Is there any video game character that can beat Goku?

Is there any video game character that can beat Goku?

DIO Over Heaven, probably.

There are people in his own series/games that can beat him.

Still, the list is very short outside of them.

Kirby

Superman

Bayonetta, most probably.

GT, DBS and movies are not canon, except for Bardock and Trunks specials.


Krillin, Yamcha and Tien are Superman-tier and they are considered insignificant.

So much like the series itself!

Fucking laughable you pleb.

The real question you should be asking is.. Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.

Nigga can literally stop time, regenerate nigh-instantly, and as of Eyes of Heaven, force into reality any desire he might have. He gets punched? No. That actually didn't happen.

Sorry fam it's shit but canon

Also Super Buuhan was stronger then Goku in SS3 so stop this shit thread

Goku be like "JUST ROYAL GUARD MY SHIT UP"

Bitch please.

except Star Platinum beat DIO.
and Jotaro has the weakness of not being able to attack from far, or react fast to distant attacks.

What if he gets punched by Jotaro

Then do tell how he was beaten?

Fuggg

Waste of trips

Jotaro won because he can stop time too and in fact that's the only reason he won at all.

DIO Over Heaven is a DIO from a reality where that didn't happen and DIO took over the world, evolving The World to another form which can rewrite reality. He's also the only Vidya-exclusive JoJo character I know of, so he counts for the thread.

to be fair normal DIO could beat Goku, Goku was shown to be vulnerable to shots in Resurrection:F, Goku would be completely vulnerable to not only THE WORLD, but also to DIO's vampire powers during stopped time.

So how did Dio over whatever got beaten then?

That's cute and all but Is there any vidya character who can beat Dio Brando?
And I'm not talking about Phantom Blood Dio,the orphan kid with the power to kick dogs into furnaces and his secret switchknife ready to kill jojo, nor am I talk about later Phantom Blood Dio with the power of the stone mask and after becoming a vampire, which gave him inhuman strenght, speed and senses, as well as the ability to drink blood and regenerate himself,hell I'm not even talking about Phantom Blood Dio after the first fight,where he gets Space Ripper Stingy Eyes and the ability to freeze by touch,actually I'm not even talking about Stardust Crusaders Dio either,with the powers of a vampire,Jonathan's body and his stand 'The World',and I'm not talking about Stardust Crusaders Dio,after absorbing Joseph's blood and being able to stop time using 'The World' for almost 8 seconds,and I'm not even talking about Jojo:Heritage for the Future story mode Dio,where he absorbs Jotaro and Joseph's blood and ruins over the world.But hell,I'm not even talking about part 7 alternate universe Dio,with the power to turn himself into a dinosaur by using his stand from the corpse parts called [Scary Monsters],and nor am I talking about late part 7 Dio,where he gets recruited by Funny Valentine to defeat Johnny,and has the ability to stop time with a younger version of [The World].
I'm talking about Dio after attaining heaven alongside Pucci from the game 'Eyes of Heaven' for PS4,with the powers of a powered up The World pressumed to be '[The World Over Heaven]' who has also gotten slightly fat and purple skin with longer hair and the ability of Rohan's Stand ' Heaven's door who's able to rewrite and modify memories of whoever he wants,alongside with being able to stop time for up 10 seconds and presumed to be alongside his sons Giorno,Donatello,Ugalo and Rikiel,each with a different stand and still his old vampire powers(freezing others and Space Ripper Stingy Eyes) and as well as his ability to fly and his abundant arsenal of knifes and other dirty tricks and the actual ability of [THE WORLD OVER HEAVEN] that is to rewrite reality so he can beat any other stand in the series by simply rewritting reality so that the person becomes his ally instead, effectively allowing him to control any being in the entire universe with his overwhelming power, and let's not forget of course about the strongest punches in the world that go in FTL speed, his previously mentioned vampire abilities(Stinger eyes, inhuman senses, freeze by touch) as well as his stands perfect power and his amazing intellect.Who couldn't be beat by any being in za entire world.

Goku can move in stopped time, though. Timestops have no effect, and it follows that anyone who is affected by timestops wouldn't even be fast enough to react anyway.


Nah, that's only when they lower their Ki "shields", if you freeze time and for some reason Goku was affected, the Ki shield would still be up and THE WORLD wouldn't be able to harm him.

Alex Mercer.

What excellent pasta you have there Tonio

/thread

SackBoy is the only character who can defeat all of these characters with ease.

EZ

Plenty

Kars

Kars when he finds out stands exist

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Through the mechanics of parallel dimensions

goku dead

wait, why wario

Just dodge 5 times

What if goku's waering a focus sash

Or an assault vest.

halo can beat goku

Because he's not gay like that pussy ass Goku. He get's all the bitches.

Why do Karsfags think he is omnipotent or can replicate anything regardless how powerful? He was never stated to be so, "creating life" to "creating any life no matter power, size, or ability" is a huge fucking stretch.

DIO would destroy his ass.

Fuck you.

