Warhammer/40k Thread

While DoW 3 doesn't look like a horrible game per se, its definitely not the worthy followup to DoW1 I was waiting for. RIP Relic.

Adeptas Sororitas new codex and game when?

Alright so, single player will have armor customization co op will not.

go back to bell of lost souls and go dip there.

You only just figured that out?

Big guns are best guns.

I was thinking of probably trying Mordheim for PC, but I can't tell if it's any good.
Should I ?

40k just cut all ties with Fantasy Flight Games

fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/9/a-new-path-forward/

No more 40k tabletop RPG's. They also posted record losses in their latest annual report to their shareholders or some such, one of the guys in the company said they wouldn't treat the IP like a prostitute or some such.

Is the 40k license whoring in vidya next to be kaput?

No peestol?

Eternal Crusade already crashed and burned many months ago. Most of the original dev team left, the number of active players has plummeted, and the project has been scaled back from a Planetside-on-steroids campaign-based MMO to a generic 16-player deathmatch shooter.

Not to mention that now even they can't even reach the extremely low bar they've now set for themselves. The game hasn't actually changed in any significant way for a long time. They got it to the point at which it was an ugly, buggy, but just about playable mess, and decided to stop there and spend the remainder of their development time polishing that turd.

The fags from the official forums are forming raid parties for steam reviews and are downvoting negative reviews into oblivion.

It's dying, isn't it ? And among the video games only battlefleet gothic and space hulk deathwing are worth a shit.

If you could get anymore wrong it would be an achievement. Considering you think saying 16 player matches is anywhere relevant considering the smallest ones are 20v20.

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Can we all admit that the Eldar are by far the worst race.
They are such huge degenerates that their faggot orgy literally ruined the galaxy by creating a trap fag god and ruining the entire galaxy.

What about the dark eldar?

At least they're PRETTY OKAY with swords, more than can be said for most xenos. And constantly spewing grenades all over the place, if retribution is considered canon.
The biggest problem I have with the Eldar is that their vehicles and ships are so gay-looking and useless.

Apparently never, since GW forgot about them, but does not squat them because the sisters are a fan-favourite faction.
Everyone likes the battle nuns.

Eldar are second worst, worst is Tau.ORKS DA BEST!!

Mordheim is really, really shit. Skaven are massively OP, the game is both slow and stressful, and the encounters are level scaling.

That's really sad, my first RPG system was DH.

Other than that.

I want to get into 40k, how do I go about that?
I have no friends, so playing an actual tabletop game and someone teaching me by hand isn't going to happen.

I can't handle Relic killing Dawn of War like this. DoW3 could have redeemed the series but instead they pushed forward with cancerous e-sports garbage that now makes DoW2 look like Dark Crusade.

Why can't things in life be good?

The books are an excellent way of entrenching yourself in the lore.

Ok, what books you recommend? Is there like a "History of 40k" type book or anything made especially for newbies?

Caiaphas Cain is an excellent starting point. Anything by Dan Abnett is good.

Best place to break your teeth in is probably Dawn of War, though.

Seems really fucking stupid of them, maybe they're butthurt about FF making RuneWars which seems to aim to fill the gap Age of Sigmar made in Fantasy miniature games.

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Let the Galaxy Burn is another good starting point.

Ciaphas Cain series by Sandy Mitchell
Gaunt's Ghosts by Dan Abnett
and I'm enjoying Faith and Fire by James Swallow, but it's not quite entry level lore unless you're already in love with the sisters of battle

For 40k, the ending to Dawn of War II is about as good as you can hope for:
Since the Tyranid and Chaos endings are flat out non-canon now (though Thule was probably killed by Eliphas):

All in all, it's a really positive ending for 40k. Unless you're Chaos, but fuck da pointy gits.

Don't get into the tabletop. Read the lore, play the vidya and if you're desperate to do the tabletop thing get Tabletop Simulator. Starting books would be Gaunt's Ghosts and Dawn of War unless you've got a specific faction or chapter of Space Marines you like.

Morheim

Its Warhammer Fantasy X-Com with a slab or RNG.

Starting books would be Gaunt's Ghost, starting vidya would be Dawn of War.* Do not read the Dawn of War books. Lore rape of the highest level. Also multilasters.

Horus Heresy line, you can also go check in the share thread and ask for the link there, someone got the entire warhammer 40k books.

What the fuck is this shit and how good is it? It looks up my alley.

Mordheim: City of the Damned is a vidya based off the old specialist game Mordheim. It's set in a crazy city in pre-Age of Skubmar Warhammer Fantasy and you basically guide your warband around levelling it up, getting loot etc. Fantasy X-Com is a fair description. It's pretty good despite starting as an Early Access game. It's also on sale right now on Steam. Sadly I don't think it has a drm-free purchase option.

Mordheim City of the Damned

store.steampowered.com/app/276810/

Check youtube and pirate it if you want, its pretty solid for a turn-based RPG and spoilers, everyone who is mortal dies at the end.

It's extremely poorly balanced and rage inducing. Skaven are easy-modo, Chaos are dogshit.

It's also one of those games that claims it has a lot of customization but really doesn't. I'd wait for a free weekend to see how it plays or possibly pirate it.

Heresy?!?

Thanks, lads, is it still being updated? In that case, I'll hold off until it's truly finished.

Think they're kinda done with it, last update was from July or June, and all DLC is out, just pirate it for a test run and buy when you want it to, really went under the radar just like GeeDubs does when they sell their license to every fucking devs out there.

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I bought battlefleet and its halfway downloaded, it better be good

But that's the old eldar (and Dark Eldar)

The modern eldar are chaste as hell, and surpess sexuality to the point they barely have sex and are dying because of it.
a world full of 1000-year old virgins

Hive-scum, the lot of you.

Drink your tea somewhere else you coward.

And people give The Imperium shit

But Starcraft was shit, user

Since game maker pro is a cent on humble bundle, is anyone going to continue developing Chapter master? i got it but have no idea where to start.

