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GTA V Redux
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you need to explain more.
Looks like a mod for GTA V
Does is actually make GTAV remotely entertaining?
Did they revamp the horribly cartoony driving, the bb guns they give you, vehicle damage, physics, euphoria, etc. etc. Or did they just do graphics?
GTA5 shat all over everything GTA4 did right.
just watched the vid and yeah looks like they did
I'll have to look into this. I was terribly bored by the base game and the multiplayer.
ok cool
now the only thing they need to fix is the map.
Yea thanks rockstar for the gigantic map, only problem is it's fucking empty……
I would rather have a smaller city than a gigantic field of absolutely fucking nothing.
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The biggest criticism of GTA V is how assholish the police are in that game, more than any other GTA to date. Walking up to an officer and standing in front of him for ten seconds makes him take out a gun and shoot you.
So what does this mod do to fix the horrible police AI? FUCKING NOTHING, instead it just makes it even WORSE by adding the military into the mix.
Fuck this mod and fuck the shill OP. Check my dubs.
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Umm I just watched the video and I think the point was to add the FBI and the Military because well it's a GTA game and they have been absent for a long time.
also if you think the police were punishing at all in gta5 you are probably retarded
well the included euphoria ragdolls is probably enough to make it worthwhile
cost?
seems like an awfully big project to be handed out for free.
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Fighting the police is what makes GTA GTA you double nigger. It needs to be as intense as possible.
I was speaking more towards the difficulty level of trying to kill them as your faggy complaint revolved around the FBI and Military being included. In other words if you are fighting FBI and military you have a high wanted level and if you are complaining about how hard the cops are in GTA5 vanilla then you are a fucking pussy.
also note that I think gta4 is the superior game in every way besides content.
The point is not that the police are punishing; it's that they are overtly aggressive. If they see you do a minor offense, they pull their guns and fire. In GTA4 however, they try to arrest you.
They are more annoying than anything. Doing anything wrong results in a star, no matter where the fuck you are. If you kill everyone in the area you think there would be no one to phone it in but NOPE you just get more stars.
Yea that needs to be fixed. In fact I wish they would do the old school gta thing and not pull out their firearms until you either
A try to outrun them
B Shoot at them
C pull a weapon
I wish they would just try to beat you with nightsticks and taze your ass if you fuck with them. I used to love fighting cops.
you can get arrested in gta5
t.been arrasted in gta5 guy
That's more related to the bad game design of GTA5 than anything involving the inclusion of better security operatives.
The game is retarded because you can still get wanted if you kill someone in the desert with a silenced weapon.
I know you can get arrested, but I'm saying that I wish they wouldn't pull their guns out unless there was a good reason. At 1 star they chase after you with guns and try to "Hold you up" and if you run too far they start shooting(I like them shooting when you run too far though) I wish they would respond to non lethal aggression with nightsticks and tazers.
US police don't use those anymore silly
that would be neat though
What? I thought every police officer carried a collapsible baton(though it's just for breaking windows and shit they could still use it to crack some skulls)
This. If anything, GTA V's trigger happy cops are the miles more realistic.
What i thought was retarded was how the snipers in the the helicopters was able to hit me behind the wheel, every single time.
you can duck in the car
Sounds to me just like an almagamation of a bunch of already existing mods.
And GTA V mods dont do fuck all to fix the biggest problem of the game. ITS FUCKING EMPTY even on PC
That's my main complaint. I just want to explore a nice comfy city. I don't understand these autists who want to ride around on trains and fly planes(in a horrible game to fly planes in nonetheless) over a gigantic empty desert.
tasers don't always work that well if you tase someone they can still power through it and stab you to death
vid related is basically a meme now
Ok but still If they are going to include Tazers and Nightsticks in the game as usable weapons I would like if if the police would actually use them.
Yeah, this shit pisses me off. I found myself playing Watch Dogs and enjoying it more, even tough the game is trash, because the city is way more populated. GTA V is a ghost town.
also I'm sorry I keep spelling taser wrong. Blame it on fucking Goldeneye N64 for writing Tazer Boy on the fucking taser.
I know right? Wtf happened to all that "Living Breathing World" bullshit they keep spouting? There is literally nothing going on in GTA5's city. You would think that they would expand upon the framework they built in gta4, but no it's all about adding planes, trains, and automobiles for the GTASA autists who like to ride around on tractors in the fucking countryside.
The one thing I miss from GTA IV was the combat. Goddamn was it satisfying as fuck.
Or hell, hand to hand when you could brutalize someone in a fight like in the video posted earlier.
I completely forgot you could throw shit at people as well.
Mostly just re-implements missing stuff from GTA4 such as good cars and police AI. Haven't tried it though.
The euphoria and the way you could swing the bat in 4 was really fucking awesome. I used to love running into and pushing people on the ground then pulling out the baseball bat and getting a free shot on their head as they rise from the ground. You can get alot of 1 hit knockouts in gta4 if you line everything up right.
The police don't need to be harder via perfect aim.
