We used to have some pretty regular threads on this grindfest of a nethack. Any of you still enjoy it from time to time?
Trying to work on a petless unarmed build, shits rough. I've got enough sources of plat between hunting, dungeons, and farming, but I'm having a real hard time finding resist gear and better weapons.
Is there a quick and easy way to give my pets new abilities/spells and configure their combat behavior yet? I don't wanna wait until act 2 or whatever.
Jose Wright
Collect small medals and buy a tonfa from the workshop Also if you are petless you must have that speed bonus feat
Jaxon Ramirez
As far as i know ,there isnt
Connor Carter
Elona Custom.
Jason Sullivan
These threads give me genuine happiness, as dumb as that sounds.
Elona custom has a system where you can teach pets skills/spells if their stats are high enough. I forget how much you need. I feel like the AI tactics configuration is overpowered as hell though.
Bentley Rivera
Heard something about wizards now replenish spellstock, does that mean unlimited meteor/ wish
Alexander Reyes
I really doubt whatever happened could work that way considering the nerfs made specifically to prevent spells like Wish to be easily obtained.
Brody Jones
Don't know about that but wizards can now spend platinum coins to train spell levels without using stock. You get more spell exp with higher learning, so that stat is actually useful now.
Liam Nguyen
Maybe this could be it and I heard wrong , it was too good to be true
This is a link to the Elona Sprite Pack I got with either the above pasta or a different one. I had to use Dropcanvas because the upload limit's 10 MB and the archive is 11.
Elijah Gray
Reminder to do your homework and study your magic! Soon you'll be able to solo dungeons with DLs that are more than double your level.
Sweet thanks. Will save this to the zip I use to transfer all custom graphics to new Elona versions.
Jackson Allen
I've been seeing this game pop up for years now and I have to say I'm somewhat interested, what does it do to separate itself from the rest of the Roguelikes out there?
Xavier Miller
Anyone got a working music pack? The one in the pasta won't work
Joseph Mitchell
oh my fuck
thanks man gonna magic
Camden Lopez
It's got an overworld and a large focus on leveling your character, getting shit like farms and ranches set up as well as leveling your companions. It never gives me rougelike vibes, especially since the permadeath mode is incredibly hard compared to the default because you invest a lot of time into your characters.
Brandon White
So it's one of those Roguelikes where you don't actually permadie huh? Sounds cool, will probably check it out. Are there any cool classes/races? Those are my favorite part.
Levi Clark
There's no permadeath unless you pick a certain gamemode, which is not recommended. Also important, this game is grindy as hell but there is much to do. If you have the money, you can buy a house and decorate/format it however you like, tile-by-tile. You can own a shop or a farm and can also change it's design tile-by-tile. The shop and farm don't have much depth to it, however. You can learn to play instruments well to earn gold. You can literally kill anything in the game (NPCs respawn so you can kill shopkeepers or story-sensitive characters). You can own pets and marry any of them regardless of gender or species. You can change the pets sprite and portrait to whatever you want (forgot the size parameters)
There is a ton of shit to do provided you don't mind grinding. Pic related, though the time is probably bloated because I keep Elona on in the background.
I recommend going warmage with medium armor for Magic Equip. Level the fuck out of Element Scar and either Lightning or Ice spells. Stack equipment that boost spell power. Buff yourself -> Element Scar -> Water Bolt -> Ice or Lightning Bolt = dead stuff.
Luis Cook
I like the fairy race
highest base resist 25%(i think) extra dodge rate
but can only use light equipment
David Cook
Sounds rad, now I just have to hope there's a Linux version.
Camden Rogers
It kinda feels like some old 1996-ish or even 2003-ish PC fangame that takes older anime shit and SNES-era jrpg vibes and mashes it all together with a touch of it's own unique surrealist shit. At first Elona's atmosphere made me uncomfortable with how the world almost felt like an unpure jrpg fantasy world; instead of beauty everywhere like in a Final Fantasy game or in Chrono Trigger or something, you had the threat of mutation and corruption looming all over, and at first the game is buttfuckingly brutal if you aren't sure what to do.
If you've grown up with old sprite based, almost Game Maker-ish games,you're probably going to find Elona to be incredibly nostalgic. It even has a midi OST that honestly sounds great and captures the feeling of the game perfectly. Some of the unique features the game includes are player owned buildings like houses, storages, ranches where you can breed monsters and get meat, eggs, and milk from them, farms where you can plant seeds and shit and grow different things, and other shit as well.
Every monster in the game is a playable race if you edit a thing in the files; do this after you're done with the initial races though as this is considered cheating by many, and nearly all of the races are entirely unbalanced for a playthrough. Some races are completely shit and others are so overpowered that the game loses every bit of challenge it once had. However, default races include cool things like dwarves, a few kinds of humans, fairies, goblins, golems, mutants that mutate as you level up, liches, and even some fucked up shit like elves.
Oh you can also play as a snail as a challenge class.
Classes aren't really too important, but in Elona+ they give small powers, or so I've heard. Basically each class is more or less a set of starter attributes and skills for you to take into the game, because you can learn anything you want and train anything you want and do anything you want regardless of class. My main at the moment is a Juere Farmer. Juere's are a kind of human that have slowed digestion so they can go longer without food, and they're generally pretty tough-ish as well, and being a farmer gives me bonuses to cooking and farming and shit; cooking was my main idea for my money making at first and both cooking and anatomy are my highest skills.