I think that's the point. They might be cutting all external connections to the IP that exist because their only shitty choices with the tabletop has cost them so dearly that they want to own the few profitable uses of their IP's out there.

Maybe they're trying cut them out because they want to restart Inquisitor so they earn the money straight up to make up for the loss of millions and millions every year rather than splitting it with FF?

Is there a mod to make Dark Crusade campaign battles take place on something smaller than 8 player maps. 1v1 on an 8 player map is just a rush every time.

Makes the game look even more pathetic if I am honest.

Have Eternal Crusade been released?

Its shit, right?

Looks like it is still EA.

Apparently they announced it was going to be released at the end of the month.

I don't think they have reached buyer's remorse yet.
They are still somewhere in the zone, their slave minds yet to comprehend how bad things are.
Some of the worst fanboys have woken up. But they still gave their shekels and are still playing + at times defending it. So even awoken they are a waste of space.

Oh yeah and the devs are part of the raiding parties.

It's not that great

Not really surprised since FFG has been eating up the younger share of the tabletop market that GW got obsessed with a few years back, GW is gonna be lucky to survive another decade
If 40k fags are really unlucky, GW is gonna pull an end times on them too as a final "fuck you"

and even then BFG has huge issues with the balancing

Within the end of the month, because can't have Deathwing hogging all the spotlight.

its like a year too soon to release it.
I wouldnt say its shit for an in-development game, but it's shit compared to actually released games, yeah.
It's not at all at the stage it was supposed to be for release, and its been interesting watching it develop and grow. But I cant recommend actually dropping money on it.

just watch it from a distance and check every so many months if they've gotten anything done.

factions are all identical now, they're supposed to be unique, like how space wolves and blood angels are supposed to have sanguine and wolf priests instead of apothecaries.

I think theyre great in concept but terrible in execution.
I like the idea of a dying race trying to cling onto whats left, trying to live a disciplined life in the wake of a huge blood orgy. I like the psyker angle, and the high tech shit theyre supposed to have.
But instead theyre all fragile as fuck, flying even more fragile vehicles while at the same time claiming 1 eldar life is worth a million humans. Fucking invest in their wellbeing then, christ.

Holy shit, could you imagine what that would be like? A world without Games Workshop? Where would people go for pauldrons and space edge?

Imagine a world without GW
I mean it would be better but whatever

What lore would we even decide on?

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Let's lift some spirits

Sure, there's tons of deities within the warp, it's the big four are the only ones that really get talked about

pretty much set in stone already
it's better off remaining as a "myth" or "legend"

Oldcrons but allowing their leadership to have more personality/independence, especially since there's only 4 C'tan left

Don't forget the shit that blatantly contradicts that, like jousting speeder bikes, the howling banshees or the guys with meltas. For a dying race that have a lot of shit that puts them directly in the firing line; which is fine if you are talking about people on the level of the Phoenix Lords, but the rank and file Eldar are not.

I think the idea someone had of their fluff and crunch matching up would fit better. The idea was to have them still breeding like rabbits, but bitter about being kicked out of the number one slot in the galaxy.

Good news! I believe I remember hearing that 40k is doing an end times for the Eldar.

The last few updates have positioned GW in a way that if they wanted, they could pull a 40k End Times with no effort

I think it's gonna come down to stock performance, if it's not that great then they may do an end times+reboot where everyone is space marines

I've been playing the Dark Crusade campaign again (for I don't know how manieth time) as the Imperial Guard (for I don't know how manieth time). Man, I just love the Ork stronghold battle as the IG.
The Emperor smiles upon me

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They haven't added everything that was in the table top version yet, so yeah they have a ways to go before its done. They are still updating stuff every now and them but the real push has been to add the rest f the warbands, characters,etc.

pretty much this.
let malal be his own small thing that shows up once in a while but is generally overshadowed by the big 4, maybe have more minor warp-gods like the horned rat or something original for writers to play with. whatever allows for more creativity but stays within the established setting.
the "necrons turning on and SUCCESSFULLY rebelling against the c'tan" is dumb, maybe have a few dynasties that resisted them later but ALL of them is just retarded. plus, the C'tan are an intersting foil to the chaos gods.
I think there generally needs to be more interaction between non-human factions, like chaos vs nids, eldar vs necrons, necrons vs nids, chaos vs necrons, eldar vs chaos, orks vs chaos, orks vs necrons, orcs vs nids, etc.

What the fuck, and isn't Dark Age tech supposed to be more advanced than everyone else? My favorite part of the Imperium is the sheer grit they display, so I don't much care for that.

Get rekt, mon-keigh

remember the Dark Eldar still have tech from before the fall readily available. like that time they put a black hole in a fucking box.

i think its easier to make a box that creates a black hole then to fit a black hole into a box
the latter would be pretty impossible
and if the former were true then the box would be so strong that it would still be there when the black hole comes out

i mean latter again

Not tech wise, the Necrons are objectively top tier as in no one even comes close to them
Then pre-fall Eldar tech/Dark Age tech

Gotta remember, Eldar were the luddites of their day, Dark Eldar are closer to being "Eldar" than Craftworld guys
Mind you, that still means Dark Age tech is leagues above what everyone else is using besides the 'crons

GW is made of stupid

Why negotiate with the Dark Eldar and not the Eldar?

Dark Eldar have tech that Eldar don't since Commorragh was the biggest port/webway city of the Eldar
fluffwise

Cuz lorewise people can't tell the difference between dark eldar and craftworld eldar. They are both space elves in different color armor.

That would explain why the Tau let them kidnap a whole damn planet. But honestly, if the eldar are bad the dark eldar are obviously worse

Fair enough.

Do the Dark Eldar still use Wraithbone? I know that is drawn from the warp, which would fit with the more psyker heavy approach the Eldar have, and I know the Dark Eldar avoid psykers whenever possible.

