Hyper Light Drifter is now 60 fps

This is just sad.

Thanks for the feed back. Doug told us not to judge when he was here but I know better than to flare the autism of anons.

I don't mind the Holla Forums meta ideas on a game, I'd say the honest best solution to disliking a developer? Pirate the game and judge the game on its own merits.

That seems like the best way to do it.

>mfw I was able to get a refund for my kickstarter pledge

It has been the only thing I have ever crowd funded that I regretted.

The hour or two I played of it was pretty dull, mostly trash mobs and finicky platforming. Might be a little better now that it can be confirmed whether the delay on the drifting is because of the framerate or because of shit programming

JUST FUCKING BUY MY FUCKIN GAME ALREADY YOU COCKSUCKING NIGGER FAGGOTS I GAVE YOU 60FPS WHAT THE RAPE MORE DO YOU FUCKIN WANT!? GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING MONEY MY HEART IS SHIT GOD CANT EVEN PISS STRAIGHT ANYMORE KILL MYSELF POKEMON

AYY LMAO CONGRATULATIONS

Wasn't worth it before but now I'd definitely advise to buy.

No thanks

Heard it was pretty good. I'll happily pirate it

Kill yourself faggot. Who gives a shit about the game? It's the FPS that matters. Supporting this boosts the message that PC gamers have standards and will settle for no less than 60 when it comes to FPS.

Most games for PC don't have that FPS issue, usually only indieshit.

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They added in iframes and other suggested features in future updates. It's still not perfect(and nothing ever will be) but it's worth any price below $10

Does it still have a framerate cap?

It's GameMaker, it's almost entirely based on frametime so their 60fps update is as good as it gets.

If the game wasn't allowed to be discussed then threads would be getting deleted.

the game itself is shit. this was before i knew who the devs were, and to be honest i didnt care. i just wanted a game to play
i honestly got a headache playing it for half an hour, ended up wearing sunglasses and dropping it after another half hour becasue it just wasnt worth playing

If you had any idea on what color theory is you would realize its not the word of god meant to be followed by every artist

wtf I love hyper light drifter now

it is if you want to create a form of continuous entertainment and not drive people away because the only thing on the screen is bright colors bloom with nowhere to rest your eyes.

That sounds more like a personal problem to me.
Maybe get your eyes checked.

I pie ratted this game a few months ago

it's ok I suppose, I thought it would be more Zeldaish, but there are no puzzles or anything it's just straight combat, which is ok

I give it a 6/10

If their art designers had any idea what color theory was they would realize that A E S T H E T I C dank meme videos on youtube are not a good reference for your palette

I will gag myself if I have to play another game with magenta and cyan everywhere

As I said, its sounds like a personal problem to me because there are thousands of people who think otherwise who happily bought and funded their games.
Are you gonna argue about objectivity in art styles next?

Why the fuck would anyone use framecap timing

cutscenes

a framerate limiter however is useful

Oversaturation, no pun intended, of the market with a visual style which was already outdated in 2006 is not a personal problem, it means their artists made even less effort than they had imagination.

Are you going to say that art is whatever you want to be and is always open to interpretation?

Shit, I had no idea CoD games had the best design the industry had ever seen.
>>>/4chan/

it is an okay game. I tried the 60fps beta earlier today, and it played a lot better than when I first got the game. I don't regret buying it since I got it on sale. I would recommend that you pirate it or wait till it goes on sale as it definitely is not worth full price.
also, I see nothing horribly wrong with the pixelshit in this game.while the colors can get ridiculous at times, they at least bothered to make decent pixelshit

Really?
In a market where half a dozen games get released every day can you name 50 games since 2006 with the same artstyle as HLD?
Sounds to me you are grasping straws to give your opinion legitimacy.

Different people like different things. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it objectively inferior. This is basic high school level of thinking

ok

I was talking about more than just games, but I guess if you don't pay attention to advertising or anything like that you wouldn't know that CMYK was a trend for at least the last decade if not longer. For games, Furi just came out, Hotline Miami's sequel just came out last year, danmaku games have been using it for a long time.

This is basic high school level of thinking.

Yes.

With theme, music and overall design game would benefit greatly from pale, washed out colors instead of neon lights.
Isn't it made in some open source game making tool for children? How hard would it be to mod game's overall color palette? Maybe add post processes color filter?

Thanks user, that was actually very valuable information to me.
I'll give this another try once this update goes live.

The benefit is you don't have to spend the 10 minutes it takes to account for a variable framerate in your sprite animation manager, which is just making a variable for each animated instance that keeps track of how much time has passed since the last time the animation updated that prevents it from updating until a certain amount of time has passed.

There was multiple threads on this already. In the first one, people pirated and gave their honest opinions. The average score was shit/10 for various reasons. How about you go back to reddit.

It's decent(mainly because two out of the four starting areas fell flat on their faces while the other two got me smiling) but there was something preplexing about it.
You could buy two specific abilities, one is activated by an attack and then dash, the other is a dash and then attack.
What the hell was the difference between the two?

guys why do youu like this games ??

-nostalgia ?
-propaganda?
-edginess?
-cuckoldry?

game looks no fun and just another shilled game from goons like the nomansky cuck train

And those reasons mostly were 30 fps, shitty control scheme and no iframes. And guess what, all of those are fixed now.

Fun gameplay?

I like the fast combat bits of it and actually needing to dodge for myself instead of relying on i-frames.
What I disliked was the story(I don't even remember much of it besides puking up something that consumed you), plenty of areas that felt of lower quality compared to others, the artstyle, FPS lock and some stupid shit like the two abilities I mentioned above as well as some odd quirks about it, mainly combo'ing a sword combo into backdashing and shooting an enemy. It felt delayed in a weird way, I guess. And I have no idea why.

It was more than that friend. Believe it or not, there were people who thought the game was, among other things, boring.

If people don't want to talk about your favorite game, the worst thing you can do is whine about how terrible they are for preferring to shitpost than talk about a game that they've already played and considered shit.

