Newfag acclimation

It seems we have an influx of liberals. Why not have a thread to introduce them to Holla Forums and get them off the fence?

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Newfag anarcho-transhumanist here. What's some good theory to read?

they should go to >>>/freedu/

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Communism =/= Stalinism
Communism =/= Socialism

Aside from a few tankies, we don't like big authoritarian centralized governments. We're actually left wing libertarians here.

Identity politics aren't really a thing here, as we believe prejudice comes from economic hardship, sour grapes and scapegoating. When glorious communism is achieved, othering people based on race, gender, orientation, etc won't be a thing.

However, we still embrace individualism, though through cooperation, not competition. What can you bring to the table that's interesting and insightful? What can you create that brings usefulness or entertainment to your fellow man?

We're very open to all sorts of people here, as long as you don't make (x) group of oppressed people out to be worth more than (y) group. We are all oppressed by capitalism, even the rich are chained to it, but when it is destroyed and we enter into a moneyless paradise where nothing is done from competition for the sake of nothing but profit, we will all be free.

The rich might still go to gulag though. They had all the power and didn't use it for anyone but themselves.

good post comrade

How would you achieve communism when people feel more of a connection with their race or their country than with the workers of the world?

Read these if you haven't. They'll give you a basis for understanding other peoples ideas and give you a general start in theory.

meant for

You wouldn't, hence the need to raise class conciousness

so how would you get black workers to unite with blue collar whites, who they think are racist? How would you raise class consciousness to overshadow that?

People dont feel that way, you are stupid and spooked

leftypol's too entrenched in brocialism to answer you.

Comrade do you have anything good by Bakunin. I am bit of socialist libertarian but I do not have the theoretical base to justify this belief.
I read that Bakunin was one of the major opponents to Marx at a socialist international, so I assume reading something from him would be smart after finishing The communist manifesto and Kropotkin

Watch Kapitalism 101 my liberal comrades. It's a non-partisan explanation of Marxism. Very simple, easy and entertaining to watch. It can be found on YouTube.

For no other reason watch it so you can even more smugly shout down socialist and communists.

the youtube channel? You are gonna have to link that shit

We'd tell them to read Bordiga m8

kapitalism101.wordpress.com/

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so you're going to solve it with platitudes?

it's an example of one argument. the other is that they need the white working class to win elections. if they don't embrace class politics there will be no one to represent them on the national stage.

right, but it seems like the black, the white working class, and the Hispanic communities form different proletarian groups.

Communism will arise out of individuals acting in their rational self-interest once the material conditions of society change to make capitalism no longer viable. You don't need any class consciousness. People will either figure it out themselves or they'll die. The survivors will end up living under communism.

yes because they've been encouraged to do so by the liberals, conservatives, the media, and the marketing teams of big corporations.

Has there been a time when things have been different?


what makes you think that communism would come out of the collapse of the capitalist system rather than something more reactionary?

Shay's Rebellion

youtube.com/user/brendanmcooney

This is the YouTube channel where you'll be able to find the Kapitalism 101 videos. Great for Beginners to Marxism and why leftypol is against capitalism.

Like what? How is any kind of reactionary society compatible with full automation?

So is your dream a communist society where the machines liberate themselves from human exploitation? Full automation is not happening anytime soon, if at all… especially if the whole capitalist system collapses.

No. How could you possibly come to that conclusion from what I wrote?

I'm thinking next 50-100 years. We will see widespread unemployment in that time. Full automation is likely to happen within 200 years. If you think this isn't "soon", you are the reason things like global warming are problems.

Capitalism isn't going to collapse without significantly more automation.

I came to that conclusion because you don't know what sarcasm is.


I think you're more to see a collapse of the system due to a population boom than due to full automation.

more likely to see*

I will bet that the disintegration of the dialectic between owner and worker will destroy it first. Work just does not pay.

You don't think capitalists understand the negative impacts of full automation? They aren't stupid.

On the other hand, the third world countries which are/will experience a population boom aren't capable of feeding all of those excess people, there isn't enough room.

How exactly are the rich oppressed by capitalism?

please kill yourself

They left?