Balkan Anons needed

I can't pinpoint you at the exact cause and reasons why the ethnicities started flipping the fuck out. I just know one thing, the serbs fucked up big time, because at some point, because they were the primary governing sector for yugoslavia, had most of the police forces under their control and also a very sizeable military, they started getting abusive towards croats, primarly. It was around this time, that slovenia and croatia started making propositions to help with the economics and various other things, and they were all shut down without mercy by the primarly serbian dominated yugoslav council or whatever the hell it was (let's be honest, it was probably "(((serbs)))" that had their seats in there). Imagine America, but instead of niggers you have croats that follow laws and do their work properly, yet still get treated like niggers. That's when tensions started heating up, and they felt more and more like an oppressed folk. A nationalistic spirit started brewing up in them, when at one point, being called an ustase (similiar to nazi today) was the greatest insult, it became more and more an badge of honor.

The tipping point, as many said, was this football game between dynamo zagreb (croatian "national"team) and red star belgrade (serbian "national"team) youtube.com/watch?v=En6wViD1jtY
the gist of it is, that big ass riots broke out, and one of the croatian national players did a fucking flying knee on one of the cop bastards that beat up a croat fan earlier. And things just kept escalating from there.

Ironic, how you mention that racial divide is making itself apparent in sports in light of this.

Both of my parents did not participate in the war, though my mother and numerous relatives were in the war zones in which battle happened.

How it went down was like this (And I may have some events mixed up time-wise):
- Serbian "protestants" started occupying police stations in croatian territory, and they did this to quite a few, until shootings started happening
- The serbians then claimed that the croats are oppressing and committing crimes against the serbian people, and called for the yugoslav army to step in and restore order.
Now, since they were in majority control of the army, it is pretty clear what they were going with this
- The yugoslav army obliges (shocker)
- Despite having no guns (as most barracks were under yugoslav/serbian supervision and the ammunition stockpiles in most of croat territory were emptied prior to the invasion), the croatians mustered up a defense from paramilitary forces (the legend of HOS is born)
- They declare indepence, become a sovereign state
- Serbia fucks around with slowenia a bit, but they got BTFO and nobody wanted anything to do with them anyway, so they just let them piss off
- With foreign aid and sheer will of the croatian people, the battle against an overwhelming enemy is brought to a brutal, brutal 4 years long campaign, in which croatia emerged victorious.
And let me tell you, for all this serb worship that is sometimes peaking up, the cowardly behavior and neglect they showed when mortaring our people for months, day and night, proves how little they actually deserve any of it.

That's just as far as I can tell you, from my memory. There are some mistakes in here, I'm sure, so if you are more interested, look up some videos of first hand accounts on the war, and there will be comments about the ethnicity problems be abound for sure. I hope I could help you.

You niggers know that this basically means the entire USA having California's demographics, right?

Most of them are subhuman Squatamalans, not part-White mestizos
dream on

Yup. I'm certainly not excited/hoping for this outcome, but if Europe doesn't either kick the Mudz out soon or rise up in revolution they will be FAR worse off than that by the 2030's-2040's. I'm starting to think accelerationism is the only way forward…

Even so, a full Amerindian isn't as bad as a Nigger (or most sandniggers for that matter).

make a joke about Tito of to the Goli okok ¸+ Udba agents everywhere 2 in my village
Go to the mandatory army service and be questioned where was your grandpas seventh cousin and why did he give a lofe of bread to the Ustashi that one time
you mean they couldn't supply there forces because of Croatia and Bosnia

pick one
the war stop because nobody cud gain any more ground whiteout significant loses and we were tired of war

good attempt but some fuckups and meany impotent things left out

your life in Yugoslavia depended upon who you are and at what time it was eider grate or shit

if you wanna understand the Yugoslavian war you must understand the history of the people from the Ottoman invasions to the war the TL;DR version is we all hate each other whit various degrees but we all hate serbia the most

You understand.
Most importantly two things which I will elaboraberate.further:
Cro let JNA roll.across their.territory thinking they will.destroy us
2 national homogenity
We were ready to fuck off the world.
Defend what is ours regardless of cost of opponent.
No one helped us
We did it.on our own
I believe US Anons can do the same

Big love to white US

Don and Mel is the best thing that happrned to Western Hemisphere

Slovenia.
Remember always this name.
Nation of 2.000.000 who does not.acknowledge any force beside their own

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We are the epitome of what you think when you read "slav"
We are the ones that always come up.on top
We.are the ones that have victory written in our DNA
This is who DON married
This is who Barron is.
A warrior.
Godspeed US

Not sponsored

People may yell "MUH SUBHUMAN" but one of the good things about Communist Albania was that the government enforced *mandatory* guerrilla training to every fighting-age citizen, including women.

That's really interesting. I suppose it's like WW2 films from Hollywood. It's heresy to not cheer at every dead German.

>youtube.com/watch?v=En6wViD1jtY
Kek at that soccer player.

Thankyou for your response.

Can't say your odds are wrong though. Obviously I'd rather right to liberate my own country but if thinks break out in Europe first, I'll do whatever I can to aid my brethren in Europe.
One problem I foresee is that if the USA is able to limp on, they will take sides and meddle with European conflicts. And if, as you predict, the US "Brazilifies" we all know which side of a White vs Brown conflict "America" will take.

I'll take this opportunity to send.love to all balkans,
And to our brothers Polska!
Bratje

Basically everyone thinks that if Serbs were wiped out there would be everlasting peace in the balkans, and thus the world.

Serbs disagree.

There is some conflict resulting from this.

You will notice G.D. wearin cross in the.middle.of Istanbul. Because.it.is.ours

Veni vidi Vici

Anyways OP it is not comparable. But we are closely watching and support you

Depending on the severity/ size of the conflict it could even spark action back over here. Imagine the redpilling potential if the muzzies in Sweden just started rampaging en masse and racking up thousands of kills.

Actually I'd say it's totally dependent on the nature of the specific conflict. Even if we were already Brown'd, Mexicans don't have any special love for Arabs (or Nigs) and I think our overarching military strategy [building up Intermarium] will remain largely intact. The media will of course try to paint whatever they can pro-Muslim (exhibit A: Myanmar) but their powers over the narrative are weakening while White racial solidarity is growing.

Usa has a very specific way to win.
Mind that in athletics we dwarf you
But get stronger bros
Phelps comes to mind

Thankyou. We will certainly try.
Love from USA.

This is true. What I expect to see is more of this as White America increasingly becomes aware of our minority status. Perhaps this will lead to real fighting.

It seems to me that this is what set off the war in Yugoslavia. Serbs were the majority but not in Kosovo. So in response to Albanian takeover, they elected Milosovic. He then misjudged the willingness of other states to go along with Serbia. The Croats & Slovenes realized that they were now a minority and fought back, defeating the Serbs. Then the Bosnians realized that they were a minority & then a clusterfuck happened in Bosnia-Herzegovinia. Then NATO & the UN got involved and finally when the Croats started gaining ground, the Serb forces cut their losses and gave up.

sauce for video pls

O
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either lefty / balkan
Have some.fucking rakijA/šnopc and.enjoy

This.is norcal
We.all.over this place
MAGAAA

can't seem to find the HD version, but take this one for now:

MUCH LOVE!
MAGA

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Finally re-discovered this gem. If I remember correctly it is well worth the read.

not this guy, I'm ancestrally related to them

fucking NATO shills

do you have a favourite sports team? Does someone else follow another team? Are they insufferable bastards who should just fucking die? Did they rape your women and steal your land? How hard is it to understand?

Indigenous you retard.

2nd

Confirmed prepare for shtf by looking at cases that already happened. Stock up in reliable friends/family guns and the basics.

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Do you realize that redpilled Americans have been saying this every year since the 50s and literally nothing has ever happened at all. Rockwell thought collapse was imminent and the DOTR would come any day. Same with Koehl, Tommasi, Pierce, the Order, Combat 18, etc etc etc. Things get worse and worse beyond comprehension and so every moment is the worst it's ever been and we all think it can't possibly get much worse and things must blow up soon but it never does. People will never wake up. The system won't collapse within our lifetimes or possibly our childrens'. Politics has been a dead end since the fall of the Reich. The only path forward for us is the Mason/Vikernes strategy of forming local autonomous cells which transition to traditionalist communities that detach from society and try to outlast the system. Once it finally collapses, we ride from the hills and fulfill our destiny as the Umman Manda.

In a regional collapse, get out before the airports close. Go anywhere else. The citizens who died in the Balkans waited too long, or didn't have enough money to get out.

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Loved that. Good old survivalblog.

Read my post. Even in the midst of all this racial tension, in regular life (like walking through a Walmart or going to a post office) the races interact amicably. I'm trying to reach out to people who went through a real "race war" to find out how things broke down there. I'm not saying that Yugoslavia = America/West Europe or that any of the factions in the war are comparable to any of the racial factions in America/West Europe. I am merely trying to understand what a society on the edge looks like and extrapolating from there.

That certainly is a dark outlook. By the year 2040 or so, Whites will be a minority in America and by 2050, in many Western European nations as well (assuming current trends continue). By 2100, if nothing is done, we may end up in South Africa or Brazil. I hope you're wrong but I can't say I entirely disbelieve you. You're right about the many false predictions and you could very well be right that things will continue on until our race is a tiny, anthropological curiosity in countries ruled by foreigners. A small, powerless ethnic group in a nation ruled by the conflict between Mestizos and Blacks. And because of our "White privilege" and the "evils of our race" we'll get no mercy from our ruling overlords.
We're already treated like the Helots of Laconia. Whites are punished severely for even the smallest "microaggressions" like not holding an elevator for a Black or preferring to be with our own People. We're not allowed even the slightest misstep before we're pummeled into submission to keep us "respectful" of the privileged races. When we're in the minority and powerless, the punishments will get even more severe and more arbitrary. And much more violent, carried out on an individual basis by gangs of the majority when a cracker gets uppidy.

Can confirm.
Mother constantly told me how it was better in her time, and how great Yugoslavia was. One day I asked her was any family member in the party. Turns out grandpa was a card carrying party member. They got a free apartment and gibs out of it, while my friend's grandfather got Goli Otok'd for a joke, because they weren't in the party.

And now, for a recap of the countries of the balkans:
Albania:
Should be a burning hole in the ground right about now.
Bosnia:
Same, split the country between the Croats and Serbs after removing kebab
Herzegovina:
Rightful Croatian clay
Kosovo:
Burning hole in the ground 3.0
Croatia:
I'm obviously biased, greatest country in the world, 98% hwite, uncle adolf called us based, and we even manage to outdo the jews on the "small population with greatest contributions to civilization" scale
Slovenia:
Generally OK, but that bay is ours
Hungary:
Good people
Macedonia:
hwat now?

thats retarded.
the whole point of US politics is to make people think their opinions matter.
in reality theyre fed MSM bullshit and go to cast their ballot for one of the 2 only existiong options, both of which work for the same guys.
the mere fact that he became a major party candidate means (((they))) are ok with it.
i cant beleive people on here are so new or so stupid to fall for "muh democracy"

You omitted Serbia.
Also, Greece & Bulgaria are part of the Balkans too, are they not?

why cant you write a single post instead of spamming all that?
t. sonarodnjak

this.

I never mentioned Trump, I never mentioned democracy. So why are you here with your old meme with nothing relevant to say?
Is this some sort of derailment? Because you're kind of late and even if you bring your "friends" (extra IDs) this thread is pretty harmless to whatever cause you champion. Me chatting with Balkan buddies doesn't affect anything.

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I don't really have that strong of an opinion on Bulgaria and Greece.
Serbs, I generally dislike, because they think they're hot shit, and that they should have everything, when in reality they're a half-turk, second world shithole. The kebab removal meme is also annoying, because the serbs got assfucked by the ottomans, and then got given to Russia as an appeasement gift, and they consider that a victory.

Read this, a nice little study from Cornell University about how segregation creates peace:
>arxiv.org/abs/1110.1409

Hungarians are more their own group and should be separate, Hungarians don't trust anybody but themselves and the Polish.

Shots fired.
Triggered Serbs inbound.

Actually I hope that isn't the case.
On a serious note, do you know what relations were like in Yugoslavia before the war? Cities like Sarajevo were quite multi-ethnic before & after the conflict. Do you know if people got along before? And what changed things?
What does a nation (or state in the case of Yugoslavia) look like when it's on the brink?

Thankyou.

Not really, no. Yugoslavia was a Frankenstein-tier amalgamation of limbs, that mostly hated each other. The only things that kept Juga together were Tito's cult of personality, and the American money.

Checked but I would also like to add Bongistan and Frog foreign policy. This goes back to the Serbian/Yugoslavian king's ties to British and French masoniggers.

Young people used to hang out with each other before the war, no problem. It was also one of the cities where there were lots of pro-commie academics, writers, what have you. Bosnian muzzies were pretty relaxed regarding their religion, so that wasn't a problem either. They called it little Jerusalem and said it should lead the way and be an example of "living together". Once people got older though, they realized that this can only be temporary and started sleeping with one eye open. What ensued later is history.

P.S. Funnily enough, they were also the ones shilling for Tito towards the end and after the end of WWII.

We once trusted in the horvats (croatians), but the jew-powered austrians turned them against us! No fucking wonder Hitler leave them behind when he wanted to fix Europe.

One day user, one day we will purge kebab again, together! We will make Zrínyi proud! And the austrian-cucks will pay for it!

t. magyar

Yugos made interesting cars and other things though. I kinda wish they were still around just for that alone.

lel

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3195005/ISIS-brutally-behead-Croatian-hostage-kidnapped-Cairo-vowing-execute-unless-Muslim-women-freed-Egyptian-jails.html
they will pay…

You can probably buy three of those, and get a Golf 2 gratis for the price of one high-end computer.

Actually looked that shit up.

how much for maintenance though?

it has to TAS
golf dvojka

this is what you need to be fly in miami

According to the seller, it's in working order, with fresh tires. Guy's probably attempting to sell his shit before he bails to Germany like the Bosnian immigrant he is.

You guys really should herd those rats to an active minefield instead of sneak them to Hungary… Deep condolences for the fallen brother.

Wrong.
We herd them to Slovenia :^)
and will keep doing it, probably until they admit the bay is ours

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be careful what you wish for.
fence just got higher :^)

youtube.com/watch?v=sHPO53Jmlkc

Here you go op.

The fat cops in the video threw them under the fence, anyways :^)

In Yugoslavia, several nations were in a failing Federation. Federations don't work when the laws and structures don't care for all the members equally. It was bound to crash, but some greedy politicians kept adding fuel to the fire behind the curtains.
War is good for shady buisness.

Selco also made a lot of interviews where he detailed exactly what happened as things began to break down, including how gangs formed and why wearing nice looking stuff got you shot dead. I have all his interviews, and it goes far beyond Buy lighters n buckets duh! It goes deep into horrible shit most fucking liberals would give anything to avoid hearing.
Heres a couple,
Start of SHTF: vocaroo.com/i/s0D6SUvgI7Ds
Gangs and suicides:vocaroo.com/i/s0VBbVzBbbR8
Old scores Gang lifestyle and selco's group: vocaroo.com/i/s1HCfb6Dp5vQ

Ew.

dehumanize yourself to face the bloodshed.

