WWIII and the Student Debt Crisis

So with the possibility of a third world war seeming more and more likely each day, I have been giving some thought to the circumstances surrounding the first two world wars. If a third world war were to occur, especially if it involved conflict between NATO and China, it seems that there would probably be a draft for the first time since Vietnam. China is sure to put as many men on the field as possible, and they have a large enough population to fuel a pretty massive war effort. Having better technology will only get NATO so far in terms of countering this. But, after Vietnam, proposing a draft in Western countries holds some challenges due to how unpopular such a move would be.

Then it hit me. After the success of Bernie Sander's free college bullshit with the far left in the primaries during the past election here in the U.S. and everybody talking about UBI, what if this is used as leverage to get people to cooperate with a draft? Much like they used the premise of extending the franchise as an excuse to institute widespread conscription during WWI, willl they make promises of student debt forgiveness to conscripts to gain public approval for conscription for WWIII?

Maybe there is something I am missing that makes this unlikely or impossible, but it seems like (((they))) could end up using WWIII to roll out their plans for a new economy in which everybody is helplessly bound to the government and only exist to be milked for consumerism.

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Drafts will be impossible in western nations at this time. With social media it would be too easy for young white men to begin a mass movement against conscription. Jews are going to find out what happens when you demoralize a population and passify them with trinkets.

You paint a picture of a much brighter future than I am anticipating. Do you really think that these past few generations aren't so cucked that they would actually capable of doing something as dangerous as rising up or draft dodging? I don't see the type of energy or adventurousness in today's youth that they had back during Vietnam.

I hope you are right, btw.

too many fat fucks for a draft to work

I thought about that, but I figured that the number of fatties just means that those who actually have any degree of fitness are more likely to be drafted to fill the ranks to make up for the difference.

Look at the two factions you have in the youth today across the west:
- You have the lefty urban types who are comfortable, weak, sheltered and have no real life experience, and are generally against violence and conflict (unless they are commies but even then they only want violent against trashcans and store windows)
- You have the rising right who are fit but increasingly see their governments as repressive enemies. In some cases (like us) they know their governments are trying to ethnically cleanse them from their own nations and are run by (((foreigners))).

A hundred years ago you couldn't easily organize a million man march against conscription for some war no one would want to fight in. If my government (not the US Gov) were to call for a draft to go fight China I would definitely risk arrest and refuse to be drafted.

Young white men are demoralized. You need patriotism to have the will to fight the other. But what have the chinese, or the Iranians, or the N-koreans done to any of us in London, Paris, Berlin etc…

Nothing.

At this time, conscription is absolutely impossible.

Of course people like us would not go so willingly, but here in the U.S. there are still plenty of unironic jingoist cuckservatives and neocons around.

As far as the leftists urbanites go, I think they would sell out their so-called values in a heartbeat if msnbc or their college professor told them to. Russia is evil you know is is going to shoah 6 million transsexuals. If they thought that it would bring about social justice, they would support it thinking it would magically somehow not directly require sacrifice from them, like all their favorite socialist policies. Maybe they are different in your country, though.

I hope you are right that the digital age and the ability to organize protest has made such a move impossible.

All this WW3 talk is retarded. To have a war you need an enemy. Who's that going to be? Russia and China are both kosher as fuck, and nobody is going to risk war as long as shekels are flowing.

Haha, I would love to see them try. I guarantee 80% of the cucks aren't fit enough to make it through basic training. They're either fat or weigh

Other than UBI, the only solution to the inevitable unemployment crisis that will arise from continued automation, immigration, and outsourcing will be the convenient eradication of excess, which is why I think WWIII is not as unlikely as thinks it is. Unmarried and underemployed urban males are trouble. So I think this would probably be it. Cannon fodder and distractions from important ops.

War against separate economical system is possible. Against an aggressor who will decide to influence the world with his new economical and political system, who would revolve against the system in his country and force new one on others. Both dangerous to a jew and to the new western world order.

A communist. Russian communist.

