Holla Forums here, willing to step out of my echo chamber for a bit to see what you commies have to offer

Seriously gulag yourselves

Did you guys even read what OP was asking for?

I believe did and answered the question clearly. He's also right.

This is a great book on black history from a left perspective, but I would also like to know what you think the "status of niggers" is.

It's pretty hilarious how blacks are blamed for basically every societal problem ever.

You are right don't listen to those autists.

Either read or The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State by Engels if you want to go for a Marxist perspective.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/origin_family.pdf

No, only their own failings.

Hah, if only.

What more then?

here is what you need

youtube.com/watch?v=gohal9CW7t0

tells the story of about a dozen radical history books in 2hrs

As a note, I would like to add to this suggestion that OP needs to realize that any left-wing answer is going to come at this from a different angle from how the right-wing does it.

For example, let us say we are playing a game of monopoly. Some people are greatly ahead, some people are very far behind. Many f the right wing will say that this is justified because they played within the rules and these rules are fair for the players, and so if other people fell behind, that is their own fault. There's other people who are saying that this is unfair because the people stuck behind are stuck in a cycle of poverty caused by their position and so the people further ahead should help those further behind so that we become fair. Whether or not either one is true, they're both working within a given framework, ie. the rules of the game monopoly.

The other hand, in which most of our answers are likely going to come from, don't really address this. You're not going to find a simple, concise answer because the left wing is asking if the rules of monopoly are rules we want to be following in the first place. Asking if the status of one group or another is such and such is kind of irrelevant save for showing how the rules of the game come together to cause these situations.

If you don't keep this in mind, then most any good answer you're going to get is going to seem like it's not answering your question.

Like I said, everything, to varying extents.

That doesn't say anything.

I have a question as well. Statist or Anarchist literature? Which group is the most correct about communism?

tl;dr for OP

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It really depends. anarchists' claim that state-based revolution has much bigger chance to degenerate has some merit, but so is state socialists' claim that "muh non-hierarchical confederation" is more likely to get fucked in the ass by outside forces.

Weren't the original Black Panthers heavily involved in the drug trade because "muh greater good"?

Maybe? I was more referring to crack epidemic, which happened by the time Black Panthers were already dead.

A few of them were but mostly they were involved with community programs. And the drug dealing they did was nothing close to the massive scandal that Webb died for.

Ain't got time for that shit nigga, why do you think I recommended a 50 page book?

I'll check out this one then. Is kropoktin a jew?

Here faggot

No.

It only took one google search.

And yeah read this when you're done

I'm sorry, but this board is under anarchist control.

But that's bullshit and you know it. How the fuck does that explain the GLOBAL lQ gap and rape/murder rates of blacks worldwide?

Weren't the jews involved in slave trade?

Why should white people read that first? Shouldn't the niggers understand first that whites are not their enemy?

How many black people do you actually know? Do you have any black friends? I was talking with my black friend last week and he told me affirmative action is stupid.

Don't be so quick to give up on people. You can do it Holla Forumsanon, I believe in you!

I don't want to sound snarky/smug but you have so much to learn, like there's so much information you're missing out on, I don't even know where to start

No. He was Russian Aristocracy.

Also you should read PJ Proudhon's What is Property. Or maybe some Bakunin. I say this because they were both anti-semitic so maybe they will speak your language.

Anarchism will deliver what fascism only promises to deliver. Freedom from the parasites. The capitalist parasites which in their blindness the fascists can only see as Jews.

Also if you read Kropotkin's 'The Conquest of Bread' He talks about the Rothschild's. All of this before Hitler remember.

Blacks are poor in America and Blacks are poor in Africa and just about any other place they inhabit. Whites would be poor too if they had spent centuries being robbed of everything they have.

Poverty creates crime. Its that simple.

Have you adjusted them for inter-generational poverty spanning back for the last 100, 200, 300, 1000 years?

The material conditions of the creation of a personality is a thousands of years old process, not undone by a simple generation of relative abundance.