No, because it needs a psyker to shape it and DE make sure they have no psykers in their population

Anyone remember that 40k MOBA Dark Nexus Arena? Why couldn't more shitty shovalware 40k games died like it did?

I swear how the fuck do these people even exist in the real world.

The bigger question is why the fuck didn't the Imperium negotiate with Necrons instead.
Ever since newcrons happened and C'tan became pocket monsters, Necrons now have a Code of Honor and some Planetary Governors even negotiate peace treaties with them to have them not kill everyone.

Like really. Makes more sense than talking with fucking Eldar.

Kicks almost never go through, don't worry (apart from rampant tking). Keep doing what you're doing, we need more people like you.

Yea I noticed that all sorts of people were kicking everyone, no one left.

The 'crons are still a new thing to the imperium and they still dont have a "diplomatic" relationship.
Also, the dark eldar have the panacea, that shit i the anti-nurgle of the dark age humanity, it might save the emperor before he dies, causes an eye of terror 2.0 to pop out in terra and leave humanity defenseless until he respawns again.

>play DoW II on normal
How do I git gud?

Requires almost the whole match to report you, have fun!

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Yo just found out eldar have that stealth bullshit. Its unreal how good it is.

That never happened to me, especially since the characters carry over from the first campaign.

I honestly dont think GW will do it, 40k is their cash cow, they will maintain a semi-status quo with their change from 5 minutes to midnight to 4 minutes to midnight.
Also, that other user is wrong, eldar arent going age of sigmar, they are working on a soulbomb to blow shit up in the warp and go full DEUS VULT.

What does it mean for 40k if GW is kill?
will someone buy it and pozz it up?

Maybe, or ruin it further. Could even see Fantasy and 40k sold off seperately.

The mouse will buy it and we will see 40k shows on disney XD.

Please no.

You can uncap while stealthed since you aren't moving, just so you know.

Blizzard will buy it

What have you done user? You have doomed us all!

It would probably be an okay show, if a bit too childish at times.and with any bit of luck will bring back the old school looking orks for models

although the deadzone marauder orks are pretty fucking close

How the hell were the Orks expected to fight the Ctan?

Dark Eldar have abandoned psykery, and their knowledge of it is shit compared to Eldar. And the Golden Throne is based on psyker shit.

Furthermore, the difference in tech between them can't be that much - they are different faction from the same race. Craftworlds are a marvel of science in itself.

Lastly - TRUSTING A DARK ELDAR.
Never, ever.

Please up the volume on your webms

Think if the Orks were all made to all follow one common goal, given unlimited resources, and ….. wait actually, fuck, I guess sheer numbers sounds nice on paper, but you would need a lot of dakka

They were not supposed to fight Ctan but their proxies.

Has anyone played Da Orkz?
store.steampowered.com/app/455340/
If yes, how is it?

Has anyone played Armageddon for that matter? I remember there were some complaints about some parts of it being unfinished/shitty on release, but apparently there has been updates and new content (one small free campaign and five paid DLC) since then. Also is it good in general?

Armageddon is just Warhammer 40k Panzer General edition, it gets boring super fucking quick.

Also realistic looking Empress is best.

Maybe if she wasn't doing a duckface.

If GW goes kill, the best hope would be that Mantic gets the IP

Like I said, it really depends on their stock performance, I think you will see factions start to move more towards the space marine baseline though

63k Thread Now?

Kek has spoken, take that as a lesson for wanting GW to die.

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I had a Nob beat one to death with a power klaw, with enough numbers anything is possible.

I sorta miss 2nd ed when not everything was edgelordy and memes weren't a thing.

Get this fucking heresy out of my face

I fix'd your pic

So, I have a doubt about DoW UA.
How do you make your squads? Do you just "specialize" an squad with an specific weapon of vary them on the same squad? I usually specialize them, but I dunno what would be more convenient.

Also, since I don't have the steam version, I can't use the NT core .exe.

What ever happened to vermintide?
I haven't heard a thing about it since about a month after its release.
Did the game die already?
Is that the same fate that deathwing shares?

It more or less died because how drops worked and the devs not releasing new maps n stuff

finally found something to address dow3

What would you do if you were the principle of that High School? What kind of person could pull off being Principle of such a school?

Kek'd

R63 Malcador.

The Orks were basically created as not something to beat the Ctan and their necron servants, but being something so difficult to eradicate that even they would be slowed down. This would give the rest of the universe the time they needed to be able to put up a fight. The orks are basically an intergalactic distraction.

Was a little short on content at launch and performance was pretty mediocre for most people. Got like two DLCs and then the devs took a huge break from making new content to make a console port which is coming out soon.

Orks were also way different back then. Now they are a degraded version who only cares about conflict and war.

Yeah, they were Korks, they lost their K, wich is what ghazzkull is trying to bring back.

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Does anyone think this is good design ? With healers running around too ?

Read Space Marine and the Inquisitior trilogy by Ian Watson. They were one of the few good books written before 40k went full retard after third edition.

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Not to be in Eternal Crusade's defense here, but as far as I can tell, the idea is that with everyone shooting in the area, Lascannons deleting people from 500 meters, quadguns and rhino's blasting you from even further away, stormboys flying in even if Orks are hilariously screwed over 9 times out of 10 and doing their thing that the recovery item as a support item, along with basically unlimited resupplies, are perfectly fine because your life expectancy is generally zero.

The game still manages to disappoint, not mentioning that while Orks are kind of fun, Eldar stomp them like nothing, and the Nob (or veteran) classes basically sacrifice a custom class of which you have five and five presets, for a one time spawn that only grants you slightly more points for your loadouts. It definitely has a long way to go

Is there anywhere that i can play Dark heresy online? And if there is, is it free?

Chaos are the mudslime heretics of 40k, it is known.

:^)

I didn't know so many girls were into 40k and warhammer fantasy

I wonder how many soccer moms went poor after forcing their loser son to go there in order to get him off of video games.

