UBI

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They wanna use the data to push the UBI. The data will by designed be flawed because they handpicked the recipients. They'll try to say that if UBI worked for those 3,000 people that they handpicked, then it's gonna work for the 300+ million citizens of the US.

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UBI is just welfare rebranded. Actually, UBI can technically save us more money because welfare+benefits technically equals 30-40k to tax payers per nappy head, UBI will only cost 12k per autumn. So UBI will save us a ton of money because welfare idiots are fucking morons who cannot into basic arithmetic and financial responsibility and wisdom and telling them UBI is "better" my taking away everything else so they can get a straight check they can blow on menthols, 40s, and rims will work better for all. The niggers are retards, they won't know better. UBI sounds more fancy but easier to understand to them than the complexities of welfare benefits. Take everything away, give them a straight check and move on.

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don't worry there will still be welfare on top of UBI for all the niggers with 10 niglets.

This. We'll keep every existing program and just shovel UBI on top.

UBI cannot by definition exist with all those things. UBI is a straight check, pure "basic" income, nothing else and you cannot have any programs or benefits on top of that otherwise it wouldn't be UBI. It's why it's so brilliant. UBI "sounds" way better than welfare but isn't. It's how we can save money and fuck over these societal leeches and vermin. Politics is 99% sophistry, my friend.

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ljl at thinking anyone in government will be honest with you about this
they'll pay out a check to poors on top of all the other welfare and call it UBI, benefiting from all the interest in the idea without having to actually do what it requires

1,000/month is still too much, it's gotta be around $500 and limited only to adults. It'd be a huge bonus for my family, so I kind of like the idea, but I really can't believe they'd scrap any of their nigger programs to pay for this.

1000 a month!? That's more than veterans fucking get for having a leg blown off!

they don't even say what states they're going to pick
can't you get more than that by getting on the neetbucks?

wasn't this thing so horribly BTFO that they stopped talking about it for a while?

Okay so where does the money come from?
If I paid $1000 in taxes then… SHIEEET

If anything this will only promote inflation and I wonder (((who))) will benefit from expanded currency

neetbucks?

Taxes. This is communism. Take everyone's money and hand out a portion while the bosses keep the majority.

Oh no. $1000, per month, PER NIGLET. We're going to see the nigger equivalent of puppy mills. Endless expanses of massively inbred niggers crammed into tiny rooms, collectively pulling down hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars per month. Alleys will fill up with government-subsidized, increasingly inhuman nigger-blobs. Eventually they'll overflow and the cities will be flooded with waves of Lovecraftian abominations, at taxpayer expense.
The only thing I can't say for sure is whether it'll be considered acceptable to cook and eat them. I suppose we might end up with "soylent brown".

god niggers are annoying with their internet usage these days.

UBI is proven to be beneficial to the economy as it's welfare expanding to whites CONTRIBUTING to the economy.

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I mean, all of this could be solved if we simply classified non-whites as non-human animals.

Yes, the bux.

Blame the left, propping up the top 1% of them, making everyone think that the other 99% isn't divided from the 1% by a gulf of at least 40 IQ points.


UBI is as good for the economy as UTI is good for the dick. If I were granted $1000 a month by the government, would I spend it? Hell no, I'd save it toward a house, or for medical needs, or other important shit to keep me healthy and off of the street. What would the ACTUAL recipients do with it? Spinnin' rims, nigga! Gots to have dat gold grill! Muh Xbox Live dun pay fo isself! Gots to show my game in Ma'en Twunny Ei-een!

Yeah, but all the tweakers and crackheads would die within days of their first checks.

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Tests going on everywhere even though it's been done before and the conclusions were horrible. Plenty of studies on it from top schools as well. Doesn't matter because pensions are so massively underfunded. The math and demographics of America and Europe has this bitch falling a part.

Yeah, everyone should just stop paying taxes then wonder why the country falls apart. Brilliant plan.

UBI would definitely help me. I am not on welfare and currently live off ~$12k a year. This would literally double my income. I would use the extra cash to invest in a (((Roth IRA))) so that I am not homeless once I am too old to work

They will never, ever cut it down to just one acrosstheboard payment.

grow up, the government isn't out to make shit actually work.


