Print these out, give them to normies, let people know how much they are being robbed, they need the big numbers broken down to the micro scale of how it personally effects them.
To the average normie there is no difference between 100 million and 1 billion both are unfathomable numbers. But the difference between 100 and 1000 is something they can easily understand, they can visualize what they would do with the money.
That money could have paid off all their current bills, that money could have bought a car, that money could have been a school payment, that money could have paid off medical debt, that money could be rent, or retirement, that money could have been a vacation or a safety net. But instead the government decided to spend your money on more crime and devestation, a lower quality of life, worse schools, terrorism and evil.
let them imagine how the financial hardships they find themselves in could be lessened by having that extra $1000 a year. Let the anger build when they realize that 1000 dollars was the difference between keeping or losing their homes. let them imagine how their kids would be well fed if they had that extra money to put food on the table and in the fridge.
I like you idea but you have to remember, half of American's are too fucking stupid to pay their bills. Making the graphic in a bill format is not easily read. You have to dumb it down to nice bright colors in a smooth infographic design. If I find one I'll post it as an example.
David Ward
Bump for interest.
We need a meme that shows an illegal alien reaching into an American's wallet and stealing $1071 dollars then coming back a year later to steal that much again.
Zachary Morales
im all for any ideas that expose the magic number which is hidden from the average joe when they sap it out of your paycheck. The total number is probably a bit over 1100 like bing claims.
Henry Morales
Im all for any idea that we can use to spread the magic number around to the general public. I was just doing a bing search and bing claims the number is a bit over 1100 with a link to a study, so that might be a bit more accurate number
Chase Parker
I really appreciate the details you put in Democratic party pays nothing was good, but this is too high-brow for your typical normalfag to understand. It's an excellent concept though, let people see how much of their taxes pay for beaner invaders.
Jonathan Johnson
Great meme OP, shared it on goybook and minds. You should do one for niggers and itemize all the gibs they take.
Christopher Brooks
This has a legendary level of potential, especially if sent out by physical mail.
I could imagine Trump using the difference of this cost as a way of campaigning in 3 years time - the "Democratic Party Relief" line being replaced by a "Trump relocation relief" line describing how much this has gone down.
Daniel Davis
OP, post the template. We customize, print and mail.
Alexander Barnes
Don't let this get slid, c'mon lads
Jordan Evans
Oh shit son, thats next next level memetics
Luke Gonzalez
bump
Kevin White
bump
Jace Evans
This!
I'll run a mail merge with a database of Virginia voters and mail tons of these
Jaxson Rogers
Make it simpler:
Every year over $1k is stolen from you in order to give free housing and welfare programs to illegal aliens instead of put towards your grocery and gas budget or child's college tuition fund. Here's your invoice remember to pay up.
Followed by the bill infographic.
Jayden Turner
A good concept but a bit hard to grasp immediately. I feel like this has some potential for lulz.
In the mean time, fuckin saved.
Logan Green
Why not just make it simple, something like:
"Every year over one-thousand dollars is stolen from YOU and over 300 million other Americans" "Stop illegal immigration, stop paying for illegals, stop being stolen from"
then list the source at the bottom with a hashtag or something
Mason Bailey
And you'll be arrested and imprisoned for 25 years for mail fraud and whatever the technical term for mail-based false premises extortion is. YOU FUCKING FAGGOT FBI SHILLS.
If you're going to mail it, not only should you remove (replace) ALL of the extraneous shit on the page (telephone numbers that mean nothing, symbols and codes that are meaningless, etc.), you'll have to include text EXPLAINING what this shit even is saying. To be even REMOTELY legal, you'll have to put "THIS IS NOT A BILL" on it, but you'll want to say "THIS IS NOT A BILL… UNLESS YOU LET IT BECOME ONE." That will get people's attention. Have any of you even fucking seen mail before? What am I saying; it doesn't matter. You're FBI spooks.
Julian Hill
Isn't the money saved on prices resulting from cheap labor minimal as well? Can we get some numbers on that while also highlighting how it drives down everyone elses wage?
Chase Bennett
I have a writeup on the total cost of illegal immigration. Its data might help.