HEY KID

That explains next to nothing. Why have healers at all if an ammo box does 3 times better ?

It's funny how they say go to the store and get a free paint set while showing a 40k figurine box. Isn't something like that worth at least $100? I can see how a lot of people would be confused by the ad and want a free box of figurines and only get a shitty paint set

The resupply boxes are few and far between, located either right in the thick of the action (implying a nearly full room) or so far out as to be strategically worthless to get over to, if you make it without getting laid out you'll be out of the action long enough for people to get objectives set up.

As for the ammo box heals, for what it's worth the healers give you a free hand to do as you please, ammo boxes, though I'll agree are a bit too strong (not so much getting your health back, but how quick it is), using them can get you killed, not as often as it should, but it's there.

I think it's more because healers are in the fluff. And also because healers within a group can help secure choke points better. The Ork painboy throwing dok bombs means there is massive AoE's of green shit for orks to play around in, obscures your vision, bringing orks back to life and suddenly turning the tides against you. Again, the medic boxes are a bit too quick for my tastes, but because everything tends to fuck you up, your life expectancy is zero anyway, it doesn't make too much of difference.

By what logic?

Craftworld Eldar are the decendants of those eldar that were smart enough to see Shaleesh shenaningans and left the decaying empire in giant world-ships. Some stayed to try and fix the society.

Dark Eldar are those that were partying hard in Comogorrah and were spared because of the insane wards, then decided to continue to party because they were too drugged to care. It's a mystery how the city didn't fall apart and how the DA even keep the knowledge alive.
Actually, the lastest fluff implies the wards are failing and Slaneesh is gonna nom them soon, sicne the DA don't know how to fix the problem.

Eldar are far more rational and in control of their emotion, plus they are psykers. All of this should make eldar better scientists and lore-keepers, and better at anything having to do with the warp and psykery.

The twitch streamers I see playing like that penguin guy(who is a free shill) pretty much camp those boxes when defending. They are too good to pass up.

And why did they copy the shield mechanic from space marine ? Regenerating shields for everyone ? I thought orks would have just bigger health bars that regenerate, since orks really do regenerate.
Now everyone is the same.

And you mentioned lascannons above. Who exactly are you going to snipe with a lasscannon when you need 3+seconds of aiming onto him to get a kill ? Some retarded devastator perhaps, but none of the faster classes.

Get out of here faggot!

I can't tell if this is bait or not, but Disney XD is a thing. It's what replaced Jetix.

better doesnt mean closer to the original. the dark eldar are the eldar right before the fall, the craftworld eldar are more conservative and shaped their society in a response to the fall, the Dark Eldar are the closest to the original eldar empire.

Where do you even pull that from ? Original eldar didn't use pain and torture to keep slaanesh away, nor did they hunt for slaves, nor did they make abominations out of corpses.

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They're closest to the majority of late empire Eldar, but there were already exodite worlds on the fringes of empire space in an attempt to get away from the degeneracy when the fall happened and the Craftworlds were built before the fall by what were considered kooks and crazy people who believed the end was nigh because of the degeneracy. So both really existed.

The craftworld eldar are closer to the normal eldar before the fall.

Honestly, you might as well say that a chaos-corrupted guardsman is closer to the DAOT humans than the imperium ones.

Craftworld eldar are 40K variant of Holla Forums

best bird sighted

The average Eldar of their Empire era would have more in common with Dark Eldar than with Craftworld Eldar
Now Dark Eldar took things up to 11, but the hedonism and pleasure cults would be something nearly all Eldar would be familiar with

I am honestly surprised Eldar women don't take mon keigh kids as pets

Humans are the worst race because of GW's unabashed Space Marine favouritism.

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They are, that's why humans are the worst.

Roll 20, since i assume youre talking about the RPG.

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That's a big fucking surprise, considering they've been passing it out to unproven, unknown development studios and churning out shit games nonstop

Also surprised they canned the tabletop RPG's since those were actually pretty decent

Hopefully this means we'll start to see some GOOD 40k games, but I'm not holding my breath. GW doesn't seem to know shit about shit when it comes to vidya

Games Workshop does not involve itself in any aspect of video game development or production, it merely sells a license to developers and publishers wishing to use Games Workshops IP's.

Games Workshop didn't can anything, Fantasy Flight Games severed the relationship due to its increasing involvement in the miniatures industry and its growing competition with Games Workshop.

It's corp speak, GW puts some variation of it in every financial report. Everything in GW's reports are just diversions away from and positive framing of the abysmal numbers they post.

The only thing you can guarantee GW will do, with every new release, is raise the prices.

I'm speaking more from personal experience, which means I'm usually just being an ork and spending most of my time either breaking vehicles or being shooty For some reason melee as an Ork escapes me, I might be able to keep a few marines down, but Eldar fuck my shit up so most of it for me is running and gunning, although yesterday I definitely see the use of the boxes.

No idea why the copied the shield mechanic, it would have been pretty cool to see some more unique mechanics, Orks with slowly regenerating health and larger health bars, and a bit more toughness in exchange for no shields, but then painboyz would be a bit too good to not have. I'm definitely against homogenizing the races, considering 40k is supposed to have something unique for everyone's taste, but then again I've been disappointed with the game again and again.

As for lascannons, you'd actually be surprised, Ork Loota's have the Zapp cannon which apparently doesn't really have a "tell" (again, pretty much only orks for me) like the lascannon beyond blue colored lightning glowing from the barrel, so you can actually snipe apothecaries who are reviving their fellow marines, or the individual rushing for and using the resupply box from a good distance away. It's not foolproof by any means, but it was just an example of life expectancy in the game, considering a single hit disintegrates the fucker unlucky enough to be the target, but like you said, faster classes and factions (Raptors, people who move with cover, the entire Eldar race) aren't going to be hit with it, but even the non retarded devastators will still be easy targets, provided you use cover.

