun.

Were they ever fun, Holla Forums?

...

I miss Neriwasabi.

all i can say 1.0 terrible
2.0 base game without any updates is somewhat eh but after that everything is completely uphill from there

also Ffxiv music is pretty gud

FFXI.

Comfy NM hunts to this day have been some of the best hours of my life spent in an MMO. The boner achieved from getting a Kraken Club 1/2 from LoO is MINDBLOWING.

Last time I tried playing XI it was pretty barren and everyone was either doing Abyssea crap or skill up parties.


Now that's an understatement.

Actually it has been around half a year already and there is truth behind it.

How goes the raiding Holla Forums? Topping your server's DPS charts?

so i decided to try the free trial like butts said and after the typical square enix "10 hour download", this is what i get, every fucking time.

remember the first time i tried installing comfinity? remember that butts? looks like i gotta do it again because SE can't make a simple launcher even if the fate of their company and all of japan depended on it.


for KC to work your level had to be a multiple of 8, 75 is not such a number. you'd have to intentionally keep your level at 72 for it to be good, and that means you'd miss on all of the endgame lv75 gear.

Jesus fuck Sqeenix. What's the fix? Manual install?

Wait, there was also a maintenence. Fuck tho, never seen that withe ff14s launcher.

They are both hands down the best final fantasy games since the 90's. XI feels like a PS2 emulation which it technically is. Its slow, aimless and if you like to explore this shit is your jam. You have to buy maps to zones and spells and of the two it has way more jobs, but the trade off is its now in 'maintenance mode' and the population is something like 100k worldwide across all servers so personally i adore it but cant warrant the sub anymore now its a ghost town, but if you never played it before and like the relaxing grind of a jrpg then its a great FF game.

FFXIV on the other hand is "what if blizzard didnt stop giving a fuck about wow after wrath of the lich king" so its combat is more movement and actioney instead of XI's attempt at making the atb system go mmorpg. being one expansion in the world is smaller and theres less jobs but its the runner up sub mmorpg in the world so its impossible to go 5 seconds without seeing another player anywhere in the world.

Both have different but fun gameplay, great stories and characters and the two best mmorpg soundtracks ever made.

Trouble is the give and take. XI is 14 years old so has a fuckton of content compared to XIV, but XIV has ques on some servers bigger than the entire server pops of XI's servers.

I'd say try both since they like all FF games offer enough unique to stand out but XIV is the one with a future in the longrun which sucks for XI but either way i think they are both really fun multiplayer rpgs.

did you type the error code into jewgle

That said, if you are going to play one game then play FFXIV. Even the devs of XI said they can't roll any more content out since they don't know how to work the ps2 dev kits and they can't afford to break any more since ps2 dev kits are rare as fuck and they said outside of one or two floating around they have all the dev kits avaible. The devs outright said they are not adding new XI content outside of changing numbers for balance.

yes i did

well at least now i can say i tried it

waiting on dat comfinity 2.0

FFXI is dead

11 is just everquest with ff paint

what game doesn't have kill this etc please tell me.

No shit, the first 17 levels are the equivalent of the tutorial level. No shit an MMO makes you kill shit at the end of the day. Have you ever played an MMO before? At least this game doesn't require you to camp a mob that only spawns once a rl week (EQ1) or require a full party of 8 people at all times just to complete the story quest (FFXI). Every MMO is going to have this shit.

are there any everquest private servers nowadays? or is that game even deader?

Check out Project 1999. Very impressive population and locked at Velious.

FF11 can be played like a single player RPG but gameplay wise its pretty bad.
FF14 is just a polished wow clone with a lot of neat little things story wise but its still a fucking wow clone.

From what I played of Project Gorgon is was surprisingly fresh though it still has hard tab targeting combat with a shit interface.