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Dio physically cannot touch Kars and all Kars need to do to kill Dio is to touch him as he is a vampire and cannot use hamon.

If that was true then Jotaro wouldn't be able to touch Dio either because no hamon.
Stands are literally hamon you retard, in japan they're called "hamon spirit" or something like that.

????

What
How does that make any sense?
Dio is just a vampire, he isn't a pillar man.

Have you actually read a single page of the manga or did you just read some shitty Tvtropes page?

Same shit, different sac.
Not an argument.

Its the exact argument you deserve because you don't even know how shit works in JoJo. This is some basic shit that even someone who has watched the anime knows about.

psh, too easy

Choice Scarf Imposter Ditto

What's your point anyways? Kars would lose to Dio, it's all properly explained here:>>10646589
Stop trying to ad hominem and present some arguments

Remember that time that Halo was Goku?

Nope.

The Future Warrior from Dragon Ball Xenoverse.

You have to beat Goku like 20 different times to clear all the sidequests.

Dio literally cannot touch Kars.
Please do not talk about shit you don't even know. Stands have nothing to do with Hamon and Vampires were made to be food for Pillar men.

DIOs and Jotaros Stands are linked. Meaning that DIO couldn't one shot jotaro (Over Heaven Dio can defeat anyone with a Single Punch). However, that wasn't enough to simply beat him; Jotaro needed to use the D4C Mechanics of alternate reality objects colliding to NOT Killer dio, but to simply break his hands.

DIO over heaven is annoyingly OP by Jojo standards, being able to take out Gold Experiance Requim, Tusk Act 4 and D4C.

Manny Pardo

God's sake did you even read my post>>10646589

I'm NOT talking about part 3 dio, please read the fucking post before you present your """"arguments""""

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Also
EDUCATE YOURSELF

Isn't it obvious?

So all you do is post pasta without even knowing anything about the thing you are posting about?
Have you even played All Star Battle? Which part of "Dio literally cannot touch Kars" do you not understand?

It's immeasurable, and at one point proven to be inaccurate to "measure" power levels, user. Quit trying to meme, when you've probably only seen up to the Frieza saga.

YOU FAT FUCK
Here, it's right there for you.
Can you do us all a favor and please, read the posts that you're replying to, god this is just embarassing now.

Also, the only thing that can Kill a Pillerman is Hamon outside of complete obliteration (such as Lava). Dio as of Part 3 would not be able to Hurt Kars, as, even though he has access to time stopping abilities, ANYTHING Dio Could do would not kill a Piller Man. Unless of Course DIO found some UV lights to turn him into stone, or they were fighting next to a Volcano.

On the other Hand, Kira would have a pretty good chance against them both. Even with Time Stop, if Kira manages to get Dio to pick up an object he has placed a bomb on, he can Defeat him due to the atom like nature of the explosions. Same with Kars; Since Kira can destroy things on an Atom Level.

I do think DIO has a pretty good chance against King Crimson, however.

What you said is right, but I'm not talking about part 3 Dio.

Part 1 Dio wouldn't be able to do anything

I'm not talking about part 1 Dio either

Oh I know, I just like talking about Badguys fighting Eachother. Which is not fun since Overheaven DIO is complete nonsense

Seriously if you knew a single thing about JoJo you would kill yourself over how retarded you are.
Stands in the base universe come from being pierced by arrows made from a meteor from space.
Since part 6 stands come from the effect of the body parts of Jesus christ.

Ripple comes from Zeppeli going to the mountains and training with monks.


Dio from All star battles is still a vampire and no matter how many stands he gets, he physically cannot touch Kars or any Pillar Man for that matter unless he learns how to use ripple in which case he would kill himself because Ripple burns vampire like oil. You know absolutely nothing about the series but still adamantly show your ignorance.

We're in a power level thread, everyone's retarded here.
You know, in Rome

NOR AM I TALKING ABOUT LATER PHANTOM BLOOD DIO!

Clearly you are talking about the Ultimate Dio
PRE VAMPIRE DIO

Please read the passage I quoted, thank you.
I'm not talking about Dio from ASB either, retard.

I'M TALKING ABOUT RONNIE JAMES DIO

I mistyped EoH as ASB. The post still applies.

It doesn't though.

Professor Layton.
You never specified what he was beating Goku in. It's suffering, he beats Goku at suffering.

you guys are idiots

It does. Kars can break Dio's hands just like Jotaro does in game without anything special.

He can't, though

He can

Anyway, somebody make a new jojo thread.

Power is measurable. The Z Fighters can sense Ki and Frieza's empire used technology to detect Ki and turn it into numbers.

They are not supposed to be accurate, but to show how approximately strong someone is and the difference/gap between fighters.

Power levels aren't static either. They drastically increase in short bursts when using special moves and abilities, or powering up, or simply (in Gohan's case) getting fucking pissed.

Except he can't.

No u

He can

Proof?

He can eat Dio by touch

Here's your proof.