Basically anatomy raises the chances of finding hearts, eyes, bones and meat when your foe dies. Every enemy has it's own meat that provides unique stat boosts as you keep eating it, but, every food does that. Fruit generally mostly increases luck and magic, while eating meat from the "hand" monster-type that you find around will increase your strength if you eat a bit of it, and so on. I'm running a putit ranch at the moment, because putits are easy to breed and give charisma boosts when you eat enough of the meat, and I'm interested in getting that stat higher so I can make more money and shit.
But yeah, Elona has tons of fun classes and abilities; even moreso if you enable the special class toggle in the config files.
ALSO important, get Elona+, not Elona. Elona+ improves so much shit, like, in Elona, your taxes would raise based on ingame time and a newbie might find themselves not making enough money to support themselves, and not paying taxes reduces your "karma" and having a karma too low makes everyone hate you and try to kill you on sight. Elona+ changes it so taxes raise depending on how much money you have on hand at the moment, however, among other things. Also Elona+ adds pet evolution and cool shit, so that's great. Get Elona Custom and install it to your Elona folder as well; Elona Custom is basically Elona++ and adds more options and even a few bits of extra content.
Justin Johnson
I just mute the game and play my own music.
Pretty much this. You can pick wizard and train unarmed and punch shit in the face (with the Otogiri, this actually works well). The classes do have unique feats however. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Class_feats_(Elona+) Don't worry about regretting your choice later though, it's easy to change class later on. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Business_card
Oliver Thomas
What kind of music is good with it? Got any suggestions?
Jonathan Lewis
Don't really listen to music that's fitting with the game, I just listen to music from other games. Usually go SMT or other music. The song playing in is from Rabi Ribi. Just listen to whatever you like.
Matthew White
Wine runs it perfectly, although it uses MIDI music so you'll need Timidity++ or whatever.
Christian Rogers
If only scrolls of name weren't broken.
I picked up all the medals in towns already, do they ever respawn? Where do I get a business card for a job change? How do I secure immortality and eternal youth for me and my waifu?
Brayden Peterson
Immortality is through grindan Eternal youth is by being nice to loli eldritch princess
Gabriel Young
You can get a business card by winning like 13 blackjack games in a row. Do it when you get the luck buff. I don't think the medals respawn. Just clear dungeons, the end chests usually have some.
Eli Garcia
Made this the other day. It's not compatible with some of the clothing, but it's better than the default. if a bit lewd
If there's no aging death like in ADoM, I suppose that's not a problem.
Carson Davis
How does one determine quality in a piece of armour? What do the numbers represent, exactly, and how can you tell if something is better than another in various ways?
Sure, the numbers go up, but I'm not sure what they mean.
James Garcia
Haven't played it in months, but i've been thinking about it and about making a thread recently.
Carson Phillips
Living the dream.
Jose Jackson
Some sprites I made / altered for my own purposes. The current sprite DB is fucking awful, so small things are easier to make on your own.
Terrorism squirrel is a new mob in elona+ a few versions back.
Xavier Miller
>put the stuffed corpse statue of Erystia in my museum
Benjamin Carter
Are the servers back?
Juan Price
Are you playing Elona+? Scrolls of name don't do anything anymore, this was to prevent abuse of the name system with living weapons.
I just wish the item crafting system was better and didn't depend on shitty gathering points that relied on useless skills. Something akin to an imbuing system or breaking down artifacts for components would be more fun.
Henry Adams
Medals on the map don't respawn, but there's always a guaranteed one at the end of each random dungeon. You can reduce your age by and drinking blessed potions of slow. I've had invisible potion-throwing enemies chuck those at me but it's random and they can be a huge nuisance if they aren't alone, so it's better to buy/pick up the potions and bless them yourself.
Brandon Rogers
Oh so it's not a roguelike.
Levi Torres
Kamikaze yeek is best enemy.
Dominic Cook
Is this game single-player or some kind of MUD?
Jaxson Green
Perma-death is just a single high value factor of the Berlin Interpretation, it's not an absolute requirement.
Jacob Williams
Singleplayer with multiplayer chat and a room-sharing system where you can upload a map for other people to play in on their own.
John Butler
its a nethack but the focus is on saving/progression instead of dieing a lot. It used to have a chat server so you could laugh at other players dieing, but I think thats been discontinued.
Julian Collins
About how much Luck would you recommend for Garok's Hammer?
Leo Cooper
Is there not a way to make our own chat server?
Lincoln Garcia
Xfire Elona+? Steam overlay on Elona+?
Luke Green
I guess not but it shares many similar elements.
Luke Flores
I'm just using it for the name change, but the random seed is the same every time. You're always scrolling through the same list. That's probably why many names can't be rolled this way, even though you know it's possible.
Logan White
Whjat are some cool sprite packs?
Ayden Wilson
Is a machine infantry any goodas a pet? I want a robo-fu
Dominic Bailey
Mani can give you an android.
Robert Miller
I dunno if you guys have seen this already, but noa is working on a new game set in the same universe
It was such a pointless addition but it added so much charm to the game.
John Collins
Well Loople-fukken-doo
Joshua Reed
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Aaron Hall
No more idiots wishing for shit like Pope robes Man I didn't even realize how much I cared about this shit until it was removed
Jack Hall
As shit as moongates could be, I miss them solely because I found one that had enemies that'd give you a free wish when they died.
Dylan Martin
What the fuck there are enemies that do that?
Brandon Bailey
Have some fan art
Jayden Smith
If I'm not wrong, enemies in moongates could have custom programming. I only read about it being used to make enemies that split upon death though.