Most Americans underestimate how much illegal aliens cost us each year. Looking at the Heritage Foundation study, you will find that the average illegal household pays about $10,334 annually in taxes. The disparity lies in the fact that the average illegal household receives around $24,721 in government benefits (this includes direct benefits, means-tested benefits, education benefits, population-based services, interest and other spending, and pure public goods expenditures) annually. For comparison, the average households with college-educated heads received $24,839 in government benefits while paying $54,089 in taxes. Now, looking at these figures, we can conclude that the average household of illegals costs taxpayers $14,387 per annum. The Heritage Foundation estimates that there are 3,444,955 households of illegals in the US, containing “no more than” 12,708,875 illegal immigrants. This estimate is flawed, however, because it is based off of a census study conducted in the year 2001. It’s strange how immigrants flood into our country and hop the border in droves, yet the amount of illegal immigrants has stayed roughly the same… A more apt estimate would be the one conducted by Ann Coulter in her book Adios, America! in which she cites a study by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists Barlett and Steele that estimates an average of 3 million illegal aliens are coming in yearly–enough to fill 22,000 Boeing 737-700 airliners. Coulter also cites a study Fred Elbel done in 2007 that estimates there were 20 million illegal immigrants residing in the US in 2005. Taking these new figures, we can calculate that there are close to 50 million illegal immigrants currently in the US. However, since I understand these studies are just estimates; I will use a more conservative estimate of 35 million. This new number of illegals is close to 3.5x the Heritage Foundation’s estimate, so we arrive at 12,057,343 households of illegals. AII of these households are costing US taxpayers $14,387 per annum. Multiply these two numbers and you get the cost of illegal immigration to the US: $173,468,986,547.
Camden Ramirez
The US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) contractor, the US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) completed 651 of nearly 652 miles of fencing mandated by Congress in 2005, which was a part of the DHS’ Secure Border Initiative (SBI). The price per mile (PPM) ranged from $400,000 to $15.1 million, for an average of $3.9 million PPM. The USA has close to 2,000 miles bordering Mexico and other areas illegal aliens typically trek though. Assuming the best option is the option for $15 million PPM, it would cost taxpayers around $30 billion to build a comprehensive wall. The price to build a wall that would last a lifetime is less than 17% of the yearly cost of illegal immigration. The choice is extremely clear. The areas mentioned are not the only areas in which we would save. If we decided to deport all illegal aliens, we would save the $173 billion that is spent yearly on the illegal aliens. This would allow us to increase the border patrols budget by $15 billion–a more than 100% increase–$10 billion towards defense spending, $50 billion towards paying back the national deficit (or $60 billion; whatever), all while cutting taxes by 2.5% across the board. In addition, close to 29.3 million jobs would be open. This number comes from multiplying the amount of illegal aliens by 89% (the amount over the age of 18), and then multiplying that number by 94.5% (accounting for just Obama’s fake unemployment rate in May 2015). With the amount of job openings caused by deportation, everyone drawing unemployment in the US would be able to find a job. And there would be close to 21 million jobs left, which would allow for an extraordinary amount of economic growth and would cause a massive surge in the Labor Force Participation Rate, which is seemingly lacking. When US citizens fill those jobs, the government will see a huge leap in tax revenue. The average US citizen pays close to 30% in taxes on their average $44,888 salary. The average citizen pays approximately $13,466 in taxes per annum to the government. Multiplying this by 31.3 million (the amount of jobs that now pay income tax to the US government) gives us $421.5 billion. Allocating these funds could give us $50 billion for infrastructure repair, $10 billion for education, $15 billion for defense spending (or, again, no more than we’re spending now at all), $150 billion to pay back the national debt, and would allow us to lower taxes again, this time 5% across the board. Freeing up all these jobs would allow us to completely cut all unemployment benefits, which would discontinue FUTA (6%) as well as SUTA (5.82%) taxes on business, while saving taxpayers 108.5 billion USD annually. 10 billion of these newfound funds could go to paying back the national deficit, all while cutting taxes yet again, another 2.5% across the board. In conclusion, building a border wall and deporting all illegal immigrants would allow us to spend per annum: $15 billion on border patrol, $25 billion in defense spending, $50 billion for infrastructure repair, $10 billion for education, and $210 billion towards paying back the national deficit–in addition to their current budgets–while cutting taxes nearly 12% on business, and 10% for citizens.
