F:NV

and yes this is kool-aid. but I also drank the kool-aid

LEGION DID NOTHING WRONG

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Its not even a matter that. Its a matter of the fact the NCR is a corrupt bureaucratic shithole that actually manages to do more harm to trade caravans than good, an independent vegas is out of the question because we all know how Freeside turned out. I guess you can side with Mr. House but if you do that there's still no guarantee the NCR wont get a hold of the Dam

The only correct choice is Legion, Ave Caesar!

Doing my first play through after finding the complete edition at my local shop for 12 bucks. Just finished old world blues and about to do dead money. Honest hearts was great, the little bit about the new cannanites connection with John Moses Browning made the /k/ommando in me clean my 1911 after hearing Graham talk about it.
Really loving the game, I grew up watching westerns with my dad so this just hit a special place in me.
Are dead money and lonesome road on the same level as the others? It's hard for me to believe that dlc is this well made.

Phew

Lonesome Road is a bit of letdown due to all the build up leading to it. The showdown with Ulysses is pretty underwhelming. In fact, Ulysses is pretty underwhelming himself. People are pretty divided on Dead Money, mostly due to how the cloud and radio signals work. I personally think it's the best well written dlc.

I say self rule because your basically a messiah that has garnered more of a reputation then Mr. House with ncr and legion being the only things bigger then you.
which brings up the question. how the hell did the brotherhood of steel come back after being nearly destroyed on both fronts? did fallout 4 fallout 3 it again?

And on another note. Mr.house house wants to build another America inside America. he realizes how the world works, that the only way to change the minds of the people is to give them an offer they can't refuse because of how good it is. the only thing that people could be upset about under his rule is his watchful eye. most endings talk about how the securitrons don't do anything bad to anybody. but they're always around.
the only thing that confuses me is how he managed to let somebody like benny get the better of him.

Raul is one of the best roles Trejo has ever had. When I found out he voiced Raul, I rushed black mountain.
And thanks for your input, I'll lower my expectations for lonesome rode and will pay closer attention to dead money's plot n shit.

You can do a better job than any of the other idiots.

What about the legion?

I don't think the legion would be down with making a deal

Well I guess "nearly" comes into play here

While I don't see the legion allowing anyone but caesar having any self determination, it could be flipped. The problem with the legion is they constantly change the terms of a contract, making people less willing to deal with them. Maybe setting up the player character as a warlord that the legion has to respect or be destroyed.

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DEUS VULT

Caesar did good in Arizona, but he's just an insecure manlet with a limp dick and a brain tumor. NCR isn't even worth mentioning. House is the Holla Forumsack choice.

Lanius is a fucking moron.

I will inherit the throne as my Legionaries declare me Imperator on the day of Caesars death.

I will slay Lanius like the pagan dog he is and proclaim New Vegas God's new city, the glorious city of New Constantinople.

Why have I seen Constantinople mentioned a lot recently? Have I been missing out on a dank new meme?

Trejo is a prime example of how to use celebrities for voice work. Give them an interesting character, and make them do more than five lines. It's funny how F:NV also has an example of how it usually turns out with Matthew Perry.

Because the wound has yet to be staunched.

Don't think for a moment that House's life support is reliable; he's literally the only one who has it or understands it and it has to fail some time. The legion would fall apart in a few years without Caesar, and the Strip would fall apart in a week without House.

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Legion is a bunch of stupid homeless men in a disgusting waste land pretending to be Romans.

You forgot the part about buttfucking each other.

No he didn't

I thought that was reserved for the political class.

Degenerates like you should be fucking crucified.

Independent Vegas is literally the only right answer. The NCR is complete shit, the Legion will eat away at itself the second Caesar dies, and Mr House is a fucking moron who wants to reign over Vegas and his moon colony that never would have happened like his stupid snowglobes. With Independence, Yes Man both has access to all of Mr House's data and the ability to continue your will long after your death, and you have access to all of the technology in Big MT and one of the Sierra Madre Vending Machines, which can be reverse engineered by those at Big MT.

See, that's fine. The Courier taking over the Legion is something I don't have a problem with.
The problem is when dumbasses think the Legion has a future without an invincible cyborg god leading them to victory. Do Legionfags also forget that Caesar's entire regime is built on misinformation and lies? Who's the real kike here?

Legion is literally a meme faction.

Legion is what you get when you ask a highschooler straight outta history professor Finklestein's class about ww2 what fascism is like. Doesn't help that Rome fell precisely because they integrated people from all races.

Why do you NCR cucks always repeat this garbage? Not even North Korea has fallen apart after it's dictators have died.

