Fallout 2

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This. Had OP actually played Fallout 1 he would know the Dweller gets exiled from the Vault so he grabbed a few relatively unpozzed tribal chicks for a Harem and bred himself a new village, not giving a shit about teaching these freaks anything because he was to busy impregnating everything in sight.

The Vault Dweller knew how to live the life.

No, some of them were other v13 dwellers who followed him.
And even if there were no other educated people it still would not explain how a piss poor dying village managed to build a huge temple that server no practical purpose.

Post apocalypse settings are always shit.

So you have something in common, fgt.

Ja.

I could/can believe the tribalism and shamanism, because drugs n stuff but the temple breaks the whole image.

Not even Mad Max was good. Does this statement infuriate you?

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lmoa

It could've been some pre war building. A theme park? As far as I remember they never say they built it

I think NV is the best of the series. It elevates the series in player choice, and continues the themes of the previous games leading them to their natural conclusions.

The NCR turns into this bloated oligarchy superpower that now is struggling against a new Superpower that has sprung up against them. It continues on the theme of how people are all holding onto the past in their own ways and not actually moving forward, House arguably is the only one that moves forward because he detests the Old World and doesn't consider it's loss anything of worth. The Brotherhood also get their just desserts, you can't be a bunch of techno-raiders and expect people not to inevitably fight back against you. Super Mutants are also long forgotten with only a few remaining and either integrating or finding themselves a place to call home. They're a good representation of relics from a age that people have quickly forgotten.

New Vegas is a fitting finale for the Core Region. If the rumors that Obsidian would make the next Fallout and set it in New Orleans then it makes sense, the diversity of endings to NV is best left up to the player to decide on who won the Mojave. There's no real "Good" or "Bad" endings to NV which is my favourite thing about it compared to the other games which all have some form of a moral "good" outcome that most players will go for, and that the developers recognise over the "bad" ones.

It's fine, you're just wrong.

You're right the true best in the series is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel

Avellone posted on RPGCODEX?

Too bad the gameplay is shit. The writing is still below FO1. FO3 engine is obviously better suited for cityscape setting than vast wasteland setting, that's why the game is a piece of shit full of invisible walls and crashes. If I want good writing, I'd play FO1.

Every fallout game

He brought other vault dwellers with him.

FO2 and 4 have decent mechanics.

Except nv's shit gameplay is magnified by its terrible engine.

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Checking those digits of Vault 444!

Yeah because RNG is so good that literally nothing but Luck matters.

???

There are a lot of coulds and maybes but in the end the bigger pictures needs A LOT of suspense of disbelieve to work.

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Better shooting, better AI, and more polished engine that's able to handle a large singular area at once. Of course it's shit at other aspects, but technically it's better than NV.

FO2 has better framerate, less bugs, better graphics, and no time limit.

It is. Has better themes rather than trying to create a mustard rice of green men and Jewclave trying to reclaim murica. Also more player choice in endings, and quests.

I agree fellow Gamer

Avellone is a good quest and dialogue writer, bbut I don't like it when he gets into wacky shits like this.

Did you know Bethesda declared Fallout:BoS non-canon but then ripped off their own Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 3&4 from it?

Legion is whacky at first but it makes a lot of sense. To the Legionnaires they don't actually know they're larping as the Roman Empire and think that Caesar literally is the Son of Mars. You have to remember they're all just tribals merged into one big tribe.

When you live in a cave, all tales by educated people will be shadows on a wall. I mean, sure, even if they could repeat

Read up on astronomy, stars and such. Then look at the night sky when you see it in all her glory (no lights in 30km). The vault dwellers who got out experienced a reneissance of spirituality. They probably invented all kinds of shit during their time in the closed space.

I mean, just look at Tumblr with their six gorillon sex-genders and not-genders, or Holla Forums and Kek, meme magic… Vaults are essentially machines to make everybody crazy. Isolation chambers in jails, leave a guy there for a month. He won't be sane. Have multiple generations grow up in one…

..the empty stale facts like robots, they couldn't understand it since they didn't have the adequate equipment for it.

Fuck off parasite.

Hardly. Considering that NV is trying to be an RPG first and foremost, it's subpar shooting is more forgiving, especially compared to 4 which is primarily an action game with absolutely mediocre shooting mechanics.
I haven't noticed any improvements from FO3, NV, to FO4 AI - they're all completely basic. But again, considering NV tries to focus on RPG mechanics rather than action mechanics, the specific action-interactions with enemies is less important than enemy design and variety to test player builds.
Literally the same engine. If you're talking about bugs, NV's buginess is due to a rushed development cycle.

Agree

F:NV is best in the series

You can explain everything, but having barelegged roman soldiers prancing around a post apocalyptic wasteland still sounds silly. I guess it's consistent to Fallout's "a kind of wacky" tradition of lore writing at least.