GOOD

LEIGH ALEXANDER IS GETTING MARRIED TO THE PRESIDENT OF FANTASYFLIGHT. WONDER IF SHES BEEN CAUGHT SPREADING HER TENDRILS AND THATS THE REASON WHY NOW THEY NEED TO DROP A DMCA ON BELL OF LOST SOULS AND GET THE BLACK LIBRARY TO MAKE ITS OWN OFFICAL WIKI.

Time for the games workshop to make games again.

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Their fucked up cousins do.

no sync kills no buy

Space Marine was fun, and it's a shame it was ruined by hackers/ded

That being said I am currently disgusted with WH40k as a whole

Also Slaneesh is getting removed? cool, not like I give a fuck about this garbage anymore. fucking Age of Smegmar

Maybe the franchise will get good again in another decade. Looks like it's more modded Soulstorm until then!

Also despite my butthurt state I didn't actually mean to sage

fucking fuck things though, MAKE 40K GREAT AGAIN

I've heard silver tower and betrayal at calth were good.

Is The Beast Rises hands down the fucking stupidest 40K has ever been? And I mean in a bad stupid not the usual good stupid.

That's the book where they retconned the Imperial Fists into getting totally wiped out in the early post-Heresy era by one of the knight titan sized Ork bosses from uncharted Ork space that've been hinted at as being a thing in throwaway army book lines, isn't it?

Give me an example how an eldar personality is

They should at least be interruptable, or only happen when there's no danger around. One well placed, well timed grenade on a squad/unit performing a sync kill and you can fuck them up if the grenade detonates right when the invulnerability wears off, or if your Force Commander decides to show off when you want him to retreat, giving the enemy time to move into his retreat path to melee him to death which wouldn't have happened if he just immediately ran when he was told. It can really fuck you around, sometimes.

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Eldar or Dark Eldar? If it's Eldar:
They all have different personalities just like humans. Honestly the biggest difference from humans seems to be the lack of basic needs; stuff like food, water and housing is all provided universally on the Craftworld, so the Eldar are free to wistfully pursue their chosen path up until the point they're bored of it or their emotion make continuing impossible and they become forced down another, or they get lost on it. Imagine getting lost on the path of the toilet cleaner.

Try reading some Path of the Eldar, it gives the best descriptions for the lives of Eldar both warrior and mundane that I've seen, it's Gav Thorpe so it's the best Eldar you're gonna get since he decided he was going to be shit at writing anything else and just try to become really good at writing Eldar, plus the alternative source of Eldar info is Matt Ward. It does focus on Craftworld Alaitoc which lorewise is the most 'liberal' craftworld, and it's folk live in luxury compared to those nearer the eye of terror like Ulthwe and Iyanden, on which life is probably vastly different.

Culturally, neither the Dark Eldar or the Eldar are the same as their predecessors.

And even then, the similarity between the DE and eldar before the fall would only apply to the last phase of the fall of Eldar empire.
You could easily argue they weren't true eldar, since they descended into degeneracy. Not to mention many other differences (abandoment of psykery, soul-sucking, etc..) that make DE just as distant as craftworld eldar.

There really is no sensible argument for claiming that the DE are more advanced than E, when they both stem from the same empire and bouth groups would have access to crazy tech in their infancy

I have tried. Can't find a good torrent.

Give me your 40k wallpapers

Do they grasp the concept of private property or it has been deemed meaningless?

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Vasya

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That might be the worst 40k art I've ever seen.

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I have all three on my busted laptop I'll try to dig them out.

They grasp it when dealing with people outside the Craftworld but inside it's mostly post scarcity; even the one really limited resource, housing, is overseen by the infinity circuit which assigns Eldar to homes that are the most suited to their path/most psychically/psychologically pleasing each individual Eldar. When an Eldar wants to permanently leave their home they just leave, the infinity circuit can read the soul of the Eldar and know it's not coming back and when another Eldar comes looking for a room in that area they just need to tap into the infinity circuit and feel which ones are free and which one feels best.

Going of on a tangent but there's always a chance that a dead Eldar soul with so much regret/hate/any other emotion that it didn't quite become tang in the infinity circuit decides to haunt its prior home, though I imagine most Eldar could feel it through the circuit and avoid that house. I like to think there's a ghostbusters squad of spiritseers who deal with shit like that. Of course there always a bunch of dead Eldar who retain there individuality on death, all Farseers, heroes, anyone with a forceful enough of an individuality to say "nope, not doing it" when being presented singularity, but some of those are suppossed to keep at least some of their sense of self so they can pilot wraithbone constructs etc. the others seem implied to just be an annoying (or possibly dangerous in the case of powerful warriors who died without their war mask) obstacle to any Eldar trying to communicate on the infinity circuit.

Since I'm already off on a tangent I might as well explain a bit about the infinity circuit and the webway.
The infinity circuit is made up of dead Eldar souls who for the most part lose their identity on death and just become a giant mass of psychic power. The infinity circuit not only powers everything on the Craftworld but also works as a giant intranet for the Craftworld, allowing psychic communication between everyone on the Craftworld with everyone else and with every service etc.

The webway as everyone knows is the skin between the Warp and Reality, or rather the tunnels and holes that run through it, and it can be used for the physical travel of Eldar both army and individual, but the webway also connects the infinity circuits of every Craftworld ;think of it like a really dangerous and shitty internet that can be travelled physically or psychically. The webway however, isn't made of wraithbone, in order to send information along it you need to psychically project your own soul across it, something only seers can do -
- and they generally don't unless they believe another Craftworld urgently needs warning. The webway is incredibly dangerous to traverse psychically as while the main arteries are safe off the beaten path there are tiny fracture that open to the warp which let in horrors that could consume a seers soul in closed, abandoned or lost tunnels.There are dangers for lone physical travelers too; Eldar pleasure palaces, lost to time and still inhabited by Eldar who are so consumed in there own pleasure they don't even know the fall happened, secret Dark Eldar cabal smuggling sites or laboratory prisons, that sort of stuff.