I disagree, I think the interest of at least 90% of millenials in actually achieving social justice ends at virtue signaling alone. The moment they're asked to actually lay down and die for their beliefs they'll be nowhere to be found.

A fun game is to ask or suggest to someone who's spouting muh privilege nonsense to consider dropping out of school or quit their job to make room for a PoC and see how fast they start coming up with reasons why they "deserve" to be where they are instead of some nigger.

I was imagining it more along the lines of them being willing to go along with it thinking that they will not be the one who has to pay, only other people! But then when Uncle Sam shows up at their doorstep, and it sinks in that "No, YOU have to pay" they will be too big of cucks to resist because the consequences are too scary.

You are right about it all being virtue signalling, and I've witnessed exactly the effect you are describing, kek.

To expand on what I mean, go watch the movie of the musical Hair. One of the characters is your typical rebellious liberal, he spends the whole movie being a massive fuck up acting like he is going to resist the government and dodge the draft, but in the end he goes along with it like a good goy because the consequences of not doing so were too scary.

there will not be a ground invasion of china, wihtout a beachhead and against 1+ bil of chinks thats crazy even for the neocohens
especially considering china has no force projection and can still be navally blockade du to superior us naval assets (at the moment at least)
if you follow the news the military buildup is centering around russia at the moment as an invasion of the industrial and populous western russia would be possible starting from the navo baltics

also after vietnam they learned that drafting is a really stupid thing to do
look up fragging at the end of the war their own soldiers were a bigger threat to the officers than the vietcong
not to mention mass infantry tactics aren't really usefull in todays battlefield

This makes sense.

That's a good point. I guess if the government could engineer a way to make signing up a virtue signaling opportunity then they might be able to get a good number to go along willingly. Now that I think about it, I definitely believe that a significant percentage of people would die or kill willingly for likes/upboats. Whether those same people are fit for military service because of their crippling narcissism is another matter entirely.

IF World War III come it will not be fought with conventional weapons.
Conscription would be useless.

They have no choice but to start a world war to distract from the fact that the pensions are running out. Its the perfect distraction to hide all of their corruption while reducing the population to levels that suit them. 500M-1B.

The likely scenario is an attack an america which takes out the entire power grid minus the military installations of course. "If you sign up, we'll give you three square meals a day…".
They'll push us to the brink of starvation to get what (((they))) want which is why prepping for a long term stay innawoods is crucial.

wtf is the quoit theory

They are playing with the fact that horseshoe theory is called "horseshoe theory."

Plenty of stories from the previous drafts with sentiments like:
"Military service was great! I ate well!"
Depression-era desperation and/or rural poverty filling the ranks, I suppose.

WW2? I have never heard anyone say anything good about Vietnam

Shit, the Germans had more non German volunteers in the SS than the USA had Americans in their army. When they found out pissing the bed was reason for discharge, entire bases became bed wetters. And this despite a depression, the promise of 3 meals a day, a bed and pretty good pay.

Top Kek. You have a source on that? Sounds like it would be amusing to read about.

That's what they did in Afghanistan. I remember an account of that.

Not sure where I read it. First thing on my mind is Mike King's book 'The Bad War'.

It's a great read in any case.

Found a PDF. Thanks for the recommendation.

How do people even get student debt?
In order to pay for it I went from hikikomori to hikikomori with a job. My first job without even getting any pay raises can pay for my whole college tuition (all the years I have planned left) with just a year of of working.
Personally I don't plan on falling into (((student loans))) myself.

muh grandfather signed up for just those reasons pre war when rosevelt put out the call for soldiers….

you don't need men for anything other than holding territory, wars these days are fought economically. force projection with air and missle tech is used to destroy the others capital. you don't meat grinder unless you wanna hold clay. E.G. afghanistan for the opiates we flood usa with now

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I hear ya user. Get a trade, start a small business. Fuck the hamsterwheel.

I'm retarded, need sleep. But anything other than debt you can't default is better than 90% of what university can offer. You're on pol so I'll go ahead and assume you're certainly
studying something useful.