Notice how he isn't giving you specific reasons anymore because you caught him off guard and he's got nothing to say.
What a stupid asshole.

I dunno maybe even if game has fast paced combat and deadly enemies, it will still be perceived as boring unless it has some hard rock music and dynamic qtes.

no, it's objectively inferior from an art standpoint. Art is NOT subjective, no matter what modern "art" faggots say. I wish this meme would die already and so would you.

Do you even play video games?
Is this the three man raid from that other chan I heard some shit about?

game was terrible, plagued with retarded level design decisions, has a shit perspective that makes it pointlessly difficult to play, god awful combat. Still has a knock-off radio the universe art style.

also shilled to shit by game journos. It's not "the best" or "the worst" in any way, and does nothing good so it isn't worth your fucking time. You can play a dozen other great games discover entire libraries of great games instead of wasting your time with this horrendous shit.

No problem, I should specify that it was later updates that added it. As saying "future updates" would imply they haven't arrived yet.

I pirated it and thought it was alright. The only "jarring color scheme I was aware of was in the West forest area and even then it wasn't that bad. I didn't like that the collectibles and shit dont give you anything, and that most of the upgrades are useless. I really hated how the mouse indicator is a pale transparent white circle that fucking impossible to see in the thick of things. Poor design. I have other minor gripes but other than that it's worth a pirate.

One did damage during the dash which was very useful and the other one did a unique attack at the end of the dash that I only used when spamming.

A major gripe I did have that I forgot to mention with was that the highly vaunted "exploration" was some of the most menial wall humping I've ever done. You literally have to tiptoe every edge and molest each wall in an area to get the collectibles, and they don't even reward you for getting all of them. There was only a couple of times in my complete play through where I was impressed at the way an item was hidden.

The music was largely forgettable. I listened to each track, since I'm a fag for that shit, but I just listened to my own tunes afterwards.

I will admit that I thought the combat was fun and at least two of the bosses were genuinely difficult, at least at a low level.

The drift courses were interesting but did not reward properly for completing them. More puzzling would have been nice.

Then go play your propaganda like the tool you are, shill.

How is it propaganda? I don't even remember the story.

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Or, you know, you could just
NOT TIE THE FUCKING GAME LOGIC TO THE FRAMERATE YOU RETARDED HACKS, FUCKING SJWS CAN'T EVEN GET SOMETHING THAT SIMPLE RIGHT
MOTHERFUCKING GALGUN CAME OUT THIS MORNING AND IS A BAREBONES NIP PORT MADE BY JAPS WHO'VE NEVER TOUCHED A PC BEFORE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY LEFT THE GAME'S CONFIG FOLDER TITLED AS "UnrealEngine3" AND THOSE FUCKERS STILL GOT IT RIGHT
THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WAS SOLVED OVER THIRTY FUCKING YEARS AGO, AND ANY RETARD PROGRAMMER THAT STILL MAKES THIS MISTAKE IS A WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT, YES I'M GODDAMN MAD

So no, it's still not worth playing now.

Yeah, pretty much. Funny thing is, they probably have the game tied to 60fps now instead of using actual time measurements.

I played and liked this game but when I heard about the Vita port being canceled for performance reason I could not believe it. What can possibly be so demanding in this game? How poorly is this thing implemented?

Also updates like these are what make me hate this new standard of releasing unfinished games and fixing them later, shafting people who liked the game enough to buy and complete it early in an inferior state. I'd honestly rather it not have been released until now. A few years ago I would have never thought that free updates would be something I'd be getting mad about, I'd honestly rather be without it if it meant shipping good and finished 1.0's again.

It is so easy to spot people from reddit

And thus the cucks keep on cucking.

You know you're on 8/v/ right? You're making this way too obvious. Go back to sucking the toes of your indieclique friends.

Same reason Bind of Isaac only runs on n3DS (poorly) and not o3DS. These hack devs are so fucking incompetent that they make games that look and play worse than games 20 years ago yet require hardware 100x more powerful. Compare this piece of shit to Retro City Rampage. This game has framedrops on MODERN PCs, yet Retro City Rampage can literally run on an NES with only minor tweaks. Here, have a video from an actual programmer who actually knows what he's fucking talking about, unlike these worthless "indie" hacks.

they don't even push any ideology in the game
it's not fucking Dreamfall Chapters, where you have REFUGEES WELCOME
stop being retarded, Holla Forums

I'm not saying their game is shit because they're SJWs (though the connection is there) but I'm mocking them for it alongside calling their game a pile of dogshit.

I don't give a fuck. Why should I tolerate a member of an organized group of leftists whose primary goal is subversion of vidya? Why should anyone tolerate their presence within their community when all they want is to do to games what they did to comics?

They can fuck off, and you noble defeatist cucks along with them.

This too

And I don't give a fuck about what ideology they're pushing. If I don't wanna support them with money because of ideology, I just pirate. Although I pirate mostly anyway.

That's pretty retarded.

It's easy because SJWs are more often than not terrible at making games. They even make other people's games worse when they touch them. There's a positive correlation with the increase in of fresh out of college sjw devs and quality of games that come out of big devs.

Nice digits, but 8ch's Holla Forums really loves their platinum games, and good luck finding one that doesn't have QTEs.

Actually, it's even more pathetic than that. Hyper Light was made in fucking GAME MAKER, a pre-made engine that does all the hard shit for you. Now what really happened was by default gamemaker has a step timer of 30, meaning the game loop works at 30 steps per second. However, since the guy making this was an idiot and couldn't be assed to change it to anything higher, so all the alarms and event triggers worked at that frame rate, meaning they had to rewrite everything. Granted he could have just set up everything using some sort of constant list and just changed the numbers as easy as editing a text file but planning is hard.

I wouldn't care if they made a good game by some miracle. They are poison and tolerating them in the name of "freedom of expression" or "only the game matters" is exactly what they want.