Here's his reddit post history
reddit.com/user/selco
A post from 5 years ago (bold part):
>In my country things do not look good but it wasnt good for long time. Northern Europe looks more stable than this area here, but before war comes again to all of Europe I think some more things have to happen and not just Euro crisis.
Well, fug

I remember my grandfather telling me that people got along well across racial and cultural lines. When the conflict broke out, friends and neighbors became enemies.

2016

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Take piran, get niggers

father-in-law is an ethnic yugoslav (he still calls himself a yugoslav even today) who partipcated in the conflict. He forever associates serbs with war-time organ farms, but i'd call that pretty justifiable 'racism'. These days he blames the united states for what happened in his country though, and he's not completely wrong either.

hooktube.com/watch?v=vNNG_mn_9DU

*bosnians not serbs

You people before you speak for me! asyl in Croatia good, good, good - no.

One month only 100 kuna, eat no good. everyday spaghetti, macaron - no.
-asyl here is not good. Me go to Germoney because Germoney is very gut

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Oh, hey I remember you from a year or so ago. You got really upset and illiterate because two fat Croatian policemen were smuggling sandniggers past your high-tech fence.

Here are two more redpills when it comes to Christianity.
Anyone who tells you that Christ teaches us to be pacifist, is a massive brainlet subhuman and you shall drop some truth bombs on him. Pics related.

"Don't think that I came to send peace on the earth. I didn't come to send peace, but a sword."

You sound Croatian.

I'd say you sound Serbian, but I'm not knowledgeable in obscure Turkish dialects.

Some elements on these maps baffle me. I've seen some of Richard Lynn's stuff in general and some of the statistics don't add up. On a large scale, I'm sure it's correct, but it seems off in many individual cases.

For example, I find it hard to believe that Ethiopia ranks so low compared to other African countries, especially when Ethiopia has historically been the most advanced civilization in African.

Or how is Iran ranked so low on his charts, when it is both a historical and contemporary power represented in science, art, and more despite sanctions?

Or how is Poland ranked as having a higher intelligence quotient average than neighboring countries who are more advanced (and historically have been more advanced).

I have read that for some of his statistics he literally just averaged neighboring countries instead of sampling there. Or sometimes used strange populations as samples ( I remember reading that he had used plenty of child samples and even handicapped subjects, but that may be wrong.)

Any thoughts?

I don't like using the "IQ" argument because I believe there are equally as important factors when defining a person/group/nation. Like how the lower group of the IQ score performs in that group. IMO, lower IQ scoring Western/northern whites perform and co-operate in a functional society the best. They also have the highest opportunity for upward mobility…Also creativity,
Ingenuity and out of the box thinking, proclivity to honesty/honorable behavior
is a good measuring stick.(along with IQ scores) It's a better way to predict how successful an ethnic group/race are.

I hate to be a Jared Diamond faggot but you do have to figure in geography when factoring in how successful a country is…I only do that with European nations though considering the pressure cooker of warfare and empires dominating other countries
over the past 200+ years. Poland is a good example. If they were an actual powerful military country that could have fought off the USSR, it would have likely been a Germany-tier economic power by now. England had an obvious geographical advantage from being dominated so they could advance ummolested for 400 years+ without foreign interference.

I suppose I ought to give my account as well… I was way too young to remember Yugoslavia proper before SHTF but I lived through the conflict in Sarajevo.

Firstly, what my parents told me about Yugoslavia is thag, essentially, people lived happily together, since the difference between a Croat, Serb or Bosnian was little more than the difference between people from different states in the USA - everyone still had the same "parent" nationality. According to them the whole shit went down due to a power struggle among politicians who spewed propaganda of hating each other. Even today in Bosnia every nation is tugging to their side politically, but the common people don't really give a shit about that - they just want proper healthcare, food and jobs. Interestingly enough, I know a guy with a PhD in philosophy who studied communism throughout the ages. According to him, Yugoslavia's communism "cannot be clasified" and is unique in that it at least somewhat worked. I have no idea how or why (or if it did), just passing that along.

Of course, the war started in the early 90s. I was halfway through elementary school so some details were fuzzy (my parents did their best to keep the worst from me). One thing I know for a fact - regardless of who was "right", regardless of any politics or morals, what happened in Sarajevo was not a war.

It was a massacre.

Serb snipers shot children through the bellies of their mothers, they beheaded and raped the corpses of women in front of their husbands and children. People were tortured, burned alive, dismembered, you name it. There was only a small mountain pass that wasn't surrounded and what little "army" Sarajevo had would go there with only a few rifles they shared among each otber more often than not. It is a miracle that it was never captured.

Grenades were constantly being dropped on schools and other public places. We all attended "school" in an attempt to keep a semblence of a normal life. Classes would often change locations and obviously weren't too regular.

Now, over 20 years later , Bosnia is a mess. Clinton did help make the Dayton agreement that stopped the slaughter, but the country is a shambling corpse. As mentioned earlier, we now have 4 official ethnicities within the country, Bosnian, Serb, Croat and "Other". We got 3 presidents and our government has to fulfill ethnic quotas in every office. Normal people don't give two shits about any of this, it's hard to when you haven't received your paycheck in over 6 months.

The problem are the young people who are easily indoctrinated by the mongering of our national representatives, who shit at politicians from other ethnicities in public while counting shekels with them in private. Those young punks are now enacting the self-fullfiling prophecy of ACTUAL ethnic hate. Since they've been raised to be pissed and have nothing to do in their lives, many of them turn to religion and religious extremism. This iz why Bosnia is nowadays called the "ISIS breeding ground", even though it has for centuries been the only white muslim-majority country in the world with no significant terrorist isshe in history.

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No significant Muslim / religious terrorism I meant.

This user gets it. Too many "right-wing" Republicans who have the potential to take the redpill are being co-opted by the legal vs non-legal paradigm, and unfortunately Trump isn't helping with this. I actually don't give a shit what sort of paperwork someone has. If a Boer refugee from South Africa lands on our shores, I'll happily take them in as a fellow American. However, just because some spic anchor baby is born here and receives papers declaring them an "American" doesn't make them any friend or brother to me. America must identify as an explicitly White nation, and immigration laws can develop from there.

You may be correct about Christ's teachings, but 99% of the Churches DO preach pacifism and multiculturalism. I'm with Dr. Pierce on this one.

Let the pacifists preach lies while you speak truth.
Those who listen to lies and become weak, they are not your brothers. So who are they to you to continue caring about?

That's all I was going for, I agree that map is far from perfect. Additionally IQ is not really the best argument, it's just one of the "easier" metrics to compare and measure & I wanted to get my point across that our other "choices" were unacceptable. Arabs and Mestizos seem to have a pretty similar average IQ anyways, but I think we'd all agree that Arabs are less desirable (namely because of Religion of Cuck™ & its various side-effects).

Well I'm agnostic so I don't really have the necessary depth of knowledge/authority to "speak truth" to most Christians when it comes to scripture. The best I can do here is make sure those of us who are Christian are aware of how bad the subversion is so that they can hopefully counteract it from within.

Observe the asshurt Hamster

Savudrija je Slovenska
Soon

It's ours.
Otherwise not alot of problem with Croats, generally ok people

I'm not South Slav myself but I think this whole concept of Yugoslavia was doomed from the start. If Balkan Slavs united in the middle ages there would be a chance of forging a common Yugoslav identity. In the XIX and XX century however, Croats, Slovens and Serb all viewed themselves as separate nationalities with vastly different cultures and conflicting interests.

Yugoslavia was way too centralized for it's own good too. Maybe if it was a confederation of separate but equal states it would end up differently. There was also the problem of Bosniaks and Albanians who were cancerous as fuck. Even secular they caused ethnic tensions all the time. With such a numerous Muslim diaspora violence had to break out one way or the other.

It was from Russian /k/, YT channel has been taken down.

A bit of a history lession: The territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina used to be Croatian territory.
But after several hunderd years of constant wars with the turks (with most of Europe not bothering to help in any way and after handing the turks many humiliating defeats) it was finally lost.
So that territory was heavily "muslimized".

The people from there speak croatian (with a different accent) but are culturally very different.
Far more "raw" and ..for the lack of a better term, primitive. They have nigger qualities - a great desire for bling, rings and big brands. They also brought in turbofolk and 20 tons of makeup/whore look with them. Not very subtle.

Will never happen.
You have too many non-whites and in there and half the whites you have are cucks.

opensocietyfoundations.org/reports/building-open-society-western-balkans-1991-2011 - pdf

All balkanAnons take notice
Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary as well:
archive.is/LZ14r
archive.is/uMLYJ
The snake is mocking us.
After he sent the first migrant wave, he goes on to patronize us in his sick demented way.

REPEAT:
Snake has not yet been decapitated.
He is threatening us with another wave

archive.is/2TShg

these are people you should definitely buy a coffee sometime if you see them to express your immense gratitude

opensocietyfoundations.org/people/tin-gazivoda

vijesti.hrt.hr/262411/predstavnici-roma-o-izjavi-milanke-opacic

vijesti.hrt.hr/403797/prijeti-li-nam-deportacijski-val

how neet is this?
Asja Korbar is advising both Soros and Croatian people at the same time!

If you want to get the "Serbia 1995" treatment, go right ahead.

Why do you act like it's a national tragedy.
Are you somehow going to dramatically be deprived of anything?
Are you gonna go hungry?

This whole thing is a comedy by now.
Does the sea care about a border? Or the fish?

to those unfamiliar with irl shitposting,
this is something we and Croats have argued since forever.

now it's settled

bbc.com/news/world-europe-40449776

Are you deprived of anything by not having the bay? Should I roll over and not give a shit about handing over national territory?
Not really, you weren't given the territory, and we somehow managed to get the Americans to support us, over you.
No, you do. At this point, I'm pretty sure the politicians aren't handing it over out of pure spite towards you faggots.
Have you considered suicide?

literally siding with NATO.

Kek, NATO put an arms embargo on Croatia in 91 which lasted until 2000 and blocked sea ways and marinas until the war was long over. Guys were smuggling weapons from the Amercas, Africa but also Germany, Austria, even Ireland.

Yeah you're Croatian.

Croat user here
Balkan is currently being squeezed between Russia/China and EU.
Croatia in particular went with EU because we rely on them politically and monetarily. Too many working age men and women went away from Croatia to live in EU countries, so more debt Croatia will have in next generation.
Not to mention what is happening with Sberbank (russian bank) and our main food company that owns 90% of Croatian companies (they borrowed a lot of money from banks, Sberbank pulled the plug then other banks followed, country in shambles).

Basically every older person I talked to (above 40) has said to me that I should stay in the country because they are afraid that everyone will loose their pensions which are atm pretty small (fifth of poverty line).
Things will be going down in next 10 years on Balkans, for sure.

You mean countries going bankrupt or a repeat of the 90s wars? Or both?

Adding to this

esr.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/4/311.short

sf.oxfordjournals.org/content/93/3/1211.abstract

spq.sagepub.com/content/78/4/324.short

Could be both, could be both infused with each other, who the fuck knows anymore.
Some of our politicians are already trying to suck on Russian cock and other politicians are strenghtening their ties with EU by trying to "make financial reforms" and change our currency to euro.

Dear Lord, I have never seen a Croat so triggered as you.
This really rustled your jimmies.
I find it hilarious I lived to watch the whole history of the dispute since 1991, Trdinov vrh etc.

euobserver.com/justice/138897

total-croatia-news.com/politics/22579-slovenia-getting-ready-to-unilaterally-implement-border-arbitration-decision

neweurope.eu/article/croatias-bid-oecd-membership-blocked-slovenia-hungary/

euractiv.com/section/enlargement/news/slovenia-says-it-would-be-very-funny-if-croatia-joined-schengen/

I don't think this is going to work out as you hope for ;)

Call me when you go to the beach, jankec.

Hrvoje, it isn't a problem for me.
I love our coast and actually, I invite all Anons to come enjoy in the summer

Not to disrespect any Croatians yours is beautiful too

Which politicians are you referring to?

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It's a difficult position. If we side with the Russians we will suffer once again. If we side with the West, we get suffer as well because they are cucked now and not great like before. Whoever we choose, we will lose. Last great hope is the best of white nations coming to our countries and helping make it great and cuckfree, being our own thing, free of Rus and cucks. Just a dream now but I want to believe in countries like Poland and Hungary. Good news is, I think Poland has a pretty bright future even the financial speculators think so, so long as they stand strong as I saw their massive marches and protests but I say this to every state in the world, and that is governments only bend to the will of their people with the threat of violence. They wouldn't care otherwise, protests have been ignored for centuries. Wars cannot be avoided.

You should do like Poland does:
Use EU for just 4 gibs
but do not take any rapefugee/kalergi invaders/degeneracy/lgbt pozz
Ideally (and we both have this problem) we should do like Russia and Hungary and ban and deport all Soros Open Society organizations
They are a cancer rot on the very fabric of both Slovenian as Croatian society.
You should keep your ferrets as well, unless you want €?

the biggest redpill about christianity is that the catholic church is acorrupted powerhungry cabal

WW1 was planned by briatin for decades. the assasination was just used as a pretext for "muh allies"

do it

lol. you cant do shit without america telling you to.
you even have more debt than entire yugoslavia had after tito died

croatia is a serb invention from SHS

yeah, just like they dont arm terrorists in syria today with MadeInCroatia AKs and missiles right

Big respect for Madžarska from Slovenija.
Most people follow what is happening and support you fully!

Pic Related is our Orban
A legend, best politician we ever had. Sadly he was before his time. What I would give to have him running now.
Zmago vrni se

he wont be coming back because SDS and SD did everything to get him out of the parliament.
he was talking too much truth and pushing for the right things, so he ha to be taken out.

I felt like not even going to vote this time.
But then I listened to Šiško na prvem soočenju. So I'm going to support him.
He is perhaps more knowledgable and best presidential candidate of all. There were times when he rendered Borči speechless

I know right? I remember his antics, which are a book of their own but he ALWAYS spoke the truth!
I have so much respect for him

About parliament elections I can already say it will be SDS. HOPEFULLYthey learned enough to fuck of their previous rolemodels CDU and Merkel

I keep wondering what would it look like with Zmago as PM

yeah me too

SDS are a farce. theyre populist garbage on the right, just like SD and ZL are on the left.
first they were pro-democracy and something,
then when the afterwar mass graves were discovered they went from pro-NOB to pro-BG, then when the migrant crisis started they went for the anti migrant stance because it would win them popular support.
Pučnik would be rolling in his grave.
Thats why they also had to eliminate any real right wing parties that would endanger them, like SNS, Hervardi, and now theyre even turning on NSi because theyre getting too much votes.
whats gonna follow is gonna be that dick measuring contest between SDS and NSi like we had when ZL took SD voting base.
not to mention the only reason people vote SD and SDS is because they dont want "the other guys" to run the country.

Just dropping by to let everyone know that magiars love dick. Fucking bozgori.
t. Romanian

Just kidding faggots. You're doing a better job at stomping the kikes than we are.