William Walker
best goddess
Isaac Lopez
Almost right. Kumiromi is actually the best god
Andrew Barnes
I only remember that flash game Elona shooter. Was pretty nice.
Jeremiah Rivera
anybody know reliable ways to increase potential for attributes?
Ethan Williams
git gud at blackjack
Camden Taylor
Join a guild, hire a maid, and always keep at least 3 platinum onhand.
Luke Hughes
3 ways (You need at least 1 good pet and a lot of piety in 1 god)
1.collect materials from him/her to make potions of potential bless than drink
2.Eat the breakfast cook by the pet
3.Invest heavily in magic stores and buy potion of potential and bless them before drinking
Owen Davis
How much do you need to pour into a magic shop for it to sell really good stuff?
Isaac Smith
At least 1 mil
Tyler Robinson
Pic related
Brandon Sullivan
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Julian Stewart
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Dominic Scott
Also 14 year old and a wizard
Mason Wright
Atleast you seem to be drinking your milk.
Samuel Mitchell
Sadly this character is not playable since the bell nerf
He just supported a bell army
Oliver Baker
install noscript
Josiah Reyes
today is a good day
Gavin Powell
>came across the destruction in the Void Well that's several million gold down the drain. At least I got another
Surely you must have some combat capabilities? Did you really get that high-leveled by not fighting?
Damn that's pretty lucky. I only got mine through wishes.
Josiah Baker
Remember, attacking the man in the upper right hand of vernis will give you good starting items. He is in a graveyard
Nolan Cox
I like you
On an unrelated note Alchemy +Magic device can make for an interesting build
Nolan Thompson
Doesn't he have a weapon with the ability to cause ragnarok, or am I mistaken?
Nicholas Hughes
That's the joke
Zachary Torres
I'm still on 1.58. Don't see myself "upgrading" anytime soon. Whoever's running Elona+ must have never played any Dragon Quest game. They're supposed to be nearly immune to magic on top of taking almost no damage from attacks.
Elijah Bell
Some limited capabilities. I have a meteor that is unsustainable and overly destructive and a magic ball too weak to kill bosses.
John Kelly
Kumiromi is awesome; I tend to forget about his looks and imagine him as some slow, wise, fatherly figure who watches over nature like some mega-druid, but his shota-y form is awesome as well and fits right into Elona and the dreamy, early 2000's vibes it has.
Him being what seems to a 15-ish year old boy though is kinda sad sometimes; with his super slow speech I can only imagine him as some child that was lost in the woods forever and eventually literally became one with nature, and he just talks slow out of his wisdom and patience causing him to not want to do much. I can't help but feel that there's a bit of sadness in him though; he just wants peace, and with that vibe of him just being a lost kid, it almost feels like he's holding back some kind of sadness from never being able to live his former life or some shit.
He's an awesome character; while he has everything figured out in terms of wisdom, he seems to have a few things he's struggling with and it's honestly kind of sad for some reason. I'm probably wrong though; the game probably has some good backstory for him later on or something, I can imagine.
Jaxson Barnes
in elona+ he's gone completely insane over his waifu turning into a retarded catgirl
Jonathan Garcia
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Asher Scott
Should've pulled out.
Luke Cox
Does Holla Forums sit on a mount or walk on your own feet?
Jordan Nelson
I'm not a fan of pets, so I walk. Seven league boots and trying to favor gear that increases speed.
Justin Nguyen
Pretty much, I also got a sword with ridiculously high base attack and superior material'd it, this was the result. Now I'm farming for Luck and Small Medals for Garok's Hammer to make it even better. Old screenshot, at this point in time it's +10
Aiden Phillips
No mounts. I've already got my loli, a crazy girl who insists she's my sister, and a divine guardian whom I ended up having to protect rather than the other way. My food budget is stretched as thin as it can be. I should probably get a dedicated farm or something.
William Russell
How the fuck do I even git gud?
Jack Bailey
Supporting this question. I still have problems with doing basic quests.
Levi Baker
Keep playing till you figure it out.
Julian King
'Q'uaff from Wells until you get a wish, wish for seven League boots. Do escort and delivery missions with your new over world speed.
Focus on one form of combat in the beginning, branch out later.
DON'T attack other adventurers
Explore game mechanics until you understand them a la dwarf fortress
Jeremiah Wilson
Alternatively, if you don't want to risk the threat of mutations slowing down your early game progress, get a slave or two from derphy and just have them drink from wells for you - you'll miss out on the positive mutations as well, but any wishes they get will be forfeit to you.
Run through the puppy cave's first floor a few times to find spellbooks, scrolls and rods to sell for a profit after identifying them.
Escort quests are viable at a low level, just avoid the Beauty and the Beast ones because they will result in an ambush attack against your client.
Before It's Too Late quests are worth doing if the time limit is decent - 3 days to go from Vernis to Derphy, for instance, is easily doable even without Seven league Boots.
Austin Thomas
I got to a point where I can afford identifying spellbooks I find in Poppy Cave. Life is starting to look bright.
I will abuse escort quests like you said, but I need help outside of this. 1.How to remove disease stuff? 2.How to get my charisma higher? Being a Lich is hard. 3.I already have gotten Sense Quality. Are there any other useful skills to learn? I know to run around with burden to train your strength. 4.How do I survive more than 2 shots from anything as Lich/Wizard. Melee guys are not a problem but anything bit over leveled kills me on sight.