It would help me too, that doesn't make it good or reasonable.
why give your enemies your money? If the system as it is stands another 30-40 years, our race is probably fucked anyways.

It's a shit idea, and will be disastrous, but it's probably going to happen. I hope you like gopnik culture, because there's probably a low rent housing project and a track suit in you future. Culture and economy is going to stagnate, and will be fueled primarily by war. There's plenty of puppet dictators to declare enemies overnight.

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Really? I'd hold off on giving it to Jews to play bank with, and buy guns instead. Maybe demonstrate a little fucking initiative in getting this fucking race war started, ya know?

UBi is necicary to keep this economic model going.
a 100% guarentied debt ,school loan
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a 00% guarentied income to check it
a the 00% ubi point
its just a tax

ur argument is sophistry
applealing to his feelings of being stolen from

UBi is a tax
arguing about the amount as is simply aruguing how much prices should be inflated

injecting 1000*X%(pop) in to the base money supply every month will hit harder that QE until x%pop hit 1.0
then its just a tax

It's also still well below the poverty level and not enough to pay rent, bills, and food for a single person apartment or studio (which presumably the majority of veterans would need).

Or we could say no to ubi, make welfare and other social program optional to pay, force fucks who didn't pay their debts into mining and oil-rigging jobs in Alaska, kick out H1B visa holders and set-up import taxes to help refund and give back all the money to the people who decide to opt-out of social security.

holy shit, did you get fired from the daily show? excellent try, really it is, but you have to go back kike

the shills are very presnt here. fuck this, its creeping socialism

Can we at least try to stimulate the economy by printing money to establish a moon base instead of just giving it to niggers so they can work on their mix tape?

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UBI might be kind of cool but that is because I'm already on it.

HAHAHA. You actually think the government will work it this way. They wouldn't dare piss off their nigger pets. Make no mistake, a nigger may be a nigger and have an average IQ that a gorilla can rival, but they WILL notice when they have way less "stuff" each month. When they cant buy as much food, or as many newports, or as much weed, they'll notice. And they'll throw a shitfit about it.

So make no mistakes, this UBI WILL be on top of welfare benefits. You'll get your UBI check, and itll put you at a certain minimum, but it wont be the same minimum they're at now, so they'll still be getting food stamps and section 8 housing and other shit on top of it. Those benefits might, MIGHT, be reduced to keep them roughly at the level they're at now, but it WILL NOT decrease how much they already get.

Hell they may just decide to factor UBI out of determining eligibility for welfare benefits at all. They may just go "this does not count for gross income to figure out what you are ENTITLED to cause you're a nigger and useless," so in the end itll mean even more money going to the niggers.

Nah, UBI wont reduce welfare, itll expand it for niggers. Naturally those working like most of us here, we won't see a dime of it because we'll be "above the threshold of income" so we "wont need it." Hell I'm above the threshold for pretty much everything and my take home after taxes is just shy of 20k a year, fucking government takes more than 20% of my income in various taxes because despite living far outside the main city, I work close enough to it that it falls under them, and its all run by corrupt niggers who have taxes set sky high. I fucking pay more of a percent of my income in taxes than fucking bernie sanders does.

And this is why its all going to collapse. As soon as I have the money to do it, I'm going off the grid, full fucking inna woods. I know how to farm, hunt, fish, I'll learn how to build or just buy a tiny home and stick it on some land inna woods near a source of fresh water, far the fuck away from where any government would think to look. Either that or I'll just quit working and go on UBI and claim I can't find work and start leeching welfare like the niggers. Why work anymore? If uncle sam is gonna give me a phone and internet and housing and food and money to spend, why the fuck would I spend my time WORKING to earn less than what the government will just give me?

Either that or I'll move to australia and kill some emus and abos

Dead policy makers can't make ubi real

Communist kikes and (((oligarchs))) are shilling real hard for UBI lately. Even the Zuckerjew endorsed it

For now.