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For 26 years this shitty basically republicans : democrats scheme and it is annoying the shit out of me.
Zmago was good he reminds me of Kramberger in the sense they both spoke the truth. I met Ivo when I was a kid in LJ and supposedly took a pic together- couple of months later….
I worked it out man. What changes is not the left or right government. What changes is left or right mafia in powerrunning almost down to street level gvt/private company contracts and bleeding the people dry as per usual. But now we have the "added bonus of third world invaders sent here with one reason to replace us and bring about Kalergi Pan Europa.
The tolar stops here. If you follow the media you noticed more and more are aware. What the future holds is uncertain but to achieve progress this circle must be broken. We must manage something like in Austria for instance or Hungary. Some young patriot people (unaffiliated to old mafia)
If such an alternative doesnt present itself to election people will cast vote for those who will protect the borders best until a young outfit is found. What is cruicial is expulsion of all OSF NGO'S. Second: Deportations, refuse quotas
Third: Raising average income
Črnčec for instance strikes me as perfect leader. But he is intelligence, not politician.
I believe we can make the country:
1. Fair
2. Prosperous
3. Safe

balkaninsight.com/en/article/louder-than-guns-croatia-s-wartime-patriotic-singers-10-18-2017

That is interesting. I've heard several points of view and have heard that the ethnic groups got along amicably and that they did not (before the war).
If as you say the ethnic groups were friendly with each other, how were the politicians able to create such harsh ethnic tension out of nothing? Seems a little odd to me. Especially in Sarajevo. As you know, the war kicked off after a Bosnian attacked a Serbian wedding (I'm not trying to take a side btw. In response to this attack, Serbs armed and began setting up checkpoints which many could say is an overreaction).
So I am incredulous at the people (and there have been many) who tell me that they never noticed any ethnic tension before the politicians drummed it up. I don't doubt you and I'm sure the politicians had a prominent role in the conflict. But it also seems unlikely to me that an ethnic conflict could be created from nothing or next to nothing by politicians.

Well, I understand your position, but I don't want to take sides with this conflict. I'm much more interested in what life was like in the years preceding the conflict and what you think set it off.

im a serb born in serbia and living here, my dad and uncle were junior officer and a sergeant in the yugo army before the war, as soon as the war started they deserted the army and raided the armories together with a serbian paramilitary, and it was all legal because the government in belgrade was ultranationalist and okayed crime against non-serbs

first thing american "muh guns" retards need to understand is that small arms are useless
you have seen this at waco, you have seen this everywhere, your retarded guns cant protect you because modern armed conflicts = shelling, you get hit by a shell and your retarded guns wont help you

conflict was fairly simple: you had armored cars and these cars were pulling the guns, by guns i am referring to howitzers and towed artillery exclusively, small arms are not even skirmish caliber weapons, let alone war grade weapons, you can throw your small arms in the trash, well fine not really but you get the point
action was simple: find a muslim village on the map, park your cars around it, shell the place, go in to bayonet the corpses and take all of their shit, repeat
by moving your family out of the city/village that has no guns (again, tower variety), to a one that has
you see a group of armed men, or any large group roaming around, you blow it up with guns, it is literally that simple
potatoes, just plant some and they will sprout, it is literally that simple
you can also fish
dig a well, yep, that's it, there's water underground

its good
basically mechanics are needed more than soldiers in a war, you just need to repair cars, its not that complicated, knowing basic trigonometry is all you need to aim guns

successful paramilitaries have cars and towed guns
you need a workshop, even the simplest tools will do the trick, to repair and make crude parts to replace worn out or damaged bits
you can loot everything you need from civilians or 'muh guns' retards that think small arms can replace cars, trucks and actually useful guns

So basically there are two categories which have towed artillery.

1. The paramilitaries which roam around
2. Some "self-protected" villages. In this case, the artillery stays there to protect the village by blowing up groups approaching the village.

Do I understand this correctly?

Also what about hygiene? How often do they wash? I suppose most of the water from the well is for drinking and cooking.

Croatfag here, if you're still here, OP.

First of all, you're digging in the wrong place. Nobody here is unbiased. Croats will lament the loss of Bosnia and fight with the Slovenes about the bay, Serbs will comment how unfair the West was towards them after their megalomaniacal assault on Croatia, Bosnia and Slovenia. Basically, all of us are worthless when it comes to info, but hopefully you can glue the bits and maybe even gain something from this.

My $0.02: There was never an "ethnic conflict" in Yugoslavia, as Yugoslavia was never a single entity, but a Frankensteinian abomination of several fractionally similar nations. To explain this point I'll refer you to what Croatia initially was. A sovereign nation formed well over a millennium ago. If you google Duchy of Croatia, you'll find that the Holy See acknowledged Croatia as a nation as early as the 9th century. I'm sure the Slovenes and Serbs have their own instances of getting approved and by their contemporaries but we're not here to discuss that. I'm merely stating that Croatia was a recognised nation since ~850 AD and as one was Catholic in its entirety.

Fast forward a few centuries and you have the emergence of Renaissance and Baroque art, all very specific to Western European culture, all closely tied to the Roman-catholic Church.

The Serbs didn't have this. They were/are Orthodox Christian, they're different in ways that make them clearly distinguishable from Croats (and probably Slovenes, honestly I don't know their history).

Now on one hand, you have a nation that's leaning towards the West, and you have one that's leaning towards the East. How can you possibly assume they're one of a kind?

Basically, Serbia and Croatia, as the two biggest factors in play, could, would and most likely will NEVER see eye to eye and will always remain opposites. Trying to force us together only makes this hostility more tangible.

Yugoslavia didn't "split" because of internal conflicts. It split because its natural form was individual separate entities.

And that (((Cucktholicism))) has nothing to do with original Kristianity.

Also, a comment on the economic situation at the time:

The fact that the only part of Yugoslavia that made any money off tourism was Croatia and most of that revenue went into Belgrade and was distributed to whomever the Serbs saw fit.

Had the Serb government actually dedicated a decent portion of that funding back into the Croatian coast, maybe there wouldn't have been so much hostility from the Croats. See Catalonia - Spain for a similar situation.

ever hear about this thing they call 'river'? no real eating food and drinking water works exactly the same in wartime, you just have to move out of the city centers because the biggest gangs with the biggest guns will take those
unless you are the biggest gang with the biggest guns

about fighting, 'god fights on the side with better artillery' as napoleon said, as long as you can push the biggest and heaviest gas/liquid(napalm)/solid chunks, you win at it

whole war can be summed up by calibers:
muslims and croats had the smallest calibers, they only had small arms because bosnia and croatia do not have capacity to produce tanks, not even today, so they mostly kept getting massacred
serbs were the only nation with heavy industry in the region which is why they dominated the whole territory, it has nothing to do with politics and everything with physics, serbs had heavy industry and they had heaviest guns
finally, nato had by far the largest guns with largest range and projectiles, nato was slinging missiles from as far as italy, and this is why nato had the last word in the war

if civil war happens over there, whichever side has the largest guns will win

You fucking dullard, NATO put an arms embargo on Croatia in 1991. It lasted a fucking decade. The war was over in 1995.

Now I know your kind isn't particularly fond of education, but I'm sure even you can understand that 1995 happened before 2000.

Bosnia deserved it. Croatia had muh ethnic Serbs and Serbs were paranoid about muh Ustasa/Fascists killing Serbs because of shit education. My ideal Balkan world is Bosnia being split between Serbia and Croatia, Kosovo being given back to Serbia, and Albania turned into an oven until all the Muslims are baked.

if there wasnt nato involvement, all of western balkans would have been serbian
if the russians didnt collapse during the war, these artificial village-states with 0 history of independence wouldnt be popping like mushrooms after rain all over serbian territory

AKs are not make in Croatia.
Because we had no weapon, we had to custom-build some and buy trough black markets.

But that paid off, since we got experience in weapon manufacture.

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Since there are a lot of Serbs and Croats here lately, can you tell me what the hell is Montenegro? Is there a specific montenegrin ethnicity I don't know of? Or are they just a bunch of Serbs in a different country because of reasons? Also,why don't I ever see any hostility towards them in every place Yugoslavia is debated?
The last one is specially weird, considering that everything from the austro-italian border to the Turkish border usually gets tasted by someone in these threads.

They are lazy mountain niggers that have lived in clans for centuries. They are their own nation even though Serbs will tell you otherwise.

Montenegro is just another Serb place, read Gorki Vijenac, it was written by the 'owner' of Montenegro who was a Serbian noble and is currently on Serbian 20 bills.
Because the whole country is smaller than a suburb in Belgrade.
Politicians. Enough said. Corrupt politicians made deals among each other to carve it up like that.

Basically every other 'montenegrin' owns a home in some Serbian city and the country gets deserted after the tourist season. There's no one living down there in winter.

Thankyou for your response. You are absolutely correct about small arms (maybe not useless, but in a conventional war, artillery is more important) and vehicles. What you say reminds me of the work of Thomas Chittum, an American mercenary who served during that war.
Can you tell me more about how the Serbian paramilitaries acquired guns (again, real guns as opposed to small arms)? I presume you're talking about Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina. How closely did the Serb paramilitary factions work with the JNA?
In my studies of the war (especially in Bosnia but also in Split & Krajina) the Serbs armed very effectively and very quickly. To what extent was this aided and led by the JNA and officers?

I'm still here.

Yeah. I am familiar with Balkan politics & expected some fighting among the various factions. But I have learned some things. The partisan politics is part of the course and I love all my Balkan brothers, regardless of which side they champion.

I take what you say seriously. However, in light of what I have learned and from being an outsider who really is pretty impartial to Balkan politics, I'd say that it was an ethnic war. You're right that Croats & Serbs do/did have different outlooks & political aspirations & religions (& alphabets and all that jazz) however these differences are mostly the result of different values & histories arising from the different cultures and heritage of the two (plus) nations. Religion tends to fall along ethnic lines. That's why when you hear "Serb", you think "Orthodox Christian."

My take on this is that Croatia & Serbia are different culturally & you guys fought each other not because of religion or how you spell words, but because Croats don't want to be ruled by Serbs & Serbs don't want to be ruled by Croats. I think that religion has always played a secondary role to ethnicity.

One thing I'm really interested in besides how life was like before the collapse is, as a Croat yourself, how did you come to understand the threat the Jews are?

This must have gone on for a long while, what do you think pushed Croats over the edge? How did most Croats feel about the Serbs before the war? And how did everyone interact after Tito's death?

well as i said, serb paramilitaries raided jna armories, military stockpiles and garages and bases outside serbia and took them by force
since serb side did heavy industry, we had experience in making things, things like trucks and howitzers, its what puts the heavy in the heavy industry, croats had only tourism (which reflects their history, being servile bottom bitches to the first nearby rich foreigner), and bosnians basically had nothing, they just shout 'alahu akbar' over and over 5 times a day every day

zastava was the main large, organized arms manufacturer in the region they produced cars at first but switched to producing war equipment during the war, duh, it was entirely serbian
non-serbs either had some home made amateur crude artillery and trucks or none at all, hence why they got slaughtered so much before nato put an end to it

no one but serbs cared about wars so 90% of all officers/military academy graduates in the region were serbs, which is why jna helped the serbian paramilitaries or even join/make one of their own
things couldnt go better for the serbian forces because we were superior at everything, there wasnt a month where serbs didnt remove a city or a village off of map, no one else knew how to maintain supply lines, or produce artillery, or set up forward operating bases, or set up artillery bases, or siege a region properly

if it wasnt for nato life support, neither would be any of these fake countries
serbs liberated bosnian and croatian REGION (these things really are just serbian regions) from the germans, before yugoslavia these things were german/italian, after yugoslavia these things were serbian, and there never was in history anything called "bosnia" or "croatia" or "kosovo" etc etc, these are just EU/NATO colonies

I agree for the most part, but what about Operation Storm?

Isn't that the Ethnic Cleansing Manual guy? Great read with good advice for anyone who hasn't read it.

Don't you mean Montenigger?

Interesting. Maintaining control over supply lines and getting access to or producing heavy weapons is key in a civil war. Any war.
What can you tell me about life before the conflict? As this thread and thousands of others demonstrates, Croats and Serbs have… a lot to say about each other. How did you get along when you were forced together in one country?
Obviously there were many all Serb or all Croat areas, but what about in places that were mixed? How did everyone get along?

I think so. He wrote "Civil War 2"

croat army was getting btfo'd by the serb army, so the croat police threatened serbian unarmed civilian minority with massacres so they all moved out
that's it

at the end of the day, serbian paramilitaries displaced 10 million people and mass graves are being discovered to this day, serb side took ~0 losses in the whole 10 years of fighting, if only no outsider stepped in, these fake village-states with populations less than two belgrade neighborhoods wouldnt exist

the only reason they exist, is because they sold themselves to their nato/EU masters
if we sided with nato instead, nato probably wouldnt give a shit about us genociding them all
the only problem is that we have been steady allies with the russians for as long as both of our countries existed

history of this region is simple: germans and italians conquered those regions and only serbs existed as an independent nation during the 1st world war
when world wars happen
then the world agrees that these regions, with serb speaking majorities, should be given to serbia
google london agreement, it says that germany and itally are to cede these serb speaking parts to serbia

serbs decide to be tolerant, and rename the whole thing 'yugoslavia' (basically it means southern slavic land), to be more inclusive, etc

multiculturalism, not even once
they were all just lucky that the russians crashed in that period, if russians countered nato, we could have carried out our war without a problem

Is this a false flag?

That's 90IQ Serb "history" for you. Friendly reminder about what a kind of people Serbs are:

"A lie, trait of our patriotism. We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else's misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively."

Dobrica Ćosić, former President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia called by the Serbs "Father of the Serbian Nation"

If it was a false flag it would at least be well written. You can tell it's an actual serb from the quality of the text. Being a half-turk, whose language is a quasi-turk raped version of Croatian really does a number on the language skills.

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Hey guys, I like this song, but don’t understand Croatian- what’s it about?

What stopped them from fighting back?

You say that Serbs tried to be tolerant in Yugoslavia. How so and did Serbs not get into conflict before the actual war?
Obviously I don't want to take sides in a Balkan debate. I'm neither Serb or Croat or Albanian or Bosnian or Macedonian or Slovene. So I'm nowhere near as passionate about who was right and who was wrong as many of you guys are. I've noticed Serbs feel the most passionate about pretty much everything. I can only imagine how difficult it is fighting Serbians.

They got rinsed by an under-armed, understaffed army consisting of mostly volunteers, while they had most of the "cutting edge" Yugoslavian weapons, vehicles and technology, and double the manpower at the start of the war.

While it is nice and a good idea to be stocked and ready for having to bunker down. You should NOT get into the prepper mindset in which you expect to bunker down and weather the storm or run off to escape into an safer area. You here, are the cadre of the future, the iron in the will of man to survive what is coming and conquer our enemies to ensure the future for our species. If we here do not step up and are prepared to step up and destroy our collective enemies, (((they))) will insert their own controlled opposition leaders and organize collectively to overwhelm and dominate anyone not under their control. Making what comes a lost cause and likely doom our race to oblivion.