Luis Barnes
you must go in orders during ether wind to prevent these diseases. (Having 20 will kill you)
1.Easiest way to remove is to win at blackjack and get a potion of cure corruption(4 wins in a row)
2.Increase charisma with charisma related skills ( buying and selling , investing and performing)
3.Learn all skills ( Traveling is one of the best)
4.Better Armor and use the defense buffs(Attribution Shield/holy shield /feather) you should use all buffs really
Cameron Fisher
wait for a lucky day buff and play blackjack. after 5 wins, go for the payout and you should get a potion of cure corruption. if you just started that guy I'd restart, ether mutations are dicks
increasing skills also increases the related stat
all skills can be useful, there isn't a downside to getting them all other than the time you spend getting plat. check the wiki for more info on what all the skills do. Just remember you also need to keep the potential of your important stats up.
Spellcasting is weak at the start as you rely on whatever you can scrape off the floor of the puppy cave until you can get into the mages guild and actually order spellbooks. Lich/wizard is even rougher as they have a lower hp pool.
Daniel Turner
*indoors
Colton Young
1.That's ether disease, remove it by winning 5 rounds of blackjack to get a cure corruption potion. They are super rare and valuable so try to stay out of the etherwind, it happens at the start of months divisible by 3. 2.Fuck people, use inferior material scrolls on engagement amulets until l they are raw then eat them, get charisma based skills and grind them. 3.It's worthwhile to learn as many skills as you can, since it seems you're worried about getting one shot and charisma, learn any skills that go off of those two stats, because as you level them those stats increase.
Adrian Robinson
Jesus was you sitting outside during etherwind? Gotta be careful on the first few days on every 3rd month, stick near town and wait for etherwind to come then talk to a innkeeper to go the shelter and wait it/read it till it passes. You can also do the same in heavy rain and snow.
Disease is only removed from potion of cure corruption, which are a pretty rare find outside of blackjack and high level magic shops. Marrying a pet gets you a free one as well as some coins and some gear. Also worth nothing you die when reach 20+ ether disease mutations.
Give booze to someone then fucking them raises CHR and gives you some money at the risk of getting sick, investing, eating raw wedding rings raises chr potential, eatting putting corpses and preforming expect nothing but death if you try to preform with a really low stat. CHR isn't that important honestly.
You will want all of them at some point but Cooking, Gardening, Lockpicking and Travel are what I aim for 1st.
Get better gear and get swole. You are a wizard so spam your buffs and debuffs. At the start expect to get carried by your little girl. You did start with a little girl right?
Luis Edwards
Every third month, within the first ten days, either wind blows. When that happens get the fuck to the nearest town and go to the innkeeper, and enter the shelter through them. The etherwind causes those particular diseases and can only be cited by a portion of cure corruption, which is semi rare. At this point you might so we make a new character essentially
Nolan Smith
BTW indoors means your house or the shelters(talk to the innkeeper during etherwind)
Keep a scroll of return with you at all times for this
(if you don't know what etherwind is, it is when "snow" falls upwards)
Samuel Ward
Dungeons also count as indoors.
The best starting pet, stat wise and accounting for body parts available, is the little girl
Find all the tiny medals you can in towns. If you see *twinkle* in town, that means there is a medal under your foot. Hit s to search and then grab it. You can also use s to play hot or cold for medals in towns, and use it to search for nearby traps or fake walls in dungeons
Eating blessed food items sometimes grants you a temporary hire luck boost. Play blackjack and read any treasure maps you have (for the first time per map) during these luck boosts.
Benjamin Reyes
Man, you fucked up bad. Makes me glad I've played ADoM before this.
Christian Flores
You either have luck in cards or in love. I wouldn't be in this thread if I had a girlfriend. Got 4 wins in the row multiple times. It got me 2 gold potions. No luck modifiers.
Gavin Young
Who was that user who did a pudit build. I tink its name was yeah what ever or something
Blake Walker
Did you bless them? Blessed potions of cure corruption cure 3 symptoms instead of 2.
Isaac Cook
They were something else not cure corruption. But I found cure corruption randomly in a dungeon afterwards. How do I bless items? I already drank that 1 potion.
Grayson Perez
damn son Dip it in blessed water. Chances are it's already blessed, so identify it first.
Eli Smith
To bless, dip/mix with blessed water. To get blessed water you either find it or you DROP a bottle of water on top of an altar, it will sparkle and when you pick it up again it will be blessed.
Robert Lopez
Should I?
Jose Allen
Ok now I know most of thing I need to know how to survive. I bet I don't know half of mechanics in this game. What is the easiest way to identify items? I know how to get scrolls and NPC who will do this but it is extremely expensive. Is there easy way to get identify spell or something? Same question for uncurse because somehow my items go cursed when I sleep.
Angel Foster
You better be confident in your battle skils
Camden Barnes
You are likely correct
I know how to get scrolls and NPC who will do this but it is extremely expensive. Is there easy way to get identify spell or something?
Once you start making money the npc identifiers won't be a problem. Join a guild (warriors, thieves, wizards) for discounts.never hurts to keep a few scrolls around too.
Same as above Also on character creation /at level 5 you can pick the exorcism feat to prevent sleep curses.
Parker Gray
I was only considering it due to the distance. Ended up doing a before it's too late instead, and then a few more trips back and forth. Now I'm farming seeds in Yowyn, and waiting for a dungeon reset.
Try to find gear that lowers the chances of being cursed. You're gonna need it when you start fighting monsters that can curse your shit. There's also anti-mutation and anti-etherwind armor, but it's rare. You should hoard all sorts of equipment if you can, you never know which resistance or stat you're gonna need. Shops will pay you jack shit for it anyway, and later on you can set up your own shop to sell the gear you don't need.
