Counter-shill Dis-disinformation Workshop Thread

Conspiracy Autist here once again to strike a blow for justice and gamers of the based variety against unethical, nontransparent business and marketing practices currently terminally plaguing the industry.

I come to you today with a message. I suggest you heed it well. Mobile gaming is the direction in which powerful forces within the industry wish to take things in the future. The mobile game shills are now upon us all, as gamers, and they could be coming to a message board or other website near you, soon.

The cancer has progressed to its final stage. After this, all will be lost for good. What can we do to stop it? And we must do something. For it is our duty to stand up for the hobby we love, and fight back against its destruction by those who don't care about it and, in fact, hate us.

ITT Post any evidence you have proving shilling and discuss it – how it works, why it's been so effective, and what we can do about it. If you don't agree with this thread in any way please hide and ignore and go about your business elsewhere, in threads you do like, because no one here cares and will probably (understandably) accuse you of shilling. You have been warned. Now, let's have a productive thread, ok guys?

Fuck off, shill

Gonna assume thats cuckchan's Holla Forums in pic

OK By the way sega is shilling hardcore

How about you fuck off back to halfchan?

It really sucks to see Nintendo succumb to it.

Are mobile games inherently bad, or are there good ones as well? It just seems like an oversaturated market.

Indeed. I have been keeping tabs on their archives for some time, even though I don't actually post there very often. I am utterly convinced cuck/v/ is utterly compromised in terms of being a place of legitimate, genuine discussion of vidya – and not just by its own shitty moderation staff, either, but by corporations, and researchers as well, who have practically taken over the place.

I have a theory about 3x3 threads there, but results so far may be inconclusive, or maybe not…

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I mean, yeah its shitty, but they are old fucking men with no idea what they are doing.

WHAT THE MAJOR CORPS BURN MUWHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Well they don't call it cuckchan for nothing


And you know what they say about old men and old guards

Just dont get started on the jews kill Iwata, that shit is hilarious.

OP scores a direct hit

Oh?

Do you have any evidence of this?

They're just video games, OP. Check 'em.

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While not evidence of shilling, I do expect it to pick up since Hillary namedropped Holla Forums

NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG

Even here they're allowed to get away with it. You might be the one who posted the shill survey warning in that thread about the PS4 not being able to play 4k blurays.

That thread has all the signs of being made by Microsoft shills. The image in the OP is a dead giveaway; they've made hundreds of terrible gifs and videos where faces or logos are poorly pasted in in a similar manner. Once you've seen enough of them they stick out like a sore thumb, they all follow the exact same tutorial and put in very little effort to make something they know is shitty to begin with. They didn't even bother posting a webm/gif or even embedding the youtube video, just a video thumbnail from youtube.

I used to make similar images to yours but gave up in the end. There's an endless supply of these shills and it's unlikely that the BO wouldn't be swayed by free products or money. This isn't a personal attack against Mark, I'd probably do the same in his position.

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Reminder that we can have mobile threads and they wont die if its a Nintendo property.

Its probably because retards feed the thread and dont even fucking sage while they're shitposting like newfriends. Or they are literally just casual shitter ruining the industry. If the industry crashes, only niche games will be available and it will be glorious

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There's a Granblue general that's already on its 4th thread.

what's bad with 3x3 user? Never actively participated in them so I dunno. Are they used for datamining?

pls don't flak me I'm actually interested

Oh wait I read the image more carefully
I really should get some rest
polite sage

Its a fucking trash game and the moe cocksucking faggots with shit taste dont belong here, but Im going to play devils advocate and say that theres also a browser version.

Either version and the people who play them should be euthanized though.

Its also the same kind of trash that play Overwatch

is it really so bad?

I have Pixel Dungeons or my phone, it's an okay game even if it's mobile only

Yes, yes it is.

You make it too easy.

You can thank Mark for that, community is getting infiltrated and most veterans are leaving while nothing is being done about it.

where do they leave for?

Because you're a faggot with no integrity.

Other boards, Halfchan, Reddit other alternative imageboards/forums

Good, they can stay there

True enough, but either you like it or not there are still good posters in the torrent of shit that is halfchan and some are going back especially due to how similar this one has been in terms of post quality and shilling lately.

Maybe dead alternatives like .pl

WeW

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Anyone got that pic of Filia?

I don't know I take a look at a few 4chan boards every month or so (just curious to see what the kids are up to these days) and its much worse there than it is here. Holla Forums is literally all teenagers and people who barely speak english,…. and Holla Forums over there is memes general with board ids turning everyone into defacto trip fags.

I mean if you don't believe me how low quality it is over there, go take a look. The last thread I read on 4 Holla Forums was literally someone calling the wii u the pee poo over and over again.

Ive heard, but that doesmt change the fact that it gets shittier by the day in here.
Daily Overwatch threads, mobile threads, post yfw threads, no Rob, No trains, drawthreads are an wven bigger cesspit, shitposting and newfags increasingly growing.

Fuck man, I have to stay up till 5-6am with people with the same idea and the Aussies to get some decent discussion going on.

I replied to the wrong post, but that was exactly point. I meant to reply to

Template threads are crappy, always have been. They're okay once in awhile, but it never seems to be like that.

There are still plenty of folks here from 2014 though too, we're just not as united as we where back then. I don't think we're attracting that many new friends unless 4 Holla Forums is banning lots of people lately, though I will admit the user count seems to be building again. I kind of attributed that more to the fact that the sites finally been stable for a good strech again.

What do we do to be better? I'm really not sure what the answer is here.

Nice meme.

Do you have any evidence for your conspiracy theory?