FPS Fallout is an ARPG series, therefore the action aspect is just as important as the RPG aspect. I know that FO4 was lame at being an RPG, but that's a bad justification. I'm solely talking about the technical aspects here.

FO4's enemies can actually find cover and do a little flanking. They also move around and react to damage better. VATS doesn't become an absolute necessity anymore.

Same framework and codes, but it's a heavily modified engine.

NV tries to approach FO2 in regards to its integrity, whhich in term did not quite reach FO1 in its integrity.

If you believe NV "elevates" the series, that only means your first FO was 3.

Do you consider TES pre-oblivion to be an ARPG series as well?

It's at least the second best after Fallout 1. Fallout 2 has to many dude memes lmao for my liking.

Yes. Real time combat with FPS controls, albeit heavily abstracted in the previous titles.

It's also a lot harder to level up your skills in FO2 for whatever stupid reason.

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You can dodge and aim arrows and spells in all elder scrolls. The speed, jump, and levitate skills can be used to avoid attacks, run away from battles, or perform a hit and run playstyle. The older elder scrolls might be heavily abstracted due to technological limitations, but these dodging and running mechanics already existed. Do you forget that you have to swing swords by moving your mouse in Arena and Daggerfall, and how Morrowind allows you to make directional swinging?

They were Swedish.

If you're talking about christianity and buddhism and such, they're not pseudoscientific, they transcend science. Catholicism has established many councils and scholasticism to study their doctrine, and they deal with metaphysical questions regarding the root of all reasons and existence that can't be answered by observable facts. It's not about evil spirit tribal bullshit.

*tips*

No
No
No
Also no!

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True, they even can't into cannibalism!

Nope. Just lame writing, in the same league of shit that forced that stupid "temple of trials" forced sequence.
Actually that "unga bunga we tribal we village we shaman unga bunga" was annoying as fuck and break a lot of the immersion.

To be honest the original is pretty much during the apocalypse, meaning from 2 and on its technically post-apocalypse. Its just that its a pretty weak apocalypse.

You people do realize Mad Max is a documentary on Australia?

My game shat itself when walking around hub.

The game had shitload of bugs before 1.2 patch.

Towns in FO2 looks less bland than in FO1.

The only time limit in FO2 is 13 years, which is tied to the engine due to RAM limitations of 90's computers.

Theo just found lost knowledge and Magic, they actually evolved you scientificist dumb modern subhuman.

If you're talking about modern pcs then stop using potato for CPU. If you're talking about when FOs came out then FO2 San Fran, New Reno, Vault City did the same.
Both Fallout did have shitloads of patches before and after official patches. Now they don't because fanfixes.
Towns being theme parks isn't a pro.
So there is time limit. You might say it doesn't count because 13 years is a long time but I can say if you can't find the water chip in time you have brain problems so it doesn't count.

Bullshit. Any religion is tribalistic in nature. Even Christianity.

So are you a "It's ALL metaphorical and allegorical!" faggot, or a "MY spirits are real!" faggot? Angels, demons, the Holy Spirit, Mara, karma, all of it is "evil spirit tribal bullshit". You don't even have to go into the other religions to get dirt to throw all over your nonsense post.

The same way how rhodesia became zimbabwe

I don't think Arroyo drove out crackers.

you sound like an assblasted christfag

you should be surprised it didnt turn out worse

Pffff.

So, it's just me?

Are you autistic? The hub was huge but bland as hell.

But there are a lot of shit happening between leaving the vault and obtaining waterchip. I want to level up a bit. Even after that, there's a mutant raid.

My point is It's not caused by the lack of knowledge, but by wretchedness of life and hollowness of observable knowledge. In the other hand, Arroyo villagers seemed to have lost all their culture and knowledge.

That depends on your criteria. You can fuck up the shit of virtually the entire wasteland and leave a trail of death and misery in your wake; the game just doesn't judge you for it.

Apparently we still can't embed timestamped videos, so here's a link instead. I'd say this certainly counts as a "bad end".
youtube.com/watch?v=YdnURnfQ5Yk&t=6m26s

Kek.

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user,please

Except for, you know, being THE HUB, housing all the caravans and water merchans and Harold and your very first deathclaw and Decker
Which can be delayed or turned off.

It looks bland. The layout, the interior, the buildings, are all bland looking. Compared to New Reno or even Den, they're bland.

I don't know this.

What a joke. Killing everything because luel so evil is not the worst ending. NCR "brutally" establishes dominance? Don't make me laugh.

This is the real worst ending:

But of course Anarchists, Romeaboos, and Lolbergturdians have to constantly repeat "muh ebil en cee arr" to justify their awful ending choices.