They have proven beyond any shadow of doubt that there can be no compromise or middle ground with them, they will push and keep on pushing until they are either completely in control or wholly purged from vidya. They are a destructive and subversive element in the community and have only one goal, to destroy. Why would anyone in their right mind let these fucks spread their shit freely merely so he can virtue signal what a good liberal cuck he is?

We can make the sane choice and realize the only solution to these religious fanatics is to kick them out and tell them they are not welcome, or we can pretend everything will turn out fine if we keep ignoring them, only to end up like Holla Forums.

I hate the whole, "don't judge art based on the artist" bullshit. I'm not going to go on the street and call someone a motherfucking cock sucker and then give them $10, so why would I do the same and buy their game.

Games are not art, they are entertainment.

Platinum games already have good gameplay. QTEs are mostly there to make transitions between scenes interactive, add tension to fights etc. They games would still be good without them and if it was only qtes they'd just be Asura's Wrath clones.

The whole is more than the sum of the parts, dig?

*drop in quality

Nice little double standard you got there friend.

I agree. Way too many bandwaggoning faggots on this board. Think for yourselves, don't be a fucking sheep.

Oh boy a shill thread? Is it time for some porn?

Then there's even less reason to tolerate the Marxist filth, because they fail at creating anything with entertainment value, and even go out of their way to ruin what they did not create (forcing devs to censor their products, butchering translations, sabotaging products they don't like, etc.).

Do it user, I hope you post moms.

Game in question in current state is entertaining enough. Combat and dash puzzles are good, and with 60 fps it's a pleasure to play through.
Also Shovel Knight, one of the objectively the best indie games ever is made by SJWs too.
Also POE.

So yeah, devs don't have anything to do with the result of their work.

I have to ask the same, why wouldn't you? You're buying their product, not their opinions, consider how many people you pay either directly or indirectly that you disagree with on a personal level but just don't know it because you don't converse with them. This is work within society.

You should judge products accurately based on their merit alone since that's what you're actually buying, not factors external to it, If a developer isn't putting anything you disagree with into the game and you enjoy it then there should be no qualms in supporting the production of said product.

I don't think it's beneficial to get emotionally invested in your purchasing decisions like this, it's self spiting and restricting, the opposite thoughts are just as bad too, you wouldn't buy a bad game from someone just because you like them personally, would you?

I can't see any merit in the argument for restricting yourself, the "but they're against us" argument holds no water, what are they against? If they're trying to uproot gaming then why are they producing games that are actually good which are only deemed "not good" for social reasons? That just seems insane to me since that act in itself is detrimental to games, when you start making purchasing decisions based on people and not on products you're intentionally not supporting good products out of spite, if you don't support good products then there's no incentive to even make them.

Said people don't make it a point to mouth off their shit opinions you cuck.

Yet that Firefox CEO got fired when it was discovered he made a private donation against faggotry, and corporations have to routinely apologize when they do something "racist". Don't sit there and pretend you aren't a leftist shitstain trying to engage in false equivalence.

It's my fucking money and I am entitled to spend it any way I like.

Gamers and games. They're pretty vocal about it too, made a shitload of videos and articles calling me dead.

But leftists aren't making good products. They are incapable of doing so, and even if they were, I wouldn't support and finance members of a group that wants to take my hobby away from me and turn it into their propaganda pulpit.

Go be a faggot someplace else.

It's very simple user, I'm not going to personally feed the mouth of somebody that spews bullshit I don't like. If I buy their game I'm supporting them and by extension their ideology.

I see where you guys are coming from, but that's a bit excessive.
You should absolutely deny SJWs money and attention, but you shouldn't deny yourselves pleasure of playing good video games. And for pleasure, you should pay, otherwise things you like will just stop being made.

Shovel Knight is made by SJWs?

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"C'mon user, throw away your personal beliefs and integrity and have a piece of this cake."

I can't see how this relates to the product, people spouting their opinions will do so regardless, it's what they prefer to do personally, it's irrelevant to their work. When you buy someones productions you're supporting the production not what the person does in their off time. If you like a particular product why would you not support it other than for spite? I'm trying to understand the reasoning here.

You'll have to explain how supporting them for their products supports their ideology, I simply can't see the relation.

I'd like you to answer the question I asked before too, would you buy a bad game just because someone you like made it? That too me seems unreasonable and I would not do it.

Yacht Club Games is on friendly terms with most of your favourite twitter numales as well as publisher of Gunvolt: Xir edition for 3DS.

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Fuck off.

If you were going for reverse psychology, it worked, because I'm dropping my sage just to spite you, you coalburning degenerate. You don't even have the balls to post it unspoilered.
the product is being made by people who explicitly despise the medium they are producing for and the people who consume that media
are you blind or legitimately retarded?

meant to also quote

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The idea behind spoilering is that you don't know what it is until you've clicked on it, but since there's no point bothering now I won't.

Except the version they're publishing is using the retranslation that removes the Xe Xi Xo Xum.

Source?

This

I mean for fuck sake, the game doesn't even have any political agendas in it. Judge games on their merits, not the political opinions of a few people involved, that's just objectively retarded.

Good combat mechanics, appealing stylistic choices and enjoyable atmosphere. Bosses should've been harder though and there should've been more minibosses.

Alternate endings would've been great too.

Wait, people complained about no iframes? We have that many people THAT fucking shit at games here? Are you fucking serious? Game isn't even that hard and the lack of iframe was a good thing until they changed it due to casual whining because they have the reflexes of molasses.

Do these people even know how to do the basic shoot and slash cancel to dish out damage quickly?

Which doesn't change the fact that you're a coalburning degenerate. It's not even something shocking like snuff or mutilation, it's just disappointing that you even have that saved.

That's a strange way of asking for more.

yachtclubgames.com/striker-pack-press-kit/

Maybe they should have thought about that before they decided to mouth off in public about them.

Choices have consequences, but I know how hard that is to accept for leftists like you.

The indie scene is so incestuous that you kind of have to work with numales eventually.