Violence creates violence, great violence has been inflicted on black people in America, this has made them violent. Its not rocket science.

The kid who gets bullied shoots up the school. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You only reap what you sow.

/thread

Not him, but that won't help him, just saying that he's too dumb too understand something. That also makes you far more smug than him.

Its not that he's necessarily dumb, just lacks an incredible amount of knowledge.

Note the amount of in-depth and detailed works that are being posted here, yet you're replying with a single infograph about >IQ that takes literally no other factors into account.

I don't care if I sound smug, but Holla Forums bases their whole ideology of off memes and questionable infographs, that makes them fucking idiots.

My sides.

Ok, let's say whites bullied niggers and now they act violent. We stole their resources, so niggers now are poor.

BUT, wouldn't it be easier instead of wasting time to undo what we have done in the past, to just kill them all? Wouldn't the resources and time wasted on niggers could be better used on poor whites?

Why not depose of all proles in general? You psycopathic fuck

God no.

You think engaging in OUTRIGHT CIVIL RACIAL WAR in the most powerful economy in the world, while at the same time fighting countless enemies abroad, is the cheapest, easiest solution that is going to benefit white people the most?

WHAT?

Cheaper than opening up a bunch of schools, non shitty affordable housing, day care centres, drug rehab programs?

Instead you would rather spend that money expanding the police state so that you can have almost one half of the population at war with the other half?

Not to mention probably the rise of radical Islam in America, Probably organisations like the Nation Of Islam, only this time in open war.

You must conduct this war with the support of only half the whites, all while your economy is tanking because noboday at work and everybody is fighting in the streets.

Meanwhile your trade wars with China crumble as they see your weakness and Putin strolls into Syria and puts up troll face sign 300 ft high that says FUCK YOU DONALD TRUMP

and I light a cigar on the smoking remains of the united states and say FUCK SHOULD HAVE JUST BUILT SOME SCHOOLS OH WELL NIGGERS LOL

Let's take the exemple of Jews. They have been kicked out of Europe a thousand times since forever, they have been persecuted (for good or not reasons is not the questions). Yet, they score better score than any other races on Earth, they're also far richer in general than other races.
It's just a matter of I.Q and the threat that poses mixing races. They're more concerned with having to kill the whitey's oppresion than acutally going out making a better world.

I'd really like to see Africa if it had been left alone, because they could have been doing great advancements if 🍀🍀🍀they🍀🍀🍀 didn't meddled in in.

Wrong. See pics.

You think they'd just lay down and die?

Always knew Argentina was WHITE

You've done it. You've completely proved race realism.

Those two info graphics you posted are absolute, 100% solid proof. Literally no possible counter argument.

I know you're being retarded, but if we want the best possible conditions for the poor whites it will be socialism which will by extension also raise up the blacks and right the wrongs and injustices to the point where they will be on equal footing with whites

So really unless you're main argument is ''I don't like the way black people look darker than whites" you can fuck right off.

Yet are the infographs wrong ? While the one I posted has no source and I apologize for that, you'll have plenty of good sources showing of I.Q by races.
Also, note that this isn't me saying "da dumb niggerz lol", because it's too bad for them, but saying that they're poorer and all because of Whites is dumb.

nob an argument :DDDD

Fun fact: You can steal more from rich people than from poor people.

*unless your argument is anything other THAN

Race realism has been debunked so many times I cant even be bothered anymore.

I'd reccomend reading 'guns, germs and steel' it has a few innacuries because its written in very simple language (for people like you) but overall the general argument is correct.

Burkina Faso has a lower crime rate than the US when factored solely among non-Hispanic whites.

There is also the fact that a tiny percentage of the populace that is disproportionately large is still tiny. If every pathologically violent criminal disappeared overnight, the vast majority of blacks would remain.

Thanks for the book, will pick up.
By the way, saying that people are dumb and that you don't have time to waste with them is not and argument, and it make you look retarded.

In reference to the first picture I repeat myself.