Why not force the employed to work where they hire wetbacks such as factory farmers,and slaughter houses?

When someone shills UBI, always ask them what they'd do when the free money they give to Shaniqua inevitably gets wasted on cigarettes, the latest iphone, and other superfluous shit and she runs out of money to feed her 16 chilluns.

Ask them if they'll be willing to say "No, Shaniqua, you knew how this worked when you started receiving UBI. We give you money to spend as you please and that's all you get. If you wasted it, then you and your children starve in the streets. Too bad, you chose this for yourself". They won't. They would never have the spine to do that. Instead, they'd happily reach into your pockets instead and pull out more tax money to feed the nigs.

So the message that the leeches will get is "waste your UBI money and the government will just take more money from whites to pay for the things you actually need anyway". There will be no incentive for people to manage their UBI money properly instead of blowing it on unncessary shit, because bleeding heart Communists will never put their foot down and say "no more money for you". No, it'll always be "waaah, Latisha can't be blamed for wasting your money! It's actually just proof that we didn't go far enough and the UBI needs to be raised! You know what, actually, we'll just cut out the middle man and have your paychecks deposited right into the government's funds and then we'll give you what we think you need, white man, while Shaquisha gets unlimited funds."

Saved. Thanks for giving your thoughts on this.

Slice your throat before I do it kike.

Why are you faggots trying to rename welfare? Do you think we won't know it's still welfare?

1. It’s literally how the kikes have operated for all words in the past.
2. Yes, people won’t know it.

Oh look, the monthly UBkike thread.

We need to know talking points.

Anyone shilling for UBI is not to be trusted.


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Imagine being a billionaire. Now image being part of small group of people who can buy almost whatever their hearts desire and have never experienced the stress of making the ends meet at the end of the month. Image these people on social media/internet and they get exposed to people talking about having to worry over being able to make bill payments for their car who are physically stressed over having the stress of worrying if the dishwasher or fridge brakes and not able to afford it hoping it doesn't break or they'll have to become 'creative' to fix that problem while you damn well know we live in a system with 'planned obsolescence' which means appliances will break in the short term.

You see, these 'rich' people hate poor and middle class average americans, they may act as if they care, but they rather care about their pet niggers in Africa who live in more destitute situations then western people. They don't care about you, they care about holding onto their wealth and lifestyle, that is their only prerogative. They see the divide just like you and me and they are beginning to get worried this horde of western people might just rise up and slaughter them. History proves that given enough time, this will happen! It is only 'entertainment' that has prevented it so.

Not only that, occupy wallstreet was close, real close! That is when the D&C by the media started, they had to create even more pressure points to fracture the consensus against the right by promoting faggotry, social rights movements and all that garbage got put on the front row seat, the side effect of that was off course that anyone who publicly opposed it would get to steamroll into the presidency, even had to go so far as remove the law that prevented the government from making propaganda against the American people.

You damn well know that even if UBI is granted, inflation and the market would simply re-balance within a few decades to which the people would be again left off where they were, BUT for the current billionaires it fixes the problem short term by drasticly lowering a chance that whites will rebel against their control system and vote for the third position. You would also create a new population boom among the subhumans much like in the 1960/70s. The dissatisfaction of people has never been this high in history. Back when they called for the murder of a politician you'd land up in a jail for a long term. Today it is openly stated and none cares simply because most agree but are not willing to be the one who will be held responsible, however, it will only require one rain drop to start the avalanche to turn into unstoppable boulder.

If you don’t already know them, you need to lurk the fuck more. Their narrative never changes.

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You get access to UBI, say $1400 a month in the area where you live per cost of living. Yet before that the UBI you got $1000 a month on welfare and other subsidies.

Why do you assume the rent is going to remain stagnant and not course correct upwards for the deflationary effect of "free money"?

Not just politicians but most of the other elites as well. When the inevitable war comes it is scary how brutal it has the potential of being. The us populace isn't just well armed but inventive and has a lot of information at it's fingertips. If you think wars are brutal in Iraq etc. now imagine instead of a bunch of inbred low IQ sandniggers there are high IQ highly educated whites building IED's, drones with bombs on them pic totally unrealated, using digitally encrypted radio communications etc. etc.