Didn't Yes man show some signs of gaining independence at the courier ending? Or am I thinking of something else?

Why exactly is everyone saying that self-rule is best? Its made pretty fucking clear that with the self-rule option, everything in New Vegas stagnates. Nothing has a chance to get better, only worse.

It's not exactly practical to implement people not from different racial backgrounds in a post-post apocalyptic setting.

Someone at Obsidian, probably Avellone, confirmed that when Yes Man said he was going to be programmed to "be more assertive", he meant that he would be programmed to only obey you.

Well, all of the former NK dictators had sons to take over after they died so your argument is null in that regard.

That's what everyone says about the Legion, even ex-Legion members. That's the entire reason why Caesar was pushing to conquer Vegas so hard, so he would actually have the ability to start an empire instead of being a upjumped tribal warlord.

Of course it fucking is, more than ever. Even in ancient Rome everything was fine until they ran out of gibs, at which point everyone went back to racialism and the country ripped itself to pieces. Nothing good's ever come from mixing races

Not only that, but the NK dictators have fooled their population into thinking they're divine beings. Caesar was just a very well respect warlord.

North Korea has been getting support from China and other places for years

I think he means different tribes in this context. The way the legion handled it is good enough though once you kill all the resentful adults that may try to fight back and teach the kids the only loyalty is to Caesar and his legion

Ah I see. I figured that he would attempt to take it over for himself for some reason, since the game's undertones of greed

Uh, no, Caesar literally tells his troops that he is the son of Mars.

Then where can I find non-mixed peoples in a American post-post apocalyptic pseudo-wasteland?

It's America AND hundreds of years later

You fags need a sense of loyalty and appreciation. You could give him MT and vendor tech, and the space colony isn't far-fetched

Looking white is good enough

Tell that to the Germanic (((migrants))) and the Celts

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It's just more faux Roman bullshit that none of his soldiers actually grasp. They're nothing but half-wit tribals playing dress up.

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That doesn't mean he's not telling people he's a fucking demigod.

For what reason would I be loyal to house? When you get down to it, House is the reason that fuckface Benny shot me in the head
He's a faggot dedicated to a shiny patch of land with delusions of grandeur

A lotta loyalty for a prune man

House is the only reason New Vegas exists, without it the Mojave would be nothing but even fewer few tumbleweed towns. House wasn't responsible for Benny becoming a kike

Yes he was, House raised Benny out of being a filthy tribal nigger. He would've been just another spearchucker if House hadn't shown him better.

Can you refresh my memory? I don't remember any of the legion soldiers or commanders I talked to referring to him as the Son of Mars or alluding to him being seen as a demi-god. He was revered by his men, no doubt about that, but I don't think it ever went to full on worship like the North Koreans have for their dictators.

Caesar himself says it

If house payed more attention to his little protege, then nothing that the courier did, except lonesome road, would have happened

Caesar starting calling himself that when he was 24, right before he established his capital city. I'm pretty sure he talks about it.

Where do you get that impression? If you played Still In The Dark you'd realize the Brotherhood is in dire straits and that they were making multitudes more enemies than the could replenish inside their organization with their elitist, exclusive rules. Many key figures of the Brotherhood expressed doubt and acknowleged their way of life was a dying dead end.

That's a contradiction, and one of the core reasons House's megalomaniacal scheme is a net negative.

Because he's not the infallable techno-Jesus that House apologists believe he is. He's just another much older man that has aspirations of power.

This thread is filled with lots of faggots who don't want to make New Vegas into Rome. This greatly displeases me, The Legion is the only logical option because man would go back to his roots. The Old World caused the fucking apocalypse, House is a jew, Benny is a jew, NCR is REALLY fucking jewish, and you are a jew if you go independent, period.

So you want a bunch of uneducated sodomites running Nevada?
You sound like the Jew here.

Best solution is BoS and House co-administrate the NV region and broker a non-aggression pact between the Legion and the NCR by threatening to destroy the dam.

No, user. In fallout 4 the brotherhood have the biggest dicks in the wasteland again for some reason
Bethesda didn't get the point and made the capital wasteland section of the brotherhood get super beefed up thanks to the "youngest, toughest, bestest" elder ever

user, if Caesar takes New Vegas he would create Rome. He spent a lot of years building up his Armies and faith from his men, and if he can secure a place like New Vegas with lots of resources and women, he could do it. Easily. That's how Rome began the first time after all, remember the Sabine women?