That's not how it works

that is literally how it works

No it just doesn't work

it does

Oh man I must have been mishearing SSSSSSSSUUUUTTAAAAAANDDUUUUUH this entire time.

sutando just translates to hamon spirit in japanese dude

Filtered.

Go spam about your marvel comic book heroes (which are weaker than human fighters in DBZ) somewhere else.

That's retarded.

Mary Sues are invincible, OP. Even when they die, they win.

Trudea was right

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It's just too bad for Trudeau that science has not yet invented a Mary Sue serum for our soldiers, or he would be right.

A better question is if there's a video game character that can defeat this with headphones at max volume?

That's fine, aslong as Mary Sues LOOK invincible. The problem is that most Mary Sues do not look the part. They are invincible simply because they were written that way, just as kids conjure up new magical powers when they are playing.

Dragon Ball is about training hard and surpassing your limit. Characters are brokenly overpowered in a convincing way that makes sense (in a pantheistic setting).

Mary Sues have no requirement to look special at all.

A loose definition of Mary Sue is "someone for whom the universe bends, twists and breaks its own laws such that they always end up on top".
Their ability to survive and win often has nothing to do with their characters, but rather their abilities are entirely meta - Plot Armor being one of the biggest.

Way to go proving my point. In the end, one cannot especially measure power levels on characters who do not measure with such bizarre units. JoJo stands alone after Part 3 are basically made to outdo Z characters not just by raw power, but by pure metadimensional force. Quantum physics, and such. Hamon from the earlier parts is basically the same as this "lightning bolt" crap in every shounen today.

Then it's a case of in which universe the Vs. would be in.

In the DBZ universe, the human Z Fighters are marvel-tier super heroes capable of flying, extreme speed, martial arts and firing nukes from their hands. And these are the weakest guys.

The only way these casual planet busters would lose to your capeshit is if it took place in YOUR universe with YOUR rules.

I actually rewatched naruto, it actually would have been amazing if they would have ended with Pain or even Madara. Kaguya and Sasuke ended whatever symbolism they were trying to go for though, which is a shame because it uses a lot of cool concepts

obligatory pic though

Except it isn't. Like I said, JoJo characters part 2 and beyond wipe the floor with whatever comes of DBZ, because they're specifically made to evade the whole "muh power level" garbage by having strict rules to their stand power that specifically let's them evade any kind of sense, so long as they know their potential, and exploit it to their heart's content.

It's certainly more interesting, that way. Far more interesting than whatever other garbage floods the "manime" charts. A shame Araki is a hack writer like all the others, though. Guy couldn't write himself out of a coffin.

Pic related

What do you mean with strict rules to their power?


SSJ4 Gogeta.

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Hey dont you diss araki, the man has soul and cares about his work.

There's a stand user who can remove properties from things or people.
He can remove friction from the ground, or heat from an oven, or ki from a Z fighter.

There's a stand user who gives you a cursed paper bill, and no matter how much money you spend, you keep getting more money and are unable to purchase anything, eventually dying from starvation.

There's a stand that can destroy anything at a lower altitude than him with a flesh eating bacteria that kills nearly instantly.

There's a stand that can negate the effect of anything to 0.

Madara can use a genjutsu so strong that it can put an entire world under an illusion of their dream come true, plus if it's edo tensei madara only sealing him can defeat him, guess what saiyans can't seal

Unlike in DBZ, with the whole "chosen race" having the only substantial power, in JoJo, any normal who gets the chance to reveal his stand power can kick major ass in ways most generic shounen chars can't.

There's no way to get around that, especially when the "potential" part of stands make your exercise analogy moot.

And Giorno can make it so that genjutsu does nothing and also he's trapped in Izanami forever even if he realizes the error of his ways he's now trapped in infinite loops of him dying in different ways.


Reminder that Vanilla Ice, a stand user with melee range, killed like half of the main characters in part 3, despite being barely above jobber tier.

Yeah but soul doesn't make for brilliant storytelling skills.

remove yourself from this world

Please, user. Don't be so generous.

He may be a funky chinaman, but he's no different from the other shounenites, in that regard.

in Wario Land 2 he's completely invincible. The challenge in that one comes from keeping your coins and getting past obstacles

he told people not to release a phantom blood movie that was completely finished because he wasn't satisfied with its portrayal
does that sound like toriyama or kishimoto to you?

It's more of a lottery, to be frank.

You've got Bohemian Rhapsody, and then there's Golden Experience. Totally different potential and range, those have.

This sounds like a Madara copypasta.

Kirby

I always liked how many of the good guys constantly die in jojo, it makes you fear they are going to the shrekd constantly.

Why do you say that?
From what weve seen, he doesnt let people fuck up his works for money.

I mean, those are both pretty fucking top tier stands. Bohemian Rhapsody has global range, and Gold Experience can't decide what its power is.

What? Did they forget to change the names to be less "copyright-offending"?

No. Apparently it skipped over a lot of shit like Danny and Tarkus and Bruford, and also the ripple masters, if I remember correctly. Like I said, the shit was never released, it's not like I've seen it.