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I made no such assumption, faggot. Just give everyone a billion dollars a week. Everything will work out fine.

If UBI becomes the norm everyone one of us needs to stop wage cucking and get on this, we can then be Nazis full time without worrying about a job and help collapse the system.

Not the user you were replying to but this is another massive fault with (((capitalism))). When the goyim get more shekels they don't see it as "they now have more money to spend on more shit". The kike, in his ever evolving parasitic nature, sees it as "oy vey the goyim have more money, better skyrocket the prices of everything they're currently buying." Something that I despise about this country's distinct brand of Judaism, gotta keep the goyim living in perpetual poverty no matter how much slavepaper they may or may not have. Another utter kike failure, you'd think that if you're trying to subjugate a population via bread and circuses that it'd be better if the goyim had more bread and circuses instead of less and less

pick one

And where I must ask do they come up with the money for this stupidity? Oh wait! OUT OF THEIR ASS OF COURSE! My only real question is will this accelerate the eventual economic collapse by a few decades or a whole century? That's alot of fucking money they'll want to magic up from nowhere.


It's an actual fact that they have typically absolute SHIT long term thinking skills. It's pervaded their entire history and one of the reasons everyone kicked the crap out of them over the ages and helped shape their victim complex.

All they see from this is increased profits in the next quarter as they have an excuse to jack up prices dramatically. Not that they could ease all the tension by letting this new wash of income bolster the economy and let people feel happy and buy more which would help them way better over the coming years with steady growth. And the whole the public doesn't want to drag them and every other suit into the streets and lynch them thing.

Which is why I'm honestly hoping that they do indeed do this. When people see they're getting a check every month, finally relieved that they'll be able to start paying off some of their bills and actually be able to fucking eat properly, and instead see that they're blowing that check as soon as they get it to live the exact same way they were before then people really will start to wake up en masse. It's truly amazing to me the pure evil of kikes, they choose this. They fucking choose all of this. All of this suffering, the constant wars, the constant uprisings, getting booted from every corner of the Earth repeatedly. They choose this. Even now they choose this. You'd think it'd be common fucking sense that there'd be infinitely more rewards out of swindling a healthy and prosperous nation where the people are too engrossed in their day to day lives to even fucking care if these rats were stealing from em. Instead the kike is a demonic collective, the antithesis to everything good and natural. The natural enemies of common fucking sense for God's sake. It blows my mind that these pieces of shit have such ambition yet lack of any real means of achieving it outside of manipulation and half-assed lies. They bring ruin upon themselves on a consistent basis yet seem utterly incapable of gaining any sort of wisdom from it whatsoever. How the fuck is that possible? How the fuck can these people have such power and influence while being the real life equivalent of Dr. fucking Evil? Are we as equally inept as them? Has generational r-selection breeding been the cause of this? How can this be?

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Capitalism is the natural expression of the kike their perverted talmudism from abrahamism, when you see anarchist capitalist express their cravings for a truly free-market that's is the eternal jew memeing their 'free market', they want their right to blast your head off with a sawn off shotgun for being late on your monthly rent bill and thus being trespasser on their property.

In a nationalist land, the minimum and maximum of what might be asked for rent would be controlled by the government. The low, middle and high class would still be there. The land speculation as well as the housing market would not exist, even Hitler banned it, as they professed owning your own home and small piece of land is a natural right. Buying up land and holding it to turn a profit due to speculating where future housing is going to be build is against the interest of the people. Having the scrupulous cancer use those markets for their banking/finance world is perverted and robs the many of their little place to call home, therefor perverting their worldview by not having any adherence nor connection to their country or it's soil.

Business have no interest in losing money due to inflation, so they themselves also raise their rates and charge the customer for the governments scheme to print money. The money is already worthless, it has no value other then the trust the people put into it. The central banks have creates a exorbitant amount of wealth out of thin air. They will never let it crash, it can only crash when the people lose their faith in it. Until then, keep ctrl+p those numbers and slowly make the dollar even more worthless then it already is.