Fuck off cuck. If my OPSEC isn't good enough to mail letters then I have no reason to be here
Dylan Jenkins
There's not much data on it, most of it shows that immigrants don't drive down wages. There are papers that show that it does affect the wages of unskilled workers in the U.S.
OP here, working on a new mockup or two of the bill, having a hard time trying to source total cost by year of all money spent on illegals rolled into one number.
Anybody have sources on it in a form that I can easily graph? Either the total number minus taxes paid or just a gross total will work
Ex: 2017: $xxxB 2016: $yyyB
Maybe back to 2007 (or futher if you have the numbers). I saw a bar graph of cost over time once but ill be damned if its not hard to find when i need it.
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Bentley Price
well, you got someone's attention op. I like your idea so full steam ahead I say. Instead of MR/MRS Sample make it John/Jane Doe. For the address maybe 1776 Americana Ave, Springfield(or some other common american city).
You could also add a second page with breakdown of costs, an itemization page. For what you're trying to get accros I don't think it needs to be simplified into a single box with bars and bright colors for the simpletons. Maybe change the text of Total Legal Resident Priveleges Taxes Due. Can't think of a suggestion it just sounds kind of cockneyed.
Aiden Wilson
>implying anyone should go to college after 2010
Julian Rodriguez
You need both the high brow and the simple to understand examples. OP's example is fine. It will appeal to people that are smart and want to be treated as smart. People who can't understand it are useful idiots anyway, you can't rely on them because they are dumb and want to be treated dumb.
If you want smart people to join your cause, you have to treat them like they aren't stupid. That brings the people that aren't stupid to your cause because they want to be around more non-stupid people.
David Ortiz
Why is this an Australian water bill, are you goddamn fucking retarded? Why is this shit stickied? Fucking kill yourselves op & mods you goddamn motherfucking retarded cunts.
Ryan Kelly
(checked)
I like it, but I can see the average person missing the subtlety.
Evan White
are the what pass for bantz in modern day, modern time?
Jace Nelson
Am I being rused? this has rustled my jimmies more than I knew possible, everyone in this thread needs to fucking kill themselves for being so fucking retarded, or i just need to kill myself for falling for it
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
Eli Hill
learn english before you post you dumb cunt
is everyone in this thread bots?
Jason Price
This shows how much every household in America pays for illegal immigrants.
Carter Flores
You are petty upset over a grammatical error brought about by auto correct. If you weren't so mad you could figure out the mistake from the context and structure.
Brandon Peterson
How much money do we spend on policing niggers? The cops, the courts, the jails.
I'm not even going to venture a guess but it must be staggering.
Add to that the Mexishits, sand niggers, various and sundry ne'er do wells and all their gibs me.
We could be building condos in space for the amount of time and money we spend on this sub-human trash.
Tyler Hall
using an australian water bill as the base with identifying things (phone numbers, abn, bpay shit) left in it, it's sloppy at best useless at worst
were you suppose to reply to me you retarded cunt? you made no sense at all. i'm not really mad im more dumbfounded that there are cunts as retarded as this on the board the idea may have some merit but the execution in this thread is so poor it doesnt deserve a sticky and doesnt deserve the bot like praise it's recieved, 8pol has really really gone to shit, time to gas this entire board
Matthew Hernandez
this is less than I thought it would be. most normies would pass $100 a month off as "just a small price to pay to make sure mexicans can live more comfortably than they would in mexico"
Dominic Russell
Still having a go? Did you even read the thread? You can hide the clown spam if it's still there.
Elijah Hill
pot meet kettle Yes I read the thread, I don't care about the obvious clown bot, I want to know why no one else has pointed out what a shit fucking shoop the op is. And why the fuck is this shit stickied when its a piss poor job? It's just fucking bad and op/mods should feel bad. It doesn't make sense.
Zachary Clark
Upload a correction.
Easton Ramirez
Heres the new California concept, took some of the suggestions from posters, simplified it a bit with wrongthink red.
much better but get rid of the abn and that phone number, this should have been the op
Angel Bailey
Nice user
Benjamin Lewis
Erased abn, chaned phone number to ICE.