Why the fuck does this confuse you so much user? I have my own idea and virtues that I strongly stand by and I don't want to support people that I think are cancer, it's simple. You just keep going on and on writing walls of text trying to deconstruct it.

You mean the single employee that said his opinions on twitter?

You're free to react however you like, little retard, that doesn't mean I can't call you retarded for acting like one however. But please, keep trying to come with retarded accusations that has no bearing on the discussion.

The Mount and Blade devs don't have to, but then again they are actually competent and don't feel the need to shit out their retarded insights into politics and the human condition.

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I'm very curious as to what your beliefs actually are, you say you don't understand the argument for separating a person from a product, I myself do not understand the argument for not evaluating products on their own merit.

Non-tangible products especially, video games actually do exist in a digital vacuum, the game you play now will not age, not degrade, and will not be influenced by other factors, in 200 years time this game will be exactly the same as it is now and the creator will likely be dead, will those external factors influence your judgment then, would the product change in value?

To me this seems like a contradiction, does it not to you? I honestly can't make sense of it. Even if it was the truth that works in my favor, these people don't like me yet they work for me, producing things I enjoy, that seems highly unlikely to be the reality but even if it was I still win because I still get a product I enjoy. The ability to separate the creator from the creation gives me impunity from these people, there's no way they'll uproot video games by producing enjoyable games for me to play.

I'm confused because I don't see how you're relating the two, off time and on time. There is a separation of the two, work and leisure. If I spend my off time making posts on twitter with my opinions you disagree with it has nothing to do with my work, how would it? Just because I made it? My opinions are not reflected in my work, if they were then it would factor into the product anyway which is what you should be judging alone.

And then I forgot to sage, fuck shit in my ass.

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I'll assume you meant to reply to me.

I suppose I'm trying to convey the confusion, there's something between us and we should do our best to find it if there's anything constructive to be had.

What would you have me do? You said yourself you don't understand something, I don't understand the opposite thinking, trying to come to an understanding of both sides is how either of us would come to a resolution, be it one way or another. I'm expressing how I think and I expect you to do the same, if you don't understand me ask for clarity and I'll do the same. Deconstructing your words into ideals and concepts is probably the only way I'll understand it, I have to restate it how I understand it as well just to make sure we're on the same page and that I actually understand you.

I don't know what you expect out of a discussion, if you want to understand it we have to discuss it, if you don't you're welcome to ignore me.

Why would he be punished for it?

Again, you're free to do what you want but I'm still going to think it's retarded to base your purchase of a product on a person's political views and leanings. It'd be one thing if they tried to push their politics through their game but they aren't.

So I don't see how it matters. You don't want buy the game because it means they get money? How does this change anything? It just means they get less money, it wont change their opinions, it wont magically make them realise the error of their ways.

If you want people to not push politics and agendas through their games, you need to show as a consumer that you don't want that. What you're suggesting is pretty much encouraging them to make walking simulators because "Hey, this small group that whine about social justice are the only ones buying my game which has no political agenda, I better pander to them instead".

Is that what you want you fucking tard?

Will they also fix the game being painful to look at, and the "secrets" all being a hug-the-wall-to-look-for-passages fest? Maybe then it'll be good enough for me to recommend pirating it, until then it isn't. I did pirate and beat it, for reference.

I would honestly people challenge them where they speak, there's no point in being indirect since it's not even apparent. Not buying a game shows nothing, replying to them directly at least shows you personally have a problem with the exact thing they're saying.

I don't think it's productive as most of these people are beyond help but at least it's unambiguous as to what you actually care about.

That I agree with. Debate and talk is how you cause change in people, albeit it's incredibly difficult most of the time and even nigh impossible.

People can, in my opinion, hold whatever opinions they damn please. As long as they don't try to push their ideals onto me through their product, I'm fine with whatever. If you make a good game without any bullshit in it, I'll buy it because I like it and want to see more made. It's how you encourage game devs to make good games.

it's sometimes easier to make stuff with constant framerate but then they could just

#define framerate 60;
const double timetodoshit = 1000/framerate;

Debate doesn't change jack shit, because these people absolutely refuse to hold a rational conversation. They censor, they silence, and they attack anyone who holds a differing viewpoint. I'm convinced you and the others like you in this thread are either newfags or shills, because you'd have to be one of the two to not already understand this.

The other user is right, you're definitely a leftist faggot if you don't understand that choices have consequences.

It's more important to consider the potential, while unlikely in this case, debate has the potential to change opinion, not purchasing a product won't change anything other than sales and monetary values.

You're giving your opinion for free and so are we, debating this is the only way either of us will change our opinions or come to an understanding of them, there's no product even involved here.

How would the absence of sales even be measured by the creator here, and why would they immediately assume it's because of their opinions and not because of the product itself.

Open mockery through social media is actually more effective than either sales or earnest debate. Whether or not SJWs make their shitty games has little to do with what your preferred game devs make; it's the pretense of validity of social justice that makes it effective. Once you point out how ridiculous the points are even SJW-learning people will shy away from enforcing those beliefs when there are people hounding them from every corner. People may not admit to it but GameGate succeeded in that area to a degree.

No one here is trying to forbid you to do anything, just like no one is forbidding me to call you a fucktard. Everything has a consequence, that's a simple fact of life, that doesn't mean you're some empty husk devoid of singular thought that can't make decisions for yourself on how to react towards things.

You don't seem to understand that shit though because you're seemingly trying to argue that what you do have no consequence while I'm saying that the consequence is me calling you a fucktard.

It's called having different opinions and you can resort to calling anything you like. It's not about "Not understanding", it's about not being a defeatist asshat that gives up because it's hard and just want to make excuses as to why they shouldn't try to argue or debate at all.

But I aint some weakass pussy, sorry to say.

I'd say judging games over "sjw devs" means you have the mentality of an idiot huehue. Thanks to the anons that give their opinions. Game looks interestingish but I don't think I'll get near the entertainment I got from Risk of Rain. Probably not gonna pirate. I usually like to have a ton of fun if it's a short game so this ain't worth for me.