Connor Bennett
Anyone got any tips for pianist? Right now I can just play at parties and make mad fucking dosh(even if I fail the quest), but how do I progress from here? Skill gain is extremely slow, too
Justin Diaz
Pianist IS a slow skill to gain. Get another instrument you can play on the go on different places. I think there is a party skill you can learn once performer reaches a certain level, this skill lets your entire group perform together for huge benefits.
Keep in mind, Performer is a skill that gets lot a lot of easy and quick dosh later on, but early game you are most likely gonna end up training HP instead by getting stoned by people with SHIT TASTE in music. Be patience, train your combat and play instruments whenever you have a chance to relax
Brayden Roberts
holy SHIT Do superior material scrolls always work this well?
Jackson Gray
Not always, and they don't work on items past a certain level of enchantedness, but they usually work well. Bless them for increased chances at the better materials
Logan Wood
Blessed scrolls of superior material can't give you dragon scale or adamantium.
Jeremiah Ward
I should add, a bullet proof jacket is already loads better than, say, a breastplate. Item quality has as much to do with it as the material (and you did get a pretty good one for the type of armor.
Alexander Baker
Well, it was leather originally. I'll try to fish for more low material, high stat items and see if I can pull this off again.
Tyler Cox
If you have the Sense Quality skill, you can identify equipment just by carrying it around. You can buy it in Yowyn.
Elijah Diaz
Got it as my first skill. Only problem I have is shopkeepers still buying it out for really small money. Quests are much better way to make money, but at least you can train you strength and perception by carrying a lot of stuff.
Pic semi related to my progress. Because of high perception skill of Liches I use guns when I run out of mana.
Jose Collins
There is a Negotiation skill. Gets you better deals when selling, buying and when giving money to shops so that they get upgraded
Elijah Baker
Investing in a shop is not affected by your Negotiation skill, though. It's a separate ability.
Easton Thompson
separate skill you need to upgrade by itself*
Grayson Clark
wow what a coincidence I was just thinking about replaying Elona. I'll post here a small guide that I saved many many blue moons ago in case it helps someone.
EARLY GAME GUIDE: your first order of buisness is to get some money, if you check a town quest board you should see a "before it's too late" quest that has a time limit of 2 - 5 days, try to take ones that have 3 days remaining and look up a map if you are not sure where the quest is taking you. These quests generally give you 8k - 20k gold per quest which will let you buy a full set of decent gear after one or two, a full set of glass gear will be acceptable in the begining, after that go to palmia and go up to the truce ground and choose a god, I recommend yacetact of wealth. After that make your way to Derphy while doing escort/delivery/before it's too late quests and find the slave trader, if you managed to gain some levels you can get some better pets then a little girl from him. This is the jist of stuff you could do at the start but depending on your class and what you want to do this may not apply to you about level 6 - 12, when you are kitted up try out low level dungeons either less then your base level or level 1 while you are gaining platinum try to pick up new skills from trainers like weight lifting/traveling/gardening/investing/negotiation, traveling, negotiation and weight lifting all level "automatically" and the process is quite slow even when the potential is high so having these early is nice to have and gardening can be used to get you all kinds of stat boosts +easy platinum. once you have around 100k in money try investing in a magic shop to level 50 - 60, you can get change material scrolls which will make much better gear out of anything you could buy for a long time. Once you have even better gear from change material scrolls go to vernis and take the quest to kill putits in a basement and get killed in it
Ethan Allen
Shopkeepers pay only 5% of the usual price for equipment. If you want to make money off of equipment, you need your own shop.
Jaxson Gonzalez
It looks like I will do it eventually after I get shit tone of money and find a way how to get a shop.
Pic semi related to my progress. Bought holy shield spell book. I finally can survive.
Jace Phillips
300 hours clocked in and a G*d finally died, only for its FINAL FORM to raze my army
Lincoln Jones
How the fuck do I get more casino chips? I need to cure this fucking etherwind
Joshua Bailey
One of the random items you get when collecting resources. Same as the Yen coins for gashapon machines
Christian Sullivan
Oh poor little one. You get them as materials. Go to dungeon and farm normal materials and eventually you should get them.
Xavier Mitchell
Would anyone here happen to have any wider alternate bar counters for the item sprite sheet? Already searched the entire uploader and some Japanese blogs and still nothing. Counters that actually line up into a long bar would look so much better than those little school desk lookin' things from the default sprite.
Aiden Phillips
what tileset bruh
Mason Adams
The default tileset. also tried searching on pixiv for better tiles.
Dylan Sanders
Just out of curiosity, do people normally savescum in this game? It seems like a fucking awful nightmare without savescumming…
Jack Stewart
Some people do when drinking fountains for wishes or trying to learn how scrolls of superior/inferior material work
Ian King
Dammit user, you made me remember the fact we will never vote for people like Ray of Gay Jay or The Drunk Suika Ibuki. No one will ever find the name of the Pimp Upgrayyd again.
I remember going upon a moongate that had that room. One enemy tied to a rope or gallows. And repeated beatings gave me all the equipment to cheese the early portion of the game. One has to wonder if that's still around.
Gavin Scott
Only 8 more alchemy until I get the Dupli ability. I hate the startup time on magic device builds
Mason Hall
I remember I used to get millions of gold by breaking a kitty bank in one particular house.