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Less shitposts to browse through, more file variety, rules are somewhat better and prevent spam and viral marketing (like 60 something Overwatch threads like on cuckchan), slower but at a decent pace which is good for both users and mods, rules arent as strict (for most cases, but much stricter than before) , BO is dumb kike but not a malicious one, SJW shit is out, not advertised by mainstream media so it doesnt attract as many kids/normalfags, better taste in general

The biggest major flaw Id say is threads about more niche games sometimes dying if not kept bumped by the OP due to the smaller userbase and politics derailing threads, which depending on the quality of the thread can be either positive or negative.

Star citizen threads devolve into shitposting and webm spamming unless the thread specifically begins with the title shill citizen, in which case everyone mutually agrees that the game has had its development setbacks and has potential.

Why?

Can someone please explain to me where's the logic in shilling on a place with less than 3000 users? Big AAA games need big audiences, indie games are almost always going to get shat on.

They want the splatoon audience

There people who are genuinely afraid of our influence. It's funny and sad. However, they're also right that we're one of the few cultural hubs that has enough memetic output to affect things. That is, it's not about the size of the userbase, but how heavily that userbase affects other portions of the internet. 4chan was small once too.

Elaborate.


So we make OC memes, reddit and game forums eat it up? Don't they know you can't force memes?

The answer is in your other reply, yeah, it's true we can't force memes, but we make them, they try to force them just because they are made by us, our memes mean gold for them, because they "grow organically" and aren't specifically designed, memes are usually part of a community, much like inside jokes, you can't design an inside joke unless you spend time being part of a community, and being part of a community takes too much time to be affordable from a business point of view.

I mainly see people shitting on the game. I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Absolutely. Are you new to this?
Marketing itself is a game of memes. 99% of marketing is shit because it's literally just forced memes, mostly made by people who don't understand human behavior, or just plain didn't give a shit. Imageboards have never been profitable, but they possess an extreme degree of cultural power because of how we operate, which in theory can be used as marketing power.

It's exactly the same as YouTube. Why do you think Google keeps it afloat, operating at a loss, when from every conceivable business angle they should have canned that shit years ago? It's because, as it stands, they own one of the primary platforms of creative expression, and want to set the rules to it.

In many ways, the race to Web 2.0 was largely to profit off of the droves of users making content for you, rather than curating it. However, it ironically failed to directly control and capitalize on the very thing that enabled it to do so, which was ultimately far more valuable. Human interaction and culture.

I should clarify. The point of my last paragraph is to say that that's what they're trying to do now.

reminder

While some shill threads are blatant the vast majority must be false positives. I posted a thread about Exanima yesterday and got called a shill, I just wanted to tell folks about it because it's fun and not particularly well known.

Shill-spotting is good but if any thread about a specific game starts getting shitposted to death Holla Forums will go from being Holla Forums with videogames to Holla Forums2.0.

Youtube is also the second most popular search engine after Google.

And the material that they find on here isn't just new, it comes from corners of the internet they have no idea even exist and makes references to cultures they won't get. The stuff they make for their clients in comparison is 10 years behind the times and feels awkward to internet veterans. I've even seen several intelligence agencies try their hand at influencing small communities(much smaller than this board), the stuff they make is all wrong and for reasons they can't understand.

A simple comic like this might not seem like much but they spent hundreds of millions to promote Internet Explorer during the period when it was made. It went viral and they were at a loss on how to counter it, a decade later they had to give up on the brand entirely after going through several marketing firms. Visit the artist's page and all the comments for this strip are about how great IE really is and how they genuinely love it.

Even given that we know there are shills, there has never been a single shred of evidence in favor of anything said in this image. GameFAQs polls have always had retarded results, and Undertale's flavor-of-the-month hype was at retard maximum right as that poll was going on. If you hosted a poll for the greatest musician of all time on a music site primarily populated by 17-year-olds in 2012, Skrillex would have won it.

The fact that people think that this image alone, without any supporting evidence, is a more rational explanation than impressionable teenagers just already having waving opinions and shit taste, makes me think that they they've never had to interact with the kind of people who love Undertale in the real world.

I say this despite having enjoyed Undertale.

If you can reproduce the OP somehow I can help you analyze it and see what was the problem.

I guarantee that someone, somewhere, has already had the idea to try to subvert board culture to get us to make marketing for them, via OC.

I've been hearing rpgcodex. I've also been seeing guys show up on NMA a lot to bitch about fallout 4 lately.

It was a joke.

It was basically:
"Anyone else played this? I grabbed it yesterday and I'm pretty impressed so far, anything that moves/can move in game is subject to the game's physics engine, including combat. There was a puzzle maze on the first floor of the dungeon mode that you requires you to utilize this. Additionally it's a great example of armor porn in a game."

Can't be bothered writing dissertations and I generally make an awful job of one paragraph descriptions since I don't know what to include.

Are you sure you didn't say it was on sale? That would explain. It could just be your general demeanor. I don't know – I've never had an issue with being falsely accused of being a shill. But then I do make a reasonable, conscious effort to avoid sounding like one whenever I do discuss a particular game.

be careful with your words, any word can be a trigger word for the shill-accusing autist!

3000 posters. There are many lurkers here and our influence is greater than you can first think browsing Holla Forums.
It's been shown countless times that shills are in here so fuck off.

And that's a problem, how do you know what every user on the website considers a shill? For some anons just talking positives about a game is enough proof that someone is shilling, and if you get accused of shilling you bet your ass there's a faggot in the thread going to bandwagon on calling you a shill because he's just trying to stir shit up.

If I wanted to shill anywhere, I'd shill on halfchan. At least that has enough people browsing it that my message might reach people.

Gotta give something for the diversity hires to do, especially since their brother/best friend/fuck buddy is the head of marketing.

must be those shills and their psyop tactics at it again, trying to subliminally implant thoughts of a game they want me to buy into my brain so i cave in and buy it eventually!!!