I don't give a flying fuck what the creator thinks the reason is I didn't buy their game. I want absolutely nothing to do with these parasites, and have zero intention of giving them a single penny. Voting with your wallet is the only thing this industry gives a semblance of a fuck about, and that's exactly what I'm doing. Let them take their marxist bullshit and shove it up their asses. You can see it already, the bubble is bursting. Steam being forced to implement a refund policy already destroyed a huge number of these scumbags, and I will continue to not buy their garbage and shitpost about how bad they and their pathetic excuses for "games" are.

Nigger your "question" was answered multiple times in the thread already, eat a dig.
So not bothering to attempt a debate with people who have consistently refused to do exactly that for years makes me a defeatest? No, bowing down like a fucking cuck and giving them money despite them wanting you and everything you care about destroyed because "oh well they're here to stay" makes you a defeatist asshat. Take your bullshit and fuck off with it. No amount of mental gymnastics is going to guilt people into giving money to these parasites.

That's fine but don't pretend you're doing it for your hobbies sake if it's based on social reasons. If you liked games you would judge games, you seem to care much more about people than games. Again that's fine but just don't try to trick anyone, including yourself. I'm not trying to come off as snarky here either, I'm just making sure that's the position you hold.

Not enough enemy variety

You are reading what you're typing before you post it, right?

Just because you put it in quotes doesn't make it the case. You're welcome to tell me how producing games without social themes in it is destroying the hobby while protesting a game for social reasons is helpful and not akin to the people you're describing.

But that is not what the dev said for this game as far as I know.

Sort of different from having a political opinion or having some SJW leech in the credits wouldn't you say?

I was asking from you, but I guess you're a weak ass cunt that can't think for yourself. Shit, I'm sorry for thinking you have a mind of your own and your own ideas as to why the game shouldn't be supported.

My opinion would still be that choosing not to buy a game because of a name in the credits is pretty damn stupid, especially since names like Kanye West (I think?) is in the credits as well.

Considering that people are individuals? Yes. You're pretty much giving up because you don't have the energy, time and will to do it.

An individual stated his opinion as far as I know through twitter and you're basically saying "Fuck everyone in the company". You're providing some impressive mental gymnastics here user. I like the game so I personally see no reason not to buy it since the game has nothing to do with any political values.

Not everyone bases their purchases on what political leanings a person in the company has and it's perfectly fine if you do, but I still think it's dumb since it does nothing at best and at worst validate their opinions further because you're pretty much proving that their retarded preconceived notions of what gamers are to be true.

But go ahead and don't buy the game, it's your choice. I personally enjoy the game and bought it and that's all there is to it.

Agreed, I think I've only seen like, 10 different enemies at most? Possibly less. It's a shame since the game has so much more potential.

Still, I liked it personally but I dunno if I'd recommend it to anyone that's not really into hack and slash.

Nigger, how is "Making a good game" destroying your hobby? Having opinions and political leanings does not destroy the hobby and they certainly don't need money to spout their shitty opinions on twitter or whine angrily on the internet.

"I don't hate QTEs; I just wish they could be turned off."

Horatio Nelson

And there it is, the accusation it was only a matter of time before you made.
Eat. A. Dick.

First, you're continuing to push the hypothetical situation in which the SJW game is good. Hyper Light Drifer is far from good, and I wouldn't buy it even if it was made by my best friend.
Second, you're trying to imply that boycotting a game with Curry Thunder as a dev is different from boycotting a game with Literally Who directly affiliated. These people are actively doing anything and everything in their power to destroy my hobby and way of life, yet I'm somehow in the wrong for refusing to purchase a game with their name on it? Fuck off.
Then again, like a typical leftist you've devolved to personal insults as an actual argument

Do you see anyone in the company coming out and saying "we don't agree with what he's saying"? Do you see Bioware even attempting to put a lid on their lead dev saying he wants to murder white people and wishes all white people would die? No? Then shut the fuck up. It's an incredible double-standard that SJWs are defended with "it's just their opinion, man!" when anyone in the opposite position would be crucified for it. It's frankly amazing how far you're going to defend your shit taste in videogames, but damn.

My favorite part, though, is
Alright, put your money where your mouth is. I challenge you to attempt "debating" with any of these faggots you claim are individuals. Try debating with Curry Thunder about how unconditionally hating all white people makes him a racist, and see how far that gets you. Try debating any of the marxists on twitter about their ideology. Tell me how far you get before being dogpiled or just flat out blocked. I won't hold my breath.

Aberrant politics in a game are a good enough reason to boycott it.

We are here to play games, not to be played by them.

It is emphatically the same thing, you are a secondary through and through. Just because you are not an SJW does not mean you are not that kind of person, you're on the other side of the discussion but you're still on that same secondary tier, hovering over the hobby and not actually interacting with it directly. You put such an importance on people and not on the game, that's exactly what these people do, you seek out and disrupt discussion of these things just like they do, you masquerade around saying you care about the hobby while admitting to not even playing them, you are those people whether you want to admit it or not, you don't care about games you care about social politics and who agrees or disagrees with you.

Trying to rewrite what was said or deflecting away from the point won't convince me otherwise, you're a secondary shitter trying your best to fit into a hobby you don't care about.

There in lies the issue, where are the politics in this game? The only politics I see are coming from the people in this thread complaining because someone they don't like made it, whom they only don't like because they put someone else in the credits. How is any of this related to the game or more importantly the gameplay.

If people are here to play games why are they trying to find any means necessary not to play them, to dissuade others from playing them as well for social reasons, how is any of this game related? The only politics I see are external.

Because I've played it. Now, if the premise of the game, the game mechanics or whatever doesn't interest you, that's just fine. That's an objectively valid reason not to want to buy the game.

I am implying that saying "All white men are scum and should be eradicated" is different from having the name of some asshat in the credits, yes, and even then I would rather engage debate or send emails to the company and then make the decision of buying the game based on the quality of it and what it contains.

Then again, like a typical leftist you've devolved to personal insults as an actual argument
You're viewing this black and white as hell, you're assuming there's no variations.