See the kikes natural response to a deflationary move by the government is that they will NEVER EVER take the hit. For example, say a kike gets a $300 powertool. A kike would return such a tool because hard labor oy vey. They would then look for 'deals' to re-use that cash. An example in the current government virtue signalers is that 'green' things are subsidized, that is to make the kike feel good about themselves. Naturally, subsidizing anything to promote a certain behavior in the goyims is not going to be at the kike's expense. So there might be a deal on light bulbs where also a rebate is sponsored by the government. So let's say a light bulb is currently off by from $9,80 per bulb to $3,50 per bulb, but the rebate takes off another $3 dollars because we gotta make them people be sustainable in lighting n shieet so a bulb is now temporary $0,50 per bulb. The kike uses his $300 to buy 600 light bulbs. He waits until the rebates and the discounts have ended and start selling those bulbs online through some digital platform for $7 per bulb with a $1,50 in shipping so it would cost $8,50 which is still cheaper then the $9,80 in the store. So he slowly sells of his 600 lightsbulbs at $7 and he now has turned his $300 tool into $4200. This is what you call jewing on a basic level.

Humanity did this to itself. Basically we won too hard, strife breeds excellence and humanity was the best of the fucking best back then. Strong, clever, inventive, and daring to the do the impossible constantly. It's how we tamed nature itself.

Thing is once you remove the constant survival pressure you lose the fine tuning Darwin talks about in that the weak die while the strong survive. When you go out in public you see this everywhere, look at the fellow "humans" you live around. Walking sacks of fat and/or stupidity so profound they would be literally unable to survive without our society helping them. They fucking glorify the disabled and retarded for god's sake! The end result are those god damn failures out there, dumb as dirt, ignorant as hell, and unable to do even the most basic of common sense problem solving.

The kike and everyone in cahoots with him actively encourage this as it makes their host the perfect specimen to infest. The dumber the public is the easier it is to rip them off.

Thing is this is what makes idiocracy a reality, eventually even the ones benefiting from it will be infected by this and the cycle comes full circle causing the collapse of civilization itself. It's been going on for ages now, the thing is each time civilization got bigger each time and now we're in this massive global one that spans the planet.

While we won't get Marvin's earth shattering kaboom it'll be just as effective when it falls apart around humanity's collective head. The only real silver lining is once it hits strife returns and with it excellence. Hopefully after the ensuing clusterfuck we'll have our shit together and deal with the causes of this cycle properly and definitively.

Always remember the average Holla Forums user is stuck in that awkward place of having far too much common sense for this era and the basic intelligence to think how things will happen down the line and read between lines. A lost art in this day and age.

It's so weird that both (((marxists))) and (((tech oligarchs))) are calling for UBI. I am trying to find the link.

Rich jewish tech oligarchs want to placate the brown masses they are importing into hWhite countries and turn everyone into a deracinated mongrel who will not resist their agenda.

(((Marxist))) kikes want UBI in order to abolish work and bring about the conditions for their global revolution to abolish nations and create their one world stateless utopia.

>Not the user you were replying to but this is another massive fault with (((capitalism))). When the goyim get more shekels they don't see it as "they now have more money to spend on more shit". The kike, in his ever evolving parasitic nature, sees it as "oy vey the goyim have more money, better skyrocket the prices of everything they're currently buying."

It's called inflation.

Just call them kikes. All they do is steal ideas and use jew connections to get the ball rolling.

I like the theory, but the problem with the concept of a UBI is that you need some way to prevent immigrants from coming in and freeloading.
"Free money for any US citizen" will quickly turn into "free money for anyone who can get into the US", and that's not going to work.

and as for "nigs getting free money", that isn't worth worrying about. dumb people will always be poor, no matter how much money they are given.
productive people (black or otherwise) will be productive with whatever they have.
unproductive people will constantly fail, and then (usually) insist that it was always someone else's fault.

The main reason Europeans have a higher IQ on average is not "because of the plagues". The plague events likely contributed to culling the weak and stupid, but Europeans had a higher average IQ long before the plagues.