But go on, I like hearing opinions from people that have never played either game.

gorgon is 3D runescape, or at least, an attempt.


alright sir, you've earned this huge internet check, for being a complete retard who never even managed to install the game.

kek

You can solo a good deal of content in FF11
Or is that multiplayer just because you are online and you use some retarded definition of the word?

Please keep going. I want to see how much you can talk out of your ass.

I'd tell you you're missing out but that is still a massive grind.

Disregard what I said, for some reason I read FF14. I stopped playing FF11 midway into wings of the goddess. What a sad state of affairs when you can now solo most of that game.

if you're talking about the rotting corpse that is modern FFXI, yes.

we're talking about FFXI before it became awful.

I stopped playing WoW after BC so I don't know how "fast" they get.
You are still using tab targeting, doing daily activities and crafting meaningless shit to be replaced at higher levels. The comparison to WoW was not a positive one. The MMORPG parts are easily the worst ones about the game and any amount of polish in that is just lipstick on a pig.

To me it sounds like you got tired of WoW and now hate the genera entirely.

I hated WoW when I played it. Its the worst way for the genre to go and the fact its stagnation remains over a decade after its release only makes me more mad.
FF14 has good content, if only the formula wasn't just a fucking WoW clone.

I'm still a little butthurt his bird doesn't play this theme.

i heard there is a project to make a private server of FFXIV before the moon landing.

what has been of it?

it's still being worked on, albeit at a slower pace.

I think they have it up and running, but it's buggy as shit.

say what you will about the FFXI private server software, but a good chunk of the game is playable.

yeah, in Comfinity, we were able to play all the way to Rank 10 (i think) of the main story, Rise of the Zilart was also working very well, but ToaU was broken as fuck, which means we couldn't farm mythics.

sure, a lot of the small stuff half-worked, but thats only because butts was a hackfraud jk butts is gud

Dead Game with frustrating camera. Controls were designed for console too. But if your'e happy to solo and can deal with the shitty controls the underlying Game is good.

I guess I missed out. I just like the muscular catgirls in all honesty.

again with the "solo" shit?

have you people played the game beyond the valkurm dunes?

Yes. In current year it's a solo game. The only people in parties are Multiboxing

reisenjima and delves are not soloable for the most part. and thats about it.

i keep forgetting im talking about oldschool while you guys are talking about adoulin and beyond, its just tha tthey don't even feel like the same game.

fuck it, im playing again

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see you vana'diel chocobo boys

What the fuck is up with this server, it's barely recognizable as XI. I'm sure it's fun and all, but damn talk about piling on the custom shit.

FFXI was great but I heard that in recent years it has been casualized to hell and you can solo most content. It's also a ghost town.

FFXIV is kind of a WoW clone but it has a lot of neat things going for it. Very pretty looking game, too. Tons of players.

However, the regarding the most important aspect:
Mithras > Miqotes

well user, as you know, all private servers use the dark star stuff, and there's a lot of things that don't work there yet, since they work slower than a drunk snail. so i guess to compensate they added a bunch of custom shit.

im gonna go try Nasomi oldschool now, i dont dislike valhalla but it has like 20 people online

so its like this

>FoV off

i think i can do without FoV, Nasomi it is then anyone wanna join in? i play red mage

There's Era too, which is

They also have an optional "mentor mode" which is 1x exp rate and no FoV pages, but you get access to special gear stores and field buffs, meant for people who want classic retail partying.

If you can get some people from here or some RL friends to play with you that'd be great because it's filled with Reddit XD people.

ok comfinity when

I was going to play on Nasomi, but the fact that nothing works combined with hearing about an incident involving people getting butthurt about someone speculating on item prices correctly made me not want to bother. I can just play on retail anyway.

too fast, i want the game to kick my ass and make me work for the privilege. Comfinity made it quite easy. also ur a bulli


retail has gotten really bad, the exp is crazy high and well, its all about maxing those job points now, level is irrelevant because you hit 99 in a couple hours

also what do you mean nothing works? im asking seriously because im barely level 4 so i dont really know, so far they've told me that ToaU jobs work, but not the expansion itself. they've also told me no dancer and no WotG (which i frankly dont mind)

Retail has gotten really realistic with regards to the number of players still actually playing the game, level is irrelevant because the majority of people playing the game already put in the time to level, and it's not something that can or should be a hold up anymore.
It's also the most realistic thing because forming traditional parties works when there are 1000+ people on at any given time, but becomes complete and utter shit when there are barely a few hundred.