They need to have shit aim, but be hard via better AI and tactics
Even that's debatable.
wtf, I hate this mod now
IDK there is definitely way more items, services, etc. in GTA5. But, everything in gta4 was just done so much better that it doesn't even matter
Another thing I really missed about the old gta4 fighting was being able to mix up your punches and shit. I used to like playing as Johnny because he was a little taller and his punches arc'd in these perfect hooks. So what I would do is circle around people and land these perfect hooks into their faces and get alot of 1 hit KO's. Or if I'm niko I liked to land quick jabs to the face and circle into position to land a good hard right cross on the jaw. In GTA5 there is no nuance to the fighting you just tap the punch button and he does different moves depending on the direction you are facing…It's such shit.
Thing that killed that game for me were the shit textures and washedout filters. It was even worse than in Deus Ex HR.
Especially if you're black, seriously, the cops kill black people all the time and it's awful.
Fucking racist fucking cops.
Fuck the pigs.
Idiot
Graphics don't really kill a game for me they just piss me off. I just really hated how they pretty much took everything physics related and toned it down to retard levels. Even the goddamn running and walking in gta4 were better. Not to mention the weapon sound effects, weapon damage, bullet spread, etc. It's such garbage. I remember the first time I picked up the .357 Desert eagle in GTA4 and felt the awesome power of it(well awesome for gunplay in a gta game) then in GTA5 you just feel like you are shooting BB guns even though they added movable parts and shit the impact and feeling of shooting people is just total fucking garbage in gta5. It's truly the game for the pleb.
so thats a no
I meant GTAIV had shit visuals. The map was small but you're right, every aspect of that game felt solid. I like how you could even pick up and throw trash at people. The map was too damn small though. As far as variety goes, GTAIV had a lot of missing features from SA and Vice City too.
This
so has anyone here even tried this mod yet? Does it actually recreate the some of the awesomeness of 4? I'm not going to redownload GTA5 and install all this shit if it's not fun.
The game has a fictional campaign between a maritally-troubled female democrat and a male former television star with a promiscuous love life running as a conservative. I bet they replaced all the billboards between the two fictional candidates with Clinton and Trump's.
To think in a few years, that joke will become as irrelevant as the past 4 seasons of South park.
oh lol yea I didn't like the washed out look of gta4. Everything was also REALLY REALLY REALLY grey. Enb and texture mods fixed alot of that for me.
I hope that shit's optional because otherwise this actually seems pretty neat.
WELL SHIT
IVs' driving was much more enjoyable
wait a second. so you actually think the driving in gta4 was worse than the toy cars you drive around in 5?
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the cars felt like fucking boats, it was terrible.
Nobody said anything about realism, please stop arguing against some boogeyman
Now I know it's a faggot shill
Muh BOATS
this is the shit that faggot reviewers said and gta5 shills say about 4
I will admit that GTAIV is the superior product in terms of the open world, but the only things GTAV had over IV was the superior gunplay and driving mechanics. Anyone who says GTAIV had good driving is a fucking idiot.
We've all seen that argument before when people defend IV's driving.
IT WAS REALISTIC
Either way it controlled like a ton of shit.
have you ever driven a boat.
I disagree, GTA4 had arcady driving that was fun. GTA5 had the same canned stiff boring driving that every game has. Might as well play WatchDogs.
he probably hasn't driven anything if he thinks the RC cars in GTA5 were "Fun to drive"
Yeah? Well that argument isn't here you fucking sperg
Yeah, I have no idea why they think real-life advertisements are a good idea
I love the handling argument between gta4 and 5. Only because 5 is the same as 4 only toned down and made for retards. It shows your plebian nature when you shit on 4's mechanics in comparison to 5.
It wasn't realistic, but it added more depth to the driving and allowed for a much bigger variety in car handling. In GTA V, most cars handle the same and are basically divided by size.
no it wasn't, it was like driving on ice.
NO
it's irrelevant if I've driven a car or a boat or a fucking plane. What matters is the level of control I have over the player object. I want something tight, responsive and fast. I don't want something sluggish, slow and unresponsive.
Ok at least he admitted he just wanted every car to feel like a nissan GTR
arguments over
I don't understand people that can't get a feel for the physics in games. Like the people that think 2D Sonic is "hard to control". Unless all game-motion is completely linear, they can't wrap their heads around it.
Their brains can't handle the basic mathematical calculations that are performed automatically by most people. They have bad hand eye coordination and realistic physics fuck with their brains in weird ways. I can also guarantee that these people suck ass at actual physical activities and can't do basic things like spiral a football.
There's a difference between 2D Sonic and IV. The one thing being that Sonic is actually responsive. IV was just sloppy and unresponsive.
Hasn't school started yet?
because its not 1:1 input
if you push on the dpad and you're not moving sort of fast into fast, its weird
to most people, megaman is like the best 2d movement,
you can tap to move one pixel and move at full speed at all times
also to some people, you can get "motion sick" if the movement isn't 1:1
You are the guy who said he doesn't have the agency to get behind the wheel of a car and you are asking me about school?
iz game still nigguh frandly?