If such comes. Preps should be in your mind a way to equalize your focus so you do not need to panic in the initial conflict and crawl into an shell looking to survive. You should instead use them as the stepping off stone upon which your rise to dominion begins, a way to bring others to your leadership and a way to command respect and loyalty initially. We have to become the warlords upon which the future will be determined, we have to be the ones to rise above the others so we can organize and network thru 'our' ways of recognizing each other and unifying into an true fighting force. One warlord is an local towns king, but eventually put down like a dog. A dozen warlords can command an small state. Two hundred will dominate an entire region of the nation. An thousand user's as warlords unified in the quest for dominion and conquest over (((them))) will lay the foundation to hunt the vermin to the ends of the earth. Our people then will not only survive, but thrive thanks to such happenings. But it all lies upon your shoulders to be ready to take the fight to your enemies and be the savior of our race, even if it stains your soul with the cost.

Or bunker down, aim to survive like an rat in the sewer our enemies create and be consumed by (((rats))) whom have desired your death for centuries.

I did ask about how he believes the Serbs were defeated in Operation Storm. So far I haven't gotten a good answer.
As you point out, the Croat forces were less well armed than their Serbian counterparts.

I'd say natural talent and devilishly good looks :^), but I'll ask around a bit and get back to you.

Turns out that, the serbs, in their infinite wisdom, left Krajina out to dry, leaving the tiny regiment of ARSK soldiers to fend for themselves.

Croatfag here, I'd like that. Even though I can't stand Serbia it'd still be better to have your shitty kind here instead of Muslims. And we've proven twice we can best you in combat, so I don't fear for the future.

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Just give it all back to the turks tbqhf.

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Croatia has never been the ruler of Serbia.
Serb.
Serb.
Serb.

In no instance did Croatia find itself on top in any form. This was the reason for the disdain most Croats felt towards Serbia in the 20th century. The root of this "need", if you will, to govern Croatia lies in the idea of Greater Serbia. Now, I haven't read the whole thread, so I don't know if it's been mentioned so far, but you can read about it on wiki for a more-or-less unbiased description.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Serbia
In short, it's a relatively new myth/notion stating that every piece of land that is (or was) ever inhabited by Serbs truly and factually belongs to Serbia. Naturally, this lead to a rise in nationalism and a particular loathing to those who refused to adhere to it. The problem is when you try to base this theory in historical evidence you fall short at the very beginning. Croatia's been around since the 7th century, roughly the time Serbia can date its own roots as well. Basically, there is no proof that any of the lands "belonging" to Greater Serbia are actually Serbian. So, on one side you have a rowdy bunch of Serbian nationalists and on the other side you have a group of equally proud "Argentina is white!"-like annoyed Croats who refuse to retain amicable relations with their eastern neighbour.

At the time the Kingdom of Yugoslavia came into being, Croatia was under an almost tyrannical rule by basically everyone, due to being weakened by conflict, having no distinguished leaders and having no friends or partners in any other country. This lead to Serbia abusing its position in the kingdom and namely every Croat at the time suffered.

When WW2 came and the Independent State of Croatia came to power it was all about revenge, i.e. eradicating the Slavic kikes that drove our nation into poverty and slavery once and for all. But, enough with the melodramatics…The emergence of the Independent State of Croatia only made the Serbs angrier and when it was time for the second Yugoslavia to take place, Serbia had no intention of allowing Croatia to abandon its former slave status. A certain corrupt communist dictator made sure of it, arguably for different reasons.

Taking all of this into account it is of utmost importance that I rectify your initial statement: It is not an ethnic conflict when it comes to Croatia and Serbia, but one in which Croatia decided to go back to its primordial status as a sovereign nation, and the reaction of one Serbia which was to instigate the Greater Serbia notion, i.e. attack Croatia with the aid of the JNA forces. If you have a problem with disagreeing with this idea, ask yourself was there a single Slovene, Croat or Bosnian soldier that stepped foot on Serbian soil. The answer is fuck no.

There was always the stereotype that Jews were vile and greedy. I guess this stems from our grandparents being exposed to the same info in Germany as they'd go there to work.
In my family in particular, and I guess this applies to a lot of Croats, we were Catholic and we never liked the Jew for killing Christ and generally being greedy shits. Other than that I can't really help you.

You mean deciding to break free?
It was basically a dictatorship. You'd get Goli otok'd for being Croatian, Catholic and apolitical.

Funny, no European, Croatian, American, Slovenian, Bosnian source ever said this. But here you are, a Serb, spreading the true gospel, straight from your own asshole.

Are you doubting the words of the thirteenth tribe of Israel?
Don't make me get the ADL.

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You of all people should know about Krajina. Serbs in Croatia who clearly didn't like Croatians ruling over them. Just as no Patriotic Croat would tolerate being ruled over in "greater Serbia"

Hence my image of "Earth Je Serbija"
I've come to expect Serbs to claim much of the Balkans as their own. To me it's kind of funny as I'm not affected. I'm sure Croats take it a little more seriously. Do I actually believe that? Of course not. I'm impartial to Balkan politics. If I had to take a position, I'd simply state that Croatian lands belong to Croatia and Serbian lands belong to Serbia. But that's for you guys to work out.

I'd say that ethnic Croats rising up to throw off the yoke of Serb domination and reclaim their status as the dominant group in their own lands is an ethnic struggle.

Interesting. So Croats lived under the a kind of "political correct" tyranny.

Huh, every day I think about it, Serbs get closer and closer to being actual niggers.

I will take no sides in a brother war.
I'm just interested in what ethnic relations were like before the breakdown of Yugoslavia (liberation of Croatia)

btw, nato involvment during operation storm also benefited the serbs since the croat army was under international supervision so revenge killings could be minimized/prevented. also, the operation was announced 48 hours before hand so krajinaniggers had enough time to pack their shit and leave. belgrade announced to cease support for serb troops in croatia and invited them to serbia. eventually, krajinaniggers surrendered and retreated in such a hurry that tanks were rolling over some of their own people. croat forces broke all the way through banja luka but where told to gtfo again by the UN. thanks to the dayton agreement serbs still got their share of bosnia.

My grandfather served in WW2 as part of the Croatian Home Guard. This wasn't voluntary, so when the war ended he had to sleep with one eye open. Why am I mentioning this? He got drafted into a war when he was 18 and after his side lost he was ostracised. That sounds logical, right? Here's the kicker.

The village he came from has less than 500 people living in it today. 70 years ago it had even fewer people. And my fucking grandfather had to strip down to his undies and run through miles of fields after eating his own documents in order to avoid getting caught. His friends and family had to hide the fact that he was part of the military, otherwise he was bound to get Bleiburg'd. THIS was the case with many a Croatian footsoldier. Now imagine what was life like in actual bigger cities where they know your every move. You're Catholic? Stop that. You're Croatian? Stop that. You're not a fan of the Communist Party? STOP. THAT.

God forbid you decide to say anything negative about Our Glorious Leader. If any of this reminds you of North Korea, don't be fucking fooled, it's not off by much. Tito was inarguably one of the biggest monsters Europe has ever seen and those his cabinet went after were Croatian in 99% of cases.

I know a guy who's a history teacher and he spent a good portion of his own free time researching Yugoslav mistreatments of Croatian civilians and the sheer numbers he shared with me left me gagging.

If you want a more precise representation of what was life in Croatia, or better said, a more vivid portrayal of the episodic genocide of disagreeing Croats contact the guys at "Hrvatska Povijest - od A do Ž" on Kikebook. Ask for sources, and they'll give you plenty of them, they frown upon people spreading bullshit lies so they back up everything they post about with multiple credible sources.

seriously? It's a "bite the hand that feeds you" situation. Just because there were Serb people living on Croatian soil because of Croatian good will doesn't make it right to call it Serbian land.

Do you also agree with Northern Ireland not being Irish? Imagine if Mexicans started demanding Texas be annexed.

That's just it, they didn't have to fucking leave. They could've stayed and lived in Croatia, nobody called them out for it.

Fucking Gotovina got PISSED at his men for not going the extra mile with the logistics logs, because he knew that there were always gonna be uninformed people who thought they were gonna get massacred and who could still be persuaded to stay.

Who the fuck would benefit from that? We were the ones who let them stay there in the first place.

This is pretty much summed up by how Serbs reacted to their loss, second place and silver medal of Euro Basket 2017
sbnation.com/2017/9/17/16323108/eurobasket-2017-final-score-results-slovenia-wins
Slovenija winning all 9 games became the first team since 1995 to go undefeated in EuroBasket play and win the Final.

Serbs reaction wasn't honourable or fair. In my eyes, they lost the silver shine too next day by claiming Goran Dragič is Serbian etc. Etc.
Of course Goran is Slovenian and is extremely proud of it. Infact he dedicated this title to all Slovenija saying it gave him everything and that he is so happy he can give a little back.

youtu.be/Pz46hqCaJVQ

Checked. Good post.

That reminds me of an anecdote I read. After the war, Tito forced thousands of young people to build the "Brotherhood and Unity Highway" and these forced labor brigades were called the "volunteer labour brigades"
Typical communist doublespeak.

I'll look into that. Thankyou.

Croatian user here. I will give some facts but you judge by your on.

Than again SFRJ was a one party state and not comparable with US

Also my only issue is not the break up of Yugoslavia. It is that Tudjman never purgered the commies. After his death Mesic and the rest of commies turned against his legacy and sold Croatia to the western globalist

Even the serbs knew Tuđman wasn't to be trusted.

černec got sold out a few years back when he made a deal with Janša to try and take over SOVA (mostly under SD control at the time) for him.
thats why there was so much noise when that commision was sent to investigate SOVAs activities when SOVA didnt conform to the coalition goverment.
Črnec was first let into the intelligence community because he studied in the fields of it and then became a lector on FDV, where theres some of SD linked big names.
thats now the SD deepstate wievs him as a compromise and his work wont go much further than it did till now in SOVA.

Communists are still actuall in power.
Worse.
Now you have more or less disguised Soros bribed puppets in charge of whole ex Yuga. See PM of Srbija for most blatantly evident.
Their mission is kalergi pan europa degeneracy, drug epidemic, lgbt and total moral decay of our societies.
They hope to replace our nations with easily led mongrels

already adressed this joke meme here

Eastern Europe is extremely Ultranationalistic. Another thing is that Slavs don't like each other at all and would rather wage wars amongst themselves and a common enemy if the is one. For example if a new caliphate forms and attacks all of EE here's what is going to happen: There will be a combined effort to fight the kebab in the beginning and when the war is close to it's end and we are about to win there will be "land disputes", ==OR SERBIA WILL TRY TO BACKSTAB US AGAIN BY FORMING A SECRET PACT WITH ROMANIA AND THEN BITCH ABOUT THE COUNTERATTACK FOR DECADES TO COME!== Not to mention that Romania isn't a nation at all and needs to give all the land it was given by the west for switching sides at the last minute. ==AND DON'T THING THAT THE SERBIANS DON'T NEED TO FUCKING PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO BULGARIA!== Fucking animals. And don't get me started on the fucking Russians, they can eat a big one.

no, they just happen to be made in croatia when terrorists need them right?
balkaninsight.com/en/page/balkan-arms-trade
read a few articles, this page has plenty added up so you dont have to say "yeah no i dont have time to look on the internet"

He added me on fb two yearsback.
I get the feeling he is ourguy

seems to me about postmen playing chess

i wonder why, sherlock homo

yeah sure, just like in bosnia and kosovo right?

Tito was a croat

You mean Republic of Kosovo, right?

Tito was a fucking communist faggot who understood how to keep serbians in line. With excessive force and brutality.

thats kinda what intelligence and politician people who are building a conformed voting base do

dont get triggered now.
he was a croat that made eveyrone from slovenia to kosovo bow to him, i tough this would be a great national acheivement for you proud croatians :)

This is great topic. Problem is there was no ethnic conflict in yugoslavia. Let me explain:

Ethnic group - An ethnic group, or an ethnicity, is a category of people who identify with each other based on similarities such as common ancestry, language, society, culture or nation.

All people in yugoslavia were south (hence yu from south) slavs. All slavs have more or less same language, common ancestry and culture. All south slavs were the same ethnic group. It was not ethnic war. Now, if it was not an ethnic war what it was ?
It was colorued revolution made by state department and IMF. please take a look at this movie youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08 .it is serbian nationalist propaganda but it will give you some information while you are reading this:

ante markovic - After that decision had become public, the U.S. had anticipated cooperation because Marković was known "to favor market-oriented reforms" [4] - the BBC declared that he is "Washington's best ally in Yugoslavia".[5] At the end of the year, Marković launched a new and ambitious program of unprecedented economic reforms, including stabilization of currency and privatization, as well as a program of limited trade liberalization. The result of his monetary reform was a halt to inflation, leading to a rise in Yugoslavia's standard of living. Nonetheless, the short-term effect of economic reforms undertaken by Marković led to a decline in Yugoslavia's industrial sector. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Marković

Ante markovic started with economic reforms which has produced economic crises. And after economic crises came war. US (and EU) is in the period after economic reforms sponsored by IMF.

It was never ethnic war..it was made war after economy collapsed under IMF economic reforms. Watch economic hitman. youtube.com/watch?v=37Dvt2EqXF4
There is no ethnic groups. They are all south slavs.

In the 20th century, the country of Yugoslavia (lit. "South Slavia") united the regions inhabited by South Slavic nations – with the key exception of Bulgaria – into a single state. The concept of Yugoslavia, a single state for all South Slavic peoples, emerged in the late 17th century and gained prominence through the 19th century Illyrian movement. The Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, renamed to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia in 1929, was proclaimed on 1 December 1918, following the unification of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs with the kingdoms of Serbia and Montenegro. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Slavs

(((IMF))) killed economy and started war by controlling all sides in conflict. And they used this war to privatize economy. Up until that point all production means were owned by nation (yugoslavia).

Date: June 26, 1950 - Josip Broz Tito - Workers Manage Factories in Yugoslaviamarxists.org/archive/tito/1950/06/26.htm

actually serbs were kept in line by this guy (he is serb) Aleksandar Ranković - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandar_Ranković

This are all old AKs there were made in crvena zastava (yugoslavia) or purchased from hungary, east germany, ukraine…. during the war. Aks are not made in croatia. Factory for yugoslavia was in kragujevac, serbia. one of the reasons why arms factory was in kragujevac is this

The Kragujevac massacre was the mass murder of between 2,778 and 2,794 mostly Serb men and boys in Kragujevac[a] by German soldiers on 21 October 1941. It occurred in the German-occupied territory of Serbia during World War II, and came in reprisal for insurgent attacks in the Gornji Milanovac district that resulted in the deaths of 10 German soldiers and the wounding of 26 others. The number of hostages to be shot was calculated based on a ratio of 100 hostages executed for every German soldier killed and 50 hostages executed for every German soldier wounded. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kragujevac_massacre
They had incentive to make great guns

Croatians can't go one post without an ad hominem attack. What a horrible race of shit posters. Balkan threads are fucking garbage.

tudman was a communist. Like, he was a member of communist party and high ranking officer in yugoslav peoples army. he also sold country to (((western globalist))). That was a deal…he gets to become president (shekels) but he sels country to (((western globalist)))
pic related franjo tudman as member of yugoslav peoples army

This was after (((IMF))) advised ante markovic what to do
Slobodan milosevic was using kosovo to create anti bureaucratic revolution and take power en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-bureaucratic_revolution
croats and slovenes are using this situation to take over control of their respective states.