During the brief time I was trying that shit out, emotes didn't work period, worms slide around instead of going under properly, and every time I logged in, my character would continually try to /heal for a time. I'm sure playing longer would reveal quite a few more things like this as well.

There's also nonsense with the way the owner of the server chooses to run it. I've heard it's not that ToAU doesn't work, it's that the owner decided to make everything there Lv99 for some reason, and broke a bunch of middle lands mobs when playing around with it. And again, the straw that broke the camel's back was the incident where an individual bought lots of Peacock Charms because Argus was left as a 1h NM, then raised the price when it went back to its proper era pop rate. Other players got a severe case of diaper rash over this and the admins fucking jacked the PCCs from his account.
I can't possibly play on a server like that. I'd rather die.

I'm just thinking of doing comfinity 2.0 on a different Server, only downside is it'd be out of my own pocket.

And it would from scratch too, guy with my data never got back to me. Though I'd need some suggestions on rates, damage, shit like that. It'd also be LVL 75 max too.

hm you might have a point, emotes were deactivated because they somehow "crashed" entire zones (someone in a linkshell told me so) and apparently you can only use the pre-loaded plugins, everything else (windower included) is "not allowed". even though i dont know how do they detect that stuff. its a shame but nasomi people seem to be way too rulecucked.

what about Dark star classic then? has less people, working FoV, same classic x1 rate and they aren't complete tumblrina rulecucks.


i dont want the server to last 1 month and then you suddenly vanish again and the server dies, sorry m8 it was fun and all but unless you guarantee you'll dedicate time to it i'd rather go play rulecuckasomi or deadstar classic

i was checking era and they're also chock-full of "custom content"

Yeah, I'd most likely just run it very passively for the time being, rebooting if needs be, and stuff like that.

Active adjustments and script/custom content implementation would be a bit of a time-sink. The only thing I can think of is giving full server admin rights (along with instructions on server access) to a trustworthy NEET to run things while I'm dying of non-NEET life.

didnt you do the same last time?

Nah, I just gave someone admin rights within the game itself.

I didn't give anybody server access, you couldn't really execute much with the rights I gave. The biggest issue would be the zone server crashing, requiring it to be reset, or the login server crashing, requiring it to be reset.

They're one line commands, but you need to be in the terminal on the server to do it, via SSH.

i'll most likely pass, as much as i like the idea of an Holla Forums server it's not good if you can't dedicate to it

why dont we just pick a server and play in there? it'd be easier on you

Fuck off, Randy.

That's pretty fucking cool, I must say.


A Realm Reborn is one of the absolute all-time greatest video game trailers, ever.

FFXI was amazing as it was one of those "obtuse" MMOs that damn near required a party for everything after level 15 and as result had real weight behind something as simple as traveling from one zone to the next, but has gotten raped by patches, nerfs and the levelcap raises by now, but has private serves now so you can play it for free, the UI also kinda shows its age. Dancer is the best class in the game BTW and can solo a insane amount of content easily.

FFXIV:ARR is basically WoW during WotLK era to put it bluntly and got a surprisingly good story, as in better then a number of the "real" FFs. But the multiplayer aspect is basically DUNGEON FINDER PUGs unless you gonna "Hardcore Raid", where the difficulty makes a steep as fuck rise.

However the XIV controller integration is probably the best one of any MMO i played and it is comfy to play casually and it is beginnerfriendly to the point it makes Cataclysm WoW look like Dwarf Fortress in comparison.