The actual evolutionary bottlenecks that honed our genetics were the harsh winters and ice ages our distant ancestors endured in the Northern latitudes. Only those who had the capacity to plan ahead for the future, cooperate with others, and very importantly, had the capacity to judge the moral character of the individuals they chose to cooperate with (selfish and/or lazy individuals were an existential threat to the community with regards to long term survival).

Up your evolutionary psychology game, chimpnuts.

Underrated post!

That's not the right way to think about it. Your small contribution isn't going to do shit to collapse the system. The government doesn't need help with deficit spending, they're doing fine on their own. I agree if this comes to pass people should stop wage cucking for their own benefit, not as a fuck you to this doomed system.

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Interesting, I was just discussing rent controls with someone the other day to develop my thoughts on the matter.

Here in socialist leafland, this is actually the case in most cities. It doesn't work well, based on my observations over they years. For example, the maximum rent for a unit is calculated using a formula based on the operational and upkeep expenses of the building complex (talking about apartment units here). There is a corruption problem with this system, because the building owners simply fudge the numbers on maintenance and upkeep expenses for the annum, and in turn get permission to raise the rent for the next year above the apartment unit's set guidelines. Another problem is that in cities where these rent controls are in place, there is inevitably a constant dearth of available rental units because real estate developers don't see opportunity for much return on investment with regards to building new dwellings. This has led to a perpetual "renters market" (always less rental units available than people who are seeking to rent) which gives the rental corporations further clout with regards to pressuring the government into raising the maximum rent.

So right off the bat we have two huge problems: Corruption with regards to cheating the socialist algorithm that's in place to calculate the maximum rent, and lack of real estate development interest due to unimpressive return on interest prospects with regards to actually creating new dwellings that can be rented.

What are your proposed solutions for these very serious problems that plague or socialist system here in leafland? It seems to me that if the socialist rent controls were abolished, the free market would correct itself in no time with regards to an explosion in new real-estate development (supply and demand).


So are you proposing seizing all privately owned land property and redistributing it to the populace? What do you do if there is less land available than there are family units; does the government then force multiple families to live together arbitrarily based on some socialist algorithm?

How can owning a piece of land be a right? Why should Joe Bob who has never worked a day in his life be entitled to just as much resources as myself (who works hard) when it comes to creating and raising progeny? Whose labor are we robbing to give resources to Joe Bob? Mine, yours?


The only reason this particular profit opportunity exists is because of a socialist policy set by the government, so this is actually an example of how socialism interferes with the free market. This is actually a huge problem with regards to capitalist endeavors in the West, as many of our government have subsidized "green energy" such as solar, and energy companies developed the utilities for these technologies only because they received fat government rebate checks (in the millions of dollars).

See where that falls apart is that by forcing everyone into low wage like that is going to cause a feedback loop of lowering incomes without lowering prices forcing the public into banditry or worse to simply survive. Even more so it's going to massively reduce the power of government as they lose their magic tax dollars and make them clamp down on everyone even 'democracies' will be going dictatorship2k18. It either ends in cyberpunk dystopia without the cyber or the world breaking under it's own weight. And since this isn't badly written fiction I think everyone knows what it will be.

But boy oh boy do they believe that shit will happen with zero fucking repercussions whatsoever! Sometimes I wonder what it's like in their magical world.

I would use it to invest in taking classes for a useful skill, since my boomer parents never invested a cent in my education and blew everything they owned. Afterwards I'd throw the money into some kind of savings for emergencies or my children's funds. You can't expect everyone to be so responsible with money they never earned though, why do you think everyone gets in (((credit debt))). It's hard to keep track of money that isn't physically there or you didn't earn. Add in millions of shitskins and it's a fucking recipe for disaster. Basically, as much as it'd help me, for the greater good of white society, I'm against it. If we were in a high trust, high functioning white society it'd be another story.

UBI is directly to the client.

Welfare passes through many (((middlemen))) so it costs more money, and I expect a lot of (((pushback))) on UBI.

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At some point very soon all the bogus pension payments are going to stop, so this will be the "solution" to it.