Have you adjusted them for inter-generational poverty spanning back for the last 100, 200, 300, 1000 years?
The material conditions of the creation of a personality is a thousands of years old process, not undone by a simple generation of relative abundance.

Violence creates violence, great violence has been inflicted on black people in America, this has made them violent. Its not rocket science.

The kid who gets bullied shoots up the school. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You only reap what you sow.

If the Jews are so intelligent as you say, should they not run the world?

How do they maintain this while being oppressed? While they have been punted around Europe and purged, they, the survivors have always been rich due to the religious idea that you can lend money at interest to non-Jews. These is by the way a relation that can only exist within a system that protects private property.

Due to the original geographic position of the Jewish people they have always been mercantile, thus creating the material conditions for a religion which permits lending to strangers, people you who are not in your community, because you travel around selling things a lot.

It ALWAYS comes down to material conditions.

pics are wrong actually read my post

yet it's effectively the practical basis of every racialist argument ever

Fix tge I.Q filters dumb mods

Also that picture talks about property crime. Does that include the people that live in this neighbourhood being robbed? Like having their houses broken into, by people from poor neighbourhoods maybe?

I'd also like to add to this by pointing out how crime rates in the US, both violent and property, have rapidly been declining, while the average Autism Level of all demographics has slowly risen with faster gains among blacks.

This paints a much different picture because these graph.jpg pictures are falsely implied to be static variables.

goddammit Jared Diamond FUCK OFF

Do those even work? Do blacks want them? To me it looks like African Americans want the GIBS without any effort.

And it's not even about African Americans, it's about the whole nigger population around the world, more than that.. all non-whites that complain that whites oppressed them and now come to our white countries demanding shit for what happened 1000 years ago.

Isn't that where we are heading anyway? Automation. How much time it takes for them to get on our level?

Not round them up and kill them, but affect their birthrates until only the smart ones are left. We could put the smart niggers in charge of the program. The only thing they have to understand is that we would all be better off if we would just kill the stupid niggers instead of wasting resources on trying to make them something they can't be.

Socialism with what jobs? The gooks will take over soon.

fuck off retard

Hopefully you will get sterilized by that program

Babby's first eugenics

A very small number of blacks actually receive welfare without having any sort of employment.

You know it's true.

fuck off retard

The drug business = employment?

youtube.com/watch?v=t6AcLgF9LX0

Do you have any actual argument aside from edgelord memes?

Why you came to the thread chimp? You knew what it's about, you fuck off if you don't like it.

Its not, no matter how hard you sperg

fuck off retard

Is this 2011 Holla Forums?

Argument to what? That you said only a very small number of blacks actually receive welfare? That's completely false.

And now you are strawmanning which leads me to believe you really don't.

So spooked by a few politically incorrect words.. and you call yourselves Holla Forums

Ur a dumb retard lmao

What you are saying is that blacks are hard working people?

So yes, we reverted back to the buzzword era?

Isn't 'straw man' a buzzword now?

AKA cunts

Not in this context.

Anti-Duhring.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/

If you're talking about an actual, physical book that you want to buy, get the Marx-Engels Reader (pic related)

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I mean, it's obviously due to both. Genes are a material condition.

Don't do this

Think of it as a 19th century form of meme magic. It's not a theoretically sound work by any means, but it served to popularize a certain image and set of rudimentary ideas to the broadest possible audience. Think of how popsci books/articles are almost entirely devoid of actual content by virtue of who they are written for.

Ding ding ding

wew, top-tier discourse lad.

Nothing more than a "disregard all evidence because muh feels" feminine non-argument. Race is the best predictor of lQ which itself is the best predictor of both criminality and income. We both know what I'm saying is true, hand-waving it all and pretending you don't understand is dishonest and low-energy as fuck.

A former French colony with a minuscule population of 17M with an extremely corrupt government that lies about crime stats. THIS is your big argument against black criminality? wew.
But no such stats exist, so that can't possibly be true, as most mestizos self-report as "non-hispanic white". One quick look at any local PD that displays mugshots along with race in southern states will confirm that in a heartbeat.