How old are you? 16?
Then why describe the driving with the comparison to boats. That’s like making a comparison to cars driving like shit because the Caterpillar 797 exists.
but it isn't
It's just unresponsive for you
maybe you don't know to to effectively brake, maybe you can't do alot of things, but I and other players have done some amazing things in 4 and the difficulty of the driving makes it all that more fun
Compare that with 5's driving and online races. They are piss because there is no difficulty in the driving.
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There wasn't any military response in 4 and 5. You can get the maximum star count and the military never shows up.
Cool
Too bad my rig is old and there's absolutely no reason to upgrade it
Looks pretty neat. Though I'm mostly just interested in the euphoria physics changes. The game still has a fuckton of flaws but at least some of the changes might make it more fun to fuck around in.
I don't get why they replaced the ads with real life ads though. That's just stupid.
The feminization of men has most likely diminished the advantage men normally have over women when it comes to depth perception, motion control, and spacial awareness. Odds are he's a fairly effeminate guy who hates having to react ahead of time and judge distances.
I was mocking your usage of the term umm. Stop talking like a girl in highscool.
jesus christ, who the fuck is paying you to shill on my board? I've heard this argument so many times. It's not a good driving system, this is an objective fact. GTAV was basic as shit, but at least cars made a decent turn when you controlled them. MUH BRAKES is another argument you retards use when you're confronted with the fact that realism doesn't equal good game design. It's not a good driving system, it's not even arcadey. it's just utter garbage.
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ayyyyyy fam lotsa city nigguhs don't b drivin cuh we got dem trainz n public transportation fam but dey cost money u kno so we need mo money fo dem programz
He's a really smart guy as evident by his posts
user, do you even listen to the shit you say?
You are a brain dead retard.
Then explain to me why IVfags all have the same recycled arguments. they usually go for muh realism or muh brakes or just flat out go muh physics. it's a terrible driving system that gives you no control over your car and it gives no sense of speed.
I'm not the one hoping from VPN to VPN just to prove a point
you are the one using a recycled argument. You literally pulled out the MUH BOATS argument that GTA5 shills use and paid video game reviewers use to shit on 4 and promote gta5.
Friends, friends, you're both wrong.
Pic related is the only game with a good driving system.
People coming to a consensus on why they like something? fucking christ
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Now his conspiratorial mind thinks I'm going around and samefagging with different ID's.
Because thats why most gta players like gta 4 more you dummy. Gta4 has much deeper mechanics lending to the feel of a city with real people. When comparing gta4 to gta5 the most sensible thing is to point out what it did wrong in relation to its predecessor. Now how about you explain how there can be shills for an almost 9 year old game?
You wanna know how I know you're gonna be one of those (125) posters?
You dense mother fucker, I say Muh Boats since that's what they are. Hell even Rockstar themselves admitted that the driving in IV felt like Boats. It's just a bunch of retarded fanboys who grew up with the PS2
Which is what GTAV fucks up because everything is played out according to a "chase script". The police instantly know you did something wrong no matter how discreet you were; you can get a wanted level for firing a suppressed weapon in the desert. When you do get that wanted level, the game decides how long the pursuit is going to last. Until that timer runs out, the police will constantly and doggedly rubberband after you, even literally spawning on top of you to keep the pursuit going. Once the arbitrary time limit is hit, they fuck off and stop trying so that you can easily escape.
It's retarded, it's boring, and worst of all it prevents emergent gameplay because everything is always stricly on rails.
now he's crying and shitting his pants
Just leave you aren't defending an identity we are anonymous here it's ok. Just go disappear because everyone here thinks your opinion is as shit as your hand eye coordination.
Nigger I've played every gta and I happen to like the driving in one that you don't
there you go with the boogeymen again
This driving discussion reminded me of this video, it goes on about the driving in 4 compared to 5, thought it might be a nice way to fuel the fla- I mean, fan the flames.
Of course they did in order to promote their new game and justify dumbing down the driving mechanics for all you little retards who couldn't into driving in 4. It's a justification of shitting up a system.
Poor toby. Why did michael hate him so much.
Fan away friend this fucker can't take the heat anyway.
And now he got BURNED.
its pronounced redo tho
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no fuck you user, IV does a lot of things right. but the driving is so bad that people ordered taxis just to move around from place to place. It's a terrible driving system that needed to be modded with the realism mod just to be playable. For fucking around it's great, but for people who actually play the game instead of fucking hookers and stealing their cash, it's a fucking mess of a system and it needed to be retooled. Am I defending V's driving system for being samey, no but I will say that it's MUCH better than the ice skater fest that was IV?
it's not my fault you're objectively wrong and I'm objectively right.
The heat was too much for the hothead he abandoned his post when he realized his position and sperging were indefensible.
Does it make the game not shit?
his eyebrows look like exclamation marks
I was expecting like 20 replies
Oh shit you got me though. Time to leave I guess.
depends, do you like IV? if yes then yes, if no then no.