And insults? You do realise where you are, right? your first reply to me involved calling me a "Leftist faggot". There's a reason I didn't call you out on it, because I'm not a hypocritical fucktard.

Why would they? The natural reaction of any person with common sense would be to assume that it's a personal opinion.

Which is why you send emails asking to either tell the dev to fuck off.

Why are you trying to equate "Fuck white men and kill them all" with a name in the credits? The former is clearly super shitty and more than just "An opinion", it's a threat and an insult and should be treated as such by calling for the man to be punished.

So you're basically admitting to being a sensitive little faggot then? Or am I supposed to be all sad and depressed because someone blocked me or because I get dogpiled? Blocking is pretty much saying "I can't refute/argue with this" or them just plain getting tired and giving up. Either way it's my win.

THIS.

I made a diagram for people who are slow on the uptake.

I'm bored of arguing with you faggots, so here are some images I've prepared for your kind. Yes, I should have just posted these to begin with and left it alone, but I was waiting for my rendering to finish and had nothing better to do.

I'll humor the last of your terrible points, though.
which means you're wrong, because those "some asshats in the credits" have said similar and worse
And if they make no attempt to show that they don't share that opinion, it can be inferred that they accept or even agree with that opinion
Which are ignored, because they don't give a fuck about you, only your money.
So you're basically admitting that is exactly what's going to happen to you if you try to "debate" them? You "win" the debate if they censor you or flat out block you from communicating? That accomplishes nothing, it's like winning the special olympics. Lol at you trying to imply I'm a thin-skinned bitch, though.

You're wrong. One calls for the destruction of the hobby, the other does not. Obviously those of us who support the hobby don't want it destroyed, ergo we won't support the person who is trying to destroy it in any means, especially in means so pervasive as infiltrating the hobby from within as a virus would.

You're trying to make this more complicated than it is.

What does it matter who made the game, if the game itself doesn't preach anything and is actually good?

daily reminder that shops are empty in socialism because goods are given away as soon as they are produced. Daily reminder that shops are full in capitalism because not everyone can afford what is being sold.

Before you type out your butthurt, just ask yourself, would more people buy sixty inch TVs if sixty inch TVs were free? of course

I agree, fuck From Software.

Explain to me how in a hobby of playing video games, telling people not to play video games without proper reasoning in relation to the game is not destructive to that hobby.

Absolutely not, I'm championing for the exact opposite, if the game is good play it, if not don't. Do not consider external factors like social politics. This is and has been my stance the entire time, judge products on their own merit.

If people want to say "don't buy this game it's shitty in these ways" that's fine, but going "don't buy this game, someone I don't agree with made it" that's ridiculous. Saying those people are destroying the hobby is even more ridiculous since they're creating games and not forcing anything external into it either. It's just a game, made by someone they don't like, and that's not a reasonable argument when talking about games since only the game itself should matter, I don't get how that is over complicating it.

To reiterate, gameplay trumps everything.

You run away when presented with a real argument just like them.

Really convinces me how much you care about what you're talking about.

You're also not quoting anything by me, you're straight up ignoring what I said again because you don't want to hear it. You are the tumblr stereotype.

Why waste the effort continuing to argue with a retard that's just repeating the same thing like a broken record? You will simply continue to cling to the fallacy that these people totally aren't doing anything to harm the hobby and that you should totally give them your money guys trust me I bought this indie pixelshit game and liked it xD

Nobody here believes your bullshit but you.

Do you at least understand why I would retain my position when you don't even put in the effort to convince me to change it yourself? If you don't care about your argument how can I? How can I understand your side if you don't even present one.

All you've done is act condescending and ironic, you haven't presented anything worthwhile and you don't even attempt to disprove me. You're a liar, either to me or to yourself. You do not care about video games.

Also I appreciate the compliment
At least you see that I haven't change my stance and am willing to actually put forth the effort to challenge retards like yourself trying to infiltrate this place.

I'll put a different argument from the user. I'll try to avoid going (12) or (13).
In my country after the USSR collapsed and we were independent, we decided that it was a smart idea to demolish a large portion of the Communist factories. There was also a decision to return the animals to the people, what a retarded thing. Turns out that fucked over animal farms. What I'm saying in my point of view is that you're a retard for wasting a perfectly okay game because "devs are sjews". The alt right is no better than the regressive left. You're the kind of retard that would destroy perfectly good factories because they were built by communists and somehow that makes them evil. The world was better off having conservatives and liberals. This is all a mistake for having such awful variations of these two varieties to exist because of the sheer political imbalance. It should be implied that the right will be willing to do social politics and the left economical and national politics yet neither is trying to. But of course if I say this I'm the neutral that thinks they're smarter than everyone else. I'm so sorry that I don't want to act like a socialist or a national socialist and would rather think practically.

You're comparing videogames to production factories. Do you realize how asinine you sound? That's extreme false equivalence. Factories can be put to use. Shitty games made by SJWs have little to no value to begin with, and yet again this is banking on the hypothetical scenario where SJWs actually make a truly good videogame.

Also, I forgot to mention that nothing is stopping anybody from pirating these shit games. This bonehead is arguing that people should actually buy this shit.

I thought you were implying to ban them completely. To me I just think that a decent game shouldn't just be buried due to the devs. Valve is pretty shit these days but I still like playing Half Life. Bethesda is utter cancer but I still play Morrowind regularly.

I just have the point of view that games that get wasted may get lost forever and no one will be able to find them. we've already lost thousands of games due to shit publishers and horrible DRM. Maybe that's just me though.

Also, I'm the kind of person that thinks that burning a book is a heresy so that's why I think even wasting a supposed sjw game is just bad.

Well said, I appreciate the effort user.

When did I say that? All I've said is to judge products based on their own merit and that bot buying it doesn't prove anything, that's not a case for buying it nor is it some kind of endorsement. The only problem I have is with people saying they're game hobbyists when they're graspig at straws to avoid playing, buying, or even talking about games(as in talking about the game not people around it).