What is more dangerous, draft dodging or joining the ZOG army as cannonfodder?

I used to work in student loan refinancing, so I've seen these loans at their worst, when the bill is due and the borrower needs to consolidate them all.

First, you get a teenager from a middle class family and relentlessly drill home the message that people without college degrees are gas-pumping losers. It works like peer pressure: You don't want to be a loser, do you?

Second, advance the meme that there are "good schools," which naturally cost a lot more. There is some truth to this – MIT and Cal Tech are better STEM schools than Georgetown, and it's true that Harvard will open more doors than Wayne State, but this is overrated. The same facts get taught at a $10,000-a-year state college as you'll learn paying five times that at a private school. The difference is prestige and, to a certain extent, the ease with which you can go on to certain post-secondary schools.

Third, post-secondary school. Graduate-level education is helpful in some places, such as getting an MBA in finance or an MSW for social work, and it's essential for the professions, such as a J.D. or M.D., but if you're not going to be a professional or do scientific research, it's probably not worth it. Adding $50,000 to your debt load so you can tell people you have a Master's degree in English, as opposed to a mere Bachelor's degree, is fucking bullshit. Very profitable bullshit for the schools and (((lenders))), but bullshit nonetheless, unless you dream of teaching and know someplace that pays six figures.

Finally, your counselor and broker, as well as sometimes your parents, encourage you to borrow for living expenses as well. That's how to turn what could be a $15,000 four-year degree that opens most of society's doors into a $250,000-plus-interest nightmare that will drive you to suicide at 28.

My advice is to decide early what you want out of life and ignore everybody who tells you you can't do it. If you want a life of nice, stable employment, home ownership, and a pregnant white wife, I say learn a trade we can't teach to robots yet, like electrical or plumbing work.

If you want tons of money, take some finance and business classes at a community college to see if it's for you. Accounting and marketing are the same stuff, regardless of where you learn it, and if you drop out to start a business it will still serve you well.

If you want to teach, get a Bachelor's degree in a useful subject, such as engineering or even nursing, and then do your meme degree in whatever field you love. That way, if your dream of teaching French philosophy doesn't pan out, you can fall back on an industrial gig that pays $150,000.

Unless you need a professional degree, stop at the Master's level. Lifetime earnings plunge after that, as most Ph.D.s are borderline unemployable, and only a minority get those tenure-track jobs. You'll be priced out of the job market, too, because all your potential employers will assume you're planning to ditch them when a fellowship opens up.

Education: A path to success, but so is a car. Make the right choice between a Prius and a Ferrari.

you seem to know a lot, is tech support at a trade school a good idea? I started 3 weeks ago but I'm considering swapping to electrical or plumbing in 6 months when they start new classes. thoughts?

They have too many people who literally have the mentality of feudal era peasants, and most of their educated and civilized people are dying from smog-releated illnesses, or living in underground ant-cities because they're so overpopulated. In fact, their army has essentially become a way to temporarily defer the problems of having millions of college graduates with no job openings for them to take. So they conscript them into military training to keep them busy for a couple years while the Communist Party tries to figure out what to do with them.

You think they're learning marksmanship? Combat tactics? CQC? How to operate dangerous weapons of war? Fuck no! China trains their millions and millions of soldiers how to march in parades and read communist party propaganda. Most never pick up a rifle because all they're doing is learning how to sing and march for photo ops and government celebrations.

There is no leverage, you cooperate or you get arrested.

wat do

Sounds like the best kind of solder to me

The funniest part is that is all true but the they are in SO much better shape then the Americans

I beg your pardon, is that like low level IT helpdesk drudgery? Any actual trade would be better than that. Going to a tech school to learn a hands on trade I can understand, going to a school to learn computers when everything is available online for free would be a colossal mistake.

That's just the same as everything is available at homedepo on the company budget

That should take you only 3 years to pay off if you cinch your belt and power through. Unless you live somewhere with insanely high cost of living.

Thinner ≠ healthier. The chinese are riddled with disease thanks to their environmental destruction.

