Which one has more interesting quests, less fetchshit and generally more satisfying combat?

Gothic 3 models are unusual, as soon as you get used to them and fix/patch the game it's okay tho.
The only thing Oblivion did better than Gothic is probably archery, I wouldn't pick that in Gothic 3.

Oh boy.

I never played oblivion (luckily).
I can talk about G3 though.
DO NOT PLAY IT WITHOUT THE G3 COMMUNITY BUGFIX PATCH
worldofgothic.de/dl/download_478.htm

Combat
1. melee
2. ranged
3. magic

Graphics and Atmosphere

Story and Quests

However,

Gothic 3 is a far better game

Modded gothic 1, modded gothic 2 or modded gothic 3?

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>>>/suicide/

Gothic 2 is the best one of the franchise. But you should play the first one, the story and atmosphere are great.
Most people think its weird and clunky at first but i advise you to stick with it, its one of those very rewarding games.

Oblivion is absolute shit in every department, so

W-w-would it run on shitdows 10 :^(?

No idea. Windows 10 is a pos, i got stuttering on everything since i installed this crap.

Oblivion is a terrible game and the quests are a meme because a few good ones are the only thing people can still latch on to now that they've grown up.

Get the patches like the other anons suggest and enjoy Gothic 3.

Play Shivering Isles and walk away from everything else.

Oblivion is a meh game with some decent quests which can become a 10/10 game when modded. If it didn't work for you you didn't mod it enough. Same for Skyrim except quests are shit.

I hate this meme. Jokes were meme tier, they ruined Sheogorath, dungeons were too big but even more devoid of world building and half the expansions were fetchquests (find 30 XYZ). Visual design is the only good thing about it.

Terrible game. It's a shit RPG and it's a shit casual adventure game. Word design is atrocious, dialogue quality is so bad it's unreal, lore is a holocaust, combat floaty and monotonous and UI a disaster.
Only thing modding can do is make it crash, as it's the most unstable of the 3D elder scroll games. There are no mods that fix any of this besides UI.

From the little I played gothic 1, I can tell you 3 is better tahn oblivion. If it has good controls

Seriously how do you play gothic?

By being gud. Most rpg players cant into that aparently.

I played them on Win7 a few months ago

G3 by far, but it's still nothing compared to G1 and G2

Learn the controls and git gud. There is no levelscaling whatsoever, so if you can't beat the enemies in one area, you should just skip it until you get better gear. The combat is attrocious at first, until you find out that the reason you are so utterly shit is that the animations and even controls change when your character learns proficiency with the weapon you gave him, and everything becomes easier (but never too easy). That should be all you need to know

Found your problem. If you're not stupid and get the right tools it should be pretty easy. You also need dedication and some form of autism.

Gothic 1 had some bizarre controls I couldnt get into because there was no control menu to see the bindings. I think, I'll probably download it again

Why are the covers so similar

I've yet to see a single bethesda game brought to 8/10 even with mods.

Like clockwork. No, user, saying it's possible to mod it and not crash is not enough. Don't go around smearing shit over other user's eyes. I've successfully modded Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim extensively multiple times and it's Oblivion which is hardest to mod, has the least good content and graphical mods and crashes the most. I wouldn't recommend modding Oblivion to anyone except hardcore pregnancy/tentacles fetishist because Skyrim can do almost everything else, including porn, easier and better.

Pretty sure you are wrong. The game just doesnt has a boring tutorial and doesnt teach you things you should figure out like why you got a rune to turn yourself into an animal

You're dead wrong. Gothic 1's controls are atrocious. Its control scheme makes no sense and no other 3rd person game uses that kind of shit.
Torrent and try even the basic shit like opening chests to see for yourself.

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Yes, Skyrim can be modded, user. Now go away to your containment threads and stop virtue signaling without a point.

The buttons are just mapped in retarded places because that was commom at the time, some since a lot of people didnt use the mouse to play.

Anyone with half a brain can remap and figure it out in a few minutes.

Gothic is one of the most obvious casual filters in gaming, casuals are so lazy and dumb they cant even remap the fucking controls and then say stupid shit like you are doing right now.

Reminder that Oblivion is the best and most comfy Elder Scrolls game.

One of the best soundtracks ever.

They are both shit.

Sort of this. Gothic 1 and 2 are better than both.

Of course it does, all you have to do is go to your friendly neighborhood torrent site, torrent literally any other version of Binblows (even Vista), install the iso onto a usb, then boot up the operating system and purge NSA/Windows 10 from your computer you fucking retarded piece of shit. Alternatively, you can get a real operating system such as your preferred distro of GNU/Linux and either run it through WINE or a virtual machine (assuming you can do GPU passthrough)

Also kill yourself for allowing that shit on your computer in the first place

Here we go. How?