Shit thread, naow is there single charactar in game who can defet garfudi after he attains lesagna

Dilbert

user, why do you have to be such a fucking faggot?
That is called localization, and has nothing to do with him, he isnt in charge of international subs.
Now, he did remove things like a mosque being detroyed and dio reading the koran in international releases of stardust crusaders.

Yes it is sadly

So, no one?

I guess this wasn't really fair to begin with. Not much can compare to muscled galaxy destroyers.

Jon?

You are mistaken, my friend.

Don't act like the entire thread didn't just show you why stands are superior, user.

Meta>Phys

I can't believe it's over.

Just so we're clear.
If you haven't read Part 5 of JoJo, and you plan to, probably don't click on this image.

It hurts

Like basically any telepath. Goku's got physical strength but his brain is like pudding.

>last thing Wattchewant did before going offline F O R E V E R was tumblrtale garbage
Holocaust when?

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There's a scene where Goku lifts water out of a glass from his hospital bed.
He also had to learn to defend against telepathy somewhat against people like Tien and General Blue.
Telekinesis is also how he bends the Kamehameha, and also, here's a picture of him stopping an attack with his mind.

I've nothing left to hope here, let the world burn

All right, lets get this shit started:

Dragon Ball >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragon Balll Z

Yeah but that's all basic stuff, though.

Can't wait for '''Literally Hitler" to ascend the throne, and set the globalist agenda asunder.

Correct.

Oh I'm not saying he could beat actual psychics, I'm just saying he has some experience with them.

God

Fair enough.

Goku a shit and DBZ a shit.
Power levels are shit and makes no sense. Their planet busting makes no sense - any planet they fight on should be destroyed by their mere presence, let alone a energy blast that misses and hits the ground.

mah boi

Two could, two have.

Dragon Ball had adventure, mystery, slapstick comedy and fights based on techniques.
In the end it gets really dark though. Z might aswell have started at the 23rd tournament when everyone is grown up and Goku fights Piccolo.

Dragon Ball Z is action-packed, drama, suspense, screaming, powering up and too-fast-for-the-eyes fights.

They are both good in their own ways. But people who have never watched DB should fucking do so, because it makes you more appreciative of the background cast and human fighters in DBZ. It also makes you understand how the fighters got their uniforms and what they represent.

and it has lewd bulma scenes

not really when it was already established that death is meaningless

"Could" doesnt count. They had a draw with that cat.

Dont forget that small faggot guarding zeno

Wishing someone back to life can only be done 1 time.

Hence why they went to Namek.


Mai, Launch and teen Chi-Chi are best girls.

I wish all the Dragonball porn wasn't fucking garbage.

Death in that universe is meaningless. Hell, characters like Buu and Gotenks could just scream their way back to Earth. Goku can teleport whenever he wants. It means fucking nothing.

All Shonen kinda meh. SS too.
But at least it has good lore with all the mythological tie-in.

And one beast of a character:

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glad somebody saved that
check'em

That was only until the Buu saga, which is still a great arc because it's Toriyama deliberately fucking with the lore so he could go back to making Dragonball a comedy. He was basically taking the piss out of his own story because it got too serious, plus he had been working on it for 10 years by that point.

El Presidente

see

Kars is literally THE perfect lifeform. He can do anything any living thing can do, but better.

Living things can have stands, which means Kars has the best stand.

Why do you think Kars can't come back into the series?

Because his regeneration isn't instant. It's faster than DIO's, but still not instant.
A lot of shit in parts 4, 5, and 6 would fuck his shit.
Kars wouldn't stand a chance against Heaven's Door or Highway Star, or even The Hand.

I saw that. Doesn't change the argument that death only becomes meaningless in the one saga that's basically Dragon Ball satirizing itself

And then again in Super. And at many points before the Buu Saga. And in noncanon series.

Super is fan-fiction, not canon.

with toriyama there's no difference
just look at bulma

Super is shit, no argument about that.


No, not really. People were still limited to being revived once, and even then there was that time in the Cell arc between Piccolo fusing with Kami (which turned the Dragon balls to stone) and before Dende became Earth's god that there was no way to bring people back, the only doing so was to spend time not fighting Cell and hoping he wouldn't blow up the Earth, go to Namek, and then be forced by their bullshit rules of only bringing back one person once per wish. Death still had drawbacks.

It's canon fam

or to learn instant transmission from goku

Looking to buy a cannon?

You are cancer, dragon ball super might be shit but you people like you are worse.

Akira Toriyama is the George Lucas of anime.

Shits on his own creation, forgets things, does not give much of a fuck.

He just writes whatever he wants. DBS, DBGT or the new movies are as canon as the Multiverse comic or SSJ5 Gohan deviantart garbage.

DB and DBZ was solid. As far as I'm concerned the series ended with Goku training Uub. Heck, the Cell Games was a good conclusion to Dragon Ball.

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And like I said, not fight Cell and hoping you have enough time bring him back before the Earth's destroyed.

And again, being forced by bullshit of bringing back one person per wish. Death was still a handicap in that it wasted time.