Hey guys look he continues to shit in his pants. I love it.
what does that have to do with the driving? I already know IV is a better game when it comes to its world and how you interact with it. My main issue is with the driving in IV and the gunplay in IV.
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yes, I'm really fucking mad.
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you know he's right
bitch, I am right.
seriously I love this guy he should be archived. His responses were perfect. He goes from denial to conspiracy to sperg, to delirium all in a matter of minutes.
The car mechanics lend to the depth of gta4. Think about it user. In gta5 almost all the cars operate the same way. Contrast this to gta4 where different types of cars have different advantages and disadvantages. You need to have the right car for the job oftentimes. This led to you using different cars for different missions oftentimes, lending to variety and depth.
Sometimes it's the restrictions that add to a game more, rather than everything being great. Contrast new vegas skill and perks system compare to fallout 4. Its often about what you can't do that makes the game.
Niggas wanna be like Big Boss so bad, theyre burnin themselves now.
Unless it brings back
I won't bother with it.
I'm sorry but how gunplay in V is superior to IV? In IV even a basic pistol is satisfying to shoot, while in V a lot of guns are feeling like peashooters, not to mention that retarded weapon wheel, that forces you to keep or pick up from enemies inferior guns.
Shut the fuck up, you sound equally as gay as he does right now.
sorry I just get over-satisfied when people shit their pants all over a thread
that's true, but even so. in GTA IV fast cars felt like shit when turning.
Well I'm talking more weapon wheel and weapon accessibility.
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Filtering IDs is truly a wonderful thing.
calm your tits nigger.
Adding that would be like re-adding stats to Skyrim. It's good, but nothing will change the fact that all the actual story and side content is fucking terrible.
I just liked how enemies reacted to being shot. It adds weight to the bullets and feels like you make an effect. Like comparing skyrims swordplay to mount and blade. Theres a big difference because your weapons feel like they have an impact.
Cause theyre going fast user. You're not going to drive 200 miles an hour and turn perfectly. Its all about timing and premeditation. its an added layer of depth that adds to the satisfaction of properly anticipating how your car will react, how the pedestrians, enemies, cops, etc will too, and doing it perfectly at high speeds.
also it's like he doesn't even know how to use the handbrake in 4. Even though it's a stupid mechanic in terms of realism it made the driving fun.
kys
Are you sure you talking about V and not IV? Because the impact was stronger in IV thanks to better audio design, animations and euphoria physics.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the black communities crime/murder rate that the police officers take certain precautions by wanting to shoot them before they get shot themselves
also, more whites are killed by cops overall, even though blacks make up a way over proportionate amount of the murders based on their total population within the US
but fuck the cops right, nigger
they want the white mans women, the white man's toys, the white mans country, etc. etc. without the white man in it
sadly though all those things usually leave once the white man does aswell.
I think its the opposite, in that he overcompensated, like a new driver constantly hitting the brake.
Oops, yeah I meant 4's gunplay in relation to 5. 4 is better than 5 like how Mount and blade is better than Skyrim.
I really can't tell I would need to see the subject in action to diagnose the problem.
Try being poor and white, cops will treat you like a nigger regardless.
He's shitposting
I wouldn't doubt for a second that Holla Forums is full of lefties that swallow the whole black victimization narrative. So I felt like pointing it out.
I doubt it
Holla Forums is probably 30 percent polack 10% leftypol and the rest are just people who want to play vidya. The leftypol cucks get BTFO'd just by sheer numbers whenever they rear their ugly heads.
Yeah because who plays GTA games to drive around recklessly.
well actually you can drive more recklessly because you can actually lose control of your vehicle causing more interesting things to happen
go ahead try and spin out and lose control in 5 you can't
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its like a cancer that will never go away
GTA V sold over 3x as much as GTA IV, so Rockstar will forever see it as the stronger title
How does this make IVFags feel?
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Im not even American, faggot. And I still want trump to win.
Thats rich.
Only cuck here is you, niggerlover.
or you're some buttmad mudskin
Faggot was banned, don't worry
Look at the first letter of each sentence plus the email :^)
what?
reminder that this guy actually, unironically likes Doom 2016, and he hates Serious Sam
the only time i've ever agreed with him was with half-life 2, and even then all he talked about in that video was why the storyline was shit, not why the actual gameplay was shit
wow just like that he's fucking gone
Love the mods!!!
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Oh, I get it. I mean, I'm not surprised. Does anyone actually like Niggers? Niggers don't even like their own people.
Also, the mods didn't delete the post.
I did.
I'm with you, I've driven massive machinery on ice covered roads in the middle of blizzards with more traction than the vehicles GTA 4 had
GTA 4 the whole time feels like my tires are coated in fucking butter, the closest I would say GTA 4's driving comes to would be Planetside 's same shitty vehicle physics system where you slide 200 fucking meters sideways with even the slightest turn
Then I hop into GTA 5 and cars actually have SOME semblance of proper weight to them again and I can actually do shit like round corners etc even with a keyboard and mouse
So sick and tired of people defending GTA 4's driving, most likely its people who have never been behind the wheel of a vehicle in real life, I absolutely fucking hated it
That's a flimsy argument and you know it.