Yes, also the Orks send diplomats to the High Lords of Terra, along with the secret Ork invasion of Terra that's never been mentioned before

Many thanks, brother.

You're doing the Emperors work

hm..

How long is the "decrpyting data folder" supposed to go on?

It seems the folder is sort of broken right now, maybe it'll fix itself eventually.

Actually this seems to work
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My dick is now a AP1 weapon. You are a hero of humanity, an0n

No biggie, mon-keigh. Make sure to visit Commorragh sometime.

You couldn't handle my Emperors Gift

Slaneesh getting removed was Warhammer fantasy, with any luck GW will realize that its a stupid idea. Its mostly luck, however, since they seem to do a lot of ass backwards things. I don't much care for Slaneesh, but I enjoy purging the cultists, and there is no excuse to get rid of Slaneesh. Its a really base concept for evil; corrupt through lust and vice. Are they going to get rid of all references to drug addicts as well?

I heard chaos was seriously overpowered in that game and that nothing else is worth playing.

Logar is best primatchfu

Thank you for all the books user!

It's part of their marketing strategy to switch over to focused on a younger audience, since according to GW, the older gamers are "undesirable and make the hobby look bad"
Parents won't buy shit that has giant titty gods for their 9 to 12 year olds

Da Beast and his race of super Orks literally destroy the Imperium and Terra in M32 and nobody remembers or mentions it in any other history. I swear this series is going to end with 'and it was all covered up' but that is absolute horsehit for even 40K when you're looking at the scale of this shitty story.

see anyone with half a brain would realize that kids get into 40k because it's more focused for older people, so focusing on kids would really be limiting themselves for no good reason

shareholders and the board don't actually play the games, so they view it in a different light
Similar to how GW thinks that less than 20% of people who buy their models actually use their wargame system

I guess he got lost on the path of the eldar writer.

From what I see: everytime a guy gets a chance to use the box, he does. Especially this one. At one point he is just camping the box, throwing 2 grenades and running back to the box.

wat

Share holders are literal retards who shouldn't be allowed near money. Not just entertainment properties but money in general. Think of how many fell for the obvious con pitch of miracle pins that were supposed to do 200 tests with one drop of blood. Yeah, some equipment can do stuff with a single drop of blood, but the 200 claim seems like an obvious shoot the moon thing.

Its probably the yuppie fucks who think they know what kids like. The ones that Frank Zappa talked about and warned about stifling creativity.

So W40K is completely over?
(considering dow1 was the last good game they made)
(well ok dow 2 wasn't appalling but it was nigh unplayable)

What I mean is that they will make all games sjw and immature - just to pull in imaginary consumers and have a good self-image?

I noticed that DOW 2 was SIGNIFICANTLY less grimdark than DOW 1, DOW 3 seems even less grimdark.

Shares were a mistake in general

A terrible, terrible system.

You'd be surprised which crowd defends that crap. It's the tabletop fags.
This is paraphrasing that idiot Luetin09.

Those fuckers just choose a line of thinking to defend the new product and do so strongly, regardless of how meaningless these comparisons are.

That's sad.
There aren't any grimdark games left at all.
Hell, there isn't any grimdark entertainment at all.

It's all SJW and muh innocence nowaways.

So reading your post, DOW 4 will be a bunch of tabletop models with 20 army paint DLCs?
And there'll be flashy battles and a generic story?

dow 2 is actually alot more closer to the table top then dow is, this is speaking on the multiplayer side of it and there's a clash of fans, I love dow and its expansions because it's a fairly solid RTS with all the right notes hit, dow 2 I would not say is a step down in terms of grimdark and actaully the 40k on the whole was alot less grimdark and only really became really grimdark when I first entered the hobby when I was a lad dow 3 does look like trash from all stand points and I hate how they're trying to sell Imperial Knights with it rather then have all the other kinda titans too, the lack of races is also a real turn off too

Hopefully DoW3 crashes and burns so bad we never get to DoW4.

deathwing is coming and that looks good and I personally wish to see it BTFO of eternal crusade with how well it'll do

Deathwing looks pretty good tbh.
I don't really like spess mahreens all that much though, just DE and Eldar so hopefully there'll be Eldar in the game.
I hope the multiplayer will be balanced as well.

Idk, dow 2 compared to dow 1 is kinda kid-friendly tbh.
Multiplayer was shitty too.
Instead of
"space marines, attaaaack!" or
"on my mark, go go go!" and
"[scared] where's our fire support?" we got
"it's always like this with eldar!"

so far we know that it's nids and genestealer cult in deathwing, there is that inquisitor diablo clone though

I think it's because the map design is starcraft 2 tier pants on head bland as fuck not that it was intentionally made to be like that but ya never really know

you're right about the voice acting but the multiplayer outside of that is much closer to the table top even though it's CoH 40k but saying that dow is just impossible creatures without the level of customization which is a shame since making your models how you want them is fun

3rd edition was when the grimdark happened and it was characterful back then; 4 editions later and 40k has veered practically toward self-parody. Some of the writers just try way too hard and it ends up being pretty cringy, though I think it peaked with the sisters/grey knights debacle.

Nah man, not enough titans and flier squeezed onto a 4 foot by 3 foot table. The army size creep in 40k is ridiculous, people are putting down what basically amount to Epic 40k armies but in 28mm. I miss 3rd-5th edition force org (pic related), none of the convoluted detachment/allies/unbound bullshit.

it's closer because of the focus on points rather then just destroying your enemy but that's pretty much it as far as that goes

I didn't know how badly I wanted this till now

dow UA mod is real close to it

muh dick

I actually played dow UA (ss edition).
I don't like it.

It's just right click 1-2 unit to auto-produce them and set flag towards enemy base.
That's it, guaranteed victory even in insane.