Outside of some writing and character deisgns, Toriyama's a manga artist, not an animator.

The Cell arc was terrible. The Buu arc was needed because of how dumb and overly serious the Cell arc was.

oh jeeze the knd parody was better than this

and if they had all learned instant transmission from goku during the three years before the androids arrived, they wouldn't have needed the dragon balls in the first place because everyone would just be able to teleport back to earth upon death

some fedora tier shit in this thread

YOU FAGGOT! I CAME IN HERE TO POST THIS!

I read Vento Aureo again recently and it was so much fucking better than I remembered it being.

…..You have a long hard day at school figuring out your 9x1-10 times tables and you go home and lay down and , just want to watch some damn Toonami, your favorite thing ever because it has these cool cartoon like things but they seem different from regular cartoons…whatever…So you wait and its 5:30 Dragon ball z is coming on and its getting even crazier because you just remembered Kriillin just got killed by frieza…you dont like Krillin that much but its Goku's best Friend you wonder what Goku will do. All of a sudden Namek Starts to crumble and Goku is going insane and his hair is lighting up and your eye and brain is wondering wtf is happening…Then Frieza says he is going Super Sayian…Your like Super Saiyn wtf holy shit…Goku looking epic as fuck like he understands everyhting about figthing with his yellow hair begins to beat the pulp out of annoying Frieza….Lights flashing, Muscles flexing. Hair moving….You sit there like this is the craizest thing you have ever seen on TV….The Show ends with the same ol " NExt time on Dragon Ball Z…." you sit down like noooooo…You hug the TV Screen like please give me moreeeeee plsssssssssss….Your parents tell you to get ur ass to bed later on….But first you have to sit in your room trying to go super sayian like goku before you sleep…..Next Day: As soon as you go to school Everyone act school is in a uproar about Last nights episode of Dragon Ball Z…Talking about how Goku Went Super Sayian and how epic that was and how lucky there were to see it….You look to the left…You see little jimmmy crying…You as littlee timmmy why are you crying timmy DBZ was so amazing last night you should be going crazy like the rest of us…..Timmy looks up at you and says he didnt watch DBZ last night and he missed Goku Go Super Saiyan…You immeadtly back away from timmy like he has a diease and quickly give him a past on the back and walk away pitying Timmys sorry existence……..He just missed the best moment on TV Ever….Even teachers were talking about it cause the kids were talking about it…….

DBZ should have ended where DBZ Kai did (Cell's saga), which I think is actually where Akira Toriyama wanted the series to end.

What they could have done after the Cell saga, though, is releasing a movie about Gohan's life in university, Videl, etc., but with no SSJ3, no Majin Boo and all the crazyness that came after that.

Don't you get killed for real if you get killed while dead?

Not that I know of.

I vaguely remember that being mentioned from manga when Goku came back at the for Buu saga.

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fuck off naruto scum

That and it makes you even more pissed off when you realize after the Sayian saga that Akira didn't give a shit about any other characters beside the main villain at the time and MUH SAYIANS.

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And since that didn't happen it's a moot point.

it's a huge fucking plot hole is what it is

Dragon Ball Z should have ended with the Cell Saga and started into Gohan. Akira could have easily gone back into the Dragon Ball formula with Gohan growing up and going into high school/ Super Sayian Man gimmick. But the dude is a fucking brain dead nip now. Who cares.

No character is more powerful than Ed. Here's 30 reasons why Ed from Ed, Edd, n' Eddy could totally kick Goku's ass.

30 reasons why Ed from Ed, Edd n' Eddy would beat Goku in a fight.
1. Ed's physical strength is measured by his imagine which is limitless. Thus Ed is stronger than Goku.
2. Ed has fell from outer space twice and he was perfectly fine meanwhile Goku was injured from a similar fall. 3. Since Ed has falling from space twice he also would been burned up during reentry. This means this Ed can survive extreme temperatures while Goku has suffered while being on fire before.
4. Ed can create an invisible imaginary friend to fight Goku.
5. Ed can create an army invisible imaginary friends to fight Goku.
6. Ed can create an invisible imaginary Superman to fight Goku.
7. Ed can create quantum singularities just by running in a circle.
8. Goku can fly huh? Well so can Ed. I gets the power whenever he's friends are endangered.
9. With his infinite physical strength Ed could simply drown Goku in his bathtub full of gravy.
10. Ed would eat Goku alive while sleepwalking.
11. Ed would watch too much TV and become a super powered viking warrior and beat Goku with a battle axe. Goku can block Trunks' sword but since Ed has infinite physical strength. His axe would still splice Goku in half.
12. Ed could turn into a monster and stick Goku to the wall with chewed up chunky pops.
13. Eddy would put a box of chunky pops behind Goku and Ed would trample over him.
14. Goku and Ed would decide to eat some jaw breakers. Goku's jaw would break due to the massive size of the jaw breaker meanwhile Ed's mouth can easily eat it.
15. Ed could get angry and annihilate Goku.
16. Ed would rub his feet against a carpet. Then Ed's body will be electrified. If Goku touches Ed's body it would create a a massive explosion of 58 megatons of force and that's if Ed only charges it for a couple of seconds. Ed can charge it up to planet destroying levels of energy if he wants too.
17. Ed took a point blank explosion of 58 megatons of force in his face and it didn't even phase him. Goku would of been injured by the same blast. Ok now we're getting to the good ones
18. Using flashbacks and his understanding of the fourth wall; Ed could travel back in time and kill Goku has a baby.
19. Ed's imagination can actually break and control reality.
20. Ed could just simply rip Goku's outline off and he would melt.
21. Ed can reach into the background, grab the sun and eat it. (Which means that Ed could also easily beat Superman too! No one is safe)!
22. Ed can go into the background he become a giant.
23. Ed can saw holes through dimensions.
24. Ed can create portals and trap Goku in a temporal loop.
25. Ed can grab the animator's pencil and erase Goku.
26. Ed can rip off Goku body parts with ease and place them somewhere else.
27. Ed can breath in space.
28. Ed can throw the moon at Goku.
29. Ed is a kind, gentle guy. Violence is not in his nature. Everything is just fun and games to him but when someone threatens his loved ones than he would defend them to the death. If he really wanted he could destroy entire planets.
30. He could beat every other Dragon Ball Z character and the entire Justice League.