Parker Stewart
i treid it but this game is too autistic for me
David Harris
and i`m a literal autist
Noah Campbell
Not normally since there isn't much reason to save scum.
Personally, sometimes the game gets really tedious managing things like hunger or weight so sometimes I die to just not watching those values. That lead to save scumming because it was simply no fun at that point. These days I always just get a Defender because they will save you once from any death per rest so you don't get fucked if you get a little lazy.
Parker Ward
At this point you should just start getting new skills, investing in magic shops, building up your equipment. Figuring out how you can break the game or work around limitations is the best part of Elona and there are quite a few of them.
Ian Miller
That'll be 10 platinum coins plus tip.
Eli Parker
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Jose Campbell
kill all the gays and the faggots
Landon Howard
What if they are both girls?
Noah Bailey
Your wife can also fug you and make you breakfast. You can use the PCC here to give her a naked apron sprite.
Mason Barnes
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Sebastian Myers
What is Holla Forums's god/goddess and guild ?
Aiden Hernandez
JURE
wizard
Andrew Davis
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Joseph Perry
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Adam Morgan
Can you marry NPC's that aren't your pets? I know you can shag prostitutes but I don't want to ever since that one girl killed her customer right in front of me.
Colton Evans
Paid! Just swapped it in now to see how well they align and its just what I was looking for, thanks user. You made an edit off the original I can tell, I'm kinda shit at editing those little details in pixels, so have a small medal for your troubles.
Evan Ross
Why is explosive ammo so satisfying to use?
Evan Roberts
Are you sure you pasted it in correctly? It should occupy the whole 48x48 block, and I see gaps in yours.
No, but you can make anything and anyone a pet if you have the means to.
Leo Evans
Good enough for me. Thanks.
Evan Brown
This just keeps getting better and better.
Ryder Allen
Bitch pls. I started training my faith by sleeping so I waste my time by preforming in towns until i get sleepy.
I trained my Charisma by 1 point and Constitution by 3 because of people trowing rocks at me, while little girl got pregnant with some alien virus which results in her birthing and slaying alien kids repeatedly before me preforming in the middle of the town.
Anyone knows how to deal with alien virus? Leaving it for free experience was tempting but it is far too weird for me.
Tyler Gray
Give her acid.
Ethan Carter
Poison and dye works too. Anything that gives poison or makes you throwup upon drinking it
Luke Reyes
I am gonna get crucified for this, but how the fuck do I put food in the chilly box?
Robert Gomez
'o'pen box, then you can switch between 'put' and 'take' tabs
Jonathan Morales
Lucky day, nearly full mica set, two casino chips. let's do this motherfucker
Josiah Hughes
And then I got fucked over in both rounds.
Josiah Gomez
Learn to count your cards
Jaxon Ortiz
No amount of doing that will prevent going 20 against 21.
Nicholas Williams
In gimp I set the spacing to 48x48 pixels in the gird setting, then 'snap to grid' before setting it in place on the item sheet.Yeah It is taking up the whole block, but there is that slight space in between that looks like the sprite's shadow. They do appear to be touching but just not melding in together like with the counters you'd see in The Sims or something.
Hudson Morris
Yeah, it's the shadow bleeding onto the next sprite's leftmost row.
Nicholas Wilson
I got a rod of dominate, what are some good targets for it? Ideally npc's because now I'm paranoid about dropping it in a dungeon. Also where can I get pets that are good shopkeepers or ones that know cooking?
Cameron Brown
Remember to train magic capactity, kids.
Rogue warriors are the best in the early game. Master thieves are better, and you can buy one from the slave trader at level 65, but by that point, you'll probably be high enough level to find a diabolic clown in level 70 dungeons. Rogue wizards from the slave trader give the cooking skill in gene engineering
Jace Mitchell
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Ethan Davis
Holy shit I missed these threads.
Alright, I plan on going Warmage but maining magic. My only issue is those fucking ancient books. Is there any way to make that grind easier?
Also, is Alchemy and Magic Device worth using at all?
Blake Scott
Alchemy can be used to make potions of potential, body and spirit
Magic device is an easier but less versatile alternative to magic.
No way to make the grind easier
Justin Ortiz
Would magic device benefit me in anyway though?
Elijah Robinson
There are some good spells like lightning ball that is exclusive, the speed buff can also be cast on allies instead of just yourself.
But if you already have a high magic level it is probably not necessary.
Charles Williams
I have a save file I played roughly half a year ago of Elona+.
Is it possible to import it to a newer version of Elona+,or the newest offshoot of it, Elona Custom?
I really do not want to start yet again, especially since the last time I played I clocked 300+ hours.
Colton Powell
Old saves can usually be imported, although naturally you should keep a backup copy in case it doesn't work.
Camden Carter
why is the salt so smug
Jack Cooper
Because it can instantly kill any snail
Oliver Ortiz
What is a generator? i need one to mkae a scroll of change material
Ryan Long
You can get lighting ball from a scroll of wonder. It's not totally exclusive to rods. Since they're not reliable though you're better off magic batterying a thousand rods for the spell stock.
Matthew Phillips
One of the random resources you get from harvesting.
Ryan Scott
I ended up finding three ancient books on one floor. Did they raise the spawn rate or did I just get lucky?
Evan Campbell
Better than Juere Swordsmen? The Swordsmen have higher charisma and negotiation so I thought they'd be better.
Asher Bailey
Finally got Alchemy to 30 and leveled up afterwards, time to hit everything with near infinite amounts of elemental bolts and balls and whatnot.