Stealing from the home depot and accessing freely available information online are two completely different things. I mean, you wouldn't steal a car, would you?
Anyway, a degree in computers in and of itself is worthless. Its all about professional certifications and demonstrating that you know your shit in interviews.

I didn't mean physical shape I meant they don't have swaths of BLM members as military officers like the US does. That's why I posted that picture.

Don't go fight in some ZOG bullshit war dudes. Let the bots and nukes do their things. Stay and make DOTR count for something

Your RWDS pic is a thumbnail!

I suppose that's true but everywhere I looked, it said "require: 2 years in any tech course", which is what I'm doing. I don't really wanna do the computer thing but I figured I'd give it a try while I wait for plumbing/electric courses to start again. It only cost like 50 leafbucks and you get a 6 month internship at the end of it, apparently average starting salary is 60000 per year which is pretty good.

Not for the libshits but we need to have a global debt reset where every last drop of debt both government and privately held debt would be erased.

There's more debt than there's money. So only the kikes benefit from it.If Trump were to do that the economy would go to the stars. Or the economy implodes.
Either way, the economy will implode and we would still have the debt, I would rather implode the economy and not have the debt.

That's a pretty good idea. Do it for whole families and you might have me signed up.

I cant find a good woman anywhere that doesn't have at least 40k in debt.

How am I ever supposed to pay that off?

Trump is in alot of debt him self.

Just imagine all of that debt held by small buisness being wiped out, along with the house,and med & engineering school debt. Trump would become God Empeor for the masses who have over six figures of medial debt that was eradicated.

Like I said, only the kikes would hate it as corporations who have billions of dollars of debt like ToysrUS would get their debt eradicated as well. 60k jobs saved with that company alone.

thanks for the laugh

Agreed. An external war now will just advance the already degrading white demographics. At the rate they have kids, the spic and muslim numbers will bounce right back.

I'm just unsure how to budget because i get weekly paychecks so its not that much at a time and no one's ever really sat me down and taught me proper personal budgeting.

From what you're saying, i should just dump half my paycheck into debt anytime?

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Quick answer:Depends on the country
Longer one:Fuck where do I even begin,You can contact your enemy on private channels or here,It would become transparent that gov's want to fight not the people
The state of milenials-I am a fat fuck but I am trying to loose weight to get in the army ,the "comfy kids" often are gamers how would like a shot at living the games
Until they realize that geneva convention won't be upheld and they can be burned alive
That thought scares me
Geopolitics(Poland)-Most war ready countries would benefit using my country as a battlefield yet again,"we" know that,I can only hope that the us forces we employ on the border won't start shit with russia just to pull them inside our land-not like this,getting betrayed again
Draft-appeal to patriots with duty and rest with jail ,-and its a must anyway ,fats can be forced to train
One of reasons I want to join is to train now before being a month of tranning drafted cannon meat
Other is I want to get into special forces and have a "say" when shit goes down and not just defend foxholes

I'm not some financial guru or anything, but it's pretty easy, user. Sticking to it is more the problem:
Add these together and round up, and you have your total monthly expenses. If you are paid weekly, divide this by four and set aside this much each week to pay bills and buy groceries.
Take your monthly expenses, and multiply by 12. That is your yearly expenses. Subtract this from your yearly income. What you have left can be used for savings and paying off your debt. Depending on how quickly you want to pay off your debt and how much you trust the economy, you can set aside a certain amount of this each paycheck to put into savings. Once you figure out how much per year you want to save, subtract that from the remaining income per year, and what you have left is your payment towards your debt per year. You can do basic division to figure out how long it should take you to pay off your loan.
It's just common sense and middle school math, really.