God damn this shit is so incredibly Jewish.

>don't do anything, just get an allowance from (((us)))

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The reason it doesn't work because the leafs allow outside "investment" as well as extensive land purchasing & holding by outsiders of Canada. We all know the Asians are buying up Canadian housing market at extensive overpriced rates just to avoid the China chinks who devalue their currency to steal from the people their capital. This would not be possible in a 'protectionism' system by Nationalists nor would they allow a person of their nationality to act on behalf of these outside investments. Housing is a people's product. Secondly, corruption within the system would be dealt with by people like SS officers for example who would follow up police reports. The corrupt would be dealt with accordingly.


No, i am not in favor of using the government to take with force and then 'redistribute' this to people who are undeserving and want to continue to hold up their hands for welfare. That is communism. Learn what Austrian National Socialism is not what Marxian Socialism is! The individual should profit, if the individual does not profit from their work they will seize their work and none will profit! The individual should bear their fruits of their labor and their children should also bear those fruits. A national Socialist exclaims that the individual must profit and that society must also profit as well. If the individual profits but in turns destroys the ecological system of a river then it should be forbidden! The current tax system is doing what Nationalist already profess, just that it is run by a corrupt government, in fact it is doing that far more (overtaxation) then what a Nationalist government would require to run the country.

Traditional white social political behavior is about accruing capital. There's a big different between what someone in the right values as "capital" and some rootless international kike sees as their hard currency or financial investments as capital.

Children, land, minerals, a Government that acts in the interest of the people and the family unit, a military to defend the people, acquired knowledge, laws that preference the people over minorities or outsiders, all these things are capital and many more. Because that is what the in the end only matters, the propagation and it's survival of our people over any other. The Nation and it's race by which you breed with people outside your family within your race produces future generations of people who will become even better through gradual improvement due to nature's experimentation with genetics. It is the only thing that matters proponent of the evidence at hand, few races are intelligent nor capable enough to endure the mass of averages to maintain "civilization". A nation which supports your race and family is a ship for the continuation of your lineage.

These who think about accruing financial capital and nothing else are not interested in the survival of the nation nor it's people, but merely their own self serving interests and that is maintaining their wealth at ANY cost, even if means they sell all their acquired wheat into factories to produce alcohol rather then bread because the price for alcohol was higher and sold better in other countries, meanwhile 10 million Ukrainians die from hunger in what was known as the 'breadbasket' of Europe due to it's extensive wheat growing. Those who value "capital" have ideals that are parasitic to the nation because they aren't even slightly interested in it's survival. By their ideals they are in fact opposed to it's survival, it is a cult of slow suicide. They want pleasure now, profit now, not long term growth or slow profits. They live in the moment are carry the 'do as you like' mentality.

In the end, someone on the right wing field will value the ultimate real philosophical tenet and that is the survival of their children at ANY cost, once you view the world in this context everything else falls away. So what if you have a 401k filled, a few 100k on the stock market and live in a million dollar home, are you going to take it with you when you die? Do you even have children to begin with? You know this anti-people government will tax the living shit out of your assets when you die? Do you have the liberalism mental disorder of selfish greed and living for yourself? Everything is in clear black and white once you see what actual capital is. The survival of the Nation ensures the survival of the children, pollute one or the other and you destroy the future for short term gain. The most valuable "capital" that there is is your people and thus your children, nothing else matters in this eternal struggle!

>(((UBI)))
Isnt that one of the goals of (((Agenda 2030))) ?

You had me, up until

Two words for you, friend: Ruby Ridge.
And that's IF and only if they don't just say you are not allowed to use neetbux to buy guns and ammunition and may only use them for Good Goyim Approved purchases.

Not necessarily, I've lived in several different building complexes owned by domestic corporations. You didn't answer my question with regards to balancing supply and demand, and my observations about how social government interference in the rental market has caused a seemingly permanent imbalance of supply versus demand, as rent controls have reduced real estate development.


