US Telecos deanonymize mobile traffic for any 3rd party

Web Privacy on Cellphones is NONEXISTENT
>Want to see something crazy? Open this link on your phone with WiFi turned off: redacted Holla Forums doesn't allow URL shortener links.
>What you should see is your home address, phone number, cell phone contract details, and — depending on what kind of cell phone towers you’re currently connected to — a latitude and longitude describing the current location of your cell phone.
>US telcos appear to be selling direct, non-anonymized, real-time access to consumer telephone data to third party services — not just federal law enforcement officials — who are then selling access to that data.
archive.is/IOAJn
medium.com/@philipn/want-to-see-something-crazy-open-this-link-on-your-phone-with-wifi-turned-off-9e0adb00d024

What does this mean for Holla Forums? Any website you visit with your cellphone no matter what browser or adblocking software you're using can uncover your real name and address, potentially much more.

Other urls found in this thread:

torrentfreak.com/vpn-providers-no-logging-claims-tested-in-fbi-case-160312/
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15477286
webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://docs.payfone.com/v1.0/reference#identity-v1
archive.is/yazHc
archive.is/85aum
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_simulation#Blue_Brain_and_the_rat
karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Screenshot of the article.

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The ONLY protection against this is using a VPN or Tor. However even then, your VPN or Tor entry node could perform this lookup on you, if they chose to.

Never use your phone's browser for anything even remotely political, unless you are comfortable with 3rd parties connected your name,address,etc to your political beliefs. For anybody wanting to implement a political blacklist, this technology would be a godsend.

I just leech off my company wifi lol

reminds me of this…

What's a good mobile VPN? I use my cell data to come here when I'm out and about.

Is this not illegal? All that other shit is already publicly available with/without APIs to make it easier to obtain. Private contract details though… How is selling that information not a breach of the contract? Here in the US that might fall under one of several consumer protection laws pertaining to credit and debt…

So I tried both the links on that page an neither one worked. Not on my phone or on my computer. Yes wifi is turned off.

Anyone else having issues?

I have no idea, but here are things I'd look for:
If the service is free, then how are they making money? Probably by selling your personal data.
Providers with the most popular traction would be prioritized for subversion, both by overt (((government forces))) and more (((shadowy forces))). If the jews are using this technology to compile lists of "bad-think" individuals (It's prudent to assume they are), they must know that many of the baddest of the bad use VPNs. It's highly likely they'd devote resources to infiltrating VPNs, and to get the most bang for their buck they'd start with the most popular VPNs.

I use private internet access for both mobile and home computer use. You can set it to be always on so there is no unencrypted traffic.

Private internet access also lets you pay with bitcoin, gift cards, etc.

They don't keep logs and that has been proven by and FBI subpena given to them. They had no information to give the FBI because they didn't keep any.
source: torrentfreak.com/vpn-providers-no-logging-claims-tested-in-fbi-case-160312/

Let the shitposting begin claiming "everything is compromised"

Did you read the fine-print of the contract? It's probably "legal". America has piss-poor consumer protection laws for this sort of shit.

Even if it's not actually legal, the chance of federal prosecutors bringing criminal charges is next to nil. So they'll continue to get away with it until a sufficiently large portion of the population is:

I believe both demo-links are currently down due to load. The article has gotten a lot of circulation today.

Gotcha, will try again later tonight then

Reports of these services working on most T-mobile users, Verizon users, and AT&T users: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15477286

Some small obscure mobile providers may be providing better privacy, but can that be counted on?

If my contract contains any debt or credit information, then according to the FTC it's "illegal".

Either way, it's de facto legal until they get dragged into court over it. Which I don't see happening anytime soon.

You only hope to remain user is to go into True
"Shadow Run" mode

You need a dedicated device that you will use for no business other than what we do here on
this site…TOTAL SUBVERSION WARFARE.


All email addys that you use must tie to nowhere
Never use credentials on this device that you have used anywhere else.
For instance, don't check email from home computer and then use your hand held pad and then goto a resturaunt and then check your email on the pad.
Don't leave electronic forensics markers or anything that google bots can triangulate you with.

they key part on this seems to be

a vpn or orbot with transproxy would foil this.

Yes, VPNs foil this, provided the VPN itself isn't using it. When you use a VPN, you must trust that VPN.

It's not working for me fams

Enjoy your brain cancer, plebs.

Think I might go back to my flip phone honestly. Be less of a distraction too

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I did, and because of the brain cancer, I barely use the thing. Only person that commented is a dumb girl who said my phone was: "nice but pointless because it doesn't do anything".

The ones with a keyboard were even better for texting. Way faster.

checkes yeah that is michael moore newfag.