Start was destruction of economy. Then chimping out was used for taking power. And after that war started to cover for stealing of wealth.

t. a serb

but money was not going into belgrade. money was going to banks in western europe. you should see this. money laundering and tax evasion (in english)

youtube.com/watch?v=12ZTRusbpYk

Balkan people are diverse more by region than by nation,There are parts where difference are purely cultural and places where people are of same culture but of different phenotypes. All was caused by mass migrations and tribalistic nature of living in some parts, even to this age. Being in state of constant rebellion or border war made people xenophobic of both.

Didn't know CIDF was a thing, jokes aside all yugo countries are facing the same problems except bosniaks. All are having brain drain and declining natality, Soros drones are working everywhere. Degeneracy is rampant. Bosinaks are multiplying and getting more in line with the Religion of Cuck™ic trends. Bosnia will become a brewing shitstorm after all of the isis fucks return from Syria.

If the nonwhites and leftists start saying they are satisfied (stop bitching) and start trying to make you think that everything is going to be alright, expect them to be already prepared for war.

The ethnic conflict is the wrong level of analysis, if you hope to gain practical advice from it. You should be focusing on the level of deep politics that funded, trained, and exasperated the conditions. It's pretty much the same as it is now days. The Americans sent in CIA front companies such as mercs like the MPRI en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Professional_Resources_Inc. to train and provide arms to Muslims and other groups. They then funded and trained paramilitary/militia groups like the Kosovo Liberation Army, the UÇPMB, the Patriotic League, and many others. You also had Muslim front groups like the Benevolence International Foundation, the Muwaqaf Blessed Relief Foundation, the Religion of Cuck™ic Relief Foundation, and many others that passed on Gulf oil cash to groups, and also refugee fronts like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kifah_Refugee_Center that served as recruitment for fighters. At the same time as all this, you had politicians in America openly supporting these groups and suggesting intervention (mostly neocon jews). Notice how this is the same modus operandi (NGOs, mercs, terrorist cut-outs/fronts, media claims of atrocities versus democracy-loving freedom fighters) as every ZOG-led government toppling situation in the last 25 years?

The Balkans won't go down the same as in America, because like a horror story the phone call from the bad guy is coming from inside the house.

And if this is the case, and there is civil war in America with the same modus operandi, you should less focus on killing local BLM members, Bloods gangs, or MS-13, or any sort of black or spic ethnic potential militias and focus your efforts on NGOs, the CIA, politicians, the media, etc. that could potentially fund, train, and support the former groups. Hence, wrong level of analysis. Notice that shills here say the exact opposite: "gotta kill niggas in da race war". You couldn't get a more moronic strategically stupid set of advice, as that plays right into the exact modus operandi that has allowed them to win over and over. In Western and NW Europe, you'd attack the same targets (NGOs, politicians, media, etc) except add Muslim elites, Muslim NGOs, and financiers to the kill lists as they are more predominant there. You might say, what about the Jew? They'll jump ship the moment they realize there is trouble like the rats that they are. Probably to Australia or NZ or Israel. If you can get them, go for it, but I doubt that'll happen. You'll likely only kill the local gay jew bugman, rather than endboss jews like Soros or neocons, which while fun doesn't serve a strategic purpose of leadership decapitation. Your ultimate strategic framework should seek to snip the chain between:

>Strategic handrubbing level operations level (NGOs, intelligence orgs, politicians, media) tactical level (ethnic gangs portrayed as freedom fighting heroes).

Going after the mid-level (NGOs, intelligence orgs, politicians, media) that produces their success is what it is needed to slice the chain between goals and their means. Since those that produce the goals will flee (they are rootless transnational cosmopolitans for a reason, you can still fund and order journalists around from London or Israel), and fighting at the tactical level is walking straight into their plans for you. I doubt this advice will be heeded, as Amerifats love two things that are weakneses in such a strategy: being on the side of zog, and loving muh guns and fighting at the tactical level.

So given that "boztom bithces" spanked your bottom and sent you packing limpin' and bleeding, what does that make serbs?

You mean, no one but serbs was ALLOWED to hold high military positions and if you weren't a serb, you were treated like shit?

Oh please, you celebrate a massive defeat, since you have no victories o speak off.

Well, at least you admit to being genocidal maniacs

serbs liberated bosnian and croatian REGION (these things really are just serbian regions) from the germans, before yugoslavia these things were german/italian, after yugoslavia these things were serbian, and there never was in history anything called "bosnia" or "croatia"

Your delusions are entertaining.

This
Do not go for obvious target. It is a set up. Go for high value targets. morons are expansible and they are there just as distraction.
US and EU economy are primed for crash. It is coming at some time or other. After crash of economy war starts. And war is primed already by ramp up of conflict between different economic, religious, sex, ethnic… groups. Then when you crash economy everybody is blaming everybody except and real (((culprits))) can run away with wealth. Note this..they are not going to run away with money (fiat currency) they will run away with wealth. Money would have no value.

As much as I criticize Tudjman for allowing the "peacful reintegration of Serbs" in the Danube and Sava region and also allowing too many former commies in media and political institutions, this is again a false claim. it was mostly his successors that sold out the country to European institutions. If it wasn't for him, absorption by the EU would have ensued quicker.

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Quicker how ? There is a time needed for absorption of new space into EU. he was doing what was he told to do.

Simply by the fact that Mesic, Sanader, Racan, Josipovic were far more cooperative with the EU, UN, the Hague, etc. For example, the artillery protocols that went to the Hague in 08/09. These were classified military documents that no self-respecting administration would hand over without getting something of significant in return. Mesic handed them over just like that, just to be a good goy. Or Sanader, it was his administration that put efforts into setting up Gotovina for the Hague.

balkaninsight.com/en/article/croatia-profits-from-syria-s-gruesome-war-02-20-2017

balkaninsight.com/en/article/croatia-s-saudi-arms-sales-fresh-new-scrutiny-02-22-2017

balkaninsight.com/en/article/croatian-island-airport-becomes-pentagon-hub-10-02-2017

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he was a communist like everyone else in the goverment.
he just pretended to be savior2 to keep the folks backing him.
meanwhile his friends and the ones on the serb side all worked together in the banking and industry making a profit out of the war

But what do you think his plan is? I don't follow social media for a while now
I know he became dean, he consulted črna gora on joining nato, wrote a book and is member of an institute for global governance,
but apart from that, he is obv not returning to owl, is not on sds anymore, and basically be is redpilling people for two years so hard, that he'd put most Holla Forumsanons to shame.

Are you some sort of Occupy hippie?

he was the one responsible if there would be a warcrimes and arms trade scandal in the hauge.
thats why he tried to cover everything up.
he let Gotovina be fried instead of him, but the americans also took care of that and cleared all the charges after the conviction.

hes trying to keep himself in the standard he is now, obviously. his job as a lector and an advisor is gonna get him a good pay and pension, and he keeps the right wing persona up because he needs that support base, since FDV is a left leaning institution and the patrties that are most likely to back him are right.
shilling for NATO is an obvious redflag if someones also pretending to "want to change something"

This is typical ko nas bre zavadi bullshit.

Checked but Tudjman died in '99, Gotovina got arrested in '05, your statement makes no sense.

have some more salt:
the croatian goverment is supporting terrorists

Board seems to be full of Croatian larpers who think they'll be welcome with open arms because of WWII. Protip: We know you're traitors, and we won't be bombing for you anymore.
Enjoy being wiped out, degenerate california of balkans.

Yeah no shit. Croatians and Bosnians even worked wit Jews to give clean passports and weapons to Al Qaeda for 9/11.

You're surprisingly salty for a Janež, probably just a čefur that took the first tractor to a Ljubljana suburb once Operation Storm ended.

Oh boy, what else is new.

>(((Tuđ-man)))
Hate to break it to you but he looks like a kike and his name indicates a kike.

Have a song and stay mad

"All sorts of other lies are being spread today, I do not know what else they will invent. I've heard that I'm of Jewish descent, but I found, I knew of my ancestors in Zagorje from around 350 years ago, and I said, maybe it would be good to have some of that, I guess I would be richer, I might not have become a Communist. Then, as if that's not enough, then they declare that my wife is Jewish or Serbian. Luckily for me, she never was either, although many wives are. And so on and so forth spreading lies ."

Serbs never provide proof for anything they just act arrogant and think that this somehow proves their argument! Kinda like niggers in the USA.

Listen to the part about the founders of zionism.

youtube.com/watch?v=FI1IkKr6RCQ

youtube.com/watch?v=8lFWuGVE7rs

truthaboutserbia.blogspot.hr/

archive.fo/5AIS

Yugoslavia was an artificial country created after WW1, nothing similar to it never existed before. Both Serbia and Croatia and Bosnia were completely independent kingdoms. When the Ottomans attacked, they took Bosnia and Serbia, Croatia (under Austria) barely survived, basically its today's borders are the borders where the Turks were stopped. Many Serbs fled to Croatia as a result of their homes being conquered. After 1990, the descendants of those Serbs rebelled and said well this is Serbia now. That was literally it.

Historically speaking, Croats/Serbs/Slovenians who supported Yugoslavia supported it because they saw it as a counter balance to the German sphere of influence. Basically they thought that if the people stood together they could stop German hegemony. Yugoslavia after WW2 was a Serb dominated country, all the money went to Belgrade, the headquarters of the companies were there, the leadership of every aspect of the country was there and the official language of the army was Serbian.

Before Yugoslavia fell apart, it was a typical communist country, although maybe with slightly less freedom. If you were in the communist party or an army officer, you got a free apartment, job, everything. Its bullshit economy funded by Western money finally utterly collapsed in the 1980s. Even before that, people had to go to fucking Italy to buy jeans, there were various food shortages all the time like sugar, chocolate, etc. Fuel shortages too.

polizei-nrw.de/media/Dokumente/PKS/2016/PKS_Jahrbuch_2016_II.pdf
polizei.bayern.de/content/6/4/9/pks_pressebericht_2016.pdf
bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Broschueren/2016/pks-2015.pdf

My grandpa got suicided when he got drunk and jumped in front of a train (that's what the coroner said happened).
My grandpa was a teetotaler by the way, wouldn't also be surprised if the casket was empty since suicide by train is a great excuse for having a closed casket funeral.

>>>Holla Forums tbh

Nice try with the flat earth meme pictures, but we know you stole organs for jews. My brother as stationed in Kosovo and he always said we fought for the wrong side and every border crossing in Croatoa was paid for by NATO or EU. You won't trick us a second time.

Enjoy your "freedom" to steal and murder for zionists while it lasts.

Are you a Serbian immigrant, because you're about as fucking stupid as one. I'll also enjoy my 98% white country, you buttflustered faggot.

btw
>The leadership of the small Jewish community in Croatia, along with representatives of the country’s Serb minority, has boycotted the last two government-sponsored Holocaust commemorations in 2016 and 2017.
tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/246116/croatia-rewrite-holocaust-crimes-out-of-history
oj brej

Reminder Hitler was a friend of Croatia.

look at all the tears we triggered by saying too much

no, im just "ignorant" and "intolerant" against catholic serbs that got a country from hungarians by mistake

but youre south of us. youre the turks here.

looks like we have a intel community croat here, tell us please your involvement and research in 9/11

i see

most people dont read schwabesprache, what does it say

every croat immigrant ive met so far was brown tho

The job for Montenegro was a one of
Read this and tell me what you think
reporter.si/clanek/kolumnisti/damir-crncec-janicarski-refleks-480727

he needed a pupet state in the region. seeing how retarded everyone over there is he would be stupid if he didnt give one group power in exchange for loyalty

Honestly he was head intelligence. I wonder how much info that gave him access to.

its pretty standard "right wing talk". the argument is subtle and moderate, he doesent name anyone, he just attacks the situation.
i understand that if anyone with a FDV position would openly criticise SD related figures, or if anyone with a high political standing would attack american and german responsibilty for the current events, he would get fried.
however the mere fact that he ran the agency under Janšas mandate and left for FDV without making anything makes me sceptical hes much more than a "talker".
not to mention that after the migrant crisis begun the agency went and created honeypot groups and catalysed jailbait extremism to blacklist and fine any individuals or groups on both sides that werent "in check".

regarding information things dont really work that way.
he would only have acces to agency and police reports on things, that is if he wasnt aware of these things from before.
the military is a separate organisation with some top ranking officers being part of Janšas clique, while the agency is primarly run by Kučans friends.
also its "pretty common" for slovenian documents and reports to "get lost".
the only thing he did dig up was a job for Janša when the scandal with the agency spying on political figures broke out and that commision was formed to investigate.
the classified material ofcourse never sees the light of day in this counrtry.
the investiagation just led to the same old shit throwing contest between SD and SDS.
like one guy said about the whole scandal:
"Na koncu bo očitno prišla prava resnica na dan, da komisija preizkuje govorice da tajni agentje med delovnim časom na tržnici prodajajo solato"

Mexicans are niggers. Take my word for it. You have 4 types of Mexicans. The Native Mexican who looks like a fucking Orc, The half breed Mexican who always tries to pass as white but still has a lot of Orcish Characteristics, the White Spaniard Mexican who is to chicken shit to claim white and tries to band up with the Spics, then you have the blacks who were born in Mexico. Los Angeles Right Wing Death Squads.

They're intermixed with the italians and greeks who came with the conquistadors. And yeah they're fucking pussywhipped. Despite getting all the top media jobs mexico offers, they will do what they can to virtue signal.

And the ones that are mixed with typical mestizo mexicans are the definition of mulatto scum.

Not just croatian government. serbian government…bih government…

Also, buying oil from smuggled through turkey

Geez, reading this thread for my monthly dose of yugo banter went bitter
There's many types of mexicans, mainly because it's a forced union of several cultural regions under a single culture doctrine enforced by military men from that single place
Imagine a giant Yugoslavia, but with albanians posing as mountain bosniaks as the head culture instead of serbs.
And a highly erratic political system based on extremely rampant public usury enforced by highly-trained paramilitary criminal groups so they can act without jurisdiction or international criticism

The native mexican has plenty of flavors, you have the grumpy "tall" aridamerican desert native, our own brand of the american injun but with extremist christian values, just as genocided, the shorty jungle monkey slave, similar to the amazonians but more robust, dumb and malicious as fuck, the aztec/original mexica mountain niggers which are like the jungle ones but more malicious and perhaps more intelligent, and the olmec/mayan gulf natives, which are their own kind of injun, big headed and individualistic

Half-breeds vary depending on the injun and european mixture so classifying them is hard, the whites vary from average spaniards, greedy frenchmen (Jalisco executive devils), basque, italian and slav mountain men (old white guys in small desert towns), exotic german expats (the veracruz blondies, the Puebla elite), and obviously, the jews that infiltrated every group, inventing names but appearing from time to time wearing star of david necklaces in private parties, maybe the only group "loyal" to their roots as all the europeans basically forgot all their heritage other than food and work rate.

There are no niggers in Mexico, at least in visible way, but there is mongrels who might look like having nigger heritage, mainly in some gulf areas and shameful american expats in hellhole border cities like Juarez or Tijuana

I'll always respect Slovenes as human beings, and a successful country, but Serbia is a fucking joke.