Minor correction user… Weekly income times 4.33.
Household budget isn't hard, but hard to hold yourself to. If you make all your purchases with a (((credit/debit))) card, it's easy to look at several months expenses to review. Print the transaction history, then go through it with highlighters and a pen to categorize. Budget for all essentials and give yourself some reasonable extras like biweekly haircuts or a weekly sixpack of something cheap.
Good luck

Save up for an electric shaver , I like having my hair short and cut it every week ,The one I have now still works after 3 years of this
Depends what you like ,maybe learn to use scissors-that's pretty /survival too
Learn to shop like a mother ,read pricedowns of every shop around , 2 for a price of1 and other stuff,maybe try a local "market" where people sell their own vegetables(depends if they know about the "healthy food" meme) you can get cheap vegetables , or a lot of them at one time cheaper(especially if they ignore EU standards of straight pickles that shops have to uphold)
Just throw:10 ways to save money/spend less in google

join and your federal student loan debt will be forgiven goy. They will allow you to do it willingly. You will ask for it.

why even go to college when there are trades that pay 60k per year lmao.

i personally have plans to go to computer science but this is ONLY due to the almost instant job offer before college is out
500k unfilled jobs, roughly 43k graduates per year
assuming that 35-40k get employed per year
then you basically have a guaranteed job

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sounds like a good plan, not removing market restrictions and reinvigorating national industries
I mean, you can just trade corn for cars, so why bother making cars goy.

A direct NATO vs China war would be impossible, or suicidally stupid.

If China tried to attack the US it wouldn't even get off the ground. The US has such overwhelming naval superiority in the region China could never even leave the mainland.

If NATO directly attacked China it would be the ugliest war in human history. A land war in mainland China would be the dumbest thing imaginable. Maybe a naval blockade and an airwar, maybe. But a boots on the ground war in China would be supremely stupid and no matter how bad the American military leadership gets, they all know this.

More likely scenarios: NK/SK proxy war with limited engagement (most likely but pretty bad). India vs China with NATO intervention on India's behalf (pretty fucking bad for India and China, best possible outcome for us) or a war between Russia/China with NATO as a wildcard (worst possible fucking outcome, massive war, billions dead, western civilization annihilated entirely).

Which would NATO most likely support though?

Rationally they should support Russia.

Realistically they would support China, which is why it would be so fucking bad. The reason is that China is now so interconnected with the western global economic system that destroying it would ruin the globalist plans for decades. That and I strongly suspect that the kikes have grown bored of Europeans and want to go fuck up the Asians now, and will use China to do so.

Russia is being put forward as the bogeyman scapegoat for everything in the mainstream media, which makes me worry this is some sort of conditioning before something major happens.

I can definitely agree that there are conditioning us for a war with the Russians but I hope they realize there will be little to nothing left of the world for (((them))) to rule over after.

The "bread line" honestly doesnt look that bad, especially conscidering how large the stores are and the fact that there's not only one person in them at any given time.

All the US would need to do is execute a false flag and blame a foreign government for it. Then watch all the normies eat it up, internalize it and cry for action. It would be one hell of a campaign and it's exactly what happened after 9/11. Young men (and a few womyn) enlisted in droves after an enemy was named.

For anyone doubting that fat and out of shape young people wouldn't be drafted you should look into Mcnamara's Morons during Vietnam where millions of literal retards were drafted because they needed bodies. Just like the movie Forrest Gump but with a whole lot more death and a lot less chocolate. What I'm trying to say is that if the government gets desperate enough being out of shape really won't matter because it's about cannon fodder at that point.

Most conservatives move away from the media and consumerism, so knowing the true opinions of conservatives in the MSM bubble gets harder as time goes on. Ironically the exception is vidya, the last bread and circuses. Then they attacked it, causing the process of complete removal of all media to begin and thus cfreating the very enemy they fear. (Note: gamerGate's success or failures doesn't particularly matter at this point because SJWs are going full retard with the virtue signaling and killing themselves.)

Two things to point out:
The whole "young white men to begin a mass movement against conscription" makes me lol, considering all those same white men have already signed a selective service card and haven't started any movements about it.

And two, if universities are breeding grounds for limp-wristed communist art majors, I relish the idea of convincing them all to march against China.

…then after they're all gone we can send in the REAL troops.

yeah the ones in college are just gonna dodge the draft, then all the masculine and strong men are gonna die, then the ones who stayed will self destruct since, that's what they're already trying to do aaaaaaand it's checkmate.