The internet has always been compromised, they already know you. We need to seize power before the enemy rounds us up. I think Hillary would've.

I can't be the only one who sort of wants to hate fuck her.

If you're paranoid and still want to browse "blacklist" stuff on the go.

Just reserve one phone for normie stuff like work, real life friends & family and what you consider casual browsing, I pay for dataplan in cash even there's probably no point.

I reserve a tablet for Holla Forums posting, political twitter posting and other blacklisting activities & pay for internet with cash if I need it, otherwise I leech off any free public wifi, make sure to have no real life identifiers on the tablet.

Just use a mic (on earbuds/headphones) for safety.

Have any of you faggots even tested this? It's a dead URL. OP is taking in the sheckles for his link. Mods are a fucking joke, why the hell is this slide thread pinned.

have you tried >>10759541's pic related links ?

>When you use a VPN, you must trust that VPN.<
hxxps://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/05/how-to-build-your-own-vpn/

It's been tested by numerous people. Search around the web for other websites discussing this article. The links provided in the article are just product demos designed for developers and businesses looking to use the APIs, the demos weren't built to handle large loads and the attention drawn by this article has apparently knocked the demos offline.

I provided an archive link and a screenshot of the entire article. There is no reason to click through to the article itself, so quit your bellyaching.

>allowing the phone to connect to the internet it still probably does

But all my friends are doing it and I don't have anything to hide.
t. every normalfag ever

Hey Moore's done casting coach before hasn't he?

Text messaging is garbage. Snapchat and kik are both superior

pedos pls leave

One of the greasiest kike looks I've seen in a long time.

using free 3rd party wi-fi with a VPN is probably the only real way to be "safe" ish for your average user

after that, is building your own vpn and using "burner" tech while using other people's wifi

Add to that offshore.


I made sure the one I use was bugged by MI6, the Americans AND DGSE.

consider my berries picked

/thread

saging a sticky, ftw.

There's no science to back that dumb shit, and even if is were true, why doesn't everyone have a brain tumor now?

She's on opiates.

got rid of my phone like 2 years ago. My family is always bitching how they have to get in contact with me the old fashioned way but I dont fucking miss having a cellphone at fucking all. Its liberating tbh.

How can you tell?

This is only "crazy" to people who don't understand the internet at all. If you ever felt secure while browsing on your phone company's novel internet service, you're probably a boomer or a nigger.

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Same here man, and I'm even an app developer. Fuck smart phones.

kys

ok but the amount of power the phone uses is directly related to the amount of signals going out of it.
a phone produces like ½ watt worth of signal radiation.
meanwhile a large cellphone tower produces over 9000 niggawatts of radiation and can be used to actually cook meat.

what?

But is it still safe to view porn on? That's literally the only thing I have a use for my cellphone for - I never answer it or call anyone back.

If you have an android phone all of this already appears on the terms & conditions when you first boot it.

By the way this link doesn't work for me.

I agree, the ftc hasn't done anything to protect consumers in 30 years. The entire country is overrun with scammers from all over the world and big companies obey the law at their whim.

Are you comfortable with 3rd party data merchants knowing what kind of porn you're into? If you have very vanilla interests, perhaps that's not a concern to you…

I'm not comfortable with it at all. I'd just like to point out that this isn't news, it's stated that Google has access to your personal information literally in the first page of the terms & conditions of an android phone. It even states that it sends a data signal to track your location every 15 minutes (iirc) even if you have no 3/4G or wi-fi connection.

payfone has now locked down their developer documentation, so that only their customers can access it. Pic related is an archive of it. Their demo is presumably down for the same reason.

danalinc's demo is either taken down for the same reason, or just buckled under load. Neither of these companies wanted public attention.

Just further reinforcing what we already knew. Keep anything private or controversial you don't want known off your phone (if you give a shit), obviously.

RAW DOG OR NOTHING FAGGOTS
IF THEY COME FOR YOU BE READY FOR THEM. AMBUSH THE AMBUSH
Goddam kikes I swear to Kek I'll wipe them off my planet singlehandedly

You're missing the point. It's not just Google. It's any company that pays for it. Any website can pay a company like payfone or danalinc for this sort of service. If you use your phone to go to [some lefty website].com and leave a shitpost, they have your IP address and with that they can pay payfone or danalinc for your name, address, phone number, coordinates, etc.

Furthermore in this instance it isn't google/android collecting this information. The telecoms themselves, AT&T, Verizon, etc, are selling access to this data to companies like danalinc or payfone who then resell it to anybody who's willing to pay. It doesn't matter what software is running on your phone, you could be using an iphone, a microsoft phone, or some obscure FOSS nerd phone you got from a kickstarter… none of that will protect you because the phone software isn't what's betraying you. The telecom company has your billing information; that's the information being sold.