It is the epitome of a "Theme Park MMO", but it does the Theme Park part VERY WELL compared to the contenders, if not for the fact that "REAL" MMOs are basically dead it being one wouldn't even be a bad thing.

shame the game is just a japanese wow.


every NPC in XIV has a big ! above their heads when they have something for you to do, its the very definition of lazy ass themepark appealing to lazy people who need handholding to win.

you were right, i just learned that the Mog Wardrobe also has been deactivated.

i can take no FoVs
i can take no emotes
i can even take no ToaU for the sake of a classic style server
but no wardrobe? where am i supposed to store all my cool items to gearswap on the go?
and they're also saying that windower is not allowed, even though im not sure if they have a way to check whether you're using windower or something else, the fuck nigga how is windower a bad thing

that does it for me, fuck nasomi. i'm not sure where to play now, era is 2ez, valhalla is too weird, and DSP Classic is too dead, every good priv server is shitted up by something .

That could mean a lot of things, can you tell me about that? What's weird?

If you don't have a personal nostalgiaboner for 11 it would be wise to take the opinions of people that do with a grain of salt.

There really isn't. Not when it's spergs trying to fit in by crying REDDIT SPACING when an OP is simply more structured and easy to parse with paragraphs. These are the same people whining about "template threads" no doubt.

did you read the list of all the "custom content" on the server? give me 5 minutes, i'll log in and take a picture

here's the servers "custom" area, every single one of these NPCs is intended to do something like augment your gear, make jobs learn passive traits from other jobs and others, you can find the full list in their website

im trying out Era now like said

holy shit this is fun

this is pretty cool, i gotta give it to them.

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT

MITHRA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MIQO'TE

its bastok presidential office isn't it?

i dont know why that didnt upload

not bad, not as much people as nasomi, but i think its just enough, and nasomi is way too broken.

There have been private PSO servers for years, since before the official ones were closed.

Ru'Lude Gardens - Jeuno

;^)

shame the game sucks

Name my band

Nothing wrong with that statement at all because it's a known fact and needs not to be debated

is that adoulin library?


i got confused because of the building, how could i not notice the tile pattern

He's talking about when Kraken Club was his drop and not Octave Club. I did the kraken BC 40 times after they changed the drop to that but no luck.

Moogonna Chocobitch

anyone wanna join me on Era my char name is Nel

we should all play on mentor mode

Oh, I know that, I've just never hosted my own before. It'd be nice to have running.


Wait, so what Private server are we all jumping to?

Era? Valhalla?

What.

IF COMFINITY WAS STILL AROUND, THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

Fuck, I just wish I had a server rack in my own home. Though I do have a spare desktop, I'm afraid my own uplink ain't all that great though.

Never have i felt a sense of dread in a vidya before or even afterwards. When you first got to this point in the game you knew shit was about to go down.

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FF as an mmo never made sense without the turn based action. I was really looking forward to that. What I got, at least with FFXIV is the most generic MMO shit ever. FFXI was difficult to the point of ridiculousness. You needed such insane investment that, well, the infamous boss raid that took hours and hours should tell you more than enough concerning that. Of course, that was a long time ago. Not sure what it's like now. It had some interesting concepts for sure but modern MMOs never take risks but I can't blame them. The few times they did with MMOs Grando Espada (Sword of the New World), even though it had the greatest MMO soundtrack of all time, it still bombed. The most popular MMOs are all themepark bullshit clones. This the truth of MMOs. That idiots want to play the same shit over and over again.

Kinda late to party but…

Is it a cuck or is it a pleb?

Make a LS for anyone from here that wants to join you. I have a char on there so I might log in tomorrow if I got time.

That wasn't meant to be beaten. It was made to convince the turbo autists to go outside.

You do know that's over, right? PC only now.

but the UI and controls are still shit

Seekers came out for PS2 in Japan.