Joshua Sanchez
I havent played in a long time so im gonna ask Cant pets use gauge attacks? because my full party has full gauge and they never use it
Angel Rogers
nevermind, i forgot Intercept Mode doesnt use Gauge, gotta change them to Onslaught
Easton Perez
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Brody Johnson
Protip: Flour based food NEVER rots, so you can buy or make as much bread/sandwiches/croissants as you want, have food to eat wherever and you wont need to put it in the cooler box. And ofcourse, that food wont attract bandits. Bandits are more likely to attack you the more cargo you are carrying, including traveler's food.
Ethan Parker
Did anyone get a server up and running?
Josiah Long
Not to my knowledge, unfortunately.
Jordan Evans
Abuse teleport scrolls to get away for now. At about level 20 you can usually kick their shit in.
Dominic Long
i've just never been attacked this regularly, does it have to do with luck or something
despite playing this on and off for about two years now i've rarely ever gotten past level 20
Parker Morgan
All that a server is going to add to this game is chat really. Theres a couple roguelike games with this feature though still, TOME, and DCSS, the people on TOME are much more talkative than the DCSS players though.
Camden Nguyen
Chat, wish and death messages are a very important and charming part of the game Also moongates
Jose Morris
Damn never played it like that.I missed out, looks fun And I think that the servers have been gone for quite some time. What do the moongates do?
Nathaniel Robinson
Basically, people could upload rooms to the server, and while playing the game would download a random batch of rooms. When you find and enter a moongate, you get teleported to that unique room. Some people built mansions with waifus and custom sprite npcs, some people built death traps with super strong enemies, some people made weird training rooms where you could punch an enemy and train skills quickly.
Because of reasons, only japanese players could upload rooms, but we were able to visit their rooms just fine.
Yeah I just posted in that about an hour ago or so
Christian Perez
Whoah, okay. Elona Sequel coming to Steam Greenlight?
Xavier Mitchell
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Ryder Wood
Im gonna need to make a new avatar and sprite for this
Angel James
Your fame might play a role as well. I know it determines the strength of a rogue ambush, but I don't know about how often they happen.
Austin Rodriguez
Alright, this same magic vendor in Eirel has been a tad bit too generous lately, and she's not even at soulmate.
Michael Miller
Its a roguelike in every aspect except for that.
Charles Moore
There IS permadeath but the game was NOT balanced for it, at all. When you die you are asked IF you want to come back to life (with whatever penalties you get). You can just say no or play on the permadeath difficulty but you wont have fun.
Ryder Perez
I feel like I should be cringing at the idea of Elona becoming 3d but it actually looks good.
Colton Rogers
Is it 3d or is it some 2.5d thing with high quality sprites to cover it up? Like Tree of Saviour does
Nolan Allen
Well, this is higher quality than I expected. But it has next to no chance of being as raw and fucked up as the original.
Wait, does relationship with vendors affect their shop?
Tyler Cook
Seems to be the opposite. 2D world with 3D animation instead of 3D world with sprite animation.
Ayden Powell
The only sane choice. Modding 2D PCCs is a pain in the dick.
Luis Lee
Not bad for level 25. I wish I had it when I was clearing the cat house, because my ass was getting handed to me there.
Hunter Carter
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Bentley Russell
I normally do, but I went in there to check it out then got killed and dropped my chilly box and so I had to get that shit back.
Christopher Price
Nope, Its all about rank. But she's not even as high compared to my other vendors.
Parker Baker
Did you marry it like a good swordsman?
Christopher Wright
I would if I could
Ryan Butler
Post more waifu swords
Justin Thomas
As great as that image is, you should probably use a change material scroll on it to make it less garbage.
Landon Smith
Ok so I got myself PTSD when I look at the bow. Is there a easy way to train allies? Right now I just run low level dungeons and feed her some food.
Samuel Rodriguez
I will once I get further in. Only level 10 so far and have been using rods and potions as my main source of damage.
Anthony Morris
There's a dojo close to the border with South Tyris that you can drop them off in to train, but I'm not sure how much it costs to use.
Ethan Baker
40k each training. Seems like a good thing but I am too early lv22 to use it.
Zachary Murphy
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Jason Barnes
Clubs boost strength, so if you use scrolls of lesser material to turn the leather club into a raw club, you can eat it to get stronger. You can also eat raw shoes to get faster.
Cameron Green
The Dojo is time and money inefficient, you get more focusing on one pet at a time, just use the new Evochat option to give them 100k gp and feed them regularly. Once their potentials are high enough go train and watch them turn into beasts of power.
Lucas Peterson
You just need to jew harder.
Jason Richardson
Isn't there a mod of this that made everything… better? Especially the shit translation?
Nathaniel Foster
Elona Custom?
Jordan Peterson
I remember being able to change your title, an increased amount of races to choose from (adding mobs to the list that is), and more classes.
Evan Gonzalez
Were you playing one of the other variants like omake or something?
Zachary Fisher
Hehay, neat, Elona. Haven't seen a thread for that in a long while.
Reminder that Big Sis Yacatect of Wealth is best goddess.
Lucas Powell
elona+, yeah the second thing's a config option
Sebastian Scott
Does anyone know what causes NPCs to start lying to you? I'm kind of weirded out by it. All the NPCs in every town are saying the opposite of what they usually say.
OK, it's now 518/5/1 and everyone's talking normally again. I guess Irva has April Fools' Month instead of April Fools' Day?
Julian Carter
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Luke Cruz
h-hot
Brandon Bailey
That's how player shops work.