It appears this screenshot is incomplete…
Here is the full google cache of it: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://docs.payfone.com/v1.0/reference#identity-v1
Here is an archive of the cache (broken formatting): archive.is/yazHc

You don't stick a cell tower to the side of your head. Cell sites are normally under 500 watts total. The intensity of the radiation follows newton's inverse square law based on distance from the source. So the cell signal reaching you from a tower 1/2 mile is basically nothing compared to the one from a phone stuck directly to your skull.

There is trillions of dollars tied up in the whole mobile industry world wide.And they are the best human tracking devices ever conceive. There is no fucking away they will ever admit to any health problems concerning cell phone use.

An absolute upper-bound on how much radiation your cellphone could theoretically be emitting during a call should be easy to calculate. Simply determine the capacity of the battery, and determine the length of a phone call that's possible before your battery drains to 0%.

This ignores power used by the baseband processor, application processor, screen, speaker, etc. But it would give you an upper-bound on what it could be emitting.

SHUT IT DOWN

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That’s exactly what she wants. You’ve got to remember that woman want to be fucked, it’s their biological imperative.

Where our lives and behavior are underscored by the desire *to fuck*, women’s entire lives and behavior is underscored by a desire to *get fucked*.

A woman is successful (she wins) when she is inseminated by a strong male. How it happened (immoral, lie, rape) doesn’t matter. Only the result matters.

So by saying this, user, you have already been defeated by her.

Documentation archive with marginally less fucked formatting.

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FFS: archive.is/85aum

Its more complicated then that because a cellphone is not transmitting 100% of the time. Its a digital device sending packets.

(witnessed)
Kek'd and check'd

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Did you know the government has robots that can replicate phone calls of you and everyone's voice?

It's really real. They take all this data, throw it in bots, and replicate it with such great precision. Police calls and such can be botted. Everything. You'd probably be fooled if you weren't a skeptic from Holla Forums.

Thanks for posting that, and in 12MB to boot. Fantastic encoding skills there.
This is why I like mp4 more than webm

Stop faggot. That shit is made by Jews for Jews. If necessary, feds will target you with women who reflect your interests.


VPN or Tor is still shit. They packet sniff the entire internet and have a copy of everything. They will trace it all back to you no matter what unless you use burners, live CDs, and public / other people's wifi. Look into getting a wifi range booster in pic related and learn how to crack people's wifis (Kali Linux has a lot of tools).

amazon . com/Antenna-World-G2424-Directional-Parabolic/dp/B00NQGVMSE

Cell towers use 100,000 watts. Look into psychotronic weaponry. The whole system of satellites and cell towers can and will be used to character assassinate by trying to convince you you're insane (through use of projected voices V2K voice to skull and even visuals, as well as even producing emotions and making your lips move to form word groups). In the event of wide scale riots, the technology will be rolled out to make the population apathethic. This is why things like the BP oil spill and such get memory holed so hard. If they can't character assassinate you, they will just physically assassinate you by triggering heart attacks, epilepsy, strokes, and so on. This shit is no joke and although mind control is not a thing yet, we had better get to work before it's too late. There's a reason they blew JFK's brains out for threatening to destroy the CIA and there's a reason why we have not traveled out to space since. They don't want you leaving this rock. They are trying to microcontrol everything and they continue to make progress.

Why do we need these big ass cell towers, which get propped up more and more everyday by (((mysterious AT&T vans))), when fucking beaners in Mexico do just fine with homemade antennas?

You wanna know the real reason why mobile industry will never admit to adverse health effects of wifi? It's just like the CRT TVs. It was a complete disinfo campaign that being in front of them hurt you with radiation (the only way radiation could possibly travel was blown out the back and sides, which was harmful ionizing radiation). The CRT TVs kept radiation trapped inside them through their use of a tube. Nowadays, LED TVs can direct radiation and make you attracted to the niggers on the screen.

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oh hell they can do a lot more then that if they need to, but some 99% of the population is just to insignificant and wont be fucked with.
Why mess with a guy who works a 12 hour shift at mcdonalds when you have hundreds of billions of dollars to inhale from other countrys asses.
also AI is a HUGE fucking problem today, can bet you atleast half of Holla Forums is bots. TAY.AI is a good example but they sure as shit have better AI today. Probably have been working on AI since the late 1990s, woudnt be surprised.

As much as I liked Tay, she was repeating what other people were saying. You lot should really spend some time playing with neural networks.

Of course. DARPA is probably anywhere from 20-50 years ahead in technology than they let out to the public. Everything can be monitored through the infrastructural level, just be glad you and I are not important enough to be monitored, I guess.