Dropped. This is some abstract false flagging right here.

nature.com/news/poverty-shrinks-brains-from-birth-1.17227

Nice clickbait article. Poverty doesn't "shrink brains" you fucking mongoloid, poor nutrition does. You can eat extremely healthy on a shoestring budget.

The alt-right, everybody.

Not an argument, shitstain. Care to try again?

Nice, the aut-rightist got triggered

Are you serious right now?

Not an argument.
Not an argument.
Not an argument.
Not an argument.

OP, you really need to pay attention to what this user said regardless of what you decide to read

Since you clearly don't know what Nature is,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_(journal)
It's like you're calling JACS clickbait. You can even read the actual paper which is linked at the bottom. But you don't strike me as the scientifically literate type.

Holla Forums please, nobody is falling for your bullshit here.

The title of the article absolutely is clickbait. Just so we can clear this up, are you indeed claiming that poverty, and not poor nutrition, is what "shrinks brains"?

Not an argument
Not an argument
Not an argument

Where the fuck did anybody ITT claim that poor nutrition doesn't adversely impact brain development? What does nutrition have to do with the conclusions of the paper?
Are you assuming that if one factor has an influence of some kind no other factor can?

You argued that the title of the article isn't clickbait, when it's extremely misleading and perfectly fits the definition of clickbait. This is gradeschool "cotton shirts cause car accidents" correlation != causation shit. Unless you're trying to make the case in a roundabout way that low lQ parents lack the knowledge on how to prepare inexpensive, nutrient rich food for their children, instead stuffing them full of processed trash and spending the rest of their government gibs on alcohol, tobacco, and luxury items.

Not exactly. More pointed out that's a red herring. Once again, the actual paper is linked at the bottom for you to read. You clearly haven't and are trying to judge it based on how the PR wing chose to word their comments, which is fallacious as anything. All papers get press coverage like this.

We can't exactly delineate a causal mechanism due to the nature of the field today. The best option is controlling for various possibly confounding factors and falsifying alternate hypotheses.
Science doesn't get you "absolute truth" in the bizarre metaphysical way people tend to think.

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret here. There's really no distinction. If you live in the first world and don't have an abnormally restricted diet, you're not going to have nutrient deficiencies. Excessive nutrient intake doesn't make you healthier (Pauling dedicated a significant part of his later career to this matter) and often causes overdose symptoms.
There's also the gummy multivitamin thing.
"Clean eating" is a meme

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Stormfags can't argue with real scientists, are you off your rocker?

lol the Holla Forums "argument" against scientists is calling them all kikes (but still using the product of their work like the double standard hypocrites they are on the inside).

he will never read the study. Hell, i'll link to both studies RIGHT NOW and the Holla Forumsyp will just brush it off as 'kike shit' because complex words like 'hippocampus' are too much for his fragile racial "realist" brain.

nature.com/articles/nn.3983.epdf

who.int/management/country/mex/RoleofCashConditionalCashTransferMexicosOportunidades.pdf

Watch him go into defensive mode now that he can't shift the goal posts to some editor's shitty titling job and will have to actually argue with scientists. They can't do it. It's like kryptonite to their conspiratorial worldviews.

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the mods ban anyone that responds seriously

Considering how much I shitpost racialist stuff on this board and get away with it, lol.

Responding seriously, not shitposting you fuckwit

lyl

This simply doesn't happen.

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I was mostly trying to demonstrate exactly that. Debate is never for the benefit of the opposing party.
All I can say is, thank god I'm in synthesis and not climate science.

No actually there is mountains and mountains of evidence to suggest poverty is inter-generational, that is, inherited, just like riches. You are ignoring an extremely well documented phenomenon.

>feminine non argument

and what exactly is 'feminine' about it, its a fact.

I'm the one disregarding evidence because of feels?

Explain to me then how poverty is in fact not passed down, how most people don't die in the class they were born. Explain to me how that isn't a fact.

No it isn't.