Good thing EBT recipients can buy $3 2oz bags of Funyons anywhere or that line would be a reality.

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Ya got me right in the feels, user.
I wasted so many years being indoctrinated with poison brewed to destroy me and my posterity instead of working.

It's bad enough as a man, but what it does to the women is even worse.
It's almost as though this is just a trick to get women to waste time and money during their most fertile years so that by the time they graduate, they come with a debt instead of a dowry, STIs, the ghost of chad's penis, a few dozen extra pounds, and a brain full of anti-white propaganda.


See above you glorious fellow blackpilled faggot.

I think the ramp up is likely to coincide with new technological breakthroughs on the missile defense program.

Russia recently started developing new advanced MIRV ICBM missle designs, dumping tons of money into the research and production of these. The main reason for MIRV designs is to launch multiple warheads and have some of them be dummies, to try to misdirect anti-missile defenses.

I suspect America is reaching a point where it has sufficient missle defenses where war could, at least theoretically, be back on the table again.

Ya got me right in the feels, user.
I wasted so many years being indoctrinated with poison brewed to destroy me and my posterity instead of working.

It's bad enough as a man, but what it does to the women is even worse.
It's almost as though this is just a trick to get women to waste time and money during their most fertile years so that by the time they graduate, they come with a debt instead of a dowry, STIs, the ghost of chad's penis, a few dozen extra pounds, and a brain full of anti-white propaganda.


See above you glorious fellow blackpilled faggot.

I am assuming you don't have a wife or children.
Figure that you only get the minimum. Pay your student loans off first. Pay double or triple the minimum, more if you are in a low cost of living area. Downgrade your internet, cook your food instead of going out. Don't drink in excess, and all of the other things you hear about to not spend money on.

lol, The same ones that get triggered from words? How exactly are they going to a) figure out how and b) manage to actually survive dodging it? It's not exactly something they teach in gender studies or art.

England, Germany and France were kosher as fuck as well when WW1 started. Remember, every war since the french revolution happened to fill the coffers of the (((Rothschilds)))

You'll need this:
gnucash.org/
Just a quick run-down on double-entry accounting:
Assets-Liabilities=Income-Expenses the total 'stuff' = total 'movement of stuff', or
Assets+Expenses=Income+Liabilities the 'debits mean add accounts' = the 'credits mean add accounts'.
Every transaction has a 'debit' side and 'credit' side. Forget that 'debit' and 'credit' mean anything with cards, machines, etc. 'Debit' is simply the 'left column,' 'credit' is simply the 'right column.' Every transaction has at least* one debit and one credit because you can do many-to-one, one-to-many, and many-to-many, not just one-to-one. 'Debit normal' accounts mean accounts where a debit is a positive movement in account balance magnitude and credit is a negative movement. 'Credit normal' accounts mean the opposite, where credit is positive and debit is negative.
When you get paid by your employer, you debit your paycheck into Assets>Bank>Checking and credit Income>Employment>CompanyName. When you buy hot pockets at the store, you debit Expenses>Grocery>Store and credit Assets>Bank>Checking. If you loan your coworker money, you debit Assets>AccountsReceivable>CoworkerName and credit Assets>Cash>PettyCash. If you borrow money from your mother, you debit Assets>Bank>Checking and credit Liabilities>PettyLoans>Mother. These are simple one-to-one transactions, but do you see the theme? There is an account debited, and an account credited. Whether the debit/credit means positive/negative depends on what accounts are debited/credited.
Add this to other advice about figuring out your cashflow as a function of time, and you have the basics for creating a budget and tracking it. The only part left of this little video game is: are you man enough to control your spending?

You already get free college for joining the military.

They shouldn't be worrying about Russia. Their greatest fear imho is internal revolt in the US. It would completely destroy the globalist plan and quite possibly lead to the eradication of the jews. Imagine if some Holla Forums-tier guy was able to gain control of just a few nukes. Israel, SF, LA, Chicago and NYC would cease to exist.