Cell sagas pretty shit fam. Also Toriyama didn't intend for it to end there.


According to Sean Schemmal, Buu Kai has been dubbed but there's some licensing bullshit involving Toei preventing a US release. Not like it matters, as the Kai version of Buu is shit

Show me da PUCCI b0ss

They could have built new sagas after Cell without having to jump 7 years into the future like retard Toriyama did

Its bad enough power levels went insane during the Frieza saga but then Toriyama turned everyone but Saiyans shit, hell he even went 180 on Vegeta because of some retarded reason

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That's not a plot hole. Also Goku could only teleport to the afterlife when alive. When you're dead you only can travel back and forth between the living and dead with permission from the gods.

Android/Cell was the worst written parts introducing more and more supah saiya people, everyone who isn't a supah saiya person is shit (Piccolo who doubled his powers after fusing with Kami was a let down because in the end 17 was only tired out enough to lose to cell, not get beaten by piccolo) and Tiens Triangles into squares attack is literally him remembering some other nigga exists and having them do something because why not (which he does in buu later where he gets kicked and gets rekt in 1 shot).
It should have ended when they tried to wish Goku back after Frieza implying he isn't dead but alive and truly forfilled the super Saiyan legend then end on a clip show of them 10 years later.


INB4 some fag owns the rights to Babadi or some shit and they can't use them.


I can get autistic on deathbattle for the trash I've seen from it, but who cares, OMM is miles better thought out as a concept and in practice and much,much,much better animated so just watch that shit instead.

The beerus and Gold frieza movies sure as shit are canon.

The unleashed Spirit Eater from NWN2 MotB could just suck up Goku and be done with him. Just another morsel, albeit a meaty one.

I think it's just Toei being retards. Supposedly they don't let new Dragonball anime get released in america first because a TV broadcast deal has to be worked out before a DVD release. I think Buu saga Kai won't come out here until it airs on Toonami.

I realize this is supposed to be a copypasta thread, but should mention Featherine Augustus Aurora. Of course, that may only be if the universe they're fighting in was hers or created by her.

True…

it is a plot hole, lmfao
the yardrats were a physically weak race that happened to know a very useful technique
every z warrior could've learned it, and also gotten permission from the gods just like goku did

r/ing the POWERMAN comic

is no one going to argue with me on this? cmon i spend ages typing that shit.

All of Kai is shit, at least in Jap.

Please be 30 or older when browsing this site.

Beerus

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weeeeeeeeew

I can't resist the bait

Hyper Sonic equipped with the infinite ring generator built by Tails.

I've summoned disco ball

Most 2hus

sorry fam but you make for a shit forrest gump

Knuckles might as well be a god in those damn things, so i'd put my money on him.

I agree.

The entire show was gearing up for Gohan being the `chosen one´ until that got retconned.

Gohan turned into a little bitch.

he turned into top tier shota you mean

His only accomplishment in Buu saga is pumping Videl full of cum so she could fly.

That and him wrecking Super Buu.

those numbers are wrong
hercule's power level is 100

Rolf is much stronger. Fuck off with your weekness.

OP is a retard. There haven't been official power levels since the Frieza saga, and it's impossible to calculate just by how inconsistent power displays are in the series.

100 is reaching superhuman strength.
Hercule is DB normal fighter tier.

Isn't hercule suppose to be one of the strongest humans, not counting tien, krillin etc, etc?

Hercule won the world tournament without cheating and is fast enough to dodge bullets my man.

hercule is the strongest human once you exclude roshi and the human z fighters

He's the strongest out of those that don't know how to use ki. If he had gotten trained by Roshi, he would have been quite a fighter, I bet.