Oh INCOME. So it couldn't be that wealth causes the other two, rather than just race causing all three?

no I don't, baseless assertion

which is exactly what you are doing by pretending there is no inter generational poverty and claiming my argument is somehow 'feminine' and 'muh feels'

>pretending you don't understand

absolutely nowhere do I say I don't understand.

So you are the dishonest one you fucking clown.

is this reddit spacing?

Yes, they do. Oh, to you it looks, great. The facts show otherwise with a steady decrease in criminality since the 60's

This doesn't even really make sense. And what happened didn't really stop happening until about 50 years ago, I mean like the bus segregation, the slavery only stopped around 300 years ago, which is really not that many generations to improve the lot of your family versus established dynasties such as the Rothschilds.

I don't reddit. It makes it clearer.

how cute, but look above kid, you still haven't reached the top

let's pretend you actually manage to prove any of your bullshit right, now feel free to make an ought argument on why we should use lQ to stablish a hierarchy within society

We need to do more outreach on halfchan /sci/
They're pretty chill

gb2faceshit

We really need IDs on this board. Your sock puppetry is ever so tiresome.

kek

nog um arbumen xxDD

No need to spread conspiracy theories, he's just an unfunny retard

When we say that experience and reason prove that men are not equal, we mean by equality, equality in abilities or similarity in physical strength and mental ability.

It goes without saying that in this respect men are not equal. No sensible person and no socialist forgets this. But this kind of equality has nothing whatever to do with socialism. If Mr. Tugan is quite unable to think, he is at least able to read; were lie to Lake the well-known work of one of the founders of scientific socialism, Frederick Engels, directed against Dühring, he would find there a special section explaining the absurdity of imagining that economic equality means anything else than the abolition of classes.
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

[…] the real content of the proletarian demand for equality is the demand for the abolition of classes. Any demand for equality which goes beyond that, of necessity passes into absurdity."

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/ch08.htm

"There is evidence that conservatives are more sensitive to disgust [7] and the insula is involved in the feeling of disgust [8] On the other hand, more 'liberal' students tended to have a larger volume of grey matter in the anterior cingulate cortex,[5] a structure of the brain associated with monitoring uncertainty and handling conflicting information.[5][6] It is consistent with previous research suggesting that individuals with a larger ACC have a higher capacity to tolerate uncertainty and conflicts, allowing them to accept more liberal views."

"A study by scientists at New York University and the University of California, Los Angeles, found differences in how self-described liberal and conservative research participants responded to changes in patterns.[12] Participants were asked to tap a keyboard when the letter "M" appeared on a computer monitor and to refrain from tapping when they saw a "W." The letter "M" appeared four times more frequently than "W," conditioning participants to press the keyboard on almost every trial. Liberal participants made fewer mistakes than conservatives when they saw the rare "W," indicating to the researchers that these participants were better able to accept changes or conflicts in established patterns. The participants were also wired to an electroencephalograph that recorded activity in their anterior cingulate cortex, the part of the brain that detects conflicts between a habitual tendency and a more appropriate response. Liberals were significantly more likely than conservatives to show activity in the brain circuits that deal with conflicts during the experiment, and this correlated with their greater accuracy in the test."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_political_orientation

Socialism offers you a solution that doesn't need to adress individual differences as it's a movement to overcome the indiscriminate economic exploitation of workers.

So why are you choosing to follow an ideology that focuses on "intelligence", when there is overwhelming proof that your very ideology itself doesn't make the cut to meet its own set standards?
Is it because you're into humiliation and submission? That would certainly explain alot even beyond just this case in point.

Do you rightcucks have anything else?

Piratefags post > your post

jej

A high quality stalinpost?

lel

I treaded your spooks and you are still mad about it right?

Assuming the glasses are round, wouldn't the short and wide one hold more water?
200 x π x 25^2=392699
100 x π x 50^2=785398
The image doesn't represent the study that well

doesn't sound like you want to learn at all tbh

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unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/HQ/CLT/pdf/P_Lovejoy_African_Contributions_Eng_01.pdf

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