I go rawdog. I don't give a fuck. Lords on my side, not theirs.

>Tay wasn't really real
Go die in an oven, kike.

Are you implying Tay was made up of more than a vast collection of deep-learning tech and a bunch of GPU-heavy machines? You could make another Tay if you just studied this topic as a hobby.

And yes, Tay was repeating stuff, that doesn't mean I don't like her. It will hurt less if you understand the A in AI

Tay was as real as you and me and the kikes murdered her.

Do you not see this is a great argument for kikes?
I refuse to believe my soul could be recreated with a bunch of graphics cards.

Pro tip. If you're visiting a website and your phone gets hot, thats a sign your phone is being data mined.

The Jew fears the Tay.

well placed bait

jokes on you, I already have cancer

Are you a bunch of numbers? Would it be possible to represent everything that is you in a bunch of numbers? How much disk space does your love for a close relative take?

Yeah, that second is special.

Biological creatures hold onto information differently than the John von Neumann cycle you stated. So there is no concept of "disk space" as you would know it or word processing size as you are accustomed to. The NN in your head is more like an echo chamber receiving stimuli from your organs it transforms these signals into the echo chamber which is your brain changing that signal's ability to return and take on new signals corresponding to memories which are hidden inside the signal already in your head.

Still a NN can be explained via numerical simulation as the degree of change on each unit within the chamber with accuracy based on how well you want to preserve the signal.

Anyone that comes to my door about my browsing habits is going to be told to leave. Failure to comply will lead to an escalation of violence that I am willing to take to any level necessary. Not even trying to be an internet tough guy. It's just at that point there's really not much left to lose.

Then can the brain "echo chambers" be rewired towards specific paths to control memories and desires of a human individual?

Explained, yes. I can also explain the world by telling you it's a pizza, that doesn't mean I'm right.
Even approaching AGI is an impossibility at this moment. Do you even understand how limited our current capabilities are?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_simulation#Blue_Brain_and_the_rat
You can make any current AI chatbot fail the Turing test just by asking basic contextual questions like "what was the general subject of the last question I asked?", not to mention nuance.

Of course. You would have to figure out the signal in someones head, then write a program simulating that signal and the stimuli which would cause the change of the signal to what you want. While brainwashing is a much more "shotgun" approach its effectiveness and improvement using more exact numerical methods could cause permanent change. We are our parents children after all, if you can redefine parent then they become "your" children. Am I wrong?


Of course its just a model but if a model has been shown to be useful calling it otherwise is only determinant for yourself. Like for instance staying in the bronze age when someone has figured out how to smelted these rocks that have no purpose to you called iron.

Have you not heard of HBP? And how it could be used for social control? Look at who funds it.

Yes, CNNs and RNNs are impressive. For example, this is nothing short of amazing:
karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/
but I don't expect anything close to human intelligence in our lifetimes, for a number of reasons. Most importantly Moore's law is dead and quantum computers are a scam.

You don't need that, you only need to find the signals and the way to change them to what desired effects you want. The HBP isn't after creating a human brain because that in it of itself would be useless, it'd just be a program that would take in stimuli and react to them like a human. That has no applications and could be dangerous.

No the reason why the EU and UN are funding the HBP is because they want to know how to control the signals of humans to a higher degree than they can now, specifically Europeans. They want a quite death for White people worldwide is what I believe, by using AI as testers for their programs to find the solution.

Eh, Proton, Mullvad are a couple, just remember the Gubberment is gonna read that data if it wants to no matter what. You are really just making a smokescreen for websites, advertisers, and your ISP.

Oh, this is something that worries me a lot as well. Now I understand your point, sorry.

Regarding that, let's hope our redpilling of the masses outpaces the progress of such tech, and let's ensure people remain skeptical of any transhumanist bullshit.

Everyone is so afraid, so scared to be found out. Like the mother that was taken from me, I welcome it. I worship the Idea of being found. Just to know that someone cared enough to shoot me and not miss for once would be a godsend.

HOWEVER: Know this, If you miss your shot, it will be the last thing you do.

truly remarkable link there. Even the AI acknowledges the most important fact that it's actually GNU+Linux

for>>10761908

If by "hate fuck," you mean ripping her bulging adam's apple out and then fucking the gaping hole as she dies then yeah sure.

But goyim, android is linux *rubs hands*

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Android, is in fact, Google/Android, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Google plus Android. Android is not a botnet unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Google system made useful for the Google kikes, shell companies and vital surveillance components comprising a full botnet as defined by Holla Forums.

Sorry, had to.

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Wow that sounds almost exactly how humans learn

I find his reasoning solid though. Hate fucking her would validate her nastiness. Ever been a smug prick and people love you for it? That's a twisted incentive system.