NOPE.

Yajirobe is a Z Warrior.
He helped them fight Vegeta.

Nope.

Chi-Chi and Master Roshi are way stronger than him. His own daughter is stronger than him aswell.

Hercule is more of a celebrity, not a fighter. Just a rehashed Pamput and comedy relief character.

By the end of Dragon Ball:
Goku: 416
Piccolo: 408
Tien: 250
Krillin: 206
Master Roshi (buffed): 180
Yamcha: 177
Yajirobe: 168
Chiaotzu: 152
Master Roshi: 139
Chi-Chi: 130
Farmer with shotgun: 5

That was just an exception.

He prefers being alone.

well fuck you

so does piccolo

He cut off Vegeta's tail on the spark of the moment. Otherwise, he never fights, just runs away, hides, and eats.

Well, he killed Cymbal, he brought Goku to Korin's Tower, cut off Vegeta's tail, and also slashed the shit out of Vegeta to help give Gohan time to transform.
He does more than Chiaotzu, honestly. I'm not including Senzu delivery.

Not quite, he also cut through Vegita's armor… shortly before getting his ass kicked.

Also this guy could kick Satan's ass.

He also saves Goku and Trunks from getting blasted by the faggot god and his gay body snatcher friend, in super, if that matters.

i remember 2 scenes of him that were badass before they turned him into a weak villian

1. scene where he chops down an entire tree then uses it to fly through air

2. scene where he is taking a bath and uses Dodon wave to heat up his bathing water

Not to mention forces them to go back to the other timeline to git gud

Superman couldn't even beat his own damn game.

Goku can mindgame Ed. All Goku has to do is go to the the candy store and buy Ed a jawbreaker then Ed will allow Goku to do whatever he wants.
Hell, Goku can even make a stupid comic about Ed and him teaming up and convince Ed to help him with his plans.
If he wants to kill Ed all he has to do is enlist the help of the Kankers. Ed will be too afraid to protect himself and Goku will be able to finish him off with a quick strike.

The only Dio which can win is this one.

Fuck wrong one, that one is Doogie White

Goku can't read or count. He couldn't buy the candy or make a comic.

I'm not a DBZ fanboy (loved it growing up though) but that shit is insanely well known and they're still pumping out new anime shit and video games every year.

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Posting superior casualty fucker

FUCK YES

Crash Retold's Crash Bandicoot.

Are you upset that people like what you don't like?

Also, Blackmore.

This is the first time I've seen a spoiler used correctly on Holla Forums in years. Thanks user

One hit kill.

yeah, on creatures whose power levels are under 2. power star mario can't even 1 hit bower

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Not enough Dio.

That timestamp

fix'd.


Yeah, when the dangerous fuckers actively stopped participating.

Good luck getting to him in the first place.

Dio?

There's a better character than Dio that can bring Goku into eternal loop of suffering without allowing him to even ressurect.

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How about you ask some new questions. For example, is there ANY character in ANY fiction who could beat this?

FUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

His name is Mark Funicucks

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kek

Goku has spiky hair though. Mario is fucked!

Goku is vulnerable to magic and many status ailments. He can probably be turned to stone. I think I can remember extreme cold lowering his power level?

He's also completely terrified of needles.

I'll never be able to understand this meme.


Everywhere but the US watching dubbed movies or shows is something only kids do.

No, 99% of the time the dubs are shit too.

You all shit. There can be only one who can defeat goku.

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THIS.

Dub>Raw

Isn't saying that you prefer something to be altered in order to better suit your tastes the same as having something altered to be "less problematic"?

It may be an upgrade, but it's not what whoever made the original produce intended you to have.

No, it's like modding a game to be better.

The `original´ is meant for Japanese people that understand their own language.

So are imageboards

It's not problematic, it's just inferior. There's a difference.

Goku can't tank hits for shit. I mean sure he doesn't care about bullets, but apparently a blast that does nothing more than level a forest is enough to terrify him. Most final bosses in weeb games would tear him a new asshole.

Also he moves much slower than lightspeed which means he can't keep up with most weeb characters (Blazblue characters are relativistic for example), and his best feat was a Kamehameha strong enough to destroy the Earth, which again, is pretty pathetic by OP vidya character standards.


The original product intended for you to have never fucking got made because budgets and real life limitations are things that happen. The intended product exists only in the creator's mind, and arguably not even there as the product is the result of a group collaboration. Subtitles are no better than dubbing if you want the "true original experience" because the real intended fucking experience was the Japanese language, not a fucking translation.

Look up Death of the Author whenever you finish being an autistic high-schooler. It's totally possible for japanese voices with english subtitles to be better than english voices, but it has everything to do with the quality of the translation and voice acting, and absolutely fucking nothing to do the "intent."

So why are you posting on a gaijin imageboard instead of 2chan?

wait i just figured, it's mario ends up stepping on goku. i need to sleep

This is what the jews want you to believe.