Charles Jenkins
now you're cooking with gas, ice was a nice touch, lol'd
Oliver Myers
States like NH, Maine, Nevada and Minnesota combined have 91,000 extra Hillary voters, very slim margins. If we flip 100k people to oppose those hillary voters, Trump has four states in his pocket come 2020.
Envelope - $0.01 each on Aliexpress Laser print cartridge - $6 dollars on Aliexpress (1500 prints), black and white Printer - $300, durable HP LaserJet P1102 Postage - $0.21 per letter. If anyone can think of a way to reduce postage it would be nice, it's like 99% of the cost. Total: $0.23 per flyer
Total is $23,000 most of it postage. $23,000 divided by the next 3 years = 7700 mailed per year $6700 divided by 365 days = 21 mailed per day
I think there are more than 21 people in this thread, if each mails one (or two!) letters a day to a random address in those four states (NH, Maine, Nevada and Minnesota), and given the very sweet conversion factor on that flyer, we would be making a serious impact on voting patterns in time for re-election.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
ITT: FBI trying to into ENTRAPMENT
Which is totally illegal.
Stap FBI stapppp
William Hernandez
Not and American, so i don't know the customs there, but can't you pay a kid to deliver those mails? You would certainly pay much less than the 20k+ for postage.
Jackson Richardson
Aren't they just going to do some counter-math and add up how much it's going to cost to erect a wall and deport the innocent dreamers, then present it on a similar bill, adding that the wall will be circumvented somehow anyway?
Gavin Clark
Jej you hit the shariablue tripwire with this one son. Remember OP there is more than one way to skin a meme: this falls under the Kubrick school of thought, that is
== Let them read between the lines and discover the message themselves, the psychological impact will be greater that way.
Mason Myers
It's out of 126m households, many of those are on gibs, permapoor, or illegal, i.e. don't pay into the federal income tax that funds this theft. The better number is how many dollars out of a thousand earned by an over the poverty line person (white workers) go to illegals and shiet. That let's people look at a hundred dollars ok their yearly pretax salary and say, oh, shit gotta pay x/1000, which makes for easy math, multiply x by however many thousand they make (millionaires don't give a fuck or Dodge taxes well) and they can get a much better idea, you could ha e a sliding scale as well showing them from 0$ to 500k$ what their "contribution" is.
This looks great. Has a good description too. I should print them and send them to all my white neighbors.
Benjamin Stewart
Looks pretty good, but what the hell is the Ultra-Conservative Alliance? I don't think that's even a real thing. If the point of this is to redpill normies, then that ought to go. Identifying yourself as ultra-anything is a great way to get lemmings to ignore you. Remember, all they care about is food, money, toys, and cummies. Ideology scares them, especially if it threatens the status quo. This is a great piece of propaganda because it gets them thinking about their pocketbooks, but it needs to be packaged carefully.
I would suggest reworking the last sentence into this:
Daniel Martin
Keep in mind that nothing prevents you from mailing something out with no return address, though. It would be illegal to spoof a utility company or whatever, but entirely legal to not use a return address at all.
Jaxon Gutierrez
They (libcucks/progresdives) don't care about the cost of the safety of citizens. They also don't understand the long game. I hope shit goes down on the 4th. They need to get checked hard.
Jackson Rodriguez
(heiled)
William James
thanks for the clarification user, good stuff. Those whom intend on physically mailing these out, take note. don't get assraped by cia niggers trying to do a good thing.
Hudson Ward
*boink*
Yo OP, is there a way to mass mail these out? I was just thinking about taking one neighborhood and mailing these to every other house. From their word of mouth should spread it.
Angel Anderson
This and trips of truth
This is fantastic but it only applies to California now, we either need one for every state or a basic one that involves the entire country.
Caleb Garcia
Seems very low. I looked into this year ago and it was multiples of your total OP. Most normies will be ok with this because they owe tens of thousands in cc and other debt and they never intend to repay it.
Jonathan Long
But this is 1k annually. They're paying this every year out of pocket to have their wealth and QOL go down so that foreigners live well and eventually replace them
David Murphy
We could have shipped all the niggers back to Africa in golden coffins with that money.
Leo Flores
bump for a good idea and good suggestions in thread
Isaiah Morales
The type of info being slid by mods and faggot shitposters