And I should really check my facts before I open my stupid mouth.

I'm guessing you just found out consoles are no longer supported.

This

After playing XI for almost 12 years and trying XIV for the past 2 I can say I will never get that satisfying experience that I got from XI. XI for me brought a lot of great friends and alot of great memories. I was part of a Linkshell that ranked highest on our Server and got to do every HNM during its Relevant Time of Release.

Sometimes I miss logging in to play with BLU but ever since abyssea dropped and people figured you could burn anything easily the game shifted.

Gear became easily accessible and elites rose and fell due to nothing separating their perceived "Skill" from someone who would dedicate time to get gear that would put them on par or better than someone who was gifted gear for being with the group. (Things got easier when we realized you could lock a buff such as SCH 2hr or a Primeevil Brew by just clicking on a chest or any cutscene)

Jobs and Levels meant nothing because it would be no real work once it was discovered optimal ways to level in Abyssea Ex. I would sit and AOE Crawlers using a Small Shield for hours solo as a PLD/RDM

Things like Hard Caps on Enmity Generation fucked up as Damage and Heals got higher and higher, normal tanking strats didn't work the same way anymore and it was easier to blood tank everything with overhealing and high DPS Burns.

I never really stayed for the last set of expansions when stats started going insane. I assume it brought a different set of problems while attempting to solve others.

I don't think I can ever go back to XI and I don't think I will keep playing XIV for much longer unless a good expansion with some solid content drops.

Goodbye 4 Years and 8 Months logged in game time.

Horseshit, I've always called that garbage out.

bump

well, from what i've evaluated, Era seems to be the most working one with the least amount of rulecucks and the 2nd biggest private server population.

nasomi is too broken and rulecucked
valhalla is dead
DSP classic is deader than valhalla
retail is awful and you have to pay

so yeah, i think era is the most complete one and it has a little advantage: the Mentor mode, which lets you experience the feeling of getting your ass kicked by the game at 1x exp without decreasing the augmented droprates.


i'll try, whats your char name?

Linkshell made on Era, named "Comfinity" in honor of butts and his forever broken server, may one day he be a neet and dedicate to it fulltime ;_;7 really butts, no offense, but if you only have 2-3 hours a day, wouldn't it be better to spend them having FUN on another server than configuring your own for a bunch of people that keep breaking it?

/tell Nel for a pearl

also, this fairy NPC here activates mentor mode, read ffera.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1837 before deciding if you want to play MM or not.

You hold the record for longest game time I've ever personally witnessed, which isn't saying much, but mad respect.

We wuz mentorz

we're gonna fuck this bird up

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bump

we're up to Valkurm dunes now, butts get in here, and everybody else too

i'll get it someday…. right?

ohh? mithrabutts in thread? (๑ↀᆺↀ๑)✧

I miss you guys on the Holla Forums server it was fun

I'm back playing PSO2 again they made some updates lately and it's really fun. it's not comfy as FFXI but there's a lot more gameplay hehe.

【See you again!】 someday~

im trying to get people to play on Era server so that butts can play instead of code and fix stuff all the time

I saw~ but I'm paying for pso2 premium @w@ so it will be bad if I am not playing it I'll be in trouble

come on you slut you know you want that throbbing mithra futa cock

lewd……

if its any consolation, in Era, the boots have a 30% droprate instead of 3.5%

bump

another failure lizzy kill, 0/2

also 2 jaggedy-jack kills, als 0/2

how many people are installing XI right now?

guys bls

0/3 lizzy kills, 0/4 JEJ kills

Which FFXIV server?
I can't join Balmung or Gilgamesh after four days of waking up at 4am. Now I can't join leviathan either.

It seems like you need to join Balmung or Gilgamesh or choose from over two dozen almost empty servers. You would think they would have begun to shut down realms or try and spread people out a bit. Bad feeling to have considering I just bought the thing.