Oh and the reason I mentioned the factories is that every single country in the world is full of retards and most will listen blindly and take things out of context. If you try to ban sjw games so hard they might destroy perfectly good corporations, factories, shops and so on because they don't have the ability to think decently.

not buying it

Then you didn't even bother reading anything I said, like the resident retard over there.

You're saying that voting with your wallet doesn't make a difference, which is wrong. You're saying that refusing to support the people trying to destroy our hobby means you aren't a real gamer, which is bullshit, and you're actively saying people should buy these games despite the SJW influence and openly admit to having done so yourself. Like I said earlier, go fuck yourself.

I only bothered reading half of the thread since the arguments were repeated a lot. Besides, everyone have different buying philosophies. I used to buy pirated games back in 2004 that were simply not available on torrent sites from a person. It was neat.

Back to your safespace, faggot. You still don't get it: we despise brainwashed people like you.

You fail to understand the reasoning behind that belief though which I have stated and will restate.

Voting with your wallet would work if the products was at fault, it is not. Not buying a product because you don't like someone will not send them any message other than "my products didn't sell, it must be bad", the product is not what you seem to have issues with it's the person behind it. Not buying their game will never convince them to change their opinions, those opinions are external to their products. The only thing it may do is convince them to change their product to appeal to a wider demographic to actually get sales. Voting with your wallet only works if a product is bad, if you have issues with the producers it won't stop them from doing anything other than finding a new market which in this case would be bad, instead of making real games they'd resort to actually appealing to anyone by pumping out garbage. Regardless of all of that though there's nothing you could do to change their opinions outside of talking with them about it, there's no way for them to know what you're frustrated about if you take no action, refusing to buy something is not an action, telling them not to do X in their game is, you don't even have to purchase it to do that either.

If you thought the game was bad you'd have a point and I would say to indeed vote with your wallet because you think the product is bad and thus you shouldn't support it. That's not the case here though, you may in fact dislike the game and be incidentally in the right here but I'm not sure since you haven't said so and I don't know if you yourself know. That's besides the point though, that kind of discussion is miles better than this tripe we've been talking about, actual game discussion is what should be happening not this twitter tier bullshit.

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying judging a game on anything but gameplay makes you not a real gamer which I don't think is an insane claim, someone who says their hobby is games should care about games first, not social politics.

Not true, I'm saying this game does not have SJW influence to begin with so there is no argument for boycotting it to begin with.

You'll have to point out where I did that, maybe you misunderstood something.

Hail check

Holy shit, what the fuck has happened? Is the game fixed enough to play? The only post worth reading is

I don't think upping the framerate will improve the game dramatically, but I think it's worth a playthrough. I really liked the music and visuals but those aren't gameplay. The maps are cool and the combat feels good but I think the game is too easy, there are fun tense moments to have in that game but they're spread out too far and they can be short lived. I had a much better time on my second playthrough where your life is limited further.

I don't regret my time with it, if you can find a download I would recommend trying it.

ftfy

Thank you I'll give it a try. Also this I take back what I said, always try before you buy.

(((7de90b)))

Bumping the thread for my attention or what?

They're also based in Turkey.

As long as they don't suck off Erdokike's dick.

And look at where we are today. throwing money at faceless corporations without knowing their intentions has fucked up the economy and every other entertainment industry around the world. We should take a second to see who we are giving our money to and what their intents are.

Wouldn't they not buy on the fact that they're free?

I wonder if the developer is still here, I wanted to ask him stuff.
Like why did you try 2D instead of 3D?
Isn't making one 3d animation easier than making many 2d animations for every angle?
Does steam still take 7% of your sales?
Do you get paid directly to your bank account?
Can you control the exact price of your game and when it's on sale?

I'm okay with Holla Forums types here, it was jarring on cuck/v/ when anyone's shadow was told to "fuck off Holla Forums" as well as topics and posters banned. But this thread is ridiculous, tone it down a bit.

It's 30%, unless these guys got a special deal for some magical reason.

It's just a couple e-celebs in credits that nobody reads, actual devs don't even have any political agenda.

You're really desperate to shill your shitty game. No one cares, you spit on your audience and they have forsaken you. Learn asshole, learn.

>you spit on your audience and they have forsaken you

They are Marxist filth. Jews are good at all manner of things, doesn't mean tolerating their existence is a good idea for any nation they inhabit.

Instead of spouting buzzwords can you back your shit up with anything?
Did they make any public statements on politics?
Does their game propagate any ideas?
They're just a bunch of faggots who made a video game and care about their playerbase.

Just leave it. For all we know that faggot is a CTR/goon trying to fuck up your enjoynment of Holla Forums. Divisive tactics are quite effective sometimes.

Yes.

Doesn't matter. They are members of a colluding group that has proven beyond any doubt they mean harm to the gaming community. Tolerating one, no matter how "benign" is to tolerate them all based on the same principle.

They're a bunch of leftist faggots. That's all that matters, that's all that is important here. Tolerating them is to set vidya on the path of Holla Forums.

Do you know what CTR even stands for?

Link?

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It gets boosted unfairly through the clique and its journo cronies that's enough reason to not buy those games.

Anyone who supports Anita is either dishonest or dumb.

Holy shit, if this is real then I just can't buy this game. Femenism is not a good thing for society and it's not a good thing in games either.

This. I don't see the need to be so principled as to buy games from people they don't support. I can understand why GamerGays don't want their platform being coopted by boycotts but personal decisions not to buy games are just that.

If I go into a store and the shopkeeper insults and slanders me, I will leave that store, buying nothing, and urge others to do the same.

I see no reason not to do the same in the case of a video game developer doing exactly that.

I can admit that an SJW's game is good and yet not financially support him. If it was - miraculously - a masterpiece, and if I was certain monetary support would go towards making more exceptionally games like that - only then would I ever not pirate an SJW's game. In the current state of video games however, such a thing is an absolute rarity and any dev who espouses SJW values is less likely to make masterpieces as at best these values stand in the way of making great games anyway

See
Their audience is overwhelmingly male, and they're shitting on men.