It's just dow ss with x100 the resources and x10 the units.
spam spam spam spam units all day

there's mp, you just gotta get all your mods versons ABSOLUTELY correct otherwise you're all going to have to go threw them all and redownload shit

vs players it's alot different depending on who you play as, yes the spamming is there but once you get super vehicles and/or titans shit by that point is rather insane

What debacle? I know what the groups are individually but I don't know what most people into 40k feel about them.

Dude, that is Arch. He is reviewing a feminist article.

Matt Ward wrote the 5th edition Grey Knights codex in which his favorite collection of Gary Stu's, the Grey Knights, slaughtered a convent of Sisters of Battle and soaked themselves in the blood of the sisters, the faith of which served as an anti-daemon coating so they could kill a daemon.

Ah, good to know.
Still worrying that there are 270k people interested in that article.
There should be 0 people who discuss feminism in games.
Don't like, don't buy it, or make your own.

Idk, I had all the mods installed and there was no one in mp at all, ever.

polite sage

It's from a while back. We had the article posted here as well.

Luckily guys at my LFGS have decided to not move past 5th ed., it makes the game so much more enjoyable.

VIDEO GAME CRASH NOW

FUCKING NOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW DAMNIT FUCKING NOW NOW NOW

and that's just one game, i cant imagine how many games got fucked by people like that, LET THE FUCKING ARTISTS WORK YOU PIECES OF NIGGER SHIT

That seems silly, the grey knights are already supposed to be the elite when it comes to fighting chaos, there wasn't a reason to do that, the Sisters could have fought alongside the Knights instead.

A lot of people are concerned over GW picking up feminism because feminists are trying to brow beat GW to submission, and they answer to shareholders who are retarded.

That was years ago. The game didn't turn out as bad as it could have with suits like that fucking with it. The game that company recently made really shows what that developer meant, however. Plus, its based on ancient mythology, with heavy emphasis on Greek mythology, where was all the rape?

Shame it runs like shit even on the mod creator's stupid videos.

Remove ork.

How is the lag there ? Does it amount to anything more than space marine yet ?

Allows higher numbers of players on a map, though lag got worse after they switched to unreal 4.13. Would be better to judge it on the 23rd since we are waiting on customization of armor and more guns added in along with optimization patching.

Shame because this game was hilariously fun

Has it really gotten that bad? last edition I played was fifth and the worst we got was slugga hordes vs IG infantry hordes

I don't know the specifics but last edition I checked it was fair game to take literal apocalypse formations as "detachments". Normal sized games, four or five squads a piece except each team is also packing a pair of baneblades or a trio of wraithknights.

Yeah, but it's more like an iceberg effect like mentioned

Just…devoting even a single second of thought-space to how many POTENTIALLY AMAZING creations got fucking butchered because of retarded meddling like this.

god I'm so fucking mad

wasn't that one of the articles that the one guy faked in order see if they would actually publish an obviously fake article.

I forgot about that. Reminds me of the story of the Vampire MMO that the EvE company was trying to get made. By trying, I mean upper management bought the license and then fucked over the people working on it.

No

That would be the Horus heresy series

2 words

GRIMDARK

ORKS

I don't get it

If I were to explain Holla Forumstards would jack off to 40k even more but

There are also a number of regular humans who are Perpetuals. One of them was Damon Prytanis (that's why they use Jason Bourne), an agent of the Cabal, a secret inter-species organisation dedicated to destroying Chaos. He was a soldier who got all the dirty jobs and did wetwork. He also once mentioned that he killed "the good man in Memphis". Aside from this making him a good 30.000 years old this also makes him the man who killed Martin Luther King Jr. Why? Because fuck you.

He also probably killed
A good man in Vegas
A good man in Texas
A good man Germany
A good man in Serbia

get the fuck out of here you imperium stormfag. eldar are superior to humanity which will become extinct due to its own idiocy and obstinacy anyway. eldar are superior to every race. fuck off with your 9th century imperium theocratic society.

This is the bullshit that I hated about retribution ending.
In reality,

How the hell did gaybriel faggelos survive anyway?
He was 100% dead except for dumb plot armor.
Now he's doing somersaults while weighing 200 pounds, with 150 pound armor + weapon.

Pic related.

Does anyone have a screenshot or archive of the lady solaria thread before the mod removed comments?

wew

how?

it's not bad, just really repetitive

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I didn't actually play the dow single player.
I played it for around 2 hours then quit it.
I got to the point where I was fighting the ulthwe warlock.
of course I was, why would space marines kill orks or tyranids or chaos when they can kill eldar amirite

Easy, the Manly Marine Tarkus was there and he cast fist. Not even the Ruinous Powers can withstand manliness of that magnitude. He is so manly that even the Tyrannid Hive Mind fears him and will be drawn by his insults.

And that is before going onto Cyrus and his wheel of dairy

Even in soulstorm your starting positions are different. How do they expect me to redo the campaign if it's the same maps ?

They improved that a lot going into Chaos Rising, but then they had Ulkair. Ulkair was just a long drawn out affair.

The game did need enemy variety, but even what was in the game was not good enough to keep it from being boring from all the repeat missions.

yeah it really was, I enjoyed last stand when the lag isn't terrible

Last is also only 2 maps.
I played it 2 or 3 times, each time with a different character, that was it.

I am not sure about that last stand thing. When I played dow2 the custom games were mostly normal games.

It feels like it was some overhyped by the media thing. A friend who never touched dow2 told me last stand was great. And there were patches for that thing. Perhaps it was just marketed hard ?

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no, that's the mod which is supposed to fix the game

although people do love their pve grindtans

WE
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WUZ
holy shit they made him a genuine coon caricature
how bad can dow3 get ?

Im sure theyll find something
Also a reminder that everything that you love will become shit in your lifetime

I have zero expectations and somehow I still manage to be disappointed

I don't really feel much for dow3. My expectations are low to begin with.
Despair for me right now is:
I don't think there is any love for any game left in me.