I fucked up. He is not on fdv
fds.si/index.php/aktualno/fds/1434-imenovan-nov-dekan-fakultete-dr-damir-crncec
He has a huge following on fb,
since the beginning of the frst kalergi invader wave through Balkan route, he has been constantly giving solid advice, criticism and most importantly giving a platform to patriots - silent majority which is either ignored or mislabeled racist by both msm and government.
I think he simply doesn't care about pleasing or crossing anyone as he doesn't have political ambitions. Which is a shame in my opinion.

I know which owlpots you mean and I lurk some out of curiosity observe their m.o. Can't say that they really achieved anything by them besides shutting down szm.
I thought the position gives you J. Edgar Hoover type leverage.
Does he not have clearance to access all files?
An aquaintance who once worked with paravos told me owls have division to monitor certain demographics, so I assumed he added me because of that.

people know that goverments are corrupt.
but for some reason many croats feel the need to defend theirs because they think theyll "lose" or something if they admit that the corrupt band of tycoons that ran the country into a bigger debt than yugoslavia had are bad

plotwist: im the northern neighbour

I know, there's the other guy, with his brother from Kosovo.

evropske študije is a study program on FDV.
i almost enrolled there a while back but i changed my mind when i started to think straight.

actually thats what the entire "right" band in the govt was pretending to do, especially SDS.
and as you saw nobody did anything,
cmerar just gave his own company state money to build a few km of wire fence and then everything was quiet.
hes smart. he knows that if he gets involved with SDS or some other party his position on FDV and his reputation in general are in danger.
and if he starts an independent party he is a threat to SDS and others and he gets taken down.
all he needs to do to have a good life is what hes been doing untill now.

dont be fooled. this is slovenia.
each janša and kučan have more power than the entire general-staff and police command combined.
these "public office" positions of directors and ministers are just a reward or slots for the two main parties to fill. you should know that everything is really run from the background.
on paper he does. but as youd suspect alot of files "get lost" and so on.
not to mention that if he actually would bother to look for something people that run the show would be informed about it and the files would be made unavaible, and if he still insisted he would get told to stop or else.
those guys didnt have a problem with anyone before when it comes to someone wanting to come to the bottom of an affair.
thats kinda all they do. they spy on citizens here and make sure noone knows too much and that noone is starting his own movement without "approval"
hes a friendly guy in person, dont get me wrong, but you cant be naive.

dubs of truth

Typical tricks tbh. Meanwhile, when it comes to genociding other white people on European soil and robbing them of their land, they will have no scruples about siding with anyone, even Africans.
The level of projection applied here is so comically surreal that it would make even Steven Spielberg just stand there in awe while his kippa comes flying off his noggin.

Btw, they actually took these UNegroids in the pic with them on their nightly surprise sex sprees, just for keks. Fookin’ based.

"SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina — U.N. peacekeepers in Bosnia regularly visited a Serbian-run brothel outside Sarajevo, where some of them took sexual advantage of Muslim and Croatian women forced into prostitution, according to Muslim witnesses and the local Serbian commander.“
articles.latimes.com/1993-11-01/news/mn-51996_1_bosnian-serb-commander

"Bosnian Serbs reportedly have run dozens of rape camps in places like Doboj, a predominantly Muslim town in north-central Bosnia before it was taken by Serb nationalists. A year ago, according to a 23-year-old Muslim woman interviewed by U.S. officials, about 600 women and girls were held in the Doboj Middle School gymnasium. The woman described how she and others were taken to individual classrooms by nationalist Serb fighters and raped for the purpose, she was told, of making Serb babies.“
articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-01-30/news/9401300225_1_bosnian-serbs-bosnian-muslims-bosnian-war

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/bosnia-war-crimes-the-rapes-went-on-day-and-night-robert-fisk-in-mostar-gathers-detailed-evidence-of-1471656.html
balkaninsight.com/en/article/witness-recalls-rapes-and-torture-in-foca
theguardian.com/world/2000/apr/21/balkans1

moar pics
stopserbophilia.blogspot.com/2015/07/

youre a joke

Yeah. That image pretty well captures any thread about Balkan politics.

Thankyou for your response.
I take what you say seriously however I respectfully disagree with your claim. Here is my reasoning as an impartial outside observer.

You say that all South Slavs are of the same ethnic group. Yet clearly most Croats, Serbs, Bosnians, & Slovenes disagree. Croats rose up against what they felt was Serbian oppression of the Croat People. And Serbs fought against what they perceived as a return of Croatian "fascism" aka nationalism.

As an outsider, it does not appear that all South Slavs are the same anymore than all West European groups are the same. You say that all Slavs have more or less the same language, common ancestry and culture and I don't disagree that they share similar culture, language, & history. Personally I view the inter Slavic wars as tragic brother wars. However France, Germany, Spain, & Britain also have more or less similar cultures, languages, & histories. But they are different. Croatia has had a very different journey from a Serbia. The culture is similar, but not identical to Serbia or of Bosnians or of Slovenes. You're right that the languages are similar. But definitely not the same and this makes sense as the various nations have had separate journeys through history.

I also agree with you in part about the (((IMF))). You're right that the IMF and NATO under the freakish Jew (((Madoline Albriecht))) wanted to destroy Yugoslavia. However, a healthy nation-state would not have descended civil war so easily. And I'm sorry, but when I see ethnic Croats fighting ethnic Serbs or ethnic Slovenes creating a Slovenian state or ethnic Albanians rising up against what they perceived as ethnic Serb oppression I cannot help but call it an ethnic conflict. It wasn't a political civil war. In fact, very few civil wars are not ethnically based. Even the ideologies of the Russian civil war fell along ethnic lines in large part.
If all Slavs considered themselves of the same ethnic group, then Yugoslavia wouldn't have been destroyed.
This thread, like many others seems pretty damning proof that the various South Slavs don't consider each other kinsmen. If this thread represents the way Croats, Serbs, Bosnians, & Slovenes feel about each other, frankly I'm amazed that Tito was able to hold it together as long as he did.

But thankyou for the video. I will watch it. I'm generally good at weeding out propaganda from fact.

That would be interesting. I suppose that's like the fakenews saying that everything is fine and not to worry. That's be quite spooky, actually.

Hey I do have first hand experience and this is utter bullshit.

Fuking kill yourself right now.

Friend of Albania/Kosovo as well even though we bastards hid jews. We are actually good folk and crypto Christians don't let the mongrel meme countries around us fool you otherwise

it really depends on where and with who you were living. just because you feel like something now it deosent mean everyone else did so back then

I agree with you that America won't go down the same way that Yugoslavia did. Despite what proud Serbs and proud Croats and proud Slovenes etc tell me about each other, all South Slavs are White. Despite the differences, you all share a heritage have similar languages & cultures. With the USA, it's a bloody mess. It's like a modern art painting of racial hatred (most of it one sides against Whites by unreasoning Blacks & Mestizos).

However, as an impartial outsider looking at the conflict you describe, it seems like an ethnic one. You talk about how the CIA funded Muslim terrorist organizations and I don't disagree. But you left out an important word; Albanian. I won't take a side in the Albanian vs Serb conflict. But it is undeniably an ethnic one. One that pitted ethnic Albanians against Ethnic Serbs. All civil wars are either political, religious, or ethnically based. And most civil wars are ethnic ones. This war has ethnic conflict written all over it.

Everything else I agree with. NGOs and other anti-White, globalist traitors are at the top of my lift of targets and I advise everyone else interested in freedom of our people to think in 3D. We cannot afford to think like a reactionary. Reactionaries will attack symbols of multiculturalism. Revolutionaries will think in 3D and attack those in control. Those who have real power and are responsible for the darkening world.

Some do..there is no question about it. Which brings us to other point. Whole area was under influences of other cultures and geno types. Which has left it mark. It starts with rome as rome have conquered parts of this area and goes on and on. Every invader has left its culture and genotype. This is the reason why you have different genotypes of people all calming to be some kind of suth slav. The reason why they all claime to be part of suth slavs is ethnic cleansing. After every invader left there was a massive ethnic cleansing and everybody who wasn't part of local tribe (serbian, macedonian, croat…) was removed. We are talking millions here.
Now you have people caliming to be (for example) slovenian who is not by his genotype a slovenian but serbian. Important question which most Croats, Serbs, Bosnians, & Slovenes is what is crat, serb, bosnian or slovenian. What defines them…because is it is south slav then it is genotype.

No, it is the story sold through propaganda. 50 years josip broz tito (who is part croat and part slovenian) was president of yugoslavia. And macedonians (for example) never rose up against croat oppression
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And this is all true. But south slavs are genotype. On just culture. you should understand that south slav culture is very old. And they have started as tribe. Serbs and croats are tribes. And tribes are defined by genotype. All people in tribe has same genotype. Tribe is basically extended family.

>I also agree with you in part about the (((IMF))). You're right that the IMF and NATO under the freakish Jew (((Madoline Albriecht))) wanted to destroy Yugoslavia. However, a healthy nation-state would not have descended civil war so easily.
But yugoslavia wasn't healthy. war is yugoslavia was in making soon after jospi broz tito died. It was almost 10 years in making by propaganda and destroying economy. This is the reason why i have put that picture there. After tito died money from yugoslav economy was transferd to banks in paris, london… and banks in yugoslavia created banks daughters in (today) EU countries. And started to create problems for economy in yugoslavia. This money was later used to privatize economy in yugoslavia after (and during ) the war. also this money got austrian politican en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jörg_Haider killed. This is the link with hypo bank in austria. It was a hub to clean money.

I understand why you think that. There was a strong propaganda effort to create illusion that it was an ethnic conflict. But this was not a case. It was a case for laundering money and getting rich. it is the same as in syria or ukraine…

But slavs were just useful idiots who were doing what other people wanted them to do. Like in ukraine ? It is not ukraineians who wanted to kill other ukrainians. It is other forces who encouraged them to do it

You should consider that this is behavior after 25 years of propaganda. You can see buy your self how good is propaganda in putting ideas in peoples minds.
Please do. It is interesting case study for situation now in EU and US. Same interests that created war in yugoslavia are at work in EU and US. (((they))) even have some modus operandi. (((they))) are steering all the different groups to attack each other and in the same time destroying economy and taking all the wealth. Then when there is no more future in economy (((they))) will start the war and let all this groups destroy each other. When the dust settles (((they))) will accuse everybody for 6 gazillion and tell them how they were very very bad and should be ashamed of them self. While at the same time taking control and making shit load of money

US is going to be a mess. Real fuck up..hatred is over the roof and you are correct in your assumption that south slavs are all white. But more than that most of the serbs, croats and slovenes have in their family other ethnicities (?). Remember, it is a tribal society not a nation formed from different ethnicities.
let me give you an example..in war in yugoslavia (90 ) there were less then 100 000 killed. It was a small number if you look at the WW2 when in yugoslavia there was 1 million casualties. It wasn't a real war..it was more for a show. All different sides were talking and planing together throughout the war.
Albanians are not one ethnicity. There are 2 ethnicities in albania. Albania is nation (as state) but they have 2 ethnicities in albania. Also, some serbs are genetically albanians but are claiming they are serbs and vice versa. Or to put it in simpler terms..some albenians are south slavs. most muslims (in bih) are south slavs. They are not arabs.
Can you understand the problem with ethnicity in this area ?

For example, turks were expelled from yugoslavia (balkans) during 19 and 20 century in millions

During the 19th and 20th centuries, hundreds of thousands of Muslims migrated from the Balkans into other regions, above all the Ottoman Empire and the Republic of Turkey, founded in 1923. archive.is/7Kfij
Those who are left are south slavs. ethnic cleansing
BTW term ethnic cleansing has entered in english dictionary after war in yugoslavia

Crofag here, I'd sooner welcome a union with Slovenia, Bosnia*, Macedonia, Hungary**, and even Montenegro before I'd agree to another partnership with Shiterbia.

*Eradicating the muslims would be a must.
**I know they aren't Slavic, just saying.

Hell, if it weren't for the bay and maybe some other minute details, I'd probably name Slovenes in my top 5 nations.

I distinctly remember an article or news report to mention of what Milosevic said once at the Trial or Interview from there: He said "we were trying to defend ourselfs …" in response to why Seriba used force.

It's a long way back, before I was actively archiving anything, but I probably saw it on RT or some of those sites.

Maybe so. But it is what many Serbs have told me. So clearly there are many people who feel this way.

Yet in Ukraine it appears to be the same thing. NovaRussya is ethnic Russian and Ukraine is ethnic Ukrainian. Yes yes yes, I know that they're similar ethnicities. But the people on the ground do not seem to feel that way. Clearly they regard their separate histories as sufficient enough to deserve different countries.
The same is true to a large extent in Syria with religious issues mixed in.

It is also true what you say about the role of the (((propagandists))) causing much of the hatred and destroying Yugoslavia. But are you saying that everyone got along in Yugoslavia before the 1980s or so? After Tito's death?
My point is, these ethnic (or whatever you want to call it) rivalries didn't come from nothing. How do you remember Yugoslavia before the war? How well did Croats & Serbs get along before 1991?

Exactly. There is a common bond. This is absent in America.
It's only due to the massive police state that things aren't in the gutter today.

Maybe so. Perhaps I chose the wrong word as South Slavs are of the same family yes, even those haughty Serbs
As a Burger, my sense of racial kinsmenship is different than a lot of Balkan anons. So when I say "kinsmen" I mean of the same nation. Volk.

thanks for posting this. SHTF guy always has great insight!

Except they werent a puppet and he gave them a lot of control over things that would otherwise be controlled by the Reich. Thats how I found out about the relationship, he trusted Ante to handle his own business, was in some documentary on an unrelated subject.

I have no doubt that many serbs (or croatians or bosniaks) feel this way. it is a feeling..feelings are created by propaganda. If you want we can talk about how propaganda works with regards of binding some feelings to some product. For example: Drink Coca-Cola and enjoy it. joy is a feeling. This is example of binding feeling to some product.

>It is also true what you say about the role of the (((propagandists))) causing much of the hatred and destroying Yugoslavia. But are you saying that everyone got along in Yugoslavia before the 1980s or so? After Tito's death?

Didn't leave out shit. Who do you think the Kosovo Liberation Army is made up of?

The rest of your middle paragraph is playing right into their hands. Like I said, dipshits who can't into strategy think this is about ethnic warfare and fight along those lines rather than attacking the things that fuel or control the ethnic conflict in the first place. You are looking at the surface phenomenon, rather than seeing the deeper things that generated it. Academic IR theory, political theory, and military theory is plagued by propagandistic bullshit that much of war is bottom up and leaderless, which is ass backwards to how things are: some group is always backed by (((someone))) more powerful and acts as a cat's paw for larger ends. The worldwide Salafist movement with groups like ISIS and al Qaeda didn't get powerful because of their abilites (they are stocked by low IQ Arabs), they got powerful because of zog deep state and gulf oil backing. You are playing right into their hands by framing it as ethnic conflict, which is the means that bring their ends. The ethnic conflict is an epiphenomenon of greater planning that your enemy is sucking you into.