>still no skyrim mod where i can rape futaazura, mephala, nocturnal, or vaermina

Oh come on that exists, the rape + futa obviously does and if you don't believe me then you have seen nothing of the depravity of this mod community. As for those daedra, though I have no doubt that someone has already made them as followers doing such a thing yourself would be trivial and would take no more than an hour to make all four of them. Making companions is one of the easiest things you can do in Skyrim modding.

CTRL+UP to open a chest
that was so fucking hard now wasnt it

What patches or mods do I need to put in to fix this? I want to start playing through the gothic games.

running gothic 1 is kinda like magic. You definitely need the community patch, you MAY need the mod framework (even if you don't want to install any mods), if you have Skype running, you have to close it, and you better prepare for a lot of googling and tears if nothing I said fixed it. But you'll get it to run eventually.

Use this:
forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1340357-Release-Gothic-½-—-SystemPack-(ENG-DEU)

Make sure to follow the install instructions.

Do you think Gothic came out in 80s or something?

Dunno. Never played Gothic. But I will say, Oblivion has a hell of a lot of great stories thrown into it. If you don't mind the rather shit combat, it's pretty solid.
I mostly like it for the whole roleplay aspect. You can make just about any character you want. Only issue is the quest lot not having much in the way of options, but it still beats Skyrim at least.
Morrowind is technically better, but it didn't age well. Neither did Oblivion, but at least oblivion is slightly newer.

Gothic 3 > Oblivion any day.
Sure Oblivion has a few quests that are good, but Gothic has the better world, atmosphere, basically everything else.
I played Gothic 3 for hours, doing all three endings. I also played a lot of oblivion and did all quests there.

Gothic 3 unpatched is the only way of playing Gotchic 3.

Beware of warthogs.

Oblivion has better quests and probably more satisfying combat with some mods. I can say you can fix basically everything you don't like in Oblivion with mods.

Gothic 3 on the other hand is quite shitty. The first quest in game are literally just a bunch of fetch quests and nothing else like gather 20 plants, gather some wolf pelts, find me creates, kill these monsters. I mean the game is quite nice sometimes but it's one of these games where you cruise through the game with ease and forget about it when you finish it.

Haven't played the first in years but pretty sure I ended up going with numpad for most everything.

1 and 2, not necessarily Gothic 3.

Well, Oblivion is the most boring and bland Elder Scrolls game, so even though I've never played Gothic 3, going with that.

Is there any reason for somebody that is not from Central Europe to play Gothic?

Lol, look at this retard showing how low his level is again.
Way up until the early 2000s a lot of people didnt use the mouse to play on PC. The key mapping being completely retarded for today standards was pretty commom in non FPS games.

Is there any reason for somebody that is not from America to get a gun and eat hot dogs?

Can you please fuck off to cuckchan or reddit?

Yes: it's an okay game.

90% of the internet are ps3-360 baby nowadays, it was already an obscure games 10 years ago

of course oblivion

Reason? Progression.
You start as absolute shit but later you slowly became one giant badass.
It also gave you actual new moves, instead of you getting more numbers to your attacks.

These games actually made you feel like went somewhere. Not third one through.

Not in Europe, at least eastern part.
Here people haven't wasted money on consoles and instead played on PC, making Gothic popular.
You easily could find people who knew Gothic.

theyre both basicly shit. gothic 3 is infested with fetch quest bullshit, while oblivion is just boring.

both shit.

but at least gothic 3 has a world that is fun ot explore.

If you even want ot get into the gothic series play gothic 1&2 , gothic 3 is pretty bad, although playable with all the community fixed, rebalance and content. Gothic 4 doesnt exist.

i replay those games every few years, they work on windows 7.

Even Morrowind was kind of obscure in the west before Oblivion. Most TES faggots are hipsters that got on the bandwagon in 2006, then when Morrowind got to the surfface again a lot of hipster started claiming to be old Daggerfall players. Just shows what kind of casual plays that shitty franchise.

Just because a bunch of retards jumped on the bandwagon doesnt make morrowind or daggerfall bad. i liked those games because they were true rpgs, you could play as any character you wanted and the world would react accordingly. the worlds were cool, the writing was alright and the gameplay was kind of shit, but that didnt bother me back in the day.
then they ran out of creativity and created oblivion which was just bland and boring. but the franchise wasnt always bad.

The gameplay was shit, thats all that matters to me. I remember forcing myse lf to play Morrowind until meeting Vivec, i think, then i got fed the fuck up with how much of a errand boy simulator it was.
These games were never good mang.

I don't think the Morrowind's gameplay was shit. Flying around dropping those fat nukes on NPCs late game was pretty rad.