Say whatever you want but they are the ones brining "peace" and "stability" to the wasteland

Avellone wasn't the main writer for New Vegas, though. John Gonzalez was, followed by Josh Sawyer iirc. Avellone did stuff like Dead Money and Lonesome Road (if I remember correctly).

A true Avellone-lead game could be Alpha Protocol.

One thing that sucks is that most factions treat you like shit after you've established their dominance for them over New Vegas.

I think House is the only one that doesn't treat you like shit after you win New Vegas for him.

I meant cut the cancer from any of the two factions.

It's what the ending slides say.

fallout.gamepedia.com/Fallout:_New_Vegas_endings

Legion cucked up the same way NCR cucked up by overextending. You can talk Lanius down at the end by saying this. Sure the one guy from arizona at the fort says that his caravans are safe, but of course he operates around the core territories. Legionfags really have a love affair with this guy because he gives the sole reason (albeit very tenuous) to go legion that isn't "I wanna RP a psychotic" or "I wanna minmax to get the very worst ending possible".

i didnt know this could happen
how do i achieve this outcome?

Isn't that wrong though? Why plural?

It's more like the white man entering africa and then they still act like niggers despite his teachings.

The Vault Dweller left the vault alone in the game. Show me where it says he brought others.

How does our society still battle with pseudointellectual (((communism))) and (((atheism))) bullshit?

At least you weren't the first reply.

they were just starving because of a draught, also if you compare them to other tribes, they are pretty civilized (see the white legs)

The intro to Fallout 2 if I remember correctly

Vault Dweller memoirs.

^this

if you are dsigned for that, should you battle aganist is?

Imagine how much inbreeding that would imply.
Christ it's hard to imagine how the Chosen One was able to defeat the enclave.

im talking out of my ass here but i dont think consistent and serious abnormalities happen until you get a few generations in. The risk is always higher but some normal people would be born at least in the beginning.
besides that though im pretty sure they have contact with other tribes

Luckily enough it is just second generation by the time so that's probably not a problem yet. Arroyo is still fucked in many other ways thanks to sticking with VDs "fuck this gay earth we isolationists now". You have these dudes going around in tents with equivalent of a masters degrees (of the wastelands at least), but you can't make them cross a fucking bridge even when fucking Enclave comes knocking.

I blame dev time wasted on fucking Temple of Trials and thousands of one liners from movies instead of fleshing out thre tribe. Or at least why they isolated themselves to the point of self-destruction. But at least they had Arroyo developed to a proper city with rest of Vault 13.

Notice how VD knows jackshit about engineering and science to build homes since fuckers are living in tents.

Nah, 1, 2 and Tactics are a little rough around the edges but they work fine with basic turn-based combat. From 3 onward they're all irredeemable consolised shit that needs dozens of mods to be even playable.

Lel fuck user I never put that together before

yeah, lots of proxies used by a single troll with no life

Do you think smart people can't go crazy?

At least the Chinese ones tell me how much fun hell is

interplay forced black isle to make a tutorial section user
an early form of publishers hindering creativity for the goal of broad accessibility and marketability

because people dont want to believe they are just star dust?

FO4 > FONV > FO3 > FO:TACTICS > FO2 > FO:BOS > FO1

I don't get why Holla Forumstards always get such a hardon for old-ass games that are clearly overshadowed by newer ones in terms of quality.

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It's really the only one that should be considered an actual FPS. Combat's fluid, dynamic, and it's not just plain retarded like the others.
Story's mediocre, but the gameplay is more important.

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How about presenting an actual argument instead of le arrow and reaction pic maymay?

Until then, my tastes > your shit tastes

Religions give a reason to why humans exist and why they're unlike any creature on earth. Without superstitions, adult humans with a remotely rational thought would rather kill themselves than live in this miserably designed world for a few decades. Animals have zero grasp of spirituality, rationality, and transcendence, therefore a finite and painful world is sufficient to satisfy their shallow needs.

Cuckticks is a lame xcom wannabe.

Fine, here's an argument on the same level as yours.
Combat's shit and boring, filled weapons have no kick and enemies are bullet sponges.

Boi, you do know you can customize them as much as you want until they have kick?
The point of having enemies being as hard is to get you to get good and upgrade your shit.
Fucking learn how games work.
If combat's shit and boring, then the other games must be a real fuckin drag to play through.

Boi, shotguns shouldn't need to be customized to have a kick.

thats a poor direction to take that argument user, considering fo3 and new vegas
the bigger problem is thinking fallout is supposed to be an fps

see

Besides why are you talking to me about them? Do I hold fo3 and nv in some high regard?

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It's an RPG where you level up your char and gear, you tard.

Funny you should say that

What, it can't be a good FPS and RPG at the same time?

Kill yourself.

Since it's good at nothing at all, hardly.

being good at one excludes being good at the other by default

I think you have shit tastes

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So that's it, that's all you got?
You underage fo4 babbies are so fucking lightweight.