Like Sun Tzu said, the height of strategy is not fighting enemy armies, it's fighting enemy plans. The best way to fight this planning in a potential American civil war – given your finite resources, enemy planning, and enemy responses – is to snip the middle of the chain I outlined above by avoiding the choice they gave to fight "da race war" and instead go after the power centers that connect the handrubbing elite level with the tactical level of ethnic cat's paws. Once those power centers are gone, everything else is trivial to deal with. If you don't, you will win tactical exchanges with black nationalists in urban warfare (and Holla Forums and /k/ will consist of lots of posts about "btfo niggers"), but you certainly aren't going to win in the long term strategic sense. As the entire system that worked in the Balkans, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, and elsewhere is predicated upon a deeper system of war financing (that completely outweighs the stupid back of the envelope calculations of the so-called "red team planner"), control of the media and psyops (and growing control of the internet and social media), a logistical and supply chain of weapons and personnel (that can fuel war on American soil with low IQ brown cannon fodder for decades), and intelligence support via deep state actors, PMCs, and NGOs. All of which are capable of going for decades if you stick to the level of attritional streetfighting against cannon fodder antifa and BLM militias. Decades you don't have given demographic trends.

But genetically they are all slavs. They have similar history and similar language. Basically russia started in ukraine. People in ukraine are more russian than are people in russia. Ukraine has more right to call it self russia then russia. Ukraine is not a real country, ukrine is actually russia. And russia (as russian federation) are area that people from ukraine expanded to. New russia is actually old (ancient) russia.
nationations were created when people started to have nation states. This states (that we are talking about) are older then nation states. They are tribes based on genetics. when nation stated started to be a thing then nationalism started to be a thing. It is a relatively new concept from 19 century. All this state we talk about are much older.
Most theories see the nation state as a 19th-century European phenomenon, facilitated by developments such as state-mandated education, mass literacy and mass media.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_state

But it was not separate histories. it was economy. It was sold to people that they would have more money in separate states. it is not because they could not live with each other. There is still quite a big minority in all this states of people of different ethnicities. if it was a problem with ethnicities there would be no minorities

But there was outside influence that used this issues to start a war

>It is also true what you say about the role of the (((propagandists))) causing much of the hatred and destroying Yugoslavia. But are you saying that everyone got along in Yugoslavia before the 1980s or so? After Tito's death?
No, that is impossible. There are problems in families who live together. of course there would be problems with millions of people living in one state.
But all lived better. And differences were settled.

Of course. they do not come from nothing. rivalries are made and grown with time. Or can be settled. relations between serbs and croats has long history and i think you would be bored by it. let us just say that serbs and croats are (probably) the same people en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlastimirović_dynasty with different names.

yes i know. This is a reason why i have decided to write in this topic. And this will be a problem to US. Personally i think yugoslavia was a test for bigger wars. But also i think (((who ever))) was testing did not know a few things. when SHTF in US and EU it is going to get ugly. As we have discussed in yugoslavia all people were south slavs. In EU there much more difference between people. Austria, switzerland and germany are more the less same..but the rest are not. germany would get fucked up by immigrants

No, it is becuase people still can find job or have EBTs. when there is no money police cant do shit.

>The rest of your middle paragraph is playing right into their hands. Like I said, dipshits who can't into strategy think this is about ethnic warfare and fight along those lines rather than attacking the things that fuel or control the ethnic conflict in the first place. You are looking at the surface phenomenon, rather than seeing the deeper things that generated it. Academic IR theory, political theory, and military theory is plagued by propagandistic bullshit that much of war is bottom up and leaderless, which is ass backwards to how things are: some group is always backed by (((someone))) more powerful and acts as a cat's paw for larger ends. The worldwide Salafist movement with groups like ISIS and al Qaeda didn't get powerful because of their abilites (they are stocked by low IQ Arabs), they got powerful because of zog deep state and gulf oil backing. You are playing right into their hands by framing it as ethnic conflict, which is the means that bring their ends. The ethnic conflict is an epiphenomenon of greater planning that your enemy is sucking you into.

you should think about this. You can lose time and resources on some poor smuck who is basically canon fodder and can be replaced in blink of the eye. Or you can go for mid level / high level targets / boss that are harder to replace. it is better to go for command and control and later mop up what is left.

Once the electricity goes out from the Airborne respiratory pathogen creating never ending chaos in the cities America will return to being a White Nation. You won't be able to shoot an airborne respiratory pathogen you won't even be able to see it let alone fight it. It will cause utter chaos in the cities and as the Niggers Jews Fags Mexicans Arabs and Slants leave the cities they will be massacred by the Americans i.e the White People who created this Nation.

pavelič anwsered to berlin and to some extent to italy concerning naval issues.
the borders were also determined by those two. militarly everything was done in coordination with germany. it was kinda the whole point of having a puppet state

Ante belives he is a kraut
Nemanja believes he is russky
Senad believes he is turkroach
Then the games began

there will be no breakdown. You will just slowly notice how your life gets worse year after year. You will pay more taxes and work longer. Your wife will get raped more often. Your daughter will date Ahmeds and your son will become a hip hop nigger. Your pension will be smaller than expected and healthcare costs will explode. The system will still run because there is still enough white males to parasite for a few more decades.

my parents told me commieslavia was great. Housing was free for poorfags, schools and doctors were free, electricity was free if you were poor, Jobs were abundant, government corruption was kept minimal, globalist companies were denied access to our markets, goods were produced domestically instead of shipped from bumfuckistan or changhuangistan. However, this was all financed by US sheckels and as soon as they stopped to supply us with money, the entire house of cards collapsed in the late 80s.

Whites will not fight back any time soon because they are still fed and they still have television. Similar to germany. For something to actually happen, you need much more.

actually it was not financed by us sheckels. When it US sheckels started to finance it then it all collapsed

Hvala. You seem very knowlegeable. It's a pleasure discussing with you.

An excellent post and worthy of screencap.
I have been thinking and came to some of the same conclusions myself

no problem. i just want more people to know whats actually going on rather than just sitting behind TV and voting one major centrist party all the time without actually doing anything about the failing state around them

Do you think they are monitoring this site/us?

What happened with Yugoslavia and later Balkan wars a bigger deal than people think, specially all the redpill newbies from the past few years: The Balkan or Yugoslavian scenario it is something PUTIN FEARED THE MOST, it thankfully did not happen to Russia.

youtube.com/watch?v=C_TXZXtKU_k
youtube.com/watch?v=PDLwu4E35us
youtube.com/watch?v=vp2BqGQkUYs

1. The term Balkanization comes from this Yugoslavia Scenario, as well as the Kosovo War and Bosnia War.

2. It's the classic NWO tactic of divide and conquer, pitting Croatia vs Serbia.

3. Why Croatia looks more bad and corrupt when researching and digging is because the NWO simply choose them to be the favourite upper dog and Serbia take the loss. This means the NWO has a lot more black ops and agents/strings in Croatia, as well as in Bosnia among the Religion of Cuck™ists. In reality, both lose, only NWO wins.

4. That doesn't mean there's no possibility there were agents in Serbia as well doing some thing to make Serbia look bad further. For example the way Serbia would react, maybe some agents ensured it would fall into a trap.

5. Kosovo could be reclaimed by simply offering all those who refuse to get new houses for free in their core country, all of them would move out and there would be no resistance and it would be a peaceful and acknowledged deal. But I hardly expect Serbian nationalists to accept this idea so easily, it's quite out of the box. Can still ask some payback for taking land at a later date when things cool down.

Yes, FDV (Fakulteta za Družbene Vede) is a "Faculty for Social Science" as if the name isn't suspicious enough, it's exactly the kind of thing you want to avoid. FDV professors and their students were spotted protesting at the border a few years back, campaigning against border blockades to try to open the route up.

youtube.com/watch?v=kr0gKze6mYI

Forgot

(if they are I am sure they are having a lot of fun)
Easier than let's say tracking nevzet porič recruitment efforts

On an unrelated note, one of the few organizations I have great respect for is SV.
Until
rtvslo.si/slovenija/vojska-se-uri-za-obvladovanje-protestnikov-v-sloveniji/407717
Do you have to fucking kill everything I like?
I want to believe this does no reflect the sentiment of soldiers.

How would one approach defunding and banning open society foundations in Slovenija?

there is no possibility for that. NGO are too much integrated into government and politics. Without NGOs government (not just in slovenia) could not keep the power. NGOs are crucial for survival of political system as it is stand right now. There is too much dependencies and interconnections. This is also true for all republics created after break up of yugoslavia

yeah probably. slovenian posters have a history on both here and 4chan, especially after local slovenian blogs like mojforum died out.
it goes without saying that you should say "illegal things" on here.
but those monkeys wont come after you if you do. they just put you on a blacklist and if you happen to become a big name in politics or activism somewhere and get to dangerous for them then they use it against you and ruin your career.

i know. i couldnt beleive someone would be cringy enough to do this. then i heard from friends there that they were expected to come by the faculty, and you probably know what happens if you do as your professors want and if you dont.

Sometimes you have to think outside the box

filantropija.org/migracije/
We are but a small country

they are good guys when it comes to just soldiers and low ranking officers.
the top brass ofcourse are usually corrupt asslickers. everyone knows what are the onl yways to get a high position in slovenia

a horrible person. ever heard of that boštjan videmšek guy? he actually went to syria to support terrorists and then wrote a book on how they were the good guys.

Good.luck I don't have political ambitions then )

Fuck the higher brass. What I need to know the lower rank majority is ourside
(and very opposed to idea of eu army)

Enough of this infighting! Do we not know who the true enemy is! It doesn't matter if we are Serb, Croat, Bulgar, Albanian, or Greek! We must remove the Turk! Now is the best time for this, the Turks are allying more and more with Russia, all we have to do is to create the pretenses that could get rid of those fuckers once and for all!

(Same Bosnia user here, my ID changed by now)

One thing that held true for Yugoslavia and for Bosnia more than the other Balkan states is that it's fucking diverse, for better worse. You can drive 50 kilometers in any direction and find completely different cultures, accents and people. It's like the entire USA squashed on 50k square kilometers. This means that everyone will have had a different experience and I have no doubt that you had this or that village warring over some ethnic shit. All my references are from people I actually talked to who lived through those times. I'll actually ask my (grand)parents next time I see them for some more details.

yeah me too.
unfortunatley the EU is pushing for a bureocratic update to the lisbon treaty where police units of member countries will be allowed to serve in other countries with EU approval.
the thing behind this i that for example our police guys wont be sent to attack our protestors, they will be shipped abroad and some swedish cops are gonna come to beat the protestors up. this way the police wont be able to side with the protestors, no matter how bad the goverment is.

AKA the Protestant pill, Martin Luther was the original shitposter

You don't know the Albanians at all, do you.

America has very few united cultural groups. You have the south, mormons, and new england. The white vs black shit isnt going to happen, there no unifying culture.

true, but protestantism just slowley turned into catholicism without a hive mind and celibacy

True.
Have this
global-sets.com/christian-smith-umek-umf-radio-439-06-oct-2017/

neither do you
Albanian revolt of 1910 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_revolt_of_1910
Albanian revolt of 1912 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_revolt_of_1912
The success of the Albanian Revolt and news from the Italo-Turkish War sent a strong signal to the neighboring countries that the Ottoman Empire was weak.[25] The members of the Balkan League decided that they couldn't waste such a golden opportunity to strike at a weakened Ottoman state.[26] Demonstration of the weakness of the Ottoman Empire and promises of Albanian autonomy threatened Serbian ambitions for the incorporation of these territories into its domain. The Kingdom of Serbia opposed the plan for this rather large Albanian state (whose territories are now considered to be the concept of Greater Albania), preferring a partition of the European territory of the Ottoman Empire among the four Balkan allies.

while we are at it

Kosovo Vilayet - . Before the First Balkan War in 1912, the province's shape and location denied Serbia and Montenegro a common land border. After the war, the major part of the vilayet was divided between Montenegro and Serbia. These borders were all ratified at the Treaty of London in 1913.[6] The Ottoman Empire finally recognised the new borders following a peace deal with the Kingdom of Serbia on 14 March 1914. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Vilayet

Good post. I basically got the same feedback.

Anyone saying Yugoslavia was the the best these parts could amount to is clearly biased. Yugoslavia was a less successful effort of uniting the East and the West, a more efficient one would've been the Austro-Hungarian empire. White in its entirety.

Turkey 2.0 and communism have no place in modern Europe, and I'm appalled OP is even considering Yugoslavia to be the utopia as presented by the serbposter.

Except, no one said that.

(Bosniafag again, I am posting from my home / office / mobile phone so my ID keeps changing)

People claiming that are usually from what I've seen just "innocently ignorant", meaning they see the shit happening these days, then look back to the most recent instance where everyone was working together, which, through a 30 year old lens, seems to be Yugoslavia. People forget about the Austro-Hungarian empire, or even dare I say Ottoman empire. One interesting thing that I often observe is that people talk about Turkish culture like a long-standing Bosnian tradition, which it technically is since the Ottoman empire took hold of these lands in 1482 and stayed here until 1689. That's all and fine, but those same people conveniently forget that Bosnia was a kingdom with its own church long before it was an Ottoman or even Austro-Hungarian colony. Rewriting history at its best.

To end this on a positive note, you guys will love it. One piece of history that is "endemic" to Bosnia are something called Stećci (or Stećak for the singular). Pic related. You can read up on them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stećak

archive.is/MiKgp

This is good advice.

But I want to ask you, you've stated many times that the Yugoslav war was not an ethnic conflict. But how do you explain what can only be described as ethnic rivalries and even hatred that exist even to this day? I've heard many Serbs ITT alone slander Croats and vice versa. And during the war you cannot deny that the different sides fell along ethnic lines 90% of the time.
If it was not an ethnic war, what was it?
And yes, I know about propaganda. Trust me, I'm more familiar with William Pierce and Bob Whitaker than most people here. So I am completely in agreement with you that most people are lemmings and believe what their TV says. Much of the ethnic hatred does arise out of the propaganda that each side had. But that doesn't mean that it wasn't an ethnic war. Those ethnic rivalries didn't spring up from nothing. They were already there and the media took advantage of it. You cannot deny that Croats & Serbs have had different national journeys.

Then why did the Serbs insist on being in a, as they put it, a "Serbian State"?

This is also very true. As you know, before 1991 there was a long period of economic stagnation in Yugoslavia. More than during the communist era. Also, the (((IMF))) demanded that Yugoslavia privatize many industries and this caused much more joblessness than before.
In short, the banking institutions destabilized society. But that society was not some harmonious homogeneous nation. As you say yourself, the ethnic rivalries did not come from nothing. They existed prior to the economic downturn and were enflamed by it.

You're right that Croats & Serbs are really members of the same Slavic family. And that is actually why I am less optimistic about the USA's ability to stay together. Croats & Serbs, whatever their differences were still Slavs & still White. The various factions in the USA have no similarities at all. Not even the same language in the case of Mexicans.

But I do agree with you completely about going after important targets. Not only people, but infrastructure. One could win a war before ground fighting even began by taking out Jews & Shabbos Goyim elites who run the place. Of course it's more likely that this will not happen all at once.

So are you saying that all hope is lost? Are you saying that the White race (at least in America/W Europe) is doomed to extinction?

Thanks man!
Ask them how people got along before 1991.