You want to be able to go fast fast as you want in a GTA game without the game constantly going "lol handling physics" and losing control every minute. Interesting/entertaining crashes can be great but their best left for instances where you fucked up and hit something than simply because you went faster than the game deemed to be sensible
The best argument for this is how much people who defend GTA4's handling bring up how they love mastering said handling. When said mastery involves learning not to drive so recklessly that you lose control in a fucking GTA game you realise there is a problem.
The fuck? I Can do it in a heartbeat, mostly because GTA 5 the cars handle more like real cars and not the fucking butter physics in GTA 4
Don't believe me? Do a hard left then instantly do a hard right, your car will have grip for the left but as soon as the weight swings over you lose the grip when you try to go right
YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW WEIGHT WORKS IN REAL LIFE?
Now play GTA 4 for when you do the hard left you instantly lose all traction and skid into a building instantly
Stopped reading there
So you take hard lefts going fast in a car without losing control? Interesting I'd love to see what kind of supercar you are driving.
their arguments are getting dumber and dumber
I've taken off ramps at 90KMPH in a fucking half ton
Try doing that in GTA 4
Go on
I will say this; GTA Vs driving definitely FELT more realistic in the sense that as the player you got a better feel for the road. Driving in GTA V reminded me of driving my Honda Civic, good tight suspension and road feel
GTA IVs handling was way too floaty and bouncy.
Hell, the physics in general in GTA IV are too floaty
In GTA IV when you crash into a pedestrian they ragdoll around hundreds of feet in the air, its unrealistic. GTA V has much less floaty physics and feels more realistic
Still don't know why IVfags think IV had better physics, they just weren't that realistic
keyword massive machinery
usually heavier more industrial vehicles do better in snow
but you would know that right? you know simple fucking physics.
It wasn't that realistic, but it was more fun.
If you don't value realism thats fine
But GTA V is the more realistic game
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except it isn't
They are both unrealistic
5 is just a stripped down version of 4. People have made mods for 4 that really fine tuned the handling and made it even better. 5 just toned everything down and made cornering easier.
This tbh. One of the reasons I dropped GTA IV a few days after I got it was that the driving was as bad as it was.
In what way?
how is 5 more realistic than 4?
everything is objectively shittier they fucked up euphoria, they ruined the weapons, they ruined the fighting, they ruined the movement, they ruined the driving.
Why didn't they just adopt new good systems instead of taking an older system and stripping it down to retard levels?
NPCs have more realistic health
Physics are less floaty, gravity and momentum are more realistic
players have more realistic abilities
I'm just saying, GTA V is just more realistic than GTA IV. If you don't value realism thats fine
NPCs have more realistic health
I will give you that
I keep forgetting that I heavily modded the shit out of GTA4 to give it a more realistic feel
I still think vanilla 4 shits all over 5 though. Because you can't fix what is broken with 5.
You hipster niggers need to fucking leave
While GTA IV did things GTA V di not, it was still a piece of dissapointing garbage much like V
Tru
This is objectively false
just by running around on foot, using a helicopter, pushing someone to the ground etc. etc. you can tell that gta4 has more weight and momentum to everything
like slowing down time, busting 90 turns at 200 mph with franklin, and becoming nearly invincible with trevor?
It honestly blows my mind. I think IVfags might be brain damaged
Does nobody fucking remember how disappointing IV was when it first game out in 2008? It was a dull and grey piece of shit that had a smaller game world than even its predecessors. Rockstar tried addressing GTA IVs issues in GTA V with a larger world, with more details and dynamic range and we actually have GTA IVfags coming out of the woodwork saying IV is better all of the sudden
there is military base to raid in V now the 4 physics engine was great, doesn't excuse it that it had a big lack of content. however V didn't fix what 4 didn't there still is no respect meter you still can roll out with your crew like you could in SA and there is no fucking jetpack still. we can never have nice things but we can make our 2 shit things into an okay thing which is worth doing nigger faggot
no because everyone who liked it enjoyed it and all the san andreas autists were the ones pissing about no jetpacks, clowncars, and the numbers 69 printed on everything.
This is what I have been saying the whole fucking time.
5 just removed some things and added shittier things.
A saccharine piece of shit with terrible writing, worse gameplay and less depth disguised behind a pretty map isn't that much of an improvement, nigger. This entire thread is filled with mid-tier halfchan arguments.
BUT user IT'S GOT A HUGE DESERT WITH NOTHING IN IT
BUT user IT'S GOT PLANES THAT HANDLES LIKE SHIT
also I shit you not the planes handled better in san andreas than they did in gta5
GTA5 adds stuff
it just adds stuff that totally sucks due to the dumbed down game engine.
BUT LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER THE PHYSICS IN IV ARE, AND YOU CAN CROUCH AND SHIT, ITS NOT NOSTALGIAFAGGING OVER 7th GEN GARBAGE I SWEAR
Thanks for bringing that up aswell
holy shit forgot that you couldn't crouch in fucking gta5 jesus christ what a piece of garbage
ARE
YOU
FUCKING
RETARDED
SON?