1. The voices of children in the english dub are fucking unbearable.

2. In the dub, dialogue is changed to over-explain & over-hype.
IE. What Piccolo says to the others about Vegata turning super during the 1st fight with the Artificial Humans: in the original dialogue it's a short line with a moment of silence for others to take in the statement, whereas in the dub he goes on about how amazing Vegata's power has become.

There are numerous examples of the english VAs droning on during a cut to other characters reactions. This ruins the tone, IMO. Once would be whatever, but it keeps happening as if the VAs get paid more for shoving in more unnecessary lines like when Nintendo Treehouse localizes something & makes a fuckload of unnecessary changes/additions to get paid more for the artificially-inflated workload.

Also, dead Vegeta's speech to Goku during Freeza saga was far better in the original dialogue.

Yes, but they won't be around to brag about it :^)

Toonami fags are the worst kind of DB fan. Prefer mediocre VA's with poor direction over great VA's because "muh manly Goku", like an unfitting, bland soundtrack, and believe the "Z" portion of DB isn't wholly inferior to what came before, simply because it's what they grew up with.

Because Kars is literally the perfect being who is immortal to everything. Kars isn't dead despite being launched in space, he just frozen over and is perpetually flying towards one direction.
It'd be fucking great if Kars returned in Part 8 over dumb bullshit like, because of Made in Heaven, the universe got reversed and Kars is floating back towards earth.

meme magic is a powerful thing, we used the word cuck so much justin trudeau became what he is

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Fuck off you arent welcome.

For me, the only good thing about the original Jap DBZ is Ryo motherfucking Horikawa AKA. Captain Falcon as Vegeta.

Your bias is showing, weeb.

thanks for the memory user

This is what subfags prefer in their action scenes.

Jap OST has some nice music, but only a few.

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i will be honest DB soundtrack is great but when it comes to DBZ the non-jap one is better

Yeah. I'm actually quite partial to Hikari no Willpower, or at least the instrumental version in this old DBZ game I used to have.
woah, video game music on Holla Forums

This. Most any DBZ movie after the series ended is very cannon.

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Because they can actually act.
Just because I only call out one notable instance doesn't mean it's my only reason. Piccolo and Vegeta are generic "badass who eats rocks for breakfast", Goku was decent for the child-like innocence but didn't talk at all like a country bumpkin, and every single kid was irritating as fuck. Roshi is the only one I called a straight improvement. Perfect Cell was great, but he still doesn't come up to Wakamoto's level. And even LittleKuriboh was a much better voice for Frieza than the new guy Funi got.

Let's not forget Goku's dialogue changes to stupid do-gooder, and Android 16 being given a robotic voice, completely ruining the twist that he was entirely robotic. Speaking of the Androids, their dub names still cause some people confusion over simple things like "why can 18 have a kid?"


Most of the DBZ games have great vocal tracks. I was so disappointed when Xenoverse just went with the flow version of Cha-la head chala that was used in BotG.

This is what faggots wold call a "headcanon".

The filesize is wrong

this picture is a shit meme, you saved an optimized version of it and the original didn't even work unless you were retarded enough to use windows on a notebook from the 90s
suicide yourself my man

Superman is cannon in Dragon Ball and he is afraid of General Blue, a guy who Goku beat the shit out of as a kid.

get lost naruto scum

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Did Norio Wakamoto do any voices in Jap DBZ? Did I like that guy as well.

should've teleported in time and killed me

Still trying to get over a major sunburn and the pain is fucking with my head.

Nigger you can get triggered all you want, it's a fact that those movies are canon.

you can shitpost all you want but your garbage like DBS and TFS will never be canon

Did it EVER work, though? Malware in pictures is something pretty fucking rare, which only works depending on the library you are using to render the picture. Most browsers use libpng, which is a really well tested library with very little recently discovered vulnerabilities.

Not only that, but usually, bugs like these should crash the browser at the very least, and I don't remember anyone reporting anything like that. It seems infection was completely transparent. Furthermore, how did they know opening this specific picture was what gave them the malware, if it was triggered by a time bomb with a long delay?

I think this was a hoax that only some people believed due to the fact that it has an unusually big filesize. Well, or at least unusually big for those who don't understand how png compression works

What about any level 9999 character from disgaea? Wouldn't val from 4 be able to beat goku?

He was all three forms of Cell in the original dub. I think they ended up putting his voice through a filter for at least the first form of Cell in Kai.


The movies aren't DBS, user.

Seems like you'd be better off over on tumblr.

Calm your tits, Susan. Nobody said TFS is cannon. Stop being so pic related about BOTG and Ressurection of F being cannon.

fuck off back to tumblr "games are art" faggot

Nigger.

Were you dubcucks 12 years old the last time you rewatched this horseshit? The original Z dub is fucking trash, even when they tried to rerecord certain lines on the Orange Bricks.

so does he make another stronger goku or weaken/kill him with the book?

That is really well drawn.

He isn't impervious to poison and he needs to breathe. So theoretically even a normal human draw with him.

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While yes, your benevolent dictator would defeat Goku easily.