Ayden Thomas
But I already have Elona+.
Adam Williams
Why is this happening?
Andrew Evans
spooky
Luke Jones
What in the fuck happened to my post?
Thomas Martinez
What do you guys do for money? I used to massively overload on trade goods and walk at a snails pace overworld while my pets stomped the gangs that show up for your goods to afford investing and potions of potential, but overloading was fixed.
Alexander Jackson
I get a pair of seven-league boots as soon as I can and take escort quests. The ones to Noyel are the hardest, but usually have the best payout.
Bentley Morgan
Waste art.
Eli Cruz
Prostitution. My gear maintains all my stats, and I can go to noyel with potions of cure corruption for karma
Brandon Ward
I want to try out elona custom and the latest version is for elona+ 1.60fix, but I can't find this version of elona+ anywhere. Help?
Ah wait, reading again, if you're looking for older version then you'll have to depend on someone else having it. Or you'll have to wait till custom is updated as well
Wyatt Ward
ah well, thanks anyway
kinda weird there isn't an archive of past versions
Logan Myers
I could upload E+ 1.58 and EC 1.58.2 to the share thread's Vola if you want.
Jaxson James
that'd be great, thanks!
Jayden Evans
Uploading now. It'll probably take a while, though.
Luke Miller
Love these threads even if they are once a month which is preferable. Posting a small story. >After purchasing another ranch, I travel to Lumiest to kidnap a loli and slaughter the beggars for gold I also just figured out that if you use squeeze while on a bed with sleepy status, you can sorta rape people
Michael Cook
Shit, man! This crazy bitch just be givin these away like candy, ain't she?
In all my 2300+ hours I've never come across so many wishing books in such a minimal amount of time, and at the same place. Even at my usual 1000+ rank stores, the best stuff I can muster up is like 2-3 wonders and a PoP, and that's with constant scumming. Of course there's still a chance it could just be a coincidence though, but perhaps I struck gold at just the right store rank without even realizing it, and just shouldn't push any higher than 880 or something.
William Morgan
so what do you do with all the wishes?
Evan Reyes
Wish for Elona 2 to be good
William Cruz
I dunno. I guess I'll either summon a bunch of inner gods at a party time quest to cheese music tickets, or stock up on more feather pens to see if that trick with cloning little mutant sisters actually works. But with how languid my style of play is, I might just end up sitting on them, and just watch how pretty they look as the stock reaches the 10s of thousands.
Luke Collins
These things are true though, Gwen is a pretty good corpse generator.
Andrew Reed
Seven League Boots Panties Evolution Dunno what else to ask for after that.
Jackson White
Happy bed Sleep sheep That's usually what I go for.
Nicholas Turner
Is permanent time stopping possible, has anyone done such a build?
Jace Parker
>Go full paladin, start out as a priest with a bronze mace and paper roundshield. >He ends up overcasting to death.
Spend time training your pets. Don't go sword and board.
Thomas Cruz
Sleep sheep? I've bought a dozen of those in stores, is there a reason to wish for one?
Nathan Flores
Banm
Jose Jackson
If you give one to a pet you have a good relationship with and go to sleep with them nearby, you can get this event to happen more often.
Landon James
but did you enable the tweak that improves his AI and makes him significantly more difficult?
Tyler Sanchez
Bam
Evan White
Final bumo
Alexander Murphy
Anyone else here gets emotionally attached to their pets? I've gone so much time with my little girl and juere caster now, I can't imagine playing the game without them
Ian Evans
Why would you? Just dump money and feed them until they are strong and then give them new abilities in South Tyris.
In this game you can train any pet to be strong so just pick whichever you want.
Luke Edwards
Either train them until they are strong, or find strong pets and feed them to your waifu via genetics
Joseph Perry
Anyone plays the legendary 27 slot mutant? I heard it is the most powerful race
Wyatt White
It's possible to have multiple copies of a unique item as long as you don't try to carry both of them at once (including ally inventories). Is it possible to give an ally a unique, store that ally in the Doujou, give another ally the same unique, and then get the first ally back to have multiple allies equipped with the same unique?
Ryder Ross
Another day where I should've done something useful. Another day where I spent it all playing elona+ instead
Jaxson Green
game's too autistic for my autistic mind doesn't help that i'm low on autism after being active on the wurm generals before they became cancer and died
Nathaniel Miller
Postan a portrait graphic that gives some faces a new art style.
I don't think I can ever go back to not having a lifetime supply of potential potions.
Nathaniel Cooper
Pls help I'm retarded and can't find a download link that isn't moonrunes
I uploaded E+/EC 1.58 to the share thread vola again: volafile.io/r/HF33Go Not the latest version, but you should be able to import any saves when a new version of Custom comes out.
Gabriel Thompson
Awww yiss, time to have another try at Elona. I missed these threads.
I'm still a complete greenhorn, though. I tried a Yerles Warrior and did OK, but after a while I couldn't work out what I should be working towards. Any suggestions for a good second run?
What's the difference between E+ and EC? I last played E+ 1.51, so is there a good reason to hop to 1.58?
Zachary Lopez
Elona Custom is like an add-on for Elona+. It aims to translate everything left untranslated in the game (including the main story) and fix bugs unique to the English version, but it also adds a few new features that make the game easier. If's not essential, but it's nice to have. Full list of changes is here: elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/Elona_Custom
Cameron Nguyen
Is there any penalty at all for walking around in circles endlessly on the world map to train stuff? Or is there a timer in the game.