I said the heavy machinery I drove on ice handled better than GTA 4's vehicles did
Have you ever DRIVEN in snow? Where the lighter your vehicle is THE BETTER?
Do you have ANY idea now snow WORKS IRL? Where the more pressure you put on it the deeper you sink?
Or when you're on ice the increased pressure causes more of the ice to melt which makes it far harder to stop?
You're out of your fucking mind if you think its easy to stop 14 tons of machinery on ice
cool meme
its like you never even played GTA V
Look at the map
look at the city
you made a dumbass assumption about what I said
then I made one about what you said
also do you think sportscars handle better in snow than trucks real question? if you do then you really are a fucking retard.
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nigger look at the fucking game
There's not "nothing in the desert" there's fucking stunt trails, hiking NPC, and small settlements everywhere even outside of Sunny Shores
see all those roads on the map? year, they're lined with shops and houses too
I've driven an LT1 Camero Z28, two Mustangs and a Porshe in the dead of winter and handled them no problem, along with countless other small vehicles
Now stop being fucking retarded
So those handle better, get more traction and are more reliable than a 4wd truck in the snow?
Yea you are a fucking retard and tried to put words in to peoples mouths to make a point and then lost your shit when I did the same thing so just go fuck yourself.
Holy shit, you are actually that fucking retarded
Go home kid, when you turn 16 and actually get to drive vehicles in snow you'll learn
also anyone else notice that the gta5 fags are all a bunch of emotionally insecure faggots who jump down peoples throats when they disagree?
Just read the thread and look at how the gta5 faggots react to adversity. Just like how they reacted to adversity when the driving system of gta4 challenged their pathetic hand eye coordination.
Seriously you are like those fucking retards I see who drive along in the winter in 4x4's going "I'M INNA 4x4 FUCK SLOWING DOWN ON THE ICEY ROADS I'M INNA 4x4 THEY HANDLE BETTER"
4x4's help you move forwards, they do not, however, help you fucking stop
Fuck off nigger, nice shitpost
Why do you fags even care? Don't you basement dwellers just circle jerk league or dota or some shit?
now you are just being a retard I dont' get stuck in snow but people who drive cars do? wonder why right?
Look at how mad they get
Tell me how 4x4's work then son, go on
I've only worked with machinery that could drive through a building on a whim, please, tell me how they work and handle on ice. I'll wait.
P.S. They still handle better than GTA 4's vehicles do
P.P.S. I'm upset cause you're that fucking retarded, if you would stop being retarded I'd stop being upset
P.P.P.S. You started this with the fucking retarded statement of "Heavy machinery does better in snow"
You try driving 14 tons of machinery in snow, or better yet, mud
Let me know how it fucking goes kid
heavier vehicles are harder to stop. Something you should keep in mind while playing gta4. You know learn about how breaking works so you can play the game.
I would rather drive a large truck through a blizzard than a sports car. You seem to have disagreed with this though.
Now he's changing the subject to Ice because he wants to make a point
you have proven yourself to be a dishonest faggot who won't argue in good faith and this was evident by your first post. I don't want to argue with you I just want everyone else to see how gay gta5 faggots really are.
All I want to know is if there are custom servers fpr multiplayer. Banning modders is pretty shitty.
haha look at this mad faggot
He's madder than hell right now
The fire truly rises with this hotheaded fuck
I'm just over here cool as a cucumber making gta5 faggots look like the true faggots they really are. Look at how they react to adversity. This is why they hate difficult game mechanics it makes them feel stupid and inferior. Instead of trying to master something they just shit their pants.
YOU TALKING A CIVILIAN HALF TON SON OR A DUMP TRUCK HAULING A FULL BED OF SNOW?
No shit I'd rather be in a 4x4 half ton in winter, I wouldn't however want to be in a fucking semi or tandem
Jesus christ, go read a book
we were talking about snow you retard
You see, there was this really nice thing that all cars in GTAIV had that gave you lots of control. I think it was called a handbrake or something like that.
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also at least the different sports cars all had their unique handling quirks
In gta5 everything feels so sterilized it's just "This car is faster than this car which is faster than this car"
it's gay just like gta5 faggots
Oh you best believe he mad
this is making me laugh to be honest. all this arguing over driving physics.
he's right about GTA IV's driving being absolute dogshit though. not defending V's driving either though.
It's a matter of personal taste for me. Even if you don't like 4 you have to admit that 5 is just 4, but stripped down and easier. There is no other way to view it.
notice what I keep getting at is that they just like easier game mechanics and refuse to admit it. This is the problem with these people and this is why I had to dedicate my saturday afternoon to shitty threads.
GUYS GTA 5 THE DRIVING IS BULLSHIT YOU CAN'T SPIN A VEHICLE OUT NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY
Thread is full of people who have no idea what they're talking about
that's spinning out? really? wow LMAO
You want a 360 spin out? Its fucking easy
guy was going like 90mph took a hard left then a hard right and did a quick 90 degree skid. Is that your definition of good physics?