Who the fuck said anything about buying it?

Where do you think you are?

>a thread informing people about a new update takes a secondary path and has a suprisingly decent debate on buying over games and/or their creators beliefs
9.3/10

Get a job, hippie.
I buy what I like when I want to support a dev. In this case, the dev isn't worth supporting for being a femicunt.

Stop projecting m8

Who said anything about buying this shit? Show me.

Oh come on, this is every second thread on full/v/. For good and bad. For me bad since I know it all already and am tired of seeing it repeat over two years now for most of the culprits.

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You're really reaching there, m8, hell you and me make up a few of those and they're all in the negative sense.

Get a life, cunt.

I'm glad nobody is actually discussing the game, because it's a piece of shit.

For your metaphor to hold water there would have to be something on the game's storepage, advertising material, or in the game itself that offends you, not something you had to actively seek out on the creator's social media accounts.

Try reading the thread.

Hell, that one particular fag that makes up almost 10% of the thread just keeps on arguing you should buy it.

Are you stupid?

PoE is shit anyway. Assuming it's not the other PoE, Path of Exile

If it's not happening in game then who gives a shit?

Saying that there's no good reason to boycott something is not an endorsement to buy it. Saying you don't like someone is a terrible reason for why a game is bad. If you say anything about the gameplay that's fine but nobody is doing that, the only argument against this game seems to be "but someone I don't like made it" which is unreasonable.

The gameplay is uninspired and too simple once you grasp enemy AI (they removed a lot of interesting ideas because playtesters found them too hard), the main meat of the game is searching for secrets that are hidden in extremely shitty ways in most cases, and constantly having to slog through the same areas to look for one particular secret is annoying as fuck. Especially with the respawning enemies.
I'd also point out the drifting is shit, but I pirated it when it came out and heard someone mention earlier that was changed so I don't know. But I also have no interest in finding out. Partially because the game itself is shit, and partially because playing it for more than 20-30 minutes seriously makes my eyes hurt.

I'm not giving money to people who hate me and want to fuck me over. It's that goddamn simple you slack jawed retard. Nobody here wants to buy your awful pixelshit game. Fuck off already.

Nice memeorino user. I love rick and morty.

Much better.

You don't know this person and will never even interact with them but you're afraid they're going to fuck you over in a game somehow. What are you even afraid of outside of the game, posts on the internet? I'll say again how dumb this whole thing sounds given the people you deal with on a daily basis, I'll assume you have no problem paying others for the products you want but this one is different because you know about it up front or were told to think that way, do you interview every cashier, manager, owner, etc. before any purchase just to make sure they're not supporting what you dislike? The whole thing seems unpractical and self spiting, if you like the game you should play the game, if you don't then don't, why complicate things by factoring in people, why even give them the attention they're after? That's as bad as when people won't play a game because someone they don't like also plays it. I can't understand how people let themselves be dominated like that over the smallest things, it's almost ironic given what you just said about not getting fucked over.

Really makes you think.

What was your favourite boss?

I enjoyed fighting the frog bird priest thing. Really made me have to get good when i was playing new game +.

Do you think The Avengers was a better movie than Citizen Kane because it did better at the box office? Do you think CoD is better than Half-Life: Opposing Force? Go back to whatever social media normalfaggot nest you crawled out of.

That's a surprisingly on point analogy. Unlike Citizen Kane, games like these and Nu Male's Sky get unfairly praised and astroturfed becoming mediocre trendster shit.

I'm honestly confused by that last pic

so it's saying because the way of obtaining games has been buying them and thus incentifying the devs into making more games you like, this is in turn bad because of where we are currently and how we haven't weeded out bad games through voting with our wallets?

So like devs care about their game and fix their fucks up but are also feminists.
Are there any based devs without political bullshit left?
I remember BOI dev not being a feminist, but he was a huge dick and like to fuck with his fans just because he was so full of himself and went on nerf rampage to make his game as unfun as possible.
Then there were ROR publishers who went and did the whole Starbound scam.
Who do I even support these days?

I can't really think of too many developers that I would say deserve my cash nowadays honestly. So I pirate anything that dosen't have a multiplayer component that I acutally want to play.

Last two games I bought where splatoon and smash wii u. Can't say that I regret either purchase lots of good times where had.

But yeah, its hard to find devs who acutally deserve my cash in any way shape or form now. Thats why I just pirate the fuck out of games like this.

They also thanked zoe quinn

Nah

Social media is public announcement.

If you say it three times maybe you can justify your bogey man. ;^3

SJW SJW SJW!

And public announcement is not
that's a statement addressed directly to you in a place of business. In your metaphor you're refusing to patronize a certain business because you overheard the owner express communist sympathies in a public space, separate from their business.

I don't follow gay games, but I'm wondering:

did they just implement a 60fps version of the game? like, is the framerate still locked to 60fps and not variable?

It would depend on what this developer actually says on his twitter. If he says something along the lines of "people that aren't commies are chumps," then of course that should spill into his marketing, since he's slandering his customers.

I'm not going to give money to someone who talks shit about me outside of his place of business anymore than I will someone that talks shit to my face.

marketplace*/place of business*

I'm curious what people think about anonymous releases, if the author chose to release this without their name attached would it magically make this product more valuable? The only thing that has changed is the meta around it.

paying up? no
pirating… maybe, if you are bored, and dont have anything better to waste bandwidth on

Yes, and the long term consequences are real.
Here's another indie darling that has been boosted by "press", because the dev is friends with the right people and supports their politics. The game could even be decent, but it could also be garbage because quality doesn't matter to those people.
On the other hand, you have the same "press" slamming games and devs that don't support their politics.

If you pay for that game regardless, what message does it send to devs who aren't a part of the clique?

The indie scene is so incestuous that nothing short of mass flood of fresh developers will change it. Sadly that's been happening but with fresh out of university SJWs.