Also, if they have any biases (like most people ITT who are either 200% pro-Croatia or 9000% Serb) please ask for me why. Like, if they hate Serbs, I'm interested in why they do. Is it just "because they're Serbs goddamn it!" or is it something like "Well, because Serbs were given preferential treatment before the war"
(Please note for any triggered Serbs. I'm just using Serb as an example. Please chill. I love my Serbian brothers)

There have been plenty of explanations on why everyone hates serbs, beyond "because they're serbs", in this thread alone.

Yeah. I know.

euractiv.com/section/enlargement/news/balkan-citizens-doubt-they-will-ever-join-eu/

stecci can be found in croatia, bosnia, montenegro and serbia
they are usually found in serb and croat populated areas (herzegovina and eastern bosnia for the most part [I know that there are some stecci in central bosnia too..])

and regarding the "bosnian church" you should read noel malcoms book about bosnia

the yugoslav wars were ethnic conflicts for the most part but also local blood feuds, neighbours killed each other over shit from pre ww1 and ww2

see srebrenica for example:

too bad nobody wants to unite with croatia
even when you had the opportunity you rather sided with muslims than with the bosnian croats, betraying your own people..

Diversity + Proximity = War.

Yugoslavia should be a valuable lesson to all of us. We all need our own countries: Croats, Serbs, English, Germans, White Americans, Russians, Niggers, Spics, Japs, Kikes (they should be required to live in Israel and be instantly gassed from outer space whenever they attempt to leave), etc.

Having said that: Косово је Србија!

Quality post, user.

True I actually realized I slipped up when writing that but forgot to fix it. The vast majority are in Bosnia for what it's worth. I mist admit I have little in-depth knowledge about the Bosnian pre-Ottoman church so thanks for the reading recommendations. My original point was that a lot of people here don't even that it existed. They behave as if Bosnia started with Turkey. It took me years to break the conditioning to see just how cucked by Turkey the nation is. It's a sad state of affairs really, there are a lot of good people here being held down. Hell, one of the best indicators of the quality of Bosnian people is to contrast the current refugee shit with Bosnian refugees in the 90s. Someone correct me if I am wrong on this, but any reports of them acting like subhumans in whatever nation they got accepted in were few and far between. The vast majority assimated adapted and learned the languages needed.

My half Serbian half Croatian friend who identifies with his Serbian side would find this really hilarious.

What do you think of this, Croatia Anons?
total-croatia-news.com/politics/22799-is-todoric-more-powerful-than-the-state-miljenic-reveals-agrokor-commission-plans
total-croatia-news.com/news/22950-ivica-todoric-much-closer-to-croatia-than-london
abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/police-raids-homes-founder-croatias-biggest-company-50503592

Very easily. When SHTF everbody wants to be surronded by their own family. Family as clan in triabal way of thinking.
A clan is a group of people united by actual or perceived kinship[1] and descent. Even if lineage details are unknown, clan members may be organized around a founding member or apical ancestor. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan
Serbs (bosnians, slovens..whatever) are on clan. The reason why this is following. If you look at the nature when food starts to get sparse you do not have enough for all mouths to feed. Then you feed your own kin. It is not very nice to other people but it is a way who human species survived. When economy started to crush everybody when to smaller communities for protection and food.

Not that i will just deny it i would say that there was same percentage of croats in serbian army as was percentage in general population. Also, there was same percentage of serbs in croatian army as was in general population…And it was similar in all other waring fractions. On bosnian side there was small amount of outside fighters. Most of bosnian fighters (army) were either serbs or croats who happened to be muslim. Muslims in bosnia are south slavs. Muslim is religion..they are either croats or serbs. And croats and serbs are south slavs also..difference is religion.

It was a theft of wealth. Complete economy was in hands of people. it was called social ownership. Whole society was owner of everything. It is completely new way to look at ownership. Well it was theft from people to few people who created war. you should read this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Horvat
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_self-management
It was completely new way of thinking and managing economy. And it was very successful.

Ethnic rivalries were carefully implemented and nurtured in centuries because of different rulers of the areas. First written documents of conquerers of area are from time of rome. As you may know Divide et Impera is roman saying and rome used this type of politics in conquering countries. After rome there was other conquerers who used same tactic. Now, seeds were already planted and with skillful implementation of propaganda from trusted sources it is not as hard as it seams. Propaganda was not coming from outside sources..it was coming from state own media and politicians at the time

Of course.

Because everybody knew what was coming. war….and people have preservation instinct.

Yes, of course. There is no denying it. All I am saying is that this ethnic tensions were artificially turned up to maximum at the same time when economy was (artificially) destroyed. And with that you have perfect conditions for war.

yes. This is the reason why i am writing this. To give my fellow anons some thoughts and lessons that were learned. US (and some nations in EU) are artificially created. In a way this nations do not have homogeneous populations. This nation are going to have a hard time. Most of this nations have economy as a reason for people in them to be together. And when economy is gone there is no reason for this people to live together. Just look at the animals..when there is food scarcity what to they do ?

For now it is going pretty well all things considered. It will give us all better chances for survival.

We are in extinction level event for some time. it is not possible to predict at this time survival of any race of humans or human species as whole. let us say there are going to be losses in population numbers. It is to be determent who much. As this type of situation arises it is best to cut losses and insure survival of fittest for survival. Fittest for survival is not the same as fittest in general health.

The economy Is tanking again. FED and ECB are starting to raise interest rates which will have an effect on banking sector and banking interest rates. And there is also less money in system because they FED is starting to wind down QE. Less money..higher interest rates and economy that is collapsing. With higher interest rates it will be harder to get money for investing or just for survival of company that has negative balance.

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Sebastian Kurz Bans George Soros’s Foundations From Austria
archive.is/QmjmX

!!!=

you do understand this is satirical web site ?

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I'm an American, just my two cents.

>(((madeleine albright))) and the Clinton gang push for the bombing of serbia
Nice try kike.
Multiple screws have to be missing to buy this shit.

user that you replied to here
For starter our president Kolinda Grabar is already talking about "renewing and starting up old forgotten collaborations and trade deals with Russia" which is obvious sign of her cucking to Russia. The prime minister with his party and his little kiss ass politicians of HDZ are going for EU.

I don't really know all the little details but there seems to be a divide in our politics at current point.

I read about this a week ago. Did the meeting already happen?

yes
Vladimir Putin & Kolinda Grabar Kitarovic' Statements youtube.com/watch?v=A1NVJM2uPWE
article in english archive.is/bOKsZ

It seemes there is a problem with russian bans that have given money to croatian company and that company has gone bankrupt. archive.is/MVlZY it was after acquisition of banks in eastern europe archive.is/BThKk
Also, there is a russian interest in south stream. South Stream is an abandoned pipeline project to transport natural gas of the Russian Federation through the Black Sea to Bulgaria and through Serbia, Hungary and Slovenia further to Austria. archive.is/qRduG
basically croatian biggest company that is under forced administration of croatian government owns money to russian banks. And russians are not very happy about it.

The company expanded too quickly and accumulated debt too fast, that is true, but it only went bankrupt because Sberbank pulled the plug and wanted it's money back immediatelly.

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Very informative post. Sberbank. Thank you

source ?

Serb-Baltic American here. fuck Croatia and fuck former "President" Bill Clinton.

You would be the one to fuck other men.

Croatian education at its best, ladies and gentlemen.

Pathetic.

Pierce was never wrong.

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tema je vroča in trenutno page 1
rtvslo.si/gospodarstvo/sklad-georgea-sorosa-naj-bi-se-zanimal-za-tus/436064

>rtvslo.si/gospodarstvo/sklad-georgea-sorosa-naj-bi-se-zanimal-za-tus/436064

Sberbank acquires almost fifth of Mercator shares at auction archive.is/aUGdd

Billionaire investor George Soros has transferred “the bulk of his wealth” to the Open Society Foundations, the nonprofit organization said. archive.is/ypEb5

Wew lad

HURR DURR YOU A TITO/JEWGOSLAVIA SHILL!

Fuck off honestly.

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Very interesting reactions

So you want to become antifa?
the manual:
archive.is/u3UoM

I've had this saved for over a year now just in case. Absolute gold

To be honest you are probably better looking at northern ireland, for. an example of ethnic conflict and how it could apply to the USA.

Specifically looking at the formation of protestant paramilitary groups and how to learn from that experiance.

The USA is probably not going to collapse Yugoslav style. But is much more likely to have persistent and growing civil conflict which and impotent national government isnt willing to do what is necessary to deal with it. and local government. being dominated by a small majority that fears what would happen if they ever lose control.

Specifically USA anons need to learn what prevented the protestant paramilitaries from being effective until late in the conflict and need to understand why they descended into mindless gangster-ism and need to figure out how this can be avoided.

Millionth attempt to post this image.

These are pretty unique to Ireland
but also beaner countries like Mexico

ok wtf is going on guys?

Explain like i'm 5 tbh

Remeber that Kolinda is from the Karamarko faktor Who tried to make HDZ look more nationalistic again. He got ousted by the current cuck faction

youtube.com/watch?sts=17462&v=O6lme6g9IA0&layout=mobile&client=mv-google&skipcontrinter=1

soros is pulling some massive shady shit with Slovenija and Croatia's largest retail companies, banks and media companies right now, it is just a month since he gave 18 billion to open society foundations. Possibly with eu commision blessing
I advise everyone be very observant of this
keywords:
Agrokor
Tuš
Nlb bank
Pro Plus tv
Quantum hedge fund
Mirko Tuš
Ivica Todorič

everything that was bulit here in the socialist times and 90s is being sold at rock bottom prices by politicians that get a cut of the sale under the table.

basically its as retarded as a framer selling all his land and then saying

Exactly. It is downright robbery

What if those white males emigrate to the east? then the system collapses. And the east, now being stronger with all that surplus of white males, comes back in and conquers the collapsed West.

visegradpost.com/en/2017/10/25/viktor-orban-designates-globalization-and-financial-speculators-as-threats-for-identity

yeah youre not going to pull off such ordered mass migrations unless youre stalin

This

Albanian user here, Holla Forums may hate us, but our contribution to the Wehrmacht will never be erased. We would've been so much better off if Hitler won. And I have no shame in saying this!

Jews are not a problem here, as only a small amount of them remain. However, even without them we still have our issues. Soros and his scum are paying politicians, and now we must

Btw any bosnianons here want to read this article about Bosnian high school btfoing Jews?:

balkaninsight.com/en/article/bosnian-school-slams-israel-over-anti-jewish-claim-10-27-2017

America won't collapse for another century, its still too big to fail. Think Rome after the five good Emperors, when the Empire began to lose ground but it still maintained a very strong (albeit bloated) military. This is exactly where the US is, it is ready to descend into full degeneracy and destruction.

One interesting thing I like about Oswald Spengler for instance is his idea of Caesarism

counter-currents.com/2016/05/oswald-spengler-and-the-controversy-of-caesarism/

newsweek.com/trump-voter-fraud-republicans-649284

Personally however, in my personal opinion, the fall of America will come after Trump. Trump will be our "Sulla." The man who abuses the powers of the Democracy, and bites the bullet. His base clearly wants to surrender democracy to the greater good. So the attraction to dictatorship.

My prediction is that it will descend into something similar to the Years of Lead (Anni di piombo) in Italy, in which far right and left guerrillas fought each other in an Urban surrounding and with state or nongovernment parties assisting them. My assumption is that Soros would fund the Antifa/Communists/Radical Blacks while Russia or another similar party would fund the Far Right. Given, this is just pure conjecture, but I think it is very similar to what is going to start out now.

From this period of political chaos, I will assume that the more conservative white Gen X/Z will prop up the true Caesar of America.

slovenia gets the soros treatment

do you live in america?

*Sigh* yes… I was born here. But nonetheless, I still gotta help my peps.

That seems to be classic scenario but I think he is conspiring to version 2.0
Magyar Anons please let us know if you hear some info, also I will enform you if your old "friend" is in the neighborhood

Soon as people stop seeing themselves as Americans to closer to balkanization of America but with one outcome i see for America will be a Crazy looking Balkanization with north-militia south-militia hard line liberals, inner city radicals, neoconservative but for Europe will be a easy win because they can look to race as baseline French Germany Spanish no matter what the baseline is there with europe but for America it will be cut up like a pie.

all I remember about that war is that the whites were all accused if war crimes, while the bosnian muslims were portrayed as poor innocent victims.
Knowing what I now know about muslims, I find it entirely inconceivable that the bosnians were not engaged in atrocities which were never reported let alone condemned like the serb and croat (((war crimes))) were.
Also I distinctly remember the (((international community))) led by the US bombing every side except the muslims at some point.
I didn't consider it anti white at the time, I was too young and bluepilled, but now I see it for what it was, jews directing whites to kill other whites in order to protect muslims living in white countries.
If and when it kicks off in any other european countries, I am sure the same narratives will be spun, and the same actions taken against us.
The most worrying thing for me is the way (((they))) use previously collated intelligence to target exactly the right people for midnight assassination squads in order to hobble any resistance to their moves.
This was a major part of the success of the bolshevik revolution and many others all the way up to recently with isis in iraq wiping out most of the senior officers using intel from mossad.

it would be down on an individual basis not organised. much like the mass migration of migrants from the third world to the EU now.

1) only few individuals would decide to do it
2) these mass migrations are organised and not in any way an "unfortunate consequence of people fleeing war"

Burgers are kind of spoiled with cars, mind you. In the early 90's my mum and aunt had early 80's Vauxhalls that weren't much better than that. At least you could get parts, I suppose.

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Sorry for my ignorance about the subject but I literally never got this taught in school (not even a Burger, it's just that most Western-European history classes are 80% WWII and the rest is divided between national history and major conflicts like the Cold War).
Wasn't there supposed to be more of a muslims vs (orthodox) christians conflict? What side did the Bosnians take because a large part of them are muslims. I had a Serbian friend who told me some stories about his uncle getting killed by muslims so that and the few things I picked up from 90s Serbian music videos is all I know about this.

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Soros sells his Slovenian msm A-channel / msm to Ex Cia boss David Petraus

portalplus.si/mobile/2286/petraeus-pro-plus

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NLB is worth nothing. It is just a bank with huge issues. Agrokor is worth nothing and mercator was only kept afloat by big loans.
They have built huge market centers and destroyed all the little shops. Now they are closing it down and whole food market is still destroyed. Agrokor is pushing shitty croatian food on slovenian shelves. It is like reverse evolution. Thank god for austrians/germans and lidl and hofer. At least you can get quality food now instead of 3rd world scrap.

I'm an expat living in Croatia. This whole region has a collective IQ of about 90. They're basically like the Irish. It's beautiful here, but 10% of the people are so stupid that it starts to wear on you.

I don't think there will be another war around here for a long time. The younger generations are working to be more modern and everyone hates the quasi-communist government except govt employees. The old school is on its way out.

You won't get in a fight unless you go looking for a fight. Theft is rare because people don't consider taking other people's things as 'theft'… it's more like, 'No one was using it, so I took it and sold it for a kuna.'

There is no word in the Croatian language for, 'inconsiderate'.

English?
Have you learned the language?

No. I can order beer, etc. My GF spent a year learning Croatian so she's the translator. No one gives me a hard time for being an ignorant anglo.