I didn't say it was good
I said its better than GTA 4's butter covered wheels
do it without the handbrake
this guy even used the handbrake to get this 90 degree quick turn done
That was without the handbrake
I'm the guy who made the video
He hit his hand brake fam, he was doing a drift
GTAV has some good parody brands that help develop its less-than-serious world, doesn't make sense to replace them with real shit. Having a giant billboard with the Taco Bell logo is just immersion breaking
It's not better. It's exactly the same but easier. Now imagine what would happen to me If I were on the highway just going 60 mph and cranked the wheel. It would look more like gta4 than gta5. Even though in Gta4 it's actually really really shitty and not even close to how much you would spin out in real life.
note: i'm also laughing at you being retarded enough to think that mastering bad driving mechanics makes you superior to people who don't want to have to do so in order to even be able to play.
the handbrake in IV is just as ineffective as in any other game i've ever played. i don't mind having to work to git gud if it's not a fucking mess in the first place
yup, although trying redux right now. It's not so bad
ok I'm not taking that much pride in being good at it. more so just trying to explain to these people that their system is objectively worse look at them shit their pants. I even got one retard trying to make handling videos and failing
I'm just trying redux out. that's all.
are you being sarcastic?
I'm just having fun with these guys to get them riled up so they keep making more butthurt gold.
Why the fuck would anyone pay money for a game that advertises to you like this? They ruined the mod by putting real advertisements.
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Are you going for the highscore again (215)?
so when was i pretending to be retarded? I was just making fun of you and your whole retarded gta5 supremacist crew and you guys are the ones who should be saying "I was just pretending to be retarded"
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read the tone of the entire thread
Never once did I pretend to be retarded but I did set bait numerous times and you guys responded by shitting your collective pants, making handling videos, and reeeing through your computer screen at me.
I miss him.
He's still around, I know because I verified it.
When will you stop the Overwatch hotpocketering you filthy kike?
even if he had a cyclical backing him up he still was a legend
Does your dad work for Jim?
I AM JIM
Go back to >>>Holla Forums faggot
everyone in this thread is a cancerous faggot and now I'm a cancerous faggot too for posting here
Vice City best gta
>Not You're right
This GTA driving talk made me curious. I've played SA. a shit ton (20k hours) and at first I liked the nrg. Over time I started to prefer the PCJ and Sanchez. They felt better for handling. I have no idea how bike handling is done on 4 or 5 though.
Traction has to do with your tires, not the weight of the vehicle.
t. somebody who's actually driven on snowy roads
Damn I missed out on the fun, are you still ready to break records?
Oh you had me for a second there you nigger. Well played.
Wew.
Please tell me your interpretation of what a spoiler does.
but it's a mod
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It isn't realistic at all, the over the top physics made it more fun because you had to think carefully about turns and crashes.
Looks fun but I doubt this shit will run on my 760. I'll try it out but I don't expect much.
Just wanted to show that the physics in GTA IV are actually not butter tires, but actually stick to the road quite well. The problem you're thinking of is inertia, as a lot of cars in IV exhibit more inertial forces on the car than in GTA V and so weight transfer plays a whole lot more in IV especially with every car having very soft suspensions.
lmao'ing at you
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They do it for free
get the fuck out of this website and my hobby
Any of you got any gameplay webms of this mod in action?
Since when did realism = good?
And I don't think the health or AI were realistic at all, if you go up to a random person and punch them in the face they won't instantly die, and if you shoot a trained police officer twice in the leg he won't either. Police also don't pull their guns on you for walking by them in real life or instantly track you down when you execute some dude in the middle of the desert because a rattlesnake witnessed the crime and reported it somehow.
i think he's being retarded on purpose user
Good goyim!
Some autist already beat him, with trips.
it had my interest until real life adverts
what a gay
Who was he? What was his motivation?
You must have replied to the wrong person because I was pointing out the parts about GTA V's gameplay that I hated
He's the same guy who spams undertale threads with a certain prog-rock band.
What the fuck kind of retarded combination is that?
If this is a semi serious question it's because Toby was the HR representative and was the only one with the authority to tell Micheal when he was beeing to inappropriate in the office, which is something that Micheal highly values.
sorry but that's an outdated record
i broke (300)
I'd take Taco Bell over "Pisswasser" anyday. Their satirical brands verge into the farcical, and that breaks the immersion even more for me. I like my GTA humor tongue-in-cheek, not ass-in-face.
how the fuck do I get GTAIV to run via steam?
Whether or not someone think GTA 4 driving and gameplay is better/worse than GTA 5 is actually a really good litmus test to see how shit they are at video games
GTA 4 gameplay is objectively superior, if you think otherwise, git gud
What if I recognize the objective superiority of IV but prefer the arcade-y handling of V for enjoyment purposes?
What was the thread about and how many replies did it get in total?