You can't solve all of these problems by just murdering people or threatening to murder people. Who decides who is corrupt? How is it investigated? We already have courts for that purpose, but the problem with regards to cheating the socialist rent control algorithm (inflating maintenance costs, either fraudulently or with frivolous overspending on meaningless bullshit) is inherent to the algorithm. If you are basing the market on some algorithm, people will always find a way to work around it. You can investigate as much as you want with your bureaucracies and death squads, but this will lead to a never ending growth of the government, because there will always be more and more algorithms and more and more ways to play the algorithms.

Saying you will just murder the people who play the algorithms is frankly barbaric. Not having stupid socialist algorithms that beget large corporations forming bureaucracies to deal with socialist government bureaucracies in the first place makes more sense, don't you think?


That is not why the Holodomor happened. It had nothing to do with capitalists trying to make more money by selling wheat to make grain alcohol, that is literally a communist excuse for the Holodomor, what the fuck user… The bolsheviks hated the Ukrainians, and having food shortages in other areas of the USSR, they confiscated their harvests for redistribution to other areas while forming a military blockade around the Ukraine to intentionally starve them.

You can hopefully pass it on to your descendants to help ensure your progeny's future reproductive success, assuming you have progeny.

If they don't have children then what does it matter where the money goes? They would either have indicated they wanted it given to a party of their choice (perhaps friends and relatives, or charities they think benefit society), or the state will take it and use it for something that is (hopefully) beneficial to the citizens.

All organisms are inherently selfish when it comes to their own survival and the survival of their offspring. I agree that we can and should use our cognitive abilities to balance this inherent trait with the needs of others in our group, but to say that inherent self interest is pathological is an absolute oversimplification at best, and utter denial of nature at worst.

I agree, but I think European people's genetic tendency towards individualism has produced a great deal of the technological innovation enabling our dominance over other genetic groups on the planet. We need to find a balance between the individual and the collective group. Going too far towards collectivism is dangerous because it ultimately breeds a totalitarian state which may or may not continue to uphold the conditions necessary for the survival of the group at large.

You really didn't answer my questions about rent control, by the way. Death squads is not an argument.

To add to your paragraph, there is a reason why a billionaire will favor a starving child in Africa over poor people in their own country.

The billionaire does not have to worry about a lack of resources, but instead has a paradoxical opposite problem. His or her life revolves around material objects, and yet they are dissatisfied. One of the most common fantasies of the billionaire is to 'leave it all behind', to go live on some Island somewhere.

The billionaire romanticizes the destitute. They think these people have some secret hidden answers to life and happiness. Because of this, they see middle class people struggling with car payments and such and it reminds them of their own vapid materialism. They think this genuine concern is the same as their greed, and they hate it because it reminds them of their own material conditions. They romanticize the destitute because they do not have material possessions, cannot ever have material possessions and so do not really concern themselves that much with material possessions. Likewise, the billionaire has all they could ever want and so do not concern themselves with material possessions either.

It is the middle class that is always working and struggling to maintain some small level of modern comfort. The very top and very bottom don't worry about these things, but for opposite reasons.

sooooo when will reality hit these commie morons?

do they think their "gods" (((elon musk))), (((mark zuckerburg))) and (((sam harris))) arent going to high tail it off to their private land in new zealand and hawaii when they crash they economy with their commie horse shit?

Around the time they start starving to death.

Keynesian morons. They purposefully don't understand inflation, because the ponzi scheme works great until it doesn't.

You're supposed to have children so that when you are too old to work your children and grandchildren will chip in to take care of you.

Start having white children now.

Should give $36/day instead of $1000/month.

Teach them bastards how to save. Lord knows they would just blow it all otherwise.

It's actually about the same as all other forms of welfare combined, even more if you include medicare. If you end it all and just give ubi instead it would save taxpayers money. But there in lies the problem. How to get UBI passed and end all other forms of welfare at the same time.

/thread.
This thread is fucking OVERRUN with shills.
Not going to work, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little impressed.

kek

thats a new model

all im saying is this will be shilled extra hard
watch, they will never mention its a tool of enslavement, devaluing the buying power of the dollar to the point to where the "extra" money + your old money is "worth" less that before.
Only now it can be taken before you earn it

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