If you consider every bethesada made game non cannon, shit becomes much more believable

Truer words aren't spoken often, although speaking of F4 they did mention the NCR once

Literally once, is that tongue and cheek to Obsidian

Yes Man is a massive liability, all you have to do is go up to him say "hey help me betray Benny" and he'll basically say "okay!" with enthusiasm. The independent ending has him change his mind about that, but it's very ominous instead of reassuring.

The Bethesda team is jealous, obsidian made a better game with better characters, plot, gameplay and with actual branching story.
Obsidian showed them up hard.

I'm fairly confident the reference was in the context of older Fallouts, not New Vegas because now Bethesda thinks they own the intellectual rights to F3's predecessors.

My theory is reinforced by the second reference I have actually found where the robot detective guy has a case on the "Mysterious Stranger" perk that is throughout all the games. In it he mentions the stranger has been spotted in NCR, Shady Sands, Capital Wasteland and Commonwealth.

Bethesda is childlike to not be able to let go of inferior games (F3 & F4) so they ignore and clandestinely slander Obsidian's good product.

Didn't the only mention they even gave to New Vegas was that there was rumors about an alien city under Nevada and the NCR was investigating it?

It's baffling to me that normalfags still think 3 is the better game

I have a friend who thinks this. When I pressed him on it, the only reason he had was the radio announcer. He went into more details about the player's actions than Mr. New Vegas did, which he said made him feel like his actions had more meaning than they did in New Vegas.

I don't like your friend.

Your friend is a fucking idiot. Gnr was fucking retarded and thank fuck you can skip everything regarding 3 dog.

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But Mr. New Vegas does talk about the courier's effect on the game world, he just doesn't do it in Three Dog's over the top way

anybody else want to enjoy F:nv with mods but shit like this keeps happening

Is the .exe 4gb patched?

You should apply to Bethesda writing team.

thanks, I didn't know this was a thing

only problem now is the ENB isn't working

Assuming the MC sides with the Legion and Caesar is alive by the end of it that's very well possible. I can't think of anyone who would willingly side with Lanius after all you've done and Caesar puts your face on a coin.

nvm fixed it

I think you mean free vegas friend

I thought he wanted to increase taxes on the NCR for the use of the Dam's electricity + water.

Well House had sent Victor to guard over Goodsprings who pulled you out of the grave and brought you to Doc Mitchell. He also paid you for services rendered.

There's literally no reason to be against House other than being a power hungry tyrant yourself.

Let's see…

-House also is responsible for "raising" Benny.

-His empire is even more tenuous than the legion, an economy built on tourism and gambling, The three tribes acting as his muscle actively and covertly conspire against him (if not for the courier the omertas were going to gas vegas for example).

-House himself is a greedy tyrant who used his pre-war connections to set himself up as king shit of turd mountain, instead of you know, warning others or trying to save anywhere else but a fucking barren desert.

-There is a heavy implication that house runs on good intentions but is otherwise incompetent.
-Didn't get the chip in time
-Couldn't secure the chip without getting back-stabbed
-Destroyed an entire vault to prevent a possible ambush, but can't even stop infiltrators like Vulpes from getting into Vegas.
-Left freeside to rot because he couldn't extract shekels from it, freeside becomes a lawless hell of rampant crime and poverty.
-Entire plan literally revolves around a poker chip, and much like NCR he is destined to fail without the direct aid of the courier.

Wild card is not even a real choice in the context of the universe, but a failsafe for retards who murder all the faction leaders in the game. Even with the Gary Stu courier it's still worse than becoming House's protege.

Daily reminder that this faggot is the courier.

What? It's a totally plausible choice. Murdering someone and taking all their shit is a tale as old as time, and some people already doubt House even exists as is. Taking his Securitron army only makes sense.

Of course I say this in the context of the shitty Fallout games (Fallout 3 and on). The first and second would never have a plot this retarded, and sadly NV is the most sensible of the new games.

We had many FO:NV mods threads for a while. I always had those open in a tab to check when I wanted to play FO:NV again, but always lost them because of firefox crashing, problem with electricity etc. Did anyone save those threads/name of the mods said in those threads? I seriously don't feel like creating a thread for FO:NV mods because we had too much of them

source?

The MC is not even official part of the Legion.

Legionfags love cock.

kek

Freeside being a lawless shithole is completely intentional. House allows the people of Freeside to live as their own free people without his rule and they don't have to pay any taxes to him.

Hell to enter The Strip doesn't actually involve paying money just having money.

Where's that Matrix image with "We created this thread 49959569896 times" when you need it?

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That's actually a new argument I haven't heard before.

he didn't vult so good

bump for House is still the best choice