All 3rd person shooters are shit.

jesus christ hes moving fast for a guy with a heavy bolter

Theres barely anything nowadays since consolefags will buy everything nowadays and everything has to be grounded on their small fucking minds with no imagination.

I feel you, Cossacks 3 and Bannerlord are looking though.
Whats happening with the first?
Ive been following it but only at the surface, its coming out in 5 days, whats going on?

Fuckoff

volvo strongly advised the devs not to do preorders. And they are offering free dlcs for 8 more factions if people buy the game within the first 2 weeks.

The general opinion is that to be strongly advised to not offer preorders, your product must be shit.

What happened?

Musou shit that hasn't become popular enough to hate yet.

Plays like a shitty FEAR

Garbage, pure garbage.

3rd person shooters are universally console crap or console crap ports.

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you fucking what mate?

FEAR has nothing to do with max payne.
Original payne was a decent game and the controls felt fluid unlike modern 3rd person shooters.
3rd person games took a hard beating, much like the RTS genre.

anything that was deemed unsafe was doomed to heavy casualizing and genre mixbreeding

By the Emperor you fucking nigger heretic, we've been through this before.

that's a cherub

Fuck you guys Jonah is based not WE WUZ.

First they add a female knight pilot to DoW 3 now we're getting a nigger marine in a chapter that aren't salamanders.

A fucking black librarian? Fucking why? these cucks are trying to change 40k to their SJW needs.

Do you even know 40k lore/even played the older games?

Not to mention the Inquisitor in DoW 1 was black yeah thats right the super bigot xenophobic faction has a black guy in a powerful position.

My god some of you Holla Forumstards are just as dense as a liberal SJW

M8 dow2 boasts some of the worst campaigns the dow series has. And dow2 is not old at all.
But even then he didn't wear lipstick.

Somebody didnt play the orks

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Also I think this is a little late but DoW 2 retribution had so much shit cut

Like we were going to get Elysian,Tallarn, and actual Death Korps of Kreig units no reskins for IG

IS IT?!
If only they could also hear a little ping or a click accompanied with a little visual cue every time an enemy dies, then their little dogbrains would get the positive reinforcement and instant gratification they so desire. Fuck me.

Fuck man, as much as I hate Sergaey I wasnted GSC to make good games again.

Heres a (You)

Why?
Why is it so hard not to fuck up like this?
Why aren't they making an proper RTS instead of a MOBA hybrid?
Why aren't they combining the good of DoW1 with the good of DoW2?
Why are they not listening to what people actually want?
Why is this game taking a step backwards in every way in comparison to the older games?
Why are they making such shit?
Scrap the game and start over.

Because the RTS genre is dead

Generals 2 was going the moba route too

You've got high expectations user.

All I want is an RTS game that requires strategy.
RIP RTSs.
Soulstorm is still active though but I've gotten bored of it.

You do realise the character highest in the social-military hierarchy in dow 1 (the inquisitor) was a nigger, right?
It's been bad from the get-go.

Just kill me now.

It's only dead because they killed it.
Ofc RTS "dies" if they publish mobas and RTTs.

Tbh people still play warcraft 3 and starcraft 2.

Stop that crap already, theres nothing SJW about games workshops, they are just clueless in what to do to get more shekels.

She's already written books for them, so I stopped purchasing from them.

I had never heard about this before. That's some fucking bullshit. Is she really marrying the president of FF?

Not entirely true. The books are infested.

examples

besides being poorly drawn, whats the issue here?

I'm demanding examples, I've not seen shit sjw wise in the books

We had this conversation last thread:
HH series: the most brilliant minds on mars being females while the men being either some second grade characters or evil, the truly good ones dying off immediately to be replaced with women. See keeper of the void dragon.
The entire HH series is faulty of this. Ultramarines state of the art defense system - handled by a couple of lovers techmarines. Man immediately dies on virus infection. Female holds the line.
All of those admirals and ship captains on both the heretic side and not being females.

Caliphas Cain series: where every single damn female is either the best at close combat, a psycher, an inquisitor with the best gear she shouldn't have and every male outside of the main char and his buds is either evil, corrupt or incompetent. IG regiment being 50/50 male to female. Females performing on par with males in close combat with fists.

The previous user who did a better list even mentioned gaunt's ghosts as faulty of this given female civilians send to defend the positions a few IG regiments failed to.
BL introduction of female knights that allows the shit in DoW3 to seem somewhat normal.
Even Space Marine with Mira.

Some of the key authors in HH and black library are cuck tier. They are ashamed of writing so much space marine stuff that they give miraculous power and positions to females to compensate.

you wish they weren't

no bro, they didnt draw attention to it, go LOOK AT THIS WOMAN, or anything like that. she was just a character that happend to be female.
All the other IG were men and she was only in charge cause everyone else fucking died. she was only a luitenant. She wasn't particularly good at anything, just another name character.

I agree with everything else you said though.

one female with a "brilliant mind" who dies having all her work lost as well, which was just work that the emperor had already achieved

you mean where that old man makes that dumb cunt watch some maddening c'tan till she needs to get replaced and her bff kills her self because she saw it? eh hardly something important

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhh, I've read 1 to 12 nemesis really put me off it so unless the newer ones are heavy handed with it then what I read had very little in terms of "sjw" although I think you're mixing that up with feminists which is worse since sjw is merely a tool of feminists

not read it can't say

nah

You may not work in an engineering or IT field by to me this is pretty much insulting.

If you fail to see the obvious and believe corruption happens only heavyhandedly you are like those bioware fans who needed ME3 to slap them in the face, to realize how badly things have gotten.
I've read 1-18 and couldn't go on anymore. It had too many of the tropes that had no place whatsoever in 40k.

Friendly reminder that this Savij guy is a mod on the eternal crusade forums and shilled this game hard 3 years ago, before the exodus, when miguel came to cuckchan to shill the game.
And the retarded whales of cuckchan /tg/ ate it up.

I am so glad you fags stopped me from buying into this.