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it was the last undertale general (pic related)
here's an archive of it, going all the way up to (322)
archive.is
iirc there were like 10 posts more (i stopped at 325 tho) but i didnt get to archive them
Amen
I've driven a 65 Parisienne Custom Sport with better suspension and handling
And that's a two fucking ton car
whats the helo physics like? is it even close to sim or is it still the same arcadey shit where it springs back to hover position as soon as you release the controls?
car suspension is exaggerated in GTA4 (and 5), and the old jalopies (like in that video) are the most exaggerated, because shot old suspensions crap out. it's movie realism.
Why weren't you sageing in it?
I don't like view ads in a game I payed for. They better give me a discount or come up with better pretend companies. I'm not going to chose between to evils.
it was already bumplocked
in which objects?
Ah I misread where my scroll bar was and thought mark's post was near the end
There's probably a checkbox in the installer to not have those ads displayed, anyways.
You are saying things that are not fucking true
Have you ever seen a car with blown suspension?
They handle like a stiff brick with no fucking absorption of the road, not like a fucking boat on stilts
Blown suspension on an old car the fucking thing sits low to the ground and doesn't rock like that
Seriously, has ANYBODY here ever been in a vehicle other than me?
Why did you quote the part of his argument that actually is true and then talk about the parts of his argument that weren't?
I'm not disagreeing, just asking. "Movie Realism" is the only thing the guy got right as far as I can tell.
I've never seen a movie where cars act like he's talking about
To me it just sounds like he's making excuses for GTA 4's terrible driving physics
There's a reason GTA 5 did away with it, nobody liked it and it was terrible
Blues Brothers. The car chase to which all other car chases set their standards.
(At least I remember the big wide skiddy turns, the various crashes, etc.)
NO ONLY YOU HAVE DRIVEN A CAR I BOW TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
have you ever been in an old car?
How old? I had a '97 Buick Lesabre which was built like a boat, but isn't exactly old. That thing handled like a tank. Loved it though.
Also I think I should dip out of this one 'cause I haven't played IV literally since it came out.
If someone can point me in the right direction to get my Steam version working though that would be lovely. I tried my best Google-Fu a while ago and nothing helped.
GTA5 did away with it because they stopped paying for their licensed physics solution and made a shitty in-house replacement.
I don't love the GTA4 driving, I played with a driving mod, but it was intentional game design to make the driving interesting. GTA5 is not interesting or realistic, so how the fuck is that an improvement? The GTA3 titles have better driving, GTA5 feels like one of those old Hot Wheels licensed racing games or other shovelware garbage.
No idea what you're talking about, the cars in that movie handle fucking beautifully
WOW LOOK AT THOSE CAR TURNS/STOPS AT HIGH SPEED WHERE THE VEHICLE DOESN'T ACT LIKE A FUCKING UNICYCLE EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BLOWN SHOCKS
Seriously, admit it already, GTA 4's car physics were shit
I drove a 65 Parisienne Custom Sport for 9 years, handled far better than even the best sport cars in GTA 4
Yeah they feel like a fucking tank, not like a bear balancing on a ball
I got no idea where all these people get the idea that GTA 4's driving is realistic in any way
Hell, you want car suspension done right? Play Next Car Game Wreckfest
Hell fucking DRIVER had the physics done better than GTA 4 did
MAN LOOK AT THESE CARS WITH BLOWN SUSPENSION, SHITTY SPRINGS AND TERRIBLE LINKAGES HANDLE JUST LIKE GTA 4 DOES
OH WAIT, THEY DON'T, THEY HANDLE INFINITELY FUCKING BETTER
Was GTA IV a good physics engine with a shitty driving engine tacked on?
Was GTA V a good machinima engine with an infant-suitable driving engine tacked on?
Was Saints Row 2 better?
GTA 4 just had fucking terrible driving physics applied to the cars, again I don't know why they gave cars no weight, rolling around side to side like boats and put butter on all the tires
I mean shit, these guys have better traction at high speed on a demolition derby dirt track and they're going 40-50mph
You're a dumbarse.
Boats still have heaps of weight, it's just all located at the aft. (where the big metal bit is, the combustion engine)
They don't roll around side to side, they rock if they're going slow, but otherwise are easier to control than cars due to more surface area on the water compared to tires on the road.
oar-powered inflatable rafts rock side to side a bit, but even then, there is a limit.
Even after linking videos of junkers with better handling than GTA 4's vehicles you still defend it
Seriously, admit you're wrong and move on
I'm not defending it, Rockstar is a shit company and they couldn't make a driving system fun to play since before GTA IV was released. I'm trying to point out your lack of nautical knowledge. Go the beach/river, landlubber.
I've driven boats as well, boats don't rock, they ROLL if you push them too hard
The only thing I've not driven is sports 4x4's like a rally car, monster trucks or dragsters, driven about everything else at least once or twice
Then you haven't been playing around with any fun boats.
Remember, if the hull is designed for a 150HP engine, that means you must fit a 200HP engine or; you're a pussy and/or a Miami drug runner who has already fitted a 250HP engine