Let's hope the Bethesda Autism Force doesn't come to shit up the thread for daring to point out their darling game is a turd.

You just had to suffer for 200 hours of shitty gameplay or read some walkthrough like a faggot before breaking the game like that

If you can't have fun with Morrowind's spellmaking, then I don't know what to tell you.

I first played the game when I was practically still a kid and didn't have to read some walkthrough. I guess if you really don't like the early game those "200" hours might seem like a chore but it didn't bother me that much. Looking back though the melee combat is pretty lackluster so I can imagine people getting bored with it.

almost no rpgs have good gameplay, thats not why most people like them.

ok I downloaded it. How's this game for unarmed combat? Also, any must have mods?

zuz

Making a futa dark elf female follower is not the same as making azura

I don't care much about quests, but I guess Gothic 3 has it better while Oblivion has better (open world, the dungeons are repetitive) exploration. Another thing interesting thing is Oblivion's sophisticated AI and overpowered magic build.

Oblivion has immensely better controls, magic, archery, and more satisfying hit sfx, but Gothic 3 has more depth and variations. Take your pick. Strangely, Gothic 3's combat reminds me of Elder Scrolls Adventures Redguard so much, Todd Howard's earlier game.

This is why Bethesda fans need to be gassed.

Oblivion is easily the better game.
You need to actually mod Gothic 3 for it to be even worth playing and even then the quests are all trash fetch quests.

Yes.
G1:

G2:

Don't be such a cuck and elaborate. Radiant AI took a lot of processing power and creates a lot of bugs, but the result was amazing. The NPC's live their lives naturally, they decide their own activities and travel the map for a purpose. Other than STALKER and future TES games (whose radiant engine is toned down a lot), this is the only open world game that uses GOAP AI.

Gothic 1 and 2 have some of the worst combat ever. Go play Severance or Rune to experience actual good combat.

Might wanna actually read up again lad. They cut Radiant AI from oblivion because it didn't work.
The NPC schedules uses basic scripting and has been present since Ultima 6

what you are describing is something that has been in gaming for years before bethesda ever used it to market their shit.

They only cut the town's economy system.

Oblivion has more than just basic schedules. NPC's will travel from town to town, hunt, have an affair, and steal food when they're out of food. The difference between GOAP AI and regular AI is in GOAP, you just give the AI a set of functions, then the AI would make their own priority and pick the most proper the functions according to them.

Beth was the first to implement GOAP along with Monolith.

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I can't decide whether this is a masterful troll or a bethdrone believes the lies and errors it spouts.

sure thing todd.

Bethesda fans are all like this. You couldn't keep defending their shit games if you weren't clinically retarded.

Okay, don't be mad, just tell me where I was wrong.

Are there any good mods for Oblivion. Something that fixes the horrific and sluggish combat?

Here

Cant believe you guys still shill that piece of shit.

I'd ask anons here geneerally about what they think are non-fetch quests in games?

Explain and give a few favorite examples.

Such a thing does not exist for any of their games.

What?

The things you say never happens. If you look into the scripts it self you'll see why. Dumb ass. At best they go to bed and nothing more.

Nah dudefag.

uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Traveling_People
uesp.net/wiki/Category:Oblivion-Hunter
uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Crime#NPC_Crime

With many fun spells from Morrowind no longer existing? What is overpowered in Oblivion, enemies' ragdoll after casting late-game Finger of the Mountain?

As amazing as a beggar stealing food, getting killed by the guards, and making me fail the quest for mastering speechcraft?

But that's not radiant at all.

Thanks user, got it working just now and remapped all my controls.

And what exactly would the difference be? Give her hilariously overpowered stats, the name Azura, and boom you're done.

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It depends on how you play it. The true way to play Morrowind is to maximize your speed, int, and magic skills, get atronach, and only use magic in combat (and learn the plants that make magicka potions to sustain yourself). I have yet to play a game with a magic system more interesting than Morrowind's, and yes I have played Asheron's Call, Dragon's Dogma, Gothic 2, and the other TES games.

They cut most of the features of the radiant AI even if parts of it (like schedules) still exist.

Watch embed related and think about how much of what is being shown actually ended up in the game.

Even back then…even back then.

Man, I get cutting radiant AI due to shit programming, but why did they have to remove the raspy dunmer voice?

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That map is fucking weird

You can have 100 reflect damage and become nearly invincible.

Now you know why they cut the economy function. The whole town would kill each other. It's amazing as in interesting, not bugless.

Then what is it?

That demo is pretty much fake. Either scrapped AI functions or just staged NPC's.

Oblivion's quests are one of the only good things about the game.

Oh Todd~

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